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I agree with buffing the unused EC talents is good and adding some choice into the incredibly bland gameplay loop it has currently, but I think your understanding of why those talents are bad is wrong
rather stellar flare over moonfire/sunfire ngl
why they do literally the same thing
but are two binds
is a choice
in 2025
if hard cast stellar flare applied moonfire.
or stellar flare got lengthened by starfall.
since stellar flare would then be main casting ability + moon
that would be awesome
it being reduced to sometimes a ST only raid talent
is a disservice to the ability irself
hell, make it a proc
idk anything
tell me why astral communion exists
make orbital summon a full moon instead of stellar flares
or make moon apply moonfire
on primary target
making it 2 targets with twin moons
Yeah please cook less and eat more
Have you tried playing full moon and flare with how the spec is currently
That shit is actually horrid gameplay
You'd probably love to know that those talents are only like a 0.2% loss in raid with keeper of the grove
But nobody playing it cause it's complete nightmare
whats with youre negativity gamz?
its like:
i say something gamz doesnt agree with
gamz- that stuff is horrible and you are wasting time, and its super bad to play, and everything is a nightmare
have you every heard:
"if you dont have anything good to say. dont say anything"?
Yeah I'll call you out on a bad cook when your reasoning is "casting stellar flare and full moon would be awesome"
I also gave a solid reasoning for why further up and pointed out some flaws in the specific talents you wanted to buff to make pressing Full Moon and Flare worth it, but it seems we've moved over to discussing me instead so
just let people cook, instead of just beeing negative
on another note
@drifting nova i think orbital strike is limiting stellar flare viability for potential buffs.
also orbital strike would themathicly fit better with moon, i think.
how i envision a "moon elunes chosen build" would be/ different options for changes, making 2 different elunes chosen builds playable:
moon applies moonfire to primary target (or stellar flare?).
orbital strike summons a full moon at X% effectiveness
current mastery would buff stellar flare.
buff moon astral generation.
make "touch the cosmos" also have a proc if you hard cast stellar flare.
have "crashing star" count towards orbit breaker count. (dont know if it does)
resulting in orbital strike + orbital breaker giving moonfire on 2 targets.
more orbital breaker procs
the extended length of casts, compared to just casting moonfire is a benefit, but also a downside (sort of) with a reduction in power as a counterbalance
it could also be that moons apply stellar flare, but this would then be less along the lines of moon thematic, and it would be a simpler change.
edit: orbital strike could instead be CDR when hard casting stellar flare, but thats a different cook
no
Balance full moon druid rotation:
Moonfire until grouped
Sunfire
Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
Warrior of Elune
2-3x Starfire
2x Starfall
Full Moon
Full Moon
2x Starfall
Starfall > Stellar Flare
Pull ending:
New Moon
Half Moon
Stellar Flare being part of our mastery and Full Moon being a rotational spell would be such a detriment to the spec and make it even more of a dumpster fire in raid than it currently is
But saying that is being negative
Let's add a 1+ second cast to our already too long ramp time so we do even less damage to adds
Moons applying Moonfire would also make Moons not benefit from Moonfire part of our mastery just based on how the devs code this shit
i said stellar flare benefits from both moonfire and sunfire bonus dmg, because it is a astal spell
Like Fluid Form changing you into Moonkin, but the casts not benefitting from Moonkin Form aura
less % of overall dmg comming from wrath and starfire = less downside to fluidform
Yeah let's take what I said and completely disregard the point

i dont quite get the "moons applying moonfire negates benefits from mastery" parts @lucid olive
If you want Blizzard to hear your feedback, go post on the forums feedback posts
Because it would apply Moonfire after the Moon dmg event
"just based on how the devs code this shit"
Meaning the Moon dmg event wouldn't benefit because Moonfire would not currently be active on the target
ahh okey, then moons applying stellar flare would probably be a better cook
Sure but then Flare would never be a pressed ability
And it would be a passive interaction that didn't actually change anything
Stellar flare applies all dots
moons only apply it to primary target
Did you play vault of the incarnates
not as boomkin
Yeah it shows
thats negative
Applying Stellar Flare on AOE is a horror show of a rotation
Don't tell @ionic surge that
But if you want to cook a way for it to do that again they should make Flare proc Shooting Stars again
Cause that was what made it not dogshit
a different cook, is to change boundless midnight and the ethernal moon to apply stellar flare instead of summoning minor moons
pressing flare every 15s to 4 diff targets in council was some next level horror
Idk why you want everything to apply Flare
Yes so why apply it passively
wrong + no bitches
thank you for letting me know such slander was happening
Its terrible and you should feel bad
im cooking to make stellar flare and moon more qol.
if its "shit show" to hard cast stellar flare in aoe, best way to fix that is stellar flare procs
Just wanted to publicly slander you mike
But the procs wouldn't solve anything rotationally? I thought your goal was to rely less on pressing Starfire and Starfall and FoE all the time
But then what does that change gameplay wise?
Yeah idk
its actually based
just another proc to activate waning
people who think otherwise are starfire pilled 0 thought aoe rotation andys
+1
let my rotation be 2 buttons
only sune and I have the vision

Two people can have terrible opinions
the reason flare sucked for people is cause they didnt understand the usage and applied it to 10 targets at the start of each pack
stellar flare procs = less stellar flare casts, but higher target count would still need the casts.
depending on cook, stellar flare could reduce cooldown foincarn.
stellar flare could get a higher resource generation for more starfalls
stellar flare could have a higher proc chance for mushrooms
hardcasting mushrooms could be doable in between stellar flare casts
Legit asmr
Pressing my funny little shrooms
applying Flares while waning was still up
spending my funny little 2pc
Cinema spec...
sure but there's a spectrum right
10.0 > 4.3
Bring back Pulsar
not everything is the same amount of bad

Everyone has their own ideas and preferences as to how the spec should be played
That is why recommending class design should be left to people with thick skin
Yes but only my idea and preference is correct
Was it BFA empowerments that made wrath splash?
Yes
Idr which version did that
having different options be viable help with that.... but blizzard cant do that balancing
yea and @teal sphinx is on it
oh yeah then also set bonuses limits creativity aswell.
current set bonus makes you play starfire
yeah, but hero tree is a numbers thing... mostly
but both contributes
there was larger creativity when there was no hero talent tree
starfire has been our base aoe dps ability since forever? whats ur point?
limiting variety
i mean sure, but eveyr spec in this game has been working like thsi for atleast 4 expansions
hero talents limit it even more
but isnt it cool that u have 1 hero talent for m+ and other for single target? some specs doesnt even have that
also i kinda like when starfire hits hard
i dont mind spamming it if it does good dmg
true, that difference in ST and AoE has grown
every season u will have a new tier set which focuses on different spells
But this just comes down to Blizzards design philosophy
aslong as they just decide Starfire = AoE
it will stay like this forever
ye thats my point here, blizzard has had this logic u have main aoe ability and main st ability
and it has been like this looong time
that dot build was not thought through properly
dots have lost meaning in this game long time ago
instead of trying to fix it
Kinda proving my point here
They simply do not like it
compared to the other builds in the tree that are tried and tested and thoroughly thought out before making it to live
like if you think of the set bonuses we have had the last 3 seasons....
how much have talent allocation changed? (not counting the addition of passive mushrooms=
from the tier sets alone its just been whether you play flare on ST or not
I mean, this season it's changed more than others
How do we sim for dungeons when dungeon slice doesnt work?
But it's not a tier set thing, it's a half our talents are dogshit thing
read FAQ in Compendium
can i farm runed faster in delves or keys
Depends how fast u are
well in delves i solo tank and i usually just pull whole rooms and kite them to others
its decently fast i guess
So as long as ur faster than doing a dungeon yes
fair enough
I was correct on this
with Stellar Command over Lunar Calling it's still better to just enter Lunar
probably because of the tier set I guess
You still have Lunation
yeah I was just checking purely for SC
with the tier sets disabled it's worse to enter lunar even with lunation
not particularly close either
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aKbcUXmRrUVTUQhNWPLYyW
Is this acceptable for right now? I haven't gone higher than clearing normal raid and doing a +4.
I did get a heroic belt that I plan on upgrading and replacing the DISC with
I'm not sure what stats I should try and fix, I have mostly haste and mastery with a bit of crit
@stiff bolt https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pu5CvTr4bzEte9ua4jw6hP this is a sim overriding Stellar Command to be a 300% dmg buff to Full Moon instead of 25% and its only 0.3% better than current ST build 
I had to increase to 300% before it broke even
yeah, spec is so imbalanced that its not even worth mentioning new moon/ half moon/ full moon in hero tree
Well when moons was even marginally better people complained
Ur doing not hard content so minmaxing stat prio largely doesn't matter.
Getting higher ilvl gear will matter more
does 3k io or aotc matter more for trying to get into mythic pugs
Neither
Fairs
Doesnt hurt to have tho ig
moons should be a rotation changer, not just a dps cooldown
shadowlands (it wasnt good it was just better than this)
where above a certain mob count u didnt dot and just spammed starfire

I know. But my goal is to go higher
ooo i like this cook
except for surge does more damage than full moon
the free surge when casting starfall could combo nicely there
well yes we'll also need to buff full moon by some massive %
look man just bring back pulsar or something idk 
bringing it back as we speak
may be a really dumb question but from the keystone guru site where to you put in the output for the sims on raidbots
Is it better to go 0 haste then to go mastery haste atm? For singeltarget.
for keeper yeah probably
does it work with sims, cuz when I sim it says no
In my experience having 6/8 and 3.2k is more attractive than 8/8 and 3k.
lol
Oddly specific
Hey there. Havent played since the early phases of Dragonflight. How is our laser owl doing?
Does it still play like in DF?
With pulsar being removed, no
They removed pulsar?
Listen to cotti hes a wise man
What was celestial alignment again
the thing pulsar gave you
Every balance druid player is wise
The less active abilities i can forget to use the better
Who?

I dont wanna be mean
I never really interacted with any WoW community beyond the occasional guild
fucking shadow priest
The guy just reacted to ur question xd
Oh
@pallid bay 
dont be
I think thats illegal without consent..
I still remember the boomkin back in Bfa, which was so horrible it made me change to elemental shaman back during the Aszhara raid in Nazjatar
I really like what they have done with it
Great to hear 
Did they add any customisation to the Zandalari Boomkin form?
The wide ones with all the customisation?
yes
great gif! Thanks for sharing! I’ve added it to my favourites!
Ty
bfa was goated
back when balance wasnt bottom 5 consistently
The Araz 6/6 heroic did beat my 723 Lily
Araz is op
and so you apply the same logic to every raid trinket
Only for ST not AoE.
hmm
Lily stinks for moonkin
Because the value of stats are very different in aoe and st
In EC you want hast mast mostly
In kotg you want very little haste
Also the kotg apl doesn't really optimise 1.5m trinkets like lily all that well supposedly
With lily you might be better off popping it before the first dryad surges so it covers both
But it doesn't matter because araz is just way better
I'm using Araz 704 over Lily 723 in Raid because it's simming better
nice
what is even the question i dont get it
Congrats you made the right choice
Don't really understand your point
earlier the question was about antenna. and if my sim was a bait or nah
its not
if you dont trust the sim why do you even sim
Araz is way better than other on use trinkets so that the drop in ilevel is worth it. Antenna is not
There's your answer
Araz gives primary stat
your 4pc scales heavily on primary stat
Lily gives secondary stat
your 4pc doesn't scale with secondary stat
Tell that to me praying for crits
Just Crit
What can I do if I get chosen for the electricity circle mechanic four fucking times in floodgate 15?
I purposely dont defensive the party wide damage phase so I can bark if I get chosen
I bark 1st one, renewal + health pot second one, had to use frenzy regen during the aoe phase, third one got a healer defensive, fourth one i bark and its not enough and just fucking die, got ressed, die during aoe phase again even tho bear frenzy regen
I dont think its a healer issue either, happened before with other healers
I just...run out of shit
Even during swampface sometimes I just fucking rot to death with everything used
This is the one fucking thing ive hated about boomie since they nerfed our offhealing after shadowlands
On the last boss?
Yeah and to some extent swampface
Doesn't that mechanic always alternate so you can't get it back to back
I've definitely gotten it back to back
Yeah I think that's what happened
There's 2 sets of circles every phase and if you don't get the 1st you'll always get the 2nd
And then it resets after the intermission AoE phase
but also just Barkskin the first one and then ask for external/bear form the 2nd one if you don't have Barkskin up again
go bear as it explodes and stand in bear with frenzied during the dot
Or stay in bear and let frenzy regen fully go off?
can also go bear for initial hit and then renewal during the dot
watch your well-honed instincts debuff too
Dunno, maybe Frenzy First in your rotation, since it only has 20 sec CD? I'm not doing 15s yet so might talk outta my a**, but I usually rotate my CDs like Frenzy/Bark/Frenzy/Renew/Frenzy/maybe Bark again etc.
That's why I also like to play extra health in Bear too so my lifepool itself and Frenzy in it is somewhat a CD itself.
Not a pro Boomer though.
frenzy needs you to stay bear for 4sec
terrible
i'd only use it as a last resort
I mean, he asks what else he can do to survive so if that's his last resort, might be an idea. But yeah, I totally get your point.
no ofc you should definitely use it when you need it, but i would never use it as my 1st option when bark is available
Okay, I see. Ye, guess getting the circle that often is just unlucky then I guess...
I don't have a pre-made group either and don't trust much random healers tbh, so that's why I take Frenzy that often sometimes xP
But ye, if timer is short, I rethink to improve my dps uptime too.
you'll get a circle once every phase, no other way around, never more never less
bark should always be up for it
unless bad combo like you got last circle set and then first circle set next phase, then bear regen cry
Should likely have health pot aswell
Just gotta use the things u have. Assume you're not
yeah, i guess people overspend CDs on the aoe dmg during the intermission
but the healer should carry that part
Suppose
how do we sim M+ / AoE? light movement 5 targets?
read FAQ in Compendium
any druid can teach me a bit? :C
Start by reading the compendium in the header and then ask any questions
just want to clarify: for our KotG double CA combo, if we have max AP going into it, do we 1. treant-CA-surge-surge-convoke-CA or do we 2. treant-CA-surge-surge-surge(so AP is below 40)-convoke-CA ?
not sure if there's some boat shenanigans to justify in option 1, or just follow the prio list in option 2.
you can 3x surge if you have lust if not only 2
in which case you messed up by going in with full ap
is that for boat reasons, or just to ensure treant is still up for the 2 empowered surges?
treant nobody cares about boat
boat/CA are just things that are nice to have but not important as treants
nice nice, cheers!
so idk why, but when i sim myself, Its marginal but Signet of the priory and azhiccaran parapodia sim higher then astral antenna and azhiccaran parapodia.
is that with miss chance
folks question about the tier set starsurges. Does Harmony of the Grove increase damage even if already at the cap for the max dmg from the 4set?
huh
has nothing to do with the cap
So what I meant was, if without trees it would cap at dealing say 12k damage, would the trees increase the dmg on top of that cap? Or would using trees just help it reach the cap
the treant buff is applied after yes
ok, ty
What's easier to play Balance or Feral? and how much did that one buff help balance?
oh man balance definitely easier bud
they're both not overly difficult
one is melee and one is a ranged that you want to have good uptime on
I rarely get to dps, i usually tank or heal, but I figure if I dps I find a easy one because i like easy
bamker easier
miss chance? first time ive had the antenna to sim
use trinket > no use trinket
its only close because antenna is giga strong
Hi one question, when is the best time to reapply the dots of moonfire, sunfire and stellar flare?
when theyre in pandemic
which is when they glow around the last 5-6s
is anyone taking illinois?
need to know why
Is there a downside to crafting a third piece if you arent mythic raiding? With turbo boost only bumping hero pieces to 716 it would still be higher ilvl to have a 720 starlight craft
question about the EC m+ build and raid build if i may. is the change using starsurge over starfall just to help with prio damage while still giving out targeted aoe.?
@lofty depot signetti is a better coach than beilma but I think Illinois has the better players they will cover
Theyre increasing crafted item ilvl too
But no crafting has never been bad if you dont have mythic track options
That is why the system is there
Fair enough
I always found that so odd, people hating crafting slots while wearing hero track with worse stats 
What yall sim for dungeon if not dungeon slice?
I appreciate it! Sorry if asking that was annoying, new to the discord.
No problem, asking questions is never annoying
Ty
Lol, betting discord afk. They're all eating dinner
(I like Indiana at home, was curious tho)
They had a lot of talent leave in the portal if you want a good late night bet take Wyoming +11.5 and the under
I'm on the under already
I generally eat on the early games.
Michigan -105, over 23.5 team total, Oklahoma -6.5
what if its arctic asking
soccer?
No...
sitting here watching the miami game rn
phew..
Who’d you take in Florida miami
Lagway may be a bigger bust than manning it’s crazy
lagway on his way to being tua turntheballova
few more sacks and his noodle is cooked
With how he’s playing he won’t get drafted
ye 0 chance
OU put 9 sacks on the auburn qb today as well
dudes gonna be terrified of being in the pocket for the rest of his life
Michigan sacked raiola 7 times and won by 3
rams are gonna need to draft a qb next season
bets were on arch manning
after seeing him play thank fuck its not
Lol, who they gonna take
Trade to get shadeur sanders 
is this american football ?
the band?
Yes
good band
Its really wild that they have access to the fancy channel that colored names use to chat sportsball and they do it in balance anyway

was in a reddit thread about tennesse's kicker getting his foot stomped on
found out florida's last qb had 5 felony pedo charges against him
college fuckin football baby
florida man would never
Better of trading for gabriel
I needed more opinions duh
is AF more of a sport or of a show ?
College more of a sport cuz most of the kids aren't giga rich
NFL feels more like a show
yeah I watch way more college fb than nfl
I feel more connected to my school team than my geographic nfl team
would anyone mind looking at my logs on forgeweaver to see if im messing up something super bad? we kept wiping before the damage amp so im assuming thats where alot of the final overall dps comes from
I don't like watching nba
Stars sit out like 40% of the season
Shits cringe
the cringest thing is rules not being enforced
it's a shitshow
Watching football at bar so u only get opener comment
Trees before CA not during
ok ty!
college football is always absolutely wild and if you're a sicko its great
but y? is bad no?
- dont send 3 surges before voke when you dont have lust, only 2
why not?
trees will fade before you send your buffed surges
ohhh i see i see tyvm!
feel like cfb you get crazier games, huge scorelines, big score swings and ppl really try fkn hard
shouldnt that be yknow..the nfl?
I love the NFL too, but with college football I get to watch two days straight of football and like 5* as many games to watch compared to NFL which is compressed
actually watching the game obviously NFL is more professional and that is both good and bad
EAST CAROLINA PIRATES WILL WIN
My Brisbane Lions in Grand Final of Aussie Rules, as u yanks say... LET'S EFFING GO!!!
Cats will flog em
Yeah, but hey "}
Watch them win
@lofty depot I may have been wrong about Indiana
@lofty depot cheers
Hi
i love colorado but they are cooked this season man
I specifically hate Colorado and welcome them being cooked
who'd of thought not having 4 nfl wide receivers to throw to would be bad for the season
that + qb issues now
its so ogre
Miami trash ig
wait m+ score was rebalanced sometime this week?
Yes
huge
i no longer need to do a ton of 14s
i just slammed a 13 for a weekly vault and game was like "nice youre now 100 io higher than you were 3 days ago"
okay now that haste is not my main secondary stat prioryis useful 

is this only for pull or always ?

when u have 2 ca's yes
1 ca u ca surge surge trees

so.. this seems like a stupid question more so after i have ran a sim, but when would you change over and use the voidglass kris over a crafted 2h?
when u get the mythic one
that is what i figured too, got the hero kris out of the weekly box reward just sad i wont be using it haha
another question with crafted gear, if i want to recraft the item stats will i need to use another spark?
i had a weird pull in dawnbreaker on the second pull (lust pull on ship) where it looked like some of the rp npcs randomly entered combat with us, 2 nightbolts landed and killed me then healer after I rezzed and reentered combat. i've also had pulls before where no nightbolts go through but still ppl will get randomly globaled. is it possible somehow starfall is generating aggro (starfall i thought doesn't hit anything we're not in direct combat with and additionally it doesn't hit anything that's cc'ed). anyone else experience similar situation?
no, the spark stays jsut need new missive
iirc starfall doesnt hit those mobs
but "directly incombat with" is incorrect. There are RP mobs that come up that starfall does hit
its possible someone hit an aoe or dots?
I’ve seen moonfire go on them, not sure if it’ll cleave or I mouseovered on accident
yea if u dot them, ur then in combat with them
its the tier set proc splitting to them
hey, i'm goiung to get my 2h crafted, should i do crit mastery or haste mastery?
sim it
if u plan on doing high keys or something of that nature, u can use haste but its not preferred in raid
yeah i'm more of a m+ player, and haste sims a bit better than crit
then yea
holy fuck what
it's very weird that's why i think it's a bug. we watched the caster that we didn't engage and it's not "in combat" with us. it's casting at its rp partner, and then every so often it targets someone in the party
if it overlaps with one of the casts or a circle already going off you just poof
Looking over the compendium what is the difference in the mythic plus build and the EC single target build.?
Probably stellar amp, goldrinn, nature's balance
So sounds like starsurge is used alot more with that build does it set a higher prio damage with targeted aoe
if i want to do blitz bgs, is murloc io a good site to look at for pvp talent builds?
am I dumb and dont know what the weekly loot buff does or
But 2 out 3 are now in my m+ build 😮
Best to ask in #pvp but I believe murloc io is a popular site
yes its fine
he chose to enter a keystone
Everyone is also just doing half the damage theyre supposed to
100% on him
dude had to drain life as the tankiest class in the game

what can ya do
why are you playing fake fellowship when real fellowship is is out for the next few days
idk what u talking about
fellowship
idk what is that
google idk
im not playing that shit
but probably will be a lot better than playing wow
felloship chill game
from 12 key to 9
2 char stucked
Idk sometimes it's unlucky
no is not
2/2 10s keys failed with 3200 rating tank
which means 100%
that is not unlucky
Just gotta do more dam
yey e
I mean thats a 2 key sample bro
100% chance gg its over
why didn't blizzard make the EC 4set, not tick out of combat? you just lose the stacks while waiting for packs to roam etc..
i mean in +17 keys and above this is a big deal
ask them maybe you find out
keystones are a minigame why would they care
shit
Ye in 16s its whatever
Only Max Colors is enabled but you may not have enough gem colors chosen.
what this shit means?
is this ok
fuk sim
how about in 18s
Blizzard small indie company
That and they don't like boomies
almost depleted a 2 earlier 
How does one deplete a 2
💀
no one interrupting poison volley
I'm healing out my mind

know the first pull down stairs
straight to miniboss
yeah tank only did to the middle of stairs

I'm on my 5th alt
or friends idk, get carried in 10s like a normal person !
616 gloves/legs on paladin
couldnt find a m0 for quest so thought oh theres a 2
20 mythic dungs going to take me years at this rate
You need to select a gem for your cloak bruv
Also the gems you have selected are stupid
Just useless Iteration bloat
ur friends privilege is showing varu 
Hello, everyone! I started playing as a balance druid and encountered a problem where using the Starfall ability causes a ‘star-like glow’ to appear across the entire screen, which is very distracting and reduces the frame rate by approximately 5 to 20 frames per second, depending on how often the ability is used. Is there an add-on, script, or WA that removes this glow effect? I've lowered the Texture Resolution in game settings on purpose to better illustrate what I mean
try dropping particle density
Click « replace existing gems » above
It only helps if you turn it off completely, which is not what I want.
You gotta be ragebaiting
And stop with the stupid single color gems
They are just less stats
Select the X/mast and X/haste variants
If you are simming for m+
i did
but cant sim all of them
vers/haste only cant sim vers/mastery
why it says to buy crit gem
i have a lot more crit compared to other druids
did hoa get fixed for weekly?
yes it is unfortunately, small sample size. In any event, seems like it's a 'lost the key in the creation lobby' situation, you inv'd a demo when you're boomie to priory and the shaman had 90k dps, like it's legitimately a lottery system because anybody can have a bad day but I have a sneaking suspicion that the track records will indicate the 3200 rated tanks are a safer bet than the other people you inv'd lol
3200 tanks are not safer
20+ keys with lower tanks all timmed
smaller pulls but timmed
idc if he pulls 200 mobs when we not timming the key
tfw abanoned a 2
as the ego 3k tank alt got mad he cant path

like brother it's a 2 and I just want weekly
thats it
Maths aint mathing here
considering I'm looking at the mains keys depleted a 10 then did a 12
tank rating is fake

ok
That means more combinations
I cant sim
We need to stop interacting with this guy 😭
just dont sim gems
slap whatever meta gem you like
take one of each color that has mastery
Ok
And lose the entertainment? I think not
When I'm trying to sim for M+ gear should I still be using patchwerk?
Also I've noticed a difference in what wowhead says about BIS trinkets vs what is ranked on bloodmallet. Is one more right than the other or does it all boil down to sims?
bis lists are pretty useless
always sim
check faq in compendium for recommendation on how to sim for m+
got it...thanks
both resources are not very good
but bloodmallet is doubley bad
ur gonna summon him again
if this is entertainment to you go start arugments in lfr or something
But your him and you are here
Try to argue that a pull timer is useless on Dimmy and that people should just take the portal when the vibe is right
ive never been in lfr

Been saying that since day 1
ucurum
wrong
Kekkers and boxna should both get their own role, thoughts?
girl why tf u have so much hate on me
I think you're a strange individual posting random shit like complaining about not getting a drop at the end of a dungeon or random warlock overall DPS
You're not wrong in all regards 
well blizzard scammed me in my dungeon I just ran so
it's valid
I'll allow it
event gives you an extra item
got nothing

Whatever happened to that cd timeline visualizer thing vinter was making
@jolly delta
It exists
Oh perfect thanks goat
literally on the homepage
everyone see what they want lmao i never said anything about warlock dps. every girl is same
why are we sexist now
Hi guys I'm a girl :3
check dm's
I was looking on my phone and didn’t see it but I do now sorry sir please forgive me
Hi a girl im --- -- -

I got put in On Mythic Salad Bar
SO ive unsubscribed from the game
was fun guys 😄 (It wasnt, shit tier to be Boomie)
hes a feral so i doubt it

smh
👍
yeah inside info cause hes literally dsune
What miss chance should we use to sim Antenna?
depends what fight ur wanting to simulate
20% on raid, 30-35% on nexus king / dimmy, 5-10% on MDT
Ok thx 🙂
@maiden pasture your favorite person and enterntainment told me he doesnt use health pots or tempered potions, questions why his dying in priory on a 10 and blaming healer for his deaths 🤣
not when youre floor poving 4 times each fight or multiple pulls in the same key 💀
how often are you forced into bear in a 10 priory in 1 fight
if im dying to healing im probably leaving honestly
10s are not easy
its a 10, heal my character
what if you heal me bb
why are u weird
but im not weird
im just bored and tired of doing this thingy and need the distraction
sounds weird
Can’t be forced into that while playing fellowship
whens beta close
wed 3am kangaroo time
Does anyone think a 5 min, 5 target sim could give me any useful insight into mythic plus gearing
Or is it just too unrealistic to provide anything useful?
its not useful no
did you game on it yet

surely its just chinaslop
i spent my weekend playing BL4 using a borrowed steam account and that was fkn miserable such a shit game
nobody making good games anymore
it's not too bad for what it is, m+ without the outside m+ grind, just power gained from io basically
The game runs at 30fps? Just 4x frame gen bro
ya I was excited for BL4, seen the first day shit and was like nvm
wait for it to go on 80% sale in 5 months
The seven sea version might remove Denuvo and increase performance as has been the case in some games
I paused bl4 to go cook food
came back
crashed
rinse repeat every time I get up to do chores lmao
got this shit running a computer that could send a warship to mars just off the compute
whats sad to me is that some of the horseshit that comes out from blizzard is so bad that AI couldn't even be responsible
I played it expecting it to have slight difference from wow
And then it’s just a full wow rip off character wise
I dont think I could play just an m+ game, or just a raid game, or just a pvp game
ya they took some extreme creative liberties with it 
think wow's benefit is it's got a bunch of everything
like FF barely holds attention since there's no real content outside of raiding
it'd only be a seasonal game at best though, log in at season start, smash some content log off till next season
Quick question. If I kill first boss and 3rd boss in mythic, can I get loot in the vault from Loom?
yes
Bl4 goated
I'm like close to 100% on it
It is fun for what it's worth
just the constant crashes are fkn annoying
although I"m only 45 mins in or so atm
ive never crashed once....
What is the recommended hero talent tree for raiding (single target) in season 3? Icy Veins and wowhead are giving me conflicting information
keeper
ive crashed once in 100 hours of gameplay

well
94hrs to be exact
im seeing people complain with their i9-14700k and 5090s
I'm on a 9800x3d so not specific ryzen
Thank you!
are you guys having to bear alarming trill from first boss of arakara at 15 keys if you don't have barkskin?
i kinda die if i don't but then i end up with tank damage on the boss overall
Just save bark for each
healer will cd each of them too
the timer should sync right
only thing u will need to figure out how to survive is the gosammer but that can just be renewal or frenzied + bear
4080 super 9800x3d
150fps no frame gen
zero crashes....
are they all 1 min apart?
this is a good thought though
i kinda lose uptime here even with stocking full ap bar
that will give me 2 gcds
no
like 40s maybe
you should not need a cd for the gossamer at that level
unless the healer failed to prep


im boutta buy a 9070xt
healer diff
or ur not tracking ur healer cds properly
if ur overlapping defensives with healer cds thats ur fault
in a 15 u can realistically unbind barkskin
Blud thinks I'm tracking healer cds
thats not how healer cds work
you dont need to worry about mine
i see you not having bark and thats when it's my problem
sorry i randomly clicked into balance
Nono, this is good
I am here to help whenever
generally that is what i aim to do
ye is tru
hii
big if true
Good, there's too many moonkin players in here
We need the variety
keen
nfl is cringe
I don’t know. I think it’s quite a balanced channel.
does anyone know what's wrong with this guys?
im curious too and im more about the effect than stats atm just for fun
Only reason I track healer cds is to yell slurs at them in keys after they let us die from rot, we are not the same
that is a key you can gain from the delve, hope I could be helpful
It wasn't, you don't get the key from the delve
They patched it a few days in and it’s been way better. My frames tripled after that patch
Do you guys think boomkin will change in midnight?
i think they'll delete it
Hey!
Haven't any1 simmed 7th boss healer trinket activating on every cds?
That trinket is bis
If you regrowth the buff
It’s just cringe so we pretend it doesn’t exist
whats the CD?
that sounds so cringe
Press regrowth on glowing party frame
In keys do i wanna dot stuff up before going into eclipse?
yes, follow the prio in the compendium
Do we re moonfire the adds on nexus king (m) platforms after the ones from trees expire? Not too sure if its worth without double Moonfire talent
To add context, yes they would live for another 10-12 seconds approx
Go with the vibe you do piss dmg there either way
Personally i cba reapplying moonfire
Except on the titan
Same yea im just vibing, sadly i kinda have to optimize dmg because our group struggles to kill platforms intime 😂 otherwise im chilling hard on this fight
Our warlocks renamed in details to ‚nerf boomkins‘ 😂
I make up the bad add dmg in dmg amp anyways
Thats the only thing you can do
you ping me for a month old message? 😧
I did. But the issue is that you can precombat cheese with it and then equip another trinket and that is just so much better than anything it could do while actually equipped
Tanks do tripple of my dmg there
I think dks are at like 10x ggs
Unforch
Its fine though, dmg amp is bamkin time to shine
dont need to do more than frost dks, just gotta do more than other bamkins 😉
The most important 30s
Why do you have more than one
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a1w9CfzbZrt7pHKT?type=damage-done&target=114&fight=16
Is this actually our life for titan damage on nexusking or should i not be starfire starfall and starsurge instead?
you can do more on titan just starfalling and starfiring for sure
58 mill seems on the lower end
Just starsurge if you need toitan dmg
But if u dont then starfall theres no hurry as long as u meet dps check
You generally dont wanna kill it too fast anyways
F indeed
Why not?
Searching the staff and don't find much results anywhere
because generally if you kill a prio target too fast, it means you wasted some potential damage on the other smaller adds
if you sstill got time ofc
yea i was just starfalling but we sometimes have issues and sometimes not if all are alive
Ok nvm then, i thought it pushes always x time after platforms die

Yeah that would make sense
but i swear besided no moonfire on that titan that is just what it is no?
But I'm glad it doesn't, nobody likes holding dps
like im not doing anything mega different than i should
i prefer doing 2 or 3 single moonfire when we enter platforms, including titan, this way you can make sure everything is moonfired when you pop trees
Making shit up..

I mean you can choose to cd the platform right
But you don't cause your damage is more valuable in the amp
Just out of curiosity, did you sim it with NKC equipped the whole fight? Because to me it just seems like a consistent option vs. something like voidcore that you can just get unlucky and not get a proc for your burst window
yea ofc
we dont even have a dh for prog this week

I did. Might have been not optimized to the max, but good enough to get the grasp that using it precombat and then swapping is better
How does the buff work anyway? Do they just stay up when you start a boss fight or do they get cleared?
Not the int buff itself, but the mark
The marks do get cleared on encounter start
So you'd have to pre-cast either way
But you can consume two of them precombat for ~15s of the buff
And then swap trinkets
dont starfall
ignore small adds, wrath and surge titan
gg
@maiden pasture this the tech for higher overall aswell?
i dont know and dont care about higher overall, play for prog on prog. You're also just playing ST talents anyway so its probs not even that much of a gain to starfall
so ethical
I hope it was something sauce based

i hope it was soup and u have to clean it all up
Nah it was just shicken
chicken has been on the ground before in its lifetime, so its fine
That applies to 90% of things we eat
Doesn't invalidate the statement
True
Best talents for lowkeys ?
click into your specs and go guardian for low keys kekw
What about a banana
Just vibe with ec
Are bananas more than 10% of the foods you consume ?
Yes I had one earlier
When are you getting good at the game Kekkers, it's been 54 years
Actual square shape circle hole players
That made me chuckle at work
To think I was going to be a kazzakian not too long ago
Would probably some many illegal things to them
starfall to 2t titan/kyveza
but you're payphoning platforms
so it doesnt matter
Glad I’m not
Yea but i'd carry you
I bricked a key for kassala last week



