resto

[formal crown]

did a 19 with KOTG .. it was brrrrrr

[plucky pecan]

wow I hate not going into cat for dpsing lol

[graceful ermine]

It’s definitely an adjustment. The main thing that sucks is standing still for ~2 seconds at a time

[grizzled seal]

I miss apexless

[boreal karma]

same

i hate not having refo

[formal crown]

im naturally a boomy so it feels normal for me

[plucky pecan]

so are going into boomkin for voke ?

[boreal karma]

and kotg cdr reduce

[formal crown]

plus the lunars insta heal

[plucky pecan]

or still sending cat

[grizzled seal]

I am playing 2 min convoke

[graceful ermine]

No boomkin convoke is very bad

[grizzled seal]

I have been converted

[formal crown]

i boomkin voke

when no damage going out

kek

[boreal karma]

what do you get by playing 2 min voke

second thriving?

[tough portal]

I would say you just hold it for healing 95% of the time, Cat Convoke is much worse without 25% damage and Wildstalker nodes
Chicken Convoke is not very good anyways, flat out not a DPS gain in AOE altho it is mobile.

[grizzled seal]

apex 4 and tv 2

[boreal karma]

nah

[eternal bough]

how to maximize everbloom ?

[boreal karma]

i aint doing that curse

[grizzled seal]

regrowth healing goes down the toilet without TV

[tough portal]

TV is massive for NB value yeah

Suffering from success our talents are too nice

[bright swift]

same

my convokes are crazy value

[plain steeple]

Do you have a comparison between both specs?
I just can’t tell how good 1min convoke is. Also dont know how much this is affected by the NS nerf. 1min voke surely got a little bit weaker now.

But do you have any numbers for a comparison?

[bright swift]

Convoke value is always wrong

[peak charm]

How do the absorbs target players on Mythic Vanguard again?

[bright swift]

it also procs implant multiple times

[plain steeple]

Yeah that’s why I have no idea how much it really provides.

[candid parcel]

I might be slow and probably the R word. Can someone TLDR what to do with the bonus rolls? I only do m+ and heroic raiding, should I just try and fill every slot for mythic track? Or roll for the mastery gaze trink.

[formal crown]

is the community still wildstalker or has people slowly started to switch

[plain steeple]

Wildstalker for healing.

Kotg if you don’t need the maximum healing.

[formal crown]

felt yea cause kotg is brrrrr

felt*

[frosty canyon]

Concensus seems to be M+ for actual mythic gear especially if you have crests. Roll on raids for trinkets if you feel lik eit

[flint void]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:2Zb8NxLcQXtgvrMd?fight=last&type=healing&source=5 just to be sure, Everbloom is supposed to be my top healing thing? it's 21% of my healing and it feels brokenly OP right now?

[tough portal]

Wording on our guides is that Wildstalker is recommended in the guides because it's better healing but you can ofc choose for yourself to lose some healing and gain some damage by going KOTG

[flint void]

i'm not supposed to orange parse

[grizzled seal]

SO LONG STARE

[flint void]

[grizzled seal]

YOU WILL NOT BE MISSED

[plain steeple]

Grats!!

[fierce isle]

Gratz torty!!

[plain steeple]

Now tell me how much 2min voke vs 1min voke is doing.

[fervent mica]

no more longing stares... just meaningful gazes

[formal crown]

felt yea wildstalker is def still the pug mandatory

[bright swift]

that's me in 4 weeks when I lose the first 3 rolls

[candid parcel]

The swap to wildstalker in raid, do we wanna catweave some? Or we just heal?

[oak garnet]

kotg: good if you coordinated playing with people that dont play with their feet

[lament cipher]

Just heal

[spring girder]

i already have champion alnseer, it sims highest on QE, should i take it and bonus roll for mythic shoulders either or take shoulders now?

[oak garnet]

if u pug at all ignore everyone who says kotg is better

in 5 man content

[flint void]

i prefer getting my alnseer the au-naturelle way

[gentle nova]

not its not

rg should be your #1 healing

[candid parcel]

And almost the same rotation as before?

[gentle nova]

youre missing way too many rg casts

[grizzled seal]

did anyone test keeper in raid?

[lament cipher]

LB self, VI SM yourself, position well for efflo, play and ramp normally

[flint void]

i'm working on that, i'm honestly tryin

[gentle nova]

feels ass

[grave quail]

why LB self and not tank?

[flint void]

Forest walk

[grave quail]

ahhh

[flint void]

The LB splash goes off Forest walk

[candid parcel]

VI SM whats those acronyms?

[lament cipher]

You have tons of self healing increases to boost lifebloom heals

[livid hearth]

for dpsing in m+ and spamming wrath etc, do i always turn into owl when dpsing?

[fervent mica]

narp

[grave quail]

if you already have symbiotic blooms on yourself from a wg cast or something, can you swiftmend someone else or should you just swfitmend your lb target always

[fervent mica]

with vi it should always be lb target

[lament cipher]

Verdant Infusion (talent) Swiftmend

[livid hearth]

so just use casted spells in human form?

[oak garnet]

yeah

[fervent mica]

correct

[livid hearth]

Why do we take boomkin form as talent then?

[fervent mica]

pathing

[grave quail]

is this just for the value of extended duration freeing you up to heal others?

[frosty canyon]

because of the implication

[fervent mica]

less gcds on maintenence, yeah

[grave quail]

gotcha, thank you

truthfully find it hard NOT to swiftmend someone dying

but I understand

[lament cipher]

It procs implant, giving you a symb bloom for more healing boosts for your lifebloom apex blooms

[spring girder]

any ideas?

[fervent mica]

if someones dying, you still should

if you have nothing else

[candid parcel]

thanks

[grave quail]

but there are certainly instances where you already have blooms on yourself and dont need the implant right?

[fervent mica]

more implant more better

[grave quail]

weird playstyle but thanks guys

[lament cipher]

They do stack

[fervent mica]

its not an extra mastery stack but the effect from them does

[grave quail]

ohhh I see

and contributes to photo right?

[tough portal]

Everytime VI was available as a good choice in raid, using Swiftmend t o extend LB + 2 Rejuvs was the norm play

[grave quail]

multiple instances dont count for multiple mastery stacks but do count for photo?

[bright swift]

thoughts

[grave quail]

for example. I maintain lb + 2 rejuv on myself, im at full hp, and I'm swiftmending myself at full hp. this is the correct playstyle

[lament cipher]

👀

[fervent mica]

also vigorous creepers

[wooden tapir]

Quick question, does last bloom of consuming sotf contribute to the rank 2 everbloom?

[thorn plover]

Ya

All blooms are the same

[livid hearth]

Ok so no boomkin form while dpsing. Another question in this part of the guide in discord:

Single target - Starsurge on cooldown -> maintain Moonfire only IF Wildstalker -> spam Wrath.
Multi-target - spam Starfire.
Sunfire is never worth casting with Master Shapeshifter if you can turret Wrath/Starfire instead.

Does this mean in aoe i just spam starfire without bothering dotting with moonfire?

[grave quail]

gotcha, thank you sir

[hardy junco]

feels like we're superbuffed

idk

god damn everbloom pumping

ngl

[rustic copper]

Not enough regrowth clearly

[fervent mica]

sunfire can be cast while moving, its really the only time

[limber latch]

does this come with specific talent build?

[wooden tapir]

So its not the "final bloom" its whichever bloom?

[grizzled seal]

what boss is that

[rustic copper]

Does embrace get put under wg in game?

[lament cipher]

Embrace has its own log entry

[glass fulcrum]

can someone recommend an add on for target spells since this function is not working with danders anymore

[livid hearth]

i mean in aoe, i just spam starfire and no moonfire dot on each target?

[fervent mica]

with no talents there is only 1 bloom in lifebloom. our talents and abilities proc it

[livid hearth]

good to know i can use sunfire while moving

[fervent mica]

yeah.

[fervent mica]

sunfire, not starfire while moving

[livid hearth]

yeah tpo

[midnight depot]

Feels like my mana is melting way quicker, anything changed about that ?

[fervent mica]

just your spell choices

[bright swift]

Lura

was a one off pull for sure

[wooden tapir]

I see, so basically whenever it blooms rank 2 apex talent applies?

[grand herald]

Yes

[grave quail]

do most of you only 5 cp rip/ferocious with HOTW or do you ever shred /rake your way to 5 to get mana back intentionally?

[rustic copper]

That’s not what I asked

Is his wg healing actually through or is that embrace

[lament cipher]

Oh in game, im blind

[fervent mica]

i assume you mean in raid. most of the time its only with hotw. if theres significant downtime you can do more, but it hasn't been necessary to me

[brazen rapids]

Hi guys. One question can a crafted weapon be upgraded to 298 with the new currency or will it still be lower ilvl than 298?

[grave quail]

yes in raid. Thanks galaxy

[fervent mica]

295, in 4 weeks

[brazen rapids]

ok, ty

[bright swift]

@grizzled seal had to hide private auras on Lura

this is unplayable

[rustic copper]

[thorn plover]

Nothing can do it on frames anymore, but danders still has it as cast bars. Look for the Targeted List setting

[dense lantern]

i swear to god

[silk ice]

It’s Lua-dicrous

[summer igloo]

it's not been a fun day for addon devs

[dense lantern]

everything is constantly broken

i cant

blizzard own shit is broken

addons are broken

[thorn plover]

Ya it's getting a bit old

Getting slammed lua errors from blizz tooltips

Like what

[silk ice]

Blizzard started a war against addons that nobody asked for and nobody wanted. Everything in the raid so far could have been done with private aura tech they had in Manaforge omega

[dense lantern]

Also

[silk ice]

My addon list would just be 10x smaller

[dense lantern]

I'm sorry can someone explain to me like I'm a toddler

Why

Can I see private auras

Like aren't they supposed to be private

I dont get it

Why are they a thing, and a different thing from normal auras

[thorn plover]

You can see they're existing but you can't parse what they are

Or anything about them

[dense lantern]

Yes but I can enable and see them

anyways

it's just more annoying

[thorn plover]

Yes but you have to use your brain to deal with it

Instead of a clanker

I get what you're saying

[dense lantern]

ok but why are they a different aura on my frames

[silk ice]

Humans can read it, but addons can’t, until someone uses AI to read your screen

[livid hearth]

is it crazy that this top druid on wc dungeon logs not taking the swiftment no longer consume but extend talent?

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/restoration/keeper-of-the-grove/EAREQREQEkVVRVVCBERlCBQQVVUVVAVFEFUEVBHQCRUFFVVVUCBQ

[grand herald]

The addon war is blizzards biggest L in a long while

[graceful ermine]

You should be able to put them in the same place if you want

[thorn plover]

VI Literally recommended build

[dense lantern]

prosp > vi

[wary belfry]

private auras are just an annoying leftover remnant that they abused cuz they didnt finish api changes in time

[livid hearth]

oh why is that now? does healing playstyle changes? I think wowhead guides mentioned using the extend to extend lifebloom for the apex talents

[rigid grove]

whats the void research order for crucible trinket users?

[formal crown]

if youre range arent braindead and stack in efflo then prosp >>

[brisk vigil]

guys in raid where should I use vaelgor?? always try to pair with convoke or use on cd??

[lament river]

So WS is over KOTG in raids atm ?

[dense lantern]

it's just my personal opinion, prosp vs vi has been an ongoing debate for a while

but

[lament cipher]

I think VI vs prosperity in M+ is probably down to preference, I like the flexibility it gives. VI more or less takes one person away from needing much direct attention

[dense lantern]

prosp is just more useful healing

[bright swift]

First time P2

[fair shadow]

Kotg or WS for M+

[thorn plover]

WS

[graceful ermine]

For me, the number of globals saved feels like it’s far more important than the burst healing of a second swiftmend during intense moments

[stiff pollen]

how does everbloom pop off? just SM on cd and use the sotf asap or do you always try to snipe

[paper harbor]

i remembered my inn food was giving mana, was that no longer the case ?

[graceful ermine]

I got trolled by this in a key yesterday. Half of the inn food only heals hp and the other half only heals mana. You have to go buy the mana kind

[lament cipher]

I try to line it up as well as I can, but not so long so you lose active time

[thorn plover]

Just another thing blizzard broke

[tough portal]

But all auras are private this way now no?

[thorn plover]

Just get mage food from follower dungeons

[tough portal]

Like any regular debuff is also encrypted?!

[rustic copper]

All alive to start of p2?

[thorn plover]

Ya basically they just bastardized the whole thing

[proper geyser]

17+ keys, declined, declined, LF resto shamman

QQ

[livid hearth]

oh btw this talent tree im looking at is keeper of the grove, its not best for m+ right? I should find wildstalker talent tree right?

[static token]

Can someone help me consider my vault? I can take myth heart of wind, big crit/haste neck, big crit/haste ring or the extra bonus roll. I already have gaze myth and we're progging dragons. Is it grief/greedy to not want to take the Heart of Wind as to not 'waste' it down the line when I'd rather have another trinket such as dragons or cosmos trinkets?

[lament cipher]

Wowhead has up-to-date trees

[stable verge]

Oh yeah, how come ? Wasn't it prosp before ?

[rustic copper]

Crit haste necks/rings are not good

[waxen ingot]

Long term is surely better to take roll and roll on a boss u want trinkets on

[rustic copper]

Take heart of wind

[proper geyser]

some will say its not, i find damage, healing and mana regen is better in kotg

[waxen ingot]

but heart is very strong

[proper geyser]

this is in 16s across the board

[bright swift]

yea

[rustic copper]

Heart of wind is on par with dragons trinket

[bright swift]

and then our ret went to the wrong marker

[waxen ingot]

Healing is for sure not better

[bright swift]

so we insta died

[rustic copper]

p2 looks pretty easy

We instantly perished when we got there though

[proper geyser]

disagree, SEAT easier to heal in 16 kotg than ws

[rustic copper]

Is it insta wipe if there’s only 4 in a line?

[pulsar kettle]

[proper geyser]

higher keys dont want druids tho, so it doesnt really matter

lol

[pulsar kettle]

erm

[cursive pilot]

wat

[waxen ingot]

what?

[blissful goblet]

Indeed

[cursive pilot]

??

[true sable]

ragebait

[primal jungle]

lots of druids run high keys tf

[rustic copper]

[dense lantern]

yes but what globals are you saving

when

you're saving more globals when the fight is over gg

[blissful goblet]

The wowhead article was updated

[graceful ermine]

During extended rotty pulls. Which there are a lot of

And also are the hardest pulls

[waxen ingot]

But you dont need that many globals

[dense lantern]

name 3

[waxen ingot]

on those pulls no?

like on rott pulls im dpsing 50% of the time

[livid hearth]

i try to find top warcraft log players talents

[dense lantern]

name 3 extended rotty pulls that are longer than 30s

[waxen ingot]

Name 3 books

[graceful ermine]

The rift guardians in seat

[waxen ingot]

dont get me wrong i like VI more too

[oak garnet]

VI makes it a lot easier to maintain hots on tank and proc photo

[neat orbit]

From the wowhead guide: Put Rejuvenation out on the group before or as damage hits so that your follow-up Regrowth casts are free and will always Crit.

What makes the regrowth casts free/crit and is it just one or consecutive?

[waxen ingot]

but u dont need the extra globals to heal

[mystic pasture]

abundance talent

[pulsar kettle]

a talent called abundance.

[oak garnet]

i mean u do

you can spam rg more

[neat orbit]

Thanks ill read on it then

[graceful ermine]

Yeah less globals spent on Maintanence means more rgs

[dense lantern]

Bro you're saving those globals when the pull is over

[rustic copper]

False

[dense lantern]

less globals spent on maintenance means more starfires

[pearl frost]

any changes in talents for plus or same old ?

[dense lantern]

and sure w/e

[graceful ermine]

True. My emotional state matters just as much as my healing okay

[crystal dome]

hey, is voice to speach sound bugged? I can barely hear my lifebloom reminder's voice to speach as well as the timeline reminders is the same

[graceful ermine]

Love yourself more

[waxen ingot]

yes

all tts

[crystal dome]

any workarounds?

or open my eyes? 😄

[waxen ingot]

not sure

play a diff game till they fix

works for me

[crystal dome]

😄

[oak garnet]

when u play pug 17s it means more regrowths 😑

[dense lantern]

when you play pug 17s prosp is literally the thing that prevents you from wiping when 3 bolts go through

[bright swift]

idk man

fuck regrowth?

[stable verge]

Jesus fucking christ

[waxen ingot]

30cpm rejuv

10cpm rg

[oak garnet]

my mana bar would b hurtin'

[waxen ingot]

instead of spreading free rgs

[peak charm]

Does the M33Kauras dispell assignment work with Danders frames?

[waxen ingot]

hit boss to get mana back

[stable verge]

Is that also the strat in mm+ then ? Stacks hots on tank to farm photosysthesis on the group ?

[waxen ingot]

stack hots on the lb target

doesnt need to a tank

[stable verge]

Yeah ofc

[waxen ingot]

alot of high druids keep their lb on an aug for example

[stable verge]

Tbh I was more thinking mage or aug but ye

[true fjord]

oh wait why an aug

[stable verge]

Same ye, they tend to vanish as soon as I blink
So VI is back on the menu.. cool

[grand stone]

Hmm isee lot of logs with everbloom so high on many people, how is the best way to doing this?

[oak garnet]

it was never off the menu

[waxen ingot]

not tanky

[dense lantern]

you put it on the people that need healing

[dense lantern]

[true fjord]

oh i thought there was some sort of throughput aspect

[peak charm]

OMG DRUID NERFF::: ... Now that i got your attention : Does the M33Kauras dispell assignment work with Danders frames?

[stable verge]

Well no ofc but prosp was recommanded on wowhead. vI was always great but now seems that even guide has changed

[waxen ingot]

yes

[pulsar kettle]

in the aug/demo/ddh comp, aug is the only spec that can die

[peak charm]

ty

[half star]

Not sure if you got an answer but yes

Oh needed to scroll down more

Teehee

[peak charm]

[royal juniper]

where do you download m33kauras from

[peak charm]

github

google "m33kauras github"

[royal juniper]

ty

[pseudo tangle]

so wildstalker > kotg for m+ hps?

is that still the consensus? sorry things move so fast its hard to keep up

[tawdry isle]

I would just stick with wildstalker idd

Wowhead has up to date trees

[hushed sand]

@gentle nova That you in my M Chim run?

[gentle nova]

ya

[hushed sand]

Word. Don't make me look to bad, bruh!

[waxen ingot]

what char do you play on?

i tried looking at your logs for bird

but i cant find the char you logged on

[nocturne vortex]

question for delves, not that it matters because 11's are easy but does owl weaving actually do more damage than cat weaving now? lol

even with wild stalker

[primal jungle]

OMG DRUID NERFF::: ... Now that i got your attention : Does the M33Kauras dispell assignment work with Danders frames?

[plain sun]

Hi, with the talent changes, what should I prioritize for healing in Mythic raids? ^^

[copper mantle]

what's the fastest water we can use between pulls, are mage biscuits up there?

[hushed sand]

that was pretty funny

[waxen ingot]

No gameplay changes

[plain sun]

with wildstalker there is no change ?

[waxen ingot]

You get more from LB + WG + SW on self

but we did that before anyway and now you just get more out of it

[hexed locust]

how does the apex nerf feels in the m+ now?

[waxen ingot]

Its a massive buff actually

and its disgustingly strong

[hexed locust]

just with the passive?

[fierce isle]

check pins

[waxen ingot]

not sure what r u asking

[tropic quiver]

never played dudu until two days ago (leveling still)
I've just read druids arent cat weaving anymore and they dont go boomie form either, maybe it's a dum question but is heart of the wild just a defensive then? or do you transform into one of the pump spec just for it?

[waxen ingot]

You go cat

and click it for single target dmg

[tropic quiver]

thank you !

[dim whale]

Guides say LB tanks or heavy ST needing targets… why the difference?

[cursive pilot]

anything worth bonus looting in march heroic

[grand herald]

Control of efflo placement, buffing your self heal that cleaves

[tiny summit]

If I have Gaze + Locus what do you think the best pieces to reroll on are?

[dim whale]

So ignore the guides in LB target? Do we still SM on CD or wait until we need to heal or pop bloom

[grand herald]

Sm on cd

[visual musk]

do people mostly keep LB on the tank?

[urban bone]

I just got dungeon deserter debuff for leaving an lfr raid early

[grand herald]

Self

In raid

[visual musk]

sorry i mean M plus

[grand herald]

Since you gave no context 😛

Tank or whoever is hurt then

[hexed locust]

What changed so WS is now the better raidspecc?

[visual musk]

yeah i'd love to be able to keep it on the squishiest dps

[oak garnet]

squishiest dps is still taking exponentially less damage than tank

[visual musk]

tha'ts true

[oak garnet]

on average

[urban bone]

You can leave it on the tank and swap it to a dps when needed

Like when two debuff go out and you can only dispel 1 etc

[dim whale]

SM ourselves only on CD or folks who need an instant heal

[visual musk]

ok good point

[urban bone]

You can move it around don’t be afraid to, just move it only when necessary

So where ever it lives it keeps 3 stacks as much as possible

[gentle nova]

it was already competitive/better than kotg last patch

[wispy snow]

anyother nuances to the wildstalker raid build? or just keep lifebloom up prep ramprs and pretty much same play style?

[gentle nova]

but now with apex u want to stack healing mods on 1 target so it gets better

[wispy snow]

mattiu so we want to stack hots on a few targets to maximize output?

[gentle nova]

stack hots on your lb target

implant your lb target

then just play normal

[wispy snow]

ok

prob dumb question but its fine to overheal with SM on lb target correct?

for VI extension

[rustic copper]

Yes

I only cast swiftmend on my lifebloom

[gentle nova]

ya

[wispy snow]

figured so i've just been getting out shielded by monks and priests so much i want to come with my A game for raid tonight lol

[rustic copper]

I do not flex it ever

[cedar moon]

does SM trigger apex?

[gentle nova]

yes

[cedar moon]

ty

implant your lb target

what’s implant 😅

[wispy snow]

also i've seen some builds not taking MS... i'm probably not playing well enough but really like having the option for more mana if needed... looksl ike its almot 50-50 on archon and ppl switch it for embrace?

[fierce isle]

If you are running out of mana use MS, if you're not use Embrace

[wispy snow]

👍

maybe i can convince the raid to give me source LOL

[waxen ingot]

Source is very little mana

Play MS

you lose a bit of healing but you lose more if you go oom

[wispy snow]

👍

[stable iron]

How does our raid healing change if we're running Wildstalker now instead of Keeper? I know the different talents but is the playstyle any different?

[waxen ingot]

and dont use mana pots

[waxen ingot]

no

play exactly the same

[stable iron]

Except now we keep apex talent up obviously

[waxen ingot]

keeping LB target hotted up is more value now but no changes in playstyle

[warm bear]

Hey, I was just wondering about the preferred stat percentages. Im currently sitting on 32% haste and 27% mastery. But I have noticed that people go for Mastery>Haste instead of the opposite. Is mastery the preferred stat over haste in an M+ environment?

[normal swift]

Implant is a talent in the wildstalker tree that makes a symbiotic bloom to grow on your swiftmend or wildgrowth target for 6s

[rustic copper]

Don’t play ms, learn to press regrowth properly and constantly cast without going oom, stop spamming wg

Swap back in ms and spam more wg if you want but if you just take ms and continue to int your mana you’ll do no healing is my advice

[fierce isle]

how many abundance stacks do you maintain average?

[plain steeple]

But do you play embrace then, even with less wg casts?

[gentle nova]

8

[plain steeple]

Or liveliness?

[gentle nova]

That choice wont matter

Both are 2% ers

[plain steeple]

Likely not I agree.

[gentle nova]

But liv makes phosy and blooms proc a bit more so

[normal swift]

So basically, our symbiotic blooms are like the apex beacon on holy pala? We wanna try and target them as much as possible if Ive understood it correctly?

[gentle nova]

Nah

You ignore them

[normal swift]

why? healing them gives more bonus healing

[gentle nova]

Cause its irrelevant and you want to spread your regrowths more

[plain steeple]

You heal those who need healing. And you spread RG as Mattiu says.

[gentle nova]

If you have good rg coverage after a tranq for example you could press a couple rgs on yourself

But thats it

[normal swift]

well obviously, but if i can choose between a symbiotic bloom target and a non target why wouldn't i choose the bloom target? Its 20% extra healing + splash to other targets?

[little cloak]

Targeting the apex beacon in hpal is also wrong btw but wrong discord for that

[grave quail]

Is the regrowth healing that NB refers to the initial heal value or both initial and hot? If I heal someone for 100k with RG, will all other players with RG get healed for 20k?

[grand herald]

Initial afaik

[rustic copper]

8-10

[rustic copper]

Liveliness is not 2%

[grave quail]

so if I have regrowth on 10 targets, and SOTF + regrowth, NB will use that boosted initial regrowth heal to calculate the 20% on all 10 players?

[gentle nova]

Source

[grand herald]

Afaik, thats how it works yeah

[wispy snow]

@rustic copper i think ive been tryign so hard to keep up with 2 mist weavers and a disc priest i'm def waaay waay overhealing... so to keep mana high i need to be regrowthing more at 12 rejuvs... and do you only use WG when aoe dam is out (i'm in like a world 1200 guild and usually parse at 50ish on prog bosses so lots of improvements to be had just trying to learn the last bits of min maxing)

[grave quail]

it's actually tough to pick talents now

are the diminshing returns on mastery too high for harmonious blooming to be worth it with everbloom?

[grizzled seal]

how much do you think it is

[reef sedge]

Yo guys, I'm doing pretty good in M+ healing but tI'm really struggling to get a proper overview while raid healing large groups. I'm currently using Danders but I'm having trouble tracking rejuv stacks & lifebloom uptime, do you have any good addon recommendations for those two specifically?

[plain sun]

But why play without reforestation in raids?

[grand herald]

Cause convoke is better

[plain sun]

But we were playing with both?

[tulip nexus]

are bonus rolls still bugged?

[grand herald]

Sorry yeah i read incarn, refo loses a lot of power with WS, and we really want photo with apex

[grizzled seal]

I am a 2 min convoke adept now

[thorn plover]

Dropping a sub price increase right after this patch is hilarious

[grizzled seal]

No way in hell I am dropping TV

[rustic copper]

3.5%

[grizzled seal]

Looking at logs my TV2 is doing like 4-5% if we count NB increase

[grizzled seal]

where the fuck are you getting this from

[rustic copper]

My ass

[vapid glacier]

niko u posted your talents yday, can u repost them if u can :>

[grizzled seal]

I hate it here

[vapid glacier]

i guess i can go look my bad

[grizzled seal]

you just move embrace to liveliness

I try this tomorrow

[dense lantern]

caught in the crossfire

[rustic copper]

I think the bloom proc rate, photo proc rate, verdancy, etc. all adds up

[vapid glacier]

[rustic copper]

@vapid glacier This but liveliness over embrace

[grizzled seal]

this is literally what I said

[rustic copper]

Yeah I didn’t read mb

[vapid glacier]

thank u friends

[grizzled seal]

yeah embrace is shit

[oak garnet]

embrace not as good when we not broccoli half the fight

[meager ridge]

hello friends. can someone please explain to me why there are so many new logs with wildstalker hero talents on the raid after the patch? what made ppl change hero talents?

[grizzled seal]

everbloom buffs

[vapid glacier]

i raid tonight for the first time since patch wish me luck team

[grizzled seal]

you just lifebloom self and swiftmend self for guaranteed healing increase

[grizzled seal]

are you tracking forestwalk?

I think I might start regrowthing around swiftmends

[wispy snow]

looking at the talents is the huge everbloom increase boosted by our mastery with implants on LB target... so when we proc apex its just calculating bloom at like 130% bc of all the hots on them?

[plain steeple]

I did a test raid with WS 2 days ago and had almost 90% Forestwalk uptime.

Really just press Regrowth enough.

[grizzled seal]

82% for me in this log

[rustic copper]

No but that’s smart

[grizzled seal]

but also if you are missing swiftemnds in those 10% then what's the point

[rustic copper]

I think what I need to do is try to ramp regrowth a little more

[plain steeple]

Would you delay your swiftmend for it though?

Is that worth it?

[rustic copper]

Especially with pandemic refreshes

[grizzled seal]

no, just regrowth before obviously

you can see your swiftmend cd

[grand herald]

We are stacking way more than 130% onto our LBs

[plain steeple]

So if you don’t press Regrowth before there obviously is a reason.

Otherwise if there isn’t a reason, you would have pressed it anyways.

[grizzled seal]

I also trolled today with a wrong talent

[brisk jetty]

hi / on resto does that apex talent affect on all raid members when you consume soul of the forest ? or the consume affect on players who only standing in efflorsence

[grizzled seal]

Forgot to spec root network

Did not notice for some reason

[wispy snow]

ok i was just looking at mastery and potential hots out... i'm not the wow math guy i appreciate all the ppl in here who can crunch the numbers so i can follow lol!

[rustic copper]

Gg

[desert pilot]

is it worth keeping 2 rejuvs on LB player for photosyntesis ? also SM can be used on any target or prio LB ?

[grizzled seal]

yes

[rustic copper]

You should keep 2 rejuvs on yourself with lifebloom and perma extend it with vi

[grizzled seal]

you always do 2 rejuvs on LB target and swiftmend that

[fading knot]

Apex is any 6 targets, only verdancy is dependent on efflo

[desert pilot]

ty guys

[fading knot]

Do you also cast every wild growth on yourself?

[grizzled seal]

who told me the buffs were not big

[rustic copper]

No wg doesn’t hit the people you target

[grizzled seal]

this is 12.0.0

[rustic copper]

If it hits me that’s ideal

[thorn whale]

Dont show me this I’m crying

[rustic copper]

But it’s not controllable

[brisk jetty]

thanks

[grizzled seal]

we jumped 10 points on all percentiles above 70

paladins got like 5% in the logs?

what's going on there

[distant birch]

Fake logs

disc is 4 places too high

[grizzled seal]

huh

[tough portal]

Werent we saying 8-10% buff all along?

[grizzled seal]

yeah and some people were saying it's not a lot

when you buff a healer that was used in rwf by 10% I would say it's fucking stupid

but hey some people disagreed

[thorn whale]

Going to bed on this one

[wispy snow]

didnt' they also bring disc and mist back to the pack?

[rustic copper]

I would’ve been happy and surprised if we just didn’t get nerfed

Buffs is just stupid

[rustic copper]

Check healer dps

[forest pollen]

The apex buff is cracked in raids

[fading knot]

Huh. I always thought it originated on the target and spread to targets around them

[grizzled seal]

I have no idea why we got buffed in this way, I am gonna be honest

[rustic copper]

Check everyone’s boe and auggie rune status

[grizzled seal]

I said it before the patch and I am saying it now

[thorn whale]

Check why my dps flopped 5 sec into egg :/

[forest pollen]

I think they just don’t want people not taking the apex talents

[wispy snow]

you think blizz just didnt' like we werent using apex in raid and didnt' realize how they were buffing it?

[grizzled seal]

It does a "search" of the lowest health targets around your cast target

[rustic copper]

It is targetted and heals people around them but there’s no guarantee it hits the target unless there’s not enough ppl nearby

[muted thicket]

Vault was shit: bonus roll to drop it into spire or socket for mythic head?

[grizzled seal]

PWR for disc will always hit the target, WG will not

[fading knot]

It feels like that

[tough portal]

Devs are just shooting the shit with tuning bro, Devourer got buffed while being top 3 DPS in every game mode

[forest pollen]

They saw resto wasn’t using it raids and weren’t happy

[rustic copper]

Healer?

[fading knot]

Ah

[thorn whale]

Wat

[grizzled seal]

it's actually shocking how many times we had people run to the wrong color lmao

[thorn whale]

Our monk used dragon punch

And it registered him on wrong color

Because he was in the air

[grizzled seal]

Lmao

This game is so bad on patch days

It's unreal

[bright swift]

@grizzled seal I died on the last intermission spikes that go on all people

[thorn whale]

We had two sub 250k hp pulls

[thorn plover]

This game is so bad on patch days

[thorn whale]

My fking eyes

[bright swift]

fucking private auras

covering the guy on the left

[grizzled seal]

[thorn plover]

I don't have high standards for blizzard on patch day, but they should be very embarrassed by this

[hexed locust]

after patch the PTT sound is so low, anyone know what audio its using?

[thorn plover]

Effects

[hexed locust]

Thanks bud

[thorn plover]

Hope you don't like your ears

[molten gull]

do haste buffs apply to HoTs already out, or just HoTs that you cast once you have the buff?

[thorn plover]

They're dynamic

[grizzled seal]

Yes, stat changes are dynamic

[molten gull]

sweet thanks

[sinful zephyr]

Is Nebulous Voidcore working properly? I heard this morning that ppl were getting same items if they use it in same dungeon

[fading knot]

Imagine if we had snapshotting

[grizzled seal]

I wouldn't use them in dungeons just yet

[thorn plover]

No you can get duplicates

[hexed locust]

yeah that was an earrape ;D did they change anything for the addon sounds?

[thorn plover]

All TTS uses that now

Good luck

[hexed locust]

ah bullocks

loved your addon with the TTS ;D

[thorn plover]

Me too

You can use a normal sound and it works fine. Just not tts

Same goes for blizzards cdm

[sinful zephyr]

I mean, you can, but its not a must?

[meager ridge]

so, should he save swiftmend for the moment when the dmg lands and use it to proc the LB heal? instead on the more loose usage we had using keeper of the grove?

[nocturne vortex]

asking again does owl weaving do more damage than cat weaving now in delves?

[formal crown]

with rolling the tokens does it matter if its a 19 or a 10?

[formal crown]

most def

[nocturne vortex]

even with wild stalker? that's crazy

[tough portal]

It's just random, not locked in dupes

[sinful zephyr]

It should be that way I guess

[muted thicket]

Asking the real questions

[slender gust]

Is HotW still cat? Is FF good enough even not talenting Rip?

[idle lake]

why does my game feel so slow

my fps is horrible

[slender gust]

Also did anyone else’s TTS alerts get REALLY quiet after the patch? Both my LifebloomReminder addon and my CDM TTS reminders are barely audible now. My Holy Priest was complaining last night in raid too. How fix?

[thorn plover]

Yes it's everyone. You can turn your effects volume up, but say goodbye to your ear drums

No there is no fix

[silk ice]

First thing to try is updating your addons, lots of api changes happened and it may be causing new errors

[mellow phoenix]

can blizzard not just leave this shit alone for a bit damn

[slender gust]

Ugh. I know they’re a crutch, but my ADHD brain needs themmmmm

[thorn plover]

You can change them to non TTS sounds and they work

Just TTS is broken

[slender gust]

That’s probably a fine fix for now, but I would need to train my brain on which one is which

Does the LifebloomReminder addon have settings to change it to a different sound as well since CDM can’t handle pandemic? That’s frankly the most important one

[thorn plover]

I'll manually add sound files that say "Lifebloom" and "No Lifebloom" later tonight, but you won't be able to customize what it says, the voice, the rate, etc anymore

[thorn plover]

Yes

[meager ridge]

up

[gentle nova]

anyone know why my wow is taking up all my memory and crashing

[gaunt willow]

New visual for Everbloom in this patch right?

Or going mad?

[gentle nova]

yea

[gaunt willow]

I quite like it!

[vocal vine]

whats our raid build havent done raid in a while is it wildstalekr now?

[gaunt willow]

The flash of green

[jaunty bay]

Yea I love it

[gentle nova]

its very cool

[gaunt willow]

Awesome

Now Blizzard leave us alone haha

This is one of the most fun iterations of r Druid in a long time

[desert pilot]

I was looking for that, drove me crazy during raid

That's so bad

[tough portal]

It's the same iteration as a week ago

[gentle nova]

XD

[tough portal]

[gentle nova]

as the patch launched

[cerulean stratus]

bro

every boss

you see orange

besides alleria

[dense lantern]

but now they can cast starfire

you wouldn't get it

[toxic linden]

Is it better to use lights potential or recklessness for keys?

[gentle nova]

i see a fair bit of all the colors?

[dense lantern]

blud didnt get the memo

unforch

[pulsar kettle]

uilenzeik a real one

[runic pike]

Heya, new to resto, so balance talents are worth investing in over cat now in the regular druid tree?

[cerulean stratus]

on king, dragons, paladins, chimaerus?

[nocturne vortex]

tested Cleave cat weaving about 20k dps. cleave boomkin 70-73 k (this is without any bursts, just straight up rotation)

holy shit hte difference is night and day lol

[dense lantern]

tested where

[nocturne vortex]

on dummies

[thorn plover]

Lol

[gentle nova]

am i color blind

or something

i see disc mw and pres on pair with druid

[dense lantern]

[nocturne vortex]

Even single target cat weaving was doing 23k average and boomkin is like 20k

[narrow ruin]

this just look more healthy right?

[nocturne vortex]

might be able to get it higher with keeper too lol

[narrow ruin]

It's not like we see 80% drood

[tough portal]

You're telling me you did less damage hitting more targets

How are you catweaving mate

[nocturne vortex]

are you misunderstanding what I said? I did more damage hitting more targets

[tough portal]

No you said 20k catweaving in aoe

And 23k single target

[thorn plover]

^

[dense lantern]

scientific method bros

[gleaming spoke]

Thank you.

[narrow ruin]

I think he said single target both?

[pulsar kettle]

hmm

🔍

[thorn plover]

Receipts

[tough portal]

I mean nobody is questioning whether catweaving does more damage than Starfire spam, obviously it doesnt, that's been known all expansion

But you're doing less damage in AOE than in single target so idk you're just not catweaving properly?!

[junior belfry]

is it worth using the nebulous voidcore yet?

[narrow ruin]

I'm saving for Cosmos

[nocturne vortex]

oh no i know what it was

[dense lantern]

idk what content you do

so idk what to tell you

[nocturne vortex]

heart of the wild procced on single target but not aoe

messed up my test

[dense lantern]

wym procced

[thorn plover]

Great testing

[whole horizon]

[nocturne vortex]

thank you

[thorn plover]

Main damage spell

[gentle nova]

so whats your point

[thorn plover]

Don't press it

[junior belfry]

im thinking to use it in the quel danas raid? to try get the 1h

[gentle nova]

that mw druid and disc can all get the same hps

?

[whole horizon]

now test it in a dungeon and not on dummies

[cerulean stratus]

the distribution on some bosses is not equal

[idle lake]

can someone tell me which addon is causing this issue?

[cerulean stratus]

as you're saying

[dense lantern]

Blizzard

[whole horizon]

TipTacTalents

[gentle nova]

im not saying equal but im seeing top druid did 220k hps and top monk did 217k hps

[tough portal]

I was gonna hit the dummies for a couple mins and then I looked at damage meter

Good damage meter blizz

[thorn plover]

Welcome to world of warcraft: midnight

[gentle nova]

do u have any tips to stop my wow from crashing to memory loss

this never happened before

[whole horizon]

bro i just noticed the other day wowutils has like the same privacy disclosure as archon

[nocturne vortex]

i dont deserve to be roasted for my damage when there was a guy in here yesterday who said restos needed to dps in raids and thats why grove guardians was better

[dense lantern]

download more ram

[whole horizon]

you're literally ruining wow for me

[thorn plover]

Nvidia card?

[gentle nova]

okay i dont have more ram

[gentle nova]

ya

[idle lake]

what does tiptac do again

[whole horizon]

? its your addon

ive never even heard of that

[icy wing]

wowhead guide looks goofy for m+ talents

[short stag]

Is there an owlweaving guide?

[dense lantern]

dreamgrove.gg/planner

[thorn plover]

Go into device manager, sound, uninstall the Nvidia sound drivers

[proven phoenix]

bro asked what the addon he installed himself does

just disable it

[thorn plover]

Fixed mine

[dense lantern]

if you want more features please let me know and I might implement them

or not

idk resto spells also might be fucked because no one in here is really using it

[split knot]

qq - whats a good addon to track peoples defensives and if they took any avoidable dmg?

[dense lantern]

but if at least 1 (one) person starts using it i might fix

[idle lake]

omg whatever it was i disabled it and it fixed all my issues

[tough portal]

Just talking about the numbers you put up mate, I don't read 100% of chat and I can only talk about what's in front me innit

[idle lake]

thank you fragui for installing malware on my pc (joke)

[jaunty bay]

I believe blizz nuked the API can't do that anymore I think

[nocturne vortex]

i was joking

[split knot]

which one?

[tough portal]

On the 5 target dummies rn catweaving should do like 40k dps without using HOTW and Convoke

If you're doing less, bald

[pulsar kettle]

both.

[jaunty bay]

All of them they removed the ability for addons to do that

[split knot]

god damn

[idle lake]

for damage taken you cant seee anything

for defensives its built into blizzard ui

[dense lantern]

there is minicc but it's ass

[split knot]

so if a PUG just said 'i didnt take avoidable dmg that was on you to heal me' i just have to eat shit?

[dense lantern]

but also better than nothing probably

[jaunty bay]

I just have the defensive show on my party/raid frames and basically try to mental note when they were used by party members

[thorn plover]

Can't see CDs just that they used it

[idle lake]

you can see it after combat in details

[pulsar kettle]

why listen to pugs

[idle lake]

i think

[idle lake]

ohhh right

yeah

[pulsar kettle]

if they die to a ground swirl and whine about it just ignore them

[whole horizon]

dummy tests arent real tests so nobody could take it seriously anyways

[idle lake]

no way to see cds

[split knot]

because any feedback could be valid if i can validate it

[idle lake]

the workaround addons like blizzi are awful too

[split knot]

i think i need to learn details better to see how i can track that down quickly

[dense lantern]

also wait where

on the website?

this seems fine https://wowutils.com/privacy-policy

[whole horizon]

i navigated there on my phone

[thorn plover]

Don't bother, half the damage and death stuff in details is completely wrong

[whole horizon]

ive only ever seen it on mobile

[narrow ruin]

is voidcores still bugged out and give dups?

[split knot]

that doesnt help either ^_^

[idle lake]

check logs after dungeon

[dense lantern]

idk i'd doublecheck but the one I linked seems pretty nice

[idle lake]

also u can tell damage was avoidable

if it comes out of nowhere

[whole horizon]

but it did the thing where it was like "validate your cookies" and then it allows you to go through each one individually

[split knot]

is there a good log parser/visualizer or should I just suck it up and upload shit to warcraftlogs

[whole horizon]

and just like you said, there were about 920 different companies/services listed and most of them had "Legitimate Interest" checked

[dense lantern]

thoughts

[whole horizon]

and the only way to disable it was to go down the list manually and uncheck every single one

[tough portal]

Arguing over whose fault it was doesn't help either
Upload logs and check stuff later to assess how you played stuff and how much more you coulda done

[split knot]

to warcraftlogs?

[idle lake]

i dont use it

[vivid peak]

Just look at deaths on warcraftlogs

[tough portal]

Sure

[idle lake]

just know its there

[dense lantern]

weird, i'll check on my phone

ty for letting me know

[nocturne vortex]

@tough portal so should I lunar strike spam even in single target?

[whole horizon]

i'm 99% certain i was trying to access wowutils and not WCL

[dense lantern]

god the planner still have grove guardians

[whole horizon]

i'll delete my cache etc and attempt it again

[dense lantern]

good times...

[split knot]

is that a thing i can do now? im looking

[dense lantern]

on details yeah

on default blizz prob not

[urban bone]

Orbital strike

[thorn plover]

It's usually not very accurate

When you compare to a log

[split knot]

OK i see it on details, gonna make a new panel then cross check it with warcraft logs

if its within 20% variance im goign to use details

[dense lantern]

ive never had any issues.

or rather

it doesnt show missed interrupts etc

[whole horizon]

@dense lantern dm'd you

[thorn plover]

I'm starting to realize I actually hate this game

[dense lantern]

just whatever blizzard decided to classify as avoidable damage

[cyan forge]

same

[dense lantern]

welcome to the club

[whole horizon]

"we and our 999 partners"

[tough portal]

I love this game

[gentle nova]

is it a bad idea to delete this?

holy fuck its so much space

[thorn plover]

No idea what that is

Id send it 😏

[gentle nova]

holy hell

[idle lake]

how long until they fix the strafe bug

thoughts

[gentle nova]

my log folder had 200gb of 2022 logs

[high hawk]

havent really played wildstalker in raids. does the playstyle differ by a lot? what are the most important things i should be doing?

[whole horizon]

no changes whatsoever

[sinful zephyr]

If I replace crafted weapon, what should be my second embelishment? First one is lining on belt

[idle lake]

is it the archon app that is evil, or just the warcraft logs uploader in general

[whole horizon]

another lining on another piece

[gentle nova]

2 arcanoweaves

[sinful zephyr]

Thanks

[glossy onyx]

lifebloomalerts TTS was louder prior to the update, any fix?

[thorn plover]

It's all TTS in the entire game. Waiting on blizz to fix

[high hawk]

i can't hear the stealth sound anymore on my druid when i prowl

[whole horizon]

the company's customer-facing software, ie all websites and applications, are loaded to the gills with ad-tracking and privacy permissions

[glossy onyx]

okay, thank you

[fleet ore]

@glossy onyx Last night TTS was dead quiet. Today I heard it was moved to the 'EFFECTS' audio channel. I went in game and turned up EFFECTS volume slider and now I can hear TTS alerts again

[whole horizon]

you're basically not safe using any of their tools, whether you're browsing WCL or using one of their apps. you consent to their privacy agreement when you visit their website. the only steps you can take would involve locking down your browser of choice.

[thorn plover]

You can try turning your effects volume up but good luck with your ear drums

[idle lake]

lmfao

wow

[whole horizon]

the more you know

[idle lake]

and i have to go through all of them to disable "legitimate interest"

[whole horizon]

this is a side-effect of net neutrality

just the barest hint of consequences you're starting to see

it will get worse because this is all entirely legal for them to do

[idle lake]

oh nvm u can bulk turn off all the legitimate interests too

its not legal though is it

cookies have to be easily disableable

or something

[whole horizon]

it's not easy to disable or opt out on mobile.

[idle lake]

ahh

[split walrus]

2x ug > imp sm + gg ?

[idle lake]

hes true

[slender gust]

Base Blizzard raid frames have been broken for me since the patch. My MMO mouse binds just didn’t work. Turning on ElvUi frames fixed it xD. Go figure. War on addons and base UI breaks. Solution is go back to ElvUI

[idle lake]

my party frames are working fine but theyve made the big defensives smaller when theyre active

[gentle nova]

nop

[idle lake]

which seems weird an unnecessary

[split walrus]

feel like gg is shit if u actually lb self

[mystic pasture]

Yeah I noticed that the icons were smaller on loading in on Tuesday; I just adjusted them back to size

[split walrus]

they just pump healing into u

[gentle nova]

its 3% still

ish

1 ug point is 1.5% IF you press wg a lot, and you shouldnt

cause you will oom

unless u got externals i guess

[idle lake]

wish i could move where on the frame they were

but we move

nexus point doesnt give me a trinket thats an upgrade

so can i take myth coach whistle from my vault at no downside

[mystic pasture]

Except the whistle is kinda bad

Why does NPX affect your vault?

[split knot]

also QQ - does the latest patch push us out of wildstalker?

[idle lake]

bonus rolls

[whole horizon]

nah not unless you're a lunatic

[idle lake]

if f.e windrunner was my best bet for dungeon rolls

[whole horizon]

kotg does better caster dps than wildstalker but that's not a consideration when you're deciding your spec

[idle lake]

it would be bad to take coach whistle if i get myth heart of wind

[mystic pasture]

I mean, you could get another token and roll somewhere else, it’s less BLP but whistle was nerfed into irrelevancy

[warm mortar]

do we actually have to craft mana food now or did they fuck up the quel'danas rations into health food and it'll be fixed?

[gentle nova]

buy sanguithorn tea off ah

[whole horizon]

assume it's a bug that will be fixed, when? who knows.

[wise eagle]

is the lifebloom animation new with this patch or have i just been blind until now

[idle lake]

i use this

[whole horizon]

i grab mage food when i log in and then i dont worry about it until the next time i log in

[slender gust]

I assume the “caster rotation” to the extent that there is one is in AoE you just sunfire and spam starfire, maybe moonfire the prio mob if you feel like it, and then ST is dots, starsurge on CD, fill with Wrath?

[whole horizon]

nah

sec

#resto message

[vocal vine]

which talent do we choose for raid, idont raid normally

[whole horizon]

grab the raid build from wowhead. you can play either hero spec as they're very close, but wildstalker is the new recommended build in raid.

[slender gust]

So it’s not worth moonfiring a prio mob in AoE, and Sunfire is dead unless you’re on Liveliness. Okay. Does the catweaving stuff with HotW mean I need to find 2 points somewhere for Rake and Rip?

[whole horizon]

nah, HotW has nothing to do with Rake or Rip.

Feral Frenzy puts a DoT on your target and most of the damage comes from it + the ability hits

[supple solstice]

have the bonus roll bug been fixed?

[whole horizon]

it generates 5cp so ideally you use those CP somehow, but i'm not sure how it fits in with DPS. i'm assuming you want to Bite and then go back to casting.

[slender gust]

Bite is terrible, so I wasn’t sure if you needed to talent down into Rip for it

[waxen ingot]

Bite isnt teribble

[whole horizon]

it's probably less terrible than having 5cp for free and not using them at all

the opportunity cost of bite assumes you can rip instead, but if you cant then its still a bad idea to waste CP period

[topaz cedar]

keep scrolling too lmao it gets worse

[toxic linden]

Bite does a lot of dmg if there are vines on the target

[idle lake]

my tmog has no matching flying mounts #ItsOver

[glass crane]

ok I tried dropping r4 everbloom in a key and I think it cost me 13k hps

[idle lake]

why wouldyou do that?

[gentle nova]

why would u think

[primal jungle]

Thank you for trying stuff

[gentle nova]

he wants to play with 1 less talent point

[primal jungle]

These cowards refuse to try my off meta builds COWARDS

[idle lake]

cant think of any capstone thats more valuable than splashing 5 trillion healing on your group every 12 seconds

[tall depot]

Is it safe to spend voidcores in m+ now?

[gentle nova]

the good thing is you dont have to think

[abstract whale]

does it still make sense to have LB on yourself with regards to splashing onto others when playing wildstalker?

[rugged moss]

Question, so in mythic+ if we sunfire and starfire for dps, are we changing into boomie form first then doing that, or using those abilities in human form?

[whole horizon]

yeah, all of our self-healing amps are tied to class tree so your hero spec doesn't change that.

[naive chasm]

don't think so

[high hawk]

just queue into a follower dungeon. the mage NPC will drop a table

[rigid mirage]

Do we really think it will be fixed this week

I've never played pve till this week but pvp bugs last awhile

[vague gyro]

just get myth gaze and corespark multitool with your two rolls and move on

[rigid mirage]

I got cloak and giga ring

But waiting for 3rd roll

[whole horizon]

but myth gaze costs 2 rolls

[high hawk]

skipped the core this week in vault for a double dragons trinket. diff was going to be miniscule according to QE

[whole horizon]

it is updated, you just landed on the webpage for the Rank 1 spellID

[rigid frigate]

ohh

okay ty

gonna delete my ignorance haha

[gentle charm]

do we do anything different for the wildstalker raid build?

[rigid mirage]

There's a faq but I don't think so put bloom and sm yourself

Keep giga hots on you for photo

[oak garnet]

Pretty much that.

[whole horizon]

you have more self-healing amps but that doesn't mean you're always the best LB target.

[oak garnet]

Keep yourself hotted and then use rg rj and cds like before. Use as much wg as your mana will allow

[whole horizon]

still prefer to put it on somebody who is always standing in range of 2+ other players

if there's a player in your raid who dies consistently, consider putting it on them.

[rigid mirage]

Does sr double dip with the buff apex?

Is it a 100% talent now?

[gentle charm]

but if you put it on yourself you are invincible lol

[whole horizon]

yeah but i'm practically invincible anyways because i play well

i'd much rather have it on my melee DPS or holy priest

i don't gain anything by being at 100% HP the entire fight except it makes raiding more boring

and i guess i save HP pots and dont press my healthstone keybind as often as other people

all else being equal, you do more HPS when it's on yourself. but all things are never equal and you should use your brain.

[thorn plover]

I don't think I've used a stone or healthpot yet this xpac

[fickle garden]

toxic

[thorn plover]

Cuts into my regrowth cpm

[uneven cedar]

if the apex talent was so good why didnt we play it before ?

[idle lake]

didnt splash on as many people

and didnt do as much

[uneven cedar]

17% is pretty crazy for not specing it

[idle lake]

it was changed

[hollow leaf]

30 percent nerf next week

[idle lake]

or are you just a pessimist

[torn thunder]

~20% healing for 5 talents points is decent ye

[raw kayak]

does the qelive sim correctly sim trinkets, or should we be looking at the separate trinket rankings?

[idle lake]

sims correctly

[raw kayak]

ty

[idle lake]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/cdivjnlfkwcv

do i take a socket here

[ivory cove]

hey guys...
how do you guys feel healing each tank spec? anyone can give me some feedback?
(i'm a tank btw)

[fickle garden]

Hey guys how can i convince me raid to go double resto druid and let me bench my paladin

[ivory cove]

do you guys gor any other paladin for the raid buff?

[peak charm]

@bright swift I was looking at one of your vids for m vanguard, do u use Dander frames or Grid ?

[torn thunder]

Brew seems the toughest, never afraid of them just falling over. Prot war and Guardian are mostly tanky. Prot pala is fine until they suddenly explode. Blood is scary xD BDk is just out of your control wether they live or die completely xD

[thorn plover]

Brew good, bear good, pally good, warrior ok, dk ok, dh ick

[supple seal]

Pally can fall over so quickly if they aren’t great though

[bright swift]

grid

[wet stone]

i was looking at new M+ spec, any idea why we drop innervate?

[idle lake]

are recrafts still bugged

[prime jacinth]

I have a 285 Alnhara cane, but just got a myth corespark multitool from a reroll. Is it worth it to use myth crests to upgrade the corespark? Or just save them for now

[whole horizon]

upgrade it

[thorn plover]

Well we have MS so you should have unlimited mana. Also you should have never had innervate in the first place since mana is basically a non issue in m+ for us

[prime jacinth]

You think so?

[wet stone]

thanks

[idle lake]

is lycaras inspiration worth

4% magic damage

over a second point in forest walk

[oak garnet]

Hell nah

[whole horizon]

myth crest cap is at 600 rn for the season

[idle lake]

if you would attack an opponent who controls a forest you may attack as if they had no blockers

[thorn plover]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bugs-pervade-patch-12-0-5s-launch-leading-to-severe-player-frustration-381349?utm_source=discord-webhook

Blizz is toast now, big bad wowhead posted about it

Glad it's getting some attention

[peak charm]

@bright swift pm

[thorn plover]

They didn't even mention LifebloomAlert breaking. Smh

[idle lake]

https://tenor.com/view/son-giftok-tom-tucker-family-guy-im-crine-gif-47048448267690577

[soft dagger]

Working fine for me, even the sound alert is there

[idle lake]

doesnt blizzard have a sound warning built in

to cooldownmanager

[supple seal]

Yeh I use a cat sound when lifebloom drops off

[normal jetty]

when you cata a piece for tier set, does it matter what the starting piece is? Like will all boots cata to the same tier boots? Or will the stats vary based on the original stats

[supple seal]

Part of in game cdm

[idle lake]

does it only woek when it ends or can you set it to pandemic

[thorn plover]

It all works fine if you don't use tts

Blizz pandemic no worky

Still

[idle lake]

sadge

[thorn plover]

It's only been 6 months give them a break

[supple seal]

Yeh I tried pandemic but it’s busted.

And it’s annoying because if you move lb then it acts as if it fell off

But at least it works in some capacity

[thorn plover]

Cata pieces are predetermined, what you put in doesn't matter

[night sorrel]

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