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quiet drift
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Me when I beat my raidbots sim (my fae did 10% of my dmg)

obsidian jetty
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(dryad did 10%, voke did 10%, dots did 10%) God I'm so skill

minor swift
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ok yeah makes sense

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haha thanks

prisma tangle
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Hi do you have some good weakaura or addons for see if all the targets have dot on him like maybe if my plater can change color when the 2 dots are active

indigo sentinel
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that boomie is such a padder imo!

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@unique onyx you seen this?

ocean coral
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yeah, disgusting pad!

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😭

royal zenith
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oh no

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the main character and their posse are here

indigo sentinel
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my goat @sudden flame would be proud

ocean coral
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what I don’t disagree that I’m padding. It’s disgusting pad

unique onyx
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game's gone

royal zenith
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can't believe arctic's random fire actually hit a proc

obsidian jetty
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crazy part is that artic is saying I was ethical

royal zenith
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Dak was ethical for sending cd's into echo...

obsidian jetty
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My guild wiped to not killing adds. So I dotted them, sent a few falls. Somehow got r1 at the time, and r1 boss dam

maiden pasture
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Goat

obsidian jetty
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well, "made" is a strong word for it

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I think dak just did the shit and RL said "keep it up"

maiden pasture
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I played the exact same way in my main raid and in a 2/8 passion run on soulbinder, main raid I got 80 parse, passion raid got like rank 15

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The fight is a meme and will be removed from all-stars soon I hope

obsidian jetty
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I didn't know, but ig the adds get a dmg amp as well

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on soulfucker

maiden pasture
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They do?

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I did not know that

quiet drift
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tmyk

obsidian jetty
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yea idk the exact mech, only found out when I looked at log and saw a like 13mil non crit wrath on an add from voke

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think it's for x seconds when they get out of canister

royal zenith
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received dmg you mean?

quiet drift
royal zenith
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cause they do get deleted pretty quick

royal zenith
quiet drift
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New strat go convoke a fuck off add in narnia on 2 and 4min

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business move

maiden pasture
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Yeah I just ignore the ones that get broken from the canister, only hit the ones that all come in together

quiet drift
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Adds that get beamed out have 200% increased taken

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me thinks

pallid bay
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😭

quiet drift
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Bro

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That boss was legit one shot

pallid bay
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😭

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😭

pallid bay
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if you're not timing dryad surges with add dmg amp

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what are you even doing..

obsidian jetty
# pallid bay 😭

yea idk the exact mech, only found out when I looked at log and saw a like *9mil non crit wrath on an add from voke. (and then sune confirmed and linked me a SS of the amp) There fixed

pallid bay
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😎

royal zenith
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but guys the BOSS needs to die

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can't believe this

ocean coral
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adds > boss

round field
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Adds die boss dies

indigo sentinel
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Iqnidados has spoken

round field
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The swisher

royal zenith
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iqnidados is a feral

round field
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Meow

stable raven
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can we macro ca with a surge, since we want to hit 2x surge after ca anyway before dropping trees and going ham, or am i having a brainfart?

obsidian jetty
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you can, but you'd want another macro that doesn't have surge for when you want to fall

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I've got normal CA macro, CA macro with pot, CA macro with pot and surge

royal zenith
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been trying to avoid as many macros as that

stable raven
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drue, forgot starfall exists for a second 🫣

royal zenith
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wont catch me using some mmo mouse!!

stable raven
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im old and slow so im gonna use macro crutch πŸ˜‚

safe kite
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Surely it's more annoying to learn more keybinds than to just press 2 of them in the correct sequence.

round field
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It is

obsidian jetty
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I learned it in 1 pull

round field
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But its also more efficient

stable raven
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meh i use ca pot surge separately like forever, was just thinking i could make it easier for myself

obsidian jetty
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but I did the same thing with venthyr and 2nd on use trinket so

stable raven
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why press 3 buttons when one does trick

obsidian jetty
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Only thing you have to be mindful of is 1. you can't spell queue the off GCD stuff, so if you wrath into spellqueue 1 button macro, it'll just surge without CDs. 2. If you CA2 before CA1 dryad ends, it sometimes doesn't consume dryad favor with the surge you cast

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2 only happens if you are trying to snipe end of boss dying, or dmg amp or something that you fucked up

stable raven
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ty so much 😊

round field
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If you struggle to consume dryads favor just melee the boss

stable raven
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i guess i will try it out and see what works for me. if its gonna be shit i can go press 3 buttons again

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another one for the macro experts, can i do anything to avoid doubletapping ca with my shaky ass fingers? tried some things with a short castsequence which still did double ca when u double mash it.

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double tap sometimes happens because i had surgery in that hand a bit ago, so sadly not a lot i can do about it

safe kite
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you can put a castsequence on it

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and make it reset in like 2 seconds

obsidian jetty
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Maybe put it on a bind you have to reach abit so your finger is more straight. might be easier to single tap

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but otherwise no idea. Any macro option will just make you have downtime

stable raven
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but yea different keybind may be the play

round field
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idk just

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dont press it twice

stable raven
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yeah that was the plan, nerve damage says no sometimes

obsidian jetty
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the amount of times I saw gingi shove something in his mouth the other day....

safe kite
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should make it unfatfingeringablw

wet cloud
stable raven
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will try out later. think i had trinket or pot or something like that before the castsequence, mby that fugged it up.

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thanks for the input guys, appreciate it

edgy garden
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does my dream burst 'snapshot' if i cast wrath while eclipse/trees are up (and the buff fades before it hits target)?

pale swan
narrow fossil
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What is the best way to sim for ec m+ (except mdt sim)? simply use a patchwork 5 minute we use for kotc st?

obsidian jetty
pale swan
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decent is not rogue lvl decent

obsidian jetty
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if you're not gona do MDT sim just commit to feelycraft

craggy sonnet
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Just get all the mastery haste pieces out there

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Ez

zealous zenith
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errr why is our bis trinks the parapodia/lily but i sim higher with a signet and lily :/

round field
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Theyre basically the same trinket

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Its a marginal difference

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Also theyre not our best trinkets

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Araz exists

surreal sorrel
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Uhm i guess clawdeeyar means double on use is simming higher

round field
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Oh wait

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I got the names wrong

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Hmmmm

zealous zenith
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for m+! eh i suppose thats a single fight vs a non on use - not gunna have it up everytime

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idk

round field
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Probably dont wanna run double on use in keys

zealous zenith
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yeah ok, ill cut the losses!

round field
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Youre not gonna notice the difference probably

surreal sorrel
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Yeah at some points double on use could perform slightly better with each incarn + use trinket, but outside and on Bosses you suffer with dps loss

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So its + -

zealous zenith
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yeah ok. thank you ❀️

surreal sorrel
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πŸ‘

strong bronze
craggy sonnet
pale swan
craggy sonnet
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But yea, parapodia+lily seems good for keys

strong bronze
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10% aura buff maybe a bit too much , but a starfall and surge buff are needed

graceful plank
round field
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Wrong

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Boomie does solid damage in keys

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If you dont ur bad

zealous zenith
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^

jade drift
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its just me or this KOTG playstyle with 4 piece is kinda weird

royal zenith
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is that why you started playing feral?

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cause bamkin is so amazing??

royal zenith
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the pay-off is just tuned too low

jaunty blaze
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Everything is pretty much

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And you do fuck all in between cds

round field
royal zenith
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the "do fuck all in between cds" is a bit of an argument I don't agree with

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cause CD's are supposed to increase your damage

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else you're just a flat damage profile like BM hunter

jade drift
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noticed that while progging araz last night

royal zenith
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yeah that's the nature of this playstyle/damage profile

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the more damage you have outside of CD's the flatter it becomes

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if that's what you prefer it's fine obv

round field
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Nothing wrong with a bursty spec not doing a lot of dmg outside burst

jade drift
royal zenith
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they decided our tierset works like that

royal zenith
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no

round field
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Cause non burst specs suck ass

pale swan
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no

royal zenith
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EC has a flatter damage profile as an example

round field
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Big number good

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Venthyr was peak

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Big number into no number

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Into big number again

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Current keeper is kinda similar

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But its 10x more aids to play for less reward

leaden birch
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i did not play venthyr, was it that fun?

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peak bamkin?

surreal sorrel
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But venthyr was a pretty good pay-off unlike Keeper 4p

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Venthyr in sl was peak bamkin

round field
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It was fun cause it felt satisfying

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You still kinda did the same shit of wrath and starsurge

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That hasnt changed

jade drift
round field
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Yeah i really i hate it personally

zealous zenith
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with our tier running EC in m+, should we be doing starfire on ST for the surge?

lofty depot
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U should be doing Starfire on st regardless of the surge

round field
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You always starfire in st with ec

lofty depot
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The only reason u wrath is to get into lunar

surreal sorrel
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Oh

surreal sorrel
void shard
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i started druid as an alt. but im kinda confused. in the m+ spec cant i get into solar eclipse anymore?

lofty depot
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No

round field
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Yeah thats a hero talent

lofty depot
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Read lunar calling

round field
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You dont go solar at all

lofty depot
round field
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Wrath is there to enter lunar and thats it

void shard
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ahhhh thanks. i played it last season and there it was possible <.< thanks ^^

round field
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Uh

surreal sorrel
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Uhm what

round field
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No?

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Unless you fucked up talents

leaden birch
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maybe if he played kotg

void shard
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even on ST in m+?

lofty depot
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U haven't gone into solar with elunes chosen, ever

leaden birch
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which would still be weird

void shard
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i took the wowhead talents

zealous zenith
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its defs lunar calling

round field
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Even in st yes

leaden birch
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there it is baby

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wowhead

lofty depot
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The wowhead talents had lunar calling

surreal sorrel
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Never ever fully trust WoWHead

void shard
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no ofc not but just as a start

leaden birch
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ye its usually outdated

surreal sorrel
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But arctic is right, i never saw any EC Build without lunar calling

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But if you do, ignore it

void shard
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which site can i trust more?

round field
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Dreamgrove

surreal sorrel
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Compendium

leaden birch
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top of channel, clicky the link

void shard
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AHHH ty im used to the mage discord there is a channel dedicated for it ^^

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thanks alot

lofty depot
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Mage privilege

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Smh

surreal sorrel
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Here we go again

void shard
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from experience. elunes or keeper whats better for m+?

lofty depot
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Ec

vital shard
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EC for m+

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Raid mostly kotg

surreal sorrel
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Keeper is dead in m+

vital shard
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Raid is a little bit tricky if you're playing together with other top classes. Feels kind of unrewarding atm

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You need 90% to go for dps than other specs do with about 50-60 percentage.

But i don't thing we will get any change of that problem soon

strong bronze
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Balance in raid has been a dumpster fire to tune

void shard
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tbh i like balance. its such an easy chill spec i could play with a controller

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the basic rotation that is

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and this toon is just for fun with friends

royal zenith
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doesn't mean it has to do zero damage

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also doesn't mean you cant improve the spec while keeping it 'chill' and 'easy'

strong bronze
royal zenith
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Dunno, think its more of a dont want to

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Versus cant

strong bronze
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Well an overhaul is due , but apart from the eclipse system what else is there that can get fixed?

round field
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An overhaul has been due for a while

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But not gonna happen

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Next expac shadow enha reworks first

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And then

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They also remove some of our buttons

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And make them passive

jade drift
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i wonder who needs some love

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like a lot of love

wind urchin
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genereal question: Raiding
here and there i have to play moonkin in Raid as offspec

Icy Veins says: Chosen of Elune Singel Targte
WOwhead: Keeper

Where should i put my trust in?

wind urchin
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so how do i look up there? look at the kills and then the players?

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what about ARCHON

lofty depot
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No

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For st specifically it's keeper. There's only 1 fight u should really be EC and that's soul hunters. People are padding on soulbinder as EC

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But u can look at warcraftlogs for what people are running

wind urchin
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i will have a look at the logs, thx

willow jungle
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So i have a question, i got now a mythic staff and cant use ascension, should I use the focus lens or dusk/dawnthread for embellishment, or just sim it?

lofty depot
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Sim it

compact holly
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@vagrant prawn hello, how do you generate this view? (or the one shared by @lofty depot )

digital berry
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It’s a website

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Much better then what nichss uses

compact holly
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thank you πŸ™‚

leaden birch
glossy stream
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Am struggling to see in dungies if I used moonfire on all the mobs.
Now I use plater but it seems almost impossible to click the mobs without the buff if I even can see them due to a big pull / allot of plates.
Any tips on this?
Am not a plater expert..

compact holly
digital berry
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Or naguuras if you are ok with subbing to her twitch for it

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Much clearer indicators

digital berry
compact holly
digital berry
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If you want to see a timeline of events wclogs is the best place for it, as you can see in that screenshot the website he was using straight up shows 3 ca casts in the first 20 seconds for some reason

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Buffs announced when

glossy stream
royal zenith
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you made someone angry by calling them a padder @lofty depot

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did you know

digital berry
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Uhhh drama ?

livid jay
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she said she was a disgustiing padder herself sooo

dire osprey
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πŸ’€

lucid prism
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my parses have been shocking this season. sub 50% ilvl parses on raid bosses i've only got 2/4 set bonus. will 4/4 boost it back up? i'm worried i've missed a big change or something

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was getting 70-89% ilvl last season

royal zenith
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Im trying to cause drama

normal pilot
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buffs wouldn't affect your parse tho

dire osprey
lucid prism
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yeah

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seriously concerned i'm washed

drifting nova
normal pilot
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a grey parse unbuffed is still a grey parse buffed

drifting nova
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I'm always buffed

royal zenith
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except for your brain

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loooool

drifting nova
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no that too

dire osprey
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tumor buff

drifting nova
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so wtf did I miss for the cloak

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if I've done every quest/weekly

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and not got the currency

digital berry
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You get currency from delves 8+ and raid bosses

lucid prism
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you only get 3 a week

digital berry
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Afaik

lucid prism
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right

digital berry
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Next reset it’s maxed

drifting nova
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ok yeah but I cant get r5

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which ..others have

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my bosses are done

digital berry
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Go to the npc and check what he says above his head

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Should tell you if you have any silks available

drifting nova
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he says you broke

digital berry
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It’ll be like 11/12 or smth

drifting nova
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oh I do have enough nvm

digital berry
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Smh

drifting nova
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mb bc only killed dimensius yday

royal zenith
lofty depot
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Who got mad tho

royal zenith
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@ocean coral did

ocean coral
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I didn't get mad tho

royal zenith
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play into it

ocean coral
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πŸ™

royal zenith
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make arctic feel bad

ocean coral
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Oh sorry

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Yeah idk, its so weird to call me out like that

royal zenith
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see arctic

ocean coral
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I'm very angry

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Right meow

lofty depot
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Oh, from last night

royal zenith
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ALSO

lofty depot
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Me feel bad

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Good luck

ocean coral
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Good

royal zenith
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is it really padding

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if the only thing that kills you on soulbinder

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are the adds

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is it REALLY padding if phaseblades need to die

lofty depot
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Have the bottom 20th spec trying to kill adds when it's just better at st

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So true

royal zenith
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so if a FDK does it, it's okay?

lofty depot
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Ret too

royal zenith
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interesting

sly wadi
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you pad because you want bigger number
I pad because I'm too monke not to hit starfall
we are not the same

lofty depot
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U can hit starfall

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U can play twin moons, do w.e. u want.

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Calling a spade a spade tho

ocean coral
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That is me

round field
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I hate padders

lofty depot
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Recruitie like "I slammed a few falls and dotted adds, I'm not ethical"

royal zenith
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well that is technically padding

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even pressing starfall is

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by your logic

lofty depot
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Yea but like ethical padding πŸ™‚

royal zenith
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sussy

lofty depot
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There's going EC to pad, and there's pressing a few starfalls to pad

dry compass
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Anyone who does less damage than me is a shitter and anyone who does more than me is a padder

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Case closed

junior thicket
lucid olive
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is ur keyboard okay

pallid bay
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bro just running around

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😭

junior thicket
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hahahahaha

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keyboard has seen better days defo

junior thicket
lofty depot
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People say they die to blood circles without seeing them and I always assume they don't have the correct graphic settings, cuz I've never not seen them.

junior thicket
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nothing is set to low on my setting tho

livid jay
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or well it goes where the person with slam end up or sth idk

dire osprey
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but as the sheep i am i just copied it and went on with my day

lofty depot
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It wasn't 100%

scenic mist
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just spec feral guys

pallid bay
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got a green log or something

scenic mist
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i saw the truth

stuck meadow
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you guys think theres gonna be a tunning/patch tomorrow?

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and more nerfs to the raid

dire osprey
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nerf ele shams

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1st boss half the raid got a 95+ and the ele sham was on top with like a 45

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brutal

lofty depot
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Good, fuck the fotms

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Little rats

junior thicket
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i wonder

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is there anyone that has like a relation to blizzard in this disc

round field
scenic mist
trail heath
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Buffs when

scenic mist
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feral blasting

round field
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Orange class bad

scenic mist
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love the single target

round field
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Feral blasting on easiest bossess..

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Loomitar and fractillus

round field
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Very worthless

scenic mist
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not an easy boss

junior thicket
round field
lucid olive
round field
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Not at nexus king yet

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Maybe soon

scenic mist
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blasting the p1

round field
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Pi abuser

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Dont talk

scenic mist
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i dont abuse

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feral is just the 2nd best pi in our raid

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and we have 2 pi

junior thicket
lofty depot
digital berry
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again?

dire osprey
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HoA x0r6ztGiggle

lofty depot
dire osprey
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they aint fixing shit

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have u seen dawnbreaker

lucid olive
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can't wait for housing so I can be the HoA

dire osprey
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and this is after they brought it back

scenic mist
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lovely

craggy sonnet
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if that was the most egregious thing

dire osprey
craggy sonnet
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puddles clipping everywhere

normal pilot
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smh tww is over imagine still playing old content

craggy sonnet
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frontals clipping through the floor

dire osprey
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the dung is giga fried

junior thicket
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goood dont bring up my dawnbreaker ptsd

dire osprey
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also still that dead spot on ara kara

pseudo merlin
dire osprey
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where tank loses all agrro and half the mobs reset

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or randomly bonk dps

scenic mist
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@lucid olive i saw your diss at Ysondre btw
i'll get you when you won't expect it

craggy sonnet
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nice little single run compilation

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and there was more

digital berry
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i love those super zoomed in 360p screenshots

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where nothing is clear

craggy sonnet
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its 1080p source but ok

lofty depot
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Fucking clanker man

craggy sonnet
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here you can have more

round field
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I see nothing

craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
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yk yk

round field
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I can count the pixels

craggy sonnet
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bullshit

digital berry
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clankers don't understand the human eye

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gdamn wirebacks

lofty depot
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That's crazy

junior thicket
royal zenith
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to be fair

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if you know about the clipping, you also just tank it somewhere different

craggy sonnet
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yea this wall thing is cursed

royal zenith
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inside the building it's also ass

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with the benches

craggy sonnet
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i mean, there is a pat to the left

junior thicket
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yea

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pats left

craggy sonnet
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inside the tent is shit

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and in front of tent you are gonna ass pull

lofty depot
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Wrath on e

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Hm

digital berry
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I LOVE CASTING 5 STARFIRES IN A ROW WITHOUT A PROC

junior thicket
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sorry i didnt bind it to my big toe

lofty depot
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Fuggn m+ers

junior thicket
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believe me

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my keybinds before were way worse

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i used to have q and e for turning camera

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but i might get me a new mouse with more side buttons for wow

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maybe that will get me out of grey parses

lofty depot
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Turning camera?

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Is it 2008?

junior thicket
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yea the default setting

nova ocean
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Is today the day we get moonkin tuning

lofty depot
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No

nova ocean
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Tomorrow for sure

craggy sonnet
digital berry
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we getting no buffs

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a nerf in fact

lofty depot
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It's Monday, they gotta analyze all the data, they got a look at all the rerollers, they gotta investigate all the changes, they got a consult with other devs, they gotta evaluate

digital berry
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what

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they been knew

junior thicket
digital berry
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they have had the data

lofty depot
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Then they gotta do some math.... Then they gotta, consult some more

junior thicket
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but arent we in a promising spot then for receiving buffs

lofty depot
willow jungle
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And then they come to an conclusion that boomy Doesnt need change

covert coyote
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the blue and purple darts hit closest to bullseye

rough hull
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I have a 2-set on Elune’s Chosen and run M+ with last season’s talent build, meaning I can’t enter eclipse to buff wrath. With Elune’s Chosen 2-set, is it favorable to cast Starfire on a 1- target boss?

lofty depot
lofty depot
lofty depot
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Should read the guide

rough hull
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Even in raid?

lofty depot
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Read lunar calling

rough hull
lofty depot
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Ctrl + f

digital berry
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7 STARFIRES IN A ROW

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NO PROC

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i am actually about to lose my shit

round field
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40% btw

drifting nova
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there isnt a way to get the karesh intro gear if I've skipped it right

covert coyote
round field
#

Sure it is

inland stump
#

Is it worth tryna farm the boots that drop off of Soul Hunters?

craggy sonnet
#

farm how?

covert coyote
#

is it a big upgrade in your sim

craggy sonnet
#

but yea, they are by far the best boots

#

higher difficulty scales the cantrip effect as well

inland stump
#

I havent simmed it yet but yeah it seems like a huge increase

#

But i’d just pug the raid over and over or run it with my guild

lofty depot
#

Seems πŸ‘€ hm

inland stump
#

Also I basically just got into WoW proper (doing mythics and raid) and I really like this class a lot

digital berry
#

i ran flood 10 times this week for the damn neck

#

im boutta off myself

lofty depot
#

What do u mean farm

inland stump
#

Just run it over and over

lofty depot
#

That's not how game works

inland stump
#

Only once a week im guessing?

tawdry oak
#

yes

lofty depot
#

4 difficulties, but yes. Once a week per difficulty

inland stump
#

Im ngl I thought I could just hop in LFR and do the boss a bunch or hop in pugs

lofty depot
#

And idk if lfr boots are worth over 704

#

Would have to sim it

tawdry oak
#

even if u hop in pugs, you're competing against any other leather user

jaunty blaze
#

You can do that you just get loot once tho

inland stump
#

Gotcha

lofty depot
#

I should've not said anything and let him farm normal 500 times a week

#

Smh

jaunty blaze
#

Missed opportunity

tawdry oak
#

are there other games were you can farm raids endlessly for gear in a week?

round field
#

Borderlands 2

lofty depot
#

Osrs

#

Diretide

cloud lion
#

So that rwf is over will they buff us a bit?

zealous cipher
#

hey guys is 2 new tiers and 2 old tiers combo better than 4 old pieces both for m+ and raid

cloud lion
#

or they are saving us for next expansion epic BG 40v40 where we can shine with starfall

lofty depot
cloud lion
#

well i know blizz doesnt have a clue

vital shard
#

the first thing that should be changed is that the 3 %% versa buff of mark of the wild should be added to our damage

#

than everything is fine

#

πŸ˜„

cloud lion
#

1st they need to change our dmg outside cds

#

degen rotation with timing it than for 3 min flaping around

lofty depot
#

They would have to nerf the tierset to do that

#

Ur CDs aren't 3m

#

This isn't sl

cloud lion
#

well but on pull u use both cds

lofty depot
#

Ok 100s isn't 3minutes

vital shard
#

make starfall cd again and bring hurricane back like in wotlk πŸ˜„

round field
#

Stop typing

lofty depot
#

Why would we need 2 AOE spells

#

Brain rot

#

I was very against stellar drift, but imagine having to do that p3 on araz

vital shard
#

we need a change in our st / cleave. thats actually what counts in raids

#

ramp up time when mobs were deleted in 10 s is no fun

vocal lichen
#

Just change convoke cd to 4 seconds and I'm all set xD

round field
#

Mobs dont get deleted in 10s with ur average pug

frank grotto
#

just make Starfall a cast on area like it once was rather than this current degen aoe

#

then they can buff our st easily

spare anvil
#

yo is it worth overcapping 2sec of CA by overusing the 2nd CA in openner at 12sec? Some1 was telling me it might be worth funneling the 2x empowered big surges into the 2nd dryade

round field
#

Ur all cooked

lofty depot
cold gyro
#

I'm taking logs of my M+ runs to improve, anyone knows what I should look out for? Or it's pointless since it mostly depends on route/team comp?

round field
#

Both

#

Logs for m+ kinda smell

cold gyro
#

I'm looking for things that I can do better. My only other option is to send a vod to a coach?

round field
#

Waste of money for a spec as simple as this

#

Its boils down to dotting mobs not overcapping ap and always casting

cold gyro
#

Idk, besides that I feel that in current season I'm not pulling my weight in the keys that I've been doing and I don't want to be the guy who blames the new 4 pc

#

even if it sucks dongs

round field
#

Its definitely not the 4p

#

Spec still does decent damage in keys

#

And it plays exactly the same as last season

lofty depot
#

Post a log

round field
#

Oof everyone doing season 2 numbers

#

Snails pace dungeon

cold gyro
#

yep xd

#

tank is not pulling hyper big either

round field
#

Ok i looked at one thing cause mobile is aids

#

You do not starfall 4 times in incarn on small adds first boss

#

Theres no shot

#

That shit dies way to fast

cold gyro
#

makes sense

round field
#

Its so bad that it makes you almost lose to tank

#

And well

#

If ur tank pulls small

#

Ur not gonna do that much

cold gyro
#

I think the bigger improvements that I need to do are on boss damage

round field
#

Probably

#

Again not a lot to really minmax there

#

Apart from always casting and not canceling casts

#

Keep up ur dots dont overcap ap and press starfire

cold gyro
#

do you ever delay warrior or elune to have it inside incarn or it doesn't matter

lofty depot
#

this foe at the end of that pack u should likely hold

lofty depot
#

its 45s, incarn is 100s

#

ur 2nd incarn u only got 5 starfires

kind wind
#

How many starfires is ideal in a CA? I usually can get 7-8 depending on if I save the natures grace buffs.

lofty depot
#

ye

#

can get more if u meld

#

think bare minimum u should get is 6

kind wind
lofty depot
#

sent a weird incarn

#

that pack has 1.3b hp left. the next pack u pull has 2.1b

#

ope

#

and u die to the next pack too

cold gyro
#

sometimes I find myself in the situation where the pack is half dead and I have incarn available. Do I delay if next pack is big enough then?

lofty depot
#

opening sequence was fine all dungeon

#

but here u entered eclipse prior

lofty depot
#

why do u need to press it "now"

vocal lichen
#

Yeah 2 stacks of incarn are the best

lofty depot
#

huh

vocal lichen
#

I mean the talent

#

I love how it removes the pressure to use it as soon as it gets off cd

cold gyro
lofty depot
#

yea

#

like idk 90% of the time, ur pressing incarn at the start of packs not in the middle

lofty depot
#

and ill assume because of this

#

u now only got 5 starfires in incarn

#

yea im not pressing incarn here

cold gyro
#

yeah I've realized that the boss goes immune at some point, didn't have the info lol

lofty depot
#

i mean idc about hte immune when referencing this

#

it has 200m hp

cold gyro
#

ooh true

#

yeah I've got to start thinking about the time that the mobs will be alive before sending it

#

good point

#

as for the 5 starfire inside CA I have to investigate what was teh reason

lofty depot
#

wasting dreamstates

cold gyro
#

I have the video, let me see

lofty depot
#

whats the point of being troll

#

if ur not using berserking

cold gyro
#

i'm zandalari

lofty depot
#

o

cold gyro
lofty depot
#

ew

cold gyro
#

lol

#

I know, I know

lofty depot
#

why havent u crafted wrist?

cold gyro
#

I ended up crafting OH with ascension, been sitting on that shard for a while and couldn't decide

lofty depot
#

well u dont have a myth weapon u shouldve crafted staff

#

but now u crafted OH and havent crafted wrist

cold gyro
#

wrist are THAT good?

lofty depot
#

its an embell

vocal lichen
#

Ring also seems like a safe option. It will probably take a while before you replace it

cold gyro
#

i have ring embell and OH

lofty depot
#

u can use enchanted runed crest, it be 704 and u not "waste" gilded

#

oh

#

i didnt even... thats a choice

cold gyro
#

week 1 i was dropping no rings

vocal lichen
#

So did you put 2 lenses on it?

lofty depot
#

thats not why u would craft it but sure

vocal lichen
#

Or lens+ ascension?

cold gyro
#

u mean the embellish on ring?

vocal lichen
#

Yeah, which ones did you get?

cold gyro
#

the chance of dealing damage

#

can't remember the exact name

vocal lichen
#

Cause I feel like you either go
ascension on weapon/offhand+double it's effect on wrist or double lens

#

Yeah that's lens then

#

Seems like a good choice for m+ runs

#

Unless it isn't, then please correct me xD

cold gyro
#

I started playing 5 months ago, I ain't correcting anyone on anything at the moment lol.

vocal lichen
#

I started playing more seriously this season, trying to push myth raid a bit. Sadly I usually find myself at the bottom of dps meters

#

I mean I'm not in myth raid yet, we got to 7/8 hc

sonic crag
#

1 step at a time lil chicken

cold gyro
#

Can be bottom on the recount, if you're parsing 75+ compared to other druids, it's good enough in my opinion

lofty depot
#

Recount.....

vocal lichen
#

I'm parsing like 60ish

cold gyro
#

details*

vocal lichen
#

Let me get a log

lofty depot
#

Is it 2008?

cold gyro
#

you're edgy PogCat

lyric vapor
#

can someone help me figure out some things im new to the expansion

sonic crag
#

If the boss dies, it's a good job ||or you paid good money||

lofty depot
cold gyro
#

thanks for the pointers by the way, you spotted some stuff that I didnt think about, so I appreciate @lofty depot

lofty depot
#

Yeet

sonic crag
#

Are you playing boomie this tier?

lyric vapor
#

whats the fastest way to get better gear after hitting 80 and should i focus on campaign or gearing up

whole terrace
vocal lichen
#

Meh I was about to post a raid log, but I already changed so much. I'll test it out and see if I've improved already

lyric vapor
#

what are key runs

sonic crag
#

LFR, WQ boxes, Delves, M0 -> Keys and NM/HC raids

lyric vapor
#

im still doing normal dungeons

lofty depot
#

Dungeons but with a +

whole terrace
#

lol im trying to play boomy in guardian gear and YIKERS

#

i cant cast shit its so slow lol

loud kettle
#

Wdym you have too much hastr

lofty depot
#

Time walking usually gives decent gear, can do the arthi highlands stuff for like adventurer gear

cold gyro
whole terrace
vocal lichen
#

Delves 8+ are also a great start

whole terrace
lyric vapor
#

how do io do timewalking

#

its not in the lfg

whole terrace
#

i did snag this juicer

vocal lichen
#

but it's not available rn

loud kettle
#

gg thought haste was most dps for baer

cold gyro
# lyric vapor im still doing normal dungeons

Do all the blue exclamation mark quests, up to the point that you reach 680+ level. Then delves, the higher level the better, than mythic plus, higher better.
Also Raid finder every week and get yourself a guild, it's the best way to learn and have fun

lofty depot
#

Guild... Have fun.... Don't lie to the frog

sonic crag
#

It's an addiction, you gotta keep pretending its fun. Easier to cope with guildies who are in the same boat

lyric vapor
#

where are the blue quests?

#

i havent seen them yet

cold gyro
#

In dornogal every week you get 3 or 4

lyric vapor
#

the purple triangles?

cold gyro
#

the icon looks like this

lyric vapor
#

oh yeah they arent popping up for me

#

do i need to finish campaign

lofty depot
#

Go kill the world bosses, go do a normal dungeon, go do the raid, go do time walking... Things like that

#

Uhh, u need to at some point

lyric vapor
#

yes, for the blue quests specifically

lofty depot
#

Would just do it while ur queuing for lfg

cold gyro
lyric vapor
#

nope

#

looks like i gotta do some questing ty all for the tip

#

tips*

#

what are the blue quests called?

#

world quest?

cold gyro
#

yeah you can also check youtube for videos like "i'm level 80, what to do now" and the current patch so TWW 11.2

#

they are weekly quests

lyric vapor
#

ok ty ty. i did watch some videos but its all very confusing havent played seriously since OG cataclysm

cold gyro
#

it is confusing at the beginning I agree. Take your time and maybe find a guild to ask questions and make some friends

#

mine helped a lot when I got back in the game

dry compass
#

Coming back during dragonflight and getting dumped in valdrakken was like a psychotic break

#

Quest markers EVERYWHERE

cold gyro
#

ahahah

#

"it do be that way"

errant flint
#

Whats a good dungeon to sim with MDT this season? I want to sim trinkets for m+ vs raid.

#

Cuz someone said araz was not good for m+

lofty depot
#

I think u can do a bunch and be fine.... Id probably stray away from like dawnbreaker or gambit tho

#

HOA or priory maybe

drifting nova
#

just do the key

dry compass
#

Araz gonna be fine for M+

scarlet tapir
#

does anyone know if u can leave taza hard mode and go back in

#

as in i gotta go afk for today ill come back tomororw

dry compass
#

It's not as absurdly good as it is in raid, but it's still perfectly good

spice hedge
#

are there any WA's for the tier set to track the dryads uptime?

dry compass
#

Works like a regular mythic dungeon lockout

scarlet tapir
#

how does it diferentiate from hard mode then

#

when u go back in

dry compass
#

I mean 100% as in have I done it myself? No

spice hedge
#

ty arctic

lofty depot
#

Or use OiBalance pack cuz it's clearly better than what ur using

dry compass
#

Surprised you don't have that on copy paste yet arctic

lofty depot
#

I do

lucid olive
#

so you can send people there next time and let them jump through more clicks

lofty depot
#

So now the line will be
Linked in conpendium or use the OiBalance pack cuz it's clearly better than what ur using

dry compass
#

The real question is is it luxthos or aefnar that hasn't updated their balance pack for the tier set

#

Or both

lofty depot
#

Afenars isn't updated ever

snow elm
#

Ok when do patch notes come out on mondays

lofty depot
#

They don't

snow elm
#

😭

normal pilot
#

yo big update

#

you get achievement for buying the pre-order moutns now

dry compass
#

If there's tuning you'll probably get notes with server reset tomorrow morning

spice hedge
#

are there any ST builds for elunes chosen? or is that just giga grief

lofty depot
#

Giga grief

#

But there are builds in the compendium

spice hedge
#

ty ty, still trying to navigate the discord πŸ˜…

lofty depot
#

There's like 4 channels

#

Where u navigating

dry compass
#

Lost in the chaos of #pvp

wooden oyster
#

Hey! I'm getting into M+ on Boomie atm. For low keys such as 10's should I go EC or Keeper? I got new 4 set.

lofty depot
#

EC is fine

wooden oyster
#

Alright! Thank you!

dusty horizon
#

can someone give me some advice on how to analyze my own logs as a boomie? whats some key things i can look for?

pale halo
#

Are we buff yet?

lofty depot
#

When u get into the micro of casting effciently, and sequencing properly, and counting casts, u can start micro managing what ur doing wrong

#

If ur just learning, it's better to post a log. Have me rip it to shreds and u then understand where those problems are and then maybe u can notice them better

lucid olive
#

keep in mind the active time and cancelled casts

#

and cooldown overlaps

#

the rest is just fluff

dusty horizon
#

last i checked wowanalyzer for boomie was out of date that matter?

lucid olive
#

no

lofty depot
#

The things like canceled casts and active time are still useful

dusty horizon
#

i just swapped to boomie this season i'm a healer main

lucid olive
#

why are u taking 3 seconds between each button press

dusty horizon
#

that likely was the night my computer was lagging becasue of wows inability to use cores effectively

lofty depot
#

Why r we starfalling on st

lofty depot
dusty horizon
#

my 7700x could run 6 wows if they weren't working with a game that's 20 years old

lofty depot
#

Don't use asp outside of eclipse

#

Dont use trees at the end of eclipse

dusty horizon
lofty depot
#

Also, id assume u were in solar already

dusty horizon
#

use power ah fuck not that one

lofty depot
#

Weird 3rd starfire

#

What does flub my power spenders mean

round field
#

"iqnious play balance this fight"

lofty depot
#

U know what good job holding CA for convoke

#

Most new players just aend

worthy olive
#

Hey Guys,
how did you do your sims? Patchwork 1 Boss 5min for St? and What for M+?
Thanks πŸ™‚

lofty depot
dusty horizon
lofty depot
#

Mother fuck, if I see another surge outside of eclipse

dusty horizon
#

LOL

lofty depot
#

If ur gonna cap asp, u send a surge before leaving eclipse

#

not outside of it

worthy olive
dusty horizon
lofty depot
#

Mannnn, we were doing so good

#

And then we send this CA without trees or convoke

dusty horizon
lofty depot
#

😭

#

3 surges without 24% buff

#

😭

dusty horizon
#

look that damage buff Might have helped

#

but who's to say really

#

so main focus so far seems to be pairing cds more logically and not casting 3rd/4th starfires for no reason?

lofty depot
#

I can't look at everything cuz mobile

shrewd warren
#

671 jastor diamond still worth using? it sims 14k higher then other rings but im not sure if i should keep it

lofty depot
#

Tell ur spr he's doing it wrong

dusty horizon
#

absolutely not ill take it lmao

lofty depot
dusty horizon
lofty depot
#

Ur starlords aren't bad, few miss steps but shrug

shrewd warren
#
  1. is why im unsure if I should keep it @lofty depot is 14k dps above other rings worth risking the bug?
lofty depot
#

Well the 14k DPS is likely the uptime on said buff

#

Maybe even a few 0.1%s

#

So the idea is maybe if u can get a high mastery ring to 704, it's likely better

#

Or high Crit/vers with mastery

shrewd warren
#

aight ty πŸ™‚

digital berry
#

sweating over 14k dps when we do 5 mill is also silly

#

the extra stamina alone is worth it

barren carbon
shrewd warren
halcyon panther
#

Are we expecting balance tweaks tomorrow ?

dapper wing
#

also

#

10k stamina increase for replacing jastor's is great. It's not much but I've definetely been overkilled by that amount before

round field
#

if you take ring for minor dps loss cause of stamina ur a pussy

#

dps > anyhting

dapper wing
#

Living is infinitely more dps than being floor pov

brittle anvil
#

Whats the best way to sim gear for m+`?

dapper wing
#

1 target 5 minutes

#

We don't really change anything

lofty depot
dapper wing
#

Or atleast that's what it was unless we have a working dungeon sim?

lofty depot
#

"working"

#

The apl isn't made for it, it does funny things sometimes

round field
#

playing dps role and chosing to do less dps

#

smh

slim iris
#

Grass @round field

round field
#

shut up nerd

vocal lichen
#

Why do I even bother asking, there is room for improvement, even I can tell

#

Jeez

round field
#

id fall down these stairs sober

#

thats how bad it is

slim iris
#

Sit @round field

lofty depot
#

We don't want stairs, we want walls

vocal lichen
#

Yeah, the thing is that it's from nexus king salhadaar and I kinda felt like I need to save a bit of AP to not lose dps while avoiding stuff

#

So I often leave enough AP for 1 or 2 casts whenever time to avoid damage comes

slim iris
#

Ok

#

Good

slow quail
#

gathering moonlight falling off between trash feels so bad

slim iris
#

So don’t worry

#

Just know when u can and can’t do that

vocal lichen
#

I worry, cause DKs in my team did 50% more dmg than me T_T

slim iris
#

Then you are doing something else wrong

round field
vocal lichen
#

Yeah, I've adjusted talents and potions a bit, but IDK how much that will help

slim iris
#

Bored @round field

vocal lichen
#

I will compare next week, once I fight nexus king again

lofty depot
#

Yea my saladbar is kinda jank

late sapphire
urban crescent
#

please and thank you

lucid olive
#

don't need to refresh moonfire here

#

the trees did it for you

junior thicket
#

nah ur just flexing atp

lofty depot
#

Crafting off hand without mythic weapon or kris

#

Crafting off hand with wrong stats

lucid olive
#

refresh sunfire before entering eclipse not after

dapper wing
#

Starlords pretty alright, can be better

lucid olive
#

shouldve saved these treants for CA or used CA with them

lofty depot
#

U want to send those surges faster

lucid olive
#

since you ended up sending a lone CA later

junior thicket
#

isnt it better to allignt the trinket with convoke? because of the buffed starsurge after dryads fade?

lucid olive
#

well fight was over in 30 seconds

#

you used treants at 3:07

#

and CA at like 3:20

#

shouldve held the trees and sent them with CA

lofty depot
#

330-340 fight, u hold 3rd ca and 2nd convoke for 4th CA

#

Do a 2-2

dusty horizon
#

wait really

lofty depot
#

Ye

dusty horizon
dapper wing
#

We want to send our int trinkets before we ca or after ca.
It's before right? so the dryad gets more int to cap? Or does it just not work that way

lofty depot
#

The int is based on when dryad despawns

dapper wing
#

so trinket before hand

#

Oh

lofty depot
#

But said trinket always increases convoke damage

#

So u just send with ca

dapper wing
#

Araz's decaying is better used for the convoke instead of the cap for dryad.

lofty depot
#

Would need to do some math on 2k int on 2 normal surges vs 2k int on buffed surges

urban crescent
dapper wing
#

mhmhm

lofty depot
#

U simmed mastery Crit, mastery vers, and mastery haste. and it said take haste mastery?

dapper wing
#

That's surprising

jaunty blaze
#

not even simming crit vers smh

lofty depot
#

Do I like like an insane asyly

jaunty blaze
#

wcyd if it sims best

dapper wing
#

I mean if it sims the best you run it on what's best till new gear makes it change

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

low sigil
#

isn't it cheap to recraft stats?

dapper wing
#

or sim it again

jaunty blaze
#

its pretty cheap yes

lofty depot
#

Yea but u can't recraft my.eyes

urban crescent
low sigil
#

ok, i couldn't remember if it requires sparks or not to do those kind of recrafts

urban crescent
#

noob!!!

dapper wing
#

Nah you can just recraft shit as long as you have the mats for it

lofty depot
#

To the depths with u

urban crescent
#

ty arctic and gamz

#

i appreciate it

dapper wing
#

But don't USE depths

#

depths is shit

urban crescent
#

i still dont really get how long to hold trees for

urban crescent
lofty depot
jaunty blaze
#

probably didnt sim crit enchant either

lofty depot
jaunty blaze
urban crescent
#

ffs

lofty depot
#

Hmm

urban crescent
#

im going to run another sim rn

lofty depot
#

Also used gilded on funny mace that's shit

#

Hmm

urban crescent
#

yea

#

i had a champ kris

#

and it simmed good with crafted oh

lofty depot
#

Had?

urban crescent
#

i simmed after crafting

#

now its worse than 710 mace

jaunty blaze
#

im hesitant to even use them on hc araz πŸ˜”

urban crescent
#

???

tender elbow
#

state of boomie, mythic Araz

jaunty blaze
#

am i too stingy

urban crescent
#

ii got baited

lofty depot
#

704 should beat that mace

#

Or 701?

urban crescent
#

i will sim again

dapper wing
#

With new stats on said OFFhand, kris should beat it

#

Especially that weapon lol

lofty depot
urban crescent
#

i had to run the timewalking weapon for the meme

#

its based as fuck

lofty depot
#

Hmm, blud has 14k crit