resto

[simple rivet]

u welcome 😄

[abstract tulip]

I never really dps much in m+ unless I was bored. So maybe I’m bringing the group down lol I guess I’ll do more

I do like to do the roar and I used to interrupt where I could but they took my fun away

[crude nebula]

I noticed when watching Jdot’s stream, he sometimes swipes in bear form?

[thorn plover]

thats thrash

[tough portal]

At this point it should start to be a matter of figuring out who has a defensive up and who you Ironbark as well, split up Lifebloom and the NS SOTF Regrowth and Ironbark on 3 people that have the weakest defensives, like non-DKs for instance

[thorn plover]

swipe in bear seems weird but im not in the know

[crude nebula]

Oh shoot I didn’t even think about thrashing

[thorn plover]

its in the m+ dps guide i think 🙂

lol

until next week

[crude nebula]

Okay, I need to recheck it. Thanks

[abstract tulip]

I tend to tunnel and if I’m in kitty swiping away I forget to heal and then I get complained at lol

[ember sky]

Chat I think we're cooked this week. got gloves and head myth. Echo sucks. Probably just go for headpiece slot?

[tough portal]

It's on roughly 45-50s intervals so you just plan it out, Tranq the 2nd so you buy time for stuff you used on 1st one to cycle back for 3rd

[tough portal]

Why the helm if you already have myth helm?

Would be socket, not?

[ember sky]

I mean take the token to get the head socket

[haughty ibex]

can dks ams the heal absorb?

[gentle charm]

guys for litany in raid do we just straight pop it, then spam 5x wraths or something

[abstract tulip]

I’ve found wild growth is triggering litany

So you don’t need to dps at all

[gentle charm]

huh

[abstract tulip]

Bc treants spawn

[tough portal]

Treants will typically trigger it for you with Moonfire, but it may not happen during add fights

Cuz it wont re-Moonfire the boss unless every add is Moonfired

[paper ice]

Hey fam I’m not a resto druid but am a raid lead and don’t super know what I’m looking at can someone give me a bit of guidance on what my reasto druids are doing wrong
The main one I’m looking at is healbro but both could improve.

Any help is appreciated

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Zj2th71GwkAY8cMN

[gentle charm]

would macroing it to convoke proc it nicely?

[ember sky]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Zj2th71GwkAY8cMN/44/24

Not enough swiftmend is the first obvious one. You lose out on spreading HoTs and going into Tree if spec'd that way

[thorn plover]

lifebloom uptime is low,
swiftmend cpm is low,
wg cpm is low
not enough regrowth

[limpid jacinth]

Are you pairing NS with Convoke? There’s very, very little to heal in that fight so you should have no problem being full ramped before it hits. NS + Convoke and then SM + Regrowth should clear everyone.

[thorn plover]

ToL uptime is trash

[ember sky]

Cause not swiftmending

[thorn plover]

build is missing control of the dream talent

[thorn plover]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/

[gentle charm]

i feel like i see 50/50 cotd and potd

[tough portal]

Control isnt meaningful for Incarn and just in general it's a flexibility tool but not always an HPS gain I suppose. Power does almost nothing but

[paper ice]

Thank you heaps

[thorn plover]

regrowth baby

no wonder those fuckers got buffs

[abstract tulip]

Nice job!

What boss was it?

[crude nebula]

With the changes to moonfire/sunfire, I assume we still take wilstalker for m+ right?

[abstract tulip]

I am hoping the new talent build is posted so I can just copy it

[thorn plover]

NK

[thorn plover]

yes

[crude nebula]

I’m thinking abt going ahead and getting caster DPS talent setup and just playing with it now to get the feel for it

Do we actually use moonkin form?

[thorn plover]

yes

if youre going caster

[tough portal]

You should still play Wildstalker in this case, the healing difference is pretty decent

I'm not talenting Moonkin form rn personally

[thorn plover]

to keep cat stuff for st?

[tough portal]

Cat HOTW is still better single target even without the phys damage talents
And Chicken Convoke is a little disappointing I'd rather just use that for healing always

[thorn plover]

makes sense

[crude nebula]

Hmm, okay, I’ll mess with it later when I get home.

[tough portal]

Well I guess you can easily take Moonkin form without giving up anything of value

[thorn plover]

are you taking ms

[tough portal]

Yeah you have to

[thorn plover]

definitely never oom now if you were before

lol

[tough portal]

If you take Liveliness and actually cast damage spells you'll oom + MS is better damage anyways

[thorn plover]

thanks, i hate it

[tough portal]

Plus side I can drop Fluid Form ig

For 4% magic damage

[crude nebula]

So I’ve never actually DPSed as moonkin w/resto druid lol. Do you go moonkin to dot up or just for star spam?

[tough portal]

Neither

Read chat bestie keep up

[crude nebula]

Ahh

I’m slow 🙁

[tough portal]

[thorn plover]

if you dont take boomie youre saying?

[tough portal]

Yeah

I mean this build drops serious healing talents bro I need every Convoke as heal

[thorn plover]

lol

[proven phoenix]

[solar hollow]

if amulet of abyssal hymn drops from heroic crown, should i roll on it over a guildee? im using a champion neck atm

[limpid jacinth]

I’d say mine are about 60/40 heal/dps

[tough portal]

I dont imagine we are playing the same build

[limpid jacinth]

fair fair fair

Wasn’t critiquing

[onyx trail]

[torpid wraith]

Can you not stack reforestation before pull anymore??

[tough portal]

No sir

[torpid wraith]

damn

[proven phoenix]

does moonkin dps have any intricacies other than spamming starfire on aoe

[timid hound]

hello everyone i am new to this community

[proven phoenix]

sup

[tough portal]

Maintain LB and cycle Regrowth on all 5 people to get instant Blooming Infusion procs

[proven phoenix]

lmfao

I didnt even considering blooming infusion

im not playing kotg man...

[tough portal]

And then you can double buff Starfires per BI proc

[hard loom]

Anyone got a build crafted yet for raid for when apex changes

[timid hound]

no i dont have one sorry

[fierce isle]

Face seems excited for chicken dps

[hardy canopy]

it's the apex one from wowhead

[timid hound]

beef > chicken

[limpid jacinth]

Mmmm, beefy

[tough portal]

I'm excited for them to fix these bugs
I'm a fiend I will do the most damage that I can, ofc, but I don't want this

[limpid jacinth]

sad thing is that we’ll still be miles behind MW damage

[hardy canopy]

are u sure

[limpid jacinth]

I mean, anything is possible but it’s a huge discrepancy currently

[hard loom]

Ah okay, so still ToL > photy convoke

[tough portal]

With 40% buff man I don't think we will haha

I mean in a real prog key, sure

[limpid jacinth]

here’s hoping, just can’t see myself doing 40k

[tough portal]

But if you're just blasting vault keys for fun I think this will be pretty substantial

[limpid jacinth]

For sure for sure

[tough portal]

We can do >40k in 12s right now

[limpid jacinth]

Doing 12s sounds about as fun as plucking out my eyeballs

[reef locust]

Can Circuit Seer in Nexus point Xenas be stunned?

[pulsar kettle]

no

[reef locust]

What about corewright arcanist?

[limpid jacinth]

yes

[reef locust]

Oh I feel way better

Just wiped twice to their two moves overlapping

[solid hornet]

Would love some feedback on my log from Crown today - I'm running out of mana at the end which I think is really hurting. And my lb uptime / swiftmend weren't good this fight. Any insight appreciated!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nMA6tYhb2G3RrmBT?fight=last&type=healing&source=6

[gentle charm]

run hotw?

[solar lantern]

Is Liveliness better than Master Shapeshifter for DPS? (Also is Caster Resto looking good with the new buffs instead of Feral?) Thanks in advance <3

[hardy canopy]

liveliness is better for catweaving and ms for chicken

[grand dock]

Hello, Im new here and want to know where I can find some useful macros ? Mostly changing forms etc.

[solar lantern]

Oh, thanks haha, I legit saw your name pop up while searching for that info and with no response to it. Glad to hear it from you, haha <3 Thanks

[solid hornet]

is that for dps? or how does that help?

[gentle charm]

with MS, your hotw is insanely good at mana regen

[solar lantern]

Yea in raidfights I also prefer to run MS and catform --> hotw

swimming in mana

[solid hornet]

i had no idea it impacted mana!

[solar lantern]

just don't forget the bite at the end

[solid hornet]

i knew about ms

just thought it was dps effect

[solar lantern]

yea that's why wrathing isn't totally useless during downtime

[gentle charm]

and like just if you have any downtime throwing a few rakes , then 5cp rip for mana natty

[waxen ingot]

HAHAHA

[tough portal]

Lifebloom uptime and casting Swiftmend on cd is main things to work on

[waxen ingot]

Bro

[proven jolt]

its for the master shapeshifter talent

[waxen ingot]

AHHA

[tough portal]

Goated with the sauce perfect no wasted effort

[solid hornet]

thank you!!

[solid hornet]

wrathing interacts with hotw too?

[tough portal]

With Prosperity you should be looking at closer to 6 CPM on Swiftmend

You had 3

[solar lantern]

ah, the wrathing is just MS and "basic mana regen tool" that's always available

[solid hornet]

this makes sense - you're right

[solar lantern]

Rakes would be better for sure but also idk how crowded your raid is in melee

[tough portal]

Both of these will help your mana, you should avoid this with your Swiftmend

Don't eat Rejuvs

You use Swiftmend to get more Rejuvs, not eat the existing ones

And spend SOTF on Rejuv, not Regrowth

Bah shoulda linked the common mistakes page

[solid hornet]

ahhhh makes sense. so on my ramp, I rejuv a ton but sometimes eat one with a swiftmend to spread a few more before sending convoke. Bad?

bc i'm not casting regrowth on ramp, wasn't sure what to eat

[thorn plover]

wg

[solid hornet]

i appreciate that, i'll review it

[tough portal]

You arent ramping all that effectively. Most of your Convokes only had 4-6 active Rejuvs

[solid hornet]

word yeah it probably feels like i'm doing more than i'm actually accomplishing while navigating mechanics. i have a icon to track how many so i'll watch it closer

[solar lantern]

ah tbf I thought SotF was meant to go on Wild Growth too but good to know

[tough portal]

SOTF cant go on Wild Growth

[solar lantern]

nvm when did they change that (just checked tooltip then I read your message, lol)

going to the corner

[solid hornet]

thank you all this was so helpful

[proven jolt]

once you get into the rhythem of it, it feels better

[odd jacinth]

not casting wild growth after swiftmend has been a hard habit to break ngl

[steel kraken]

is anyone experience less heals in raid ?

[proven jolt]

ya, but also look at overhealing when you look at raid heals

[steel kraken]

i'm feeling buggy, dunno

was healing 160k the other day, was in vorasius healing 100k today

[grand herald]

idk i just got a nice rank 10 parse on dragons

feelin good to me :^)

[proven jolt]

is it a big deal to spec into liveliness over master shapeshifter?

[hardy canopy]

way less mana

in trade for a lil bit more hps

[proven jolt]

ya was curious if the hps was worth the loss of mana and being a little more conservative

[obsidian peak]

im kind of a noob, but how much healing are tanks supposed to need at say keys 9-10?

like do you need to constantly spam heal them

[hardy canopy]

i assume it's a really bad tank cus of the key range

just keep lb and rejuv at all times and if they die it's their fault

[obsidian peak]

like the tank just flops over after shield wall wears off

[tough portal]

As much as they need mate
No hard number and just doing a set number cuz you expect to heal the tank less if they play well wont help you succeed in those keys

[obsidian peak]

im spamming rejuv and their HP doesn't go up at all lol

[proven jolt]

i think it depends on the packs being pulled but cause some packs do hit hard usually thats when you want to make sure ironbark is up for those pulls but never had to just spam a tank as long as the tank is using his defensives properly

[hardy canopy]

you don't spam rejuv tho

[tough portal]

Do your best, if that means babysitting that's that. Don't spam Rejuv for 1, maybe you just typed the wrong spell name.

[hardy canopy]

you spam regrowth after the rejuvs

[obsidian peak]

i mean regrowth

[tough portal]

If you're full time babysitting and they die then you carry on

[hardy canopy]

aoe barely hits in 10s so just save your sotf to bloom the tank whenever they're on the verge of death

[drifting timber]

How do you bloom tanks

[rigid mirage]

ye im 245 in 10s rn and i just use swiftmend into rej

[drifting timber]

Trying to follow the lingo lol sorry

[proven jolt]

lifebloom on the tanks then when you use swiftmend on someone you get a buff called sould of the forrest that buffs your next rejuv or regrowth when you consume that soul of the forest buff you have the apex talent everbloom go of bloom 5 times in rapid succession

[drifting timber]

On the target with LB? Or to the group

[proven jolt]

who ever has the lifeblom with get that everbloom

so somtimes if dps are low and you need big heals you can proc that everbloom on them

[obsidian peak]

So LB them -> swiftmend -> regrowth?

[proven jolt]

by moving over the lifebloom before you consume the soul of the forest

i mean always keep LB up

[rigid mirage]

i am also new to pve but i never use SOTF on regrowth

cuz rej op

[tough portal]

Dont just move LB everytime you're casting a heal on someone new, fwiw

[proven jolt]

it should always be on rejuv unless an emergency ( i was just explaining the buff from the tooltip)

[rigid mirage]

ye+ it spreads rej

so your reg regrowth does more heals anyway

its so broken in m+

also make sure to use ns when casting vok

voke

[obsidian peak]

so in M+, are you mainly spamming regrowth after everyone has rejuv on them?

[solar lantern]

Regarding Druid DPS: Wildstalker would still be the way to play Caster Resto though, right? Even if you miss out on all the Rip and Rake interactions; doubt Keeper of the Grove is worth it

[thorn plover]

wtb pin

[fickle garden]

wts pin

[solar lantern]

yea, found it, sorry, ty; thought the bug might have been fixed but seems not

[thorn plover]

we dont know if the bug is fixed

the changes havent happened yet

[marsh hemlock]

What if I told you wildstalker is played in m+ for the healing

[proven jolt]

I wanted ask any advice for the 1st pull in windrunner spire m+ with pulling the whole 1st room at once

[solar lantern]

Oh, I know that much, sorry, maybe it's bit silly to "occupy the space" with questions about it but Delves are more enjoyable as Resto Boomkin than actual Boomkin so that's the primary reason I'm asking damage focused stuff.

[sharp mantle]

So is caster about to become viable again

Because I much prefer balance traits over kitty

[main timber]

Yes

Unfortunately a little too much so

[sharp mantle]

But it’s strange cause I only can move the 4 points but they’re all getting buffs

So idk what to take

[main timber]

I will have a nice new build ready on Tuesday

[solar lantern]

looking forward to it, thanks 💚

[main timber]

It shouldn't be vastly different to now. Just take caster points and drop most cat stuff

And then you go Cat Form for Heart of the Wild anyway

[solar lantern]

oh, well that's unfortunate

[obsidian peak]

you guys ever read first read the healing spell amounts and they look worthless? Like rejuv doing 1k/s seems worthless when people are getting chunked for 30k/s

[main timber]

No only when I'm testing stuff

We have many healing events

[ivory hill]

Evening y'all, any addon suggestions for tracking abundance/rejuv stacks pass what blizz default uses?

[obsidian peak]

yea i mean there are a lot of interactions with talents, but just looking at the amounts at a glance makes it seem you can barely heal anything

[thorn plover]

HoTTracker

[pearl vine]

So we taking these apex talents in raid yet?

[thorn plover]

yes

[main timber]

And despite that, we are the most powerful M+ healer so it clearly isn't that important

[obsidian peak]

like this looks like a joke

[ivory hill]

Thank you!!

[gentle nova]

man

i did 0 hps LMAO

[inner wadi]

liveliness worth it if im not catweaving?

[wraith herald]

did you kill bird

[gentle nova]

ye

[tough portal]

You can reasonably drop Fluid Form

At least

[main timber]

My 2nd Forestwalk point at long last

[wraith herald]

gg im taking a little vacation on the bench for that boss

[tough portal]

But when green numbers pop up 7x per second on each player I feel dopamine

Insane green number count

[merry oriole]

I just saw the latest changelog. I feel like from now on in M+ I'll even be using the Wildstalker talent but staying in Moonkin form, just spamming Starfire and Wrath for damage lol

[tough portal]

100% uptime on Forestwalk build too actually

[obsidian peak]

damn you have time to look at numbers? I'm looking at the bars lol

[tough portal]

Nature's Bounty still does pathetic healing even when I cast Regrowth on all 5 players full time in the dungeon

[gentle nova]

its the same in the raid

except it hits 20 players

[tough portal]

Reg at 18%, NB at 3%

[gentle nova]

had a pretty good log

but druid just does 0 healing

unfortunate

[wispy snow]

mythic raid tonight with 2 mistweavers and a cracked disc priest... i'm in hell

i thought my gear was broken on vorascious

[tough portal]

Ey mate be thankful you have a spot. Poor hpalas arent so fortunate.

[hardy canopy]

played kotg in a 18 npx and i hate playing around blooming infusion

but its really good dmg

[tough portal]

[rigid mirage]

is rdruid not good in raids?

[gentle nova]

its decent

[wispy snow]

its mid so absoutely playable

[gentle nova]

in beloren its pretty shit

[wispy snow]

but when you have 3 shielding classes there is just nothign to heal

[rigid mirage]

thats true

im new to pve so ive been only playing m+

feels like healing is insane

i only play 10s tho since 250 ilvl

[wispy snow]

in fairness mythic healing is a team game imo but only way to rate yourself is meters

[obsidian peak]

I see 2-3 dps with dots ticking 20% of their HP/s and I'm like shit, someone's dying here

[rigid mirage]

ye im sure ill get into raids but 0 shot i get into a raid rn since i lvl is low

[limpid jacinth]

I’m gonna be so grumpy if kotg ends up being the play

[plain rampart]

Is anyone else having som really weird fps freezings every second, except when you're in a Pull killing things? it was after updating my addons today

[rigid mirage]

ye i think im in too low of keys for dots to hit hard

[plain rampart]

Oh ok I just confirmed it's 100% dander's frames lol

[hardy canopy]

nah not having the healing amp from vines is pretty bad

[obsidian peak]

im thinking like the first pull in spire or the first few in seat

[rigid mirage]

ye i blow all cds other than tranq in first pull of spire

but again im a trash 250 ilvl in 10s

so im sure the gods in here know 100x more than me

[obsidian peak]

wish there was a way to simulate a certain pull at a certain key level

like is it possible for me to heal through a certain pull with no one using defensives lol

[hard bear]

Bro how do you have 60 cpm, would it be accurate to say my ping affects my ability to get super high cpm because I'm casting constantly but still only get low 50s max? My channeled abilities definitely get delayed and makes it tricky but its hard to notice it otherwise

[reef locust]

Do catform bleeds increase healing somehow?

[clear radish]

Which website is the most updated for a guide on resto?

[rigid mirage]

being in cat does if you play cat tree

[clear radish]

Learning resto druid

[reef locust]

Someone is telling me that I can do more healing if I keep rake and rip up on target

Are they smoking crack or am I doing druid wrong?

[waxen ingot]

wdym

like that your healing will be better

if you rake a target?

[reef locust]

Someone is insisting to me that the bloodvines from wildstalker boost hps osmehow

And theyre so confidently saying it

[waxen ingot]

No

[gentle nova]

I play at 200 ping

[waxen ingot]

symbiotic blooms and bloodvines are

separated between

[hard bear]

Maybe it's brain ping then

[gentle nova]

Well 150

Just never stop casting idk

[rigid mirage]

might be hast no?

haste

[gentle nova]

43%

[hard bear]

Mines close to 40% so I don't think that's the difference maker xD

[sly pivot]

The avoidable damage taken meter is enlightening

[rigid mirage]

wait

thats a thing?

[urban kestrel]

god crown makes me wish I could always force that healing absorb on myself

just play wildstalker, barkskin and forestwalk and that shit pops in like 3 regrowths

[inner wadi]

in m+ setting, is liveliness worth it if not catweaving? was considering dropping it for yseras

[sly pivot]

yeah in details

Thought I was doing well healing 10s and had a rough key, check it and rogue has like 10m avoidable taken

[main timber]

Master shapeshifter is more damage if you are pressing balance spells, but liveliness would be more healing. In any case you'd never take Ysera of all things

Most useless talent in the tree

[rigid mirage]

lmfao def gonna check that out on bad keys if i feel like i cant heal enough

[plain steeple]

Ysera is a typical bait talent.

Every spec has that

[main timber]

Needs to look good to be bait

[sly pivot]

had a 10 windrunner ++ and then next key brick

[plain steeple]

Or trash talent - however you wanna describe it. But something nobody should ever pick.

[thorn plover]

if the waking dream just said to instead of by and deleted the last line, it would be good

[inner wadi]

Cries on the inside, was hoping yseras could be better when not catweaving in m+

broke my heart with facts lol

[main timber]

It just doesn't help with any healing challenge you might ever find yourself in

So may as well take any other talent

[inner wadi]

i prefer pure healing as rdruid, not a big catweaving or caster dpsing in m+

[vivid elbow]

thats irrelevant to yseras lol

[main timber]

Better take the stronger healing talents then!

[urban kestrel]

how ysera got made a 3rd gate talent is beyond me

that talent has been on a death march ever since they made it resto only

[main timber]

It works well as a T1 point imo and our current T1 points are pretty dire

[tough portal]

You need to drop 2 healing talents to pick up Ysera's Gift and still path to Photo, not just the Liveliness node.

[thorn plover]

ok how do i boomkin weave, what spells do i actually need to take

this is bullshit

[sly pivot]

If I wanted to be a cat I'd play feral, but I would prefer they made both options equally viable for what people prefer

[thorn plover]

wen face dps boom guide

[tough portal]

If I wanted to cast Starfire I'd play moonkin

Like what?

@thorn plover repeat this over and over

[spare sand]

do you have lura ring?

[sly pivot]

I mean I agree with that too, I just want to heal 😛

[thorn plover]

i dont have to sunfire?

that shits expensive

[tough portal]

Bro Sunfire does piss damage

[thorn plover]

good

[tough portal]

It's an instant global if you want to press it on the move

[main timber]

Shouldn't be too hard for cat / balance stuff to be within 5% of each other

[tough portal]

When you cancel your 3rd Starfire in 5 seconds

[main timber]

They are just not good at tuning them

[tough portal]

Yeah they can even use Bursting Growth as a tuning knob for cat AOE without affecting both 'builds'

It's honestly baffling

[thorn plover]

😤

[tough portal]

There is also just no other talents to take tbh in the class tree

[thorn plover]

no starsurge right

[tough portal]

You want Starsurge

[thorn plover]

ok

[tough portal]

Good for ST and to trigger Call if you want to play that

Call is a much bigger DPS gain for caster than cat

[rigid mirage]

what are the play talents we have in pve?

like ones we can swap off

[tough portal]

In what situation?

[narrow ruin]

how is this possible

[rigid mirage]

like key to key

[tough portal]

There isnt much of anything people swap key to key, at most it's like 1 point into 2nd TV or Nature's Bounty or Harmonious Blooming

[gentle nova]

im good at pressing buttons

and then

i do 20% less than the monk and disc

good game

[small wolf]

Hey guys! Does anyone kno of an add-on that I can use to make the stack count of abundance bigger on my buff tracker?

I've tried enhanced QOL and some other add-ons, but for some reason they don't let me change the font size of the stacks

[tough portal]

@thorn plover idk if you noticed but you can double queue Starfire per proc of Blooming... THis is what I'm showing in the video

[narrow ruin]

no way

[still topaz]

so is riading without our hero talents the way to go now?

[tough portal]

Use hottracker by purrformance mate

Very good addon

It's in his discord profile

[small wolf]

Ooooooo is that on wagon?

Wago*

[low iron]

purrformance

[thorn plover]

im not playing kotg

[tough portal]

It's on curseforge, not sure it's on wago

[tough portal]

Yeah fair enough, then ignore that video

[small wolf]

Thank you so much;

[tough portal]

Just Starfire

[small wolf]

!

[thorn plover]

are you switching kotg for the dps?

or just playin

[tough portal]

I'm not doing anything remotely difficult in keys bro I dont even play this game

I main pvp

So just doing whatever for shits and gigs

[thorn plover]

dream of cenarius build lets go

[low iron]

DoC 50% haste build hell yea

[thorn plover]

my key group just does not log on anymore apparently, so i guess i dont do anything difficult either

[ebon reef]

so if i just got crucible today, do i have to wait 2 weeks before it actually is the sim value?

[main timber]

You can turn off the buffs in QE if you want

You can get the upgrade tokens from the Voidstorm event too

So anywhere from 1-2 resets

[tough portal]

You could also reasonably just take Starfire and go MS over Liveliness for some AOE with an otherwise cat build, this is still netting a ~10% DPS gain with the buffs next week

[ebon reef]

oh, ok wasnt sure if it was farmable in one go

[rain hinge]

is weak auras??

[ebon reef]

thanks!

[tough portal]

2 per week yeah

[rigid mirage]

was more so talkin about reg druid tree to get typhoon and uv

i assume we drop FW?

[tough portal]

Yeah prob 1 point in Forestwalk if you want Ursine

Or Innervate depending

On your build / content level

Idk what you have without taking Typhoon atm

[rigid mirage]

im new to pve so i just took it from wowhead m+ build

[tough portal]

Yeah it has Typhoon mate

[rigid mirage]

ye just saw

[marsh prism]

such agood name btw

[rigid mirage]

idk where i took mine from

lmfao

[tough portal]

Thanks it unfortunately came from an unfortunate circumstance

[marsh prism]

🧍

[tough portal]

And I had this name on a Kultiran dad bod so I just deleted and yoinked

[tough portal]

Some pigfuck (I'm guessing Tswift-Malfurion the absolute rat) name reported Taylorswift out of jealousy and evilness

And I got flagged for a rename

Against all odds

[torpid wraith]

Can someone please review my log I feel like I could be doing something a little better

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jJtmxN1BC97bgAwL?fight=24&type=casts&source=245

[rigid mirage]

how needed is Innervate in high keys?

[tough portal]

Not much

At some point you may run into boss fights lasting 4+ minutes

[main timber]

Reported for name change by Katyperry-Illidan

[tough portal]

Like at 20s, 21s

[graceful ermine]

What if it’s the real Katy Perry

[rigid mirage]

where would you put the extra talent? FW?

[tough portal]

Yeah Forestwalk is goated

I love it 2/2 locked in forever

[rigid mirage]

kk ill try it later ty

glad its playable in pve cuz we are shit in pvp

rn

[lavish adder]

hi guys do you know if its still possible to get the Resto Druid Cursor combo in midnight ? i remember in previous expension it was pretty powerful on your wow cursor you could see main ability from resto druid like lifebloom swiftmend ect

[marsh prism]

ROFL

[plain steeple]

For picking VI you have a lot of Lifebloom casts.
Make sure you cast swiftmend on a target that has Lifebloom and 2 rejuvs always.

Otherwise cpm looks fine.
Have you checked through WoWAnalyzer?

[grand herald]

yes, through weakauras or another addon

[plain steeple]

I got a slight feeling that you maybe don’t use your mastery properly and often cast Regrowth on targets that aren’t buffed by other hots.

But can’t check from phone.

[torpid wraith]

I have not checked I thought it was very outdated?

So use SM on lifeblooom and 2 hots and I should regrowth on targets that have more hots on them

With how fast some of the people got healed up I was just spamming on random people tbh

[tough portal]

I feel like this sort of decision making isnt in line with just healing whoever needs healing

[tribal shore]

So when i read the apex talent rework it says Rank 2s final bloom is the healing that goes out to the 6 people. So does that still count towards Rank 3s frenzy bloom?

[grand herald]

there is only 1 type of bloom

so photo, apex 3, and LB expire/refresh count

[tribal shore]

Ok so when it says Final bloom its just stating the in general bloom. I think im getting to caught up on the word final

[thorn plover]

poor choice of wording on blizzards part

[tribal shore]

so the frenzy 3 blooms are going to 6 people now instead of 2

[thorn plover]

at 50% instead of 30%

[indigo inlet]

anyone having a bug in mythic raids where you cant roll on loot if you have a hero piece of the same ilvl?

[tribal shore]

i feel like its more of a ease of life buff. wonder how the numbers shake out

[indigo inlet]

happened to me twice now insanely annoying

[thorn plover]

quite large buff

expect nerfs to follow

[final obsidian]

So since I dont see a pin about it I guess I'll ask, will the caster dmg buffs make caster dpsing better than cat weaving?

[thorn plover]

yes

[final obsidian]

Still windstalker or keeper for keys then?

[thorn plover]

still ws

[final obsidian]

Kk ty

[thorn plover]

you still want to go cat for hotw

[final obsidian]

Tyvm for the promp answer lol

Prompt**

[tribal shore]

I stopped healing with my druid bc felt like it was so much work to heal but ill prob start using him more if i got a 6man cleave on the blooms.

[thorn plover]

that is quite the sentence

[narrow ruin]

rdruid is life

[grand herald]

quite literally, yes

[woven mango]

Any idea what talent build will look like on tuesday or not yet

[main timber]

In raid or M+

[woven mango]

raid

[true fjord]

well i still think we'll go cat heart of the wild for 5 point regen

i think raid will be basically the same

[grand herald]

the change is to our apex

[true fjord]

woah woah what change

[woven mango]

Yeah apex got buffed so the question was if we take it and what it looks like

[grand herald]

pins

[woven mango]

#resto message

Keys ill figure out later more interested in raid build with apex buff

[true fjord]

still doesnt look like worth taking 4 talent points for it for raid

[plain steeple]

Then play without if you don’t like it. 🤷‍♂️

Nobody will stop you.

[true fjord]

why the attitude

[grand herald]

its an absurdly big buff

[woven mango]

Thats why i askin the smart people

[balmy spire]

Bench will stop him

[true fjord]

yea its a buff but it requires 4 points to use, and you need to respec away from rejuv + regrowth bombing to make it happen lol

[narrow ruin]

how are you playing it then? spam wg?

[true fjord]

elusivv-stormrage

i just saw @main timber in chat come back what you think

[grand herald]

our current apex is already almost equal with no apex builds

so take that, and then buff the shit out of the apex build

and its an easy win

[true fjord]

yea but it is only off the bloom, so you will need to take 5 points to make it worthwhile

because you will need to spec into the 8% lifebloom proc

[tough portal]

That's the design goal of every apex talent

[grand herald]

yes, the apex getting buffed will make photo better than other talents

[tough portal]

We understand there is opportunity cost in a talent swap, ofc mate

[balmy spire]

You dont have to lol... Sotf is proc 4th apex, pandemic proc it

But you will anyways

[thorn plover]

i love just spewing nonsense without anything to back it up. not like anyone has done a ton of math on it or anything

/s

[grand herald]

to be fair

[main timber]

What are we talking about?

[grand herald]

they never made any claims on wether it was good or not

they just said some facts to consider

[true fjord]

the new apex buff

[grand herald]

ok yeah aside from that :^)

[true fjord]

im logging in to mess with talents rq

but in my opinion, i think it will still not be worthwhile

[grand herald]

its a solid buff to rdruid in general

[thorn plover]

its an insanely big buff

youre just wrong

[grand herald]

not taking it will be trolling your team

apex was already a 15%+ healing done talent with no photo

a huge buff to that is gonna dominate your healing done

[chilly kestrel]

is there any notable new changes coming w/ 12.5?

[grand herald]

yeah

[thorn plover]

on this log with no other talent changes, it would have made everbloom do 9m healing

and this was before we started looking at wildstalker builds

[grand herald]

im excited to use the changes on pallies

[tribal shore]

whatd you increase the hits and add 20 percent?

[grand herald]

just started prog

[true fjord]

can you give me some math on this

[thorn plover]

its all in here if you look for it

[main timber]

Apex is definitely close enough right now that this substantial buff should make it playable at all times by a lot

[woven mango]

Im guessing we no longer play embrace on tuesday

[thorn plover]

that was meant to reply to elusivv

[true fjord]

explain like im 5

[proven phoenix]

I just dont think there is much to explain

[thorn plover]

^

[proven phoenix]

apex talents do more healing than other talents

[true fjord]

youre playing apex rn?

[woven mango]

Are we gonna be running reforestation you think or naw?

[proven phoenix]

no because apex has not been buffed yet

[thorn plover]

doubt

[proven phoenix]

I think even right now apex is competitive tbh

[woven mango]

ok thats what i thought

[proven phoenix]

its not like super far behind or anything

[main timber]

[woven mango]

Chicken weave time?!

[slow pasture]

Rip rip

[true fjord]

rip cat

[plain steeple]

As Blizzard wants us to play

[true fjord]

ive already been doing boomkin in dungeon

cat in raid bc regen

[slow pasture]

I have to find new bind

[true fjord]

what boss was this on I can't find it

[plain steeple]

Take your swipe and mangle binds

[slow pasture]

They were on my cat bar

[plain steeple]

Or your sunfire bind from previous expansions

[tribal shore]

Wish theyd trim the talent tree and give us ironbark and tranq and put yseras gift and the upgrade where that is.

[true fjord]

sunfire has been necessary in m+ already though

[plain steeple]

Hahahaha no

[main timber]

Necessary (useless)

[plain steeple]

It doesn’t do anything

Except wasting your mana

[slow pasture]

no it wasn’t necessary

[true fjord]

its 1 global for an aoe dot lol

[tribal shore]

yea sunfire damage is laughable

[thorn plover]

4500 mana for almost no damage

[plain steeple]

That is less damage than 1 global for a cast

[thorn plover]

seems good right

[slow pasture]

It’s mana costly for minor dmg

[true fjord]

well i dont run liveliness even though i should so i dont have mana issue

[pulsar kettle]

[true fjord]

can we get back onto the apex talent rq

[plain steeple]

Without liveliness your sunfire is doing even less dmg

[woven mango]

lifebloom go brrrrrr

[plain steeple]

Take it off the bar

[thorn plover]

youll run MS next week anyways

[lament river]

Are we doing moonkin dps in m+ now ?

[woven mango]

🐔

[true fjord]

on tuesday we will be

need to get rid of 1 more dont make me do it

[plain steeple]

What kind of an abomination is that?

Holy moly

[thorn plover]

what is that

lmao

[true fjord]

this is our future

[thorn plover]

this guy has to be trolling

[plain steeple]

MS with ToL without reforestation, no 4/4 apex

[tribal shore]

Thank god catweaving is going away what a overcomplicated way of doing 10-20k dps

[pulsar kettle]

what's complicated about it

!

[true fjord]

thats why i said i need to remove 1 more talent

[thorn plover]

please explain how its more complicated than casting starfire for 2 seconds

[tough portal]

And on this log, 4/4 Apex is contributing ~19k healing between LB buff, splash, and Verdancy procs from Frenzy Bloom.
12.0.5 loses 37% of Blooms, which is not a lot of effective healing lost, about 2k between the BLooms, Verdancy and Everbloom splash, and the new splash value would be 19k HPS, a ~6k HPS gain from that.
If you infer that Photosynthesis woulda given 110 more Blooms (from the total hot tick count), that doubles it for another 19k HPS in splash healing, another 2-3k in Verdancy healing as well. It has some opportunity cost from a talent swap, you probably swap out 2nd TV point in this build Donby ran, so that's minus ~7k HPS from half of TV value and ~1/4 of Nature's Bounty value.

[tribal shore]

i gotta try and find time to go into melee and and rake and rip that does damage barly does anything

[thorn plover]

you should always be in melee

[tough portal]

Why bro

[true fjord]

thank you, i appreciate this more than "trust me bro"

[true fjord]

for the apex

[thorn plover]

i told you where to look, there was no trust me bro

the math is done

[plain steeple]

Meanwhile is will stand in melee casting starfires from 3y distance.

[true fjord]

i did ask for the fight that was from

[pine coyote]

i've seen a lot of high rated players (m+) use these 2 nodes instead, any opinions?

[bright swift]

Wtf is that

[true fjord]

post some shit then

[thorn plover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ck82mtxPRrvjyzbG?fight=54&type=healing&source=696

[plain steeple]

Dropping NB

[main timber]

You're right that it's common but I think it's a bad choice on both counts

[true fjord]

^

[bright swift]

Dropping ND more like

[true fjord]

like theyre running swiftmend and thriving vegetation or vice versa

[thorn plover]

drop embrace for MS on the 2 fights we need it

[bright swift]

I like the idea swiftmend healinr

[main timber]

I am a VI enjoyer, swiftmend healing useless

[woven mango]

this for raid

[pine coyote]

idk tbh i kind of wanna try it

[plain steeple]

Implant important!

[bright swift]

Vi in keys even?

Not based Voulk

[main timber]

Yes, full value package

[tough portal]

The short of it is that you're going from 2x 30% of 100% (60) to 6x 50% of ~30% (90) at least. Without a Photo swap that's presumably a 50% buff to Everbloom healing already, so ~4-5% healing gain.
The design change means you can game it and make some other positive trades in other talents.

[main timber]

My HoTs last years

[bright swift]

You need to see the light

[thorn plover]

yeah just forgot to switch hero tree, was just showing WS

[pulsar kettle]

prosp better

[gentle nova]

Nb is 10% hps

[pulsar kettle]

[gentle nova]

ur not dropping that

[bright swift]

Not in m+ man

[plain steeple]

Just so people don’t copy faulty builds. 🙂
otherwise looks great.

[gleaming lintel]

is the caster abilities buff good for m+ or are we still gonna go feral ?

[tough portal]

They're pretty massive

[bitter jasper]

is there a pin or note somewhere with the specifics of how mastery dr works and how much % each hot adds

[woven mango]

Ok glad i came to the same conclusion ty king i love you

[tough portal]

At the very least you're looking at dropping a talent to pick up Starfire and swapping Liveliness to MS to cast Starfire in AOE, while keeping the catweaving package for single target.

[vocal sage]

In higher keys I don’t get much time in cat anyway, will definitely be giving them a go

[gleaming lintel]

I see, thanks !

[tough portal]

There is in the QE site, it's 100%, 70, 60, 50, 40%

[tough portal]

Or 100, 170, 230, 280, 320, 360% of mastery value total

[lament river]

Why do we go moonkin DPs next week and is it still WS ?

[bitter jasper]

lifebloom counting for 3 stacks of mastery and 3 stacks of lifebloom means we care much further past 5 stacks of hots no? or am i not understanding exactly how stuff works

[thorn plover]

huge buffs to caster spells, yes still ws

[lament river]

And MS to regen mana ?

[true fjord]

which 2 fights? just the long ones?

[thorn plover]

ms for damage

[tough portal]

Mostly because it's better damage for Starfire spam

[main timber]

Mmm to be clear you only get 3 mastery stacks from that even with 3x stacks of Lifebloom

[thorn plover]

anything over 8 mins prob, maybe a bit less since we drop refo

[main timber]

But yes 6-7 stacks isn't uncommon on a juiced Lifebloom target

And I should update the table to include them

I have the full version around here somewhere

[true fjord]

is keeper the same for raid or what are you changing there

[bitter jasper]

i guess im having a thought about the value of harmonious blooming

[thorn plover]

keeper would be the same

[bitter jasper]

feels like it might still be worth taking

[main timber]

In raid or M+? It isn't a bad talent, it's just a question of what you swap for it

It's like ~8-10% amp on your lifebloom target + Everbloom cleaves

[true fjord]

?

[thorn plover]

control the dream

[plain steeple]

Keep in mind you will talent HB in M+ only - not in raids.
Everbloom healing does not rely on the hot part of LB anymore, only on the blooms.

[main timber]

Why would the second part matter

[true fjord]

are you popping convoke right as damage comes, or is it a part of the ramp

[plain steeple]

Switching LB targets and the requirement of rather big tank healing makes it valuable in M+.

In raids you won’t do either of those though and rather overheal your target with LB all the time.

[glass crane]

there are for sure times it makes sense to swap lb target in raid

absorbs on vanguard and alleria justify it

[bright swift]

Haven't found the need for it except on beloren

[lofty zinc]

I switch basically every time I have to stand solo, so my effort still hits people

[bright swift]

On vanguard it's just on myself

[gentle nova]

beloren for what

[rustic copper]

For what

When someone eats the dot?

[gentle nova]

[bright swift]

If someone gets hit by the wrong colour in intermission yea

[rustic copper]

I’m so sad we didn’t kill

So many good pulls

[plain steeple]

On some bosses with absorbs for example, that’s right. But its value in raid is still worse compared to other talents. Especially now that it’s competing against talents like TV.

[gentle nova]

gg

😄

[bright swift]

Hopefully we kill today

[plain steeple]

GL to you guys!

[rustic copper]

We got a deep p2 pull on our first pull

[bright swift]

We haven't seen second egg

[rustic copper]

Was looking like we’d smash the boss

[gentle nova]

we killed and i got gapped

[rustic copper]

And then we just griefed all night

[gentle nova]

feelsbad

[rustic copper]

When did you tranq

[gentle nova]

with lust and then at 2nd egg

but we pushed early

[rustic copper]

Ok I’m doing the same

[gentle nova]

so my tranq in 2nd was useless

[rustic copper]

Gg

[gentle nova]

gg

i wouldve ascended if we didnt push early

[rustic copper]

Are you cancelaura ?

[gentle nova]

nope but i could see how thats good

just cba

[rustic copper]

Yeah

[gentle nova]

i was holding sm for some seconds

[rustic copper]

Ouch

Proccing start of p2?

[gentle nova]

no

[rustic copper]

Hmm

[gentle nova]

i proc on color 3 then at the end of p2

[tough portal]

It would just be 30% and 20% value for those other 2 stacks.
So for example I'm at 27.4% mastery, at 5 stacks (no HB) I get 3.2 x 27.4 = 87.68% amp - if I swap to HB it goes to 3.7 x 27.4 = 101.38% amp
That's 7.3% more healing (201.38 / 187.68)

[gentle nova]

start of p2 has monk just doing a million hps

[bright swift]

If I send SM on cd the entire fight I have a tree proc for both heal absorbs in p2

[rustic copper]

I think you want to proc first gcd p2

So you can extend tranq

[gentle nova]

theres no point

when monk is doing infinite there

then he falls off

[rustic copper]

We had our monk delay

It’s good for start of 2nd p1

[gentle nova]

i cover that

[rustic copper]

Important to be healthy for those soaks

Ye but your cds aren’t up in time later

And like if you pandemic rejuvs end of 1st p1

Your p2 ramp is so fucking wide

You’re just blasting for 40s

It’s crazy

[gentle nova]

i lost r1 for 6k

SoM diff

now i got a 0

gg

[rustic copper]

How much hps

[gentle nova]

cursed hps

[rustic copper]

Do you have a rogue

[gentle nova]

yes

[glass crane]

ddos them

[rustic copper]

That’s prob a decent reason we’re higher

We’re also cucking the disc a bit

[gentle nova]

that fight is not a rdruid fight

it sucks cock

[true fjord]

"50% of lifebloom's bloom healing" how much is the bloom healing

[rustic copper]

They’re sending early p2 so they have later

[rustic copper]

Yeah it’s terrible

Lura with the buffs though

I’m going to be unstoppable

[gentle nova]

yeah looking forward

[thorn plover]

Look at logs man

[rustic copper]

I haven’t checked mythic at all

It’s surely a WS fight right

[true fjord]

im not running this and the bosses under your name you werent either

most every druid i look up is running what we've been running

[thorn plover]

No shit

[rustic copper]

Get your 3rd convoke on intermission

[thorn plover]

That's why we found someone running the build closest to what we will be running

[rustic copper]

No 4th

[thorn plover]

Like the log I linked you

[gentle nova]

this was a 2% wipe

im so sad

[bright swift]

Yes

[rustic copper]

Show p2

[true fjord]

alright bud

[rustic copper]

What if I play 2 min convoke

Convoke 1st adds and intermission

[bright swift]

Convoke lines up all fight without needing control

[rustic copper]

Idk

[bright swift]

There's more than 3 mins between pull and intermission

Are you gonna hold convoke for a minute

When it's already 2 mins

[rustic copper]

I mean

You’re going to convoke on pull

With 2 min convoke?

[bright swift]

First adds?

[rustic copper]

Oh I forgot about those huh

Yeah ggs

I’m not dropping apex or photo or tv

So I’m playing it anyways

[thorn plover]

1m voke > 2nd tv

[rustic copper]

Yeah you’re bald

[thorn plover]

Lol

[rustic copper]

I bet you don’t even pandemic your regrowths

[bright swift]

He plays the cringe regrowth way

Just walk away

[rustic copper]

Show 1st and 2nd p2

[thorn plover]

What's Regrowth do

[gentle nova]

p2 is egg?

[rustic copper]

Yes

What does regrowth do

[bright swift]

He doesn't press rejuv outside of sotf

[rustic copper]

[bright swift]

Only regrowth

[rustic copper]

I have like 20 rejuv cpm on bird

Like 27 regrowth

[bright swift]

Ye cuz there's no damage and you're better off ramping for it

[rustic copper]

It’s because it’s short so I can afford to delete mana

[rustic copper]

O wow

Mw

[true fjord]

i dont think this is a good reference because there is essentially uncapped healing. as in they are 3 healing a mythic boss and 1 of their healers died and is doing 87k. but yes on tuesday it will be better than existing spec

[rustic copper]

Ws on bird????

[gentle nova]

its good

i shouldve stayed ws

[rustic copper]

Do I walk in tomorrow with a different hero tree even though we’re right about to kill

[gentle nova]

i swapped KOTG for control but not really worth it

[rustic copper]

I think I don’t need control 2nd p1

[gentle nova]

u dont

[rustic copper]

Maybe I just skip 1st convoke

Light work

[gentle nova]

u do need it for p1 but its actrually useless

[rustic copper]

Yeah

[gentle nova]

u can just skip the convoke on pull too

[rustic copper]

You convoked on pull?

With WS?

[gentle nova]

like 6 seconds before

i entered fight with 10 blooms

: 3

[rustic copper]

I think that’s unplayable

[gentle nova]

yeah was a bit cursed

[rustic copper]

I think you want to gate sm rejuv convoke first globals of p2

And tranq as soon as you can

[gentle nova]

yup

[rustic copper]

I’ll convoke at -15

[pseudo mica]

guys I'm thinking of trying out resto, I am guardian main, would the new changes make spell dmg viable for resto? I hate the cat weaving thing

[rustic copper]

[gentle nova]

2nd p2 healing

[rustic copper]

Do you even play reforest on Ws

[bright swift]

Crazy how we get more ppl asking about the damage changes than the apex changes

[rustic copper]

I think liveliness is goated

[bright swift]

Get real

[rustic copper]

[tough portal]

I dont think purrformance posted this to showcase how it's really sick rn mate, it is quite close, the talent swaps are contributing like 2% more healing for no Apex rn. It was just showing the breakdown and how much healing the changes would add to that breakdown.

[gentle nova]

i played pretty good the first 2 hours of the nighht

then my gameplay went to shit

always happens to me idk

[rustic copper]

I’m locked in some nights

Not tonight though

[tough portal]

The day apex changes were posted it got lots of ppl asking too tho

[gentle nova]

Im happy we killed but i feel in the kill pull i did nothing

[rustic copper]

Do you have bark assigned

[gentle nova]

yes

[rustic copper]

I’m like actually struggling to bark

It’s so difficult

[gentle nova]

i just do it on cd on the dark soak

[bright swift]

I bark light dive 1 and 3

[gentle nova]

unless its an immune

[rustic copper]

I have 500 hots out

And I need to find the fucking 1 debuff without a highlight

[gentle nova]

yeah lmfao

[rustic copper]

I’ve actually missed a few barks

[bright swift]

Blizzard wanted that from you

[rustic copper]

Because I can’t find them

[bright swift]

Make your private auras bigger

There's no other auras on this fight so it's actually good

[rustic copper]

So the issue is that I’ve always had a problem where my ui was too big and it gave me a blind spot for mechanics

[true fjord]

i looked at another fight and the rdruid did 198k hps so rip i guess we doing it this way

[rustic copper]

It was fucking impossible to dodge mechanics from behind me with my old ui

So now it’s small and to the left

Any bigger and I’m going to get griefed man idk

I’m cooked

[true fjord]

also a 4 minute fight but still

[gentle nova]

My rl doesnt like me changing stuff on the go

i couldve moved my tranq i think

[tough portal]

Make your frames 75% opacity

[gentle nova]

but i just stick to that

since im trialing so

[tough portal]

Yk nobody trying to figure this out in here is driving conclusions from who cheesed the hardest for 1 top log with any given build yeah?

[rustic copper]

I’m pretty sure that’ll be horrible too, I need to identify so much shit on my frames I want it to be full

I need glasses

[peak charm]

@gentle nova u kill bird ?

[gentle nova]

yup

[peak charm]

Good shit

[tough portal]

The icons can still be full opacity

But idk

I did this last year and felt like it helped

[peak charm]

Man I tried that icon stuff , I couldn’t do it

[plain steeple]

Somewhere between 15-35k per bloom. It has some quite wide range depending on talents and playstyle/timing. also depends a lot on your mastery value.

[urban bone]

I did something similar but actually I like your color scheme

[tough portal]

I do want to make the unbuffed Rejuv icon a little more purple

[urban bone]

But I like have a diff spot for each hot

[tough portal]

And the buffed one more pink

Ima go do that rn actually

[sinful jackal]

Is that elvui

Or smth else

[true fjord]

but its going to be 15-35k per bloom * 6 targets & when we consume soul of the forest it will go 5 times straight?

[tough portal]

I use grid2

But I reckon every raid frame can be made to look very similar

[true fjord]

so like a mil every soul of the forest if we have people hotted up ahead of time with mastery stacks

[thorn plover]

It's 3x not 5

[plain steeple]

There is a 50% factor in the talent.
Consuming sotf will give 3 blooms.
But you will also have photo to proc blooms and depending on your talent build you might refresh in pandemic for an extra bloom every 15s.

[thorn plover]

And .5 of the bloom

[true fjord]

oh yes 3x now * 6 targets

ah yes 50% ok

[thorn plover]

Plus phosy blooms

Plus natty blooms

[true fjord]

are we going to want lifebloom to drop its stack then before refresh

so it has its natty bloom

[clever burrow]

Does the apex bloom cleave still do the cleave healing if the blooms are overhealing

[thorn plover]

Not drop but refresh in pandemic

[plain steeple]

Refreshing in pandemic also lets it bloom, as if it would run out.

[true fjord]

ohhhh

[grand herald]

personally im probably still gonna run VI :^)

[thorn plover]

This guy arguing about apex not being worth it doesn't know how lifebloom works. I cant

[true fjord]

dog i literally looked at the logs

i had a hypothesis

i was wrong

no kidding right

[thorn plover]

Start with reading your spells

[true fjord]

you are the rudest motherfucker ive ever seen

[plain steeple]

He is not. Purrformance is a nice guy and always tries to be very helpful.

Doing a great job for the community.

Thank you btw.

[pulsar jewel]

If you are new in any discord and try swinging your dick around with incorrect information, it usually rolls the same way.

[plain steeple]

No reason to flame anyone with such a wording.

[true fjord]

this isnt rude?

[pulsar jewel]

Not really no

[marsh prism]

nowhere close to the rudest thing here

[spare sand]

bruh

[thorn plover]

First day on the internet is a rough go

You'll learn

[tough portal]

It's been a testy subject mostly cuz there have been lots of people coming in to present their opinions that just dont know how their spells work

[proven phoenix]

I think we should all strive to be nice to each other personally

It makes me sad when people are mean

[tough portal]

Specifically after the apex changes were posted a few nights ago

[true fjord]

Sorry I came into a discord about the spec I play and asked questions, but if someone is passive aggressive towards me im going to call them out for it

[abstract tulip]

Too much drama for me.

[torpid shore]

Reading hard these days, eh?

[peak charm]

Damn I just noticed there is nerfs for other classes … pvp gonna be lit

[tough portal]

Ima be honest "no shit" as the example of him being rude goes hard

No word of a lie that's a good pull

[thorn plover]

I'm crine

[true fjord]

this is your peak

hows it feel

[marsh prism]

lol

[pulsar jewel]

I think you need to grow up a bit if you are offended by no shit

[thorn plover]

Bud I peaked a long time ago. I'm fuckin washed

[true fjord]

its just not druid like behavior ngl

[thorn plover]

Lmao

[tough portal]

[pseudo mica]

any knowers about this? I dont see anything in pinned

[tough portal]

Druid is a Godless class every since Taylor Swift abandoned us

[thorn plover]

Spell damage will be better on Tuesday, yes

[torpid shore]

I think valid reaction to get offended by your comments

Just read them lmfoa

[pseudo mica]

would that make spell damage better than cat? or at least similar level

dps wise

[thorn plover]

Better

[marsh prism]

better unfortunately

but good for you

[tough portal]

No yeah I mean some of it I dont blame elusivv much, altho to my eyes it was all fair game.
But picking "no shit" was rly good

[pseudo mica]

would u advice getting starsurge and sunfire or only stick to moonfire and HOTW?

kinda struggling for points

[tough portal]

What does your talent build look like rn?

Just copy whatever is on wowhead by tuesday mate tbh

[pulsar jewel]

Surely cat would still be better for those little burst niches?

Few that they are

[tough portal]

If you cant find points for Starsurge you're probably building up something demonic

[tough portal]

Oh sweet summer child

[thorn plover]

That's a word I haven't heard in a bit

Demonic

My old raid leader used to say it constantly

[pulsar jewel]

Amagads so rude

[marsh prism]

amanda

[pulsar jewel]

Amanda works too 😂

[pseudo mica]

I was running killer instinct 1/2 should prolly drop that ig

idk how to fit forestwalk do I just drop it

[marsh prism]

roar

[tough portal]

Innervate is pointless, Fluid Form lowkey also pointless, 1 min Roar very often is pointless

[slow pasture]

No forest walk or UV

[true fjord]

what exactly was fair game? i didnt really do anything to this person they kinda just came at me because i had a different opinion lol

[marsh prism]

typhoon cd also ?

[true fjord]

one that, by the time i researched logs and saw the data i changed, and after realizing this they say this

[true fjord]

this

and you think im not gonna say something for someone checking me

lol

[tough portal]

Right, I didnt think he was 'coming at you' is all. It all read fairly mild.

[marsh prism]

move on

[true fjord]

all good, peace

[pseudo mica]

isnt moonkining to HOTW rly awkward without fluid form? bcuz of the gcd