resto

[night sorrel]

When is apex change? Tuesday ?

[thorn plover]

next tuesday

21st

[hazy spoke]

Alright so this is probably a bad idea for a build? Germ instead of reforestation?

[main timber]

We are still discussing the last few talents but that at the very least is not the build

[severe shoal]

whyd they nerf our apex now even less of a reason to run it in raid

[thorn plover]

its not a nerf

[rugged grail]

It's a huge buff

[thorn plover]

the post is misleading, they are quoting a change to a change that was only on ptr

[severe shoal]

so this isnt the change?

[thorn plover]

its a nerf from the original ptr change, but still a big buff to whats on live

[rugged grail]

Apex for us is 2 targets 30% heal

[thorn plover]

compare that to live

[hardy canopy]

i think we need a pin

[pulsar kettle]

nobody looks at pins anyways

[hardy canopy]

responding with a pin emoji is faster

[rapid halo]

😂

[hazy spoke]

There’s only 2-3 points you could really shift around anyway, idk how different the new builds going to be. Unless it’s just something out of left field like getting Waking Dream

[rapid halo]

I think most people will be way better off starting with the wowhead guide (has Apex) and going from there

[hazy spoke]

Isn’t flourish really good though?

[thorn plover]

were either dropping 1 min convoke, refo, or both

yeah i just forgot flourish there

[halcyon patrol]

getting rid of flourish is a very funny move

[thorn plover]

im not getting rid of flourish lol

[spare sand]

I miss old flourish

[thick summit]

more talent discourse. will we ever know peace...

[halcyon patrol]

no reforestation is kind of interesting too, feels like those windows are so mana efficient as well, combined with no master shapeshifter

[fervent mica]

it will just be back to apex build but with phosy instead of X

just don't know what X is yet <_<

[thorn plover]

dropping refo

playing wildstalker

[fervent mica]

likely

[thorn plover]

life is good

[halcyon patrol]

holy

[fervent mica]

most people aren't syncing it anyway

[rugged grail]

gigabrain

[halcyon patrol]

based

[fervent mica]

VI stonks waaay up though

[spare sand]

Yeah hate syncing refo with stuff

[rugged grail]

additional heal on Photosynthesis target as well from wildstalker to bait more procs

[fervent mica]

more procs and 20% more healing to that target which splashes...

[halcyon patrol]

even unsync'd refo is solid value

[fervent mica]

would be funny if its a thing

[thorn plover]

and if we need MS idk what we drop

[fervent mica]

embrace

obv

[thorn plover]

yeah

[rugged grail]

embrace for ms would be like the only way to go but I rather keep embrace

[thorn plover]

MS is needed for what, 2 fights?

[spare sand]

Which ones? Alleria and?

[thorn plover]

and with raid buffs starting tuesday we probably dont even need it

[rugged grail]

I kinda dig the wildstalker idea

[halcyon patrol]

there were some competitive WS logs for a bit

[rustic copper]

[halcyon patrol]

obviously on paper makes no sense numbers wise to run it atm

[rustic copper]

it isn't needed for any fight

[thorn plover]

i havent gotten far enough to think about needing it

im only assuming

[thorn plover]

after apex change it could edge ahead, obviously needs testing

[halcyon patrol]

yeah apex change is interesting

[rugged grail]

I hope it does, I really dig the flowers that sprout everywhere when you play as ws

and barkskin becomes pretty

[halcyon patrol]

if im not reading it wrong, isnt rdruid m+ just even better than before

[thorn plover]

yes lol

[halcyon patrol]

of all the changes im legit suprised to see more focus on it

[thorn plover]

no shot we dont catch some sort of nerf to go along with this

[rugged grail]

we shouldnt act too excited though they might add a nerf if we look too happy

[austere bloom]

as long as Jak doesnt put us in his new tier list video as giga S++++++

[halcyon patrol]

just make wildstalker bleeds also heal for full value so i can cat in raid or something

screw balance

[fervent mica]

wouldn't that screw feral? not balance?

[dry valve]

Does dyrad tranq proc flourish?

[fervent mica]

no

[dry valve]

Ty

[sacred wasp]

so it's all blooms despite the tooltip specifying final bloom?

[fervent mica]

every bloom is the final bloom

its just being triggered

[sacred wasp]

ah i see

bc lifebloom is originallyonly supposed to bloom on expiry/pandemic

[fervent mica]

correct

[sacred wasp]

that's funny

ty

[thorn plover]

there are like no top m+ druids using litany

that much a pita to use?

[sacred wasp]

it's so clunky

[thorn plover]

they shoulda left it where swipe/starfire proc'd the whole thing

[fervent mica]

i wouldn't be surprised if that change got reverted... if they ever look at if its being used

[main timber]

They still change it every week

[sacred wasp]

yk they should probably move away from calling it the final bloom huh

is there a scenario where that distinction matters

[nocturne vortex]

yeah its a bit confusing it should just say when lifebloom blooms

Everbloom (Rank 2) now heals for 25%/50% of Lifebloom’s final bloom on 6 allies (was heals all allies for 30%/60%, reduced beyond 5).
Everbloom (Rank 3) Blooming Frenzy now triggers 3 times (was 5).

only 3 times 😢

[sly pivot]

is swiftmend a bit buggy in the default CDM?

[main timber]

Long term I could see them just change how Lifebloom itself is worded to "when it expires, etc, trigger X" and then X is used in place of "blooms"

[abstract tulip]

when the changes actually happen can you put the info in the pins

[main timber]

of course

[rustic copper]

@bright swift @gentle nova 1st p2 healing

thoughts?

[gentle charm]

crown?

[rustic copper]

no burd

[urban bone]

Seems to work ok for me, what are you seeing

[night sorrel]

Question

in dreamrift / imperator ( mythic ) is there a way to get DandersFrames to show the dispels?

I got it for imperator - but had to select Direct API

and dreamrift I have no clue - we just had people saying their nam

name*

which was a hassle

[white sentinel]

How is this change a buff

[main timber]

It's a buff relative to live

It's probably a nerf relative to the old PTR version but that one wasn't working properly anyway it seemed

[white sentinel]

Is this a buff for raid and m+ or just raid

I dont see how it blooming 2 times less is a buff for m+

[main timber]

Both but larger in raid

[main timber]

Read the R2/3 change too

[spare sand]

Spread to whole m+ group stonks go up

[white sentinel]

Is the blooming frenzy counted as a final bloom?

[main timber]

Yes

[white sentinel]

Ok i see it now

[spare sand]

Treefuckers eating good this season

I like me some tree

[gentle nova]

thoughts?

im crazy

[spare sand]

What fight usnthat

[rustic copper]

link me logs or it's fake

heal absorbs double count

also what's your prog

[gentle nova]

almost 2nd egg

[rustic copper]

holy moly

vantus?

[gentle nova]

yes

[rustic copper]

everyone???

[gentle nova]

nah some

p1 is so shit

[rustic copper]

real

[gentle nova]

i just cant get a good ring

i did like 20 magisters this week

fuck that shit

[rustic copper]

which 2 should I wear

[rich gale]

I would sell my soul for an addon version of this cursor spells combo WA we had. RIP WA

[gentle nova]

idk i like mastery

[rustic copper]

my intermission ramp is absolutely vile

[grand herald]

You can just use the WA

[spare sand]

43%haste

Damn

Im getting to 39 max

[gentle nova]

this game kinda ez

[rich gale]

Oh did they bring WeakAuras back? Wha? Looking now

[thorn plover]

google m33kauras, download from github

[rich gale]

ty!

[solar hollow]

Hey friends. So i pugged Heroic Crown last night and noticed I was usually near or at the bottom of the healing meters. Can anyone take a look at my logs and help me understand what I could be doing better?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/F3Yv7rZfJKhDq96P?boss=3181&difficulty=4&wipes=1

I am Winoda

[thorn plover]

which one are you

[solar hollow]

Winoda

[thorn plover]

you arent pressing regrowth enough. your rejuv to regrowth should be 1:1
your lifebloom uptime is 62%, should be close to 100%
your swiftmend cpm is 2.2, should be close to 5
your overall cpm is only 37, should be close to 50

[solar hollow]

ok thank you. how many stacks of abundance should i build during ramp phase before spamming regrowths in the damage phase?

[grand herald]

build 12+ then go to ~6

[thorn plover]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/F3Yv7rZfJKhDq96P/12-Heroic+Crown+of+the+Cosmos+-+Wipe+12+(9:00)/5-Winoda/standard

[grand herald]

no hard and fast rule to it tho

[thorn plover]

read through this, might help a bit too

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/

[solar hollow]

thank you. are there any addons or weak auras that can help me improve my lifebloom uptime, swiftmend casts, abundnace stacks, etc?

[thorn plover]

LifebloomAlert
HoTTracker
will help with lifebloom and abundance

swiftmend you can set sound alerts in the blizzard cdm

to yell at you when its available to cast

[solar hollow]

should i be casting wild growth everytime its up?

[thorn plover]

more or less yes

its not as important, but you dont want to not cast it. aim for about 4 cpm

sm on cooldown. if youre running Verdant Infusion talent, send it on lifebloom target

definitely read through that common mistakes link, it talks about all of this

[solar hollow]

what fights is tree of life better and what fights is convoke better? ive been using convoke in every fight

[solar hollow]

will do

[night sorrel]

Just look at Warcraft logs

Per fight

And that’s gives u a good understanding of the average spec

[thorn plover]

you have to know what youre looking at or wcl is just gibberish

[clever cipher]

This apex change looks useless on face value

[thorn plover]

big buff

[clever cipher]

What is buffed about it? Is it not just random aoe healing when you refresh in pandemic?

[fickle garden]

https://tenor.com/view/sylvanas-windrunner-gif-18024907

[thorn plover]

all blooms

photo, sotf blooms, pandemic blooms

[clever cipher]

Oh it applying to photo bloom makes it stronger

[thorn plover]

its all blooms

[clever cipher]

Well the tooltip is misleading as hell then

[nocturne vortex]

it is, and people are very confused all day

[thorn plover]

yeah it needs reworded

[clever cipher]

So it's just rank 2 that's changed?

Wowhead post is vague aswell

[thorn plover]

rank 3 got nerfed 5 to 3

the wowhead post is confusing too because its comparing to a build that never hit live

[clever cipher]

Yeah ok that makes sense

Wowhead thinks of apex in 4

game thinks of it as 3

[thorn plover]

points 2/3/4 got changed

[versed hemlock]

Is this going to meaningfully impact play in any way or are we just going from a waaaaaaay too big of an overtune to a slightly less big of an overtune?

[thorn plover]

spec will change a bit, but play wont really

[hardy canopy]

the apex change basically makes it inefficient to swap lb right

it's not like you're gonna need cause the splashes are gonna be crazy healing

[thorn plover]

i dont think it really changes that

[clever cipher]

If you're playing apex you're not swapping anyway

[thorn plover]

if youre talking m+

[clever cipher]

Most rdruids are playing with LB on themselves

[hardy canopy]

yeah i'm talking about m+ sorry for the lack of context

[nocturne vortex]

i thought lifebloom on tank if you have a melee heavy group, lifebloom on yourself if you have ranged (m+?

[thorn plover]

it was kinda a given when you talk about swapping lb

[clever cipher]

a lot of them are just swiftmending themselves to extend the LB, what changes now is that you don't want to refresh before pandemic for the pandemic bloom

[nocturne vortex]

what is pandemic

[clever cipher]

lifebloom whoever is taking the most damage

[nocturne vortex]

tank is usually taking the most damage but they can keep themselves up no?

also are we not picking the talent that makes lifebloom count as 3 stacks of mastery?

[thorn plover]

pandemic is the last 30% of the base duration, you can refresh in that window and not lose that time (its added to the time) and it still causes the final bloom

[clever cipher]

If you refresh hots/dots within 30%(someone correct me?) it will final bloom & add that 30% duration to the duration of the hot/dot, if you refresh early you'll lose that bloom

It's usually around 4 seconds for Lifebloom

[thorn plover]

4.5

[clever cipher]

I go with 4 on my weakaura to be safe 😉

[thorn plover]

usually your LB target is full hots already, so the mastery stacks are almost pointless with the way it DR

[main timber]

It isn't a bad talent obviously. Points are just very competitive

[peak marlin]

Hey guys, just wanted to ask your opinions on Trinket usage, luckily got Vaelgor's Final Stare from the Vault last week and I've got it macro'd into Convoke ATM for M+. Thinking about it would it be better to use it as another pseudo-cooldown between things?

[main timber]

Sure, if you remember to use it

[thorn plover]

such an akward cd on that trinket

[peak marlin]

I'm normally quite good at using it, so I might un-macro it from Convoke and use it between them to support healing between them and Tranq

[night sorrel]

Question does the dispel from Imperator on Mythic count as boss debuff?

just trying to figure out how to manage danderframes to ensure I see it

[thorn plover]

yes

[night sorrel]

is there a way to make the dispel from Chimaerus show as well ?

would that also be a " boss debuff "

[thorn plover]

theyre both secret

boss debuff

[night sorrel]

kk

sweet

should start seeing them now and can tell rest of the healers as well - that was a bitch until we figured it out last night

just wanted to make sure for certain

ty

Question @thorn plover when Direct API turned on - I now no longer see like " Innervate " on myself

do u know how to make it so I can see those on myself

[thorn plover]

not sure i have all that stuff turned off

[night sorrel]

rog

[thorn plover]

i show no buffs on my frames

[night sorrel]

yeah its not important

was just nice to know when it was casted on me

[thorn plover]

you can see that in your cdm

[night sorrel]

yeah it shows when I do it under my char where I have it - just was nice to see it on the frame

since im mainly looking there

i have it offset to the right as of now - idk why having it centered under char is just so uncomfortable

[thick summit]

If you spam a swiftmend after a regrowth it auto consumes the sotf with way spell queuing works right? If you were to have no hots on a target and hit regrowth onto that target and spam life bloom with the harmonious blooming talent would it count that regrowth as hitting a target with 3 stacks towards your mastery? Or does it not work that way

[thorn plover]

i think it does work that way

pretty easy to test yourself

just look at your combat log

[thick summit]

Fair point I’ll have to check it out.

[clever cipher]

Private auras will show the debuff on their frame, just not the overlay to show they're dispellable

Northern sky has a private aura on frame option if you're using that

[night sorrel]

ty

[peak charm]

How we feeling about tuning update ?

[thorn plover]

big buff

[rich gale]

Ive got this to work and my old cursor combo works! Hallejuah! Just wondering if there will be any updates to the WA string for this to encompass the changes, maybe add a TOL icon for cooldown and have this work with m33kauras? All good if not, but doesnt hurt to ask. Ty for your time.

[inland turret]

is there a ressource guide out there, with which specs is the best per dungeon?

i figure a lot of top tier is doing KotGrove on Magister's terrace

[thorn plover]

im not the guy to ask, i dont use it, sorry!

[thorn plover]

why would you think that

[inland turret]

im comparing spells cast on warcraftlogs with top 5 droods

and they have grove guardian in their cast

[thorn plover]

there are 2 keeper kills in the top 100 magisters keys

.....

grove guardian isnt a keeper talent

[inland turret]

im guessing its my Details

that doesn'T show grove guardian's healing

[thorn plover]

yeah ignore what details shows

everyone is playing wildstalker in keys

[inland turret]

aww okay i'll get warcraftlogs and analyze from their

there*

i feel like there's something im doing wrong

[thorn plover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/47?boss=12811&class=Druid&spec=Restoration&metric=hps

[inland turret]

but cannot point on what im doin

does the archon app automaticly upload logs ? or its still like the good old days

[versed hemlock]

Is anyone actually cat-weaving in high keys??? The dps seems so low that it seems like a liability for no gain.

[oak garnet]

yes they are

[sly pivot]

any current creators maining rdruid you recommend watching educationally?

[oak garnet]

In really high keys dps are coordinated and everyone focuses down high prio aoe adds fast and is good with cc/kicks so a large % of the dam coming in is single target on your brew. They weave then rg wg sm then rj and back to cat

In pugs it's less organized and you spend more time healing

[rich gale]

Ah thanks! I should have tagged @main timber - thanks for the heads up Purrformance

[main timber]

Hmm let me have a look tomorrow

[rich gale]

Thanks legend! No stress or urgency. Seeing as this m33kauras is working hoping we can get your awesome string going again too.

[gentle nova]

Is the 50% on 6t apex still op

[tough portal]

[pulsar kettle]

do not

stop this

[tough portal]

Make them fix it @main timber

[pulsar kettle]

sunfire still not worth pressing

[tough portal]

Ok I'll keep doing it

[tough portal]

No time man it's a fragile environment

[pulsar kettle]

wait are those boomie convokes

[tough portal]

The 5 Regrowths up + LB for Rampant Growth for double buffing Starfires spell queued bang bang

It falls apart

Very easily

[pulsar kettle]

who are you

where is f2f

[tough portal]

I had to test with the NB RG tech from the chinese logs

@clever cipher thoughts?

[main timber]

I probably can get this fixed

[tough portal]

So the thing is

It needs Rampant still

It's Rampant + Nature's Bounty

Only 5 Regrowths up and NB doesnt trigger 5 stacks for Blooming

Only with LB

[main timber]

Funny bug

[tough portal]

And friggin 70% Starfire cleave

[gentle nova]

How good would be playing 2 apex

2/4

[bright swift]

[main timber]

Sounds awful

3 is not impossible, 2 sounds dreadful

[gentle nova]

With all the other talents tho

[main timber]

Yes but you are taking talents like PhoSy and then halving their Apex value

[tough portal]

Yeah I think with 4th point down at 3 Blooms, Photo is just better, but I don't think any other talent is better than 4th Apex either

[gentle nova]

Where do i get 2 points from

1 tv and 1 apex 4 for ms and phosy

[bright swift]

I'll drop reforest and 1 TV

[gentle nova]

Reforest is op

[bright swift]

Not as OP as apex lol

[gentle nova]

I wanna move

[tough portal]

Tbh at least like 5 of those I meant to heal Convoke but I didnt know how to shift out of boomie manually

I dont have boomie form bound

[ebon gulch]

how much nerf was this apex nerf

10%?

[bright swift]

It's a buff to live

[tough portal]

It's closer to a 10% buff

[bright swift]

A very significant one

[tough portal]

Depending on content type

[ebon gulch]

wut

[tough portal]

Dont draw conclusions from incomplete sets of changes

From one PTR build to the next

And think you're reading full changes from Live patch to PTR patch

It's a nerf from last week's PTR, the initial changes were a gigantic buff, now it's less gigantic

[ebon gulch]

is this a nerf

[pulsar kettle]

[bright swift]

Are you reading what we are saying

[clever cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

I just want some DPS man

[tough portal]

Me too

[bright swift]

I don't

[tough portal]

[rugged grail]

It baffles me that people don't know what their apex currently does

[tough portal]

I had to do 5 keys tonight for vault I just needed to feel something in this last one

[slow pasture]

Talentless build

[bright swift]

My vault will have Alleria neck

What about you

[tough portal]

I dont think I'll get that

Playing too much pokemon man

[nocturne vortex]

pokopia? bc same

[tough portal]

Pokemon champions

[nocturne vortex]

oh I heard champions was ass

[tough portal]

I did buy that tonight to, will prob get started on it sometime this week

[nocturne vortex]

pokopia is great its very much a cozy game though

but the lore is suprisingly dark and good

[tough portal]

Yeah I understand

The most glowing review I have of it

Is the most depressively self inflicted misery guy in #pvp channel

ENJOYS it (never before seen)

[nocturne vortex]

LOL

Pokopia is getting amazing reviews

it's one of my bed time games to calm down with

Im a huge nintendo fan i love my switch I grew up on that shit

Rumor is ocarina of time is getting remade on the switch 2 and I hope its true

[livid hearth]

Is it ok if i save the dawncrests to the next reset?

The weekly cap doesnt stop me from saving tons of crests right? It only stops how much i can earn right?

[nocturne vortex]

the cap is how much you can earn in one week

the cap will raise tomorrow so you'll be able to earn more. yes you can save them

[tough portal]

Yeah it's no problem

[slender gust]

For the people playing Convoke build in raid. Are there any other notable talent swaps? Apex or no?

[nocturne vortex]

I personally play tree of life and apex, but every convoke user I see has been playing without apex

Im pretty sure our apex talents will be mandatory soon though as soon as the new changes come out

everytime lifebloom blooms it's going to heal the entire raid from what i understand

[tough portal]

Not only 4/4 apex

But probably photosynthesis in raid too

[plain steeple]

Can someone please make me popcorn? I‘m just reading through the wowhead commends for our apex change.

[tough portal]

Very likely

[nocturne vortex]

can you link it kaelon

[plain steeple]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-class-tuning-for-druids-and-warriors-in-patch-12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-381217#comments

Wowhead comment section at its best

[slender gust]

I assume you just drop the 1 point in Thriving veg for it?

[plain steeple]

6 targets, not the entire raid.

[slender gust]

Would that naybe even be good to run now?

[nocturne vortex]

Last I saw it said healing reduced beyond 6 targets, did they change it?

[plain steeple]

The difference between apex and no apex wasn’t large prio to 12.0.5.
After the patch, going with apex will be the better spec.

And photo is providing as many blooms as the 4/4 apex talent.

Can’t go without it. Photo is one of the strongest talents in the bottom section now.

[bright swift]

Resto Druid still gona play apex-less in raids , what a shame , the previous version in PTR was way better one. This version will further buff M+ healing to feel more bursty due to the increased % , but in raids where other healers top the raid way faster than you , those heals just gona overheal and push us as i mentioned already to stay apex-less...resto druid devs are the worst thing that happened to resto druid in ages...and it was so beautiful class...

[nocturne vortex]

i dont pvp anymore but there's an honor talent that adds lifebloom to all wild growth targets. that's gonna be insane with apex lol

[tough portal]

Yeah they've tweaked it like 4 times this week in PTR

[plain steeple]

The previous version was 100k hps on apex. Maybe 80k net hps bonus.

[nocturne vortex]

6 will still be insanely good in m+

[plain steeple]

I loved this comment

[bright swift]

Not a single person in the wowhead comments saying it's a buff

[nocturne vortex]

It IS a buff though isnt it? lol

[tough portal]

It is but only in BGs cuz you need to hit 6 targets with WG for it to proc
And we are total piss in BGs cuz go oom in 2 mins, unfort, Early Spring does make us insane teamfight healers tho

[urban kestrel]

the comments are just people asking for buffs that some of are already in the .5 patch

that people just forgot about cause they're not in this build

[nocturne vortex]

yeah i took a break from pvp this season . ill come back when there's a good pvp reward but i do NOT miss the ooming

[urban kestrel]

pvp is just world of monkcraft rn tbh

[nocturne vortex]

you know what honor talent should be in pve though?

[tough portal]

Yes pretty big one.
2x 30% vs 6x ~25-35% (50% of Blooms, varies depending on Photo or not)

[nocturne vortex]

imagine this in mythic +

[tough portal]

You lose some of that in the talent swap but it's a big buff to it in raid

[urban kestrel]

imagine that crap in raids tbh... that thing is broken

[tough portal]

Tbh no I think the spec is great without turning into mistweaver

If people want to play forest guardian they can level a monk

[pulsar kettle]

youd need to nerf the spec by 10% to make this talent exist

[nocturne vortex]

I personally dont like cat weaving but I know some people do

[pulsar kettle]

it needs to be deleted in pvp and replaced with overgrowth

[nocturne vortex]

I miss overgrowth in pvp

[hardy canopy]

there's so much yapping about the rework that they might just rework it again to something that really is a nerf on these next 2 weeks 💀

[nocturne vortex]

i miss when overgrowth actually applied regrowth's DIRECT heal AND wild growth to all allies.

it was a true emergency heal

[urban kestrel]

devs love tuning around m+, we will be nerfed in raid and M+ because we're fotm until mw is meta in all content

[small dew]

Im not a fan

[hardy canopy]

it's the other way around

[tough portal]

Yeah I'm not saying that cuz I dislike the damage. I play the spec to do damage. I think deriving healing from damage detracts from it and makes the spec less enjoyable + it's design space already explored by 3 other healers.

[urban kestrel]

mw isnt fotm in M+ yet

[hardy canopy]

raid comes first as priority for tuning i mean

[tough portal]

I want to catweave a lot AND for it to be separate from healing, a reward for healing well, not part of healing loop

[urban kestrel]

DYRBI?

[nocturne vortex]

I understand but it seems they want wildstalker to be the "cat weaving" spec.

[tough portal]

You realize we're getting a massive buff yeah? Next week.

[nocturne vortex]

but i do enjoy that you dont have to cat weave to heal

[urban kestrel]

honestly starfire goes hard this season

just catweave if theres a big mob to st down or on bosses

[nocturne vortex]

i LOVE starfire when I play balance in open world content while questing. I do chosen of elune

[tough portal]

Yeah I think we're great as we are in terms of design

[nocturne vortex]

do you guys quest in feral/balance or do resto like crazy ppl

[bright swift]

Balance

[hardy canopy]

bear ofc

[urban kestrel]

balance or bear, having no damage outside of a 40k starsurge every 6s is painful

[nocturne vortex]

balance pulls the whole zone,t hen starfall and convoke go brr

[urban kestrel]

I wish convoke felt better rn, I miss mfo boomy opener already

closest I've gotten to a chill dps spec where I do 50% of my damage in a 30s window then do mechanics or sit in bear form since shadowlands

[tough portal]

Show dps

[nocturne vortex]

I remember when convoke was so broken in shadowlands season 1 that anyone could get to 2k just buy pressing it in an arena

[urban kestrel]

like 30k overall, I'm not really even playing into it, I've been doing like 16s with guildies and that was as like keeper which is def way less viable in high keys

[livid hearth]

Newly dinged 90 this week and doing research.

Reading Larias sheet he says only do 1 tier 11 delve for quest.

Do people not do weekly 4 t11 delves for hero/myth crests?

[merry oriole]

I think resto druids have high total healing output but low healing spikes. very good at filling gaps during other healers’ cooldown periods, but that’s clearly not needed in the H raid.

[livid hearth]

I was planning on doing 4 t11 delve every week for it.

[merry oriole]

The new changes still increase the total healing output but reduce the peak healing, making situations like having three players targeted simultaneously in M+ Dungeons even more dangerous.

[hardy canopy]

you do only 1 for the cracked keystone unique quest

[urban kestrel]

no reason to when a +10 takes 12 minutes

[hardy canopy]

you get crests from keys

[bright swift]

You got baited by a wowhead copy pasta

[tough portal]

You need to progress the delver's journey to unlock Myth crests at end of T11, which made it not relevant for Larias guide
And yeah delve for 5 crests vs what you get in M+ is just not worth much, but ofc you can do it if you arent getting groups or just wanna chill in delves for a bit.

[livid hearth]

Im not sure im strong enough for +10s. Atwhatm+ lvl should i ignore 11 delves thenm?

[urban kestrel]

if you get the invite you're strong enough (idk everyone was doing them at 240-250 week 1, but you wont get invited at that ilvl now)

[nocturne vortex]

REMINDER FOR TOMORROW: Make sure to open your Great vault in the horde only section of Silvermoon, the blood elves hid all the good shit there

[urban kestrel]

where is this?

[livid hearth]

Im around 220-230 ilvl newly dinged

[tough portal]

I like just doing the delves when I'm chilling with something to watch or a podcast to listen to, I knock out the 4 bountiful delves after weekly reset just chilling

[urban kestrel]

pog

[nocturne vortex]

Right nex to the Horde inn

[livid hearth]

I see, will continue do that then. I like delves too

How much hero and myth crests do m+ lvls give each run?

[tough portal]

Oh shit ty for tech

[bright swift]

Good shout

[nocturne vortex]

Horde silvermoon actually has a lot of convenient stuff. It has all of the proffesion tables, an inn, an auction house right next to the bank, a catalyst, and every profession table has a mailbox near by

[tough portal]

I will open myth NPX ring I believe

[urban kestrel]

I will open avoidance haste chest

[bright swift]

I will get Alleria neck or trinket

[hardy canopy]

i'm getting mythic gays

[bright swift]

Or that yes

[nocturne vortex]

FYI Im a filthy liar I am not zuljin anymore im wyrmrest accord

[proven phoenix]

nice man we are just lying now

[royal wedge]

Hi - why is this guy pumping so hard with wildstalker in raid? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/plubplubtwo

[proven phoenix]

this is probably why

his holy priests 2nd most used ability is smite

[zealous scarab]

Behind Senn

[robust badge]

Thank you phasedruid

Also

[proven phoenix]

lowkey paladin isnt that bad

I legit think that spec is fine (worse than disc and mw)

[bright swift]

Shut up man

Paladin is horrible

[proven phoenix]

poptart paladin does infinite healing and only gets 2 innervates?

explain that

[tough portal]

Hahahaha

[nocturne vortex]

random question

did they nerf traps for prey nightmare

[tough portal]

Yes

Altho I feel like it's gotta be role based or something

Or 2ndary stats affect it idk

On my bear it still does close to 50%

On my alt it doesnt

[bright swift]

Who the fuck is still doing preys

[nocturne vortex]

people who care about collecting

[proven phoenix]

I have to level my prey journey for mounts

[nocturne vortex]

achievs etc

[bright swift]

Are the prey mounts seasonal

[proven phoenix]

wait fuck I forgot to do stormarion and abundance this week

im getting out of bed

[nocturne vortex]

probably

[bright swift]

Fuck ...

[nocturne vortex]

it says season 1 so im assuming yes

[proven phoenix]

the prey shit is really easy to cap

[nocturne vortex]

especially for druids

we can use flight form and just fly aorund collecting traps.

[robust badge]

I still don’t have them unlocked and my delves are only level 3

[proven phoenix]

4 nightmare preys are a full journey level right

[bright swift]

Based

[proven phoenix]

and theres only 10 levels

[tough portal]

Log in I'm in a raid for storm

[pulsar kettle]

4 of any prey level

[tough portal]

Oh but the weekly

[pulsar kettle]

its 1k rep per prey

[proven phoenix]

fuck man do I really have to log in

[tough portal]

Is participating in 3 waves

[proven phoenix]

ya

[pulsar kettle]

theres catchup for prey

[tough portal]

You'll need to wait for next one

[bright swift]

You should do a LV 11 though

[proven phoenix]

I'll do it in a bit....

[tough portal]

[pulsar kettle]

no issue if you miss a week

[robust badge]

https://x.com/LiNkzrOW/status/2038405848133701653

LiNkzr (@LiNkzrOW)

i do not do 'delves', i do not 'hunt' preys, I do not 'farm' rep, i do m+ and raids and if i dont get my loot i WILL get mad

X · Mar 30, 2026, 12:00 AM

[nocturne vortex]

also they drop lots of furniture if you care about housing

the furniture rewards are VERY meh but it gives decent housing exp if you get them all

[tough portal]

I'm doing it cuz it exists

[hearty cargo]

Yo guys a question about the 12.0.5 lifebloom changes are they buffs or just so everbloom has any value in raid ?

[rustic copper]

Average good log

[nocturne vortex]

im a colletor what can i say

[tough portal]

If the content exists I do the content

[rustic copper]

[tough portal]

You are concerning

[rustic copper]

Training for next season though

[nocturne vortex]

i like toys

[tough portal]

Both, they are

[hearty cargo]

I see just wondered why they buff us while already being strong but on the otherhand mw doesnt get any nerfs to dmg or their output guess there arent really any balance changes coming this season

[bright swift]

Why does mw need a nerf lol

[proven phoenix]

is .5 this coming reset or the next

[nocturne vortex]

i think they were talking about PVP, because MW's are broken in pvp

[tough portal]

I think they're talking about M+ damage

[tough portal]

MW is on the rise too

In M+

[robust badge]

It’s my favourite tweet of the tier

[bright swift]

Next week

[nocturne vortex]

lool

[proven phoenix]

hmm I see

[nocturne vortex]

i actually read the quests too

call me crazy

[tough portal]

No that's @wary belfry

[hearty cargo]

Highest heal output in raid m+ and pvp also dealing most dmg of all healer specs dont think its balanced when mw does 70k dps over a key while druid or shaman does 20k (40k with raidbuffs)

[proven phoenix]

nerf mw damage idc

[bright swift]

I refuse to believe mw has more healing than druid in keys

There's no way

[proven phoenix]

I mean nerf them in healing as well tbh it would be funny I fucking hate mw players

but yeah

I dont think their healing is insane in m+

[tough portal]

I hope MWs get a season of being meta man

[nocturne vortex]

as long as brewmasters are the best tanks idc

theyre my fav tank to heal as an r druid

[tough portal]

Let them have some time under the sun yeah?

[bright swift]

They have time under the sun in raid

[tough portal]

Done be shellfish

[bright swift]

Fuck m

[nocturne vortex]

have any of you seen a single rogue all season

[tough portal]

I did 5 keys iwth one tonight

[hardy canopy]

mw does infinite healing if they have multiple targets to spin

so just pull trash into boss

[tough portal]

Also they're everywhere in pvp

[nocturne vortex]

well yeah but i feel like rogues are non existant in pve

[tough portal]

It's fine

Historical debt

[bright swift]

Haven't entered a single arena or BG vs players this expansion

[hearty cargo]

They actually do if they can spin while doing insane dmg

[hardy canopy]

mw has better atonement than disc...

[bright swift]

I really don't care either

[tough portal]

Atonement starts with AT

Ancient Teachings

It's true

[bright swift]

M+ meta does not matter to me

[hardy canopy]

true

[tough portal]

Look it up

[bright swift]

I will play rdruid

[hearty cargo]

I mean priest in general is in the worst state its ever been in m+ no ?

[bright swift]

Disc is fine

Just can't keep up on healing

Does crazy damage though

[hardy canopy]

it is dogshit in keys ye

doesn't matter if you're not pushing tho

[tough portal]

They also have damage pvp talents so in arena they can just outright top damage meter

Funny spec

But yeah same deal there, not great at healing

[unborn frost]

yo can someone help me with this log, we are struggling healing absorbs at vanguard myth, can i do something else to help with it or get some help in my gameplay? runing apex etc https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vc2nGbXpBqfr9hzY?fight=23&type=deaths

[mystic robin]

How are upcoming changes to Everbloom a buff? I don't get it?

[nocturne vortex]

it says final bloom but its all blooms

[bright swift]

Compare it to live

The ptr notes compare it to a previous version of ptr

Live -> PTR (massive buff) -> PTR nerf

[thorn whale]

Wtf

[proven phoenix]

im sorry man collateral damage

[thorn whale]

Actually my Druid has 3 raid slots and monk has 1 this week, so i guess I’m not a monk player until reset

Carry on

[gentle nova]

Im axtually ready for the bird to die

Dogass fight

[sleek spire]

How much of a buff are we talking about? It seems big by reading it, but has anyone crunched the numbers yet?

[bright swift]

It's hard to gauge since you have to drop a bunch of strong talents to get it

[sleek spire]

I had in mind M+, where you don't have to drop talents

[bright swift]

Then it's a very significant buff

I can do the math on it later again

I'll do it right now actually

[sleek spire]

Nice thanks

[urban bone]

He’s crunching, he’s crunching!

[distant birch]

kinda agreed

lura is really fun so far tho at least

imo

I just hope they wont be nerfing it more any time soon

[raven wind]

Hey Boys New nerf for resto is Relevant?

[balmy spire]

Jesus

its not a nerf...

must be hard to join disc, maybe read some messages from last 15h

[ocean moon]

How would you call a change that results to lower throughput then

[clear oracle]

Does anybody else run into the problem in higher keys 16s/17s that they have to start spamming regrows a lot more? Especially in seat and MT I have like 18% of my healing from regrowth and I have to drink a few times because of it. Is that just how it is or am I doing something wrong

[balmy spire]

You wont have lower throughput...

[ocean moon]

Wdym

[clear oracle]

It is a nerf from Ptr to ptr but it was buffed from live before

[ocean moon]

Lower numbers wont lead to lower oevrall ?

Aight ok

[balmy spire]

you compare ptr to ptr

or live to ptr ?!

[urban bone]

It’s like no one actually knows what the apex does rn

Watching this disc lol

[clear oracle]

Can somebody make a sticky?

[urban bone]

I think they are waiting till it’s locked in to sticky

[plain steeple]

No I wanna flame people.

[urban bone]

Till it’s live

[plain steeple]

If you make a sticky, tell me if WS is worth it in raid now or if I gonna stack with kotg.

Also prosperity vs VI

Idk what to play

[balmy spire]

[distant birch]

prosperity only worth if crazy in the brains

[balmy spire]

prosp will be worth for sure with changes

[ocean moon]

I mean the bursting frenzy from 5 to 3 is a nerf, but tbh i dunno what the rank 2 3 translate to

[plain steeple]

No that’s not for sure.

The bloom by SM is not that big.

It’s half the value

Of Everbloom.

[sinful zephyr]

Guys what is the best way to play around Lifebloom in m+ to take advantage of talents? Should you keep refreshing it in last 3secs of its duration? (ofc when you dont have to switch its target because of dmg)

[balmy spire]

and double that

[ocean moon]

Yeah pretty much. Keep high Reju count and spam Regrowth on tight situations

[plain steeple]

What do you double?
You shift the timing and have 6 instead of 5 cpm.

But lose Regrowth cpm

[balmy spire]

Why would you loose rg cpm? cause of 1 gcd ?

[plain steeple]

Which one gcd?
Because you lose the extensions of 3 of your hots

[balmy spire]

thats another point

[urban bone]

I just can’t stand hearing the robot voice say “life bloom” so often when I can’t extend it

[balmy spire]

but with current apex changes its fine to let lb go into pandemic window

[plain steeple]

You’re right, I never considered pandemic blooms to the calculation.
That’s actually giving around 10% more overall blooms if played properly.

[bright swift]

Ok

results

I looked at m+ first

This log has 1.91M (7.5%) everbloom healing now.
With the new apex it would have 4.2M everbloom healing instead (no overhealing).
With 30% overhealing, same as efflo, it would be 2.8M

[stiff rose]

so many regeneration ^^

I was told that in MM+, you have to use more regrowth than rejuvenation

[plain steeple]

Keep in mind your Everbloom also has overheal in that log.

[bright swift]

it does

[stiff rose]

that trying to keep a high account of reju will deplete your mana more

[bright swift]

i know

[stiff rose]

was it true ?

[bright swift]

But you can't have the same overhealing

cuz it does way more healing

[plain steeple]

The overheal might occur at the same time - so maybe similar percentage overall.

[gentle nova]

So how much of a buff it is

[bright swift]

if 10 healing overheals for 10%

then 15 healing overheals for more

you can't have the same amount of overhealing for more healing

[gentle nova]

The numbers mason what do they mean

So it will do15% instead of 7.5?

[bright swift]

Yeah it's hard to gauge how much overhealing it will do

[gentle nova]

Meh i wanted to be op

Seems dogshit

[short arrow]

Is overhealing bad?

[bright swift]

No

[stiff rose]

As long that you don't oom ourself because of it ? ^^

[plain steeple]

Did you just compare raw healing previous to overhealing value after patch?

[bright swift]

Let me get the famous Farty log again

[bright swift]

That's that comparison yes

[bright swift]

oh

no no

it's both raw

wait no

ok i'm stupid

You're right

Deleted it

---

here it is again

In this Seat last boss log:
Current everbloom raw healing: 2.34M total healing
PTR everbloom healing: 4.2M total healing

@gentle nova

[gentle nova]

So 7.5% buff in that log

Or so

[bright swift]

idk how to calculate that with overhealing in mind

[gentle nova]

Sounds like we will still play embrace

[bright swift]

what why

[gentle nova]

That log would be what, 15% everbloom up from 7.5, doesnt no apex talents all add up to 15+ anyway

[bright swift]

raid now. This log has very close to the new build we will run

new everbloom on that log would have done 11.7M raw healing on that log

old everbloom only 5.63M

[gentle nova]

But he gave up 3 big talents to buff everbloom

[bright swift]

yeah

let's assume 20% overhealing, it would do 9.3M

So around 16% of the total healing

compared to 8.8% now

and that's not even including bonus lifebloom healing + bonus blooms on your lifebloom target

• verdancy

so new apex easily goes above 20% of your total healing

[gentle nova]

Put it on wowanalyzer

[bright swift]

I'm sure Squid will

[gentle nova]

No i mean that log

[bright swift]

I did already

[gentle nova]

To see total everbloom

[gentle nova]

So how much wiuld it be with new apex

[bright swift]

Verdancy goes down a little bit

less blooms from apex 4

[gentle nova]

But you lose embrace, 1 tv and refo

Thats 15% lmao

[bright swift]

Embrace is like 5%

[plain steeple]

Why only twice the value?

[bright swift]

wdym

[plain steeple]

Did you include photo to the amount of blooms?

[bright swift]

yes

[torpid kraken]

ong why do the top druids go cat weave talents but still talent into moonkin form and sunfire?

[gentle nova]

Cuz catweave is more st

[bright swift]

Embrace, 1 TV and refo isn't beating 20% apex

[torpid kraken]

so is the moonkin form just for the aoe packs?

[gentle nova]

Embrace tv and refo are already 15%

And then you pick whatever next talent (phosy) for another 4-5 including verd

[bright swift]

Photo isn't 4-5%

it's usually 2-3%

[gentle nova]

• verd

[bright swift]

yes

that's included

[gentle nova]

Ok so the apex change is pretty whatever

Good one blizz

[bright swift]

my Alleria

it's not that crazy

[hardy canopy]

DoC with call does a shitton of healing in keys, just memeing but actually surprised

[proven phoenix]

why are u guys expecting the apex to get buffed

it being buffed is clearly not their intention

they just designed themselves into a corner

[bright swift]

why wouldn't they buff it for raid

not taking it shouldn't be a good thing

[slender gust]

What was your overall DPS at the end of the key to get that much healing from it?

[hardy canopy]

30k cus i had to heal and i only spammed starfire with call

still less effort than catweaving

[slender gust]

So owl dam is actually not trash now?

[bright swift]

1 thing we didn't include @gentle nova

is wildstalker

it should buff apex by quite a bit

[slender gust]

So Apex change = WS raid is back?

[hardy canopy]

starfire is good but it's just a meme cus you wouldn't spec DoC in real keys

[balmy spire]

i just hope it goes live like current ptr state 😄

[bright swift]

who knows

my problem is if ToL is playable without reforestation

that sounds extremely grief

[narrow monolith]

That is gross

[bright swift]

in that log it was

103 blooms from photo
87 blooms from apex 4

I also put Everbloom to 20% overhealing but it's actually very smart

[urban bone]

I’m going balance

[marsh prism]

pokopia main

what's the secret to alleria btw @bright swift did you have fun I am not

[bright swift]

I had fun yes

Are you TOl

[thin blaze]

does elvui not let you track hots?

like just on unitframes

[urban bone]

Elvui has been replaced by a random lua error generator

[thin blaze]

mine works fine but i just switched to my healer and the unitframes arent showing hots

so trying to figure it out

meh guess ill look into it tomorrow

[west topaz]

it's better if you delete elvUI and start anew

because that shit was supposed to die then is a zombie version of its former self rn

it's fucking up people's perf

like I get we all miss good raidframes like Cell but that dude ain't done either so everyone's moved back to grid2 or danders

at least they work

[thin blaze]

it was working fine for me on my dps and tank setups

[bright swift]

Ok ignore me then whatever

[thin blaze]

but if theres a decent profile for those other two addons that i can copy id be down lol

i hate setting that shit up myself

[marsh prism]

sorry I was getting home and sorting dishes I'm about to sit down at my computer in a sec

I wasn't tol but my mw wasn't running the right build and I felt a little misguided so I'm actually not even sure how to approach tonight

but I was having NO fun in p1

[thorn whale]

I felt like optimizing movement was fun

P1 just isn't fun

Nothing u can do haha

[marsh prism]

I don't like that the absorb is dispellable

[bright swift]

I liked p1

[marsh prism]

I wish it was either a dispel or an absorb without a dispel

[bright swift]

You don't really dispell in p1

[thorn whale]

i love putting tripple hots on the absorb for a warlock to randomly decide to dispell themselves

[marsh prism]

ok maybe this was not helping

so I'll see

[vestal heath]

what we thinking about the apex talent changes in 12.0.5?

[marsh prism]

because it felt like I couldn't do shit

[thorn whale]

In what way

[marsh prism]

maybe people were also eating shit too much idk I felt like people were alive and then dead .5 GCD later

and I got yelled at

[thorn whale]

Check if they get the obelisk + have healing absorb

[marsh prism]

the overlaps are like

impossible to see without a weakaura

it's absurd

[thorn whale]

there's only 2 really no?

[marsh prism]

I mean I can't make it glow or super big

if I had qsakauras I'd make a condition for if both then glow

hold on

[bright swift]

What overlaps

[marsh prism]

lemme get to my computer

[thorn whale]

There is arrow + big boom

[marsh prism]

absorb and obelisk

[thorn whale]

but I think nance meant absorb + obelisk

[bright swift]

Yeah dispell that

[thorn whale]

ye

[bright swift]

External obelisks

[thorn whale]

But I think that is dps job to say "dispell me"

With how these fucking frames look

[bright swift]

What

[thorn whale]

tbf if someone is assigned majorily for absorbs

they should see it

so nvm me

did you upload alleria kill?

[marsh prism]

thats mw right

[thorn whale]

or hpal if u have one of those

[marsh prism]

question not statement

nah, mw

our hpal is the mw

[thorn whale]

yeah then mw is good for it

[marsh prism]

ok

ill stress a bit less then

[thorn whale]

i started stressing less about the absorbs

and it felt better

[marsh prism]

i literally dont fucking get it though like the normal puddle debuff looks practically the same as the obelisk one at that scale

AAAA

[storm kettle]

We had an issue of adds going straight to healers from heal aggro

[marsh prism]

echo of nelth flashbacks

[thorn whale]

P3 is mega fun tho Nance

So look forward to that

[marsh prism]

i wonder how far we'll get tonight

[gentle nova]

But bird is not 😹

[thorn whale]

I'm benched on bird

[gentle nova]

Not good enough gg

[thorn whale]

gg

Everyone needs playtime vibes

We also haven't killed her yet

so that will have to be wednesday

[eternal forge]

new nerf?

Everbloom (Rank 2) now heals for 25%/50% of Lifebloom’s final bloom on 6 allies (was heals all allies for 30%/60%, reduced beyond 5).
Everbloom (Rank 3) Blooming Frenzy now triggers 3 times (was 5).

[thorn whale]

Still a buff from live

[eternal forge]

where is buff'

?

[storm kettle]

The splash healing of the live version is spread to 2 players and comes from LB ticks, the new version comes from the blooms and spreads to more targets

[bright swift]

Where is buff?

[urban bone]

In heart

[spark river]

watched torty on bird last night, really didnt seem nice for a resto druid from a viewer pov

[bright swift]

It's definitely not a good druid fight

[gentle nova]

Its decent

[bright swift]

Intermission is very good for us but outside of that

[gentle nova]

P2 is better for druid

[bright swift]

P2 isn't the hard part

And we don't have a good external for the dives

[gentle nova]

Wdym p2 isnt the hard part

Irs the hardest lol

If we get to 2nd egg with everyone alive we just kill

which will be tomorrow tbh

[marsh prism]

pokopia time...

[gentle nova]

Or would

They want ro reclear

[bright swift]

Ok what do you mean with P2 then

[gentle nova]

P1 part 2 whatever

[bright swift]

Second P1 is the hardest

Yes

[gentle nova]

Ok man its just p2

[bright swift]

Whatever

Why is that good for rdruid

[gentle nova]

Idk why people call it p1 its completely diff than p1 1

Oh didnt say it was good, just better than p1

Theres more healing to be done

That is not just gonna be completely soaked by a disc

[bright swift]

Yeah the heal absorbs are rough

[gentle nova]

Yes i convoke both of them

[bright swift]

I would probably play convoke if we had a mw

But I carry intermission

[gentle nova]

I do 350k hps in egg

How much does treedo

[bright swift]

Something like that yeah

Bit more

[gentle nova]

Not much diff then

[bright swift]

Much easier I assume

[gentle nova]

It doesnt get hard until the end anyway and you proc a tree there

[bright swift]

I should rejuv a bit more

So I have some abundance left for the end

[gentle nova]

My tranq is like halfway so it lasts to the whole color swap

[bright swift]

Oh you tranq first intermission?

[gentle nova]

Idk if thats gonna grief
My 2nd egg

Yeah

[bright swift]

2nd egg has no lust

I have tranq there

Saving pot for that too

[gentle nova]

I thought u could tranq both eggs

[bright swift]

For sure not

[gentle nova]

Like 2nd egg was gonna be a halfway

[bright swift]

I'm not home to check the timeline but isn't it like 2:30 between eggs

[gentle nova]

Im watching viserios and first egg is at 2

Then after 2nd egg the color swap is at 5:28

So you can early tranq and then late tranq

Unless the egg doesnt last enough

[bright swift]

I think late tranq is useless

Most of the value of tranq is flourish

[gentle nova]

Late tranq is op for first egg

[bright swift]

Yeah sure but why would you do that

Then you don't get a second one for sure

[gentle nova]

Yeah i was afraid i wasnt gonna get a 2nd one

[bright swift]

I tranq 2nd swap in p1

[gentle nova]

I can move the first one for the third color swap in p1 i guess

That swap has like 3 cds

😹

[bright swift]

Just a rewind for us

[gentle nova]

Has conduit and evang

[bright swift]

Evang??

[gentle nova]

Yup we evang end of egg

Egg does nothing

[bright swift]

We uppies end of egg

[gentle nova]

I could say you could solo heal egg

[bright swift]

And then he has evang back for 2nd swap in p2

[gentle nova]

When im healing the egg i feel like i could just not heal at all and we would still be fine with just yulon

Then egg ends and thats the scary part

[bright swift]

We have amz+dark for swap after egg

[gentle nova]

Same and its still scary

[bright swift]

And uppies

[gentle nova]

We moved evang there

We dont need another cd for egg

[bright swift]

Only CDs for egg for us

Is my tree and dream flight

[gentle nova]

What does he evang then

[bright swift]

3rd swap p1

2nd swap p2

[gentle nova]

That doesnt do anything

[bright swift]

Not much no

[gentle nova]

We dont cd 3rd swap

And have never died

[bright swift]

But he needs it back

For 2nd swap

[gentle nova]

For 2nd swap i have voke and conduit

[bright swift]

If he uses any later it's not back

[gentle nova]

We chill

[bright swift]

We have literally nothing else so

[gentle nova]

I voke the absorbs before swap

Literally pop them all

[bright swift]

And then for 3rd swap we have rewind again

[gentle nova]

Pretty op

[bright swift]

And then disc has evang halfway through 2nd egg

[gentle nova]

For 2nd absorbs p2 i have voke back and then we have evang for 3rd swap

And then for egg its me and monk again

Think we chilling

[bright swift]

Yeah both work I think

We just healthpot both heal absorbs lol

[gentle nova]

I dont like convoking the swap

I prefer to be already spamming rgs when its happening instead of channeling

So i just do it earlier

Bad rng can kill someone

[bright swift]

Convoke is not bursty enough yeah

[empty mountain]

Anyone testet Changed apex Talent ? Is it now worth to Skill ?

[robust crest]

it's not even live so not really
they change this shit every day ^^

we will see where we end

[sonic mason]

Question : Don't you think that the current gameplay of the Restoration Druid doesn't give more importance to mastery for healing in raids, despite the SIMs on QE Live pushing for more haste?

[bright swift]

Haste and mastery have a really nice synergy

[rustic coyote]

I have an UI related question: which easy to set addons (grid, dander, etc.. ) do you suggest to easily keep track hots and stuffs? I am using blizzy one, but on some fights there is just too much on a frame and not properly ordered that I struggle to keep track of all the rejus and I end up refreshing non pandemic ones. I am trying to build a more grid clean one, but it is not super user friendly

Plus I would like to see actual HP plus shield absorb, which I cannot see through blizzy one

[simple rivet]

I like danders

All u wanted can u set , like flashing unit window by pandemic

[rustic coyote]

User friendly or need to work on it over a weekend on a separate profile until it is finished?

[spark river]

Danders is more user friendly

Doesnt take long to setup

[broken socket]

how can you do that for LB?

[marsh prism]

with lifebloomalert or m33kauras

[broken socket]

oh ok, I thought you could do that with Danders. Will cheeck m33kauras, ty