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plater is broken
this is so pissss
Should I take a mythic weapon or trinket? I have a crafted 281 staff (only 4 star because i used cheap mats on the intital craft early)
champion 6/6 aln & void diffuser
i swear everyone has that fucking offhand in their vault
that offhand is so bad
coin druid
Qe live telling me to pick neck on this, would it be better to take the helm and cat it and craft a neck instead? I have a champion neck still, and a hero helm.
can I add in the sim? I didnt find the option. Or u're saying to add in-game and sim again?
anyone else getting this?
spire and then blow your upgrade token on it imo
just stuck here
yes
You can add it in QE Live
crafted boots so its pants or belt
QElive trinket section says heroic Alnseer is stronger than Myth track Heart of wind - if you don't raid mythic would you just stick to the hero trinkets?
4 weeks?
No idea, I was told to spam cancel but that's also not working
I think we just unsub
im in and raiding
just wait you should get in within 3-5 mins
you guys suck
is there anything that recommends which dungeons you should run based on what myth pieces you already have? for the new bonus roll mechanic*
you can run a droptimizer
on raidbots
time to touch grass until they fix authentication BS
What is grass?
or qelive for resto i guess
Confirmed at least that Everbloom does still hit the Lifebloom target, from PTR
LB target is completely unkillable
is this how you sim the vault? for dungeon items?
So what do you guys think?
For vault you can just import your SimC and it will have vault items on it, then use Top Gear
Yeah im stuck lol, I have heroic gaze already but still have a champion trinket, but i already have myth boot ring and chest so nexus point wont be smart... maybe windrunner spire, least I can get trinket or shoulders, how ever I would like a heroic locus walkers ribbon instead and the loot table is tiny..
You in yet?
first boss heroic
Anyone stuck in logging into game server 😭
yes
everyone
I waited and was rewarded
oh god what is this.
i will follow this sage advice
can i ignore this or is this an actual issue
Just load anyways
wildstalker make a return?
That's normal every patch
Means you didn't upgrade your game/download new content before loading up
are we really wildstalker for raid now?
oh ok ty
But some addons will just give you an error or not work if you havent updated yet, not a big deal
yes
So is Keeper back for M?!?!? because hell yeah if so
didnt happen for midnight launch but i guess all my addons were prepared
the best way to open vault is restoration ?
wildstalker for bear and survivability right and not melee dmg, orrr?
look at this guy - IN THE GAME - pfff *cries
for raid*
My fellow Retro!
ok first 3 bosses in that log if we need any garbage lfr data
wildstalker for bear 
holy moly
cool
why would we take wildstalker over keeper now? is it just the loss of wild synthesis value?
do we even take 4 piece anymore?
wdym anymore

you were playing 4p?
https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/mdpziifsfcqy
I've never used top gear, is it smart to take feather?
rush 2pc dont worry about 4pc as much though?
is that the gameplan for a new resto?
IM IN
clear as much raid as you can then get set
cyanerdsss
u have like infinite ways to get 4pc in 1h
ribbon in vault 🤤
seems like a 10% buff to apex healing
me too
what's the build for raid post apex buff?
thought it was gonna be more crazzzzy
upgrading HoW to M track has to be the play right? nothing else worth 2nd week in a row
3 cata charges is nice rn, good head start
leech has like no value now :/
Is the chance of getting a weapon higher in vault if we loot as Balance?
yeah just go lfr get 4set then u will start looting cata charges from everything
omfg disconnected... cruel cruel world
haha yeah if you self-Lifebloom I guess it is near 0
i wonder if its because i called you guys nerds
i love that change tbh
Is there a more detailed breakdown of the specs on a site then wowhead has?
do i take the staff? i just crafted my 285 staff yesterday 🙁
sigh, QE says vaelgor but i kind of want the staff? i have crafted 285
No but also wowhead guide is like 20,000 words already
you didnt play refo?
What more are you lookin for

are there any heroic mechanics I can't eat to pad?
not on last 2 bosses
so sorry about asking again but I think I'm blind. I didn't find where u can add embellishment, I can only add crafted item and sockets, no embellishment option
does livliness = more photo procs
u have bis chest there, if u don’t have myth chest or crafted that’s prob a better option? idk just sim
this guy gets it
yes
Im not saying its bad, just more of a this is how this talent set plays VS this other talent set 🙂
When you add a craft, it should let you place embellishments on it
would this be good to catalyze, it would be haste vers tho
the sim was telling me chest yeah, but it's only heroic track, and it's probably telling me that because i have a 171 ilvl chest rn LOL. i was thinking of just using my rerolls on nexus to see if i could get bis chest at mythic. that's kind of my thought process...
a lot of trash hahahaha
oh ur right I didn’t see ilvl
its cool
ur fault for not doing better keys… now u pay the consequences…
LOL im sorry............................
is anyone else's elvui party frames bricked?
thats weird, I tried twice already and that effect option is not here LOL
but like do i just take the staff? i just feel like either one would be a waste because i can just use those other currencies to upgrade my crafted weapon to 298 next week
There are no Neck embellishments you would equip
oh!
People are screamingi n trade chat to not open vaults beaccuse some are bugged, anyone have this issue? People getting hero items when they should have gotten myth it seems, but could be fake, im scared now
is lb tracker really low for anyone after patch?
oh makes sense now, my crafts are wrist, staff and neck. thats why sim is telling me if I replace crafted staff for a myth 6/6 staff it'd be a downgrade
ty tho!
So I use cd manager with tts to remind me when to use swiftmend, but volume is crazy low all of a sudden. Do any of the audio options besides master volume affect it
Does NS still buff our regrowths during convoke? I saw people talking about it earlier but saw no definitive answer.
no
blizz did somethign with their tts volume, its not just lb alert
sigh, QE says vaelgor but i kind of want the staff? i have crafted 285, thoughts?
do we listen to the robot or go based on feelings hmmm
i love feelings
The robot is just giving you numbers to pair with your feelings
Vibes > numbers for sure
You aren't supposed to take the #1 short-term choice always
That is why there is a massive Vault box at the top that walks you through it
Oh damn so I should take NS out of my convoke macro?
Curious why no Master Shapeshifter in raid build? Is the ability to regen mana not that necessary currently?
where are you seeing that
wowhead
It has MS or
so if we want the extra bonus loot roll do we just take the 6 coins and wait or?
if you think u need mana take it if u dont dont its that simple
oh the keeper one doesn't
should i take the trinket or helm for tier ?
oh dbm is broken too, cool
Looks like the ilvl upgrades require 4 thingies
And you get 3 a week
Or 3 from 1st week at least
anyone have any clue what is happening here? im in a full party
getting only one frame
addons broken update day
question:
a) our BIS set is not the one listed in the wowhead guide but instead would include two crafted embellished pieces, right?
b) which two slots would be BIS for that, ultimately?
That trinket is quite good. I would take the trinket. Helm you can just do some m+
u got myth wep?
what raid boss are we thinking about using the voidcore's on?
Friends, can i have some help please, I am very sad - this is now broken and it was the only way to see my hots. For some reason Blizzard doesnt want me to be able to see my hots? https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/k-big-debuffs - I dont need a whole UI package I just want my light addon back.
no, crafted atm
whats everyone using to actually see thier hots atm please?
If I have myth track heart of wind and heroic vaelgors what do you think would be better to use it on? Alnseer?
Danders Frames
ty
elvui is great as always
my eyes
u can change the size
is that default frames
yes
for sure
Is dandar's frames broken?
just use danders lol
not in NZ i cant
but get anything
my lag is bad enough
danders grid elvui
what
I download eulvi and i cant move
everbloom is insane in m+
its maxxed already
Just make the buff/debuffs bigger?
are u playing on a laptop or
Will the changes to everbloom make it usable in raid builds?
like what’s ur issue
no
show breakdown
it'll be mandatory in raid builds
okay so, i used Kbig debuffs, light addon that doesnt mean i cant move - but something has changed and its not working atm
yes, you play apex in all content now
turn off all your addons and turn them back on 1 at a time
okay maybe u can like try ur best to explain what do u mean by u can’t move
loveee it, felt so weird not using apex for half of pve content tot
I mean, i can move, play the game etc, but when i download a UI pack, such as EULVI, my screeen is stuttery
so it’s fps
sure
so is ur computer im afraid
?
im in New Zealand
we just agreed it cannot be lag
my specs are fine
what’s ur ms
175 ms
can you mouseover this and see what % memory your addons are using
Can anyone tell me how I fix my lifebloom weakaura?
new?
apex works without even casting lifebloom
chill fps 💯
i literally just got home !
lol 7 hour maintenance and got DC'd and now stuck with a perma "character with that name already exists"
sounds cancer
i mean u have shit fps but ur addons literally take 0
what is our caster damage rotation
i'm gonna miss puddles under me cuz of this shit man
ill download EULVI and i show you
anyone know of a way to add a crafted piece with an embelishment ?
like is starsurege and fire even worth
to QE
Guys in new build if i dont need that much mana do i just go livelinnes or eotd?
turn on elvui and check this.
embrace
i mean afaik if nothing changed elvui is still the heaviest, there is some lighter options but it shouldn’t impact ur system performance that much
need advice, there are 4 pieces out of 7, if i roll as balance, from nexus that I want, ik the 2h and ring arnt hard bis but im more likely to get them sooner than the 1h from myth crown and myth ring from lura, so even tho my vault has myth chest and ring from nexus, wouldnt it be better to grab the tokens for another reroll chance? since im going to roll so much at nexus?
it might be related to elvui and the api changes.
Any reason fluid form isnt taken on the new build?
and whatever setup they had on elvui.
boomie form isn't really a damage gain
shouldnt but does
could be but ur scaring me off putting a period at the end of every sentence
good.
is there a reason rake/rip are recommended > starsurge?
I dont wanna go cat if I dont have fluid form 😛
looks inline with evoker, perfect
ye just do wat the scary man said
nerf to everbloom is happening, FYI so enjoy it this week
No more Reforestation? sadge
does ur dad work at blizz?
source: My dad OWNS blizzard
@cyan minnow is this already updated for 3 blooms
TBh
or I gues that module doesn't look at that
welp i hate eulvi - gonna try danders
it doesnt feel that op
hey is there anywhere i can find new raid build?
ellesmere ui is very similar to elvui and im having zero issues with it rn
in fact its pretty whatever
no one is going to be able to replicate my experince unless they are playing in new zealand, on an oce server, queuing into American games
make everbloom great again
addons won't increase your ms though. so if you're lagging when using addons then it's fps
Go in with your m+ build. Should already do better than whatever raid build last patch
i mean they get 50fps chilling so it will be noticeable no matter what
tyty
this everbloom buff is so good, 50% of the final bloom xD
wowhead got updated with new builds
u are coping idk where ur getting this from but u cannot blame it on lag whatsoever
instead of every bloom
it will be in 30 mins
what a great upgrade
?
But the value of it doesn't get impacted or
it does
it will be yea
minorly
okay danders is good
oh ok
hooray! thanks for the help
neither of these addons are particulary resource heavy, neither gpu or cpu. they clearly have an issue with elvui settings somewhere.
if you consumed a sotf around the time photo goes off or something it might over attribute everbloom
bc its looking for up to 5 blooms
new raid build just dropped
quality post
Real
obvious troll
how tho? explain yoru train of thought
still KOTG right?? wowhead says wildstalker is also good for raid but i’m a bit 🤔
Ws is pretty good in raid yeah, KOTG could still be played cuz of the Convoke cd flexibility but WS is looking quite strong
sick raid build man, 1 button build lez go
Any recommendations on which dungeons to roll for myth pieces if you currently have only 1 myth piece?
previous rank 2 healed two people with 30% of lifeblooms healing right
in that case are we still catweaving in raid?
so every tic, 3 people were healed with lifebloom, the wearer and 2 others
You were never catweaving in raid
You can use HOTW in cat for some 0 commitment token damage and for mana regen, or Wrath spam, but good play rn = no need to mana regen until VERY long fights
and u think the tics were important? they healed for 400
now its 6 people on only the final bloom
The final blooms are 70% of LB healing
what mattered was the 5 blooms
final bloom is ALL blooms
yeah ok i only used cat for HOTW but i thought WS was the catweaving build
now its 3, thats a MT nerf, but aoe buff
before it was 5 bloom on maintarget, so 5x then a 30% splash on 2t, now it will hit the MT for 4.5x + 5 more targets for 50%
thank u for your help ❤️
now the final bloom in 5 bursts, vs 3 burst
its a lot stronger
Every guide recommendation is first and foremost for healing
If WS is being recommended it's just for healing first
also worse
yes but the 3 bursts will heal the lb target anyway, so its gonna be 4.5 blooms
so how does this voidcore thing work?
but hey, dps buff am i right? woooo
ragebaiting
So tldr for m+, we stay WS but are just caster DPS now?
doing 13k dps as kotg in 16s
whats the rotation
Even better, its: 3 x 6 x 50% vs 5 x 2 x 30%
seems lie all i got time for is sunfire and wrath
are we finally using our apex talent in raid now?
the damage buff will actually help
Maybe you're just very bad at it
i just did 20k dps by existing in the dungeon
is there a way to track symbiotic blooms?
i didnt even try
Wait, kotg in keys?
Is that what we’re doing now?
no
for dps you can
I been @ work lol. Haven’t been able to keep up
dont listen to this troll
tried it last night
for healing you WS
timed 2 keys first try
89 casts is not existing
when WS was struggling
could have done a heck of a lot more
did m+ build change with the buff at all?
Its like one cast every 20secs
just take caster talents instead of cat
someone got the link to the new M+ build
wowhead
its literally on wowhead
Go look
Rotation is sunfire, moonfire, star spam when available?
Do you use cat at all for ST?
hmmm didnt think we'd take moonkin form
we take it just for pathing, you dont actually use it
think the build is 3/4 apex with phosy tbh
Oh sick, ty
to get 2tv back or refo
any of sounds good
got ya
You really think the extra blooms isn't worth?
Hi Guys, how are you?
Just got an mythic weapon haste and mastery 2 hand.
And the gaze heroic
I already have the crafted weapon 285, do you guys think does it work to get the weapon?
the SM blooms arent that many
If I’m only focusing for m+ what staff (besides crafted) do I want? The one from xenas or AA?
If it were me I'd take heroic gaze and bonus rolls for a bis 2hander
nexus coiners - balance/resto or doesnt matter?
photo gave me .34 blooms/sec
sm gave me .24
do i take mythic gaze even though i alreayd have heroic gaze?
damn you lucky
nothing but trash in mine 2 weeks in a row
but this week your trash is a reroll
@gentle nova i think you might be right
oh wow
We can reroll vault?
That's a 8.5% point lol
Wdym 'only 75'
yes you can turn your vault into one of those new things that let you get a mythic piece
its also a perma rot fight
and it doesn't count towards your weekly 2
Ohh gotcha
for something like bird it would do less
SM is .25 blooms/sec *8k
why am I taking rake and rip in my raid build?
anyone have updated talents for m+?
for mana regen with hotw
hotw rip for mana
gotcha
wowhead
do we really need mana like taht?
There is just nowhere to put them anyway
not if youre good
right
You need to look at alternatives
arent there better talents to take then?
There isn't
Wowhead raid build is correct? O.o
we're playing WS in raid now?
Class tree is very fake. There are about 5 mandatory nodes then nothing matters until T3
this weapon mythic is haste and mastery
But i already have the crafted one, idk what to do now lol
Is wrath on ST worth casting in M+? Or is Starfire just that op rn
Anyone have the new spec for M+ ?
are people catweaving at all now or is it just a chicken angle - and fluid form is a no for chicken?
We are caster-DPS enjoyers
Wowhead or IV
what's the caster DPS rotation? the link redirects back to cat weaving
Ty
just got home missed all the early day talk. if i needed to change my spec or play style before raid. the pins would reflect that yeah? any TDLR notes for me? raid is in 30mins
looks like we use cat to get mana back
There's a DPS section in resources channel
thanks
we get a lot more mana back with cat dots than stasrfire and wrath
Gatoweave!
do you use chicken or just cast in normal form
Take the build from wowhead, its updated. Gameplay stays the same.
is the one point in thriving vegetation really better than harmonious blooming?
Is it efficient to swiftmend myself when I have LB even if it's not in a pandemic, or just target others?
Just HOTW -> Rip and the Convoke Wraths are gonna be covering practically all the mana return you should need
basically doing catweave dps with just sunfire and moonfire
ty ty ty
TV is mandatory, its a shame we cant take 2
HB is not good
I am definitely taking 2 points in tv
I mean we setill have innervate too
both m+ and raid
gotta use swiftmend on cd so its fine to do it on yourself
i think we drop apex 4 tbh. i think mattiu is right
Based on that log, you are never dropping Apex4
someone tell me my math is wrong
I am going 2 min convoke for now
Only Dreamgrove can see a talent do 8% and think "I can beat this with my 4%r"
I am sure we ll figure out if dropping apex 4 is viable or just straight garbage
i really enjoy apex 4 in m+
Thanks!
ah cool, we still need 3 more shards for 6 voidcores
so gotta bash out a cppl dungeons before i get the bonus loot rolls
yay
What talents do we swap out for sunfire
yeah i was missing part of my math, its worth about 12k hps
Do we let lifebloom expire, or recast it prior to?
Does LB still bloom if i extend it with VI or should i just refresh it in periodic for the bloom (regarding raid)?
is the reroll token also in 4 weeks or just the ilvl boost one?
refresh under 4.5sec, extend with SM wherever possible
@gentle nova apex 4 math 12k hps on your log
ty
It does not bloom if you VI, but its still worth it to VI your LB
Are we not taking reforestation with this patch with the changes?
Liveliness vs Embrace if you're confident in your mana management in raid? Are they about equivalent?
Wait, there's no path to master shapeshifter anymore after these buffs? I get to be a pleb that has to manage my mana?
Second week in a row getting a myth track Refueling Orb. Feels bad.
what build are you looking at
Wdym?
No. Embrace is decently ahead.
Thanks
@thorn plover Id like to say lifebloom alert no tell me lifebloom after update ty love you
turn volume up
I copied the new wowhead raid build. I believe it's written by one of the guys in here
its at 100
it has MS
in LBA
Wowhead raid WS definitely has MS
we still doing no apex for raid?
, its still very quiet. also its all TTS not just lifebloomalert
read above
MS is default because the average player will probably need it
Apex is fucking busted now
If you re good with mana, you re going embrace probably
even built in CDM tts is quiet af
Actually, I think the link to the raid path on wowhead is broken because when you click on the actual link of it. It does not have MS
It is set to that and i set it to master channel and no tts
Is there a specific reason we're switching to WS with the changes on the Apex talent ?
its there its just really quiet. its all TTS sounds, including blizz own cdm
self healing increases to buff apex blooms from SotF
oh i see i cannot ctrl s anymore
O shucks
before i could
sound is all kinds of fucked up
tryna find the chat
i could disable sound with master up but now i cant interesting
Is PS now recommended because ns doesnt buff regrowths in convoke anymore?
got it thanks
Are we always lifeblooming ourselves in raid now?
Im all kinds of confused cause I'm scrambling and changing stuff before raid. It's wild that we're going windstalker now, that's why i was confused
im never out of range of myself ❤️
Anyone know if they actually put in profession knowledge resets?
is that fixed in 12.0.5?
been "fixed" for 2 weeks
oh, didn't know
It seems tts voice is tied to sound effects in the volume mixer @thorn plover
who the hell did you ping mate
over 100k DPS now via owl weaving?
no matter which channel you pick in the addon?
yeah
anyone got a spell breakdown on how much % everbloom doing in a raid boss encounter?
thanks
master is blasted and i dont hear it if i put effects to 0
is anyone getting a "that character already exists" error when trying to log in after trying to access the ah?
hmmm
Mattiu did 22%
my volume doesnt change no matter where i put it
I'm assuming Convoke is still competitive with changes?
But it really is a massive buff
Thats weird idk if i put sound effects at 0 and set to master channel it doesnt play a sound
im going mythic in 1 hour
Is convoke still okay to use in the new apex talents raid build or is ToL highly preferred?
ToL is dead
I think tol use useless now
rip tol
Thank god
did blizz break m33kauras? i'm getting tons of frame drop and m33k is at like 95% cpu usage was fine the last 3 weeks
It was good for one patch and even then no one actually played it
Dumb ass tree
Is it difficult to get the void upgraded weps/trinks?
Token for sure right?
ah ok i'll hunt i thought i cleared them must have one still loading
Rain is there anyway to see which ones are "old"
no true was just wondering if you knew something i didnt' 🙂
How come it’s useless now?
the M+ build takes sunfire but then says never cast it, shouldn't we take astral influence instead
Wildstalker
Sure
It doesnt mean much
Oh for m+?
No
is kotg better now in M+ since low cd swiftmend which does the big apex heal?
Ohh shoot 298s are time gated? Good
No
anyone know how to fix this in dander's?
its only for my own party frame
side note... guess we can now see symbiotic blossms

Gimme an AA or Pit man
I would ask in danders discord. They’re pretty helpful there
I just wanted to ask some resto druids since I'd guess if it was a wide spread thing others here would experience it
but I guess I can
Sorry I suck at finding stuff, where is the sunfire rotation for dps ?
There is none
Sunfire is bad
Oh I thought it was the play now
No
The new build is vibe city after h and m chim kills
DPS info^^
Ty
Did I read some where here that base ui has debuff customization now?
there are no mythic chimaerus kills
with ws
now
Huh?

You'll see like 100 more today
is apex the way to go in raid now?
yes
❤️
We do not pick hero talents based on dps, we are healers
Everbloom is cranking
is it optimal to lifebloom yourself and stand in melee, or stand in range (raid)
Would it be good or bad to drop the 1/2 Thriving vegetation for Reforestation. I do enjoy being a big tree every 40 seconds ish
? Why not
On what planet?
small amount, its more dps tho and mana isnt a thing
livliness not worth much
resto druids are considered a ranged class for certain boss mechanics. Many of them are bad if they get put in melee
Its pretty useless in WS
catweaving sucks now? 😔 boooo
Yeah you lose a little bit of healing, the counterpoint is that it's better damage for magic caster build, and if you're casting those spells, you're spending a lot more mana when you contribute DPS, while catweaving was free
are we running apex in raid now?
Who cares, you lose a ton of healing doing that
how?
yes
You can definitely still take Liveliness if you want, but Master shapeshifter is a very comfortable combo
Thanks
From all the buffs you have to self healing
Also, why does healing matter if you wipe the raid?
WildStalker is the go to raid build now ya?
we go VI instead of double swiftmend in keys now?
new to r druid and healing, my first vault and I'm 215 ilvl. Is the haste vers ring worth taking? I only do m+ and all the logs I see are full haste mastery.
did we get buffed?
Yeah the ring is probably fine to take there
Yes
Do we shift to boomkin when dpsing
Not really
Fuck im out of binds
Do you have the voidcore things unlocked? I think the ring is fine but you could also choose to take an extra bonus roll for Nexus Point coining
It has many good items
But either way it's fine
How is mana management in m+ now?
can you take fluid form in M+ over incapaciting roar, if you dont give a fk about helping with interrupts
not yet, unlocking that stuff this week
So for clarification in raid, mdps is bis LB target now?
Ive never had any problems with having myself in melee with LB
self
is [Litany of Lightblind Wrath] any good ?
Not rly for us
ty
Thats trolling
deciding between the ring and the currency lmao
please quit DMing me, i know the volume is low on lifebloom alert. its on blizz end with all TTS sound, there is nothing i can do
is verdant infusion slightly better now because keeping LB up on tank is just juiced now
Its what you get advertising it in your profile :^)
oof good call, deleted
I am new to resto druid last couple weeks and have never taken or used HotW. Should I start taking and using it
He's just flexing how popular he is
Its good for mana in raid, decent st damage too
Its a press once every 2 minutes button, not too bad
In previous m+ build, cat weaving restored decent mana right? Now that we’re not weaving, is it worse?
hoping we still dont need MS in raid without tol
You didn't get any mana from catweaving in the old M+ build
No, cat weaving didnt restore mana
We still ignore mana
If we don't need mana on specific fights, I guess just swap MS to embrace, or?
POV: you had liveliness and thought you were restoring mana this whole time
Placebo effect
Yep
Was getting that GOOD mana restore from dpsing
Group is dying and I’m like stfu, I’m getting mana back
WE'RE TAKING TREE OVER CONVOKE NOW IN RAID ?
Lol why would you think that
Always was anyway
who was taking convoke ?
Most people
wheres the latest up to date guides. I just looked at the latest wowhead one
That has convoke?
wowhead
you arent looking at the latest clearly
CkGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjxMbz2MmZGzywDYmZYswMAAAAAAAAAAYbQzGjpZYMjZZmZmZYYmBAAAAAAAAbbjFMNzsMAAABswYmBzMANDAmZAAD
heres the string, no convoke
does nick from liquid hang out in here
Heres the talents
No
the export talents button is linking wrong build on WH
Oh I grabbed it from here. one of the latest articles
Is that 1 point in thriving vegetation better than embrace the dream ??
oh idk about that page
Ye
Where
The updated builds for .5 patch page?
Rip catweaving was so much more fun
we cant have nothing omg 
which icon/build though theres different areas.
I grabbed the new WS Raid one and it worked.
you can still catweave, you’re not doing 21s
This i assume https://www.wowhead.com/news/best-talent-builds-for-all-classes-in-midnight-patch-12-0-5-raid-mythic-and-381311
thats where I got mine
nvm i refreshed and it works, idk about that page where that other guy got it
What was fun about tab targeting rake , jw
wait does that mean nsrt tts is low volume too?
why is the guide saying KOTG is bis raid build when its wildstalker?
do you ever hold sotf in raid now
why can no one agree on the raid talent build lmao
Im trying to, at 19s rn
We have, it is on the talents page
Cause all the links go to different builds
Visit and read the actual guide
ok our new apex pumps
No point to really
yea but then the talent link takes you to KOTG for import
The actual guide is correct, the all classes page is incorrect
i feel really bad for you today voulk
I have a possibly stupid question, i am mesing with the new talent build and am sometimes getting instant cast wild growths and cant figure out what theya re from, does anyone know what im missing?
warmode pvp talent
definitely didn't 2 hours ago
ty!
see, im not insane. alotta weird info out there
OMIGOD THANK YOU
im hyped cuz I enjoy the WS playstyle more
Lol
literally nothing changes
Why do people think they play different
This link does not take me to KotG
more healing?
been a long day
Both are just healing
Not really any perceptible difference other than which one does more
yea
WS makes our mastery better also right ??
??????
nah
Do we need to be applying rake/rip to make WS stronger or is it stronger even without that?
if I don't do raids at all, is there any better dungeon to use the coin at?
I'm a M+ player only, pushing keys and stuff
no you dont need to do any dps to heal
No they are not connected
Does the symbiotic blooms not count to mastery?
Great, thanks guys
I believe NPX is strong but it's where ever you need to fill slots from
@gentle nova still thinking 2m conv?
ok so for m+ we take WS but not rake/rip just keep moonfire/sunfire and throw out starsurges?
o ty!
No moonfire or sunfire
Alright the compilation post should also point to the correct build now
Is nature's bounty better than putting the point in harmonius blooming? Considering more mastery stacks on LB would increase the bloom healing which in turn increases it's aoe healing?
yes NB is huge
HB is poo
HB drs very badly
I see I see. Thanks
i hate it here
Very confused with moonkin dps, fluid form "only" works on wrath starfire but usually we "open" with sunfire/moonfire no? or do we just ignore the 10% and have those 2 always up and only go moonkin to cast wrath/starfire?
dont go moonkin at all
Dont touch moonfire sunfire
dont take fluid form
you don't want fluid form. use that point on something good
wow everbloom was my #1 heal at 21%
i copied rank1 build and been trying to use it all day, damn
anyone have all their mouseover macros stop working on party and raid frames but work on unit frames?
i got a myth emberwing feather and a hero heart of wind today and qe live is still telling me that neither of them are better than this
I assume the reason behind no Sunfire or moon is stuff doesn't last long enough for that DPS vs just Starfire a big pack...
Wdym rank 1 build
Patch has been out for all of 2 hours
They are just bad damage
from what he was using past week, rank 1 in archon ig
And turning into moonkin is bad bc it doesn't boost the DMG much and there is something better than fluid form?
because i tought it would be the same talents dps wise
I’m looking at top druids on IO who did keys today and they all run moonkin
Just hours ago
Our dps literally just got reworked
moonkin form just low damage/not worth the gcd, you get a mastery buff from swapping and lose 6% haste
You take the talent, yes
The guide build also takes that talent
But we don’t use it?
is it a bad idea to go double swiftment over vi for m+?
It just isn't a meaningful DPS increase so you dont really use it
anyone else use text to speech for anything and have it stupidly quiet now?
Which one?
No that's fine
Wowhead or icy veins
ooof
is the capstone worht taking in raid now for mythic?
❤️ ty voulk
man, tell ya what
yes its everyone
Yes
argh, ty
So what’s the reason WS would be better than KOTG for healing through put in raid with the new changes?
big blooms
You always wanted it in m+
i meant for mythic raid
NGL I said the same thing
Yes it got absurdly buffed
I think a lot of people are going to swap yes
Sorry I might be misunderstanding, do we use moonkin form for dps? I thought it lowers our haste?
We do not
No you do not
It's a very small DPS increase but it costs you either a T3 talent point (fluid form) or a GCD
So 
So what do we use for t3?
DPS guide from face
#resto message
The talents in the build
Heart and innervate?
No innervate
Its pretty much nothing, we heal more with new apex in all situations
look at the guide
Since they splash onto primary target too now
okay so it is WS for raids? or kotg? because wowhead still says kotg
Is the Lifebloom Alert addon's volume busted? Any fix?
Wowhead says WS
Sorry I haven’t seen the updated guide. Wowhead?
its all TTS in wow. something on blizz end
Yes
Yes or Icy Veins
people see best next to kotg on wowhead but dont read right under that where it says WS is best
No testing has happened to have a definitive answer yet
so itll be definitive by tomorrow
make sure you dont use the AH guys
surely all the raiders and keyers would be enough data
it bricks your character
The difference is not big, just run Wildstalker
Check back next week for any small optimizations
And most arent trying different builds and calculating trade offs
New apex feel as good in keys as it reads in the tooltip?
yes
@thorn plover is the lifebloom sound on your addon based off master volume? which do i increase?
all TTS in wow is same volume right now, and its nearly 0
so i cant fix it?
nope
Ohhhh, is Owlweaving back for m+? Nice!
okay ty
This new healing is fucking insane lmao
im working on a workaround, but something is bricked on blizz end with how it handles tts sound rn
i put mastervolume at 100, and turned all the effects/music down to 15 im gonna try that see if anything happens
rare hero neck, myth legs, myth Hm cape, or myth M cr weapon and recraft embellishment? QE says legs, but its close
Who is prio for symbiotic relationship in M+ and in raid?
why am i not turning intro a big tree anymore with this new raid build?
Whomever you feel deserves it
Cause trees are bad
Ew nature
Power to the smog
it appears to be controled by effects but that turns all the other sounds up as well
i liked to jump around being a broccoli
Haha I did not realize that you’re the guide author Voulk. Tyty
yeah its pretty messed up
lets hope tomorrow its better
but the everbloom did some work on chim 21% was more than my rejuvs
i have a question for the bonus rolls is it best to try to get one of the raid trinkets or use it on mythic gear from a 10 or higher
interesting the sonar noise fro the other lifebloom tracker is fine, maybe you can take a look at it purrformance and see what channel they use?
its only tts affected
ooh
You can do math to determine the expected value of each location
you cant change what channel TTS is routed through in wow
very sad only
wtf are resto druids
grid2 buggy for anyone else after patch? can't get names to display on my frames
broken as fuck apex now
i like when everbloom hits for 30k
We insulted blizz by not using their fancy new apex talent
So they shoved it down our throats :^)
blizzard insulted us by thinking it was good
im scared for next weeks nerf
I have a mythic Omission of light, a crafted weapon and a mythic chest already though it is tier from vault. I know chest tier is our off piece but was the only useable thing out of my first vault. It is worth still blowing my rerolls in Nexus or should I target other dungeons for different pieces?
dear god... WS in raid is amazing
So im late to the party and got raid in 20 min, the wow head raid wildstalker build is solid in your guys opinion?
yes
Can do some math to see expected value of each place
tyty i appreciate it
where can i find new resto talents for m+
Wowhead
wowhead
As always
would it be worth trying for a mythic heart of wind?
so should i be letting lifebloom fall off and reapply instead of extending with swiftmend?
We dont know your gear

qelive it
Nah
very basic question but are you guys just Lifeblooming your tanks in raid?
why do we not take fluid form for M+
Self
it shifts us to boomkin if we starfire
Because bird form sucks
gasp
10% increased spell damage not worth?
this is so silly from last place to 1st place on the meters today.. they are gonna nerf us 🙁
do we still lb ourselves with ws raid build?
Yes

The time of the Ents
where do we lose 6% haste
this latest tuning, they buffed everyone thats already meta, I dont get it
Lycaras teachings
Passive buff depending on form you are in
I see
They nerfed every meta healer in raid?
any way to keep frenzied regen with the new build?
mist and disc were doing good I thought
and voker
EB kinda cracked
Always as I pug all my run. Frenzied regen will save your ass in pug.
Yeah they got nerfed
are you running 4p
anyone know the 4 stage rocket booster to pull the crawth birds onto the wind elemental?
Doesn't SM LB target cause less final blooms?
is that still worth to save GCDS of hots or do we SM someone else and manually extend LB
i thgouth we were going to damage with casts now but the talents i find are similar
Wdym
We take caster talents now
Does anyone know if i can add Symbiotic Blooms to blizz ui raid frames? like we can see every other hot
Saves a lot of gcds tho
k i just dropped shoulder
I agree, im just curious which is bestnumerically
Extending your self
where do is ee those talents on wowhead? i see the same than before
Resto druid guide
AH is bricked
Yeah
@thorn plover did it break 🥺
Tried to buy shoulder enchants
