resto

[tough portal]

Conversation is part of the deal

Wdym should just shut up lmao

We were just talking mate

Social creatures and all

[dense lantern]

Misunderstood, didn't think you were in voice

I was specifically talking about those that wipe and start writing "not timed anymore gg"

[tough portal]

We were but also just we had nothing to do for 3 mins waiting for phased to log back in

[half timber]

social creatures lol

[tough portal]

Yeah yeah when they just start whining and not playing I hate it

[dense lantern]

Yeah sure, then my comment doesn't apply here soz

[flint void]

that stuff is kinda cringe on low-ish keys, you can time a +12 with 10 deaths.

[tough portal]

I dont mind a /abandon vote call but if people say no you just truck along and try yk

[thorn plover]

Timed a 16 magisters with 10 deaths last night

[fickle garden]

Resto Druid discord is fun I can never tell when people are fighting vs when people are fighting

[tough portal]

Stop letting people die to do damage mannnnn

[dense lantern]

Me and face are always fighting wym

[tough portal]

You need to fight a lot of people to move out of white name status

[thorn plover]

Man. Aug died on trash before jellyfish, and died 4 times running back before giving up and waiting for a rez

[flint void]

just pretend no one is serious and everyone is stoned off their own regrowth leaves. it is 20th of April

[spark river]

Aug is bait

spread the word

[fickle garden]

Holy paladin discord has 2 modes. Cat pic posting or telling each other to kill themselves

Druid discord feels very dynamic

[hollow pond]

I like to mix it up, did a 10MT 3 times and let 10 people die, next time 15 and then this past time 5...3 were me lmao...its all about variety and being inclusive

[thorn plover]

Lots of people playing it because it's a free key invite. A good Aug is good.

[tough portal]

That's like the boomie channel but only the 2nd part

[fickle garden]

Kekw

[mild grotto]

Hi buddys, how do you thinks abaut play whit no apex talent?

[dense lantern]

And feral is the first part

[spark river]

Im against aug until 18+

[dense lantern]

(but its dogs)

[tough portal]

[whole horizon]

aug is so free

[dense lantern]

yup, great choice

minors are a big no

[fickle garden]

So if I’m understanding the Druid apex change. It’s a 3 target cleave on blooms right?

[cosmic saffron]

what are yall doing with extra rolls this week?

[fickle garden]

Instead of splash healing

[thorn plover]

No

What

[fickle garden]

What

[thorn plover]

Can you read or

[spark river]

go away

you play paladin

[fickle garden]

Help

I’m fr

[thorn plover]

Read with your eyes

[fickle garden]

[pulsar kettle]

dont forget banning people for talking in the wrong channel

[kind star]

so is catweaving better or just caster/boomy? id prolly prefer something like caster without boomy form if its not that bad compared to catweave

[thorn plover]

Where do you see anything about 3 targets

[dense lantern]

chimaerus myth and then 2x npx

[fickle garden]

_>

ummmm

[spark river]

im doing 2x npx first

[fickle garden]

I swear I read it saying the bloom hits 3 people

[spark river]

i ll report my misery back

[thorn plover]

Read it again

[cosmic saffron]

npx for ring?

[spark river]

ring, chest, weapon

[cosmic saffron]

I see

[wise galleon]

What about ignoring vault piece, how many extra rolls does that give us? Is that worth it even more then a myth tier piece?

[dense lantern]

1

[tough portal]

Catweaving is typically preferred rn, the damage output is similar but more priority/boss damage is more useful for us to do
Next week spell damage is buffed by a LOT so catweaving will be worse. You dont need to take Moonkin form necessarily for it.

[thorn plover]

1 extra from vault

[dense lantern]

you ignore vault unless its literally what you need

[tardy topaz]

guys anyone know of a addon that can help with dispells for first mythic boss?

[tough portal]

Yeah funny situation, they went with giving practically everybody full gear 2-3 months before season end

[kind star]

appreciate the answer :3 im still getting back into resto druid so 1 less gcd for cat is better for me atm

[tough portal]

Which is interesting, I like it, but I imagine it might kill participation in the season very fast

[fickle garden]

Ok so in my defense if you combine these two statements it cleaves 3 targets in my head

[spark river]

paladins cant read

[thorn plover]

So you can't read

[tough portal]

We largely use Fluid Form so there is no 'cat gcd' atm, if you get used to using that.

[dense lantern]

I think they want to democratize loot and make mythic more accessible tbh

[spark river]

spread the word

[dense lantern]

But for that to work they should remove the mythic lockout system or smth

[tough portal]

They should remove mythic raid

I agree

[kind star]

actually true.... french brain problem invents gcd ig... x)

[fickle garden]

I’m leaving a bad yelp review on ur addon

Ur cooked

[tough portal]

Fake news

If you cant read how can you write

[wise galleon]

kek

[thorn plover]

🫪

[fickle garden]

I’ll have grok make it

[tough portal]

You're lucky you have big muscles mate

[dense lantern]

Like for me the session is basically over already. I will never pug myth drakes or higher so the only thing I need is chimera

[tough portal]

Nobody wants to fight you proper

[thorn plover]

Most big muscle people I know can't fight

[fickle garden]

Dw I’m submissive I’ll sissy slap at best

[tardy topaz]

guys anyone know of a addon that can help with dispells for first mythic boss?

[pulsar kettle]

[thorn plover]

Maybe pillow fight

[tough portal]

[dense lantern]

grid2, decursive probably

[thorn plover]

There are none, just what your raid frames show

[fickle garden]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jason-alexander-george-costanza-slap-fight-jerry-seinfeld-gif-4735568

[dense lantern]

@wise galleon did decursive work

[spark river]

i mean i can see it clearly on the default ui

[wise galleon]

i dont think it did becaused i dont know how to set it up, just grid2 with private auras

[spark river]

seems like a skill issue

[thorn plover]

I can on danders too

Idk

[shut barn]

nsrt can help show it clearer

[tough portal]

If your raid frame isnt showing the debuff at all, you're missing a private auras indicator on your addon
If you're just having a hard time cuz it has the icon but not the dispel color overlay, yeah tough luck blizzard bad

[wise galleon]

Or just activate blizzframes if you are toolazy to setup a proper raidframe thingy

[stable verge]

You wouldn’t take master shape shifter instead of liveliness ? For the mana return?

[tough portal]

but they arent doing damage mate

[thorn plover]

Ignore any builds they post

🧌

[stable verge]

🤣

[tough portal]

Alluneve is reaching Niko status without the performance

[silk ice]

Why weave when you can leave

[stable verge]

I haven’t gone OOM yet but I do dip to 50% mana on big pulls

[dense lantern]

having to drink is the equivalent of going oom

unforch

[stable verge]

So I’ve been casting wrath , star surge , starfire

[flint void]

I am doing damage

[stable verge]

To get mana back

[cosmic saffron]

what filters should I mark sir

[wise galleon]

If we play wrath/starfire tomorrow do we really need to take master shapeshifter? Is it because casting spells consumes too much mana?

[dense lantern]

(nvm blizzard should rename druid's abilities it's ridicolous)

[silk ice]

Doesn’t MS also increase damage

[flint void]

it does

[wise galleon]

But we lose on healing

[fickle garden]

Like 2% right

[thorn plover]

Having infinite mana makes you do more healing

[tough portal]

Private auras are separate from the debuff filters, idk what addon you're on

[wise galleon]

Killing faster makes you heal less..

[silk ice]

How else are you getting photo

[thorn plover]

Ya so take ms

[tardy topaz]

whats that?

[dense lantern]

The default blizzard frames

[wise galleon]

Use the standard blizzard frames I meant

[tardy topaz]

i do and cant see dispells

[stable verge]

Yes

[spark river]

You can

i use them

its a small icon

zoom in

[thorn plover]

👨‍🦯

[spark river]

the blind leading the blind

[tardy topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-jarvis-nuke-marvel-iron-man-gif-12042104779402153696

[vivid peak]

its not a "dispell" its just a debuff you can dispell

[thorn plover]

Me doing log review

[spark river]

same

[fickle garden]

Chat do we use regenerative bark skin on alleria shields

[thorn plover]

Regenesis

[fickle garden]

Oh no shit?

[thorn plover]

No

[fickle garden]

Regen has a u..

Jk

[thorn plover]

Regenerative Heartwood?

[fickle garden]

Yea that

[thorn plover]

Do the absorbs even last that long anymore

Any videos I've seen lately they just evaporate

[fickle garden]

I was thinking for mythic haven’t gotten there yet my guild gonna be on paladins this week

But I’m playing holy paladin so I’ll just get innervate and delete the shields

But thinking for our resto Druid

[spark river]

can they not think for themselves

[thorn plover]

Pally discord probably closed, so just here yappin

[fickle garden]

[thorn plover]

Lol

[stable verge]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-dance-celebrate-rave-edm-gif-5362007

[fickle garden]

I’m waiting for my sick cats life saving medication in my car actually

[livid hearth]

Ok so if new guides are coming tomorrow there is no point in reading rotation guide. It will be balance rotation than catweaving then

[fickle garden]

Hope u feel bad now

[fickle garden]

That’s a lot of words

[thorn plover]

@livid hearth

[spark river]

you cant read anyway

[fickle garden]

It scured me

[spark river]

torty is streaming bird prog

[livid hearth]

ty, im asking because im asking the if talented parts. The best expected talent, is it wildstalker or keeper of the grove? Also is master shapeshifter taken or not?

[spark river]

for those interested

[thorn plover]

It will be wildstalker still for m+

Unless you're going straight for damage over healing

Then keeper pulls ahead

[livid hearth]

Oh i thought keeper was the healing talent as in raid u take keeper for healer focused build i thought

[thorn plover]

Wildstalker does more healing in small groups, always

[fickle garden]

Damn I wanted my AI moonfire spamming trees

Can we get cat and bear summons

For bleeds

[thorn plover]

I'm playing keeper

🤷‍♂️

[fickle garden]

Does keeper still give better hot uptime

[livid hearth]

ah ok ty. gonna log in and read the talents

[fickle garden]

With those mini tranqs

[thorn plover]

The tranqs don't extend hots

[fickle garden]

Awe bummer

Do the convoke ones still?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[fickle garden]

Nice

[kind star]

ill be playing whatevers on the wowhead m+ section...

[livid hearth]

i was reading the wowhead guide and they said convoke procced tranqs gonna extend the hots or something

maybe im misremembering or misunderstood?

[thorn plover]

Yes they do

[livid hearth]

extend like 1-2 seconds for the short duration it procced

[thorn plover]

If you're talented into flourish

1 tick worth from convoke tranq

[livid hearth]

maybe the other guy was asking about that?

[thorn plover]

No he was asking about different tranq

From keeper talents

[livid hearth]

ah ok

how often do resto use its convoke offensively? Ive only lvled my druid to lvl 80 so im gonna pick it up again now my main is geared

i used convoke offensively a lot during lvling but i know m+ is far more dangerous, do i sometimes use convoke offensively or is it kinda defensive only cooldown?

[spark river]

If you dont expect damage in the next minute, you would use it offensively

[thorn plover]

Casting it in boomie isn't worth it at all idt

[livid hearth]

oh rly? ok

[thorn plover]

You're better off casting Starfire than convoke

[tough portal]

Treat it as a healing cd

Even in the case of it being a damage gain, healing through moderate damage with a major cd that covers it all in 3s is better than casting 5 or 6 heals manually

[livid hearth]

times change, or pve is different. I remember when convoke first came out boomies oneshot me in pvp all the time with convoke if i didnt cc/kick it instantly

[livid hearth]

i see ty

[thorn plover]

I'm sure it's worth for boomie, not resto in boomie form

[spark river]

dorki: prehot->swiftmend rejuvs->doc-> swiftmend rejuvs

doc truthers

[livid hearth]

oh yeah haha 2 differnet things

[spark river]

we got a rotation

[livid hearth]

whats doc

[thorn plover]

Meme build

Dream of cenarius

[tough portal]

Bad way to use DOC

No balls to go full meme

[fickle garden]

Would we actually talent into boomkin form to cast or just stay caster

[spark river]

stay caster

[fickle garden]

Ok bless

[livid hearth]

just asking , in my head i would just put my first rejuv and then instantly swiftmend to get its cd start rolling as well as get 2 rejuv at once to prehot faster. Is it how u guys do it too or am i just theoritizing wasting my swiftmend?

[night lance]

I have a question about raid healing, I see a lot of the best logs are playing convoke over tree form and some are playing wildstalker too, can someone explain the differences, like what's the benefits to play convoke over tree or wildstalker over keeper?

[daring sparrow]

is there any prio dungeons for bonus rolls?

[spark river]

npx

[rustic copper]

You should always hit lifebloom and 2 rejuvs with vi, if you didn’t have those hots up already when you wanted to cast swiftmend it’s a planning mistake

[livid hearth]

whats vi?

[spark river]

Verdant infusion

[livid hearth]

I was just thinking how to maximize pre-hotting, not rly a situation i came upon. Im thinking after first rejuv swiftmend is avaliable i thought

[spark river]

Its a talent that extends hot duration when you swiftmend

[livid hearth]

ah ok

so i can extend all 3 hots on

[spark river]

Yes, you would extend all 3 on that person you swiftmend

[livid hearth]

ok then pre-hotting could be lifebloom and 2 rejuv on tank, swiftmend and start hotting other players? xD

[daring sparrow]

yea I was thinking this is the best dungeon it seems

[spark river]

Im doing 2x npx first week and hope for the best

[daring sparrow]

after we get 289 weapon is 2x acrane the only play?

[kind star]

I miss being able to have lb on myself and whoever took dmg

[daring sparrow]

yea had the same idea 😄

[livid hearth]

ok i remember why i thought i would wanna swiftmend after 1 rejuv. Because guide said:
Keep Efflorescence active at all times. If you are running Lifetreading (and the default build does) then keeping Lifebloom up does this for you.

Keep Lifebloom up at all times. This is crucial and Lifebloom will make up a lot of your dungeon healing via our Apex, Everbloom. Refresh]

Cast Swiftmend on cooldown.

So in my head on cooldown means use it asap. So first rejuv make me be able to swiftmend so i should use it asap

[celest zinc]

Hello good restodruids.

Give me a couple pointers for +10 and higher keys.

I have 279 ilvl gear and I had an awful experience in a +10 key.

How do we pump great HPS numbers when need be?

[spark river]

You dont pump hps in a 10

10s have barely any damage

[tough portal]

Great very helpful sola

[spark river]

I mean

You would say the same

Lets be real

[daring sparrow]

xd

[celest zinc]

My +10 we kept dying nonstop and I was in full panic all the time.

[daring sparrow]

why were you dying?

[proven phoenix]

what were people dying to

[kind star]

really curious to check the scaling once I get into M+ to compare them to last time I played in sland

[proven phoenix]

the spec has an absurd amount of healing, esp in a 10

you can kinda heal through anything

[spark river]

especially at that ilvl

[celest zinc]

I was so overwhelmed by thw incoming damage, I couldnt tell you.
I had everything rolling. Tried my best to keep rejus up and evrything on cd

[gleaming spoke]

1. If there's nothing to heal, don't use it, youre petter off casting damage.
2. Lifebloom has to be active or swiftmend healing through the apex talent doesn't work.
3. It's the consumption of SotForest that causes the bloom healing, so I consume that to either heal big (Regrowth) or spread hots for incoming damage (Rejuvenation/Germination).

Generally speaking, though, it is a huge throughput talent and can be used to spread hots or heal large amounts of damage on your lifebloom or other groupmates that are taking damage after a large AE mechanic and should use it often as it's incredibly efficient.

[proven phoenix]

I think you either didnt have have everything up or you didnt use cds

there is no other explanation for not being able to heal a 10

[spark river]

Which pull were you doing

[proven phoenix]

unless your gear was broken

[spark river]

Give us something concrete

[proven radish]

A lot of the times I encounter extreme damage, its because people aren't getting important interrupts

[celest zinc]

It was the entire dungeon magi+10, started from first pack.

[proven phoenix]

magisters is one of the harder dungeons to heal

but still

[stable verge]

No dispell?

[celest zinc]

Especially last boss, last boss took like 7 attempts to down. Mostly because I couldnt keep our team alive

[hollow barn]

hey y'all im sure im incredibly late to the party/this question but pls forgive me: i peeked at the patch changes tomorow that are increasing wrath/starfire/etc. damage. is caster dps for resto going to be viable again with this patch and if so, are there any tentative builds that have been shared here for it that i missed?

[spark river]

yes builds will be shared soon

Check wowhead tomorrow

[hollow barn]

yaaaaaaaaay 🙏 thank you! so excited to be able to do caster dps again (personal pref)

appreciate it, ty!

[past tusk]

Will the new builds switch from liveliness to master shapeshifter for m+?

[proven phoenix]

do you have a log

[forest citrus]

Damage buffs enough to not be cat anymore?

[proven phoenix]

its really hard to help like this

we dont have any information

[spark river]

Just having hots out and regrowthing your group should be enough

[celest zinc]

I will record a magi+10 run tomorrow and ask for advice. I realize I should have come with more data for analysis

[spark river]

I really dont know what other advice to give here

[opaque roost]

sounds like his team was not catching the balls

[sand island]

maybe u missed soaks?

[cursive pagoda]

how is mana on resto rn

easy to deal with in keys?

[spark river]

It could be yeah, but he said it was the whole dungeon

[celest zinc]

I thought my gear would carry me trying to heal a +10, but I was humbled

[spark river]

mana is really good in m+

[hollow barn]

ive never gone oom surprisingly in m+ but i only do up to about +11s so im not pushing terribly high

[celest zinc]

Who do you typically keep lifebloom on? The tank? Urself?

[spark river]

People are not going oom on high keys

Its in a very good spot

[cursive pagoda]

nice ty

[cursive pagoda]

pretty sure its the tank but i shouldnt answer this question lol

[daring sparrow]

I always end up low mana after 2nd boss in seat xd

[spark river]

Its either tank or the dps that needs healing

But its tank most of the time

[cursive pagoda]

do you find yourself swapping or are there other heals you get out on a low dps

[stable verge]

Verdant infusion vs prosperity?

[cursive pagoda]

like swapping the lifebloom i mean

[spark river]

vi

[stable verge]

Ty

[naive chasm]

are the weapon embellishments worth more than the small reduction in ilvl from crafted gear with myth crests vs myth 6/6 raid/dungeon gear?

[spark river]

Heals are enough in most cases

[tough portal]

Not for random spothealing, but yes for predictable mechanics

[tough portal]

Prosperity

[cursive pagoda]

i see

[spark river]

blasphemy

[cursive pagoda]

do you just rejuv swiftmend or regrowth a dps?

[stable verge]

Interesting

[tough portal]

Low swiftmend casts user

[spark river]

wdym low swiftmend casts

[cursive pagoda]

im assuming swiftmend is the most reliable way to burst heal a single target right?

[spark river]

you swiftmend rejuv in most cases

[proven phoenix]

no, the regrowth after the swiftmend is

[cursive pagoda]

or rather soul of the forest*

[thorn plover]

Not the swiftmend itself

[cursive pagoda]

ah yeah

[spark river]

sw regrowth is for huge group heal

[cursive pagoda]

does it feel like a big cloud sheiluns gift?

[fringe rain]

so this is probably going to be a stupid question but can my treants taunt off the tank during a key?? Just tried to do a 12 mc and the monk tank was bitching at me apparently for that.

[cursive pagoda]

if youre familiar with mw

[spark river]

@thorn whale need your input here

but yeah its a big heal

on the group

[tough portal]

You have half the swiftmend CPM that I do in keys

[grand herald]

Yes

[thorn whale]

Yes

[spark river]

you re eating hots

for lunch

[fringe rain]

so do use them back to back???

[tough portal]

And creating 2x as many SOTF hots?!

[thorn whale]

altso wtf is this class

[cursive pagoda]

wow nice, would you say a bit less or more of a burst heal?

because sheiluns is pretty dang reliable

[grand herald]

No

[cursive pagoda]

how would a soul regrowth compare

[thorn whale]

If you have hots on your group, it's like a lay on hands on 2 people

[cursive pagoda]

wow

[tough portal]

They're delicious mate

[thorn whale]

NS + SM + RG

[spark river]

Im sure they are

[thorn whale]

Insta tops a team

[cursive pagoda]

i was worried resto would rely so much on hots and not have much burst, thats super nice tbh

[spark river]

I prefer my extensions

[tough portal]

This is a crazy casts breakdown 8k dps looking ass

[spark river]

As do other people

[thorn whale]

Nah we have a lot of burst

[tough portal]

I will not tolerate this VI propaganda mate you dont even press Swiftmend

[cursive pagoda]

do you guys like to go wildstalker or keeper btw

seems like wildstalker goes super well with cat

[stable verge]

What if I need to burst that target back up ?

[thorn whale]

Wildstalker is more for healing

[tough portal]

Prosperity is simply better, dont believe the VI lies

[thorn whale]

It's not about dps

raid break over

gl

[tough portal]

Both add similar DPS if you're catweaving
KOTG adds more DPS if you're spamming Starfire only
But WS is better healing in any M+ situation and possibly gonna be the play in raid next patch too

[spark river]

The 3 druids playing prosperity really appreciate their 2nd sotf buff

[stable verge]

Do I need to cast a rejuv right after swift?

[gaunt willow]

Prosp for M+ always. Not so sure about VI vs Prop for raid yet..

[tough portal]

You play twin sprouts too?

Wisdom of the masses innit

[spark river]

No

[tough portal]

Why not

99% of the top 200 are twin sprouts

[pulsar kettle]

[tough portal]

I thought they were the gospels?!

2.5 Swiftmend CPM is crazy bro

[spark river]

Yeah I dont spam full hp bars

What about it

[tough portal]

What do you press then?

You arent doing any damage either

[proven phoenix]

I play VI and twin sprouts...

[tough portal]

Implant is the biggest % gain talent of any resto talent

[proven phoenix]

hmm

[tough portal]

2nd I guess, Efflo is #1

[proven phoenix]

do I have to change my m+ build for reset

should be the same surely

[silk hamlet]

Hi All, can someone share dander frames good profile for raid set-up. Thank you All! 🙂

[glass crane]

ok we did 32k in pit 19 with kotg

fat 9th% healing parse but whatever

[thorn plover]

K but real, how did healing feel to you? I've been running it in 17s and it feels super good

Really doesn't feel 10% behind WS

[glass crane]

kotg feels noticeably weaker, like it's not unplayable but def feels like my guys rot out faster than they should

garfrost on 19 shouldn't be sweaty but I was def uncomfortable the whole time

[thorn plover]

Good to know. I didn't find it bad but big step from 17 to 19

[spark river]

now play doc

[thorn plover]

Not sure doc is prog key worthy

Yet

[cursive pagoda]

oh wow ok

[cursive pagoda]

ws sounds smoother to play tbh

[thorn plover]

They play identically

[cursive pagoda]

well i mean you dont ever need to touch starfire on WS right?

oh did you mean moonfire?

[thorn plover]

No you will still do caster spells as either hero tree

If you want to do max damage

(starting tomorrow)

[kind star]

well been great lurking here today at work realise abunch of my mistakes, only leveling tho just bought it yday.

[cursive pagoda]

oh i see

[kind star]

cba to keep playing mop my last 2 guilds died to roster boss, time to commit to retail and soooome tbc.

[sweet wadi]

Hi. Can Convoke's CD be shorter than 1 min? I'm seeing logs with casts 50 sec apart.

[cursive pagoda]

how do you guys like to use fluid form? trying to figure out how id use it in practice

[fervent mica]

sort of. control of the dream can swing the cd by 15 seconds

[kind star]

I mean usually I never have feral spell on my main bar and its in my catform bar but now I just add them on my main bar for 'smoother' dps and stuff

[sweet wadi]

thank you

[cursive pagoda]

hmm, yeah i might add rake to my mainbar

[kind star]

ive been using swipe too much and not putting bleeds up asap tho yikes

[sand spruce]

hey any chance we know how much of a buff the new apex changes are gonna be for 12.0.5?

[gleaming spoke]

Cenarius' Guidance talent reduces it by 1 min.

[cursive pagoda]

im trying to figure out how you go about doing damage in cat form

do you want to rip most of the time to get it up?

you get combo points so slowly that its quite the commitment

[tough portal]

There's a damage rotation link in the #1463264793854083204 channel

[haughty ibex]

is there a way to sim on qelive diff talents? 😔

[main timber]

Not on the front end

Some specs have some choice talent selectors

[thorn plover]

Voulk did you do any testing on the 6 splash of the apex? On the PTR it looked like if less than 6 targets in range it was hitting one target twice

[haughty ibex]

where can i see this? sorry im blind

[thorn plover]

I guess we see tomorrow, but cant imagine that's intended

[main timber]

Druid does not have one to be clear

[haughty ibex]

oh okay then makes sense

[main timber]

I can log in and re-check in a bit. I didn't see that behavior when I was testing last but this is so annoying to test with what little is active on PTR

[thorn plover]

Yeah I was struggling to test it reliably

Idk why they disabled everything, seems super weird

[main timber]

I guess we can just test it on live tomorrow since it wouldn't change much

Would be a nice buff of course but shouldn't change anything in the guide otherwise

[cursive pagoda]

ok cat weaving seems complex but neat

is it rewarding?

or is the damage just too low rn for it to be that impactful

[spark river]

No lmao

[main timber]

It's extremely fun, but also not really worth it from tomorrow

[spark river]

Its not that complex tbh

[cursive pagoda]

is it getting nerfed?

[main timber]

Caster spells are getting buffed

[spark river]

No its just not enough damage

[cursive pagoda]

i feel like id rather cat weave

[spark river]

And caster is getting a buff

[cursive pagoda]

so you guys are going moonkin?

[spark river]

Yes

[main timber]

I wouldn't call it Moonkin since you don't really use that, but caster spells yes

[spark river]

We play whats most optimal

[cursive pagoda]

oh you dont go into moonkin form?

[spark river]

No you lose haste

[forest abyss]

how do you use on use stat sticks in raid? do you macro it to some ability or just manually use them?

[cursive pagoda]

so you just stay perma formless?

kinda lame 🙁

[proven phoenix]

depends on the item, something like vaelgors you can use it on tranq, on cd between tranq

[unkempt root]

With 12.0.5 changes I assume this is on all blooms, just not just the final bloom? "Everbloom (Rank 2) has been redesigned – When Lifebloom's final bloom occurs, it heals 6 allies within 40 yards for 25%/50% of its healing amount"

[forest abyss]

i mean emberwing feather (haste every 2 min) personally

[waxen ingot]

is gameplay the same WS and KOTG in raid?

[proven phoenix]

emberwing feather I'd use on ramp

before tranq

[grand herald]

yes its all blooms

[forest abyss]

mmkay

[cursive pagoda]

oh thats insane wtf

[unkempt root]

Thanks!!

[cursive pagoda]

is this the reason wildstalker is so good, or is it the symbiotic bloom healing itself

[cobalt gust]

hello wierd qustion: seems like incarn form breaks obelisk on alleria when incarn ends so is it worth change reforestation away or try just deal with it?

[thorn plover]

It breaks it? I've never noticed that

[weak crypt]

shapeshift fucks with the aim

found out the hard way

[tough portal]

Yeah wildstalker is quite good

Well all of it together yeah?

You cant just pick 1 thing in it

It's a full package choice

[cobalt gust]

ye im not sure if that is 100% at time but arrows stop moving if incarn end same time you get obelisk

[cobalt gust]

oh its that too

[thorn plover]

Interesting

[weak crypt]

you can still see the arrows but theyre like inside your character instead, and the add still lights up when its aimed correctly

[thorn plover]

Eh not playing refo after today anyways 😏

[opaque frost]

How does one set up danders to show symbiotic blooms?

[thorn plover]

Aura designer

[stiff ruin]

Is there anything that can alert us when a mob is casting an ability in a dungeon?

[thorn plover]

You can see targeted cast bars, but nothing on frames, no sounds, etc

[stiff ruin]

i was hoping for just like an alert but i see

so weird that it allows this for boss abilities, but not mobs

[rustic copper]

Easy solution, stop running tree

[cursive pagoda]

yeah its cool

btw what does the flower effect on the ground come from on resto druids?

[thorn plover]

Welcome to Midnight

[cursive pagoda]

is it literally just from the barkskin talent on WS?

[thorn plover]

Lifebloom

[cobalt gust]

but good stuff it brings

[cursive pagoda]

like the petals

[rustic copper]

No but no apex tree plays very different than apex convoke and ws plays convoke

[cursive pagoda]

not the efflorescence

[thorn plover]

Could be the glyph for dash?

Lifebloom blooming makes a big flower

[cursive pagoda]

tbh i thought symbiotic blooms made the flowery effect

[harsh quail]

it is flowerwalk that conjures little flowers

[fervent mica]

its barkskin with talent... yeah?

[thorn plover]

Idk what sym blooms look like if anything

[tawdry isle]

Barkskin does that too

[cursive pagoda]

yeah i saw it so often so i kinda thought it was a healing effect

i kinda wish that was what symbiotic blooms looked like lol

[cursive pagoda]

yeah its that, just tested

i like that effect, wish it was on something more core to the class

[thorn plover]

I just wish I could be in tree form. There should be a glyph for fluid form that makes rejuv regrowth put you in tree form

[cursive pagoda]

you like being a tree?

[thorn plover]

Old tree, not incarn tree

[cursive pagoda]

i just like to see my transmog

[fervent mica]

waddle waddle

[waxen ingot]

whats the diff in gameplaz

[thorn plover]

I suggest it every PTR cycle but it never happens

[rustic copper]

Tree is forced to press a lot of wg, forced to take ms, play around reforest, mobile

Convoke can send sm off cd, press more regrowth, spend less mana

[cursive pagoda]

what does it look like?

[fervent mica]

a treant

[thorn plover]

You can go in it now with a glyph

But it costs a global

And gives you nothing

[unique sedge]

Still progging mythic crown and i feel like im doing no healing, playing with hpal mw and disc

[cursive pagoda]

thats what i thought incarn was

wtf is incarn then

[silk ice]

Fluid form should transform you into that when you cast a healing spell

[proven phoenix]

incarn is a much bigger and much more stupid looking tree

[silk ice]

Broccoli form

[rustic copper]

Did you check logs

Healing to absorbs is doubled in game

[unique sedge]

Also metter

The numbers are the same

[main timber]

They aren't the same

[rustic copper]

They are not even close

[thorn plover]

Literally what I typed 10 lines up

[unique sedge]

I still average green on logs

[silk ice]

Great minds think alike and fools seldom differ

[thorn plover]

🤝

[silk ice]

🤝

[thorn plover]

Damn that's a long maint tomorrow

[waxen ingot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vLCDByz4Wg9rkbXY?fight=22&type=healing&source=235

Any feedback :)?

[cursive pagoda]

do you guys find yourself ever using convoke in cat form? feel like id rather have it for healing

[waxen ingot]

i do

but its not needed

and its only when u feel like u can

but dont stress it

[thorn plover]

What's cat form

[rustic copper]

Not enough regrowth

[urban bone]

Friendship with cat form OVER

[rustic copper]

What’s the sotf usage

[tough portal]

Convoke is a massive healing cd so yeah treat it like a heal first

[cursive pagoda]

i heard a tip from someone that you can swiftmend + natures swiftness before a convoke and it will be empowered by it

do i want to be doing that? sounds super nice

[rustic copper]

Do not swiftmend first

[cursive pagoda]

ah why not?

[rustic copper]

It consumes the buff, doesn’t proc apex and might override the buff

NS does not consume the buff

[fervent mica]

supposedly ns also doesn't work anymore...

[grand herald]

this was fixed?

[rustic copper]

Source?

Ig I should ask when

[spark river]

Jb said it

[rustic copper]

.5 it stops working or on live?

[spark river]

No clue if someone checked

[fervent mica]

like a week ago purr and someone else were talking about it. will go search chat

[rustic copper]

Ok so fake

[cursive pagoda]

so the NS is a thing though

the entire convoke benefits from it?

[spark river]

Regrowths from convoke

Yes

[cursive pagoda]

that sounds insane since theyre both 1 min

should i macro it?

[spark river]

They used to at least

[grand herald]

well, as we were just saying, it might be fixed

[cursive pagoda]

oh was it for sure unintended?

[grand herald]

i mean

[cursive pagoda]

how long was it working like this for?

[grand herald]

intention or not

someone tested it

[rustic copper]

There’s no way that was intended

[grand herald]

and it wasnt working anymore

[rustic copper]

Years

[glass crane]

??

put money on it

[rustic copper]

[torpid wraith]

Im kinda confused on what to listen to for the talent builds on the method website and icyveins. Method recommends no apex talents as the best raid build, while icy veins recommends the apex talents as the best raid build. What should I do to figure out which one is better?

[cursive pagoda]

what are the chances they fixed it just as i start picking up the class lol

is it a pretty bad nerf or is it fine?

[wary belfry]

Just play apex talents

[grand herald]

both are pretty similar today, but apex build is better tomorrow

[main timber]

All guides are changing in 1 day so just check back then

[grand herald]

and we will have new builds

[rustic copper]

It’s tiny and we’re getting major buff in 1 day

[cursive pagoda]

oh ok

assumed it would make convoke a shit ton stronger in terms of healing'

[grand herald]

its a lot of overhealing

often times

[cursive pagoda]

is it for sure fixed?

[spark river]

Put money on it

As the bald man would say

[main timber]

Remember it only buffed Regrowths in Convoke which is a small percentage of its overall healing

[rustic copper]

Need a 2nd opinion

To test it

Before I change my macro

[grand herald]

you test it

[lapis grove]

hello, this guy heal as moonkin? is top world AA dungeon

[rustic copper]

I’m not home

[grand herald]

dang

[cursive pagoda]

whats the majority of convokes healing

also how does it target those heals

[harsh quail]

no he is still healing as resto

[fervent mica]

dart board style

[spark river]

And hes 62nd

[cursive pagoda]

ah, its just so much healing that it works though?

[lapis grove]

but u can heal with moonkin form right?

[rustic copper]

[main timber]

You can cast regrowth as moonkin but that's it

You can't do a full healing rotation that way

[lapis grove]

so that talent is for sunfire

[plain steeple]

Bonus swiftmend heal over RH, no ND and actually HB over photo.
Talenting boomy form, but you wanna shapeshift into ToL all the time - or out of it.
That’s one of funniest troll specs I have seen lately.

[cursive pilot]

Go dream and heal as moon kin

[main timber]

I doubt they used Moonkin Form though since they don't have Fluid Form

Just took it for pathing

[spark river]

The players playing this dont use moonkin form

Only troll is no photo

Hb build is the most popular build in high m+

[cyan minnow]

HB over photo

[plain steeple]

To sunfire

[spark river]

But you take nb off

[lapis grove]

well, all top world (keep of the grove) use that troll talent

maybe they know something

[pulsar kettle]

[fervent mica]

they know that they don't need to have any talents to complete keys... so why not troll

[main timber]

I dont even know what talent you are talking about specifically

It's fine to take Sunfire and the builds next week will take it by default

[harsh quail]

love the vi prosp diff in that screen, gotta be a discussion for the ages

[main timber]

Moonkin Form is a bit useless but it's a pathing node

Certainly nobody is healing the key in moonkin form like you suggested

[spark river]

Sunfire is taken just for some pad

[main timber]

You have to move sometimes

[cursive pagoda]

whats the use case of wild growth btw

[spark river]

They basically sunfire into bear thrash and do normal cat rotation

[cursive pagoda]

when do i cast that

[grand herald]

healing, in an aoe

[cursive pagoda]

i just dont know its prio compared to other spells

like swiftmend into rejuv/regrowth

[grand herald]

in raid id just use on cd pretty much

[proven phoenix]

the use case of wg is that it does a lot of healing

[main timber]

Have you read through a rotation page?

[proven phoenix]

to a lot of targets

[cursive pagoda]

ill do that rn

[main timber]

WG is just a good AoE healing button

[cursive pagoda]

was in the middle of leveling so i never looked at it, getting close to max so i guess i should now

[cursive pagoda]

should i be maintaining it all the time in fights?

doesnt seem to last long so idk

[grand herald]

raid or m+?

[cursive pagoda]

m+

dont plan to raid heal

[grand herald]

cast before an aoe damage event for mastery stacks and extra healing

its not bursty, so its often a bad cast if people are dying

[cursive pagoda]

i see, its one of those things you want to have out beforehand

[grand herald]

like most of our stuff, yeah

[cursive pagoda]

is there an easy way to get germination on many people?

or is it something thats relagated mainly to just your tank

soul of the forest puts 3 on allies but its a 15 second cd on swiftmend

[lapis grove]

people is using starfire, I thought it wasn't used

[grand herald]

casting rejuv?

[ocean sinew]

sotf and haste 😄

[lapis grove]

damage > mana prio in highest keys maybe

[grand herald]

but only spread germs if the damage event needs it

[cursive pagoda]

ah lots of haste is ideal i bet

[cursive pagoda]

otherwise just try to maintain the rejuv on people with soul of the forest?

[tough portal]

It's pretty random, but it does seem to have some sort of prioritization on low HP targets

I'm not sure if Voulk ever had any data analysis in bulk for that

[cursive pagoda]

oh thats nice

[tough portal]

But yeah it's just a ton of healing

In a 5-man group it cant split up too uselessly

[ocean sinew]

get something to track stacks of abundance and keep it around 8-10 in m+ and then regrowth them

[main timber]

Don't maintain X rejuvs, that is so unnecessary

[grand herald]

yeah we dont maintain abundance in M+

[ocean sinew]

if youre pugging it just makes it easy to catweave

[main timber]

Other way around, you just wasted half of your potential DPS GCDs on rejuvs you might not even need

Better to play efficiently and just spread them with SotF during lower healing periods

[hardy canopy]

jb playing kotg tol in 20s 💀

are they 20 resil already or

[tough portal]

Well you just look at it as doing healing that is needed
Some pulls you go into knowing you'll need to heal a lot because you know the dungeons
Like start of Seat, or the room before 3rd boss there as well
Some pulls you dont, and maintaining token Rejuvs just because is a waste of time

[cyan minnow]

so does NS get consumed by convoke now? or does it just not buff regrowths in convoke?

[cursive pagoda]

ok, gonna make something rn

[tough portal]

Yeah there is some low maintenance healing you can keep up for peace of mind like Voulk said, cast Wild Growth often to keep a hot up for Swiftmend, maintain Lifebloom, Swiftmend + SOTF Rejuv is all very efficient healing

[fervent mica]

supposedly it doesn't buff anymore, but who knows

[cursive pagoda]

is there an ammount of stacks i want to be at at most times

[ocean sinew]

listen 2 them tbh they are way more knowledgable

[grand herald]

no

[cursive pagoda]

like a threshold

[grand herald]

the other guy was wrong

[tough portal]

0 if you have nothing to heal

2 if you are healing a single target damage only

[cursive pagoda]

ah ok

seems like the most important thing is knowing when damage is coming

[grand herald]

yes

[cursive pagoda]

does lifebloom top off minor damage on allies pretty well

[tough portal]

I wouldn't think about Abundance in M+, it just exists and it does good things. If you're prepping to heal a major damage event like the Flare damage amp on that Xenas boss, you'll want to put up lots of Rejuvs, Abundance doesnt need to play into the decision making

[cursive pagoda]

i assume it will even more with the buffs to the apex

[grand herald]

depends what you mean by minor, LB alone is mainly st healing, them standing in efflo will do some healing

[tough portal]

For that type of minor damage, these things can cover a lot #resto message

[cursive pagoda]

like 5-10% missing health range

[stable verge]

Depending on key level, yes. Don't switch LB target every second though

[cursive pagoda]

yeah i want to maintain in on my tank most of the time right?

[stable verge]

Most times yeah

[grand herald]

whoever is taking damage and needs healing

which is often the tank

[cursive pagoda]

sorry im having a bit of trouble reading the answers in chat, ty for all the help though lol

[tough portal]

Yeah you'll pick up as you go through key levels what situations you want to swap for a mechanic or keep it on DPS on certain bosses

[grizzled seal]

@bright swift why are you watching a disc priest instead of me

traitor

[rare marsh]

hey, i want to say thanks to you guys for your tips yesterday, ich checked out logs, changed ui and implemented the Lifebloom Addon @grand herald

its sooo much better, thank you ❤️

[tough portal]

[bright swift]

Just better personality streamer

[grizzled seal]

crazy

[tough portal]

HAHAHAHA

[grizzled seal]

he aint wrong

[cursive pagoda]

you all are so much nicer than the people in the balance channel 😅

[stable verge]

I'd be pissed too if I had to be a chicken 24/7

[cursive pagoda]

lol

[grand herald]

you came in here on a good day :^)

[torpid wraith]

Ok cool thank you

[weary wasp]

Do the changes to everbloom change anything or pretty much a wash?

[grand herald]

its a huge buff

[high mountain]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cymjPBfkFW8Ggp3h?fight=last&type=healing
wtf am i doing wrong dude, am i just shit at the game ?

[weary wasp]

Like not taking apex in raid doesn't make sense anymore huge?

[grand herald]

yes

we may even go WS

just to buff the everbloom healing

that huge

[haughty rose]

@haughty ibex https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7rXdFhHVMzJ3BGaP i think this log is better from my POV. The Seat dng really grated me that team was crazy

[waxen ingot]

Where do you pot on crown?

30 sec and P3 ?

[empty agate]

i was not on crown prog but i guess 1 raid evening is all i needed

@proven phoenix u were right i did not have to focus on heal absorb at all but still ended 2nd heal on them

[tough portal]

Phased is the lebron james of resto druid dont forget this

[haughty ibex]

i think is private i cant see sorry

[empty agate]

this discord has so many goats

i cant even name them all

best spec discord surely

[spark river]

holy glaze

[empty agate]

i would never be where i am without the people here

[main timber]

We don't get compliments all that often, we will be taking this one

[proven phoenix]

WE didnt get a compliment lil gup

I did

[proven phoenix]

im glad

gz on the kill

[opal jungle]

What we using to track party defensive cds

[pulsar kettle]

minicc

broken tommorow i think

[real carbon]

Fellow Druids, what's the best spec for raiding looking like atm on this upcoming patch?

[cosmic saffron]

prob apex

the number people are gonna bless us with updat4ed builds tomorrow

[real carbon]

#Bless

I remember reading Apex Wildstalker even

[cursive pagoda]

what are some of the biggest buffs to track

[haughty rose]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RNm6vh9rYz7jxcDA

[cursive pagoda]

i have things like soul of the forest showing as proc glows on regrowth/rejuv

[opal jungle]

How are you getting mana bar like that?

[cursive pagoda]

what you see here is all ellesmere ui

[opal jungle]

O

[fervent mica]

personal resource display

[cursive pagoda]

the bars on my unit frame are from harreks advanced raid frames though, tracks all my hots for party frames and unit frames

most people track hots with icons, i kinda like bars. the top green is rejuv and top purple is germ

bottom green is lifebloom

[tough portal]

Shift E for Rejuv is a keybind

[slow flint]

Hi guys, im sorry to post this here but I don't find any answer online. I can see that some players have every enemies castbar grouped on their UI (like a bigwigs display). Do you know how I can setup this? Which addon is used? I think it could be Plater, but I'm not sure

[kind star]

shift e rejuv but 4 for convoke smh 😛

[weak crypt]

druid players in general have some of the worst keybinds ive ever seen

[cursive pagoda]

these are both easy binds for me

whats wrong with shift e lol

[thorn plover]

Danders can do this, or Mythic Dungeon Casts, or Targeted Spells

[cursive pagoda]

e is regrowth shift e is rejuv

[slow flint]

I'll look into it, thanks a lot

[kind star]

I just dont like to have main/spammable spell with modifiers personally, if it works for you who cares.

[cursive pagoda]

i can change it i guess, i have lifebloom as left click and wild growth as right click

could change them so regrowth is left rejuv is right

and then lifebloom is e and WG is shift e

[fervent mica]

do what works for you

[oak garnet]

I don't even have a rejuv keybind

I guess ctrl3 for myself

[tough portal]

You do bb you just sound stupid when you pretend clique/clicked isnt a keybind

[oak garnet]

Lol left click

[tough portal]

And thats not a keybind? lol

[weak crypt]

akshually its a clickbind

[kind star]

was gonna say that rofl french brain latency

[waxen ingot]

all of my spells are on my mouse

[lyric surge]

we posting keybinds!?

https://i.imgur.com/V5AA6na.png

[tough portal]

That is all unplayable yeah

[cursive pagoda]

this is mine

[proven phoenix]

e and shift e

come on man

surely not

[oak garnet]

Im on board with shift e rejuv

Being wild

E is strafe

[cursive pagoda]

ill swap them

[kind star]

shift+e is like my convoke and e is my wild charge.

[oak garnet]

Don't swap!

If it works for you

Say fuck you people

[thorn plover]

vanilla

[oak garnet]

There are rank 1s that move with trackpad or play with arrow keys

[oak garnet]

Do what you like

[cursive pagoda]

better? i can get used to this as well

[kind star]

too afraid of changes keeping up my bad habits of keybinds/logic for spells, fk everyone! 😛

[thorn plover]

i feel like spam clicking my mouse on people would get hella annoying

[cursive pagoda]

whhat does the apex mean by stacks on lifebloom?

[oak garnet]

It stacks up to 3

[rustic copper]

If it works for you do something suboptimal is some type shit

Shift e rejuv is demonic

[cursive pagoda]

so like 3 instances of lifebloom on the target

[oak garnet]

My shift key would be fucked

[cursive pagoda]

?

[haughty ibex]

okay some overal thoughts, then someone more exp than me can do more comments if they will look:
ur regrowth cpm is still insanely low, same with wg
the 1st pull of that skyreach is sadly tragic, u need to be prepared to spotheal always 2 dps for the bladerush. if we check the hunters death he went for over 4 seconds bleeding out with not one rg casted on him, and same with the pala's death. try to be prepared and move lb to one of them, or ns + rg as the bleed + aoe goes out.
the seat key is only one u timed so bit easier to see what u acc casting, again ur rg and wg cpm is too low. ur lb uptime is okay. ur having to use innervate and mana pot because u simply spam too many rejuvs and no rg at all basically
also idk all ur dps have smth wrong in their brain in ur logs, like how can there be 5 deaths from melee only:D

[rustic copper]

I guarantee you their cpm is low if their rejuv is shift e

[oak garnet]

Just one instance stacked to 3

[cursive pagoda]

its really not a hard bind to hit lol

[fervent mica]

e is strafe <_<

for over 20 years...

[cursive pagoda]

like 3x the healing of base lifebloom?

[fervent mica]

not changing

[weak crypt]

E used to be efflo... rip in peace

[cursive pagoda]

strafe?

[rustic copper]

I rebound strafe to ad

[oak garnet]

Idk if is 3x

[rustic copper]

Keyboard turn W

[cursive pagoda]

same

no way you guys turn with a and d wtf

[thorn plover]

qweasd all movement keys still

lets goo

[oak garnet]

I turn with my mouse

Like every sane wow player

[fervent mica]

i don't turn... strafe still useful

[rustic copper]

[south dove]

a d = strafe , shift a d = turn

most of the time turn with mouse

[thorn plover]

ill rarely turn with my keyboard if im doing something else with my mouse

[oak garnet]

Almost as demonic as shift e rejuv

[graceful ermine]

Why do you have modifiers as a row but then also give shift-# a column this hurts me so much can you stop

[fervent mica]

and its been those buttons for longer than some of you have been alive

[thorn plover]

you can make keyboard turn hella fast now

[graceful ermine]

Let's not do violence in spreadsheets please

[rustic copper]

But actually, it sounds like you’re fairly new to healing, you need to move that bind rejuv and regrowth should be on extremely spamable buttons

Mine are left and right click

[oak garnet]

I think nick keyboard turns and he's in liquid so truly do whatever works. As a mainly arena player converted to pve mouse movement was already baseline

[cursive pagoda]

yeah i changed it, idk e and shift e are spammable imo

but theyre clicks now

[south dove]

alt left clickj for target and alt right for menu are good replacements too

[oak garnet]

I still like self-cast modifiers for all my shit

[cursive pagoda]

like for mistweaver i use renewing mist on e and enveloping mists on shift e

[oak garnet]

I think that's useful

[graceful ermine]

I think spells with a cast time are always fine to put on a modifier key

I also do the same thing on mw. V is renewing mist, shift-v is envelop

[cursive pagoda]

hopefully i can get to max and get some vault before reset

[graceful ermine]

The main awkwardness is pressing a modifier keybind while also moving

[cursive pagoda]

pinky for shift, i press nothing else with it

[weak crypt]

imo core rotation spells should always be non modifier

[cursive pagoda]

besides ctrl

[graceful ermine]

Yeah that's reasonable. Certainly if you are casting something 15+ times a minute, it probably shouldn't be on a modifier

but the most key thing for me is to not have to press a modifier while moving

[weak crypt]

yea thats also important

I generally put spells with cds on modifiers as well

[graceful ermine]

Yeah big planned cds on modifiers is fine

Something that you would never need to do reactively

[weak crypt]

tbf I say all that and I have tranq on 1 so yea

[thorn plover]

i know they say 1 is a bad spam button, but its always been my spam button

[graceful ermine]

1 has been my kick since 2005 and I'm never going to change

[weak crypt]

yea man so real I cant spam 1 for some reason

[fervent mica]

what kick? <_<

[weak crypt]

like its uncomfy to press 1 a lot

[south dove]

if you have to move your hand for it, its a bad spam

[graceful ermine]

It's also my lifebloom key

[thorn plover]

i like 1 and 3 for spam

[oak garnet]

Again. Do what works for you. There's nothing against the laws of physics that says you can't bind a key to whatever you want. But having a shift modifier for such a commonly used spell, that also precludes you from like a self cast modifier kind of speaks to a bad habit that could prob be better optimized

[thorn plover]

2 for somewhat regular (lifebloom in my case)

[south dove]

best spams are 3,4,e,r,f

[thorn plover]

4 is good too

f is defensive on every character

[graceful ermine]

For me, G and V are my most comfortable keys to hit

[oak garnet]

4 is wg

[graceful ermine]

because I hold my hand slightly tilted

[south dove]

c v are niceish

[graceful ermine]

My index finger can move between G and V effortlessly

[thorn plover]

g is a reach, i use it for taunt

actually its extra action button rn

[weak crypt]

G is always the swifty one shot macro

[oak garnet]

G has been ping since the invented it

In I think df

[thorn plover]

i have ping on my mouse

[graceful ermine]

I will say when I came back to wow, I definitely had some confused muscle memory trying to hit G for ping from league

but I have it bound to F1 in wow

[oak garnet]

I'm playing with deathadder but would recommend probably a 6 or 9 button Naga for someone new

[thorn plover]

never liked mmo mouse

[oak garnet]

Just what I'm used to

[sturdy gazelle]

is there tech for tomorow and the rolls?

[graceful ermine]

Yeah my hands are too big for mmo mice

The buttons are too clustered

and they also just feel like trash to use in a general sense

[thorn plover]

i posted a mouse pic once and got yelled at to go clean it

[oak garnet]

Gamer gunk

[graceful ermine]

I prefer a slender, light mouse. Not this bulky monstrosity that mmo mice are

[oak garnet]

💀

[tough portal]

Everybody that uses an mmo mouse for rotational shit seems to love it, but 90% of them also complain about wrist pain a lot. Unrelated, I'm sure.

[kind star]

love my mmo mouse for utility stuff/buffs etc.

I cant use rotational stuff on that tho no way

[oak garnet]

Recipe for bad carpal

Or dequervains

[fierce isle]

need to get a good wrist rest

[wary belfry]

Definitely unrelated

(rotational binds on mouse sounds like torture)

[graceful ermine]

If you're not using it for rotational binds what is even the point?

Most non-rotational stuff could be on ctrl+shift+P and it would be fine

[narrow monolith]

secret pin*

[graceful ermine]

Pretty sure I could make tranq the most awkward keybind ever and it would have 0 real impact on anything

[wary belfry]

Sure, I just use it for kick, 1 long cd and some targeting related things

[oak garnet]

My tranq is ctrl page up which is that little button on top of mouse 😂

[narrow monolith]

I have 24 buttons on my mouse and all my stuffs bound to it

[wary belfry]

Ig resto doesnt have the cd anymore, was flourish

[narrow monolith]

I am probably an outlier

[oak garnet]

Feels like a confession

[graceful ermine]

I'm sorry about your wrist

[wary belfry]

Focus target, ping, interact with mouseover

[graceful ermine]

Okay those all make some amount of sense

I have focus target as middle mouse

[gaunt willow]

Best mouse ever

Only need 2 buttons 👀🙈

[oak garnet]

Interact w mousover!? Wsg gamer

[wary belfry]

Herbalism/mining/questing without it is low-key trolling yourself

Skinning too tbh

Any sort of looting

[thorn plover]

Can we go back to posting banned talent builds instead of banned keybinds

[gaunt willow]

How about banned movement keys?

[wary belfry]

You know those herbs stuck inside of trees?

U can get them with interact with mouseover

[gaunt willow]

I play WERC + A is interrupt and F is swiftmend

[tough portal]

Interact keybind is omega bis

[gaunt willow]

It’s a bit odd 😂

[thorn plover]

People actually herb?

[wary belfry]

I do it when I want to turn brain off

[graceful ermine]

It's pretty profitable early in a season

[wary belfry]

Turn on some music and just fly around

[thorn plover]

I play resto shaman when I want to turn my brain off

[wary belfry]

Social interaction requires brainpower i fear

[graceful ermine]

It's 100% second monitor content while you are doing something that requires focus on your main monitor

[thorn plover]

Resto shaman? Ya it is

[wary belfry]

I suck at multitasking I cant do it

Like watching a movie and questing at the same time im either watching the movie or questing

Not both

[weak crypt]

real

[left raft]

Hey, is there a reason why people use Light Potential on Lu'ra instead of Recklessnes?

[fervent mica]

primary stat good

[grizzled seal]

Depends on when

For healing crystals it's probably better cuz your healing there doesn't scale with haste very well

Later on reck is better

[left raft]

Most people use Light Potential on Intermission

mythic

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's troll

[waxen ingot]

Is swapping lifebloom on heal absorbs crown troll?

if i dont go and shoot 7 regrowths on a heal absorb the person will die

So is swapping LB so it takes me less time worth the loss on stacks

i dont want to comment on our heal absorb healing and stuff, im just curious is LB swap there fine

or complete troll

[pale hare]

Will going caster focused be actually better in keys tomorrow?

[thorn plover]

yes

unfortunately so

[oak garnet]

lifebloomr eminder on cursor

what addon

[thorn plover]

LifebloomAlert

duh

[oak garnet]

damn i got the Og version

guess i go to curseforge

[thorn plover]

lol

i have some updates coming tomorrow for it, after i fix whever blizz breaks

[oak garnet]

all senior citizens must have life (bloom)alert

[ornate pollen]

neck the right 3rd craft for an M+ mostly player with no plans to kill the Mythic bosses for the only good necks this tier?

[thorn plover]

glow frames, glow cursor, icon popup