resto

[glad marten]

sweet ty

[gentle nova]

Explain how do you think its a nerf

[thorn plover]

It was also never 60%

[spark river]

No because you will move the embellishment

[thorn plover]

But people don't read their talents

[spark river]

To other piece

[grizzled seal]

Druid is the most overpowered spec in the game and people are still whining

Incredible

[cunning atlas]

Ok, I'm dumb. I read the changelist as if that was the last change from live, rather than the change from the previous iteration of the patch update

[torn thunder]

Also you got 4 weeks to change embellishment and/or coin a myth track weapon

[quartz maple]

Can't, can you? It's a weapon only embellish

[spark river]

2x arcanoweave

you re not playing hunt if you change

[thorn plover]

Tbf blizz did us dirty on the notes. But it's important to know how your talents work

[calm dirge]

It's always funny to see people complain when playing a very overpowered spec

[idle lake]

druid is WEAK

[spark river]

I like the new animation of everbloom

I think its neat

[cunning atlas]

I know (knew) how it functioned, just not the numbers

[idle lake]

if my team all get hit by dodgesble mechanics at once i cant instantly put them to full hp

[gentle nova]

Very overpowered in what content

[quartz maple]

I know I have time to get it - trying to understand if it will actually be better

[torn thunder]

Can’t have arcanoweave on your third craft though?!?? You can’t mean to loose your +1 sparkle?!?

[idle lake]

= we suck

[calm dirge]

i have an idea! let's gaslight blizzard into thinking resto is the worst healer spec

that way we can get omega op

[idle lake]

we should close the resto druid channel

[dense lantern]

someone gaslit blizzard into thinking owl was low dps

[thorn plover]

It's pretty.
Pretty excessive

[idle lake]

have a baby tantrum like the paladins did

[calm dirge]

indeed

[wind night]

cells is broken, whats the next go to ui addon?

grid?

[spark river]

Idk, looks pretty cool on my screen and I can still see everything important

[gentle nova]

You dont really need to gaslight, most druids just do it naturally

[calm dirge]

there's quiet a few. personally i just use standard, but you can go for danders, grid2, vuhdo etc

[gentle nova]

It shows on everyones screen too lmao

But yeah i like it

[spark river]

Thats not what I meant

But yes

[idle lake]

it thinks im wearing my pvp gear..?

can i do it from raider io

[merry nexus]

ST still cat to burn HotW?

[wind night]

hmm will give danders a try

[spark river]

Yeah use cat hotw on cd

[dense lantern]

you can manually edit the item ids if you have a lot of spare time

[merry nexus]

ty

[calm dirge]

i always just use hotw on cd no matter the form tbh

[idle lake]

i mean I do but i dont know the item ids im looking for so

[maiden sedge]

Yeah best way I found is going to one of your previous logged fights and hopefully take that gear instead. Seems most up to date. Go to a logged fight -> click yourself and click -> summary. Then you scroll and can see the same export to simc option

[sudden rover]

i just did a small 10 to test boomy damage, and I gotta say it looks super bad. im going back to cat i think

anyone feel the same?

[torn thunder]

Wait no matter the form?! So you just fire off the best 30% health sometimes? xD

[thorn plover]

I think you're doing it very wrong if that's the case

[idle lake]

thank you beast

[sudden rover]

i mean it's 4 abilities how can one do it wrong

[calm dirge]

I'm never really in bear form so yes

[sudden rover]

moonfire sunfire then wrath spam

and ss on cd

[thorn plover]

Well that's wrong

[blazing loom]

u dont sunfire

[maiden sedge]

Nps bud - hopefully u got a recently logged 🙂

[charred shuttle]

why?

[blazing loom]

its bad

[grizzled seal]

Worse dmg than Starfire

[thorn plover]

#resto message

DPS guide updated

[idle lake]

yeah i log everything

[torn thunder]

Only worth it if you have to move

[grizzled seal]

You Sunfire on the move

[charred shuttle]

okay crazy

[limber latch]

I got a bit confused reading it though, does that mean we are both owlweaving and catweaving depending on the situation? Are we doing both at the same time?
(looking at the wowhead build) it takes HotW with moonkin talents, but face only lists HotW in cat form (so this applies even if we have owl talents?) We only hotw as a cat, always, then?
Also, wowhead build doesn't take Fluid Form, that's what confuses me the most I guess

[sudden rover]

but wrath spam is horrible

[boreal karma]

is it confirmed 2 every week?

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[fervent mica]

yeah

[thorn plover]

You never go owl form. You send hotw in cat form always. That's it, don't over think it

[boreal karma]

thats crazy

[grizzled seal]

Why?

[boreal karma]

so easy to get gear

[marsh prism]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-baby-bear-bear-cub-cub-worried-bear-gif-3871404305283279898

[grizzled seal]

You are capped on crests anyway

[calm dirge]

i really hate capped crest

[pearl oyster]

I saw someone with an icon on their screen that showed how many stacks of Abundance they have along with now many seconds is left on their shortest rejuv. Anyone know how they achieved that with the UI restrictions?

[glad marten]

Hey guys, because we get 3% increased healing in cat form should i be constantly weaving in raid? as we now play wildstalker

[thorn plover]

HoTTracker

[dense lantern]

if you open the items from raider.io they should link to a wowhead page

[thorn plover]

No

[idle lake]

nvm its not working :/

[dense lantern]

with the id in the url

[idle lake]

the string looks different

[pearl oyster]

Thanks

[idle lake]

and qelive isnt adding the items

oh well

[dawn ridge]

sorry if it's been asked a million times but is mana food just not getting mana back or am i trippin

[torn thunder]

That’s a surefire way to a grey parse xD

[wind night]

good shout, danders is kinda clean and you dont have to custumize it

[idle lake]

whats danders

[tawny laurel]

Should I use reroll for heroic chimaerus if I don't have gaze?

[calm dirge]

i kinda hate danders tbh

[wind night]

for like 2 minutes invested in settings its good tho

[thorn plover]

Danders is awesome

Really don't get the hate

[calm dirge]

I just don't like how it looks

[scarlet epoch]

Danders is great for the dispel overlay alone already

[calm dirge]

If standard works perfect for me then I have no reason in wasting time on Danders

[torn thunder]

Anything is better than having to deal with vuhdo setup menu again xD

[thorn plover]

You can make it look however you like lol

[dense lantern]

shadow quality?

even that didnt work

[marsh prism]

yeah that's what they said

@sharp meadow can you help my boy

[calm dirge]

My point still stands though. I don't really have any reason to track extra useless stuff

[marsh prism]

I just walked away from my computer or I would ask

[calm dirge]

I can already see bleeds, debuffs and hots easily

[marsh prism]

no you can't

on default? it's broken

[balmy basin]

Restrictions got lifted for some player HoTs and Healing buffs. So you can directly read them via API instead of just displaying the container

[haughty ibex]

with blizzard frames? uhm

[thorn plover]

Ok but that's not a reason to dislike danders lol. You could say the same for literally any raid frame addon

[calm dirge]

Yes. I have no problems with seeing stuff like that

[fervent drift]

so 2x arcanoweave +289 weapon > 285 hunt + 1x arcanoweave?

[torn thunder]

Unless they changed standard frames it was borderline impossible to see debuffs in raid the first 2 weeks xD

[quartz maple]

Quick interpretation thing - how much is -202 HPS from QElive as a percentage? Is that against the 100K hps we do?

[idle lake]

u can see everything u need to on blizz frames

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[marsh prism]

I wish this was true

[thorn plover]

It says .13 Right beside it

[marsh prism]

they said it would be

[idle lake]

it feels true

[calm dirge]

I mean I have used it since Midnight launch. I haven't encountered any problems with it

[idle lake]

i havent enountered anything wrong

[thorn plover]

You're missing a lot

But you do you

[idle lake]

like?

[quartz maple]

lol - old, selective eyes. So it's basing it on 155K hps. Thank you.

[calm dirge]

I fail to see what's missing

[torn thunder]

Can you see bleeds on default?

[thorn plover]

Because youve never seen it

[calm dirge]

yes

[idle lake]

yes

[fervent mica]

you can

[fervent drift]

thx

[idle lake]

but what am I missing

[spark river]

I am playing default ui and i support this message

[elfin dust]

Hello, two questions about Lightblinded Vanguard, which we started just last raid night. I'm assigned to be a heal absorb and expected to handle them along with a monk, hpal, and another rdruid.

1. Am I supposed to just mainly heal myself (regrowth spam)?
2. At least before 12.0.5, was it better to run Tree spec for this role instead of Convoke?

The other rdruid's regrowths hit for double mine, avg 31k vs my 19k. He has bis trinkets and I don't but I had reforestation the entire time. I was spreading out my heals and he focused on himself. Is that why maybe?
wcl link

[calm dirge]

But sure you can argue that it can be a bit annoying not knowing how long time there's left of a hot, but i assume you probably can get an addon for that

[idle lake]

you can see the hot ticking down

[torn thunder]

You luckily don’t have to get an addon you don’t want ^^ I enjoy having danders frames installed

[idle lake]

what is danders compared to grid2 and other ones

[torn thunder]

Party and raid frames? I never tried grid so haven’t the foggiest

Cell wasn’t updated when I wanted an addon to danders had to do ^^

[thorn plover]

Functionally they're all the same

[idle lake]

can someone tell me what vital information is missing from default blizz frames 💔

[torn thunder]

“But my fav streamers uses X so they are better”

[idle lake]

[amber apex]

I thought we don’t swap to owl form for dmg or am I reading the updated dmg guide wrong

[torn thunder]

XD

[sharp meadow]

thats a different visual issue from what eleman had, need to test in another game and see if it has a similar issue

[thorn plover]

We dont

[amber apex]

So the guide is wrong or just not worth to swap

[thorn plover]

@tough portal can you clarify in your guide about moonkin form ♥️

[thorn plover]

Guide isn't wrong just needs words. You don't take fluid form and you don't swap to boomkin. It's a big haste loss due to lycaras

[red spruce]

I got the trinket but it's veteran level 3/6.
Is it worth getting as veteran regardless? or should I go for a mythic item (neck/boots/hands)

[snow umbra]

What's fastest way to complete the Elemental Voidcore thing this week? Delves/M+/Raid?

[amber apex]

Can I cast starsurge in normal form ?

[thorn plover]

Lfr

[idle lake]

isnt cat form a haste loss too

[fervent mica]

no where in it does it say to go owl

[thorn plover]

Yes

[thorn plover]

Ya we don't go cat, what are you asking

[fervent mica]

t1 bountiful delves

[prime oyster]

Only cat when hotw

[amber apex]

Ah didn’t know that tbh

[elfin dust]

right now raidfinder imo, while everyone is running it

[snow umbra]

Nice one ty. Didn't realise LFR dropped it

[fervent mica]

you can do 3 delves before they finish trash in lfr

[idle lake]

im talking about m+

sorry

[thorn plover]

You don't cat in m+ either

[tawny laurel]

So we dps in human form?

[elfin dust]

bunch of ppl (myself included) are bugged in delves right now, can't strafe and it sticks after the delve

[thorn plover]

Yes

[dense lantern]

No I don't, this happens only in wow and only from this patch

[elfin dust]

really weird bug

[idle lake]

i mean before this patch

[dense lantern]

shits fucked

[thorn plover]

Yes but cat was the only way to do damage before, we didn't have a choice. Now we do? Idk what you're asking tbh

[mortal leaf]

Hi guys, does anybody know why details and wclogs are so different for me as restoration healer in comparsion to other healers? (chimaerus mythic?

[thorn plover]

Details counts absorbs twice

[smoky sail]

absorbs

[mortal leaf]

Ah damn

Thank you

[elfin dust]

ohh interesting

[idle lake]

i was askinf why does the shifting suddenly make a difference if thats what we have been doing for however many expansions

[brisk vigil]

is there any major changes in rotation in raid healing? its worth to self lb or not anymore? I cant find any rotation changes in the written guides

[idle lake]

like surely going into owl form is the same hps loss as it always was

[fervent mica]

its not worth the gcd.

when damage is basically the same

and not worth specing fluid for the same reason

[balmy basin]

I mean you can use fluid form?

[idle lake]

I see

[thorn plover]

Self lb in raid, nothing else changes

[idle lake]

that makes sende

[brisk vigil]

thank you

[idle lake]

plunder the whole bloody tavern

[rustic flicker]

you have to log to another character to fix it

[fervent mica]

wasted point

[pulsar umbra]

try logging to a different character, solved it for me earlier today

[fervent mica]

you don't gain anything, so you can spend that point in something that is useful

[brisk vigil]

I usually used swiftmend on myself to not recast lb when we didnt use apex on raid. This is wrong now right?

[idle lake]

what does moonkin form actually do besides extra armoir

[pulsar umbra]

10% extra spell damage

[thorn plover]

No you still do this

[arctic dock]

idk if worth takign weapon? m+ player

Not terrible stats, crit in m+ isnt horrible butttt idk
Int outweight the mediocre stats?

eveytything else is horrible and alrdy had to take 1 socket

[brisk vigil]

oh I thought lb didnt bloom if you do no let it expire

[soft dagger]

How is your healing in M+? Any big improvement?

[thorn plover]

The refreshment blooms are a very tiny portion of your blooms. Better to save the gcds by extending

[sharp meadow]

all u can really do is disable all addons, test without, if it disappears slowly enable until you find which 1 it is. If it still happening without addons trial and error each graphic setting and see if that fixes it.

[grizzled seal]

This shit is getting nerfed

Get rating while you are op

[elfin dust]

Yeah logging out and back in again fixed it. It was just annoying to play thru a delve to get my voidcore thing 😛

[brisk vigil]

makes sense thank you!

[pulsar umbra]

interesting, just logging out and back in didn't work for me, i literally had to swap characters. truly great patch today

[dense lantern]

yeah, figured

unforch

ty anyways

[errant nest]

does refreshing lifebloom thru swiftmend cancels the "last bloom" effect from hero talent? Should i just let it expire ?

[torn thunder]

The difference is you can cast the dps spells in normal form while you cannot do cat abilities in normal form. So if your best dps abilities is feral you have to be in catform while owl form gives you mastery and you don’t need it to dps with caster spells

[idle lake]

all blooms count

including the pandemic one

[errant nest]

even the ones from consuming soul of the forest are healing 6 targets now?

[idle lake]

pretty sure

[edgy oxide]

Oui

[idle lake]

making lifebloom bloom

is like

triggering the final bloom effect early

[errant nest]

I see

[bright swift]

6 times 3 yes

[errant nest]

and it is times 3 if you have harmonious blooming, correct?

[bright swift]

and every photo proc too

[bright swift]

no that's not related

[errant nest]

crazy

side note

is it me or the new bloom effect is a bit too much?

my screen is flashing in keys xD

[spark river]

no

[whole horizon]

since the issues this expac has introduced ive been playing on min settings

[spark river]

its beautiful

and i will not hear any slander

[whole horizon]

all i see is the vine burst effect and its just a ground thing. you could turn your particles down.

[errant nest]

cool!

I have another question

I've seen a lot of damage coming from thrash. I'm currently using this macro for easy shape shift but it is still 2 globals. #showtooltip Thrash
/cast [noform:1] Bear Form
/cast Thrash

[bright swift]

you don't cast thrash anymore

[errant nest]

Is there a way to shif trash in a single global ?

[bright swift]

cast starfire

[edgy oxide]

I will +1 on the new visual effect. Nice to have a visual que and not just the audio 👍

[spark river]

there isnt a way and

[empty heath]

As someone who uses a lifebloom audio alert this patch has been brutal. They completely shot the audio assist feature.

[spark river]

you dont use it anymore

Starfire is just more damage now

[errant nest]

damn

more casts xD

so we are using circle of heavens now?

[idle lake]

thrash isnt good anymore but you could do something like
/cast [no form] mangle
/cast [form 1] thrash

idk the exact wording

[undone basalt]

is it worth going to moonkin form when casting starsuge and starfire ? or is it viable to stay in human form?

[idle lake]

never moonkin form

[errant nest]

Thanks!

[mystic pasture]

You don’t want to go into Moonkin form

[bright swift]

what now

oh

yea

[hushed crescent]

hello, after the patch are we going tu use the wildstalker even in raid?

[undone basalt]

oh okay. i just thought you'd do more dmg in MK form. Thanks!!

[torn thunder]

Checked wowhead talents ?

[drowsy isle]

You lose haste

[oak garnet]

I think you'll see both

[opaque frost]

@hushed crescent yeah it cranks imo

[undone basalt]

ah gotcha

[sudden rover]

but u gain 10% spell damage

surely it's better to go owl?

[oak garnet]

I think keeper still has potential

[hushed crescent]

so without incarnation ? are we using convoke like in m+?

[grizzled seal]

There is a 4% spell dmg in caster form talent

You only gain 6%

[opaque frost]

@hushed crescent yep

[sudden rover]

even that, i mean 6% damage is > than 6% haste surely

[grizzled seal]

No

[bright swift]

huh

[sudden rover]

for real? damn

[errant nest]

just did. Thanks. I was checking Archon. Guess they are outdated still.

[bright swift]

which

[opaque frost]

Haste means less cancelled casts

[grizzled seal]

It's 6% multiplicative haste

[opaque frost]

Which means more damage

[grizzled seal]

Lycara little one

[bright swift]

oh

[grizzled seal]

Shift into cat then into caster

[bright swift]

i never even took that talent

[grizzled seal]

You will see haste change

[undone basalt]

i take it theres, other than dropping ursine vigor no way to take innervate with the new talents

[bright swift]

[scenic magnet]

wait has it always been this way? That's insane wtf

[marble thicket]

guys is it better to use it at the start of the combat when player have CD and do high damage to get higher shiled ? or when heal is needed ?

[grizzled seal]

Lycara gives more than 8% in rating equivalent to me in my gear

[scenic magnet]

I always thought it was flat im dum

[oak garnet]

I was trying doc in some middle of the road keys, it feels good during elder but once elder over people higher chance of flopping

Not a huge doc fan for anything serious

[scenic magnet]

Yeah it gives me 7.9% haste

wild

[grizzled seal]

All haste % are always multiplicative otherwise they don't make sense semantically

[torn thunder]

Archon is based on recorded runs, so not outdated just not reached enough new runs yet

[rain grove]

The new apex talent says 50% of lifeblooms final bloom heals allies, but it seems to proc on every bloom not just the final one? Or I'm misunderstanding something

[grizzled seal]

Final bloom means large bloom, not ticks

So yes it should proc on those

They just have idiotic naming and tooltips

[idle lake]

every bloom is the final bloom

anything that mentions lifebloom blooming is just a premature trigger of the final bloom

[rain grove]

Oh ok

[grizzled seal]

Photo procs, apex 4 procs all of those work

[whole horizon]

they added Symb Blooms in TWW and now they're compelled to elaborate anytime the word bloom is used

[idle lake]

they should word everything like a magic card

0 room for error

[spare sand]

guys is the npx staff bis for us or the skyreach one?

[grizzled seal]

Isn't skyreach haste crit

[spare sand]

haste mastery

[grizzled seal]

I don't remember that one

[torn thunder]

Which ever one you get

[undone basalt]

is it ever worth casting wrath? or should i just be always using starfire

[willow furnace]

i mean npx u got chest, staff, ring and preety good boots to get from bonus roll if ur talking about bonus rolls

[spare sand]

we ve got rolls now

[idle lake]

windrunner spire has bigger upgrades but fewer of them, nexus point has more upgrades, which one do i bonus roll for?

[grizzled seal]

You will never roll skyreach

That's trolling

You bonus roll for your "bis" items

[spare sand]

yeah

[grizzled seal]

You don't bonus roll for more upgrades

[spare sand]

thats why im wondering if the skyreach staff is biss

[idle lake]

bis in quotes

[spare sand]

since its haste mastery

and npx is mastery haste

[idle lake]

those who know

[grizzled seal]

Ok but if the difference is like +30 haste -30 mastery then nobody cares

[oak garnet]

Bis is different from person to person

If you don't mythic raid it's different than if you do

[scenic magnet]

NPX gives ring / chest / weapon and decent feet

[grizzled seal]

As Sun Tzu once said bis is state of mind

[scenic magnet]

On a small loot pool

[plain steeple]

Best in Sun

[whole horizon]

on my way to read The Art of War so i can fill out my droptimizer

https://tenor.com/view/ододододо-додододо-одо-ододо-одододо-gif-7087820000862840302

[grizzled seal]

Do you want an actual helpful article

[oak garnet]

I have a disgusting cringe champion trinket so you better believe I sent it on WRS as guardian

[spare sand]

https://tenor.com/view/yoshinobu-that-old-guy-from-jjk-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-old-chinese-man-guitar-gif-12601317484797305309

[grizzled seal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest

[whole horizon]

based

[grizzled seal]

If you understood principles in this article you know what to coin

[lusty crow]

guys, why don't we take HB now?

[boreal karma]

we dont have points

[torn thunder]

Sure but you are asking about if I want ice cream or ice cream? Is the rest of the loot you can roll in nexus better then roll nexus?

[boreal karma]

its not a bad talent just no points for it

[grizzled seal]

It's like 2% talent

[boreal karma]

actually thats bad or

XD

[grizzled seal]

I think it's quite bad for the position

[scenic magnet]

HB loses value if you're maintaining all hots on same target right

[grizzled seal]

If it was in the middle tier then it'd be good

[scenic magnet]

So now it's weak w/ Photo

[lusty crow]

oh i see

[stray charm]

why we speccing into Starlight Conduit in raid build?

seems kinda waisted no?

[oak garnet]

I'm convinced the reason why people doing the highest keys take it is tanks are squishier than before and they overvalue even the marginal single target benefit from HB. For the vast majority of people there are higher value talents (NB ND etc). Altho I think the consensus is that you can throw darts at those different talents and I won't change how you play

[lusty crow]

so we don't want to swap LB for prio healing without HB, right?

[deft oar]

did they break weakauras, my lifebloom pandemic weakaura doesnt work anymore

[idle lake]

did they break weakauras

https://tenor.com/view/internet-explorer-gif-24879124

[oak garnet]

In M+ I swap my blooms to triage some, but try to keep it on tank as much as I can since I play VI and I'm extending as many hots as I can

[deft oar]

no

with the new patch

lol

[torn thunder]

There’s not weakaura in midnight? You used meekaura?

[deft oar]

its the same thing

[main timber]

When asking stuff like this id encourage you to try and find a place for the point first

[errant nest]

Sorry for asking too much but, Do we go on moonking form to use heart of the wild o is it only use in cat for single target damage?

[main timber]

Yes it's low value. No there is nowhere to put it

[naive chasm]

I am enjoying having a new damage rotation even if its meant some keybind adjustments

[fair shadow]

Harmonious bloom is not as good as it sounds?

[charred shuttle]

anyway "embrace the dream" is better than "master shapeshifter" if i dont need the mana reg?
or is it about the dmg buff of master shapeshifter?

[idle lake]

they should make moonkin form baseline and replace it in the tree with eclipse

[naive chasm]

Mastery has diminishing returns with hot stacks which kicks in quickly

That is why HB is meh

[thick summit]

okay but blizzard pls fix tts i miss my microsoft lady yelling at me

[plain steeple]

Embrace is a talent you pick in raid.
The dmg there is completely irrelevant.
Bo idea if the question is about raid or M+.

[naive chasm]

If you only put lifebloom on targets without other hots it would be ok but that isnt the reality

[charred shuttle]

in m+?

[plain steeple]

Embrace is not a talent you would ever pick in M+

[charred shuttle]

okay ty ty

[plain steeple]

So you would decide between Ms or liveliness.
And with the changes liveliness barely adds any damage.
MS does add damage.

[fair shadow]

Ah ok thank you

[naive chasm]

How much does liveliness add to healing, 5% faster hots?

[spark river]

It was 2% dont know if that changed

[naive chasm]

I guess if you feel you need more healing and dont have time for dps you can pivot to that?

[idle lake]

call of the elder druid worth somehow?

[oak garnet]

If you want to slam it In Weekly 10s yes

[worn marsh]

Does bonus roll give 1st item in the dungeon loot table? I have seen several people reporting they get 1st then 2nd item in the loot XD

[spark river]

no

I can confirm that is fake

[worn marsh]

okay perfect, cus they have in total spent 3 bonus rolls and gotten the items down the list would suck cus gaze is last item

[oak garnet]

Can also confirm that. What im unsure of is the key level being a separate loot table. I hope to God that is a bug or untrue

[spark river]

i ve spent 3 coins and got 3 random items

all 3 were equally shit

[naive chasm]

I dont even know what I would target

[idle lake]

do I do my bonus rolls before taking my vault reward?

[naive chasm]

If it would affect what you would pick then sure

[strange oriole]

Hey i have in my Vault the HC Neck from Lura and a mythic Head. What do you think is the better choice? QE says take the neck.

[oak garnet]

Same and all were different but Ive heard each key is a different bonus roll table like +12 will have dif than +13. I just assumed as long as it was 10 or higher it was same loot table for bonus roll

[worn marsh]

and i was dumb and chose myth chest today that I have converted, I am scared to get a duplicate on Chimaera tmrw mythic

[idle lake]

it would but thats assuming i spam windrunner spire

[naive chasm]

Love WS

[idle lake]

windrunner has bigger upgrades and 3 of them

nexus point has worse upgrades but 4

so im unsure which to spam

[spark river]

how does nexus point have worse upgrades lol

[naive chasm]

I dont know if its worth targeting a myth weapon if I already have crafted myth weapon

I assume they mean worse upgrades based on what myth gear they already have

Rather than in a vacuum

[idle lake]

nexus point average upgrade is 0.38% windrunner is 0.39%

[tidal sigil]

Can platynator show mob ability cd's? Saw a streamer have something that looked like it, but not sure what addon

[idle lake]

basically heart of wind would be insane to get

[spark river]

yeah but you have more items in ws

[idle lake]

oh yeah

1/2 chance for an upgrade vs 1/3'

[spark river]

nexus was 3/7 for me

and i missed on all of them

with 3 rolls

[idle lake]

ouch

how expensive is it to recraft?

i just realised my belt has the wrong stats on

[grizzled seal]

Recrafts are bugged rn

Don't do it

[idle lake]

i see

[thorn plover]

What isn't bugged rn

[spark river]

why does everything in midnight break

[thorn plover]

List would be shorter

[idle lake]

anythjng not bugged rn? xd

[round hull]

Do yall think it's bad to run gaze, and ribbon together?

[grizzled seal]

It's an old bug, this patch just didn't merge the fix they implemented earlier lol

[thorn plover]

They should be very embarrassed by this patch

[thorn plover]

Give us your thoughts on this

[idle lake]

they added prop hunt

new technology bound to break

[thorn plover]

Prop hunt let's you move while casting in raid

[round hull]

I just don't know if losing the flat int woul dbe bad

[grizzled seal]

It is bugged too

You can zone into the raid as a prop and cast while moving

[idle lake]

i swear that aint me

[errant tulip]

Is there anyway to go back into Proc'd ToF after using Stampeding Roar?

[thorn plover]

No

[errant tulip]

fack

[grizzled seal]

If you are specced into convoke then no

[errant tulip]

ok ty

[pulsar kettle]

prop hunt also calls you an afker if you're too good at hiding

[idle lake]

W game

[livid trellis]

At what point does a lower tier trinket become worth using over an s tier but lower track one? I have Gaze of the Alnseer on myth track, but some hero track delve garbo.

[spare sand]

1st bonus roll

f

[grizzled seal]

What the fuck is that

[naive chasm]

This was staring at me in the vault this week also

[spare sand]

its trin from npx

[bright swift]

brother

[clever maple]

balance loot table does not have it right?

[lyric epoch]

duskwraith 🤮

[bright swift]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[grizzled seal]

...

[bright swift]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[grizzled seal]

Why the fuck are you coining in resto loot spec

[tired gale]

https://tenor.com/view/vegito-vegito-gansta-vegito-suit-drip-vegito-bait-used-to-be-believable-gif-315651423676567245

[spare sand]

xD

at least now its off the table

[plain steeple]

I would also bonus roll as feral, when I need a caster weapon.

[spare sand]

right

xD

[eternal bough]

guys any changes on talents ? after class tuning ?

[plain steeple]

Just to make sure I get the wrong items.

[thorn plover]

Haha no it's not

[grizzled seal]

If only druid had two caster specs

[plain steeple]

Guides are up to date.

[spare sand]

wdym

[eternal bough]

wowhead ?

[plain steeple]

Yeah

[spark river]

Yes

[thorn plover]

Re rolls are bugged rn and nothing comes off the loot table

[grizzled seal]

Coins are bugged

[spare sand]

bruh

[spark river]

Cant wait to coin next week and get the same items and lose my shit

[plain steeple]

No.

[round hull]

Did they say they will give you your coins back since they were all bugged?

[thorn plover]

Huge value in watching wowhead posts for this shit

[plain steeple]

You can let your teammates die like Dorki.

[thorn plover]

New to wow?

[spare sand]

well

[grizzled seal]

They won't give back shit

[spare sand]

good thing coins are weekly

not once a season

[plain steeple]

Never use a new game mechanic on patch day.

[deft oar]

is this the right raid build moving forward?

[grizzled seal]

Don't play the game on patch days

You are late with this one

[hushed sand]

For raid, do we take Bond with Nature or HC? I remember seeing some discussion yesterday about that needing to be updated on wowhead.

[thorn plover]

I'd drop livliness for embrace there but ya

[hazy cliff]

are there any changes to the recommended raid build that might be good for mythic paladins prog or am i probably ok to take it as is for the time being?

[bright swift]

MS or Embrace

never liveliness

[thorn plover]

Somehow feels like mana is even less of a thing this week, even tho we technically have less of it.

[bright swift]

What changed what

[deft oar]

should i drop a point in forestwalk for hotw if i play MS?

[grizzled seal]

Huh

[hushed sand]

I feel like this build was pumping last night. Was weird to be waiting on SM and WG, but otherwise was a considerable increase in HPS for me.

[thorn plover]

Nothing changed except we lost 5% mana, but it sure feels unlimited lol

[bright swift]

you should drop ursine

you never go bear form

[thorn plover]

I was giving away my innervates last night. I nicknamed myself torty on details

[plain steeple]

0.8% on a 10min fight you mean.

[thorn plover]

Huh

[plain steeple]

Never.

[thorn plover]

Just take the wowhead build

[supple solstice]

did everbloom get fixed?

[mystic lichen]

We playing moonkin over cat form in m+ now?:d

[spark river]

get fixed how

[spare sand]

going for 2 roll npx

now with balance loot

xD

[tulip nexus]

did they fix the rolls?

[plain steeple]

No

[blazing gate]

The top druids are talenting rip, rake and as well starfire and sunfire

[pulsar kettle]

[pulsar kettle]

we're generally using caster spells and still using hotw in cat form + a rip for prio targets every 2min

boomie form is a damage loss afaik, just dont talent fluid form if you path through moonkin to get sunfire.

[thorn plover]

Caster spells, no moonkin form.

[thorn whale]

I feel like

u still play cat

[spark river]

You play cat in st

Boomkin doesnt have enough st damage still compared to cat

[crude nebula]

is this patch fixing the core bug

do we know

[pulsar kettle]

nobody knows

might just be housing

they have alot to fix right now.

[thorn plover]

🤨

[ocean fjord]

heck, they broke vendor food... it only gives 6% over 20s, vs 6%/s

[spark river]

Im listening

[thorn plover]

Actually or just tooltip

[ocean fjord]

actually

In raid last night I tried it out and noticed that I wasn't getting mana back when I looked

[thorn plover]

Id put money on wrath starsurge spam doing more than cat

With hotw cat

[ocean fjord]

(I'm a degenerate raider w/o a mage)

[thorn plover]

Get follower dungeon food every time you log in

[grizzled seal]

General consensus on talents will be released at the same time they will sign peace in the Middle East

[thorn plover]

I believe it

[spark river]

Played a couple of dungeons and im not getting that vibe

[thorn whale]

I just dont see that u have the time to wrath spam

compared to how easy it is to do high ST damage as cat

[plain steeple]

We don’t have a general consensus for wow classic 2005 talents yet.

See you in 20 years for Midnight discussions.

[thorn plover]

There's fights where cat would be ahead just because of this, I'll agree with that.

So many bosses you don't have to heal tho

[spare epoch]

Is there a good grid2 profile for resto druid out there that is not behind a paywall?

[thorn plover]

Wowhead/QE

[mental dew]

they best fix this bonus roll issue with the maintenance they're doing right now

!!

[boreal karma]

@gentle nova i found 2 logs of seat 19

one pre buff one after buf f

[thorn whale]

Send

i wanna see druid dps

[spare epoch]

where at QE?

[boreal karma]

ofc its not compareable but the everbloom difference is only 3%

[thorn plover]

Not sure but it will be the same one as wowhead

[prime jacinth]

I did 50k dps in a trash pull in maisara 12 last night spamming starfire

[spark river]

vick said everbloom diff hps wise was 2% in his keys

[prime jacinth]

Something is definately broken

[spark river]

so maybe we survive?

[thorn whale]

Yeah but this is irrelevant damage

[thorn plover]

Yeah keys stayed pretty flat

[muted hare]

new potential resto druid here - going through the wowhead guide and I came across this: - specifically for the 12.0.5 patch - does any1 have a link to the caster dps rotation? Or do I just go to the balance druid guide and look at that?

I've never been fond of catweaving - so just looking for some insight - thank you!

[boreal karma]

i swear we are not getting nerfed

[thorn plover]

10%

[boreal karma]

its not broken

[spark river]

we jumped a lot in raid

[thorn plover]

#resto message

[spark river]

but i hope its fine

this is too much fun

[boreal karma]

we are no where to be top on every boss

so its unlikely we get nerfed

we can be top but its not by a gap

[main timber]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/user-interface/

[thorn plover]

We gap hard on certain bosses, but not all

[spare epoch]

thanks a lot ❤️

[main timber]

Yeah but one is by far the most important boss of the tier

[spare epoch]

i am literally blind to fiond it otherwise xD

[boreal karma]

ye i dont think its crazy

[main timber]

I agree there is a chance we dodge nerfs

[thorn plover]

This is true

[muted hare]

thank you!

[boreal karma]

i mean the m+ buff is like 3% increase

and raid our overall performance aint crazy overperforming

[shut barn]

@thorn plover hey mate, any tips on how to get lifebloomalert to blast my earrdrums pls?

[main timber]

Don't think M+ is too much of a concern for the buff

[thorn plover]

I see us catching a small aura nerf

[main timber]

Also tuning this late in the season slows down a lot

[boreal karma]

but do you think our raid performance is so much better that we get nerfed?

[thorn plover]

Can't, blizz broke all TTS sounds. Use a regular sound instead of TTS for now

[boreal karma]

yeah i dont think we get nerfs til 0.7 or?

[main timber]

If a spec only needs -2-3% then will they even care to do that?

[boreal karma]

exactly

[shut barn]

ite cheers

[boreal karma]

i dont think we get nerfed

i believe we are perfectly balanced

[main timber]

Pres was much further ahead in Manaforge, great on the last boss, and never got touched

[shut barn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/thanos-balance-1--k01KPTSCQ2FTCGRW9HS9H7QRPB5

[boreal karma]

man thinking about fyrakk back then

[main timber]

RWF is over, if Druid is good then let druid be good

[boreal karma]

how broken mw was

didnt get touched

[main timber]

If we end up 10%+ ahead then maybe we will get tapped

[boreal karma]

i think we are fine

[main timber]

The only thing is, our log average is fine right now but there are a few outliers that are massively ahead lmao

[boreal karma]

eu hasnt raided yet

[shut barn]

rycn pls

[boreal karma]

we get a lot more data today

[main timber]

I think we let the data settle and then work out if we might get nerfed

[thorn plover]

The spec got easier to play which would bring the average log up more than the top logs, no?

[main timber]

hypothetically, but LIfebloom has been a tough one for people

Which you know well

[thorn plover]

True

Lol

[main timber]

Since you made an addon for it

[thorn plover]

Made my whole 6$ off curseforge from people not pressing lifebloom

[solid violet]

@grizzled seal Mr Torty Sir, new builds done already?

[main timber]

Guides always update on patch day

[boreal karma]

yeah lifebloom uptime average is 50% prolly

[thorn plover]

42%

[gleaming jay]

halla halla, is catweaving out - spells in?

for dps after patch

[thorn plover]

Huge patch of people sub 10%, lots around 50%, then nothing in-between 50% and 98% really

[boreal karma]

lmao

[sudden rover]

nop

[main timber]

Checked the rank 1 last night

[sudden rover]

catweaving still the way to go, for me

[main timber]

100% lifebloom uptime

[thorn plover]

Almost like that spell is important

[gleaming jay]

damn i was hoping a bit thb

[thorn plover]

He's trolling, it is caster on top unfortunately

[thorn plover]

#resto message

[main timber]

Also this https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/12.0.5

[fervent osprey]

Master Shapeshifter or embrace the dream in raid, what is the best in your opinion?<

[thorn plover]

I'll push a fix for LB TTS volume shortly, but it's only a temporary work around and you can't change what it says anymore

[gleaming jay]

Ty my guys, great sources ❤️

[thorn plover]

Embrace if you don't have mana issues

[vast rapids]

I joined a mythic PUG chim and everbloom is topping the logs by quite a bit

[fervent osprey]

Yeah, i got Source of magic, i will go embrace

[thorn plover]

Face has the math posted, I'll find it and link, sec

[main timber]

I didn't do any math on WS vs Keeper in M+. Face had it 8-9% behind or something

[thorn plover]

#resto message

[gleaming jay]

Follow-up q: Am I supposed to go in boomie form for firing wrath etc? Or should/can I just stay in no form and blast

[main timber]

The FAQ I listed talks about that

[gleaming jay]

We will take Moonkin Form for pathing, but won't really use it for DPS. It's a minor (3.5%) DPS gain, but costs us either a GCD or a tier 3 class talent (to take

Gotcha ❤️

[main timber]

Yeah, now there is some advanced tech that might use Fluid Form a bit more

But I don't think you need to worry about it right now

[tulip nexus]

i tried a key with fluid form and just kept wild charging backwards with the boomie version

[thorn plover]

Lmao

[main timber]

I dont know what I'd use this for

The way it values items is very dodgy

[vast rapids]

any fix for lifebloom alert TTS reminder volume

can barely hear it

[thorn plover]

It's all blizzard tts sounds, not an add-on problem. However I'm pushing a temporary fix soon

Use a regular sound not TTS for the time being

[vast rapids]

Thank you!

[thorn plover]

Ok so I'm not crazy. Deleting

[main timber]

Reminds me of when someone asked Claude what % buffs / nerfs the patch notes were

[thorn plover]

Lmao

That's what blizz did

[severe perch]

Apologies if you know already or not the actual problem mentioned. I found out yesterday you can adjust TTS volume. Mine was blazingly loud. Hidden in the chat settings I think but can keybund TTS config to find it.

[thorn plover]

I've got mine on max and it's still dead quiet. What setting specifically

I have the TTS settings keybound, I think I know what setting you mean, but it's already at 100

Problem is they're playing it through the effects channel now instead of master. And effects cranked breaks your ear drums

[severe perch]

Ah must be something else then if you are in the TTS config. Mine was super loud.

Well I have effects down at like 10 and master around 20 and TTS at 100 was shouting at me 😝

[daring sparrow]

does anyone know why the staff doesn't show up anymore? looks like I have nothing equipped, I tried different options

[blissful goblet]

They added hiding while sheathed in xmog update, can check there

[daring sparrow]

yea I mean I have it on default there and I tried other options

just doesn't show weapon at all now

[rotund geode]

So all sim tools show the new max upgrade but in the end we can't upgrade anything before a month is that right

[daring sparrow]

yes

[rotund geode]

And this is because ? I don't find information on ascendant voidcore limit droprates

[pseudo tangle]

thank you for this! If this evolves to something even more concrete than the napkin math here, highly appreciated in advance

[rotund geode]

Also was it intended for rerolls that you need to reroll in exactly the same key lvl otherwise you can get twice the exact same item? Like in a 10 and a 11?

[daring sparrow]

Because it's a 4 week questline

[rotund geode]

Ok

[dense lantern]

Tbh probably AI would've given better results at this point

[pulsar kettle]

who knows

[main timber]

I don't know if this is even the bug. You can get duplicates from the same key level so how could people test different key levels?

[rustic coyote]

Which piece would be better between bis chest or bis head piece? Both actual are bis and hero track maxed

[dusky shoal]

Does everbloom from the final bloom scale with mastery on the LB target?

[main timber]

Yes

[molten gull]

just checking out the new build for m+. the mastery gain from HB isn't worth even tho we keeping LB up full time?

I know its hard to find a point to drop down there, so that makes sense, but looking at like...nurturing dormancy or something

[vital oasis]

Is anyone having issues with their innervate macros not working suddenly? It worked perfectly until patch yesterday and now it's turbo broken. Unless I messed it up somehow? Any help?

[fierce isle]

With the new apex having a guaranteed symb bloom on your lifebloom target for the 4th apex point blooms is big

[fickle garden]

Is damage bugged for resto Druid too?

[granite sparrow]

I have chimaerus offhand mythic (bis) in bag but i also have crafted weapon.
Our bis mainhand is from beloren (will never get there since im pugging 4/9 mythic atm)
I will need to use my coins on chimaerus until i get gaze and rolling on nexus for staff isn't that good for me because i already have the chest and ring from there.

Question: Should i grab the mainhand or the pity coins for later or even try to get the nexus staff? Really lost here

Sorry for wall of text.

[mental dew]

did they fix the bonus roll?

[plain steeple]

There will surely be a wowhead post about the fix.

[fierce isle]

Are you mad about MW DPS?

[fickle garden]

What does that question have anything to do with what I asked

[main timber]

Our aura isn't bugged like Holy Paladin no

[fickle garden]

I’m asking if resto Druid dps is bugged right now

[main timber]

We have other bugs (positive ones)

[fickle garden]

Lovely

[gritty forge]

is keeper of the groove more healing than wildstalker in keys?

[main timber]

No but it's more damage

[fickle garden]

What are the Druid bugs

[fierce isle]

No

[hybrid tangle]

caster dps just doesn't feel anywhere near as fun as catweaving Hope they buff cat

[gritty forge]

so people are not playing keeper now with new range changes?

[blissful apex]

First global

First thing I see in here this morning LOL

[fierce isle]

😉

[boreal karma]

morning

its 5pm

[main timber]

I'm sure some are because it's more damage but that has nothing to do with what tree heals more

You were never Wildstalker because you catweaved

[gritty forge]

what makes wildstalker stronger than?

[fierce isle]

Keeper hasn’t been recommended in M+ since hero talents were a thing. Wildstalker’s healing profile is very strong in M+.

Right now keeper can do more DPS in M+ but healer DPS is a meme.

[river condor]

What addon are you using to indicate spellcasts avaiable on your mouse cursor? I used to have a weakaura for that but now WAs are gone. What addon is this?

[main timber]

Healing

[river condor]

@granite sparrow

[main timber]

For the 3rd time in this conversation

[vestal heath]

Got one question
This says the spells are empowered for 45s but the buff only lasts 15?

[granite sparrow]

its the same weakaura, search for m33kauras

[bright swift]

old wording of heart of the wild

bad tooltip

[blissful goblet]

Wow the new build feels sooo good

its very chill

thanks @main timber

[main timber]

It is the time of the Druid

[frozen heath]

When i QE sim "Belo'melorn, the Shattered Talon" + "Tome of Alnscorned Regret" as main and Off-hand in max mythic (289) its still worth than my crafted 1h staff (285). just curious because wowhead and icyveins both say that these are the BiS items, anyone knows why?

[silk ice]

Hanging up evoulker?

[main timber]

You need to move your Embellishment to another slot

Or at least, you need to do it in QE

[boreal karma]

put arcanoweave on a different slot

[bright swift]

Tbh Voulk, you should really dust of your rdruid for Lura

Evoker looks extremely ass on it

[dark frost]

can u link plz?

[silk ice]

Until the new Strat of ignoring the crystals and then golden houring them a minute later becomes the meta

[frozen heath]

ty

[frozen heath]

ty

[stark horizon]

To confirm, still no way to blacklist a monk’s stagger debuff, correct? I use grid 2.

[fierce isle]

You don’t want to see your monks stagger level?

I’d think seeing when they’re red would be really useful

[blissful goblet]

Its the the QE 12.0.5 FAQ linked above

[blissful goblet]

I felt like my build prior to patch wasnt that much different but it feels real good to just do caster spells and just throw heals. I enjoyed cat weaving but im vibing with this more

thanks so much again

and everyone else here who contributes

[stark horizon]

It’s red almost 24/7 in my keys, I don’t wanna see it!

[fierce isle]

lol

[tidal sigil]

Am i stupid or is it bad to extend lifebloom with swiftmend since it doesnt prog bloom in pandemic (iirc) and it would give less refresh opportunities?

[thorn plover]

The blooms from pandemic refresh are a very tiny amount of total blooms, the gcd savings from extending with VI are worth more

Especially if you're extending 2 rejuvs a regrowth and a WG at the same time

[main timber]

Also you refresh like 4-5 HoTs on them

Which is a huge saving

[tidal sigil]

Okay so ideally its swiftmend on LB target if possible

Or does Low hp target get prio for the cd reduction

[thorn plover]

Yes keep those hots up to keep photo pumping out blooms

No, just SM your LB target

If you think you're gonna save someone with it, by all means, but SM doesn't hit that hard

[hushed sand]

Really would like a better understanding of what "Bloom Frenzy" even means. That tooltip...

[tidal sigil]

Nice! is that also the case for m+? when SM isnt giga needed on someone dropping. Or well SM as you mention doesnt heal al ot

[frozen prairie]

used both coins got chest and boots. Sadge

ok semi sadge coz i need chest

[hushed sand]

Question on the topic of weapons mentioned earlier. With the new feature of being able to increase the item level of a weapon, isn't it better to use a two hand, or will we get multiple items for upgrading?

[thorn plover]

Seems like they will just drop from bosses but we really don't know how many we get

Im betting we get a lot

[hushed sand]

Could be. I was going to chill until finding out though.

[thorn plover]

We don't get them for 4 weeks, you have time

[languid pendant]

Quick question: Final bloom doesnt mean the Lifebloom expiring, it just means one of the big blooms. So we keep the 3-Stack pandemic refresh on one target?

[thorn plover]

Maybe they clarify by then

[thorn plover]

Yes

[molten gull]

so in AOE we literally JUST press starfire?

[runic bramble]

there is no way to blacklist anything, apart from a couple very specific debuffs like sated. You are just gonna have to deal with seeing everything or see no typeless debuffs (like veximus circles, emberdawn tornadoes etc.)

They even made it worse this patch, so i wouldn’t bet on them fixing it

[hushed sand]

It means expired or refreshed during pandemic.

[stark horizon]

Yeah, I’ve been bouncing back and forth between all debuffs and just type debuffs

[thorn plover]

Starfire

[molten gull]

does anyone know if the reroll duplicates have been fixed?

[stark horizon]

It really frustrates me. Not that big of a deal, but still annoying.

[runic bramble]

now u get to see stuff like auto frenzied regen cd and fel armour as well tho

cause they removed “take debuffs from blizzard frames”

[languid pendant]

I really loved the switch to moonweave with Call of Elder Druid, hope they keep it like this.

[stark horizon]

I at least got rid of fel by selecting the blizzard frame one

[runic bramble]

that was removed as of 12.0.5?

[grim sail]

Where can i find the new talent build for resto in m+? Anyone got a link. Can't really figure out what has changed tbf

[stark horizon]

Worked this morning for me

[molten gull]

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/guide/classes/druid/restoration/talent-builds-pve-healer

[atomic mirage]

guys

how does it feel

the new resto apex

in raid its op

but im talking about m+

[thorn plover]

It's a small increase in m+

[molten gull]

everyone is just blasting 10s for their bonus rolls right now

so everything feels funny easy

[granite sparrow]

If i grab a reroll from the vault can i use it next week? i already used my 2 coins on chimaerus

[spark river]

I love sometimes checking how far people are willing to go to get a healing parse

[molten gull]

yeah ofc

[thorn plover]

Yes you can save them

[granite sparrow]

thank you

[spark river]

Top ranked disc priest on hc crown has gotten 2 sources of magic and 10 fucking innervates

10!

[thorn plover]

Lmao

That should get flagged

[silver phoenix]

I can't get bonus rolls yet T_T just hit 90 a few days ago. Gotta get those things to Decimus

[molten gull]

anyone else's audio alerts stop working from in game cdm?

[thorn plover]

Yes it's everyone, all TTS sounds. Non TTS works fine

[molten gull]

lol funny

thanks blizzard

[silver phoenix]

Going into stealth as a cat doesn't make the sound for me anymore

[boreal karma]

and almost lost to his holy pala friend

[spark river]

all 3 from that group are ranked top 3 currently lol

They really did everything wrong just to get that parse

[boreal karma]

yes

[spark river]

I respect the hustle

[boreal karma]

prolly just stand in poop aswell

[thorn plover]

Looks good on the resume right

[boreal karma]

but who cares about hc

[bitter ember]

aleria is cringe either way, mystical parses are just which grp plays p2 the worst

[golden kestrel]

Hello, I started to gear my rdruid, and buff seems crazy. I wonder tho if you guys think we'll be nerf ? it's a bit unbalanced rn, no :/ ?

[boreal karma]

mystical

[bitter ember]

like wow man grats u took 190k dtps more than another log

in p2 alone

[boreal karma]

dont think it will get nerfed

[bitter ember]

talented player must've played every global perfect

13cpm regrowth nvm

[spark river]

i am rank 7 so i care a little hehe

[bitter ember]

thats great man 👍

[spark river]

[blazing loom]

how many targets in m+ do we starfire over wrath

[spark river]

2?

lol

[drowsy isle]

2

[blazing loom]

y the lol

most classes is not 2 u switch to ur aoe

so thats y i asked if resto was the same

[silk ice]

2 priests PI-ing the same target invalidates a dps log

[thorn plover]

Starfire might be better on 1 target tbh

Depends how much time you have to cast

Lol

[spark river]

i think its not just because of cast time

[wide bison]

hello guys

[spark river]

but id still rather be in cat in st

[wide bison]

Now it's more worthwhile to use magic, isn't it?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[plain rampart]

are we broken in raid healing now?

[thorn plover]

No

Just good

[main timber]

Good is maybe understating it a little bit

[thorn plover]

Very good maybe

[serene blaze]

Guess blizz wants me to grab trinket

[thorn plover]

Looks like a reroll token to me

[serene blaze]

radiant sunstone isnt even worth taking for m+

?

or litany

[lethal kayak]

Are we still playing Reforestation now that apex talents are worth a shot in raid content

[thorn plover]

No

[thorn plover]

No it's terrible

[rough rover]

Our best trinkets are Gaze and Locus right now? So not worth going for dungeon trinket rolls?

[celest zinc]

is there a resto BIS list somewhere? Where do you guys spend your reroll totens?

[thorn plover]

HoW is very good still

[thorn plover]

Wowhead but bis lists are pointless. Sim your guy

[lethal kayak]

Where can I look at a good talent tree for the new patch?

[thorn plover]

Wowhead

[rough rover]

Ah aight, thanks

[thorn plover]

The answer to everyone's questions is almost certainly "wowhead"

[haughty ibex]

or sim

[thorn plover]

Or cast more regrowth. Context matters

[celest zinc]

should I sim all the gear from all the dungeons to figure out which dungeon I should spend my tokens?

[thorn plover]

Upgrade finder tab give you a good idea

[celest zinc]

I'll figure this out

[spark river]

You should target the dungeons that have the most upgrades for you

[dire pagoda]

Nxp for most people for the bonusrolls

[celest zinc]

is this "upgrade finder" in raidbots or questionably epic?

[thorn plover]

QE

[celest zinc]

this might not be accurate 😄

[boreal karma]

but our gap is same as it was befor for the best spec to the worst spec

[half star]

It is only as accurate as the information you give it in setup, so you'll want to make sure you've changed the IL slider to account for 6/6 mythic track

If you're spending a token though you also have to consider if the dungeon has a massive loot pool of useless things vs a dungeon with a smaller loot pool of all okay things. You're gambling a bit.

[celest zinc]

there we go! now there's plenty of upgrades

[fierce isle]

Buff bottom 3 and everything is good

[thorn plover]

Looks pretty balanced. Doubt we catch nerfs

Need more data obviously

That's like 12 hours worth at best

Probably some hidden spec tech Mattiu hasn't found yet even

[drowsy hill]

Is keeper of the grove now viable in high keys? Not seeing much about it on wowhead

[thorn plover]

It does slightly more damage for 10% less healing. Since you're playing a healing class.... WS is better

[plain steeple]

Did you set the loot to mythic or hero from m+?

[boreal karma]

ye think so aswell

[dire pagoda]

Why no Reforestation? It feels powerful most of the time.

[thorn plover]

Because we don't have points for it, and we're playing wildstalker which has less synergy with it

[drowsy hill]

My hero. Thank you

[mint gate]

Everbloom gave me AotC last night, holy shit it's so strong. Is a hotfix to bring it back in line on the horizon yet?

[plain steeple]

Not to be expected.

[leaden fjord]

Does the blizzard CDM just not detect pandemic on lifebloom?
I get a sound alert on aura removal but none of the pandemic alerts are working
Now that I run the apex in raid I'm getting a little tilted trying to hit these pandemic refreshes

[whole horizon]

correct, it does not

[thorn plover]

No it doesn't. LifebloomAlert is what a lot are using. But beware all TTS sounds are broken right now

[whole horizon]

wdym by broken?

[thorn plover]

TTS = 0 volume

[celest zinc]

A friend told me he did bonus loot on dreamrift and it consumed BOTH tokens and gave two of the same item as loot

[leaden fjord]

Weakauras my beloved
Thanks for the addon rec, I'll grab that immediately

Raid rerolls take two tokens

[whole horizon]

no, they tied it to the Effects sound channel now. dogshit change tbh, but working as intended

[thorn plover]

This is a lie, raid uses 2 tokens for 1 piece of loot

[thorn plover]

Yeah so the effects blow my ear drums. Great work

[whole horizon]

it used to work on primary sound channel and was unaffected by sliders, now you can't separate it from game volume.

[thorn plover]

Dog shit change like you said

TTS has its own slider completely

It always has

This change was completely unnecessary

[molten gull]

hey where is that trinket comparison chart?

[celest zinc]

ok I misunderstood, he sais he looted chestpiece and got another of the same chestpiece for bonus loot

[molten gull]

i just got hero heart of wind and myth feather

[whole horizon]

yeah its just another example of them not even taking a second to think about why something would be a bad idea

[thorn plover]

Ya getting loot from a normal drop doesn't remove it from the loot pool. This is normal behavior

Aside from the bug where nothing is removed from the loot pool currently

[leaden fjord]

I did see a post on reddit last night about receiving two of the same item from rerolls though, so even though the raid reroll working like that is unsurprising might still be good to hold them

[blissful apex]

Is anyone online who got dupe bonus roll items?

[thorn plover]

Fix my tts

[wise galleon]

Im still salty about a guy today not wanting to trade the dreamrift belt myth when he rolled one extra an nobody else wanted the item, he wanted 200k for it

[blissful apex]

Look at your dms

[wise galleon]

ill just pick it out of the vault at this point

[sinful zephyr]

I have one question. Is Resilient flourishing clearly better for m+, or is root
network fine too? Also, when I analyzed my logs, I figured out that Bond and Nature would do more healing overall than Harmonious Constitution. Maybe im doing something wrong...

[boreal karma]

im a raid enjoyer

[thorn plover]

🙌

[boreal karma]

but i probably start doing keys again

kinda bored atm

[neat patio]

today i got 272 wep from vault, do i upgrade ir max or wait 4 weeks for free upgrade ?

[vivid owl]

what is everyone gonna coin then for m+ enjoyers? nexus point and what else? (i dont raid)

[haughty ibex]

idk I’ll spin a wheel

u should do the same

[sinful zephyr]

Aa maybe

[haughty ibex]

i think in 4 weeks it will need to be fully upgraded for u to be able to use the thingy

so u will prob need to upgrade anyways sooner or later, decide when is best

[thorn plover]

You need to upgrade it to max before you can use the upgrade token anyway

[neat patio]

ty

[thorn plover]

Ah sorry Alice you're fast

[haughty ibex]

is that a compliment…

[fierce isle]

Nexus point offers haste/mast ring, cata gloves, haste/mast staff and bis chest

Bad items are a cloak, boots and crit ring

[dire pagoda]

All my 3 extra rolls for this ID

[thorn plover]

Sure is

[vivid owl]

yeah and ofc not in resto spec as i dont want that duskwraith shiiii

[fierce isle]

Yup

Roll guardian if you don’t want the staff. Roll balance if you want the staff

[cursive pilot]

Wonder if there a chance bonus roll gives just gold like the good ol days

[fierce isle]

Nope. Maybe if you use it once the entire loot pool is exhausted. No one knows

[vivid owl]

yeah actually, i dont want the staff as i have a crafted one!

[sinful zephyr]

Myth staff is nice upg tho

[vivid owl]

and i have the weapon bug too, so ive had like every weapon in the game but all low ilvl

[vivid owl]

OH WAIT it is myth

i forgot that

[fierce isle]

Eventually you might want it for the 4 ilvl but that’s easy to come back and grab in a month when you have other stuff you want already

[cursive pilot]

Shitty vault = use 2 rolls in myth dream 1 roll in nexus

[molten gull]

a guy in my party that just completed a dungeon got the same roll twice

[cursive pilot]

Feel like that’s the only path I got

[trail pivot]

Hey. I just opened my vault and got a HC Locus-Walkers Ribbon. Should I take it or kill crown first without the trinket in hope of getting it there? I don't raid on mythic, so my chances of getting it better than HC is slim.

[vivid owl]

yeah maybe ill just try and pug chimaerus even tho i dont enjoy raiding nowadays, as the gaze is just way bigger than anything i can get in m+

[fierce isle]

Known bug right now

[cursive pilot]

Kill first

[thorn plover]

Kill first for sure

[molten gull]

Yeah that guy just asked to confirm

[vivid owl]

but then if i won it im sure every dps would mald

[cursive pilot]

Never take fault first if you haven’t killed first

[cursive pilot]

Fuck everyone else