there's no added blast
#balance
obsidian jetty
tis more like I'm waiting 10s to blast, then 2m10s to blast
with no real visual of the blasting
fossil hemlock
u are not the blaster..
At least they changed us last minute to not be a sidekick to the dryad
obsidian jetty
just a surge flyin
jade flume
Man i tried playing around sub 4min kill timer on plexus this week
And a homie was dead for a whole fight and fucked me ggs...
obsidian jetty
💀
fossil hemlock
Classic plexus farm
jade flume
Surely next reset its gonna pay off
jade flume
I might have to actually heal next time tbh
fossil hemlock
When did they fix the 4p working on absorbs btw? I noticed it a week or two ago that it actually worked
obsidian jetty
like 2 days after gamz pinned it
vale pebble
someone will die again
me me
obsidian jetty
maybe 1 day
fossil hemlock
like 2 days after gamz pinned it
Surprisingly fast fix for them tbh
obsidian jetty
so far anytime something has been pinned it get's fixed...
wise hare
Buff Boomy
lilac citrus
what u guys think spec tree is gonna look like something like this if its gonna be keeper or will we take some lower left side option i guess sims willl tell
delicate perch
yep exactly that gg you solved it
vale pebble
Buff Boomy
new meta is that u close discord channel
vale pebble
what u guys think spec tree is gonna look like something like this if its gonna ...
u will take innervation
for ur disc priest consuming 40% mana in 5 globals
obsidian jetty
M+ healers arn't getting innervate from me
vale pebble
i aint a team player
this does not look good on the resume
vale pebble
i am th bus
jade flume
Havent they already removed all the spells, how can u even lose mana
delicate perch
fuck, do i care about healers!
vale pebble
Havent they already removed all the spells, how can u even lose mana
radiance
delicate perch
is what he meant to say..
vale pebble
is apparently like
15% mana
with oracle u press 4 of those
and u lose whole mana bar
with funny piety thing
jade flume
Gg, healers wont be op if they cant heal
jade flume
Blizzard is big brain
round field
Bing chilling
vale pebble
iqnious
wise hare
i recieve pi
vale pebble
do i recruit mage?
lilac citrus
u will take innervation
true but more the dps tree if was leaning too 😛
round field
Idk
vale pebble
his life depends on ur answer
round field
2 mage cant be bad
obsidian jetty
i recieve pi
you give innervate, you get raid spot.
wise hare
do not
vale pebble
2 mage cant be bad
cottler other mage
obsidian jetty
Pi is reserved for warlock
vale pebble
but our boosting
vale pebble
might also depend on this answer
jade flume
what about 3 boomys
+20 world ranks
round field
what about 3 boomys
Chicken said this tier is 3x boomkin tier and i spent it plastered to a bench
So im not sure
wise hare
haha get fucked
vale pebble
yea
wise hare
good
wise hare
hell na i thought u are evoker
wise hare
actually as a rl
jade flume
Mage is basically a bamkin next expac
vale pebble
its the law
wise hare
you have to go bm hunter
vale pebble
you have to go bm hunter
we have 2 bm hunter otps bro
wise hare
but you gain so much brainpower by playing a 2 button spec that does 200% of boomys dmg
vale pebble
yea
thats
just tragic
pres worst spec in the game
at least they patched dream breath
after s1
but s1 dream breath pull ur hair out moment
vale pebble
yea go play 1 full prog of it
i also liked pres first month or so
then u find some outrange boss
and it clicks
jade flume
We are starting to split next week, and i still have never healed nexus king 
I wonder if it will be time
vale pebble
We are starting to split next week, and i still have never healed nexus king <:t...
were u benched nk?
jade flume
Nah i played feral and bamkin on farm
vale pebble
ah
vital hound
Buff Boomy
vital hound
pallid bay
what in the big boobs
vale pebble
https://tenor.com/gYmLoKFJ065.gif
sudden flame
jade flume
Is it still only tettles with alpha
wise hare
We are starting to split next week, and i still have never healed nexus king <:t...
tf you mean splits
wise hare
Is it still only tettles with alpha
no
potent cargo
vale pebble
Is it still only tettles with alpha
that gamz guy
jade flume
tf you mean splits
We were doing 6/8 alt run and 8/8 and now we just try to make two 8/8 runs
It might go horribly ngl
sudden flame
We were doing 6/8 alt run and 8/8 and now we just try to make two 8/8 runs
we cannot reclear dimmy in one night so its over
sudden flame
didn't even get close either some how
jade flume
Diablo 4 kinda goated
pallid bay
jade flume
My shred druid is pumpn
wise hare
play arc raiders in half a month
jade flume
Finally a game where druid is good
vale pebble
play arc raiders in half a month
yea we need
wise hare
very good game
vale pebble
squad for that
pallid bay
Diablo 4 kinda goated
vale pebble
ur coming with me
pallid bay
wrt tried to recruit me to ff..
wise hare
do not
jade flume
Arc raiders would be good if it was free
vale pebble
wrt tried to recruit me to ff..
yea did that work
wise hare
play ff
vale pebble
mister gurt wants to sleet
pallid bay
yea did that work
wise hare
Arc raiders would be good if it was free
my man its basically free
pallid bay
gg 40 bucks too many
jade flume
Poland
vale pebble
o wtf
wise hare
liar
vale pebble
thought everyone is from sweden
wise hare
thought everyone is from sweden
basically
vale pebble
is arc raiders 3man or 4man
vale pebble
i forgot
vale pebble
yea u will like megabonk for a bit @pallid bay
jade flume
is arc raiders 3man or 4man
3 i think
jade flume
3 is perfect squad size for br
wise hare
for what
fossil hemlock
the digimon game is kinda cool
The new persona-like one?
I saw that, looked interesting
jade flume
Barrleroyale
vale pebble
3 is perfect squad size for br
yea imagine if dark and darker wasnt ass rn
bishmallah i would be
in the cage
pallid bay
thought everyone is from sweden
only good players
pallid bay
like cashew
vale pebble
like cashew
k3v1n
wise hare
What's the name? I'm very interested
digimon story time stranger
pallid bay
jade flume
Wasnt arc raiders excavation shooter or was it something else
vale pebble
Wasnt arc raiders excavation shooter or was it something else
dark and darker with robots and guns
jade flume
Ok so its br lets be real
pallid bay
did you see swedish mount
jade flume
Its like tarkov
sudden flame
extraction shooter 
pallid bay
sudden flame
thats a boss
vale pebble
<:borpaSwede:1295052279753216024>
wise hare
just call it a extraction shooter
pallid bay
i will be cruising on that thing
wise hare
not that deep
pallid bay
spamming hate from sweden
wise hare
spamming hate from sweden
ayo?
pallid bay
vale pebble
jade flume
just call it a extraction shooter
4 weeks and nobody will be calling it anything like always with these games...
Gotta wait for new warzone season
vale pebble
iam too old for that cringe shit
round field
is papercups perma
Paper was permad months ago..
vale pebble
Paper was permad months ago..
amazing
delicate perch
🫗
vale pebble
channel saved
sudden flame
good riddance
vital hound
Paper was permad months ago..
round field
i think
he should narrate
the compendium readups
instead of gamz
voice of an angel
vital hound
round field
u know im right
vital hound
no
hollow mist
I think i should narrate the compendium readups
round field
absolutely not
hollow mist
absolutely not
you've never heard me my voice is kinda aura..
round field
i dont believe you
formal crest
it's true
round field
ur not a reliable source
formal crest
I am, do not be bald
pallid bay
I am, do not be bald
no coping in balance please
formal crest
ragequit dg fastest record holder - dsune
jade flume
Werent u green for a bit
formal crest
followed by lakez and csh
hollow mist
followed by lakez and csh
hollow mist
ill be mod one day 4 sure
wise hare
watch your tone peasant
be careful or ill promote you to expert and watch you suffer
formal crest
ill be mod one day 4 sure
the day you become mod is the day phased becomes regular (good luck)
formal crest
be careful or ill promote you to expert and watch you suffer
you should do it
hollow mist
the day you become mod is the day phased becomes regular (good luck)
true
obsidian jetty
you should do it
He'll just leave the server again to remove it
formal crest
then we ban him 
vale pebble
how long did deux mod last
wise hare
tbf as expert you prolly get the most dms
vale pebble
1month?
wise hare
true
wise hare
stroke
delicate perch
bro?
wise hare
vale pebble
its automatic
loud kettle
ping
wise hare
you have no power over me
pallid bay
this is ur last warning
round field
you have no power over me
i will grief you
wise hare
go ahead
green igloo
As a bear I'm not allowed to just bust in there and not be heard lol
round field
Are you lost
jade flume
Btw anyone know, if boss kill timer is around 4:15 or so. Is it better to have 2x 2ca sends and lose convoke and trinket use
Or just do 2ca 1ca 1ca
round field
an extra convoke sounds better no
jade flume
Probably but idk how much stronger 2xca is
Altho who cares i guess, 2 weeks and all single target bosses die in 3:30 anyways
lofty depot
Altho who cares i guess, 2 weeks and all single target bosses die in 3:30 anyway...
Can't remember exact timing. It believe if boss die at 340. 2ca is better have to use potent
Think if it's 4m grove is better.
jade flume
Yeah thats probably true
I held on our plexus and it didnt feel good
But it was also much slower than i expected
lofty depot
Well i simmed exact timings cuz shits cringe
jade flume
Man i hope i start looting the items i need
So i can buy forge for bamkin lmao
Since they will never assign it to me
merry ibex
So I have a question, since dots are no longer the mastery is dotting still going to be a major part of the spec?
delicate perch
doubt
merry ibex
Or can I just star fire star fall if I need aoe
lofty depot
U'll dot things up to a certain target count
merry ibex
I think I just hate dotting and wanted to give balance a try
delicate perch
ya it'll be less but they still do damage and fairly sure the post about them said they'll do more damage
merry ibex
Kk
lofty depot
Won't be a modifier anymore so has to do damage
lofty depot
Well that's a talent so it can be shit
(btw currently flare and moons sims pretty high)
delicate perch
what now
lofty depot
Fight the system
fossil hemlock
ya it'll be *less* but they still do damage and fairly sure the post about them ...
Yeah they wrote in the dev note that since moonfire/sunfire won't be tied to mastery anymore they plan to giga buff them to still make them worthwhile
delicate perch
ya I remember reading something but couldn't remember their wording and didn't wanna gaslight (for once)
jade flume
Dont let that hold u back
fossil hemlock
"Moonfire and Sunfire’s damage will be tuned to keep them as strong, efficient damage dealing spells, but the damage of your other spells will be less conditional."
celest rampart
Since they will never assign it to me
Why not? Who is getting bigger upgrade from it than us
jade flume
Im not bamkin main spec just playing it sometimes on farm
So it would go to dps first
celest rampart
jade flume
I still like it tho and want to make my bamkin stronk
lofty depot
Have they considered its ur bis
merry ibex
After you use 2 Fury/Warrior of Elune, do you hold the 3rd charge to line up with Incrarn?
lofty depot
U generally don't hold fury
Uhh, warrior of elune then depends on timing
Generally every other warrior of elune is out of incarn
45s CD x2 = 90s
Incarn = 100s
lone root
Hey guys. Going to Mythic Nexus King tonight, are there any boomkin key things i should know here that are unusual for us ?
lofty depot
First set of soaks, if u soaks first conq don't spend asp after your first 2 surges in 2nd CA (u run out of time to build)
Before the claws go out, banishment debuffs go out and if get banishment u can't get claw, so u can go across the room
U can save people with cyclone
Dodge Lazers
If ur dying to Lazers, look around better and see it's path
jade flume
They better fix that cyclone thing
One more cyclone cast and im killing the homies myself if they miss spirits
In game ofc
lofty depot
On jah
serene elk
Buff Boomy
what is buff ?
lone root
@lofty depot Thanks mate, also is p2 drake amp phase at a fix timer of the fight or depend of the king's %hp ?
serene elk
ah
lofty depot
It's at roughly 430
round field
<@121360917907767296> Thanks mate, also is p2 drake amp phase at a fix timer of ...
dont worry about reaching p2 if youre just starting
lone root
What a great timer
lofty depot
I mean it is good
lone root
Yeah it is
lofty depot
For a while u hold 2m convoke and CA for platforms for prog
craggy sonnet
you will likely want to cd platforms for a bit .. yea
lofty depot
And as u slowly don't have people die u sent at 2m
lone root
dont worry about reaching p2 if youre just starting
Will be happy if we see a platform tbh
jade flume
<@121360917907767296> Thanks mate, also is p2 drake amp phase at a fix timer of ...
Timer unless u guys have like 30 dpsers and push boss to 20% or w.e it was
But probably until everyone is fully turbo boosted and we have 12% buff it wont be possible
lone root
Yeah sure will not be possible to push him to 20% there rn for us, thanks for the tips, taking notes, what is that cyclone thing to save people u mention earlier ?
fossil hemlock
If they get mindcontrolled, you can cyclone them
If they're cycloned when the 15 second long (or however long it is) debuff falls off, the MC wears off
Or something like that
lone root
Cyclone so the mc end during the cyclone duration prevent targe to die from mc debuffing, got it
lofty depot
Nah u have to cyclone them the whole time or melee cleave them like monkeys
They also can't be on a claw or they'll just die generally
lofty depot
Also it's like a 2s cast
jade flume
Cyclone also has to expire after circle explosion
lofty depot
Also, hunters playing. Black arrow and they just die aswell
jade flume
Or they will go out of mc and get insta 1 shot
lofty depot
Actually just don't tell ur guild about the cyclone thing
Then maybe they won't know
🧠
Tell the rats to dodge Lazers and look at the ghosts
lone root
I'm sure keeping this under my jacket
lofty depot
Also side note..... U can between ticks of Lazer (if u do get hit) health pot and live
U can also live the solo conq if u regrowth, bark, and have ursoc
Think it hits like 24m
lofty depot
Yea can't do that, is just if u miss the first
jade flume
Yeah
lone root
i'll not make the knowledge gain of your sacrifice be vain
Thanks for all the tips, going back to work, have a nice day all
maiden pasture
Nah u have to cyclone them the whole time or melee cleave them like monkeys
bro
i tried to cyclone our rdruid
he got hit with 6m full charge fire breath from our dev
jade flume
Get owned
fossil hemlock
U can also live the solo conq if u regrowth, bark, and have ursoc
So we could also be used as an "immune" soaker to share the solo hit then? In theory at least
lofty depot
Yea don't do that
fossil hemlock
And also only if we miss the first because of the damage amp on the 2nd hit
Yeah the use case here is very limited
delicate perch
Nah u have to cyclone them the whole time or melee cleave them like monkeys
I surge anyone who gets mc'd
fuck em
lofty depot
I'd go Moons and drop a flashlight if the animation wasn't fucked
delicate perch
might just save convoke for next time
clear hare
hi, does anyone knows if ursoc vortex works on mythic araz before the orbs pass the black hole?
jade flume
You can grip and knock them so it should
inner plover
hi, does anyone knows if ursoc vortex works on mythic araz before the orbs pass ...
that was our strategy, vortex or binding shot and using typhoon or evoker knockback to push them in
clear hare
it is possible to just use the vortex to push them in the hole?
inner plover
like for what?
they spawn on top of your players, and if they not step behind on inside Bhole then Vortex do nothing at that case
clear hare
ok that was my question then
jade flume
I mean, you probably can if u place vortex behind but still in range
inner plover
Bhole removes that shield so you can kill them. So you 1. position behind Bholes and using vortex on outer edge of Bhole to keep them for melee or 2. spawning them infront of Bhole, using vortex, then typhoon to remove shield and hold them
craggy sonnet
vortex and then typhoon?
fossil hemlock
I wouldn't vortex typhoon that
craggy sonnet
gotta be trolling
fossil hemlock
I'd just typhoon, let them walk out and have other CC applied to them
lofty depot
If ur doing the front drops, so.eone has to knock them into the black hole. U don't vortex for the "knock", u typhoon
lofty depot
Less damage
craggy sonnet
but yes, technically you should be able to have vortex grip them in but requires pretty good placement by the people dropping orbs and your vortex as well
clear hare
yeah, we were wondering if we can have more things to push orbs to bhole
inner plover
you want to have more uptime on ads thats you do knock mechanic, they need to die fast
lofty depot
More will make them immune
vale pebble
yeah, we were wondering if we can have more things to push orbs to bhole
yea only use typhoon or wing buffet
clear hare
more in the way every round of orbs, not so many druids and evokers on compo
vale pebble
any sets that u dont haev those on put behind hole
u can do it with 2 druids if u want
craggy sonnet
you can also just default to put behind hole
lofty depot
Which set 5 and 9 we always put behind
craggy sonnet
if you do that from the start of prog, should be more consistent honestly
jade flume
you can also just default to put behind hole
On god
clear hare
we are progressing to second phase but our druid heal is not here today so... yeah
thanks for the answers
jade flume
If someone told me to knock 6 sets of adds id probably also not show up
(i probably would for the loots)
craggy sonnet
(for the forge you wouldnt get)
inner plover
Vacation during prog?
man we have also like always 2-3 ppl off... we had like same group for 2 raid max 😄
vale pebble
Which set 5 and 9 we always put behind
u dont need to anymore
clear hare
Vacation during prog?
nah, irl shit
vale pebble
they patched that
lofty depot
u dont need to anymore
Yea ik, we still do it cuz we don't want to fix note
vale pebble
its still fucked
is it now
craggy sonnet
i think so
clear hare
they patched that
whats the fix?
vale pebble
i think ur wrong
lofty depot
There used to be a swirlies spawn with the orb drop
vale pebble
fix is that puddles arent at the same time as the spawns
craggy sonnet
they only "fixed" people getting the same thing
but you still get them overlapping
craggy sonnet
if you monkey melee stands on the spot
vale pebble
just move out its same as prog
craggy sonnet
because monkey
lofty depot
People die if they're stacked on the drop location
craggy sonnet
and then they drop it below boss
vale pebble
there was 1 week of 2 where u had add spawn at the same time as add spawn
on 5 and 9
craggy sonnet
where you wanna spawn adds
eager raft
I’d honestly just recommend that anyone doing that fight now just put all adds behind
lofty depot
It happened til week 3/4 iirc. Cuz we had the issue and we're not Hof gamers
eager raft
consistent n easy
inner plover
btw. does anyone have good video of Alpha Midnight boomkin gameplay? Did not found anything useful.
craggy sonnet
but it is honestly stupid how many wipes you add just by missing knocks or whatever
inner plover
Tettles do be not useful
did he released something? nothing on my feed
lofty depot
His twitch vod
eager raft
but it is honestly stupid how many wipes you add just by missing knocks or whate...
yeah not to mention the comp requirements for being able to knock every set
eager raft
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bRvPAV1fCQMwdJh4?fight=30&type=auras&spells...
Both on same person?
jade flume
I guess silencing tempest and echoing tempest is different spells that do the same thin
jade flume
Both on same person?
Ye its my debuffs
inner plover
His twitch vod
ty, just found out he uploaded YT vid
lofty depot
But no, there's not gonna be like good explanation or much gameplay in alpha.
vale pebble
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bRvPAV1fCQMwdJh4?fight=30&type=auras&spells...
this is u being silenced tho
craggy sonnet
no gameplay tho
vale pebble
so u got hit by a puddle
jade flume
It isnt
eager raft
eager raft
feel like that 2 seconds is kinda plenty tho
inner plover
Do you like Soul Hunters fight? I hate it as boomie idk.. soo much runing around with soaking out of range 😄
eager raft
To finish dropping circles and get in position for adds
eager raft
Do you like Soul Hunters fight? I hate it as boomie idk.. soo much runing around...
Miserable fight
jade flume
Ye i mean, i didnt fuck it up
craggy sonnet
Do you like Soul Hunters fight? I hate it as boomie idk.. soo much runing around...
dont be the soaker
do nothing
lofty depot
Do you like Soul Hunters fight? I hate it as boomie idk.. soo much runing around...
I don't find the problem, think it's fine
inner plover
dont be the soaker
i would like to 😄 but im chicken on duty since we have low amount of ranged
lofty depot
Wildcharge the grip ins when u have ire, roar the other
lofty depot
Idk, people dying is crazy when I have ire
inner plover
Wildcharge the grip ins when u have ire, roar the other
yeah problem is we tank them on edge after 1st jump... and if soak is on other side edge im like 10s out of range
lofty depot
Also, either have ur RL put it on note or put it on your timelones
But press health pot at 353
jade flume
What happens at 3:53
lofty depot
yeah problem is we tank them on edge after 1st jump... and if soak is on other s...
Nah u can sit on the edge of the burn and cast
inner plover
Nah u can sit on the edge of the burn and cast
but they are not in range, thats my point
lofty depot
I'm out of range for all of 3 seconds
And for those 3 seconds 2 of which I press starfall
Also, u could just not soak the far one and get the closer ones 🙂
Get to the closer soak first and make someone else do the far one
eager raft
I'm out of range for all of 3 seconds
you get the first set don’t you
lofty depot
I do
jade flume
They shouldve just made the arena smaller
Having to do such a bitchass job and being rewarded with being out of range
Is just complete cringe
eager raft
yeah first set doesn’t really have to go out of range the same way 2nd set does
At least in the way my guild does it (which I assume is same as anyone else)
Even when I play MM I spend a decent chunk of time out of range
lofty depot
Yes, u can stand on the edge of the pool
inner plover
and soaking takes time
inner plover
Then go to the center of it
until you cast that one starfire you are already out of circle and have to move more idk its just bad, if you have to soak 2 circles at the back you are just cucked
lofty depot
Finish the cast and move
2 circles means someone else isn't helping u
And as stated, soak the close ones
eager raft
until you cast that one starfire you are already out of circle and have to move ...
Just don’t even worry about minmaxing just do the soak and lose whatever uptime you lose
lofty depot
But I've soaked far ones, it's not that big of an issue
Ur talking 1-3 starfires and like I said I casted 2 starfalls while moving then just moved back into range
Made my drop partner come to move
I promise I've done the fight
eager raft
lmfao
jade flume
Gray parser ggs
lofty depot
Yea big
eager raft
he thinks he’s so sick
inner plover
we already doing 3rd intermission with ppl dead 😄 ppl dying left and right to purple cones and shit
eager raft
jade flume
And padder
eager raft
pov every one else that plays your spec stopped playing it
lofty depot
Fuggn cheater
lofty depot
pov every one else that plays your spec stopped playing it
There's plenty of good boomkins still playing it
inner plover
Idk i cant pad ..
jade flume
What the helly
inner plover
also idk how ppl do logs on Plexus.. there is some strategy or kill time ?
jade flume
Rng, kill time, big pampers
lofty depot
Kill time and yea u might change potent and grove
But also u could be playing. Wrong
Who knows
jade flume
What is potent and grove
lofty depot
10s on ca
jade flume
The cdr shit?
eager raft
almost triple the players and I am not good
lofty depot
Well I'm ur not good I can see
spit
Does BM have triple the players?
Feel like that's fake
jade flume
Even if bm has triple the players, bamkins have triple the skill
lofty depot
Its double
eager raft
according to stats page there’s 40k balance vs 115k BM
eager raft
Near triple on nexus king
lofty depot
Loomithar is dou le
jade flume
Damn bamkin kinda pipes
eager raft
Near triple on dimensius
jade flume
Triple if u round up
lofty depot
Blud is making things up
eager raft
that’s why I said near triple
lofty depot
Round up from 2.34
eager raft
What are you even trying to prove
eager raft
Don’t worry I’ll do a boomy reclear after I’m done dimmy to show you who your daddy is
lofty depot
Yea totally
It's ok, next week parses get reset and I'll no longer have r1s and I'll be shit
ionic surge
Round up from 2.34
As the chads do, dont fuck with my man respectable, he's a real G
celest narwhal
jade flume
Getting ilvls on big pieces will be nice tho
Weapon by itself is like 4 items or sth(made up numbers)
Also 3 ilvls on crafted items for essentialy free(runed crest upgrade)
stone ocean
question, do we want to be holding CA now for the Double CA + Convoke Every Time because of 4 set bonus ?
Or is it still best to use CA one Charge everytime after opener
jade flume
You alternate 2ca and 1ca because they line up for 2mins that way
So 2ca - 1ca (around 2mins) - 2 ca (4mins+)
And u just do that as long as fight goes, and for some specific timings there are things you can adjust
If fight is only gonna be like 3:30 then maybe you can just do 2ca-2ca but you have to know the timings ahead of the time
So generally just stick to 2-1-2-1-2
craggy sonnet
So generally just stick to 2-1-2-1-2
That's not possible
Well, ofc you can hold for however long
eager raft
As the chads do, dont fuck with my man respectable, he's a real G
miike youre a real one
jade flume
That's not possible
Yeah tbf i havent done any bosses that lived longer than 2-1-2-1
I assumed it will line up correctly later on but i guess i could see it not work
ionic surge
miike youre a real one
No you
craggy sonnet
Yeah tbf i havent done any bosses that lived longer than 2-1-2-1
yeah, i was somewhat wrong anyways .. its just that the later CAs are more and more delayed if you dont wanna miss a tree use. the 3rd double ca would be ~8:50
but its not relevant anyways in any real encounter
lofty depot
Yeah tbf i havent done any bosses that lived longer than 2-1-2-1
Heroic dimmy week 1 was 2-1-1-2-1
Which is long time
celest rampart
what are people buying from the this vendor, I assume its going to be myth trinkets x 2 if you dont have and probably myth weapon?
craggy sonnet
Heroic dimmy week 1 was 2-1-1-2-1
still doing that week idk where we at now while trying to get nk trinket in our family&friends&twink raid
craggy sonnet
what are people buying from the this vendor, I assume its going to be myth trink...
thats still 2 weeks out at least
stone ocean
So every time convoke comes up I wanna have 2 ca pretty much
celest rampart
thats still 2 weeks out at least
its this reset no?
elder remnant
At 2m u only have 1ca up
Depends on the fight
Aren’t most holding double CA for burn on forge?
craggy sonnet
its this reset no?
No
craggy sonnet
Depends on the fight
That's not at 2min tho.
But yeah, it's all over the place if you look at an actual fight
lofty depot
Depends on the fight
Sure but that's an outlier
ember oxide
@pallid bay
lofty depot
sheeeet ok we have some time then
21st
stone ocean
so on alpha right now do you get both eclipses when you press the new button to enter ?
or is it one button for each
lucid olive
its one button for both
the button changes depending on your previous cast builder
so if you cast a starfire it changes to lunar eclipse
or if you talent into lunar calling it changes into lunar eclipse
stone ocean
@lucid olive So for example if you did the old opener Wrath Wrath pre pull and then you press eclipse it would be Solar correct ?
lofty depot
yes
lucid olive
yeah unless you do Wrath Wrath Starfire
stone ocean
on the GCD right ?
lofty depot
yes
lucid olive
Yes
buoyant ridge
Would getting both eclipses at once even matter really?
lucid olive
Shorter GCD though apparently
fossil hemlock
But apex makes it do a decent hit right
lucid olive
Would getting both eclipses at once even matter really?
Yes it's more damage on your spenders
fossil hemlock
The spellpower in the tooltip looked fairly decently sized
lucid olive
you'd probably still do Wrath-Wrath-Starfire-Treants-CA etc
and then Wrath to spend the instant cast you get from apex talent
then Eclipse after the CA ends
fossil hemlock
Does CA send both types of apex bolt or neither?
buoyant ridge
Hmm
lucid olive
Does CA send both types of apex bolt or neither?
both
fossil hemlock
Nice, I assume it's the same with the 20% proc of both eclipses
lucid olive
the Lunar Bolts also deal splash damage
stone ocean
okay so it plays pretty similar to what it does now for the major part of the spec however its just managing that eclipse to minimize down time as it stands now
lofty depot
Nice, I assume it's the same with the 20% proc of both eclipses
It's each time u enter an eclipse yes
buoyant ridge
Does the dryad still give you 2 empowered starsurge or nah
lucid olive
No
fossil hemlock
And I assume lunar bolt only shoots 1 if you're only fighting 1 target? Or did they actually make it shoot 3 at the same target?
lucid olive
It shoots 3 no matter what
buoyant ridge
Honestly not even mad at that lol
lucid olive
Shoots 3 with 4 dmg events on ST
fossil hemlock
Damn, I'm impressed honestly
lucid olive
but would also be funny if all these 53 dmg events procced lunation lmao
stone ocean
pretty good changes it seems, should allow us to be alot more versatile for adapting to stuff coming up for example say you have 5 seconds left on solar on a boss but have adds in 2 could you star fire and enter lunar instantly by pressing the 2nd charge of eclipse ?
craggy sonnet
and then Wrath to spend the instant cast you get from apex talent
this part seems really bloated on the apex talent, no?
and it also directly clashes with dreamstate for example
fossil hemlock
pretty good changes it seems, should allow us to be alot more versatile for adap...
Correct
lofty depot
That's big dam prob
normal pilot
you should've pressed solar 5s earlier
lucid olive
And I assume lunar bolt only shoots 1 if you're only fighting 1 target? Or did t...
Lunar Bolts and Solar Bolt range is also 40yds not affected by Astral Influence and is aimed to the center of the hitbox, so you can potentially get screwed on fountain boss like Dimensius or Fractillus
stone ocean
well if you have 5s left on solar when you need to aoe
it does but for certain cenarios it would be good
craggy sonnet
Shoots 3 with 4 dmg events on ST
did you try this in a dungeon as well?
fossil hemlock
Lunar Bolts and Solar Bolt range is also 40yds not affected by Astral Influence ...
Eww
When will they learn with these spells
normal pilot
it's a CD, losing uptime on CDs are almost always bad unless they fuck up something royally like with the current set
it's not a free resoruce like eclipse currently is
normal pilot
it's not really like current 'eclipse' at all, they're just gonna fuck with ppl and confuse players by keeping the same name
lucid olive
it's a CD, losing uptime on CDs are almost always bad unless they fuck up someth...
Yeah that's the most negative part I noticed on alpha as well
I don't want to use treants outside of a fresh Eclipse
fossil hemlock
it's not really like current 'eclipse' at all, they're just gonna fuck with ppl ...
For like 2 weeks at most, they've changed eclipse more times than I can count (I can't count very high)
lucid olive
I don't want to press CA while inside an Eclipse
fossil hemlock
And people adapted every time
normal pilot
oh i forgot treants
ya that's gonna be feel bad every single time
ecl gcd, treant gcd
that was so bad in bfa
craggy sonnet
ye, they gotta make ecl do something or remove gcd
normal pilot
gcd gcd gcd finally i can cast my spell
lofty depot
And people adapted every time
Says u, I see people still doing s2 CA timings
fossil hemlock
I will concede if you find me a single player on retail still playing eclipse like it's wod
lucid olive
I will concede if you find me a single player on retail still playing eclipse li...
what if theyre married
fossil hemlock
lofty depot
I will concede if you find me a single player on retail still playing eclipse li...
I've seen it
But that's like 10 years ago so
regal marsh
I didn't see this anywhere so far, the new eclipse button, is it off the GCD?
craggy sonnet
currently its on a shorter gcd
regal marsh
and facepalm
proven swallow
There are different gcds?
lofty depot
I didn't see this anywhere so far, the new eclipse button, is it off the GCD?
@lofty depot
regal marsh
you'd think they'd have learned from how bad shapeshifting to skull bash back in the day was
craggy sonnet
gcd as is just means that it locks out all your other abilities that abide by it
lofty depot
There are different gcds?
There's even internal gcds
craggy sonnet
per default most abilities trigger a gcd thats 1.5s / (1+haste%)
craggy sonnet
but they can change that for specific abilities
and lets say rogue and feral have a default gcd of 1s thats not affected by haste for example
proven swallow
Huh, you truly learn something new every day
normal pilot
there's actually no such thign as 'standard' gcd
every spell needs to have the gcd set individually manually
lot of the bugs in wow are because the game engine is designed to be maintained manually and all the devs that had all the old knowledge about stuff either quit or were fired
dry compass
Honestly surprised they haven't done a complete engine reset
The amount of tech debt and man hours making shit work in an engine that old must be insane
lofty depot
Honestly surprised they haven't done a complete engine reset
Until wow2 comes u ain't getting that
dry compass
I thought wow2 was a possibility to do just that
Now that they're doing all the combat and UI overhauls I'm not so sure
Seems like something you would've done at the same time
royal zenith
why spend money when you can make money
lofty depot
Smite was dead before that
maiden pasture
With a far less complex game they're releasing old dogs on the new engine every month
Yeah but they tried to do smite 2 to save it
And it just proved that you can't do it feasibly without accepting the loss of so much money
maiden pasture
Never worth it
severe hollow
Only thing getting revived is hon
dry compass
Those early moba years were a wild time
I still remember a wildly popular forum post from hon about how important it was to be toxic because otherwise the normies would flood the game, ruin it, and it would die
As if moba players needed encouragement to be toxic
celest rampart
Heroic dimmy week 1 was 2-1-1-2-1
there is a website where you can view where people use their cds isnt there
lofty depot
Lorrgs
celest rampart
ty
dry compass
Did that cd timeline tool ever make it into Dreamgrove?
celest rampart
im sorry, Im sure its been asked before but I cant find it searching, why are we double CA on pull
lucid olive
Did that cd timeline tool ever make it into Dreamgrove?
top right "planner"
finite willow
With ritual forge in M+, do I always just hold Incarn/CA for 2 charges and the trinket?
celest rampart
im sorry, Im sure its been asked before but I cant find it searching, why are we...
is it just to get Dryad on cd?
but then we would use it 19 seconds in, why use it at 11 seconds in
jaunty blaze
what do you use 11 seconds in
the overlapping CA charges are because you get more trinket value and crit value from boat
lofty depot
is it just to get Dryad on cd?
More surges in trees
Trees in ca
Higher int on trinket
And then overlapping the buffed surges in a new ca
Which gives it all of those buffs aswell
celest rampart
the overlapping CA charges are because you get more trinket value and crit value...
sorry im a noob, whats boat
jaunty blaze
balance of all things
lofty depot
Crit at start of eclipse
formal crest
sorry im a noob, whats boat
⛵
celest rampart
⛵
ikr
I think its being dyslexic I always forget these acronym
that or im regarded, who knows
formal crest
that or im regarded, who knows
formal crest
what up mike
jaunty blaze
hi
celest rampart
https://tenor.com/view/say-the-word-adrian-boseman-delroy-lindo-the-good-fight-s...
celest rampart
https://tenor.com/view/say-the-word-adrian-boseman-delroy-lindo-the-good-fight-s...
must be the dyslexia 
glacial kraken
Anyone help me understand survivability in PvP?
I’ve been playing solo shuffle - around 15-1600. I seem to be top damage at the end of every round, mostly get targeted & have to bear form a lot.
Is there much to do if you get targeted or just hope
coral shell
Is it infinite crests starting tommorow or on the 21st?
lofty depot
21st
coral shell
Thank you
serene bolt
<:tettleslul:541422589524836352>
serene bolt
wbizo
drifting nova
lets go, NK down and now chilling on the bench for dimmy
took down an entire country? wowza
craggy sonnet
someone had to
drifting nova
so my kim mug is worth something now?
lofty depot
lets go, NK down and now chilling on the bench for dimmy
Smh
They don't know boomkin slams
craggy sonnet
too bad im missing like 200k worth of upgrades at least
plucky valley
200k? Brother it’s geegee
craggy sonnet
i know
exotic perch
im just chilling on like 200 gilded so same
lofty depot
im just chilling on like 200 gilded so same
Sounds like u got no gear
lofty depot
That doesn't sound like helping at all
It's ok, tettles said "next tier we will be op"... He meant next expansion
obsidian girder
nova ocean
Wow2?
exotic perch
minimal effort maximum reward is what bench is
lofty depot
next saga is what he meant
Riot MMO then
exotic perch
there isnt gonna be a wow2 lol
they will just keep patching the game up
ship of theseus
livid jay
who has a good dimmy pov?
iron chasm
There’s a gamz one and an adept one (I think)
lofty depot
who has a good dimmy pov?
Adept ye
livid jay
ty
livid jay
this guy?
lucid olive
love that guy
barren carbon
Hell yeah I have the boring talent icon one
vital hound
delete paper smh
livid jay
pictures from like january tho 😄
barren carbon
Amazing
vital hound
hasty dove
covert coyote
finally moonkin buffs
craggy sonnet
big moonkin buffs in a world where rdruid is played...
lofty depot
@carmine vigil boomkin is so back
royal zenith
nuh uh
lofty depot
pally tnak fine too
drifting nova
finally moonkin buffs
just in time for cemetery keys
upper anvil
just in time for cemetery keys
perfect time for you to hit 3k before no one playing keys after remix hits
drifting nova
3k? cute
upper anvil
my fault you right, start by doing 12s
drifting nova
going above 10, cute
upper anvil
i need to start getting 3k on my warrior before no one keys anymore
upper anvil
i do it more so its easier for next season to getinto early keys
i joined s2 late and got 3k, that 3k did help me get into keys first week of s3
drifting nova
yeah no one reads that
livid jay
Don't get baited by kekkers bro
upper anvil
Don't get baited by kekkers bro
dw im baiting kekkers
his not as worse as bnox
or whatever his name is
livid jay
Oh haven't seen your name before thought u new
livid jay
Did na wake up
upper anvil
speaking about boxna, where he been
drifting nova
the reward trail ceases to exist post 10s
livid jay
the reward trail ceases to exist post 10s
True
drifting nova
and the sanity keeps going down
upper anvil
Did na wake up
bro its like 3-6 pm for NA
drifting nova
faster and faster
upper anvil
and the sanity keeps going down
sanity dont go down till like after +15
livid jay
Only when I'm at work and bored
upper anvil
ofc who does 2-9s
drifting nova
delete the physical item when
drifting nova
thats what I'm saying, if you dont have rating now
you arent getting into even 6s instantly
same with 10s-12s
there are barely any 11s to actually get rating from
upper anvil
11s waste of time anyways
drifting nova
oh look an hour has gone
upper anvil
do your own key ez pz
upper anvil
depends on time of day imo, 10s been decently fast fill
you wouildve loved the first 2 weeks
you post a key and instant 8 healers and 5 tanks
the moment when 6 resto shamans instantly que
drifting nova
the hardest solution is the breakdown of classes