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bronze sage
drifting nova
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turns out single target raids

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are boring

lucid olive
dapper wing
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aren't there two of those

drifting nova
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it's more when 90% of the raid is st

lucid olive
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No

drifting nova
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and st as a whole sucks

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across multiple classes

meager storm
lucid olive
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It's a 6 boss raid, a 2 boss raid and a 1 boss raid

lofty depot
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holyyyyyyyyyyyyy

dapper wing
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ah

meager storm
lofty depot
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thats my bis

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2nd* bis

bronze sage
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@lofty depot thanks for the help i'll change those bad habits ty ty

covert coyote
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Class tuning now that rwf is over COPIUM

dry compass
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"Everything is OP, there's a few classes that are unplayable and terrible" GUESS WHO HES TALKING ABOUT GUYS

dapper wing
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Ret

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Hunter

meager storm
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hunter?

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there is an mm hunter topping almost every boss

dapper wing
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I'm just saying, calling it now

meager storm
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with long kill times

dapper wing
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Hunter buff

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Wasn't played on dimmydome. Means hunter buffs

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Boomkin won't be touched

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I'll cry, but I feel it

lofty depot
dapper wing
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Yeah but they don't like us

lofty depot
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even on its funny council fight "niche"

lucid olive
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Krona played EC for 2 pulls

dapper wing
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True lol

lucid olive
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Then crashed out and sat

dry compass
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brought 1 druid for buff and it was a resto who bottomed meters VerySadCat

lofty depot
lucid olive
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He is in my heart

lofty depot
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lol he played boomkin 1 pull on dimmy

dapper wing
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Wait did Krona actually crash out? or was he just sat because druid sucks

lofty depot
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then didnt try it again 😭

lucid olive
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Both

dapper wing
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Sadgers

dry compass
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just think about trying to play boomkin on dimmy as it is now

lucid olive
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Dps druid is insanely dogshit

devout hazel
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does anyone have a wa that tracks the buff on 4 set

lofty depot
dry compass
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all those target swaps and constantly at risk of dying just to lose to an arcane mage on the damage amp

devout hazel
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thankies

lofty depot
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or use OiBalance pack cuz its clearly better than what ur using

dapper wing
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Rework our mastery, rework our class

lofty depot
dapper wing
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Midnight... trust

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Like they've been saying since DF beta?

lucid olive
dapper wing
dry compass
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hopefully i get alpha access for the first time in 12 years so I can post on alpha forums VerySadCat

dapper wing
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And blizzard can ignore you

lofty depot
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imagine not having alpha access

lucid olive
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I am the alpha and you do not access me

lofty depot
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id access u

dry compass
lofty depot
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clearly not cool enough

dry compass
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blizzard hates canadians

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confirmed

lofty depot
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maybe report bugs

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they like qa testers that are free

dapper wing
dry compass
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I do but i pass them directly to my QA friend rather than through the report tool to get lost in the mountain of nonsense

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maybe thats my problem Despair

lofty depot
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well yea, cuz then ur friend gets all the credit

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fuggn idgit

dry compass
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scott did 10m dps to the boss during the burn

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wtf is prot warrior

dapper wing
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Burn phase

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All of p3

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Sorry for the SHIT screenshots lol

lofty depot
dapper wing
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well... that's a new sticker

dry compass
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they know exaclty what theyre doing

lofty depot
dry compass
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they sent cds on platform not burn

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theyre sandbagging

dapper wing
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smh

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Sandbagging mages

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First firemage doesn't sim correctly now this

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Smh my head

lucid olive
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I'm glad the race is over so I can go back to hatewatching @wicked shuttle on his own stream

dapper wing
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Oh lets go

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Hatewatching

dry compass
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I want tettles to do a "how low ilevel can I do boomkin kyveza on" challenge

digital berry
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i want tettles to advocate for balance druid like kalamazi advocates for locks

dry compass
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Do you remember when Naguura was doing that interview and blizz said "boomkins have the best interrupt in the game"

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and she gives him the eyebrow raise and the "do they though?"

dapper wing
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Yeah... if it works

dry compass
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need that energy out of tettles

vital hound
meager storm
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hm taza

vital hound
craggy sonnet
dapper wing
wicked shuttle
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NOW THEY CAN BUFF MOONKIN

dapper wing
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Finally

maiden pasture
lofty depot
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new sticker

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add it

dapper wing
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We demand the sticker

craggy sonnet
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3% aura 💀

lofty depot
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cucumberingtogether

craggy sonnet
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did they know you were cucumbering for boomie buffs?

lofty timber
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Should I run Elune in mythic dungeons or run KOG for lower keys?

craggy sonnet
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just play elune

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kotg plays yuck in keys

dapper wing
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You would have to have a tank play for kotg and why do that when you could just ec and brain off

lofty timber
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Thats what I thought but someone in my key said run KOG since elune takes ramp time

craggy sonnet
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who cares

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then you blow through the key anyways

split musk
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i personally found kog to be better in lower keys

exotic perch
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EC in keys is hilarious man

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love pressing 3 buttons

dapper wing
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3?

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What's the third one

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Starfire, starfall, starfire, starfall

exotic perch
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fury of elune

wild dune
lean sun
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They really need to make 4 set just stack 3 times and increase proc chance lol ripping a whole eclipse of Starfire's and only getting 2 stacks feels so bad

split musk
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kog having these like small big damage windows with minimal ramp is nice for pugging low stuff

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but at that level you could probably play without talents so w/e

wild dune
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like could u ask for a better breakdown

azure sand
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3% aura buff incoming

dapper wing
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3% great

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I can't wait to go from bottom of the barrel to barely floating above the other shitters

lofty depot
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u think ur gonna be above anyone

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kek

dapper wing
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Arms

lofty depot
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warriors arent people

dapper wing
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hahaha

azure sand
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Dethrone the Aug Evokers

dapper wing
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Buff everoyne and aug gets a buff

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technically

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Rise up

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Get your cancel auras

craggy sonnet
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man, echo still going is crazy

digital berry
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why in the world in 30 gilded crests on the araz trinket only 25k dps

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huh

craggy sonnet
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what an unbelievable end boss

dapper wing
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Yeah, crazy boss

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can't wait to get to it this tier

craggy sonnet
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also emni

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seems like it was killable today, huh?

digital berry
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yeah i had to eat my words

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multiple times

craggy sonnet
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its crazy how much you can optimize dps

digital berry
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tbf this tier was the very first tier in which i actually watched rwf

dapper wing
craggy sonnet
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are you like a clip bot on max' stream?

lofty depot
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just making sure u saw it clanker

dapper wing
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Yes I am

craggy sonnet
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got it

digital berry
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bro is a max fanboy in disguise

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we've been infiltrated

dapper wing
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I won't hatewatch Tettles, can't stand echo casting, Max is the easiest to turn to 1% volume and watch

digital berry
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ok but what is there to watch

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rwf over

dapper wing
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The banter

digital berry
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all you're going to witness now is the usual max yap fest

potent cargo
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left and right

lofty depot
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no clue actual

potent cargo
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im excited for midnight boomy

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some extra talent points in the tree means our survivability and dmg problems go away right?

digital berry
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They didn’t when they added hero talents

dapper wing
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The apex capstones or whatever

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Terrified

exotic perch
lofty depot
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unless they do some class talent stuff

exotic perch
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too much is bad for you

lofty depot
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which they said "some" changes

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u know whats promising

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druid wasnt the first one they showcased

dapper wing
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Lets go

digital berry
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Yeah surely the reason Druid wasn’t the first one is because they are completely changing our spec

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Fuck eclipses

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Clunky piece of shit system

dapper wing
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Complete rework

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Not a single ability stays

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lol

somber path
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watch them just bring back empowerments

potent cargo
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ye bin eclipse

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remove starfall

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surge just infinitely cleaves

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for full dmg

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no worries

snow elm
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i dont think blizz will buff boomies, someone has to be at the bottom after all

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maybe nerfing boomies drives engagement

potent cargo
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stellar flare is turned passive dot from surge and then treat it like ignite no worries we're solved

snow elm
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:]

dapper wing
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Mhmhm

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Remake our mastery to be better Ele mastery

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so we get triple casts instead of double

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but without the damage nerf

meager storm
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they will turn weaver into our mastery

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calling it

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u heard it here first

dapper wing
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Bring back pulsar

potent cargo
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star weaver?

meager storm
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ye

potent cargo
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that'd actually be lit though

dapper wing
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Pulsar is our mastery but at like 100 astral. Just perma in incarn

meager storm
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ye

maiden pasture
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how does that even work as a mastery stat

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what scales with mastery

dapper wing
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Who cares

meager storm
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% to get a surge/starfall proc and its dmg or some sht

potent cargo
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surge applies stellar flare and spreads it in aoe, boomy needs an epidemic spell 1 min cd to spread dots to all targets too 🗣️

maiden pasture
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make it happen

dapper wing
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I'm down

potent cargo
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I think fire mage had that in wrath?

lofty depot
potent cargo
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100% crit

dapper wing
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Actually that seems kinda lit

potent cargo
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just legit spam 1 button whole fight

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i rememb seeing a vid of it

potent cargo
dapper wing
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3 extra, pick up well honed instincts, incap roar, and stampeding roar

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Does nothing but

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uh

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

potent cargo
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warrior 3 extra points going straight into damgur

lofty depot
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4 points in spec tree, but theyre all going to the "apex talents"

potent cargo
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druid its like thanks man I really wanted incap typhoon and 1 min roar

maiden pasture
lofty depot
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which are gonna surely be good (kek)

maiden pasture
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short kick vigil incap roar and master shifter

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🎦

lofty depot
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devdh get 100% crit thing, imagine our buffed surges always crit

dapper wing
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Like half of our talents need just BE baseline

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holy fuck

lofty depot
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mastery vers gang

upper anvil
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for the 4piece its just the same rotation right, you just hope you can proc up to 6 stacks?

dapper wing
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Can we get one of you fuckers on the dev team for boomkin

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Just take over

lofty depot
dapper wing
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Yes

dapper wing
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Just kinda blast

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Things just happen when they happen

upper anvil
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kinda just feels lame that you need to rng the 40%

dapper wing
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

upper anvil
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while other specs just gets a instant big dps increase from 4p :kek:

dapper wing
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That's our 2pc for ec

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Starfire big ups

upper anvil
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yeah but you need the 2p procs to get the 4p stacks no?

dapper wing
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Or is it our 4pc. Which ever one gives us starfire damage is the big one

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Starfire gets just a passive increase to damage with our tierset

teal sphinx
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@delicate perch

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Just found out liquid won

lofty depot
upper anvil
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is our offpiece shoulders or legs

dapper wing
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Sim it

lofty depot
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like talents are similar but boomkins are just worse

dapper wing
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Kinda just depends on your gear.

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Big brain tactic, have no off piece. Equip all 5 tier pieces until something sims better

novel scaffold
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Why do I stack starfall?

dapper wing
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So it does damage?

unique remnant
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I followed the advice to play with more until because it would be better for M+ with the Elune Choose tier I currently have 13% Critical 30% Haste 22% Mastery 5% Versatility.
The sims already tells me not to continue putting until he tells me to look for Versatility-Mastery now

upper anvil
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starfall is still a large chunk of your damage and its your spender

novel scaffold
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but why stack it?

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does it do more?

potent cargo
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because it has unique

dapper wing
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Because it doesn't harm you to stack it?

potent cargo
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application

dapper wing
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It's a unique app

potent cargo
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stack it 6 times it does 6 starfalls worth of dmg

dapper wing
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stack it twice, it does 2 starfalls of damage

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Spend your astral

lofty depot
upper anvil
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what else are you gonna spend your ap on

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starsurge in multiple targets?

potent cargo
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new resident evil game looks fkn terrifying man

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finally some content

dapper wing
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I can't wait for that actually

potent cargo
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we got 9 more months of this xpac no fated season

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we gonna need some heat

dapper wing
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Nah but seriously

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The LEGO batman game tho

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That shit IS GAS

upper anvil
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lego batman is always gas

lofty depot
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if u want raid, it will tell you mastery + crit/vers

unique remnant
novel scaffold
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does it really do more stacked? yeah ive been using the astral power on starsurge but making sure i keep up starfall. but if it does more then im sucking lol.

dapper wing
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It doesn't do more stacked

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It's just another application of it

novel scaffold
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ohhhh

dapper wing
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So its 1+1+1+1

novel scaffold
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ok ok ok ok

lofty depot
novel scaffold
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maf

lofty depot
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its weird cuz of how the foe stacks work

novel scaffold
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thanks nerds

craggy sonnet
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they inted so hard with tier sets, man

dapper wing
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They need to stop designing druid first

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leave us till last

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cook something sick for us for once

craggy sonnet
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nobody at blizz playing with that shit

dapper wing
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We are just paying for s1 of df tier ste

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The free spenders

lofty depot
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wasnt even good :/

dapper wing
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It was infinitely better than any slop they gave us after

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atleast prenerf of it

lofty depot
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what ur paying for is SL

mystic crown
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hiyoo fellow baldudus I think i broke my toon D:

dapper wing
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True

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thats

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uh

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a low % of mastery

lofty depot
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probably not in boomkin form

vernal pollen
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im hearing jastor diamond is bugged and not simming properly

lofty depot
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probably human

mystic crown
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boomkin form D:

lofty depot
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bugged live

mystic crown
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can I ever financially recover from this TT_TT

dapper wing
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yeah

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get better gear

mystic crown
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okay thank 🙁

unique remnant
viral cliff
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this is cursed. even simming 6/6 accuser I still cant replace jastors

lofty depot
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get better rings

viral cliff
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why is jastors so good pepegahands

lofty depot
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priory out sims it

vital hound
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strong innit

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strong gear is strong

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more news after sports

viral cliff
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whats coming up in sports

vital hound
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boomkin still fkn beans

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arctic calls me a nonce in DMs

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and our "experts" are washed

rotund sparrow
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Waiting for another 8% post rwf buff

viral cliff
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monkey paw curls 8% buff but KOTG tier 4pc nerf by 1100%

rotund sparrow
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It's gonna happen

craggy sonnet
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oh shit .. 8% sounds massive

unique remnant
craggy sonnet
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not for raid

lofty depot
vital hound
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reject haste

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stack crit

viral cliff
lofty depot
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lol blud thinks the tier needs nerfed

viral cliff
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I was joking

lofty depot
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when its getting buffed

vital hound
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he said monkey paw

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ya goose

lofty depot
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we dont joke about nerfs here

lofty depot
viral cliff
vital hound
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wtf else are we gonna do

lofty depot
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(idk what it means)

viral cliff
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joking makes the pain go away

vital hound
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its a saying innit

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you ask for good thing

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monkey paw curls

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bad thing happens

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you wish nothing happen

dapper wing
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Monkey paw unfurls. Boomkin gets buffed. Wrath damage goes up by 120%

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Welcome back Minigun Wrath gameplay

viral cliff
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why is raidbots showing my character with out a chest piece LOL

dapper wing
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Because fem nefl

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Let them tiddies fly. It increases your chance to dodge hits

wild dune
lucid olive
dapper wing
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Boomkin Changes
~Starsurge Removed
~Starfall Removed
~Wrath damage increased by 100%
~Lunar Calling buffed to 300%
~Starfire splash damage increased by 20%
~Astral bar when full plays a clown horn sound affect

vital hound
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I hope they fix this healing nonsense

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straight to jail

lucid olive
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Man it would be nice not to bear form in CDs

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Okay you won't bear form now and you also won't do any dam

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Damn the 2pc is kinda useless huh it would be nice if the dryad did some dam

vital hound
normal pilot
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it's ok now you know better

dapper wing
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Blizzard team "Heard, we are removing the option to go bearform when you spec into balance"

lucid olive
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Okay the dryad does some dam and the 4pc does no dam

normal pilot
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never ask for less damage it doesn't matter what exploit you're using to get it

lucid olive
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Real

normal pilot
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it's not your job to balance the game

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you're just here to do max dps

lofty depot
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yea imagine being ethical

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fucking stop that

lucid olive
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"hey we are thinking of pushing this change how would that look in a sim"

"here is a sim with those changes, this would effectively kill the spec do not do this"

"ok"

day after: "we pushed the nerf but also made it worse"

normal pilot
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equating ethical with helping a multi billion dollar comany you're paying a monthly due to get seom free labor

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is a logical leap you can make i guess

lofty depot
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funny pod caster "they cant really trust external sources for their validity"... but then ask for what it looks like... .but then ignore it anyway... haha get fucked

lucid olive
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Man imagine if we just didn't do any TCing during PTR and the original version of the tier set came out

lofty depot
lucid olive
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It would have been so fun

lofty depot
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sandbaggers grr

normal pilot
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it's what blizz has been telling players for years xpac and xpac patch after patch

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eventually you learn

dapper wing
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Lets just

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never test boomkin

lofty depot
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stop testing and ull be op

normal pilot
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no you test and report stuff that lowers your dps

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not testing doesn't mean you'll be good since it's just random what you get initially tuned at. could end up awful

dapper wing
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True but then no one will accuse us of sandbagging. Because there will be just no data

normal pilot
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sandbagging isn't a thing it doesn't matter if ppl accues you of it

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get accused and do max dps

nimble pier
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So when we shutting this discord down and raging for buffs??

dapper wing
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We aren't blizzards favorite child, it wouldn't work anyways

nimble pier
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Oops, better add /s…. but no really….

lofty depot
lucid olive
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We'll get buffs when my ele shaman is done gearing

dapper wing
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Same

lofty depot
dapper wing
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No that's feral

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We are the bug that is constantly getting shot at by those salt guns

lofty depot
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No, feral is the inside cat

normal pilot
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i can't wait for feral to be better all thru midnight too

lofty depot
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Don't say that

dapper wing
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Just give us a manabar back, make it so we go oom and jsut walk up and slap the boss for no damage

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Just truly take us out

lofty depot
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Stop talking

dapper wing
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haha

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IF we get a rework and mana is a resource again I will take full responsibility

lofty depot
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Empowerments> w.e the fuck ur cooking

quiet drift
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The shaftershifter class shall not shapeshift

lofty depot
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Well they did the same with feral using Moonkin form

lofty depot
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Were gonna add this shifting talent, but it's only for resto/bear

quiet drift
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You play the form you spec and if you go out of it will cost you 3globals

lofty depot
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Stop trying to minmax it

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Stop adding dogshit class talents when u should just add it to the spec tree

dapper wing
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Or

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Just fucking make it baseline

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We shouldn't have 4 different utilities we can't pick up at once because of these shitty talents

maiden pasture
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great class fantasy

lofty depot
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Make us like udyr

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Shifting into different aspects

dapper wing
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Remove all 4 specs of druid

lofty depot
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Surely that's fun

maiden pasture
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problem is that one be one spec

dapper wing
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It's all 1 spec now

lucid olive
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What do you think our apex talent is

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It's gonna alter Convoke isn't it

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I bet it is...

maiden pasture
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convoke is a channel...........

dapper wing
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Convoke ONLY casts Full Moons

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Giga

normal pilot
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idk the ones shown so far are actually low cd abilities

maiden pasture
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so

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foe and trees again

craggy sonnet
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does it have to be altering an already existing thing?

normal pilot
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could be moons

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or foe or tree ya

dapper wing
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Moons, Foe, Or Trees

normal pilot
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yes it looks like it's to be tied to an existing abilities

lucid olive
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Eclipse..

normal pilot
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so you won't have generic stuff like "20% more arcane damage"

dapper wing
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I will not speak this into existance...

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Fingers stopped half way through taht sentence

maiden pasture
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remove this dogshit eclipse system

quiet drift
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+1

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Is and always has been dogshit

normal pilot
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it's 1pt effect, then 2/2 passive, then 1pt effect

maiden pasture
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such a great system you made a fucking hero talent that deletes it from the class

lofty depot
lucid olive
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The hero talent is dogshit too

lofty depot
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maybe 2/4 or 3/4 makes it always crit

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the dev dh thing makes it like fdk

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where ur extending ur shit

craggy sonnet
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whatever it is

lofty depot
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WHY CANT WE DO IT

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WE USED TO

craggy sonnet
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they would have to change more in the spec tree

normal pilot
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i guess they could bring back original FOE

craggy sonnet
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unless you wanna accomodate choice nodes

lucid olive
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They did show some apex talents and stuff already but they haven't shown moonkin

dapper wing
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Make Foe twilight Dev

normal pilot
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the one where you're constantly draining AP

craggy sonnet
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with the apex talents

lucid olive
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Which is a positive

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Means we're not the first ones out

maiden pasture
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echo need to sleep man

lofty depot
maiden pasture
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this boss aint dying anytime soon, it aint worth it

dapper wing
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FOE turns into a Twilight Dev, constantly feeding astral power into it

maiden pasture
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yeah echo called it

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makes sense

dapper wing
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method has like a day and a half of prog left till kill

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Just go to bed

lucid olive
craggy sonnet
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in theory it could also be adding a new passive, yea?

dapper wing
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kill it tomorrow

craggy sonnet
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like lets say pulsar type things

normal pilot
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it's different devs

maiden pasture
lucid olive
dapper wing
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Apex talent gives us pulsar again

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lol

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at 300

normal pilot
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so the one that adds it wouldn't know why the one that removed it did that

lofty depot
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well depends if apex talent is suppose to effect ur cds or ur main ability

normal pilot
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i don't think there's a guideline

maiden pasture
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fel barrage is the same style of draining it just ramps really quickly in how much in drains

normal pilot
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so far the ones that were shown all affect rotational ability

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but each dev can do w/e the fuck he or she wants

dapper wing
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Lets just hope ours cooks

#

And doesn't burn it

craggy sonnet
#

like for our current tree its really awkward

cinder flume
#

aoe (5 target patchwerk)
5 min
EC

two passive trinkets simming better than Ara'z, is there any caveat to this, or should I just ditch the active one ?

craggy sonnet
#

cause all of our cd stuff is on choice nodes

normal pilot
#

they'll move taletns around

#

they always reshuffle for xpac

lucid olive
#

Judging by the 1 screenshot of a KOTG tree they're removing Control

#

Big W

dapper wing
#

Which one is control?

craggy sonnet
#

what tree

#

that was an old one

normal pilot
#

there's no screenshot

lofty depot
#

well, theres 4 columns in the tree not 3

normal pilot
#

ya you got baited

craggy sonnet
#

that wowhead just dug up

lofty depot
#

that screen shot is old

lucid olive
#

Let me cope

#

There isn't a 4th lane in it so of course it's old

lofty depot
#

i already did the research

#

sorry

normal pilot
#

if they're lazy they could just shove the tier sets into the 4th column

maiden pasture
craggy sonnet
dapper wing
#

Oh

craggy sonnet
#

this is what the new thingy looks like

lofty depot
dapper wing
#

that's what they meant when 4th column

lofty depot
#

or well maybe 1/4 or 4/4

normal pilot
#

apex is spec talent, not hero talent

maiden pasture
#

can they go back to old talents already man

normal pilot
#

it's not in a column of anything, it's just standalone

lofty depot
#

1/4 = the 4p

4/4 = it splashes or some shit at 1/2 the cap, capped to 3 targets or some shit

craggy sonnet
#

well kotg tier is not really linked to kotg at all

#

so it could work in theory

lofty depot
#

add some funny 2/4 = it always crits
3/4 = it doesnt cost asp

lucid olive
#

Just have it be Pulsar man who cares

lofty depot
#

imagine

normal pilot
#

apex is spec tho, so it would be the same for kotg/ec

craggy sonnet
#

yea

dapper wing
#

Make our apex just pulsar, make it boring but fine

normal pilot
#

so can't put the tier set there

craggy sonnet
#

so?

#

kotg tier works for either

normal pilot
#

or well i guess they can

dapper wing
#

300 astral Pulsar.

potent cargo
#

can't wait to see how they add 4th columsn to trees/foe KEK

craggy sonnet
#

nothing about it is bound to trees

potent cargo
#

will be dogshit

normal pilot
#

but that would mean it's tied to CA

potent cargo
#

no creativity to be had

craggy sonnet
#

yea

normal pilot
#

and tehre are far easier shit they can move into a CA node

#

CA 2/2 UG effect, INC

craggy sonnet
#

but maybe they thought the funnel idea was actually neat

#

and can deliver on it

lofty depot
#

ahh true

lucid olive
#

Mmm put current tier set into keeper hero tree and put Pulsar as apex node

craggy sonnet
#

instead of pooping the bed

lucid olive
#

Now that's gameplay

lofty depot
#

thats big gameplay

#

im jacked thinking about it

normal pilot
#

i don't think thye even thought of kotg set as funnel

maiden pasture
#

if we come full circle to pulsar btw i will officialy quit this spec forever out of rage at the devs

craggy sonnet
#

they prolly had to after seeing what ungodly things people did with it

normal pilot
#

idk

lofty depot
#

now when its not that, im gonna be sad

normal pilot
#

i think that's giving them too much credit

dapper wing
#

Same. If I don't see Pulsar as my apex I'm going to be sad

maiden pasture
#

storing damage into starsurges when the dryad casts a starfall had to be thought of as funnel

craggy sonnet
#

but yea, i would be down to get something akin to current 4p

dapper wing
#

What starfall damage?

#

The completely unbuffed starfall that doesn't do a single thing. Lol thanks for gained 20k damage

normal pilot
#

pulsar seems more likely

lofty depot
#

3/4 makes starfall a cd but u can cast in it

maiden pasture
#

stellar drift would be banger to bring back

normal pilot
#

1: OS, 2/2: pulsar, 4: inc

maiden pasture
#

such a nice raid talent

normal pilot
#

that woudl be an easy "win"

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

that math aint mathing

craggy sonnet
#

what is OS?

normal pilot
#

ppl loved os + pulsar during prepatch

#

orbital strike

lucid olive
#

Operating system

craggy sonnet
#

ohh f me

dapper wing
#

^

lucid olive
#

He wants Windows spec

normal pilot
#

the other whirling stars node that nobody takes

craggy sonnet
#

yea yea

maiden pasture
craggy sonnet
#

i havent thought about it in a while

normal pilot
#

ya nobody has

#

it had a chance to be used then pvp killed it

obsidian jetty
#

orbit strike has a satisfying visual is why I loved it

lofty depot
#

so do u

obsidian jetty
#

seeing it happen more than once every 2m was great

normal pilot
#

ya during prepatch hwen it proced with pulsar

lucid olive
#

Can you imagine the timeline if they had gone through with the change in 10.2 PTR and made OS its own ability in choice node with Mushroom

craggy sonnet
#

knowing how often evoker breath stuff gets stuck on stupid terrain shit

#

idk if i wanna deal with OS

lucid olive
dapper wing
#

OS is fine, you jsut have to get used to it

craggy sonnet
#

no, dont think so

lucid olive
#

I loved sending OS up the wall in Mists

lofty depot
#

love trying to send OS at rash and it not going off

dapper wing
#

Mhmhm. I love hitting my OS upwards on something and it just not going off

lofty depot
#

very cool

dapper wing
#

YEAH

#

lol

obsidian jetty
#

we already gotta deal with that shit with treants

dapper wing
#

make it so it fires directly at your target and ends a bit behind it or something

lucid olive
#

If you ever facepalmed watching your treants get stuck on a wall imagine sending your laser up a wall behind you because that's where your camera is

craggy sonnet
#

i started 11.0 as resto and only swapped to boomie after .5 or whatever added whirling

obsidian jetty
#

on the boss were we're chained together with others, my trees always end up stuck on top of the fuckin wall behind us

craggy sonnet
#

no yea

#

thats why im saying

lucid olive
craggy sonnet
#

i dont really want to have to deal with that shit

lofty depot
#

except im tilted

dapper wing
#

lol

obsidian jetty
#

or on the boss in halls with the canisters, treants just not going off because the invisible wall behind you is covering your screen

craggy sonnet
#

but i kinda like the idea of a non scuffed current 4p

lofty depot
dapper wing
#

There are ways to make OS not suck balls targetting wise, blizzard would just have to do it

lucid olive
#

Resto did clankz dirty

obsidian jetty
#

the pulsar one was easy tho because it just shot like 15yrds infront of you

#

so you just aimed your char

normal pilot
#

ya

dapper wing
#

yeah make it fire like sindragosa

craggy sonnet
#

did they now?

dapper wing
#

15-20yrds infront of you

normal pilot
#

somehow they made it work well

#

and then it was completely gone after prepatch

#

never to be seen again

lucid olive
#

That patch was so sick

#

Truly the best of times

#

Snapshotting mushrooms in RF

#

Convoke for stacks

dapper wing
#

The one node I never want to play ever again, active mushrooms

#

please god no

normal pilot
#

haha yeah you'd pull entire trash room before halondrus

#

pop rf shroom melt everything solo

lucid olive
#

Play NF leggo with EG and have 30 sec CD Convoke

lofty depot
#

wild mushroms my goat

dapper wing
#

10.0 mushrooms hurt me to play

obsidian jetty
#

that prepatch was forsure the best version of boomy I've played since wrath and nothing comes close for me. Maybe the time we had the cast while moving starfall on the ground procs from the class trinket. That was also a fun boomy raid

lucid olive
#

L mushrooms are great

dapper wing
#

I was ALSO shit at boomkin so maybe my opinion would change now that I'm not as shit but still shit

normal pilot
#

nah you just didn't play prepatch shroom with RF

lucid olive
#

Snapshot mushrooms on Raszageth too

#

Pop at end of shield phase with dmg amp and snapshot the dot for pure boss dam

potent cargo
#

I miss rf bring it back man

obsidian jetty
#

I remember intentionally removing the increase CA duration with x number of pulsar prepull so I could proc pulsar the second CA fell off at like 20s into frenzy so I could tripple mushroom with boat active into surges with burn window

#

that was also sick

lucid olive
#

I went back a few weeks ago and looked at my Sepulcher kill videos

#

Pressed CA on pull and it had 45 seconds duration

#

And 300 stack Pulsar

dapper wing
#

I wish I played 300 pulsar

lucid olive
#

Well AP gen was also much lower

#

And Starsurge was 30

obsidian jetty
#

yea psure it was about the same

#

they just reworked the numbers

lucid olive
#

It was still the same cadence

#

They just increases Pulsar and AP costs because the new talents gave us a lot more gen

obsidian jetty
#

maybe it went from like 35s avg to 40-50s

true viper
#

balance not looking too hot bro my ass been on feral this season

lucid olive
#

And now over an expansion layer and the gen doesn't matter cause generators do more dam than spenders

dapper wing
#

Truth

#

I swear they just don't know what to do with us

obsidian jetty
#

they just have a problem balancing starfall ong

lofty depot
obsidian jetty
#

it's time to just rework it again

true viper
#

nexus king im in

lofty depot
#

big

true viper
#

idk about last

lofty depot
#

clearly they dont know they have a boomkin

obsidian jetty
#

gona need 2 after reset

true viper
obsidian jetty
#

maybe even 4

dapper wing
#

Balance: High

#

This is so unfortuante lol. I just can't BE benched. Dragging this raid team down one fight at a time

lofty depot
#

hey i know gecko

potent cargo
#

or play feral like krona does

dapper wing
#

Despair

#

Extra Despair

#

I can't play energy classes to save my fucking life

#

It's just so fucking foreign to me

dry compass
#

whos good with plater in here

dapper wing
#

I'm good at paying krona to give me his

dry compass
#

very helpful thanks myth

true viper
#

jundies

dapper wing
#

Actually eah I think I'm using jundies atm

dry compass
#

i have jundies this is not a profile issue xd

dapper wing
#

What's the issue?

dry compass
#

i stg i cant click on bars half the time

#

like mouse is over bar, i click, it doesnt target

#

i THINK it's because the dot trackers on other bars aren't click through

#

but i dont know how to test

compact ledge
#

anyone have a good weakaurafor 4pc

dapper wing
#

Your gonna have to just pin this at this point

#

lol

lofty depot
compact ledge
#

ty arctic

lofty depot
#

or use OiBalance pack cuz its clearly better than what ur using

dapper wing
#

Just get someone to pin it lolz

compact ledge
#

im too lazy to replace atrocui

lofty depot
#

its on my clipboard right now

lofty depot
#

u just import it

dapper wing
#

EZ

lofty depot
#

last tier i imported it and the sizing was completely fine

#

this tier i had to change the names

#

but it was easy

compact ledge
#

oh ive used that pack before, i dont like it vmuch.

lofty depot
#

@stone ledge oi bruv, did ur 2nd warrior get sat for a specific reason besides no dam

lucid olive
quiet drift
#

"ress my innervate" Despair

lofty depot
#

my mw never asks for innervate

#

he says he has infinite mana

craggy sonnet
compact ledge
upper anvil
#

whats the general rotation with the 4p in raid?

quiet drift
#

4pc only changes your CD window

lofty depot
#

outside of that its the same

lofty depot
#

YE

stone ledge
#

they apply to your guild?

lofty depot
#

(no not at all i would not leak that info ever)

digital berry
#

Air some dirty laundry

upper anvil
#

after testing this 4p set in 1 meh key and trianing dummy this feels not the best smh

lofty depot
#

well he didnt say why he wants to leave so i was like fuck it

digital berry
#

Always fishy when someone doesn’t say why they are leaving their previous guild

dapper wing
#

Yah

errant flint
#

How many stacks of Gathering Moonline can I gather at a time?

#

Guessing I should FoE after max stacks?

#

Obligatory: buff ST

dapper wing
#

6 max

#

Just rip for

#

Foe

stone ledge
lofty depot
#

yea made sense

#

thats what it looked like anyweay

stone ledge
#

i am a mere trial so i lack crutial information

lofty depot
#

tragic

digital berry
#

Damn I’ve never had a crossover between my guilds and dg

#

The drama potential

lofty depot
#

big drama

potent cargo
#

thats like oce guild recruitment lmfao

#

anyone applying to a guild will have 10 people saying something about them

digital berry
#

I wonder what my guild would say about me

#

Probably just call me greedy and horny

potent cargo
#

lovely fellow

digital berry
#

@hollow raft ?

#

Officer sleeping probably Classic

dry compass
digital berry
#

It’s not even on gcd you have no grounds for complaint

errant flint
#

I just play favortism with Innervate

#

We dont assign PI so I get to favor my innervates

dapper wing
#

Just innervate yourself

digital berry
#

Not assigning pi is wild work

errant flint
#

We currently have 2-3 to give out

digital berry
stone ledge
errant flint
#

So the priests make ppl pay lol

#

A good chunk of gold to be made per night

lofty depot
digital berry
#

Good is wild

lofty depot
#

(its fine)

#

u just should use 2 gcds

digital berry
#

Yeah he just cancelled early

stone ledge
#

i did beg

digital berry
#

It’s silly to stress over a wrath in ca

lofty depot
#

wow not helping out hte raid killing orbs

digital berry
#

Just cancel dryad early and move if you mess up

lofty depot
#

kinda toxic

stone ledge
#

okay so that was a full convo

digital berry
#

If you have to help your raid on balance your raid is trolling

#

Ain’t no way

lofty depot
#

i kid

#

im done

digital berry
#

Losing so much dps

stone ledge
#

nah we just had so many people hard swapping including locks

digital berry
#

Locks and elly just explode them

stone ledge
#

i was swapping in early pulls til they got it

lofty depot
#

lucky

digital berry
#

Yeah same

#

It’s just so hard to swap cause you have to spend 2 gcds dotting

lofty depot
#

i end up killing first far one

digital berry
#

And if the net dies you just suicide

lofty depot
#

snipe it to like 70%

stone ledge
#

it 'probably' would be more damage dotting far one and throwing 1 starfall

digital berry
#

In Minecraft

#

Don’t they have like 80 mill hp?

stone ledge
#

i gotta be more liberal with my bear forms in p2

digital berry
#

Bear form soaks should be enough no

stone ledge
#

that and the explosion from the knockback

stone ledge
#

it does feel so bad

lofty depot
#

and i only dot far one

digital berry
#

Gamz was spamming that shit wasn’t he

#

Or was it maya

stone ledge
#

let me check what the degens are doing for r1 on prog rq

urban crescent
#

Do you run kindling on loom? Is it even worth starfalling

digital berry
#

Absolutely no

lofty depot
#

r1 isnt sending on orbs prob

#

its kinda toxic

urban crescent
#

Yeah i let the warlocks one bang it and i greed methinks

digital berry
#

We shouldn’t even switch in the first place

lofty depot
digital berry
#

Just slam the boss and pray for buffs

stone ledge
lofty depot
#

yea he aint doing shit

urban crescent
#

Is that dryad starfall

stone ledge
#

0 cast

#

yea

urban crescent
#

Based

digital berry
#

707 ilvl damn

#

He eating good

stone ledge
#

'i helped'

urban crescent
#

I got the go ahead to swap evoker do i just send it or prayge for buffs on chicken

digital berry
#

I can’t bring myself to play evoker

digital berry
#

Standing there channeling just doesn’t seem fun

urban crescent
#

Evoker is fun

#

Dragonrage very fun cd

digital berry
#

It doesn’t do shit tho

#

Like

#

Both visually and gameplay wise it really doesn’t feel impactful

#

Elly has insanely impactful cds

stone ledge
digital berry
#

Or like demo

urban crescent
#

Demo is fun also

#

I played it in nerubar

stone ledge
#

im 708 without jastor

night gulch
stone ledge
#

goaat

night gulch
#

don't tell my rl, he might crash out

stone ledge
#

did they die?

#

say less

night gulch
#

thats what im saying

lofty depot
#

this was our best pull

#

i was infact not ignoring

#

i feel like i shouldnt be this high

night gulch
#

you're too ethical

#

you shouldn't be, your ele sham is trolling

urban crescent
#

Oh right ele is cracked atm

#

Wouldnt mind one

night gulch
#

this is our breakdown, our ele sham cranked

urban crescent
#

Ele reroll angle???

night gulch
#

they're actually giga strong, its insane

urban crescent
#

878k dps

#

What fight is that

night gulch
#

loomithar

#

its damage to the tangles

urban crescent
#

Ahhhh

#

Thats crazy what the fuck lmao

night gulch
#

yeah actually just demolishing those things with the warlocks

urban crescent
#

Hpal out damaging the ww

night gulch
#

and the fury lol

urban crescent
#

Based hpal

night gulch
#

they were dying in time so our rl didn't look too closely but i imagine if we wiped he would not have been too happy

urban crescent
#

Yea for sure

stone ledge
#

this was ours

dapper wing
#

we love tangle damage

#

swapping targets

#

so much fun

stone ledge
#

w mechs

urban crescent
#

Balance literal bottom at 95th percentile

#

Time to shut down the discord fellas

grave raft
#

If EU puts in the work, they might be able to beat the Chinese guild to a Dimensius kill.

stone ledge
#

Its bottom til 30th percentile then its barely beating Aug the rest of the way down homie

dapper wing
#

yeah...

flint stratus
lofty depot
#

first we need to tackle some things

#

when u get 4p ull want to change stat prio

#

also, when gemming, ull likely use 4 color

#

ur currently not

#

2nd why are we in pseudo aoe talents

lofty depot
#

so the tree placement is currently fine

odd pike
#

How’s the stat prio change when 4p I missed this somewhere? What’s highest prio

lofty depot
#

well mastery is still, but u dont like haste

#

ur having to move an awful lot

#

v

#

idk why theres a gap here when ur off gcd

#

with ur current non-4p, u should be sending trees then ca

#

u seem to always want to spend

#

u seem to want to get to like 80 asp then spend instantly

#
  1. u dont send CA here u should be holding it
  2. u dont send CA without trees
#
  1. thought process wise you spent all ur asp then pressed a cd which incease the damage of those spells
#

and then right u have ur convoke here with no ca or trees

#

ur goal is to use ur cds together

#

ur basically hitting them all on cd

past iron
#

Do u always have to send ur tree with CA because thats not what it says icy veins and other peoples logs do

#

Its every first 3rd 5th etc....

jaunty blaze
#

You send trees in between ca aswell

past iron
#

Yes and if u see rank 1 druid lets say first boss he also sends his 2nd CA without tree

lofty depot
#
  1. stop reading icy veins
  2. if ur trying to compare peoples logs currently its gonna be different cuz the sequencing changes with new tier
jaunty blaze
#

You double ca at the start

#

With new 4pc

lofty depot
#

but the difference there is that ur using that ca to empower things

#

currently ur sending cds without each other

#

which we dont do

past iron
lofty depot
#

no

#

not with new tier

#

but the 2nd CA thing isnt because of that

#

you use it for the buffed surges

#

but your other CAs are wrong as well

jaunty blaze
#

Check the dreamgrove guide ideally

lofty depot
#

like ur not overlapping cds

past iron
#

In m+ is it the same gamestyle as last patch when u have 4set?

lofty depot
#

ec wise, yes mostly

jaunty blaze
#

Mostly yes

lofty depot
#

u gain a stacking buff for ur foe

past iron
#

But make sure u have astral power when u incarn

lofty depot
#

but u generally jsut send

#

yes, but u also need to make sure u dont have asp when casting starfire

#

so ur 2p will proc

past iron
#

Is therr a new buff we have to track?

dapper wing
#

tbh, you would probably gain zero value on tracking it

lofty depot
#

yes

delicate perch
#

Weakauras for casuals so

dapper wing
#

outside of knowing if you have to send it in like a second for a pack or a boss

delicate perch
#

Just look at the screen or

past iron
#

Ye ye jst got 4set yesterday didnt read much into it

dapper wing
#

Dopamine I guess on sending a 6 stacker for 24% more damage

#

that's fun

past iron
#

Rerolled to druid when i hit 4set

lofty depot
#

should probably do that

#

rerolled

#

tragic

dapper wing
#

Oh...

past iron
#

But noticed rotation in raid is abit diff than last patch

dapper wing
#

why would you do that

delicate perch
#

Lmfao

#

That’s a choice for sure

past iron
#

Well druids in m+ r not bad no?

dapper wing
#

Not that bad no

lofty depot
#

not great

delicate perch
#

Not bad, but also not last season good either

dapper wing
#

Definetely not last season