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ionic oak
Yeah MM took big hit
lofty depot
Then u can get to the bottom of it
eager raft
just because youre raging doesnt mean im baiting it
bronze quail
Read the pin
I have. I have also seen EC doing like 5m
ionic oak
But MM ahead of us still
digital berry
5m on a target dummy is not 5m in raid
lofty depot
I have. I have also seen EC doing like 5m
Ok, but casting a 2s Starfire in raid ur just gonna have downtime and canceled casts
bronze quail
Warrior sims were terrible for S1, yet Fury was clapping meters in raid because of adds.
Sims are sims.
lofty depot
So that 5m gonna turn to 4.7 real fast
dense steeple
and thats assuming youre perfect
eager raft
Ok, but casting a 2s Starfire in raid ur just gonna have downtime and canceled c...
sounding suspiciously like a skill issue
ionic oak
Yall just dont see Dareals vision
lofty depot
sounding suspiciously like a skill issue
U PLAY HUNTER
solemn idol
Not even trying with the trolling 🙁
maiden beacon
I will still play grove
bronze quail
Yall just dont see Dareals vision
I have no vision.
lofty depot
so is boomkin below rogue or smth
Ye
royal zenith
lofty depot
The healers
eager raft
<a:Classic:1115740226476855448>
cry babies right?
eternal monolith
the floor
solemn idol
enh totemic prob
lofty depot
Nop
eternal monolith
nope
digital berry
nah fr are we memeing
nope
royal zenith
what answer do you want to hear
royal zenith
yeah
leaden birch
let me progress through these stages organically
eager raft
id like an objective answer and not an emotional one
ionic oak
You just late tot he party bruv
leaden birch
but where was EC?
lucid olive
nah
leaden birch
lucid olive
EC is like
royal zenith
that's dogshit
lucid olive
5.1
ionic oak
Lol
digital berry
take 200/300k off of ec sim
leaden birch
still above rogue right?
ionic oak
Just buy PI duh
leaden birch
loud kettle
Rogues undersim since the dawn of time
royal zenith
loud kettle
dont think they know why it undersims just that it does
lofty depot
Rogues undersim since the dawn of time
Would u say that's sandbagging or
loud kettle
well i dont think its intentional
wary berry
their api writers just suck
loud kettle
(Its not intentional)
dense steeple
its def the writers
royal zenith
how a fight is designed also just also affect your actual output either way
wary berry
they need to cook some shit up like 90% soul gathering that havoc DHs use to pad their sims
royal zenith
destro warlocks also sim low by nature of the spec
loud kettle
Well destro is simming very high rn so
loud kettle
Ya
lofty depot
destro warlocks also sim low by nature of the spec
Why is it at 6.2 then... Hm
royal zenith
probably ye
lucid olive
still above rogue right?
okay you should not aim to be above the other dogshit classes
ionic oak
Love to see others live your dreams
lucid olive
"damn i did really bad in this marathon, but at least i beat this kid in a wheelchair"
maiden beacon
well i dont think its intentional
i mean
its not intentional at all can confirm
but
outlaw has some positive bugs that arent being fixed/reported
but even if it was reported, its likely wont be fixed
loud kettle
surely its in sim then?
normal pilot
rogues prolly aren't as actively mainttained anymore
eager raft
you should aim to be above the middle performing specs
doesnt matter where i aim, i have no control over balancing
normal pilot
but that's possible for any spec
ionic oak
And ours?
royal zenith
actively maintained
ionic oak
Hmmmmmm?!
normal pilot
calling apl writers suck is a dumbass take
leaden birch
okay you should not aim to be above the other dogshit classes
I'm a cup half full kinda guy yk
loud kettle
Real
normal pilot
every speci n wow is hanging by a thread, balance included
royal zenith
yeah
lucid olive
i suck
normal pilot
if oi and gamz stopped playing blaance would have no sims
royal zenith
I dont think you should be insulting those that are trying to make an effort
lofty depot
I live all apl writers, except for the ones I hate
lofty depot
Which are none of course
dense steeple
the only people i hate are the boomkin class dev
solemn idol
It's ok theyll get somewhere with all the specs and tuning by the Last Titan. Right?
dense steeple
he need to do his job gooder
ionic oak
he need to do his job gooder
Its an intern
sudden flame
me too bud me too
remember when i tried 💀
crisp topaz
Its an intern
Thought we established that its the janitor
loud kettle
remember when i tried 💀
im sure you would've figured it out
ionic oak
Thought we established that its the janitor
Yeah. An intern janitor. Not fully employed yet
ionic oak
Thats crazy what if the dev is in this discord. Reading this. And we are hurting their feelings. Damn im a dick
loud kettle
I like dms from people asking how to do apl stuff (if theyre trying to do it/learn)
Not that it happens often
lofty depot
Gonna start dming crazy
lucid olive
I like dms from people asking how to do apl stuff (if theyre trying to do it/lea...
shoutout @pallid bay for this too
lofty depot
So it happens often
lucid olive
think me and Oi have like 4000 DMs back and forth
like 3500 of those are just him teaching me APL
loud kettle
Gonna start dming crazy
hmm
lofty depot
Must be nice, sune just yells at me
ionic oak
Oi is cool. Sune is mean though
ionic oak
Dsune though. Chill
normal pilot
prolly see about getting a simc/apl chan or making another server for midnight alpha for ppl to coordinate/learn. otherwise nothing's gonna get done/fixed
ionic oak
… heroic week
loud kettle
Druid won't have any changes on midnight alpha anyway
lofty depot
A 2nd lesser tc discord?
loud kettle
ez
lofty depot
Pog
maiden beacon
surely its in sim then?
whispyr tries his best
royal zenith
not TC
maiden beacon
to add everything he cans to sin sim
digital berry
bro i got dungeon deserter after leaving a TW when someone alredy left wtf
royal zenith
it's sharing info and teaching each other how to apl
what you do with said info is up to you
lofty depot
Sounds like tc
royal zenith
and TC
normal pilot
ya you don't need a TC discord, TC practially doesn't happen these days
maiden beacon
outlaw is also does its best, but mostly cause these bugs are only known by highend players and theyre not talking cause it involves degen things
fossil hemlock
Druid won't have any changes on midnight alpha anyway
Same thing will happen as always, we'll be first on the showcase and then have no work done on us and we'll release in that same state
lofty depot
I missed tww alpha
royal zenith
yeah its fair to not add degen things
lofty depot
Midnight alpha were gonna bang
royal zenith
need to keep it accessible
maiden beacon
ive been bamboozled
royal zenith
gottem
scarlet tapir
@royal zenith what would mogushan vault rwf comp look like
loud kettle
yeah its fair to not add degen things
Depends how playable it is
scarlet tapir
in your head
loud kettle
If its degenerate but easy? It should be in there
normal pilot
it's just w/e the community wants
royal zenith
<@182925977935020032> what would mogushan vault rwf comp look like
Im not well-versed in the world of classic..
I got good sources, I can ask
scarlet tapir
Im not well-versed in the world of classic..
did u think something similar to this?
normal pilot
ppl comparing sims across classes are being dumb and misuing the tools
normal pilot
nothing you can do about that
sudden flame
If its degenerate but easy? It should be in there
the lycaras meditation apl 
royal zenith
If its degenerate but easy? It should be in there
yea
loud kettle
the lycaras meditation apl <:Despairge:1182368258607816704>
Ngl this was mostly just to get the talent deleted
royal zenith
but we're talking adding starlord cancelling for 0.1%
sudden flame
and it worked 
lucid olive
ya you don't need a TC discord, TC practially doesn't happen these days
the TC discord is just rwf and mdi players getting information before everyone else anyway
and then DMing me or Sune asking us about the same APL questions we get asked in here
mental plover
if oi and gamz stopped playing blaance would have no sims
How does raidbots works on supporting the specs sims? Considering that people can pay for the service, are there paid devs, is it community work or both?
normal pilot
raidbots doesn't support anything
it just provides a cloud server to run simc
simc itself is free & open source
mental plover
Ahh
lucid olive
you can build simc locally if you want to run sims on your own PC
mental plover
Unpaid labor then
normal pilot
raidbot itself has nothign to do with simc other than just letting yo urun it
lucid olive
its just a lot worse UI
loud kettle
I dont have to pay for raidbots though, just get the highest tier for free
lucid olive
same
lofty depot
Expert tings
normal pilot
oh are you guys using that
lucid olive
yes
thats why its also funny when RWF players tell us to keep stuff secret from the competition
cause its a public account
loud kettle
but i pay anyway
I was doing this as well, but my personal account has been upgraded and is free too
So id have to make a new account to pay for it
pseudo gyro
what are the trinkets for boomy (m+) in 11.2 so far?
lucid olive
araz forge
pseudo gyro
ty
lucid olive
yes i know
diamantite voidcore, signet, lily of eternal weave, the dawnbreaker crystal, sacbrood, soleah
all okay trinkets too
normal pilot
what about antenna
pseudo gyro
oh i just realized that was 1 trinket , ye u got me
lofty depot
Lams baited u
sudden flame
ive not even heard of that trinket
lucid olive
for sure someone gonna call that propecia
atomic sand
Do you think the boomie will be back to normal before the start of the raid?
loud kettle
ive not even heard of that trinket
Its a caster trinket
lofty depot
Wouldn't hold ur breath
loud kettle
From eco bloom iirc
lucid olive
ive not even heard of that trinket
loud kettle
Yea sacbrood but named differently
Just know that its basically a bugs foot ur carrying around
Fitting for a moonkin ig
iron chasm
Damn If we use that and sacbrood we’d be some kind of bug king
iron chasm
Lord of the bugs
royal zenith
ew
iron chasm
Sounds pretty cool hey deux
royal zenith
hello
merry ibex
EC in raid just sounds so....bad
sick laurel
what is the ST sims for EC in raid ?
lofty depot
5.04
round field
(ur never hitting sim dps)
lofty depot
But u should take off like 200-300k because of down time
jaunty cliff
can we remove this bar from our interface?
pallid bay
shoutout <@148552191874039808> for this too
wish more people showed interest but people perceive barrier of entry too high i think
lucid olive
wish more people showed interest but people perceive barrier of entry too high i...
think some people might want to ask about it but they think they're bothering the person
i fall under that too sometimes
ionic oak
can we remove this bar from our interface?
Yes. Stance Bar
lucid olive
think every 5 DM to Jundarer has been "sorry to bother you"
lofty depot
I don't want to bother sune
lucid olive
i do
normal pilot
we'll see if new chan/server helps with 12.0
lofty depot
I feel dumb while talking to him aswell
royal zenith
that's why a discord/channel like gas mentioned is a very good idea
cause it allows you to read back on shit at your own pace
lucid olive
I hope we just get a new channel in here tbh
royal zenith
share common questions etc.
lofty depot
Would be a lot of engagement prob
royal zenith
by the same people ye
gentle scroll
I just like reading inside-baseball stuff
gentle scroll
You dont want me in those converstations 
loud kettle
youd be surprised
royal zenith
true
loud kettle
it is extremely easy to miss something obvious if ur at it alone
the basis of peer-editing
gentle scroll
I think in programming thats called pair programing
loud kettle
similar idea yea
lucid olive
it is extremely easy to miss something obvious if ur at it alone
ye
also having other peoples ideas about shit like
maiden pasture
wish more people showed interest but people perceive barrier of entry too high i...
Make a README on how to get into writing APLs 
pallid bay
canexx has a good guide to start
pallid bay
I just read the wiki a million times
simc wiki is probably my most searched term in july
loud kettle
i have it favorited
pallid bay
same 
loud kettle
cute little button
lucid olive
i just open new tab and write "act" and it autofills to that page
loud kettle
https://dontasktoask.com/ also have this favorited
lucid olive
i have compendium bookmarked and thats about it
pallid bay
its hidden here so i always forget
lucid olive
i have this in my discord in a server
but nobody except @vital hound is in that discord so
lucid olive
he's just the only one who's clicked the link
or well, another guy did
but he never talked
and then there's some irl friends who also never talks
lucid olive
i love sheep
lucid olive
overall supportive and nice guy
livid jay
????
loud kettle
ur too late
royal zenith
♻️
loud kettle
that was posted in here hours ago
royal zenith
so late
livid jay
lmao was out just saw
pallid bay
Is that acceptable use for AI?
AI sucks for WA
99% of info about it is in discord servers they havnt scraped
lofty depot
Grok knew enough lua to help
Then again I could've asked u for the weakaura but I didn't want to bother u
mighty mica
Is that acceptable use for AI?
no
lofty depot
Damn
vital hound
but nobody except <@126112819476168705> is in that discord so
YOZA
rain pebble
lmao grok
lofty depot
Yea get mad about that
mighty mica
Yea get mad about that
lofty depot
Alexa, thyme is domestic abusing
orchid roost
Is we use the stellar flare next season?
orchid roost
Ok good ty
delicate perch
Nope, you have to
stone ledge
Stellar nope
delicate perch
Wait nevermind that’s a Druid spell, no one’s using it dw
meager storm
wuh
delicate perch
was it a dream
Just go back to sleep 
meager storm
oh good one
stone ledge
W info
meager storm
well it doesnt mean its 99 parsing its just that they are fucking using the obr thingy to see if its a nerf or not 
right
stone ledge
Someone @ him please lord save us
digital berry
tettles save us go to max stream
do not interact with that boomy hater
he is probably happy as can be
dense steeple
he almost cried on stream last night when he learned the fate
meager storm
tettles save us
dont late dorki talk
he prob doesnt know half of what we have been through
yeah we are cooked
lets pray he is tapped in with the changes
nova ocean
he almost cried on stream last night when he learned the fate
Clip it
nova ocean
Dorki is definitely not in touch with changes
digital berry
kalamazi needs to be put down
lucid olive
dorki the known moonkin guy
lofty depot
lucid olive
kalamazi needs to be put down
chill out
dense steeple
kalamazi does it as a bit
dense steeple
he will
stone ledge
It’s pretty bad when the bit has become his online personality tho
dense steeple
It’s pretty bad when the bit has become his online personality tho
i dont disagree
but hes also def not serious
stone ledge
Like I didn’t even know who he was til I heard he just sandbags warlock to s tier
chrome sable
@meager storm get hyped for azortharion rant
meager storm
well i think its also the lock dev just loving lock being top of the meters
azor said mm is dead bit its still almost simming 5.5
stone ledge
And the balance dev is taking balance and throwing it out the window
nova ocean
Should all the devs love that
chrome sable
azor said mm is dead bit its still almost simming 5.5
its dead relatively to other hunter specs ig
is the point
nova ocean
I don't know why you would be a dev with the goal of making a shit class
chrome sable
no its not? xd
stone ledge
I don't know why you would be a dev with the goal of making a shit class
Wanting a pay raise or moving to another department soon
stone ledge
Thin air aka hunter discord
chrome sable
well if bm sims 100k more than MM there is no reason to ever justify play MM sadly
meager storm
well mm is way more bursty
chrome sable
way more rng too
meager storm
and last 2 bosses got amp so
stone ledge
Remember the oh our spec is so volatile and shared sims range 300k
pallid bay
azor said mm is dead bit its still almost simming 5.5
people in here said the same about boomie when we were simming 5.5
chrome sable
whats current boomie sim
meager storm
people in here said the same about boomie when we were simming 5.5
just arctic
pallid bay
could maybe up keeper 100k
lofty depot
just arctic
i actively said it was fine at that
pallid bay
but there's no one motivated to do so
meager storm
most of us were pretty happy with the 5.5
lofty depot
ur fucking high
chrome sable
5.2 as EC maybe
yikes
meager storm
i actively said it was fine at that
idk too many people saying u were the doomer
rich jewel
well mm is way more bursty
doesnt mm need boss above 80 or below 20
pallid bay
ur fucking high
mikiq disagrees
rich jewel
neither seem to happen on last 2 amps
lofty depot
mike doesnt play the game
scarlet tapir
if dorki sends a "they were bugged with the hp cap"
wdwhos this corki guy
pallid bay
mikiq is a hunter player
lofty depot
idk who that is
pallid bay
yeah we always sandbag
pallid bay
(abuse any bug to do infinite damage on PTR and receive insane nerfs afterwards)
chrome sable
✅
meager storm
just smooth brain individuals
gilded wolf
pallid bay
why is this guy talking about meta comps
loud kettle
Sandbag (do as much damage as possible)
meager storm
why is this guy talking about meta comps
regarded 🥀
lofty depot
ellesmere know meta player
tiny wagon
Does anyone know what stats are on our tier pieces for next patch? Trying to figure out what tier piece will be a crafted one
lofty depot
Does anyone know what stats are on our tier pieces for next patch? Trying to fig...
u craft bracer belt
tiny wagon
will we replace titan disc?
lofty depot
generally not tier slot til later cuz u dont know if u get any or all
pallid bay
at some point probably
rich jewel
why is this guy talking about meta comps
chrome sable
when it inevitably gets nerfed for sure
normal pilot
smh thinking you'll get given tier
lofty depot
should get some glasses
meager storm
doesnt mm need boss above 80 or below 20
not really
lethal sedge
@meager storm LOL
meager storm
supple haven
am I the only one that gets my tier through vault then 
meager storm
oh u are playing boomy next season
lethal sedge
Must be nice to be happy about where your class is at coming into the new season
gilded wolf
til lenience is a raid buff
lucid olive
Yes we sandbag
(make our APL public and share our profiles and sim numbers and are very open about our theorycrafting compared to other specs who hide behind paywalls or in closed channels)
royal zenith
Do we have to get this scrappd person banned?
digital berry
max has done irreparable dmg to the boomkin reputation
royal zenith
I feel like he's a bad actor...
chrome sable
Do we have to get this scrappd person banned?
WHAT
royal zenith
:)
chrome sable
BRO WENT TO THE HISOTRY BOOKS
stone ledge
Let’s start prepping our copypasta for people rerolling after rwf ending and we catch a giga buff
meager storm
brother
night gulch
you think we're catching a giga buff?
meager storm
we are NOT
night gulch
thats crazy
lucid olive
moonkin was so strong in aberrus man
meager storm
gonna be good
lucid olive
night gulch
i can't wait for the +3% aura after the race
meager storm
if the set remains like this
night gulch
that changes nothing
stone ledge
don’t forget a 6% starfall nerf with it
stone ledge
Oh no mdi team is pulling 19 mobs in 1 pack surely nerfing starfall is the issue
lucid olive
man fuck izen
lofty depot
lucid olive
even a broken clock is right two times a day
meager storm
lucid olive
i jumped halfway through the video and hes like "and i know moonkins usually rig all their sims and sandbag and say they are terrible when they arent but right now this is actually looking bad"
lucid olive
yes
chrome sable
moonkin was so strong in aberrus man
this is more like it
stone ledge
I would gladly take a massive aoe nerf to be be decent in raid
lucid olive
NAAAAH
chrome sable
xdddd
lucid olive
you spent so long finding that
night gulch
m+ andys are super low iq, they don't realize that if the meta gets nerfed the fotm just reroll to the next best spec anyway, but they think its boomkins fault
stone ledge
Yo nice hold w 3 button rotation. Must’ve high rolled ur cross
stone ledge
Get em gamz
chrome sable
alr bro
lucid olive
cant find ammy d logs cause they were all private
digital berry
i CANNOT WAIT to hear the balance druid section on that stream
lofty depot
jb doing a 19 and yappin
potent cargo
i jumped halfway through the video and hes like "and i know moonkins usually rig...
PDF take who said this
sturdy prism
starfall must die so that boomie can win
stone ledge
Dorky gonna be like they just got a aura buff I think they’ll be aight
meager storm
starfall on a cd will save raid boomy
stone ledge
Means we can move some ap gen out for m+ too
digital berry
dorki is gonna get us nerfed even further
stone ledge
Like it doesn’t need to be crazy like 3 sec cd
night gulch
dorki is gonna get us nerfed even further
fuck it, send us to the shadow realm
digital berry
we are already there unforch
night gulch
even more
stone ledge
That’s it I’m rerolling aug 💀
chrome sable
cant find ammy d logs cause they were all private
when did u leave that guild i forgot
night gulch
we could do even less damage
lucid olive
when did u leave that guild i forgot
after i was benched on council
lucid olive
oh i killed nymue actually
lucid olive
so i left right after nymue
digital berry
dry compass
we're catching druid on druid friendly fire
lucid olive
then joined a wr300 guild on tindral and killed last 2 with them
digital berry
i LOVE max
lucid olive
even the mods
potent cargo
Can’t imagine liking someone so racist as max
lucid olive
xddd
dry compass
jb salty we don't ask him for boomkin advice
meager storm
i just want boomy to be actually the best of the best broken one tier
im gonna cyberbully people
sturdy prism
sl
meager storm
since then we have been bottom half or last
night gulch
can't wait to have fun in raid again when we get to shadowland classic xdd
digital berry
i dont even care to be top dps
meager storm
can't wait to have fun in raid again when we get to shadowland classic xdd
unlucky frenzy pre nerfed
digital berry
but the way blizzard has treated us the last 2 expansions is insane
dry compass
double onuse convoke in nathria was fun too but a lil degenerate
night gulch
wouldn't surprise me lol
sturdy prism
bring back rf
digital berry
now we have 5.1m unachievable sims
iron chasm
Surely we get another buff
lucid olive
@prime ingot we need an apology too
stone ledge
True we all watching
stone ledge
We need another nerf fr
dry compass
better drop the boomie apology before max says goodnight
iron chasm
Yeah we need a revert for sure
stone ledge
We too strong to s2
night gulch
druid lives rent free in these peoples head as the reason they get denied for raid or keys lol
meager storm
better drop the boomie apology before max says goodnight
or else?
chrome sable
<@192124208833101824> we need an apology too
bro ripped a fuck moonkin and bears
iron chasm
And it would be good if they put it in patch notes and didn’t just undocumented hotfix it 🤓
dry compass
we spam the jb copypasta in his chat xd
wintry scroll
💔
sturdy prism
if u think about it tettles is kind of like jesus, he bore the sins and hatred of all but in the end he is dying for the greater good
iron chasm
It’s fine guys we’ll get another 5% starsurge buff
jaunty blaze
5% of 0 lets go
digital berry
any overall dps buffs will just benefit EC as well as KOTG
the changes need to be reverted
chrome sable
they shot my spec dude
our spec bro
digital berry
in order for us to brin kotg into raid
iron chasm
Yeah but imagine our 5th 5% starsurge buff this expansion
meager storm
brother
the set was the fun part
had potential for some fights
and the amps
this 6x sht
is comepltely worthless
iron chasm
Yeah it was absolutely awesome
Was nice to have a relevant tier set that wasn’t just some passive bullshit
iron chasm
Is there even a boomy dev anymore
lucid olive
Is there even a boomy dev anymore
did you see Superman
meager storm
last time i heard about the dev it was a feral classic guy
potent cargo
Is there even a boomy dev anymore
Hard to imagine there is, I’d take the abuser breast milk drinking freak over what we’ve got now
dry compass
we get 3 minutes of dev time every 3rd tuesday while the feral dev takes a dump
iron chasm
did you see Superman
Yeah I did
chrome sable
last time i heard about the dev it was a feral classic guy
feral classic dev??
iron chasm
#gamzforboomydev
meager storm
maybe we can split it in half for oi too
lucid olive
Yeah I did
the monkey team in that other realm
iron chasm
Paper gets banned from dg and they make Kotg unplayable
lucid olive
the dev is one of them
iron chasm
The balance has shifted
iron chasm
the monkey team in that other realm
T R U E
meager storm
wait
meager storm
maybe paper was our dev
digital berry
people have learned the word sandbag and just thropw it around
meager storm
this is starting to make sense
royal zenith
<@182925977935020032> why are you trolling <#121880955379122176>
cause I can!
lofty depot
maybe paper was our dev
trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
dreamy locust
since then we have been bottom half or last
Its only been like 2 years,
But thats only like, 3-4 tiers ago
dry compass
why does max's chat love jak so much
dreamy locust
Not broken, but boomkin was upper half in vault
lofty depot
why does max's chat love jak so much
nice guy, goes on walks on stream
iron chasm
Ignoring eclipse was perfection
meager storm
Not broken, but boomkin was upper half in vault
no it wasnt, it was fun but it was not upper half
unless u are looking at the prepatch stats
iron chasm
Boomy was mid in voti
pallid bay
Not broken, but boomkin was upper half in vault
wasnt boomie the worst spec in vault basically
iron chasm
We had like 1 good fight in voti one good fight in amirdrassil and we were piss in abberus
dreamy locust
Maybe I meant abberus
lofty depot
time to go find the gamz tweet
lucid olive
we were piss in all of em
dreamy locust
Thats just cope
iron chasm
We were not piss
Brother..
sturdy prism
vault wasnt great for boomie
lofty depot
X
digital berry
s1 df was which one
iron chasm
Dragonflight was not a good balance Druid expansion
lucid olive
aberrus is the tier we died if we just looked at the boss
iron chasm
aberrus is the tier we died if we just looked at the boss
Remember bursting for 1/5 of the demo locks and UH dks
dry compass
aberrus is the tier we died if we just looked at the boss
that was most of df lol
lucid olive
perma bear and LOS on neltharion
dreamy locust
Idk why you are linking a tweet, you can just go look at stats
iron chasm
Idk why you are linking a tweet, you can just go look at stats
Did you play boomy for those three tiers?
lucid olive
idk i heard the guy who posted that tweet is really cool
lofty depot
Idk why you are linking a tweet, you can just go look at stats
because i love my experts tweets
dreamy locust
Yeah, its been squishy, but thats a different argument than our damage has been bottom half
for 5 years
lucid olive
it has been bottom half for 5 years
dreamy locust
Did you play boomy for those three tiers?
Ive played boomy every tier except queen ansurek
iron chasm
Our damage HAS been bottom half for 5 years hahaha
pallid bay
this one was funny
lucid olive
we were so good in vault man!
iron chasm
If you’re out dpsing better classes that’s because they are shit at their class
pallid bay
maybe this one
sturdy prism
primal council OMEGAPAD included in overall damage stats XDDD
iron chasm
Yeah but boomy rocked on the council fight!
pallid bay
gg we were good
sturdy prism
boomie pounds a useless council boss and gaslights itself against our will
meager storm
could have happened this tier with amps
dry compass
good thing they give us one not-hard council fight in the first half of each raid
lucid olive
actually our stats in Amirdrassil probably not the worst
considering all the good moonkins played feral
iron chasm
gg we were good
This could be us but blizzard playin’
tulip snow
max should just join the voice chat with all of us in it for like 2 seconds, leave, then just put us in last tier
lofty depot
considering all the good moonkins played feral
werent u a good moonkin?
lucid olive
rat smolderon
royal zenith
Our druid experts need to grow up...
pallid bay
p mid on kurog though
dry compass
progging tindraal as moonkin was TERRIFYING
lucid olive
Our druid experts need to grow up...
no..
raw fox
sturdy prism
amirdrassil was an easy hunter reroll
lucid olive
missed u
pallid bay
idk we can look at some other tier ig
meager storm
actually our stats in Amirdrassil probably not the worst
cuz once again
a council fight
lucid olive
please rename to normal names
no, if i have this name and it ends up happening i can say it was because of me..
royal zenith
thats true
stone ledge
Actually got something harder. Find a tier where lock wasn’t top 5 in recent raiding
meager storm
iron chasm
We have NOT been bad for 5 years!
exotic perch
Cant believe moonkins didnt play feral in amirdrassil
Feral was quite fun that tier
pallid bay
aberrus wasnt that bad or
iron chasm
We dominated zaqali assault pad
exotic perch
Abberus was saved by final boss being great
lofty depot
got worse through out the tier when every add died in 2 seconds
exotic perch
Rest of that raid was very forgettable
lofty depot
think pulsar just carried my dopamine idk
exotic perch
Big fan of 7 min end boss just blasting thru
dreamy locust
lucid olive
that was the triple cancelaura patch
dreamy locust
"Start"
meager storm
iron chasm
that was the triple cancelaura patch
Omg the pulsar cancel
dreamy locust
You mean when it mattered, had like 5 clears in that patch
dreamy locust
Who cares how we perform on farm
lofty depot
even tho it was earlier than 4
dreamy locust
10.1 was not 4 weeks
lofty depot
thats not what i said
pallid bay
Who cares how we perform on farm
real
lofty depot
dreamy locust
You are not reading that correctly, Mines on 10.1
lucid olive
who cares about farm
dreamy locust
10.1.5 lasted 4 weeks
lucid olive
log off all star warrior
meager storm
another lost soul
lucid olive
aint nobody givin a shit about .7 parses...
exotic perch
Farm doesnt matter when you get benched til then cause your class sucks
lucid olive
log on other games show up to raid with 1 hand
pallid bay
another lost soul
you're lost in the sauce with this raid buff
exotic perch
Thats what the one button rotation is for
lucid olive
the mental damage from playing moonkin
pallid bay
probably boomkin
pallid bay
probably not
iron chasm
Nobody is gonna make me go feral Druid
dreamy locust
???????????
lucid olive
if he ends up playing feral he probably updates it
iron chasm
I will fight the power
dreamy locust
Update it worker
lucid olive
but im waiting for the full eightsune pack for all 3 specs
pallid bay
if he ends up playing feral he probably updates it
ill end up not playing if this is the other option i think
lucid olive
fair
iron chasm
Time to log onto osrs dsune
pallid bay
osrs is just advanced cookieclicker
meager storm
i thought dsune was a lock player now
iron chasm
It hits different
meager storm
good tier to be a lock (every tier)
lucid olive
moonkin aoe rotation is just interactive OSU
pallid bay
cookieclicker goated
20 years ago sure
iron chasm
Can tap starfall and dots to ur favourite anime ost
granite hare
little off topic from this conversation but what's the best EC ST talent build people are theorycrafting we'll play next tier (in raid)?
trying to do some PTR stuff
pallid bay
this game will end in 12.0 anyway
lofty depot
trying to do some PTR stuff
lucid olive
maybe incarn
chrome sable
Our druid experts need to grow up...
sandbag experts
royal zenith
sandbag experts
you would know!!
meager storm
lofty depot
i love how we dont pick nb
-0.5% kek
lucid olive
like we have this on top
royal zenith
yet
pallid bay
nb just kinda sucks in general tbf
chrome sable
you would know!!
still sucks just less
royal zenith
show survival hunter
pallid bay
bm kinda deserves to be worse than other specs
dry compass
class with zero execution burden still sims 10% higher than our high execution burden spec, seems fine
royal zenith
that's what it is...
pallid bay
as long as bm isnt punished by movement in any way they deserve less
chrome sable
as long as bm isnt punished by movement in any way they deserve less
interesting take
to what extent is that tho
like should balancing just be the more u need to hardcast the more damage u do or what
or does it just apply to bm alone
dreamy locust
Hardcasters and melee should sim higher than BM hunter yes, thats simple brainpower
Casts get interrupted, melee get downtime
BM hunter can do every mechanic, while sippin a pina colada from 40 yds with 1 hand
and do full sim damage
digital berry
Not a single lie was uttered
rich jewel
like should balancing just be the more u need to hardcast the more damage u do o...
it means balancing should be done on real performance not sims
chrome sable
that is what happens
lucid olive
they do not balance around sims
chrome sable
+1
lucid olive
i gave em sims for why the keeper change would be bad
they did it anyway
they do not give a single shit
rich jewel
cool
solemn idol
Thats even more infuriating
rich jewel
maybe feedback formatted poorly
lucid olive
as long as the delta between the best spec and lowest spec is acceptable to them it is whatever
digital berry
We need to ban that word in here
true viper
damn not even a dev note for the change is crazy work
chrome sable
BM B, MM Surv C inc
digital berry
The general wow population is literally convinced balance sandbags every season
digital berry
damn not even a dev note for the change is crazy work
Its cause they have no fucking idea why they do what they do
Dev note : “ fuck balance “
dreamy locust
98% of the game is M+ casuals who are mad that boomkins good in M+
lucid olive
blizzard devs are liking moonkin hate posts on twitter
dreamy locust
I want them to gut starfall and make it playable in raid
fossil hemlock
Also Liquid Max spouting bullshit about moonkins every 5 seconds
Him being a spectator to RWF makes his opinion valuable or something
chrome sable
"a spectator" is crazy hahahah
rain pebble
so balance still good in M+ then
fossil hemlock
"a spectator" is crazy hahahah
Last glance I had at their prog he just repeated what the other raiders said and followed up with "yeah, let's do that"
lucid olive
id put it B tier in m+
pallid bay
"a spectator" is crazy hahahah
live here guys..
rain pebble
sounds fine
chrome sable
live here guys..
just live calls are invaluable
"why didnt i just think of that???"
just live!!
lucid olive
every 2 minutes: "healthstone"
pallid bay
he actually did something really impressive last tier when they got to last phase gallywix
pallid bay
puppet master
lucid olive
he actually did something really impressive last tier when they got to last phas...
you mean his "we don't know what happens now, just play the game" call?
that was so good
pallid bay
and i was laughing every intermission
chrome sable
and i was laughing every intermission
HAHAHA I REMMEBER THIS
people eating traps
unserious raidlead
pallid bay
that was so good
that one yeah, followed by the genious move to call the same sequence of mechanics as the previous phase
lucid olive
waaah
low shale
azor is known sandbagger
lucid olive
this was today
chrome sable
i mean
meager storm
bro
meager storm
on raid too
chrome sable
so idk
midnight bough
Omg tell me it ain't so!
lucid olive
you should just alt f4 your browser having that tab open
grand prawn
Are we ready to see tettles help us on max stream or what?
digital berry
Tettles ? You mean dorki
grand prawn
Ohh
low shale
grand prawn
my bad xdd
real flax
this was today
thats sad as fuck
midnight bough
How in the fork is a got dang bear the balance expert
night gulch
he plays boomkin in raid
grand prawn
Anyone, are we going to have some hope or just meh
fossil hemlock
How in the fork is a got dang bear the balance expert
He's barely a bear
lofty depot
Anyone, are we going to have some hope or just meh
not currently
real flax
Anyone, are we going to have some hope or just meh
they adding class changes a lot this week with no intentions to buff balance in any aspect
midnight bough
This is bs max is disinformation campaign to win race
grand prawn
I'm playing hunter on s3, but was hoping could change to my moonkin mid/late prog
wild dune
real flax
the druid is topping that key
lucid olive
wild dune
motw only worth uh
lucid olive
the druid is topping that key
nah haven't you heard
wild dune
887100 there not including his own damage
wild dune
truuuuu
chrome sable
motw isnt good for hunter
I WAS JUST TYPING THAT
that guys the goat
vers bad for hunter 
pallid bay
go hunter discord instead scrapp
chrome sable
go hunter discord instead scrapp
sorry im here to spread propeganda
vital yarrow
sorry im here to spread propeganda
LF resil 19
chrome sable
also gamz is my goat
real flax
lucid olive
bad choice..
zenith holly
did i pick the wrong tier to play boomie for the first time because ive always been secretly interested 😦
been having a blast rn... 😦
meager storm
well it has been pretty shit in raid for a while
this tier is just the most shitty of them all
but if u do m+ and u enjoy it
go ahead
normal pilot
if you're late CE it'll eventually be kinda ok by the end of tier
lofty depot
u can play it and enjoy laser beams this tier
digital berry
Unfortunately for you ec is arguably not the most fun class to play in raid
lucid olive
You also lose a ton of dmg with EC if there's any movement
solemn idol
Who doesnt like to hard cast starfires? I mean really
lucid olive
Not only do you have to hard cast Starfire
but the duration on the 4pc stacks is not very long
boreal knot
@pallid bay bud ull be playing EC next tier
lucid olive
And you can end up in situations where FoE is on 30s cd
you have 2 stacks of the 4pc
but there's movement
and you don't proc more stacks to refresh the duration for like 3-4 Starfire casts
so the buff runs out
and you have to send the FoE on cd without any 4pc stacks
pallid bay
<@148552191874039808> bud ull be playing EC next tier
i wont be playing gg
ill be laughing at you
pallid bay
we have better players to play lock
boreal knot
lofty depot
Twentyonesune
lucid olive
feel like waaay more specs are putting themselves in low tiers now than before