resto

[thorn plover]

Chest ez

[slender gust]

@main timber I ran the clanker on my vault twice. Once for raid and once for dungeon. What is the difference in prioritization for QE sims between the 2?

[main timber]

Mate you can DM me if you like but I'm getting about 50 DMs / minute right now

[thorn whale]

Voulk on vault day

[wise seal]

dumb question but I want the gold one right? The silver one shows higher recipe difficulty so its throwing me off. sry im new 😄

[main timber]

If your question requires more than a 1 sentence reply you might be better off asking later

[urban token]

feels kinda bad to replace 289, figured i'd wait until I got npx chest in vault and send that

[thorn plover]

Good luck with that

[fierce isle]

Highest rank makes it so they can craft without concentration. Most crafers expect max rank

[thorn plover]

Not sure why you would have sent myth crests on that chest

[unique frigate]

Question for raid resto: Is emperwing feather on use best used with a particular cd, or is it better to use outside of cds because convoke and tranq are both channels?

[wise seal]

oh that makes sense, so the lower difficulty one is just easier for them to craft. ty

[atomic axle]

Thanks a lot for your great work Voulk

[urban token]

because it was like week 2 and minimally worse than the alternative

[atomic axle]

Means the world to all of us

[slender gust]

Aight, I'll DM you at...not right after reset

QE is amazing. Healers are so fkn spoiled man

I heard someone say QE bad the other day and I wanted to personally fight them

[tough portal]

The difficulty diff matters for crafting, usually you'll need full highest quality mats to let people craft without spending a limited resource for you

Do max rank i.e. gold, not lowest rank. You want +5 difficulty, not +15

[zenith tide]

Guys, would you take myth track emerald coaches whistle, or hero track lorewalkers out of vault? 😁

[fierce isle]

Meh

[zenith tide]

Not too big of a diff?

[plain steeple]

Show your grey logs.

[slender gust]

Last I looked, Hero Lorewalkers is significantly better than any other dungeon trink at myth except maybe Heart of Wind

[main timber]

Healers had non-existent tools for so long that it took a while to embed in the community

Opinions like this are much rarer nowadays though

[zenith tide]

Hell yeah thank you for the info I tried looking but couldn't find it

[jovial ridge]

Hey guys, need a second opinion on vault choice (Resto Druid, mostly M+ focus).

Current situation:

Using a 285 crafted staff (haste/mastery) with embellishment

Vault weapon is mythic and can go up to 289 (good stats, haste/mastery)

Also got a neck (haste/vers + avoidance)

And tier shoulders (minor upgrade)

My dilemma:
If I take the weapon, I can recraft embellishment on another slot (belt/cloak), so I wouldn’t lose it entirely. That would give me a 289 weapon + embellished piece elsewhere.

If I take the neck:

It’s basically my best M+ option (since haste/mastery neck is raid only)

Good long-term value and hard to replace

So it’s basically:
289 weapon + redistributed embellishment
vs
strong haste/vers neck (semi-BIS for M+)

What would you guys pick for high M+ push as resto?

Appreciate any insight

[slender gust]

My friend made this chart last night pullling from QE data

[main timber]

Run QE LIve and then drop your report in here so we can see your options

[solar hollow]

what should i get from my vault?

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/xxtzkuhnsnkk

[bright swift]

people not doing a single raid boss is crazy

[main timber]

Very interesting, they used the JSON file I'm guessing

[wide rose]

man

[slender gust]

I dunno how he did it, but we were talking about trinkets last night and how annoyed I was that all the dungeon trinks sucked, and I'm not killing M Alleria. He doesn't even play RDru, but decided to make a robot cook that up

[wild moth]

take wep + go double insight on bracer/cloak. that's the exact situation im in.

im doing 16s and dont need vers still

[wide rose]

theres no way i take a champion gaze

[proven phoenix]

man that is an awful vault

goddamn

[tough portal]

Long term the weapon is probably best
Short term it's probably shoulder because I imagine you're sitting on a bunch of unused crests and if you pick weapon you'll only use 20
We'll get a lot more myth items starting with next week because of bonus rolls, I'd take short term personally

[wide rose]

two in a row

[proven phoenix]

unironically maybe a socket there

theres just nothing good

[wide rose]

that was my last vault

[proven phoenix]

nothing even salvagable

at least that is like somewhat acceptable

there isnt a single useful item in your current vault

[wide rose]

[tough portal]

Bless your heart mate turbo boost will save your season

You'll bonus roll every good item I swear

[wide rose]

70h work week for me too last week, that vault wasn't free time wise

[main timber]

I have a weapon already so I opened as Bear, got two agi weapons and a tank trinket

[wide rose]

that neck is completely worthless right

[unreal linden]

Question on the resto changes, are the raid builds skipping apex worse overall now?

[proven phoenix]

can u yell at someone about how vault works

like legit

u should never get duplicate slots man I cba

I got 4 trinkets last vault

3 cloaks

[thorn plover]

Those changes are next week, also see the pin

[unreal linden]

Oh thank you.

[fierce isle]

Rip :*(

[solar hollow]

QE says the wep is a .34 % upgrade. And then I can craft an embellishment elsewhere.

I could pick up the mythic tier chest as an ilvl upgrade to replace my hero maledict vest and and just wear 5pc tier

[fierce isle]

Tier Chest is bleh

[wide rose]

i got 4 trinkets in my myth line so far all useless but i opened on tank last week

[thorn plover]

Don't take the tier chest

[solar hollow]

so the wep? or my 2nd socket?

[tough portal]

Weapon is good

[wide rose]

im still taking the neck i guess

[tough portal]

Yeah I think you do

It's not that bad

[wide rose]

yea

its int

i was holding my myth crest hoping something better than non bis bracers

to spend it on

and the gods were laughing

[solar hollow]

If i upgrade a mythic 2H with myth crests, will that discount me future myth crests if I want to upgrade a mythic MH + OH down the line?

[wide rose]

i'll run normal and try to grab gaze from the 25 other people copium

[thorn plover]

Everything is for sale for the right price

Sold an lfr gaze for 300k this week

[limpid jacinth]

Wow.

[grizzled seal]

buying lfr gaze is insane

[oak garnet]

I'm surprised you did lfr more than anything

[limpid jacinth]

I haven’t set foot in LFR for like three expacs but now I’m tempted.

[thorn plover]

I do it to sell gaze

That's it

[nova torrent]

would you get final stare to replace litany or heart of wind? or just go socket. all 3 m track stink for me

[main timber]

BiS trinket syndrome

They see it is BiS and spend 300k on LFR version that loses to most world quest trinkets

[oak garnet]

Or crucible

[blissful goblet]

I didn’t realize there was 2, I’m not even sure I’ve been to the horde area whoopsies

[tough portal]

Would take a myth item upgrade if you dont have a myth helm yet

[nova torrent]

i do

[wide rose]

i dont think id ever buy content in an mmo tbh

[nova torrent]

have helm, crafted 2h so dont need oh, and have bis m bracers

[spare sand]

do you guys keep symbiotic on tanks in m=?

[tough portal]

Damn. I think you take socket bro.

[nova torrent]

yea i think so

[half timber]

Yes

[tough portal]

I mean Vaelgor is a rly strong on-use trinket, it's certainly not bad, but I would take socket personally

[daring stag]

Should I replace crafted staff ilvl 285 with mythic Final Grade ilvl 289? is that an upgrade?

[nova torrent]

yea i dont mind litany and like heart of wind. obv was hoping for gaze but that just doesnt happen

[runic spire]

Anyone tested wildstalker in raid? How was it?

[tough portal]

Feel like Convoke and Tranq cover that type of high damage event well enough without an on-use, and Litany is better at doing something in between when you dont need to send a major healing cd just want to throw out something to help

[spare sand]

i was thinking since m+ tanks are self sufficient more and more is it even worth it to symbiotic them and not some squishy dps

[daring stag]

anyone know if this is an upgrade?

[oak garnet]

They still take by far the most damage, there's no way you get better value having it on anyone else

[tough portal]

It also doesnt have to be glued into them

[cobalt dove]

anyone know how to disable hots shown by default blizz on party frames? I use elvui and its showing double

[tough portal]

You can swap for some mechanics or some bosses that dont do much tank damage and have predictable damage on DPS

[wide rose]

does turbo boost drop myth track in m+?

i havent experienced it

[tough portal]

This turbo boost isnt the same as before

It'll give you bonus rolls

[gentle nova]

juiced up

[tough portal]

That are same ilvl as the vault in the content you roll it on

So if you roll on a +10 you get a +10 vault item from that dungeon

[wide rose]

oh ok so you can get myth from doing m+ directly then

hopefully i don't have too much work that week

[tough portal]

It's every week bestie

[fast snow]

Vault question: I have hero heart of wind and hero volatile void suffuser helm is currently hero tier. My options are
Mythic Volatile Void Suffuser
Heroic Locus-Walker’s Ribbon
Mythic tier helm

QELive says Ribbon is best, I stopped mythic raiding so likely not going to have mythic trinkets available outside of M+ moving forward. Trying to think if it’s better to take myth helm for the long term or get the ribbon now as BIS

[tough portal]

2 coins per week, rolling on dungeon spends 1, rolling on raid spends 2, is what I understand of it

[main timber]

Always just link your report with these so we can see

[wide rose]

when is that happening?

i'm looking for it but it's only showing TWW's version

[tough portal]

Next week, it's the Voidforge thing, if you havent been doing that weekly you should

[wide rose]

oh fuck

i didn't know that had a weekly

[fast snow]

Sorry, which report do you need linked the QELive export?

[tough portal]

There should be catch up I think

[main timber]

Just the URL works

[slow pasture]

Wait you have to full upgrade the forge linked to crucible in order to get those bonus roll ?

[wide rose]

surely this redditor isn't spreading misinformation

[tough portal]

No

Thats not the voidforge

[fast snow]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/oloxmxmppchi

[tough portal]

Crucible forge is next to rep quartermaster
Voidforge for bonus rolls is next to Decimus

[fast snow]

The catch is I didn’t like mythic raiding so after this week my only mythic options will be M+, will still heroic raid

[gentle nova]

yes theres catch up

you will just need to gather 12 shards in one week

[slow pasture]

I'll to have tl do chimaerus pug

[wide rose]

i had no idea about this pain peko

[tough portal]

Just leave your toon afk in the storm assaults no?

Idk if that'll work

Oh no

[wide rose]

if its 12 delve/m+ that'd done by doing my weeklies at least

[tough portal]

Thats the crucible

Yeah 12 delve/m+

[wide rose]

and or lfr

and normal

[fast snow]

I get locus walker ribbon is awesome but turning down a myth upgrade for it seems a little tough unless the thing is just that good

[slow pasture]

Shit i have to quest but i only m+/raid

[wide rose]

thanks for the info at least

ill start that today

vaults have been completely worthless so far

[sharp needle]

this is the trinket tier list. take the trinket

[main timber]

Standard vault day

[fast snow]

Yeah I guess I can, I just know it’s nice to lock down mythic tier pieces since you don’t change them out but I guess the ribbon is never getting changed out either

[sharp needle]

you are significantly more likely to get another mythic helm from vault than you are a mythic ribbon, tier is low prio

[fast snow]

It’s hero ribbon not mythic

[sharp needle]

ah, still

what content are you gonna do if not mythic raiding, hero raiding/m+?

[fast snow]

Have a choice between helm hero to myth or swapping hero suffuser for hero ribbon

I was mythic raiding, it’s not for me gonn do m+ and hero raiding and be a bit more chill

[sharp needle]

youre still gonna get many more helms in your vault than ribbon, it's almost never tier you take unless you get giga unlucky

[fast snow]

Stopped at only 4 mythic bosses

[sharp needle]

oh ya then go ribbon. ribbon's combat mech is less valuable in m+ if you're not in a coordinated group but it's still good, and it'll dominate the rest in heroic raiding

[dusk musk]

My friend has a question that idk the answer to but I feel like y’all will know. He’s a spriest—if he crafted a 285 2h, then takes a myth 1h in his vault + has a myth off hand, will both of them be free upgrade to 285? Or will he need to spend crests to upgrade?

[main timber]

If you are going to do mostly M+ then I wouldn't take a trinket that is better in raid

Tier helm is not a bad choice

[main timber]

Yeah free to 285

[tough portal]

Sometimes we should just take the item and move on with life tbh

[dusk musk]

For both 1h and OH?

[tough portal]

Dont sit there mulling this over for 3 hours bro just take one

[main timber]

Yes

[tough portal]

Helm is nice it'll never be replaced

[main timber]

You will still need to pay 20 each to get them to 289

[dusk musk]

Okay great, thanks! ❤️

[tough portal]

Maybe you get another vault where helm is the only decent option and you wasted a vault, guaranteed you get Ribbon and in the future you get myth trinkets that are better than hero Ribbon anyways

Neither is a perfect pick

But just take one yeah?

[gentle nova]

wait what

its unique?

thats an oversight

[pulsar hill]

What trinkets are peopel aiming to run in m+? Anything particularly goated?

[tough portal]

yes I remember this in beta

[sharp needle]

some go

[gentle nova]

@main timber !!

tellem

[tough portal]

Did you already craft 2 rings or what

[gentle nova]

no but i will

:3

[proven phoenix]

is neck actually a good craft

idk....

[tough portal]

Guess you wont.

[proven phoenix]

what if I get alleria neck

[gentle nova]

then craft ring

[silk ice]

If you’re vault lucky, because no way it goes to a healer

[gentle nova]

the magister ring is worse

and if u got any version of alleria thats op until next craft

well ig if you have lura ring thats diff

[slender gust]

When do u use Feather/Vaelgor's? Is it its own CD or do you pair it with Convoke/ToL?

[proven phoenix]

I can get alleria neck in any vault now right

even if I havent killed her that week

[gentle nova]

ye

[sacred sedge]

hey resto druids! I have a friend in my guild who mains resto and she seems to be having a hard time, as the GM I want to see her get better but I am unsure of what I could give to her regarding her logs that would help her improve. last week we had to cut her from raid which is a bummer and I would like to get her back on track so she can get AOTC with us and feel good about contributing to the raid. I have directed her to the wowhead and icyveins pages for more insight and offered to teach her how to look at logs, but as of now I do not understand enough about resto to be effective in pointing out the weakpoints or best opportunities for improvement, would anyone be willing to dive into her logs and give me some solid points advice that I could pass along to her, and of course I would give you all the credit for this! let me know and Ill dm you logs, thanks restos and thanks for keeping my dumb mage butt alive in keys ❤️

[main timber]

They might find this extremely useful https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/

[grand herald]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/ this will probably help

[sacred sedge]

❤️

[grand herald]

Most advice can be summed up as: cast more swiftmends, cast more wild growths, cast more regrowths, dont let lifebloom drop

[sacred sedge]

I feel like im gonna get enough advice here that I will end up becoming resto lol

[untold falcon]

not allowed i need my pocket mage, and thank you druid friends for the help

will read up on the link you shared

[grand herald]

Feel free to post a log whenever too

[fierce isle]

Man what should we spend our bonus rolls on. Probably myth chim for gaze if we haven’t gotten it?

[untold falcon]

i was just informed that i'm still on the prepatch talents - so i'm sure a change there is a good start

i haven't raided or done m+ since bfa so i'm essentially relearning how to raid (i also had the same struggles back then too which is why i stopped end game stuff)

[tough portal]

Oh hell yeah @proven phoenix your video is in that page now too we are the cutest or what

[proven phoenix]

which page...

[tough portal]

The common mistakes advice :c

[proven phoenix]

oh wtf

giga

I need to make more tho

[tough portal]

Yes

Need that Paladins pov soon

[silk ice]

[tough portal]

What was the boss you died twice on kill?

[proven phoenix]

paladins

[tough portal]

[silk ice]

Pala DN

[gentle nova]

Tomorrow bird dies surely

1% on everyone 😹

[rustic copper]

What’s the point

Gonna prog Lura without vantus?

[gentle nova]

Why not

[rustic copper]

[grizzled seal]

yeah? not like you are gonna kill lura in 3 raids lol

[gentle nova]

If we kill bird today we prolly kill lura next reset no?

Next week

[random comet]

Anyone know if it’s better to have 2 arcanoweave items or 1 hunt + 1 arcanoweave for crafted items?

[grizzled seal]

how much do you raid

[main timber]

1 hunt until you get a 289 weapon

[gentle nova]

4 times

[grizzled seal]

idk if 7 raids is even enough

after the nerfs

[random comet]

I’m going for my 3rd crafted item which is gonna be cape for context. Have wep and bracers already crafted so determining where the embellishments go

Assuming that changes nothing

[main timber]

You run 1x Hunt until you get a 289 weapon and then you run double Arcanoweave

[random comet]

🫡

[main timber]

(So that you can wear the big stick)

[late otter]

do i take the pants for the gold?

[sharp needle]

heart of wind ez

[waxen ingot]

how do you disable floating healing text

/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 0

doesnt work for me

[sharp needle]

disables damage too tho which is kinda annoying. none of the other common solutions people list have worked for me

[waxen ingot]

Wait can u not disable

the on on people?

[tough portal]

There's a 'v2' cvar

One sec

I'll get it for u

[waxen ingot]

face u were always my goat

[sharp needle]

if you toggle that off you wont see floaitng healing text on anyone

[waxen ingot]

even when we disagree on stuff

[waxen ingot]

nah

[tough portal]

[sharp needle]

?

[waxen ingot]

this still shows

[sharp needle]

screenshot your combat controls section

[random comet]

That looks like addon numbers

[tough portal]

It's actually just /console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing_v2

[waxen ingot]

<333333333

[solar hollow]

Does upgrading a mythic 2H to 6/6 give you a future discount on myth crests when upgrading a mythic MH + OH?

[tough portal]

And these exist too
/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealingAbsorbTarget_v2
/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealingAbsorbSelf_v2

[waxen ingot]

May i know where u find this stuff, since i googled before asking here

[fierce isle]

Yes

You get credit for maxing out both slots

[tough portal]

Advanced Interface Options has a searchable list of CVars

So I was just searching for some of these key words to find how to enable stuff

[solar hollow]

Is there a tier list for rdruid 2H and MH + OH combos? How high would a mythic Spire of the Furious Contruct rank on that tier list?

[lusty jolt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ckwg324jQGmrFdDt?fight=9&type=healing

A resto druid that i follow is still using apex talent for raid healing and he is actually a monster. 173k hps on paladins. Crazy shit

[thick scarab]

hello guys, is wildstalker much better than keeper in m+ or its close?

[final lark]

which one is putting the healing numbers on my character profile pic ?

[waxen ingot]

This is actually inflated by the fact his cohealers are not the best players

but yes he is playing pretty well

[main timber]

Niko plays Apex too doesn't he? Apex isn't a bad build despite what log popularity contests might show you

[tough portal]

Oof yeah that one is just a frame thing, you can make a quick addon to hide or set that scale to 0.01, or use an existing addon that does more than that, BetterBlizzFrames I think lets you hide it.

[waxen ingot]

Most top logs play apex on paladins

[final lark]

ty

[tough portal]

I have one for hiding it on the pet frame

[waxen ingot]

its very good for absorbs

[spark river]

I believe apex is more popular on paladins than on other bosses

[silk ice]

Helps with healing absorbs probably

[main timber]

it is but still sub 50%

[tough portal]

https://addon.bool.no/
Paste this onto this site, download and put in addons folder, I guess

PetHitIndicator:SetAlpha(0)
PlayerHitIndicator:SetAlpha(0)

Should work?! Not sure.
If not, LeatrixPlus or BetterBlizzFrames can get you sorted but those addons do more things ofc

[main timber]

It's like 10% better

[past tusk]

Would you take Regenerative Heartwood or Improved Swiftmend in m+?

[tough portal]

Yes

[gentle nova]

Rh

[tough portal]

Imp Swiftmend with Prosperity imo
RH with VI

[gentle nova]

RH is too good idk

[tough portal]

But I just take both rn manual Efflo ftw

Imp Swiftmend is not nothing when you arent using every Swiftmend on the healthiest target to perma extend hots

[gentle nova]

I press rh and the tank doesnt die

[main timber]

I still do not see the vision in improved swiftmend. That ability seems useless for healing

But I am a VI truther anyway

[final lark]

nice i already had leatrix plus installed and didn't realize it did this.

[tough portal]

Cheers

So other than the bugged log of a boomie player, these ppl preaching about moonkin weave dont even do real damage or what

Smh

Sunfire pressers

[pulsar kettle]

its also a 12? or am i wrong

[tough portal]

Yeah ofc

[pulsar kettle]

[tough portal]

I'm doing piss keys for vault idc about M+

Or this game

I'm a nihilist

[pulsar kettle]

idk man in 12s im watching netflix and wging off cd

[tough portal]

I'm doing 130k dps first pull

[pulsar kettle]

yeah i just dont really care

dps i play with are doing 800k same pull

[tough portal]

This is demonic to play tho

The whole 5 Regrowths proc thing

Annoying as shit

[sinful summit]

The extra regrowths from rampant and potg count
And i think there's some weird stuff going on because sometimes i get 2 insta casts from 2 regrowths

[tough portal]

Yes POTA and Rampant+Nature's Bounty

Are both driving up the procs

[sinful summit]

Oh bounty counts too

[tough portal]

You can alternate Regrowth -> double Starfire

[sinful summit]

That explains it

Yes

Interesting

[tough portal]

Cuz you can spell q a hard cast Starfire into an instant one and double buff it too

[sinful summit]

Yes ive noticed that

[tough portal]

Single most bug-driven damage rotation

[sinful summit]

Its very degen

[gentle nova]

what do i pick

[sinful summit]

Pretty useful for farming low keys

[tough portal]

I think VI vs Prosp plays a huge part in Imp Swiftmend being a meaningful contribution @main timber

Looking at some 'heal check' moments in VI vs Prosp logs it feels like Prosp logs get 50-70% more effective healing out of Swiftmend

[main timber]

Yeah obviously if you are shuttling every SM into the tank it's bad value

[bright swift]

tough o ne

[sinful summit]

Bugged starfire with doc is kinda degenerate but works really well if you dont need a lot of healing

[spark river]

Take gaze craft neck?

[tough portal]

Hero gaze?

No way

[spark river]

Oh its hero

Then neck surely

[lime grotto]

heroic locus-walker or myth shoulder/helmet? no mythic raids, m+ enjoyer

[whole horizon]

what did QE Live say

its almost certainly myth tier but you should sim it too

locus walker is really good for us

[bright swift]

oh it's a hero gaze

yeah for sure take neck then

[charred ruin]

Does somebody has a written guide whtch is up to date? iam trying to figure out where my issue is, 11 i can heal easily but 12.. i get rekt

[spark river]

There isnt really a big difference between an 11 and a 12

[main timber]

Wowhead is up to date

For 12s your problem is likely to just be not pressing enough buttons, or neglecting something like Swiftmend

[oak garnet]

Personally playing ND and prosperity with 2/2 tv (or nb on Skyreach or heavy triage encounters) feels 2x better than vi an just sending sm on tank l

I would try a build with prosp and get used to consuming your sotf to burst heal. Now this will change some come next week

[waxen ingot]

Would u go for mastery or haste flash at 40% haste ? :p

[charred ruin]

could u send the skill tree of that? 😄

[oak garnet]

It's just the recommended tree but put nature's bounty into 2/2 tv and change vi for prosp.

[waxen ingot]

@tough portal

do you play Elder Druid

[tough portal]

I wouldnt in a real key, no

It's too piss to lose healing over

Especially for cat

[waxen ingot]

20 buff seems big

unless im reading wrong

[tough portal]

Yeah it's 20% but it also desyncs over the course of a key very easily

From your cds

If you're doing a piss key ofc take it more damage

[waxen ingot]

ngl i miss timed a 18 by 2 seconds yday and now im looking at it

it would of timed it

[tough portal]

LMAO no bro dont do it

The healing talents have too much synergy

Thriving Veggie is huge tbh

+3s of Regrowth just does so much useful stuff
The healing and mastery stack uptime itself
Uptime for Swiftmend eat
Uptime for Symbiotic Bloom procs
Uptime for Imp Regrowth benefit when you dont have 10 Rejuvs out

[opaque maple]

So who’s changing to apex for raid? Even worth testing?

[fierce isle]

A lot of people are already running apex in raid.

[whole horizon]

when the change goes live we'll have to test it and see

tbd

[valid shale]

Does sotf have an internal CD?

[whole horizon]

nope

[late otter]

im chasing my tail on this one. H alleria neck w/Leech vs. M Heart of Wind

I still go M Heart right? And just craft a neck?

[whole horizon]

but yes

but also sim it

[livid shard]

2 things

1. Does Nature's Swiftness modify Regrowth casts from convoke?
2. How the actual can I shapeshift back into tree proc'ed by reforestation if I have to jump into travel form for a sec?

Thank you in advance

[late otter]

1 - yes

[toxic zephyr]

anyone know if dander frames has Npc frames ?

[late otter]

2 - idk if you can if youre not running TOL. if you are you just hit tol again.

not sure though

[livid shard]

Not running ToL And can't for the life of me figure out how I can get back

[rustic copper]

You can’t

[livid shard]

Okay, Imma stop being in stupid positions when I proc it then

[late otter]

i misread, my b

[severe shoal]

any1 can give me a m+ prosp build?

[grand herald]

Take the m+ build

Talent prosp

Wowhead or whatever

[grizzled seal]

neck for ilvl

[haughty ibex]

does any high iq expert knows if there is a hidden priority whenever I sm into reju/regrowth? like who’s it gonna target most likely

out of curiosity mainly

[late otter]

Is it not proximity?

[haughty ibex]

i got no clue i only play m+ so is not that big deal as it’s 3/5 people

but im curious how it works

[sharp needle]

i think it's just a smartheal decision

[whole horizon]

it will prefer injured targets, but there is no priority based on HP. it's either injured/not injured.

it's 20yd range from the target.

[fickle garden]

Is it best to hold swiftmend for reforest proc if you’re convoking soon or is it not too important

[whole horizon]

define "soon"

refo lasts 16s with KotG and you can Convoke on the last 3s if needed

[fickle garden]

~20s

[whole horizon]

20s is a long time, no

if you're missing refo by that much then it's just not meant to be

[fickle garden]

So otherwise don’t try to intentionally line them up unless it truely fits the window?

[whole horizon]

but like i said, you can Convoke at the end

[graceful ermine]

How do I make qelive allow me to max upgrade things without having the crests in my inventory?

[whole horizon]

so you could technically just hold that SM for 7 seconds, and that would still give you enough time to Convoke at the end of Refo if Convoke has 20s on CD

7s is still a long time to hold but i would personally hold it at that point

[fickle garden]

Seems more people using convoke in raid despite guides suggesting tol

So I’m trying to figure out timing to line up better

[main timber]

Eh the end bosses seem to be better for Tree

Also there is a big section on this in the guide

That I am not sure you read

[whole horizon]

with Control of the Dream you can also hold Convoke for a max of 15 seconds without losing CD value

[cedar niche]

Hey guys, dumb question in Raid who do I want to Lifebloom?

[fickle garden]

Which guide?

[main timber]

Definitely wowhead

[fickle garden]

I’ll double check I’ve only been doing Druid on my alt team raid so still getting back into the swing

[whole horizon]

usually yourself or a squishy/valuable player you know is always stacked with at least 2 other players at all times

[cedar niche]

Nice

[main timber]

You can definitely play Convoke everywhere, I am just saying it isn't as simple as the guide recommending Tree - it talks about both

[whole horizon]

tank is sometimes a good option, almost as often as they are not a good option. put some thought into who you choose.

i personally just LB myself unless i know the fight will require me to LB someone else. it's nice for healing absorbs, especially if you play with Apex.

[fast goblet]

question: what would be the best rotation for the Litany trinket?

[odd citrus]

Is using swiftmend super early in a m+ pull just to help you spread rejuv faster a normal thing to do?

[tough portal]

Yes

[sharp needle]

before the pull even if you're really about it

[tough portal]

Swiftmend is overloaded

Use it often

As often as possible

[coral bison]

Guys in Voras Myth, my RL told me to use convoke for dmg for firsts 30-35 sec. How? cat form and convoke?

[bright swift]

tell your RL to suck it

[coral bison]

lol

[bright swift]

there's 0 point in that with how little damage that does

[dry valve]

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH

[coral bison]

perfect xD ty ❤️

[rustic copper]

Healer dmg poggers

[gentle nova]

does rh healing count for phosy

@tough portal

[grizzled seal]

healer dmg on second boss on week 4 of the raid

HAHAHAHA

[keen wave]

do I care about seeing regrowth on frames or is it just noise?

[fickle garden]

Gays of the alnseer slay kween pop off sis yaaass mama

[dry valve]

[tough portal]

I dont think so

[ionic condor]

Hey, I have a question. For higeher M+ 3.6+ etc why is photosyntesis like mandatory? cause i feel like deforestation is stronger, but if im looking at top 250 rdudus only 6 ppl agree with me, can someone explain why its OP?

[fierce isle]

More blooms = more apex healing

[ionic condor]

so it's objectivly better?

[main timber]

Yes

If you did want Reforestation, and I'm not sure why you would, you wouldn't trade away this

[ionic condor]

But reforestation give me higher highs, better thruput at times no?

[tough portal]

It doesnt give you higher highs really

[ionic condor]

i can prep for a specific mechanic

[tough portal]

Reforestation loses a lot of benefit in M+ compared to raid

It's just a mobility talent really, in practice

[maiden plaza]

hey can anyone help, im not sure what to take. I have 285 crafted so the weapon is only 4 ilvl upgrade but I have on a 276 hero chest. What would you guys take?

[ionic condor]

hmm thats acctually true

thanks

[tough portal]

Is that 2nd chest haste mastery?

[maiden plaza]

yes the 2nd chest is haste mastery

[tough portal]

If it is, take ahste mastery chest.

100%

[rain oyster]

isnt that the seat chest with crit/vers

and that shadowdmg taken proc thingy

[proven phoenix]

yes

the only good chests are from xenas and skyreach I think

and that chest is not from either of those

[rustic copper]

Yes

There’s a talent for 40% crit when casting regrowth on someone with the hot

The hot heals for a lot

You want to spread the hot both in m+ and raid

All important reasons

[maiden plaza]

yeah i was looking at it wrong

its a crit verse chest yuck

so my only option is to take the weapon then?

the weapon is haste/mastery - heavy on mastery

[tough portal]

Yeah

It's not bad, you can craft a 3rd item this week to replace the embellished weapon

[valid shale]

In a mythic prog environment where CDs are scripted out, is convoke better to run than incarn?

[grand herald]

Not particularly

Convoke is good yeah, but tol is also solid

Also rdruid cds are pretty much just use on cd

[lethal adder]

hi im new to resto druid littleraly first time trying it as a alt this expantion anyone got any general tips on healing m+ im 254 ilvl atm but only healing for like 40k overall

[sharp needle]

this and the wowhead guide are good starting points. 40k hps overall isn't necessarily a bad thing if people aren't dying/you're not struggling. https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

[thorn plover]

Read the guide, read the common mistakes link

[lethal adder]

ok thank you

[sharp needle]

np

[livid hearth]

how does 4 dungeons for weekly vault calculated if i done different difficulties

[sharp needle]

lowest common denominator

[livid hearth]

then we did 2 4 6 keys

so even if we time a 9 as last dungeon

we wont get 9 loot

we will still get 2

so its better if we do a +2 now then?

[grizzled seal]

you get vault for the 4th highest key you've done

[sharp needle]

you'll get hero loot in your single slot

[livid hearth]

we can do the +9 for dungeon drop but weekly vault wont be better if we did 9 compared to 2 im guessing

[sharp needle]

dealer's choice, it's tuesday unless we're doing EU so you have some time

[grizzled seal]

if you've done 9 4 4 2, you get the reward for the highest key in the first slot (9) and for the fourth highest key (2) in the second slot

[livid hearth]

ahh so first slot gives 9

ur right

[exotic magnet]

is it goofy of me to specifically not want to kill vorasius so i'm more likely to see gaze in my vault? (pugged m chim/imperator this past week)

[sharp needle]

i think goofy yes

[proven phoenix]

no thats fine tbh

if u dont want any vorasius items and you've never killed him before

[unreal lichen]

Hi all :) I'm getting my resto druid up and running now my MW is pretty much maxxed out for the time being.
How do you manage spot healing? When multiple people not dodge stuff and end up being 10-25% because of it

[proven phoenix]

just do 2 bosses including chimaerus

[grand herald]

Press RG

But, m+ or raid?

[unreal lichen]

M+

[grand herald]

Then you can also leverage the apex talents

A SM rg with the blooms will burst hard

[rustic copper]

Don’t kill until you’re confident in getting 3 voidspire bosses

It’ll permanently unlock vorasius loot if you ever kill

[exotic magnet]

yeah, that's what I was thinking

how are vora/saladhaar compared to chim? both chim and imperator felt super straightforward once I was in groups w/ sufficient dps

think the blocker is mostly the saved instance (much easier to get two bosses piecemeal than assume a group will stick together for imperator->saladhaar)

[loud stream]

Hey guys!
Do you think there's any high value craft I should go for right now, or better to hold for future upgrades?

[sharp needle]

maybe ring?

[unreal lichen]

Cheer :) I'll be a bit more mindful when proccing my SotF

[rustic copper]

Quite a bit harder

Wait till we get turbo boost

[bleak summit]

"Which one would you play in M+, the two I have, or should I replace Ruban with the Litany or the Dragon's Head?"

[cerulean hill]

Just checked some top resto logs, why do a lot of them let lifebloom drop off? I thought we always want to refresh so we keep the three stacks

[exotic magnet]

sage advice, ty

[molten elk]

Roughly what is the value of a socket these days?

[fierce isle]

Top = \ = good

You can have really poor performing co healers and get a super high parse

[pulsar hill]

What to upgrade first? Shoulder, Gloves, Boots or Rings, Neck?

[tough portal]

Because they're not canonical representation of best play

[fierce isle]

I think jewelry is the play. At least neck and one ring

[tough portal]

Top parses especially when bosses have been farmed 3 or 4 times are typically good players but not necessarily perfect, doing something circumstantial like dropping healers or cheesing some self healing or stuff like that to proper themselves up in some way.

[sharp needle]

is this s tier?

[fierce isle]

38 too much

[sharp needle]

fack

[rustic copper]

Yep

Break 4p

[swift fractal]

Is it worth it to take a bad stat'd chest if its myth and you have champ?

[grizzled seal]

Dont listen to Niko

[sharp needle]

are your other vault pieces any good?

in general yes that's fine but have to weigh it against other choices

[swift fractal]

No the other options are also bad

[slow pasture]

Did you put em in QElive ?

[swift fractal]

I did and it said to do chest but I wanted to make sure

[sharp needle]

ya you're fine then. int >>

[tough portal]

It's not the end of the world, as long as it isnt crit vers it's prob a decent upgrade

[rustic copper]

It might be worth taking a socket and crafting a chest

Chet’s is rly rly bad

And it’s not int >> this season

[slow pasture]

Only 7h to wait until i open a shitty vault

[rustic copper]

If it is crit vers*

[tough portal]

Crafting chest and not taking +16 ilvl from vault is bad

[swift fractal]

Its the tier chest so crit/mast but I have 4 set from the other items

[tough portal]

They're wearing a champion item mate they arent getting mythic raid kills rn

[slow pasture]

Well it depends also of what was the previous chesr

[tough portal]

So high chances that they dont have stuff to spend all myth crests on

If you dont take a vault item

So they'll be lower ilvl along with it, that's a downgrade

[rustic copper]

I simmed a crit vers + 1 track chest as a sidegrade to haste mastery this season

[tough portal]

Yeah I said as long as it isnt crit vers

[rustic copper]

Was <.1%

[tough portal]

[slow pasture]

Yeah. If you don’t do mm raid. You sit on crest

[tough portal]

Tier chest is very heavy crit but if you're only doing M+ mainly it's less bad.

[rustic copper]

How many items can you dinar next week

[tough portal]

If it's an upgrade over your current chest you take it and craft a dif slot

[slow pasture]

2 in m+ 1 in raid

[rustic copper]

That’s probably enough to spend crest cap for most people tbh

[tough portal]

If they get 2 good ones

[jovial tartan]

should i just upgrade or wait until i get hero track legs? i already have 3 crafted items and have avail 100 more crests to reach cap

[slow pasture]

I'll have to do Chimaeron mm with pug for gaze. I'm afraid

[nocturne vortex]

if im an engineer should i put points into making wrists just so i can have an extra piece of crafted myth gear?

[distant birch]

I would wait for hero

[flint void]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qLQJVZ3j4vkD12Bg anything i could have done to save the dh/war during second boss

[slow pasture]

The OS or the fact he died in 6s without any direct heal ?

[flint void]

at 21:19

[slow pasture]

Well. Heak him.

You could have sm him/ rg him even NS+RG / tranq

[flint void]

there were 2 of them at the same moment, i was

[pulsar kettle]

i mean you didnt heal the dh at all

[slow pasture]

Not even a wg out

[slender violet]

crafting neck. are these worth it? i feel like i would have to move my embelishment to my neck from my cape for this to matter

[grand herald]

You only get 2 embellishments

[slender violet]

actually nvm i can't move the embelishment. i have no other crafter jewerly

yeah

[tough portal]

This is not a good effect

[slow pasture]

You had SM up during the 6s he died

[tough portal]

21:19 you just didnt cast Swiftmend for that whole Flare cast,

You should get in the flare btw

'-'

[hallow monolith]

Does NS + Convoke still work?

[flint void]

should do yes

[gentle nova]

this spec cant be real

XD

[mental belfry]

tranq later, dont waste convoke on the 2 person dot, but i think the aug/DH fucked up here. You dumped ironbark & Lb on the tank who isnt standing in the beam prior to it so you spent 3-5 globals healing a guy who doesnt need healing.

[wide rose]

Do we get a spark for crafting this week or is it next week

[flint void]

not an aug

[thorn whale]

It’s not the highest hps build but yeah that SG build is stupid

[mental belfry]

tanks shouldnt need any healign during any boss fight

[flint void]

SG build is stupid yeah

you don't even cast renewing mist

[thorn whale]

I think the RWF SG build might

[silk ice]

More spell power scaling than holy light, at 1/3 the mana cost

[slow pasture]

There's a few where you have to heal them. But LB does the job

[silk ice]

• they have mana tea

[slow pasture]

As it was said. Don’t waste your convoke for the dot. Xast WG just before the flarz and sm+rejuv then convoke if you don’t feel you can keep up the dmg

[mental belfry]

litterally only crawth bleed. LB should be on anyone else during any & every boss fight.

[sinful jackal]

Why is this

Incidental healing will heal them or do all tanks have like regen these days

[grand herald]

All tanks should generally be able to handle their own survivability 90% of the time

[vocal sage]

QE Live isn't recommending crafting chest, it recommends ring as top +0.64%, or wrist at +0.51%. Given that it's unlikely I'm getting a myth ring drop any time soon, is ring the right play? Feels weird

[rustic copper]

What’s your current chest? And what are your embellishments?

[sinful jackal]

Huh, interesting

[vocal sage]

Hero 6/6 Maledict Vest. I have hunt on weapon and arcano lining on boots

[grand herald]

Are all these slots currently hero grade?

[vocal sage]

Yeah

[slow pasture]

On boss. Trash is another thing

[main timber]

Just always link report or we are not able to help easily

[grand herald]

Even then, I think 90% is a good estimation

[vocal sage]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/upgradereport/ywfrtzehrvzq

[grand herald]

That 10% is cds running out on a big pull or dangerous tank busters

[livid hearth]

my friend forgot to turn in the weekly dungeon quest

if he sleep on it, can he still turn in after reset? As long as he done the requirement and only the question mark turn in was left?

[slow pasture]

Maybe my pugs tank are shit then. I feel if i don’t let the lb on them they are dying

[tough portal]

Quest will be gone

[thorn plover]

no he loses it

[livid hearth]

ok, will try to make him turn in if possible._

I got 276 ring from it, but my other rings that are lower ilvl dont become free to upgrade until i get second ring that are higher ilvl?

[whole moth]

Pretty surprised that QE live says 13 ilvls > leech on boots

[main timber]

Why

[thorn plover]

🤨

[whole moth]

Thought rule of thumb was leech was 15 ilvls

And it's just boots so not much int

[grizzled seal]

5 years ago

[whole moth]

Yeah... I haven't healed in a minute =/

[main timber]

Leech value got cut in half at some point

[whole moth]

Makes sense

Yeah I got kinda stuck taking bad vers mastery boots this week. A bit bummed

[vocal sage]

Gonna craft ring I think

[grizzled seal]

You can catalyze the boots

Not sure what stats are on them

[livid hearth]

Do 1 higher ilvl ring not make lower ilvl ring upgrades free? Do i need 2 higher ilvl ring to make lower ilvl ring to upgrade for free?

[whole moth]

haste crit

Not much better

But better apparently

[grizzled seal]

High haste or high crit?

[grizzled seal]

Yeah you need both

[whole moth]

81 haste 50 crit at 289

[grizzled seal]

Not too bad

[indigo inlet]

is double arcanoweave better then darkmoon hunt? or is that only if i have a 289 myth weapon

[gentle nova]

Crit isnt worthless

[grizzled seal]

It is however the worst stat objectively

[gentle nova]

You play at 8 abundance the whole fight

[grand herald]

Id throw your situation into QElive

[grizzled seal]

That still puts your average crit at way higher value than any other stat

[gentle nova]

Sure but ppl tend to think if they get any crit its useless

[grizzled seal]

If you had that much mastery you wouldn't use any mastery anymore

It was never completely useless anyway

[tough portal]

You really should get in the flare btw, it's a 30% healing amp for you.
Other than that, no Swiftmends for 20s before the double death to Flare while playing Prosperity
The death at 20:07 and the one at 26:02 are mispositioning by the tank and whoever got in the beam before the tank, the Dreadflail cleaved them down.

[grizzled seal]

It was always bad because regrowth had abundance and nothing changed there

Mastery is still overpowered and haste is still overpowered

Nothing changed there either

[gentle nova]

Except in past tiers you played at capped abundance the whole fight

That changed

[grizzled seal]

You also had much lower regrowth healing

I'm pretty sure for Niko this tier crit is worse than it was for him last tier if we account for that

Wouldnt be surprised with his 45% regrowth logs

[gentle nova]

Niko plays at 6

[grizzled seal]

Cap

[gentle nova]

#resto message

[grizzled seal]

Is that a log screenshot?

[rustic copper]

lol no shot

Going from 90 to 100% crit is much less bad than going from 100% to 110%

[grizzled seal]

How much of your healing was regrowth last tier?

[rustic copper]

I was like 11.5+ avg abundance probably

[grizzled seal]

That's only true if the portion of your healing that has 100% crit is the same

[rustic copper]

I think it was highest heal

I’m not at 12 that often anymore

Not really outside of lust or lucky convokes

[grizzled seal]

If you did 1% of your total healing with regrowth back then with 100% crit and do 99% of your total healing with regrowth now with 50% crit then crit is worse now

As an exaggerated example

[rustic copper]

Yeah but it was my favorite button to press last season too

We also got rg crit effect bonus

[grizzled seal]

That's completely irrelevant to what I'm talking about

[rustic copper]

It was a high % last tier too wdym irrelevant

[grizzled seal]

Post abundance stacks and regrowth percent

Without numbers we are just yapping past each other

[rustic copper]

Not at pc

[grizzled seal]

Irrelevant in the sense that your feelings about a spell do not affect stat weights

[rustic copper]

I’m equipping only haste mastery items

From now on

[cedar niche]

Guys. Question next week with enough sparks. What do we wanna wear or can we wear set and weapon?

[gentle nova]

Gl with that cause no gloves exist

[rustic copper]

I’ll craft gloves eventually

Gloves belt crafted slots

[reef zenith]

asking now ahead of vault in Europe tomorrow - balance better than resto for vault if willing to be open to weapon? Aka if not full send on guardian? Feels like there's quite a few healer only trinkets that can drop from loot pool

[gentle nova]

Gloves belt rings neck boots

[rustic copper]

Boots have boe, ring has many m+ options and 2 raid rings, neck has 2 raid

[grizzled seal]

Lura neck dumpsters every other neck by such a large margin

[gentle nova]

Crafted rings have better distribution

[grizzled seal]

Not using Lura neck is actually very close to trolling

[gentle nova]

What lura neck

[grizzled seal]

Double socket haste mastery

[vocal sage]

I have set hands with leech in vault, but I also have a shit helm I can catalyst. If hand piece drops from Vorasius later then I will get the hand there anyway so I'm thinking I sit on vault until after raid

[gentle nova]

I didnt see that neck wtf

[abstract tulip]

Is anyone’s mythic raid running 5 heals? Or is that idea laughable

[grizzled seal]

[rustic copper]

I’m ok with Lura neck or crown neck

[grizzled seal]

Lura neck is far better

Stop trolling

Look up how many stats there are on a socket

[rustic copper]

I think I get less mastery value though

[gentle nova]

Well i dont have lura neck

[grizzled seal]

Yes but you are talking about bis

[proven phoenix]

once I kill lura i dont care what neck I have equipped

so im coining alleria

[grizzled seal]

Always wait for farm before taking vault if you have not obvious vault

[gentle nova]

Same

[proven phoenix]

alleria also has coin value for ribbon

[vocal sage]

Yeah thought so, thanks Torty

[grizzled seal]

Bruh

[glossy rose]

we can’t proc alleria neck right? people are just wanting it for the stats ?

[grizzled seal]

Have you considered coining a boss that drops two double socket pieces of jewelry?

[gentle nova]

Coining an heroic boss man

[grizzled seal]

You don't even have coins yet man

You realise you are talking about the future

[gentle nova]

You aint killing lura next week tho

[grizzled seal]

You don't have coins next week

[rustic copper]

Lura has 4 items you want

[grizzled seal]

Oh you do

I don't

[gentle nova]

[grizzled seal]

You can use one coin on alleria

[gentle nova]

And the other coin on chim

[tough portal]

Raid boss uses both coins

[gentle nova]

Easy

[grizzled seal]

I'm not coining chim lmao

[gentle nova]

What else

[grizzled seal]

Maybe 6 weeks in the future

[gentle nova]

Nexus point

[grizzled seal]

Lura

Keep up

[abstract tulip]

He wants the neck can’t you see?!

[gentle nova]

You get coins every week

[grizzled seal]

You can only coin one boss per week

Or two dungeons

[tough portal]

So what are you coining week 1 of patch?

[gentle nova]

Nexus point

[rustic copper]

Why

[abstract tulip]

I have all the gear from m+ already unless it starts dropping mythic quality …

[rustic copper]

How many crests do you have

[smoky sail]

You throw coins on nexus point chest or you are trolling

[grizzled seal]

Week 1 alleria, week 2 either Lura or alleria depending if we killed Lura then

[thorn plover]

nexus point ring

[grizzled seal]

I'm not coining fucking dungeons when I can coin 4/6 myth items

[gentle nova]

A lot

[grizzled seal]

You guys need to read up on upgrade system

[thorn whale]

😂

[grizzled seal]

Crazy shit happening in the chat rn

[main timber]

It will via bonus rolls

[thorn whale]

I prefer sending crests into the void too

[gentle nova]

Im not in for alleria

[abstract tulip]

Ah thank u voulk

[gentle nova]

[spark river]

but imagine if you coin chest and ring from nexus point in the same week

[main timber]

Mythic raiders will likely just coin Mythic bosses yeah, but heroic raiders might coin dungeons

Or alts

[abstract tulip]

I enjoy the coin bonus glad it’s back

[grizzled seal]

Yeah then you are a clown as a mythic raider

If I detect any of my raiders coining some dogshit dungeon loot instead of higher tier mythic items

I'm flaming them

[abstract tulip]

It surges a dose of dopamine and then either immediately gets shattered or rewarded!

[thorn plover]

im coining lfr gaze

[main timber]

Alleria looked like a good coin boss but if you are a slower guild I am less certain

[spark river]

chimaerus if you are a slower guild for sure

[abstract tulip]

My guild has decided to start mythic next week- even though a handful of us have pugged 1st two. But he created a roster of 5 healers.. I thought everyone was taking only 4? Bc dps checks were so tight

[main timber]

Chim is 4 items but 3 are playable

[spark river]

belt isnt bad at all from chim

[grizzled seal]

I already don't have enough crests and they gave me only 2 items in the raid

[spark river]

some crit but its high haste

[grizzled seal]

We have people who got 4-5 items in the raid

I'm not even crafting next week

[rain oyster]

what do you mean by roster of 5? like in your guild total or for every boss?

[main timber]

Hmm I think it is quite grim after Chim until Alleria

[smoky sail]

Paladins cuz of ring?

But dunno the rest of the loot pool

[spark river]

ring is high mastery

low haste

[abstract tulip]

We’ve been raiding heroic with full 30. He made a 20 man roster and there’s five healers.

[thorn plover]

you only need 4 heals except for paladins, and likely 4 is fine by the time you are there

you can 3 heal most the fights now

[grand herald]

5 heals every boss sounds like trolling

[thorn plover]

big time

[grand herald]

Trying to make up for bad mechanics with pure healing?

[spark river]

Most likely the dps is also bad if the mechanics are bad

So it further doesnt make sense

[abstract tulip]

I’ll see if I can get it fixed but I think we will struggle I’m worried

I usually just go boomkin but then the other healers forget to tank heal

[thorn plover]

if one or two is flex thats fine, but just straight up bringing 5 is bad

[abstract tulip]

Actually, I do need some raid healing advice. I think I make bad decisions during raid and my HPS suffers a lot.

[thorn whale]

Unless you’re getting a socket that is 💀

[grand herald]

Have you checked the common mistakes page?

[abstract tulip]

Yeah, but I’ve been healing for so long. I think it’s in my decision-making and split second moments and the fact we 5 heal everything.

New trinkets help significantly, but I’m still 30 K behind everyone else

[grand herald]

Ill be honest

[rustic copper]

Yeah if you have crests you need to spend this week you’re cooked idk

You can craft another item this week too

[grand herald]

You can heal brain off 0 decision making other than pressing buttons and be fine 99% of the time

[rustic copper]

Spending coins on 0 ilvl upgrades

[grand herald]

Post logs if you want more constructive advice

[urban kestrel]

I just go socketed bracers right?

[spark river]

umm

heart of wind?

Or you got something better?

[urban kestrel]

I have gaze and salhadaar on myth

[spark river]

Probably socketed bracers then

[cinder marsh]

those wrists the haste mast ones?

[spark river]

Sim it anyway

[cobalt pawn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/congrats-nice

[abstract tulip]

lol excited to see what’s in my box I’m almost home

[spark river]

Those are the haste/mastery bracers from academy yeah

[cinder marsh]

easiest choice right there

[abstract tulip]

We’ve been running with two holy priests and Evoker, a paladin and Retso Druid

[vocal sage]

Gah I have no idea what to craft

[scenic pilot]

Myth Tier shoulders over Hero Tier shoulders, Myth Bifurcation Band over similar champ ring, or Myth Haste/Mast Chest over Hero Chest
I feel like I could make arguments for all 3

[grand herald]

That chest is pretty good

[gentle charm]

guys generally we should be crafting chest, right? Got a random myth leg that i'd cata to tier or a perfect statted myth chest (no tier in that slot)

[grand herald]

We craft chest because a perf stated chest is not easy to get

[unique frigate]

Sorry if this was answered earlier, had to head to work shortly after I'd asked. In raid, when is the ideal time to pop Emberwing Feather trinket? With either convoke/tranq? Or is it better to use it outside of CDs, like maybe when ramping, because druid CDs are a channeled effect?

[gentle charm]

ah okay, so if simc says get the myth chest, its worth it to go for it?

and craft something else?

[grand herald]

100%

Chest is a high budget slot

[gentle charm]

roger thanks for the info

[grand herald]

You want as much ilvl on it as you can

[spark river]

how troll is it to open vault in guardian

whats the downside

[gentle charm]

no trinkets, chance at agi staff + agi trinkets if you get unlucky

[thorn whale]

No vaelgors

That’s about it

And from m+ it’s trinkets and weapon, but you run the same risk if opening in resto/balance

Dogwater trinkets and many more weapons

[spark river]

Just thinking about my best chance to luck into a gaze tomorrow

[thorn whale]

Guardian it is then

That’s how I got mine

[spark river]

Guess I ll do one experimental vault in guardian tomorrow then

worst thing I take a socket again

[thorn whale]

Make sure to @me when you open gaze

[spark river]

Will do

I ll upgrade it to 289 before that for sure

[thorn whale]

U got it

[scenic pilot]

I always open Guardian, but I also only have good M+ rows

at least until a 4 ivl weapon upgrade is worth it

[dense lantern]

oh yeah btw kinda necroposting but wclogs uploader and archon app are the exact same app

[thorn plover]

did a delve, forgot to use map

rip

[spark river]

old man

[soft eagle]

Hi! I'm doing 17-18s in pugs and I'm trying to find out the "recommended" % for Versa to survive higher keys. Is murlok a reliable source for that? any suggestions?

[abstract tulip]

it sucks being crest capped. i can only gain 100 crests this week and thats like 1 heroic piece fomr 3/6 to 6/6

[thorn plover]

https://not-even-close.com/

[abstract tulip]

oh neat website purrformance!

[main timber]

You generally wont "need" any vers to survive non-WF keys

If it was required for your 17s then the people doing 20s would need 60%+ more vers

[soft eagle]

I'm aiming title this season so I hope I can do 20-21s (or higher) when turbo boost comes

So I'd need more versa than usual, no?

[main timber]

You can evaluate that when you are on those key levels but yes that site is good

[spark river]

Most druids on beta had 10-15 % vers on 20s

[soft eagle]

ty, I'm trying that rn

[spark river]

So its an easier stat shift than it used to be

[abstract tulip]

get some pocket avoidance peices too!

[hardy canopy]

just go bear form and survive anything

literally

[soft eagle]

not a lie, I loved that website lol good to know

[haughty ibex]

bear form + ursine vigor makes u survive basically anything tho no?

[thorn plover]

1 more week and done with hero crests

[reef stratus]

Good to know cause I still have issues where my live log wont post incomplete dungeon somehow, but uploading the log after does

[soft eagle]

yep yep

[cursive pilot]

Got a champ ring and cape, which would be good myth craft

[thorn plover]

do you raid

[cursive pilot]

ye

[thorn plover]

our only cloak is off myth dragons

[cursive pilot]

yeah i been wearing the norm one lmao

always lost the heroic

3 rings I could potentially get

[brisk meteor]

Are items you get in your vault removed from the loot pool in bonus rolls next week?

[thorn plover]

doesnt appear so, only items you bonus roll

but we dont actually know that for sure

[wide rose]

i crafted weapon and chest. the writeup says belt or boots after weapon boots would be by far the largest ilvl gain, i havent been getting lucky with NPX drops

[cursive pilot]

ig cape craft makes more sense since i can spam xen for omish if anything

[nocturne vortex]

if im an engineer should i craft wrists?

[late portal]

Is it stupid to take myth track frenzyroot cuffs from vault when I crafted bracers already lol

[grand herald]

Depends what your options are

[steel kraken]

sup guys,

id appreciate some advices

i got the dragon trink champion, and hearth of wind hero

and on my vault, ive got chimaerus hero trink, and myth hearth of wind

what is the best option long term?

[safe pine]

current trinkets

[thorn plover]

?

[wicked forum]

wgs from convoke triggers embrace of dreams?

[mental dew]

My lowest ilvl pieces are cloak and ring. Should I craft either?

[strong rover]

PLS HALP

[mental dew]

I have crafted wep and bracers

[thorn plover]

heart of wind

easy

[strong rover]

b-but QE says it does moar hps D:

[thorn plover]

theres a reason almost no one doing top keys is using litany

just sayin

[strong rover]

true

[spark river]

Does anyone have a good grid2 profile? Playing with my frames a bit.

[main timber]

The QE one is getting quite good so long as you dont mind horizontal frames

[mental dew]

Do we even craft the third piece or just save the crests for that void thing coming out next week

[thorn plover]

you dont need crests for that

[mental dew]

To upgrade them

[thorn plover]

uhhh i guess if you like sitting on crests

youre still not guaranteed to get a usable item

might be weeks before you bonus roll something usable

[mental dew]

That's what I was thinking, I don't know if you get an infinite amount or a set amount each week

[thorn plover]

2

[mental dew]

Ok

[thorn plover]

so 2 in dungeon or 1 in raid

per week

[gentle charm]

yo anyone know what 3400 is? like half 15/half 16?

[mental dew]

Well I already have crafted weapon and bracers. My lowest pieces are ring and cloak. Do I craft one over the other?

[thorn plover]

what chest do you have

[pulsar hill]

You shouldn't craft your lowest piece imo but biggest upgrade

[mental dew]

I have the chest from skyreach on myth track

[pulsar hill]

Anything that isn't heroic track is "free" in the sense that you can infinetely farm m+ until it drops

[torpid cairn]

3400 is exactly all 16

[mental dew]

I get what you're saying, but I have a really good chest and tier in the other slots

[gentle charm]

sheeesh i got some grinding to do

[pulsar hill]

So, what is more power? Something like boots or a ring?

[thorn plover]

sim it

[gentle charm]

ring has no int so it couldn't be more power?

[mental dew]

I guess I'll sim yeah

Should be boots or belt ig

I'll sim

Thanks everyone

[pulsar hill]

What are the current goat trinkets for m+?

[thorn plover]

gaze and ribbon likely

[wide rose]

actual maybe small upgrade from delve weekly hero

[main timber]

Would surprise me if that's an upgrade

[empty heath]

curious what ppl think here... current trinkets are hero and champ respectively -- vault options: Vaelgor's (hero) or a myth cloak w/ no mastery.

[gentle nova]

Does the cloak have haste

[empty heath]

yes but low haste high vers....

[gentle nova]

Take it imo better than nothing

[empty heath]

Is Vaelgor's really that crap?

[wide rose]

this is so sad

light of cosmic is that much better than GoL?

[tough portal]

I would imagine it is

The uptime on gift of light is abysmal

[wide rose]

i guess champion -> hero on trinkets isn't that much value

[tough portal]

10s on a 1 min icd

Well it's like if your waist randomly had halved 2ndaries right?

[wide rose]

more disenchanting xp

[tough portal]

When gift of light effect is piss

[wide rose]

ok yea simmed it. was still getting used to sims being a thing you have to do for gear in this game

which is cool that you can and should do it because of the complexity of upgrades

not a complaint

[main timber]

Final Fantasy wishes it had this kind of tooling

[wide rose]

my current setup is better

hey i didn't talk about ff

[proven phoenix]

lmao

its real lore tho

[wide rose]

its like poe and path of building

there are some parallels with poe in some stats its funny

prolly poe taking inspiration from wow games in general

i think i craft boots this week for sure

i have run nexus point +10 like a dozen times last week pensive

[main timber]

What size monitor is that out of curiosity

[wide rose]

oh it's vertical