balance

[ruby badger]

I think she doesn't understand well enough what to do with 0 mechanics yet to fix this but when she gets her rotation perfect
You can choose when the downtime is of no eclipse, no spending etc...
And then use your time spending AP while handling mechanics

[pallid bay]

she should be aware of how much AP she has so that she presses the right button

[lucid olive]

F6 is criminal Starfall bind or

hope thats a mouse bind

[unreal stratus]

Mouse bind ^^

[craggy sonnet]

surely mmo mouse

[pallid bay]

she dosnt have enough AP yet keeps pressing starfall, losing out on 1-2 seconds of casts

[craggy sonnet]

ye that does happen a lot

[unreal stratus]

panic mod + stress 😄

[lucid olive]

circle from the bird doesn't do damage so no need to step out of it

[ruby badger]

W lore

[pallid bay]

right, she should work on it - if the fight is 40 seconds long, thats 5% of the fight not pressing a button

[royal zenith]

Oi do you play with an mmo mouse

[pallid bay]

never

[unreal stratus]

thats why she perform way better in key where she feel "safe"

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

She could download twintops and it show the threshold lines for starfall

[pallid bay]

well the worst thing that can happen is that you learn something for the next time

[livid jay]

get a ap-bar like twintops that displays vertical lines for starfall and starsurge so she can always see at a glance if she has one ready and doesnt have to use brainpower or looking at spell icon for it

also has ap prediction so u see "will this starfire cast allow me to press starfall after"

[craggy sonnet]

btw .. not gonna be super impactful to "fix" dps but you usually dont play orbit breaker with rattle i think

[lofty depot]

That's what I do, it even changes for talents that lower the cost

Make brain go brr

[royal zenith]

to be fair

if the routes for the dungeons are the same every time

[pallid bay]

she should perhaps try CDM out

[royal zenith]

all of this is pretty easy to predict/learn and do right

[pallid bay]

cause i imagine she's either looking at her bars now

[royal zenith]

just gotta get reps in

[pallid bay]

or not looking at all

[unreal stratus]

yeah route are kind of the same as I'm the tank but in some pulls she was below me at dmg and we couldn't tell what was wrong (good starfall stacks, incarn, etc)

[livid jay]

tanks needs nerfs thats whats wrong

[ruby badger]

Some packs you might get beat by the tank honestly

[royal zenith]

bm and bear do a fuckton of dam

[lucid olive]

really

[ruby badger]

If it's a tank popping everything and you're just in eclipse and it doesn't live long

[pallid bay]

oh she has cdm for some stuff

[livid jay]

my tank makes me die cause hes puzzleboxing while im already moonfiring stuff

[pallid bay]

[royal zenith]

vortex or

[ruby badger]

I mean in higher keys nah cause nothing dies quick enough for that to happen, but if it's just like 15 secs of you dotting then eclipsing vs a tank unloading the clip, it's pretty plausible

[royal zenith]

you don't need to prove that, you're right

these peeps never play m+...

[livid jay]

i do

when im forced

[royal zenith]

they even die during dotting

imagine

[livid jay]

thats me

[lofty depot]

That's what meld is for

[unreal stratus]

So in general :
=> Pull AP before Incarn
=> Eclipse more to avoid stacking at 2
=> Learn the route more to Incarn on big pulls

Still don't get when to starfall properly

[lucid olive]

I don't do higher keys

[lofty depot]

When to, on 2t

[worthy nimbus]

quick gearing question, only decent thing i get in vault is hast mastery mythic track staff. Currently sims are showing me -250 dps loss by taking max level staff over crafted one, i guess that is because i lose my embelishment. Now i notice min/maxers are saying take the staff because of ilvl boost, but is there a way to compensate for losing your embelisment?

[lucid olive]

but I turboblast 10s

beat tanks every pack

[ruby badger]

The issue was she didn't realise she had no AP for starfall, but she kept mashing it, when she could be starfiring

[livid jay]

you craft another off-piece with an embellishment

you can also sim that in topgear

[craggy sonnet]

you pretty much always starfall in aoe if you are in ecl or would be overcapping. the issue is pressing the button while you dont have the resources

[lofty depot]

Go to top gear and add the a craft with an embell

[livid jay]

look at twintops resource bar it gives lines for when u can press starfall on your ap bar

[unreal stratus]

She just said that she's worried to lost the starfall stack so she mash the button (while casting starfire)

[craggy sonnet]

though especially for her sometimes panicking with movement, saving some ap to have a gcd to spend when you have to move is something you need to learn when necessary as well

[livid jay]

shes worried to loose the starfall stack?

what does that mean

[ruby badger]

Nah Oi posted a gif of her just running around for 2 secs doing nothing pressing starfall with not enough AP

[craggy sonnet]

lose starfall stacks?

[livid jay]

u dont loose starfall stacks

it doesnt extend

[ruby badger]

Which if it's due to panic whatever

[unreal stratus]

When you're a 2 or 3 stacks

[ruby badger]

Probs means starlord

[livid jay]

oh starlord

[craggy sonnet]

nah, cant be starlord

[livid jay]

but u dont loose those either

[craggy sonnet]

that makes no sense

[livid jay]

[ruby badger]

It's a guy translating into a language he's not super fluent in from a class he doesn't play

[craggy sonnet]

can you try to explain what the worry is?

[livid jay]

explain it in french if thats easier i can summon someone

[vital heart]

For most raid builds, starfire doesn't get cast?

[lofty depot]

Depends on ur want to minmax

[ruby badger]

Yeah not a lot of situations where you can lunar eclipse and hit enough targets with starfire during it

[unreal stratus]

That "3" thing

[ruby badger]

assuming KoTG

[craggy sonnet]

oh, that doesnt matter at all

[vital heart]

ye

[lofty depot]

U cast starfire with the instant cast in incarn

[livid jay]

ok then she doesnt understand how starefall stacks work one sec

[craggy sonnet]

dont worry about that number

[unreal stratus]

omfg

[craggy sonnet]

its just all the active starfalls, they stack but dont extend

they are individual instances

[ruby badger]

You can lunar eclipse on beloren for eggs, haven't looked at L'ura

[unreal stratus]

yeah but if you have like 6 stacks it does way more dmg no ?

[ruby badger]

but everything else stuff will die too quick

[livid jay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wXf4qztryFbgNjRG?fight=last&source=161&type=auras&ability=191034&start=20486305&end=20529828

[craggy sonnet]

they are all individual. for the starfall you press this gcd it doesnt matter how many starfalls are still rolling

[livid jay]

dont look at the number at all, press it when you can use it and when you should use it

the stack number does not do anything, each of those 3 starfalls does its own damage

[worthy nimbus]

do we go double arcanoweave lining in that case?

[lofty depot]

Ye

[craggy sonnet]

there is no crucial element to trying to stack as many starfalls as possible.
it is detrimental however if you lose effective uptime trying to hammer the starfall button and you cant even cast it

[void jacinth]

how bout keys high?

[stable frigate]

For your sims you chose the haste mastery staff from Nexus - is that because you think it's BiS with the Haste mastery or would a Mastery/Crit staff do just as well ?

[lucid olive]

sim your character and not mine

[lofty depot]

Have u considered u can get that staff easier than others

[lucid olive]

shouldve added an agility weapon just to throw people off

[stable frigate]

Considering I've coined 3 times NPT and I haven't gotten it - there is a big chance I can get it easily, yeah.
I just got this staff in vault and thought mastery(crit is decent for us as well.

[lucid olive]

thats a good weapon yes

[lofty depot]

Well it is, but that implies u simmed ur shit and not his shit

And then simmed either staff against each other

Remind urself that bis lists are fake and all we do is sim our character and take what's best

[civic junco]

Le temps de recharge le plus important pour la spécialisation Équilibre n'est pas « Incarnation », mais celui de l'objet de poche que tu utilises. Oi l'a déjà mentionné plus haut, mais d'après le journal de combat, ta copine active « Incarnation » dès qu'il est disponible, au lieu d'attendre que son objet de poche le soit. C'est juste une question de mentalité. Garde la macro pour utiliser les deux, mais surveille surtout le temps de recharge de l'objet de poche. Ne pas rester bloqué à deux charges est une priorité secondaire.

[lofty depot]

HEY NO FRENCH IN THE CHAT

[civic junco]

DESOLE! DESOLE!

[lofty depot]

Especially that "les deux" part

[civic junco]

Je suis un Anglo deprave

[unreal stratus]

Trinket is your "Objet de poche" I guess 😄

[civic junco]

I am guessing, tbh. I've studied french for 7 years and I am... reasonably fluent. But my spoken french is awful.

[lofty depot]

Object of pocket?

Or what that mean

[civic junco]

basically ya

[unreal stratus]

Usually the trinket is in a macro with incarn but seem to desync a little bit

[lofty depot]

God I'm smart

[civic junco]

HES BECOMING FRENCH

[lofty depot]

I don't know french

[civic junco]

NUKE THE CHANNEL

[lofty depot]

I did some objective deduction

[ruby badger]

God he's even speaking french rn... objective...

deduction as well I think

[lucid olive]

⬜

[lofty depot]

The only objective that happened in france was when a certain someone walked in there with some tanks

Objective taken

[livid jay]

why do americans talk about nazis so much

[royal zenith]

good question

[civic junco]

GI Robot is my favourite fictional character

[royal zenith]

but then again this peanut guy also made bombing japan jokes

so I think they are just, in general, detached from reality

[lucid olive]

can't stand the peanut guy

[vital heart]

Can this be shape-shifted to get rid of it? The one from pit that slows people and does a pretty hard-hitting DoT

[civic junco]

yes

[vital heart]

epic

[civic junco]

Druid very, very strong in Pit

[lofty depot]

Which part

[royal zenith]

?

[lofty depot]

Make jokes about 9/11 too. Nothing is out of reach buddy

[lucid olive]

I never knew Burnt Peanut before I saw him in clips with Nickmercs

and I think that guy is one of the biggest idiots on the internet

[lofty depot]

Which one

Kek

[lucid olive]

Nickmercs

and therefore by extension Peanut as well

[lofty depot]

Well peanut was popular before Nickmercs

[lucid olive]

i doubt that

[royal zenith]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-point-over-your-head-1--k01KQYV68YXD4DMXX3Z4GHBYHPZ

[lofty depot]

Ud be wrong

[lucid olive]

burnt peanut first yt video was 2 years ago

nickmercs been streaming since gears of war xbox 360

[lofty depot]

Ok

[lucid olive]

nickmercs fumbled million dollar deal before burnt peanut had a single follower

[lofty depot]

Burnt peanut was getting 10k views prior to arc

[lucid olive]

arc is just another shooter game in long line of shooter games that attract that crowd

[vital heart]

yeah decurse + shape-shifting some debuffs + the type of pulls in pit makes for a good time on boomie forsure

[lofty depot]

It's funny u dont like peanut when he's literally James randal

[vital heart]

love being able to decurse the patchwerk fat american + kalis boss curse as well

[lofty depot]

Patchwork fat American

[vital heart]

Can we get another maintenance tomorrow please? Pretty please with sprinkles on top

[lucid olive]

there's a really clear difference between those two

[lofty depot]

Yea one gets 30k views

[civic junco]

I would accept a maintenance every single day if they reverted the game to TWW API

[lucid olive]

and it's Spaceboy being a really genuine and nice person

and his character is in a consensual invite-only server with other people who want to interact

[vital heart]

revert the game back to whichever WoW engine didn't tank fps in raid

[royal zenith]

so like 20 years?

[vital heart]

nah

even legion was fine

I'd say around BfA

[lofty depot]

Maybe upgrade ur PC from when legion was

[civic junco]

Yeah this might be specific to your specific hardware

[vital heart]

around the bfa/shadowlands/DF era where they "modernized" a lot of shit, I feel like somewhere around there they dramatically changed game engine

[vital heart]

I think I'm good? I'm on a 7800x3d and 4080 lol

[civic junco]

I remember Sylvanas and Broodtwister being the worst FPS bosses, and I played a potato for both of those

[vital heart]

and i use the optimal raid settings from ellesmere

[lofty depot]

Why is ur fps shit then

Imagine he has the raid/bg thing checked

Kek

[civic junco]

Clearly its a divine judgment that speaks to the severity of his sins and the quality of his nature as a human being.

[vital heart]

normally its fine like 80-100 fps i guess but MQD is atrocious and I remember nerubar palace being shitly optimized as well

[vital heart]

might be this because for dinner I had starbucks drink, burrito and cinnamon roll. gluttony is a cardinal sin

[royal zenith]

nerubar spider boss was also kinda ugh

[vital heart]

that and uhh, the g'hunn looking boss

[lucid olive]

i hate spider bosses

[vital heart]

the one where you pop her/his/they them xe xer eggs

[royal zenith]

optimization has been pretty shit for the last 4 years

for sure

[lucid olive]

Tindral was crazy

[royal zenith]

and obv you can do stuff on your side but it's been really bad

[lucid olive]

I bought a 7800x3d during Tindral and then bought 9950x3d during Dimensius

[vital heart]

thats what im saying

[lucid olive]

Blizzard must have a deal with AMD or something to time badly optimized raids with new CPU releases

[royal zenith]

I have no idea how they are so bad with this if Im honest

[civic junco]

Babe, wake up. Gamz dropped a new conspiracy theory.

[royal zenith]

like why would generate 20 voidorbs

[vital heart]

game engine is unoptimized for sure, because even when I had old hardware during cata/mop/wod days, honestly the FPS was constantly smooth. I have a 7800x3d and even now a 9950x3d and shits rough sometimes, I square to god it's something to do with the modern game engine im telling you

[royal zenith]

would you*

with nameplates

that you know will tank players fps

unless they have above average pc's

it's a weird decision

[lucid olive]

My absolute favorite thing are the players who go "just use this thing to disable the nameplates and it saves so many frames!"

like on Dimensius p2

when the thing just made the nameplates invisible instead of removing them

[royal zenith]

yeah exactly, that's just

[lucid olive]

they were still rendered

[royal zenith]

fighting symptoms

or trying to

just fix your game blizzard

[vital heart]

actually disabling damage/healing numbers on ground/around players helps fps a bit, idk about friendly nameplates though

[round field]

bbro i remember our tank played tindral in 480p

[royal zenith]

it does

[round field]

his game looked like old gameboy pokemon game

[royal zenith]

both of those do a lot

especially in towns

[vital heart]

yup i got both friendly nameplates and healing/damage numbers disabled, fuck it, whatever helps at this point

[lucid olive]

Did you know that if you went outside of one of the delves in Azjkahet and you just camped there AFK

your PC would crash after like 30-40 minutes

[vital heart]

oh another thing you can do is change details update interval to 1.0s or above

that helps a lil

[royal zenith]

I did not know that, but that's funny

[lucid olive]

yeah every addon with a tick rate basically

[royal zenith]

also logging out of lura every x amount of time

[lucid olive]

yeah that place had bad memory leak

Queldanas has memory leak too

but that might have been fixed idk

[civic junco]

Memory leak? That's just Xalatath's influence corrupting our PC.

[lucid olive]

check out my Nvoidia GPU

[civic junco]

lmao

new tier is just us fighting Jensen Huang's paycheck

[vital heart]

what buff you guys usually take on AA? I usually grab the blue mastery one

i guess haste and crit could also work

[lucid olive]

I either to haste or mast one but all 3 are fine

you can sim it if you wanted to

[vital heart]

haste is bronze im assuming? time related = haste

[vital heart]

really? lmao whats the string code for it

[lucid olive]

set_custom_buff=dragon_vers,stat_value=3%_versatility
set_custom_buff=dragon_haste,stat_value=3%_haste
set_custom_buff=dragon_crit,stat_value=3%_crit```

[vital heart]

holy cheese n crackers they actually have a sim string for that

[lucid olive]

probably add it to an Algethar dungeonroute if you wanna be fancy

[royal zenith]

what do you take us for

content creators like aqual?

smh

[vital heart]

lolol

[civic junco]

XD

[vital heart]

just funny as hell they have a sim string for that idk

[lucid olive]

you say us but I stole that from @pallid bay discord that has a "do not share from here" rule!!

[vital heart]

i guess if there's something to minmax, they'll find a way to sim it, makes sense

[royal zenith]

reported

[lucid olive]

technically i broke the law so dll could get his buff!

[jolly delta]

it's a buff, you can sim most relevant buffs

[vital heart]

[royal zenith]

I think this should be a more common thing

[lucid olive]

you can create any buff as long as you know how to write the value

[pallid bay]

gg stealer

[lucid olive]

[lofty depot]

U can just add stats to a sim and not need the buff for it

[jolly delta]

can you? genuine question

[pallid bay]

someone should clean up the simc stuff

[jolly delta]

I thought that they had to be added in simc first

for the less straightforward ones

[pallid bay]

any generic buff

[royal zenith]

Oi's discord is invite only, how'd you get in gmz

[jolly delta]

He got invited duh

[royal zenith]

doubt...

[lofty depot]

He invites plebs a lot

[jolly delta]

Patreon subscription?

[royal zenith]

that's it

he's patreon supporter

[lucid olive]

its almost 3 years..

[pallid bay]

plebs requesting other plebs to be invited

[lucid olive]

actually think I was Sune's only subscriber on Patreon

before he got banned

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[royal zenith]

correct

[lucid olive]

I should sue Patreon for that honestly

banning my creator like that

[pallid bay]

i dont think i even got paid

[civic junco]

Patreon legit hates small content creators

[jolly delta]

no but fr why did you get banned

nude pics?

[royal zenith]

[pallid bay]

i can pull up the email

[lucid olive]

what, my 20 kroner just straight in the patreon sink??

[civic junco]

Its legit why I started an only fans

[jolly delta]

Oi also did

[royal zenith]

Patreon be like "yeah that's against our policy" and just take peoples money

classic

[civic junco]

link 👀

[lofty depot]

Should've used venmo

[pallid bay]

thats it

[lucid olive]

[normal pilot]

did you contact them?

[pallid bay]

all i had was 2 .txt files

[ruby badger]

Big Moonkin got him

[lucid olive]

I paid Sune for a notepad that said if you want to rank 1 parse you should queue PVP before raid

leaking the tech

[pallid bay]

no, i should have an AI do it now though out of spite

[royal zenith]

Gamz is really good with his money...

trust...

[lofty depot]

Smh, real money trading

[normal pilot]

well ya you can't complain if you didn't follow instructions

[lucid olive]

definitely not

[royal zenith]

neither am I

so I just stopped spending it

[lucid olive]

all the wowhead dollars being sent straight on doordash

[royal zenith]

good call, I should get sushi tonight

[pallid bay]

someone find a correction that needs to be made on wowhead

we aint paying him to do nothing

[civic junco]

I live next to the best bakery in Ottawa. Best life decision I've ever made.

[lucid olive]

my favorite button ever invented is the "leave order at my door" toggle

[pallid bay]

can always complain, thats why i play wow..

[royal zenith]

actually fresh bread is goated

OR WELL

depends

are we talking american bread...

[jolly delta]

I wish that worked

Tried it like 4/5 times

[royal zenith]

wait ottowa

[lucid olive]

it works here..

[jolly delta]

And each time it led to an awkward moment where the courier was outside of my door

Calling me

[pallid bay]

i put "4th floor", they call and ask me to come down

[jolly delta]

And me not wanting to open out of principle

[lucid olive]

ah yeah that'd do it

i live on ground floor

[jolly delta]

Both of us just standing there for 2m

[royal zenith]

"entrance on the side of the subway"
-> get call... yo where do I enter the building

😭

[lofty depot]

Shouldve told them u had COVID and no contact

[lucid olive]

have you tried getting a rope and basket and delivering thru the window??

[lofty depot]

Rookies

[jolly delta]

Yes I'm Italian

[royal zenith]

wrong

[lucid olive]

no you're russian

mans got his govvy name on github and tries to pass as italian..

[jolly delta]

The surname is Italian

[lofty depot]

So ur a mut

[lucid olive]

do people call you nik

did you name yourself Vinter so people would start calling you Vinny?

[royal zenith]

Vincento

[lucid olive]

Vinny is the most american-italian name I could think of

[jolly delta]

Once I was walking through the streets in Naples and saw a pistol falling down from a window. Then someone quickly picked it up and placed it in a basket dropped down with a rope

[lucid olive]

thats some insane politeness

[jolly delta]

Ye

[jolly delta]

No

[wicked shuttle]

Nik “Vinny” Vinter

[normal pilot]

maybe he's a vinter

[royal zenith]

Terniv confirmed??

[lofty depot]

Tettles is back, we can talk about boomkin not doing crystal damage

[lucid olive]

stop being weird

i know thats like telling the sky to stop being blue and grass to stop growing

but alas

[jolly delta]

Tettles have u seen simcode

[wicked shuttle]

Do you think moonkin cranks the crystals?

[lofty depot]

Holy war was started

I can't stop it

[wicked shuttle]

Haven’t checked in a few weeks

[lofty depot]

Uhh I be cranking

[lucid olive]

tettles gave up wowhead and realized he has no reason to check in on moonkin anymore

smh

[royal zenith]

Im pretty sure it's just because

moonkin is

trash

in m+

[lucid olive]

yeah

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

mid of the pack in raid and mid of the pack in m+

unfortunate

[lofty depot]

And that's with 2 devs and a fire mage

Gotta rise above

[wicked shuttle]

I’m raiding on moonkin!!!!

I’m just benched on lura

[lofty depot]

Define raiding

[uncut roost]

How much did you pay for the spot?

[lucid olive]

benched on lura in a guild that does 2 weeks of reclear and AFKs until next tier

i guess there's the Sporefall raid

[jolly delta]

[civic junco]

Porom is unhinged. Don't let anything he says about our beloved Gamz sully your opinion

[wicked shuttle]

Ig a better question is wtf is your Ele / DHs doing?

[jolly delta]

No you're missing some context

[lofty depot]

Uhh getting sniped

Me better

[wicked shuttle]

Getting sniped by starfall

Amen

[lofty depot]

No

[lucid olive]

gg

I was wondering how to post it in there to make it not seem like slop idk

I think SimCode is great just from the editor alone

[wicked shuttle]

Idk, I don’t think moonkin is especially good at hitting midnight crystals even looking at logs. Looks like most ppl are doing about 9m to them in P1 and good specs are like 13-16m

[lofty depot]

Getting sniped by mushroom

[wicked shuttle]

Ah big boom

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[wicked shuttle]

I said that to gamz in dms that I wondered if mushrooms was good on that fight

[lofty depot]

I'm doing 12-13 usually

[jolly delta]

ye idk it's all good, I reached out individually to porom and whispyr and they both said it's awesome

[lofty depot]

Think mushroom gives me a butter button press during p2 aswell

[lucid olive]

I think people are really desensitized at this point with new stuff and assumes it's slop

[lofty depot]

See how it goes

[lucid olive]

you can see that cause like

[wicked shuttle]

Everything is slop xdd

[jolly delta]

so I think that now I have everyone in the wow community that writes APL

[lucid olive]

I posted that thing in wowhead writer channel and the only people that joined were because of Guilty

and that's because the feral guys know you from here and from the website

the rest probably skimmed through it and assumed slop

[wicked shuttle]

Is it real lore that you have to get hourly guide updates approved before you make them?

[lucid olive]

I stayed out of that entire conversation yesterday lmfao

[lucid olive]

This is the extreme version of it I think

[wicked shuttle]

lol. Lmao even

[lucid olive]

It is more like "hey I am letting you know that I will be billing for 2 hours this month because of this and this"

[jolly delta]

Yeah idk I was hoping word of mouth would be enough tbf

Like

If Gamz is recommending something then I have good priors to believe it's a decent tool

[wicked shuttle]

I can’t imagine people were just rdm billing hourly updates

[jolly delta]

Looks like they see you as the slop guy unforch

[wicked shuttle]

But maybe they’re less ethical than us

[lucid olive]

I am not as known outside of Dreamgrove as some people think

[lucid olive]

I haven't billed a single hourly update yet..

I probably should have for the updates I did on rotation and raid tips page

[wicked shuttle]

I’d only bill hourly updates when I randomly had to full update the guide due to reworks xd

[jolly delta]

Idk I would personally extend this to any wowhead guide writer tbf. Regardless of how much I know them.

[lucid olive]

yeah

[jolly delta]

But yeah w/e it really doesn't matter

Maybe I'll cold dm firedup as well and then I should have enough feedback to fix shit for another month

[lucid olive]

this is what I posted

[jolly delta]

Remove pls

[wicked shuttle]

lol

[lucid olive]

smh

[jolly delta]

It's just that I don't want too many sign ups from random people

[wicked shuttle]

You guys see the drama in the bear channel?

[jolly delta]

No what happened

[vital heart]

whats the ability on paladins boss that slows everyone?

[lucid olive]

divine toll i think?

i think its the one that mistweavers use revival on

[wicked shuttle]

Ya, I thought it was toll

[vital heart]

That slow on paladins fight, and the tether on dragons boss, can they both be shape-shifted or will you just get it again 1s later?

[lucid olive]

they can't

the one on paladins maybe

but tether on dragons can't

you can also just wild charge out of the tether to not lose uptime

[wicked shuttle]

If anything snare removal doesn’t remove the dot

[royal zenith]

100%

If you are in the business of getting billed by hour/time

[wicked shuttle]

They’re now experimenting with no apex builds in m+ due to their class tuning. Lotta people are just making up their own builds rn and it’s kind of up in flames LOL

[royal zenith]

Full send

[vital heart]

Or there other slows/snares/roots that can be Blessing of Freedomed/Shape-shifted in this tier besides dragons and paladins? Those are the only two that come to mind atm

can't think of any at DR or MQD either

[fossil hemlock]

No apex builds are fine, whatever. My problem is the people macroing IF to everything and pressing thrash MF MF MF MF thrash until the key is over and saying it's a good build when we have both sim and log evidence that it's not actually that good

But it's strong enough that it works in +20s so

[royal zenith]

Feels > all

[fossil hemlock]

Apparently pressing mangle is complicated

And god forbid you think about maul

[civic junco]

Thorns of Iron was a bad talent. rest in piss

[fossil hemlock]

Someone legit even asked for a thrash MF cast sequence macro

Like that's legit just OBR at that point lmao

[wicked shuttle]

OBR can time 20s, so

Shouldn’t be shocked

[normal pilot]

you guys just need to follow the gamz arc

he used to be all about hard core min max

then he realized this is just a casual game

[fossil hemlock]

Realest talk in dreamgrove I've read all day

[wicked shuttle]

Garyyeet is progging Lura with the OBR rn

[normal pilot]

now he's all cool

toi is peak gameplay for the type of players that wow is geared for

[civic junco]

true but thats why i hate the game now lol

[normal pilot]

kind of futile trying to fight the developer

[lofty depot]

Okkkkk dude

[lucid olive]

it shows

[lofty depot]

Says the convoke player

Made the other boomkin sit for this, smh

[jolly delta]

Where's the drama? Are Kitch and Kele insulting everyone?

[lofty depot]

Kele is likely being invaded by feral players

It's the nature of the beast

[fossil hemlock]

Woah I'm on my redemption arc

I'm trying to be as polite as possible

And making an active effort to just say "good for you, play what you enjoy"

[lucid olive]

real

[wicked shuttle]

I’ve been pinged 3 times that people are “suggesting bad builds” LOL

[lofty depot]

Weak mind

[lucid olive]

wanna make it 4?

[fossil hemlock]

Tbf one moderator ping was people continuously trolling over like 30 minutes telling new people in doubt to spam swipe over everything

Because haha funny meme

[wicked shuttle]

Please ping the mods. I wanna see thyme kill you gamz

[lucid olive]

nuh uh

[candid plover]

do I never press Mangle at all?

[lucid olive]

was gonna ping you personally

not all mods

[fossil hemlock]

Probably not a dps increase over pressing wrath or starfire (you're in the moonkin channel)

[royal zenith]

Bears are worse than moonkins confirmed

[lofty depot]

@themods

[royal zenith]

(Behavior wise)

[lucid olive]

guardian druid hasn't been meta enough times

[candid plover]

AHAH sorry

[lucid olive]

the discord regulard dont know how to handle it

[lofty depot]

Kele is a regular?

Not in my dreamgrove

[fossil hemlock]

[craggy sonnet]

[fossil hemlock]

I'm as much a regular as anakin is a jedi master

[jolly delta]

Idk if it's just me but that doesn't sound new to me. Every time I poked my head into #guardian I got terrible advice from white names

[lofty depot]

You're on the council but you are not a master

[civic junco]

Kele your trolling in the guardian channel has me in stitches. A+

[lucid olive]

i don't think i've ever asked for advice in guardian channel

maybe some talent stuff but i just ping kele for that

[royal zenith]

I have

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm I know that meme

[wicked shuttle]

vibe based spec

[royal zenith]

Was one of my first msgs in this discord

[lucid olive]

real

[royal zenith]

Instantly got into a discussion

[lucid olive]

i'm just pressing ironfur man

[fossil hemlock]

You can count the amount of actually knowledgable bears on one hand even if you lost a finger in an accident, faster to just dm one of them instead

[lucid olive]

don't wanna macro ironfur though cause its really fun button to constantly press

[lofty depot]

Gonna dm psybear

[wicked shuttle]

crazier thing is i know many guardian druids who have gotten the .1% title with IF macroed into thrash...

[normal pilot]

aren't all tank discord channels a disaster anyways

[lofty depot]

I heard everyone hates him

[lucid olive]

i was doing a key as bear earlier and then someone knocked on my door

and i stood afk for over a minute

[normal pilot]

and that's by design cuz blizz makes tanking easy

[lucid olive]

came back and was full hp

[normal pilot]

and prolly a good thing. tanks are rare enough as it is

[fossil hemlock]

Every season we get a new clip of Squishvegan trying to ress their healer but he can't generate the rage for it

[lucid olive]

bring back vengeance

[normal pilot]

you guys keep fighting agasint the game man

[wicked shuttle]

just proves that decision making is more important than being perfect rotationally

[normal pilot]

ppl want easy gameplay that's why they play wow

if i can finish a key with 1 button, that is superior to everything else

[lucid olive]

i'm just a dreamer

i haven't been broken yet

[fossil hemlock]

Only thing I'm fighting is the urge to eat another kitkat

[civic junco]

people want World of Warcraft idle so they can play with a baby in one hand and a beer in the other

And above all, they want the game design to hide the fact they suck

[royal zenith]

That is actually so good

[normal pilot]

they don't suck

[fossil hemlock]

I mean I can't blame people for that. If you only have 2 hours of game time a week with your 3 wives and 14 kids then of course you'd want the easiest way to be a good player

[normal pilot]

they're playing teh game

what sucks is spending rage on internet fighting ppl who're playing the game in the direction the developers point it towards

[lofty depot]

Start training 4 of the 14 kids how to play the game

The 3 wives can take the other 10

Shrimple

[civic junco]

I've read enough opinions. Bring back OmniCD. Fire Ion Hazzikostas.

[fossil hemlock]

Don't think an addon is a good choice for game director

[lofty depot]

Why are u reading opinions when u should be writing the spreadsheet

The fuck we doing

[vital heart]

can Suppression Field be shape-shifted in NPX? The slow you get while clearing first trash around mana bombs area

[jovial sundial]

Ye

[vital heart]

epic penis

[civic junco]

epic penis

[vital heart]

penice

[lucid olive]

that truly does suck

spend rage on ironfur instead

[lofty depot]

Should just tell this guy that everything works so he bricks shit for fun

[vital heart]

cmon

https://tenor.com/view/biden-malarkey-angry-thats-a-bunch-of-malarkey-give-me-a-break-gif-15715982

[lofty depot]

Thanks a lot joe byron

[vital heart]

Can I shape-shift ore throw on Hodor boss in pit, completely negating the mechanic and then there's no ore for the tank to break

say yes

[lofty depot]

Meld it

[vital heart]

can you literally actually meld it? all jokes aside

[lucid olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11pOj8w823fjBJqnOWTCA9vwL8_TVJF-kWFCK6WGJ7Jk/edit?gid=675153649#gid=675153649

youre welcome

[lofty depot]

Smh

[fossil hemlock]

Man, Tactyks is kind of goated

[lucid olive]

thats the sheet all the wowhead guys used to write our m+ guide page

(that also has information on what you can meld or shift, but not complete)

[lofty depot]

Why gamz not letting me troll

What he means is stop asking questions

[civic junco]

what if the beer I am holding is like a son to me? What then?

[vital heart]

would we even want to meld this? is this the one that gives us buff?

[civic junco]

it does damage and eventually contributes to floor clutter. It's not a must meld. Its just nice to know you have the option. Warriors usually spell reflect it.

[vital heart]

is this the one though that gives us a buff or is it something else

[civic junco]

it gives you a stack of the buff

debuff rather

debuff gives haste, so its confusing

[lucid olive]

being hit by anything on that boss gives dmg no

you can just soak 2 of the floating orbs at the beginning to get 2 stacks

energy bomb debuff does dam as well afaik

but idk how much it matters, i am not an m+er

[ruby badger]

If you're at 2 and don't want to have your stacks reset you can meld it

[vital heart]

you mean do reset, right?

because melding it would drop your stacks soon probably

[ruby badger]

I mean unless I'm schiz'ing out
You're at 2, energy bomb hits, you hit 3 and reset, gotta grab more orbs now
You're at 2, energy bomb goes on you, meld, never hits, don't have to grab more orbs

[lucid olive]

your stacks are perma no?

they don't have a timer

[vital heart]

i think water god steven is correct, if you get hit by a 3rd thing then the stacks reset

should just try to grab 2 stacks immediately then avoid as much as possible after that

[lucid olive]

yes they reset after 3, but they're still perma

you can meld the cast if getting hit would get you to 3 stacks and reset

[ruby badger]

watergod steven is my father's name, you can just call me steven

[craggy sonnet]

shouldnt use your fathers account then

[ruby badger]

[tranquil vault]

at lura what interrupts can i use as balance. solar beam, but what others 🙂

[lofty depot]

U don't need any others

[tranquil vault]

our raid slacks 🙂

[royal zenith]

you're the last class to focus on interrupts

[lofty depot]

Well ur not the one to help

Also, if someone misses it's not like it's easily fixable

Someone is likely dead so it's harder later

So learn to do the mechanic

[tranquil vault]

memory is pretty hard 🙂

[lofty depot]

How

[tranquil vault]

to remember the 5 in correct order it seems hehe

[lofty depot]

Why r u remembering it?

[tranquil vault]

but it is working.. now issue with the adds 🙂

addon is not working or at least we 're not installing the other solution 😉

[lofty depot]

I'm confused

[lucid olive]

basically any CC works on them outside of mythic

have a feeling this is a classic case of arctic assuming person is asking about mythic

[tranquil vault]

it's heroic 🙂

[lucid olive]

yes

solar beam, incap roar, typhoon, mighty bash

etc

all should work

[lofty depot]

Imagine

Getting aotc when u get ce

[dense steeple]

yo gamz

someone slapped a myth boe legs on my ah for 300k today

[lofty depot]

Boe legs what the helly

[dense steeple]

yeah was crazy

yesterday they were like 800k

today they are averaging around 6-700

and there was a haaste vers one for 300

[lucid olive]

probably cheaper on another server..

[smoky prawn]

is treant cast at cursor bugged at beloren?

[dense steeple]

too late

300k was low enough to make it worth

i dont think 110 crests is enough to make me 285 ilvl

[royal zenith]

almost as if myth gear is getting redundant

8 weeks in

[lucid olive]

I hit 285 and still have 80 crests left

[dense steeple]

leather has the most expensive shit

everyone else is literally half the price

which honestly just makes me not feel bad about not spending 700k

[royal zenith]

should never feel bad about spending gold

that's what it's for

[dense steeple]

im gonna need the gold to buy mounts later

[lofty depot]

R u trying to place it on the egg or

I didn't have issues but idk

[dense steeple]

oh shit i did it

[smoky prawn]

nah the 2nd treants right before 2nd soak

spamming the macro but they wont come out

never had it happen like this in midnight

[lofty depot]

No clue, would have to see a vod

[lucid olive]

if its a recurring issue just macro it [@player] instead

[smoky prawn]

it was working the first few tries but now it doesent, i'll try at player thankjs

[scarlet tapir]

dhow many myth items do u have

show show show

[dense steeple]

okay but im not fed

[dense steeple]

all but one

[uncut roost]

You did it!

[scarlet tapir]

damn, i have 6 hero items

on main

[lucid olive]

neither was i smh

[scarlet tapir]

am i cooked or what

[dense steeple]

get better vaults idk

[scarlet tapir]

not even a vault issue

[lucid olive]

i got some tier items in raid and the rest are vault or bonus rolls

[dense steeple]

yeah mine is like 7 or 8 vault+bonus roll

and i looted every item possible in nexus point so its not even like i got lucky on bonus rolls

it took me 6 bonus rolls to get just the 2 rings

[scarlet tapir]

had to spend 2 bonus rolls on vaelgors so L

[dense steeple]

L

[smoky prawn]

the problem is the blue wall that leads to lura room, if you set them with birds eye view it works

[lofty depot]

Have u considered puttjng your cursor on the ground

[smoky prawn]

it is

[lofty depot]

Doesn't seem like it

[smoky prawn]

if i put my camera above my character it works

other boomie had the same issue

[dense steeple]

so then the issue is your camera angle

[lucid olive]

maybe you're dropping it on other side of something with collision

[dense steeple]

youve solved the problem

[smoky prawn]

yeah the blue wall that which blocks the way to lura was the collision issue

[lofty depot]

I mean yea, that sounds like a cursor issue

[smoky prawn]

even if i have my cursor like this they wont come out

was camera angle

issue not cursor

[lofty depot]

So ur standing there the whole time.... And didn't think it was a problem

Also yea my mistake cursor not issue

[smoky prawn]

i tried different ways, cause it worked a few tries and didnt work a few tries

[lofty depot]

Just looking at ur picture, I've never wanted my camera in this position ever

So was curious

[lucid olive]

yeah idk, from that angle it seems pretty obvious what the issue is..

youre basically aiming at an invisible and solid wall that youre LOSd by

[smoky prawn]

yeah jsut didnt figure it out during the tries

because of the orbs coming as well and so on

[obtuse robin]

yo guys how do you sim for m+ gearing (crit vs other stats for example)? Whats the most accurate way of doing so (if thats even possible)?

dungeon slice bad right?

[dense steeple]

regardless, to answer your original question with this newfound info. no nothing is bugged there. youre just in a bad spot

[craggy sonnet]

Just sim st.. when in doubt put on the piece with more haste

[smoky prawn]

yeah just a me problem,but wouldnt have been the first time having issues with treants

[dense steeple]

camera angle issues in this xpac just feels more egregious because everything has weird ass walls and ceilings

theyve always been problematic

just learn where its weird and avoid the issue

[obtuse robin]

thats what I've been doing so far, but sim keeps favouring mastery/haste over crit, even ring enchants, so I thought maybe I was missing smth

[craggy sonnet]

You mean over the eagle ring enchants?

That is almost impossible I feel

[obtuse robin]

ikr

[craggy sonnet]

Link

[obtuse robin]

hence my confusion

[craggy sonnet]

But won't be able to look for another half hour or so

[obtuse robin]

lemme redo it from scratch, haven't done one in a while

[dense steeple]

inc its going to suggest eagle

[obtuse robin]

I hope so ye

it wouldnt make sense otherwise

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5vfYY1fsdvsVgaZo7hVYBZ

ok that makes a lot more sense

but why magister is still over crit flask if sim prios crit gems? its marginal ik but feels weird lol

[craggy sonnet]

Crit flask sim prios mastery gems

Tho you could try simming the crit meta gem

And max colors

[obtuse robin]

im p sure it was in the sim

im missing a socket, hence why it wouldnt come out on top ig

[lofty depot]

What other boss with weird walls and ceilings

[dense steeple]

literally every dungeon besides pit

for starters

[lofty depot]

Skill issue

[lofty depot]

U also don't have replace gems checked or

Ur crafted gear is also all over the place

Probably 2-3k difference in that alone

[obtuse robin]

ye it'll be fixed next week, got new weapon, will move embellish to belt and recraft boots

[lofty depot]

That doesn't change the gem problem

But to each there one

[obtuse robin]

wdym gem problem? put all options and items with nothing in sockets

[lofty depot]

Lol ur just adding steps for fun

[obtuse robin]

to each there own ig

(im just stupid)

[lofty depot]

Well yea but that just requires u to press a check box

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wrViLuDVWv9yZ6XqaQUtwt

Will likely change next week but need to learn how to gem sim

And change missives cuz ezpz

[craggy sonnet]

you have enough to get one of each color

[lofty depot]

I put it on there

[craggy sonnet]

oh shh .. thats with my apl

f me

no, you didnt tick max colors

[lofty depot]

Smh silly phone

I clicked it grr

[craggy sonnet]

gg gotta rerun it

[lucid olive]

i ran a gem sim with your APL 2 hours ago

it just finished!

[craggy sonnet]

im not sure thats the fault of the apl tbh.. feel like gem sims take waaaay longer for some reason than other combination stuff. not sure it has always been that way. (maybe it is the apl idk)

[obtuse robin]

will def play around with it learn how to sim properly, thanks a lot 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

can compare tho .. im running basically the same sim again right now .. with default

just takes a few

[lucid olive]

little bit of column A little bit of column B

[craggy sonnet]

ye maybe

but interesting point. i'll compare

[hasty mirage]

Gem sims feel like they could be smarter, it feels like they are resimming variations that would end up giving the same stats

Like why else would it always overwrite my meta gem into the first gem slot if I already have it in a different one?

[craggy sonnet]

it prios the meta

its just always moved in the first slot

if you replace, whatever you already have doesnt matter anymore

[hasty mirage]

well sure, but it still runs the base character and then it ends up running another configuration where that same setup is shifted so the meta is in the first slot right?

i suppose that's just a single iteration though so basically negligible time cost

[craggy sonnet]

ye, and thats only if your current config is even a valid combination with what you selected

though idk if it actually would sim that again

[craggy sonnet]

wooof, maybe server load but i think base apl is gonna be slower 💀

[loud kettle]

Its because all combos are inherently close, so youre running full iterations on all of those combos

As opposed to the vast majority running at lower iterations

[craggy sonnet]

yea. but i feel like there was a time where its been faster

[loud kettle]

Well spec variance is very relevant too

Higher variance means more iterations needed to get the same accuracy

[craggy sonnet]

but totally conjecture i think

makes sense

[loud kettle]

Boomy apl also just has a lot of variables, you could speed it up if some were handled in druid module

[normal pilot]

balance is one of the higher rng specs

[craggy sonnet]

fiesta spec

[loud kettle]

yea feral sims got noticeably faster this patch vs last just because its significantly lower rng

Well wildstalker anyway (:

[normal pilot]

also ya, variables will slow things down

feral's around middle for variance

[craggy sonnet]

now im wondering if the default apl has a higher variance than mine

since it has less variables i think

but seems to take longer rn

(again, maybe server load)

[normal pilot]

if you want to test you just do it locally with a fixed # of iterations using hyperfine or similar

[craggy sonnet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kkUHs7YYBw8fFr6aMirBxH

@lofty depot huge gains btw

actually .. maybe i did change something else for comparing apls

ggs

[loud kettle]

This is what i expected yea

It was like, 3rd

Disaster

Black arrow hunters and maybe enh were swingier and that was about it

[normal pilot]

outlaw/ele's worst atm

arms/ddh/balance next worst

ele's one of the fastest sim tho, so they actually take less time overall than balance even with higher iterations

[lofty depot]

whats the variance on uptime

[loud kettle]

+-20%

[lofty depot]

thats a lot.....

[loud kettle]

maybe it was 25%

[pallid bay]

fearl stink

[loud kettle]

30%?

[lofty depot]

oh is fine surely

[craggy sonnet]

anyone going higher?

[loud kettle]

35%

[shadow willow]

Is most of the variance from the free spender procs?

[lofty depot]

r2 midnight falls

kinda close

[obtuse robin]

checking, thank u so much!

[craggy sonnet]

if you want to sim one of the metas with color bonus, you need to also tick the "Use Max Colors" checkbox

but if you do not, you likely get better results unticking it

[obtuse robin]

noted

appreciate it, thxs again

[pseudo merlin]

@royal zenith isnt the reveal today

[drifting nova]

pergante?

[pseudo merlin]

no senor

[drifting nova]

oh no that reveal

[pseudo merlin]

via d'esiliu

[drifting nova]

he's not played in 20years

[fair pasture]

Poe2? That's tmr

[pseudo merlin]

fuck

[drifting nova]

poe2 never fully coming out f2p

stuck in alpha

[fair pasture]

Heh they finally got swords maybe

There was a sword in the trailer

[drifting nova]

wdym got swords

[fair pasture]

Also the weekly +1% dmg that is currently at 4%, is that factored into log parses? Like is it subtracted out to make a fair comparison or no?

[fair pasture]

There's no useable swords in poe2

And no sword skills

[drifting nova]

as ..in

oh

not that they exist

they just suck

still regret not getting the big 2h off hillock

[fair pasture]

They literally don't exist

[drifting nova]

but I'm not insane enough to spam run beach

so never got it

[fair pasture]

That's poe1

[drifting nova]

starshatter or w/e it was

ye

[fair pasture]

Ciarans Blade

I forget the full name

Poe2 has no swords at all

Currently

[drifting nova]

oh, oni-goroshi

[fair pasture]

That one yes

[drifting nova]

idk why I thought star

gave it like 20 attempts and thought na I'm goodf

[fair pasture]

Poe2 has Maces, Javelins, Staves

For melee weapons

Might be forgetting one or two but no swords yet

[fair pasture]

Regardless I'm very curious about this

[craggy sonnet]

dont think so

you look at historical parse number

and be happy

or play until end of season

[fair pasture]

What's historical parse number

[drifting nova]

surely damage just goes up

[craggy sonnet]

on your wcl profile

if you look at the fight

it should have a column

[fair pasture]

Oh I haven't looked at mine

[craggy sonnet]

Hist. or something

[fair pasture]

Just on fights from our guild logs true

[fiery kindle]

which talents should i use for 40 second sim

[craggy sonnet]

?

good talents idk

what kinda question is that

[drifting nova]

dont do a 40s sim

[fiery kindle]

we are talking who should get pi for beloren 40 sec windows it between me and ele shamy

[drifting nova]

oh thats easy

not you

chicken doesnt do damage

[craggy sonnet]

are you playing ec?

[drifting nova]

[fiery kindle]

i am discussing it with my raid lead atm

[fiery kindle]

i cant kill crown yet.. i dont know which talents i use on beloren

[craggy sonnet]

?

is that an answer to the question

or unrelated statement

oh

now i understand

well .. idk.

[fiery kindle]

[craggy sonnet]

for ec sim would probably say you are the guy

but

thats not reality

so

if you play a convoke build

probably not worth giving you pi

[fiery kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n5xaBNTRNaJXssU5L6jVsx

[drifting nova]

[fiery kindle]

where can i find that ec build you mentioned?

[lofty depot]

i dont feel like meme-ing the egg sim anymore :/

[craggy sonnet]

weaver convoke, surely not the way?

[fiery kindle]

let me sec

[craggy sonnet]

i dont think you should even bother with pi if you dont run at least incarn

but you probably also fuck up movement if you play incarn

so

idk .. give some good advice @lofty depot

[fair pasture]

Two weeks I'm #1 on egg now yipee

[lofty depot]

play keeper

play convoke

doesnt matter

boss die when u get 2 egg

[craggy sonnet]

there is actually a madlad in top 5 playing ec incarn

[lofty depot]

yea its better wiht pi

[exotic perch]

thats the best build tho clankz

[fair pasture]

For overall or for phase 2

[exotic perch]

you just fuckin spam surge its fantastic

[fair pasture]

Also can you sort fights by just a certain phase

[lofty depot]

both technically

[fair pasture]

Like just seeing who did most on egg

[exotic perch]

yeah at the top of it shows phases

[lofty depot]

well pi + incarn was always better

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5h1ZJprH9WDDKSRfmQJ6Rq

oops

i didnt do ec convoke :/

oi well

[fair pasture]

Like not just for the one pull, for like worldwide

[lofty depot]

AA still better than lunation is curious

[exotic perch]

oh no

cant do that

[lofty depot]

oh nmv

[fair pasture]

Ah kk ty

[lofty depot]

lunation 1.1% ahead

[fiery kindle]

can u share this talent

i need try

[lofty depot]

just go look at mine

although... i played NG and idk if correc

[fair pasture]

Garyëéêéèët

[lofty depot]

oh ahhahaha

the ec one has tres

imagine

[craggy sonnet]

can we just not try to bait raidlead into giving pi to someone because of a sim?

[lofty depot]

what u mena

its good 🙂

[fair pasture]

Is there a limit to how much shit you can macro into a button that's off gcd, my lights potential wasn't using with my macro last night, which also has incarn and berserking and trinket

[lofty depot]

9% good no?

[lofty depot]

have u considered not macroing things

[fair pasture]

Yeah I have

[lofty depot]

no that should work regardless

but consider not doing that

[fair pasture]

Yes dad

[craggy sonnet]

funny macroing makes you lose the buffs on the solar bolts

[fair pasture]

What u mean

Oh because I won't have the potion

[lofty depot]

well its from trinket too

[fair pasture]

If it's like technically a fraction of a second after the bolts fire?

[craggy sonnet]

if you macro, solar bolt wont benefit

[fair pasture]

So I should macro berserking and trinket and potion, and then hit incarn?

[craggy sonnet]

berserking doesnt matter

(its not like its a huge diff in the grand scheme of things either)

[lofty depot]

what if u dont want to pot at a certain time with ur trinket at 530 and rather pot at 7m

[fair pasture]

I have a different macro for that

I have potion and no potion

[lofty depot]

or on lura when ur progging and u want to move pot around for different add ests

or u could just have a different macro for pot

[fair pasture]

I do have a pot button

[lofty depot]

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[fair pasture]

Where the heck is the top of tower target dummy in dornogal

I can't fly there and that place is like a labyrinth

[craggy sonnet]

eh?

[fair pasture]

Apparently there's a target dummy in dornogal that you an actually practice single target on

Without stuff hitting other dummies

And when I google it it just shows the dummies at the gates

Which you can not single out

[dreamy cove]

above the ground one on a pillar

[fiery kindle]

we did it boys

we take pi

[craggy sonnet]

[fiery kindle]

math always win

[craggy sonnet]

clown behavior ngl

[fiery kindle]

na just im kidding he doesnt assign me

[drifting nova]

I can guarantee ele will outdps you