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#balance
pallid bay
vital hound
have you spent much time looking at loot sune
pallid bay
have you spent much time looking at loot sune
not really
vital hound
not really
errant flint
https://tenor.com/view/knowledge-tai-lopez-lamborghini-gif-19251888
ive met this dood...awful person
pallid bay
everything?
Arcane, Holy, Nature, Shadow
lofty depot
ugly stats
true viper
Mfs just be making up damage types
gentle patio
Chimeric damage
vital hound
ugly stats
haste is pretty cool
lofty depot
yucky
dense steeple
arctic convinced vers > haste now
lofty depot
guess which one is haste
stone ledge
smol number
dense steeple
gonna need more data
stone ledge
wtb bis list
lofty depot
no
stone ledge
it was satire
errant flint
idk lol
empty girder
Delete this asap
olive trout
All clases have huge changes, balance 1 line xD
tranquil plank
wtb bis list
For the 3 items we get to pick this tier ;)
night gulch
For the 3 items we get to pick this tier ;)
doubt we get dinars again, after the shitshow it was this tier, as far as I know theres been nothing on the ptr about it
dense steeple
doubt we get dinars again, after the shitshow it was this tier, as far as I know...
he didnt mean dinars
tranquil plank
I mean for the 3 slots that aren't tier/cantrip/cloak/etc
dense steeple
half our gear is locked in
night gulch
ah my mistake
sour gale
How are we feeling boys and girls?
glossy jungle
errant charm
Is our M+ build changing in S3?
vital hound
<:Deadge:1014632484249554994>
incorrect
2x boomkin
glyphd/gorelul on top
shade vs honestly battle ROYALE confirmed
glossy jungle
all boomies should quit the game. we're never going to be good again. doomers on top. despair is inevitable
lucid olive
Who's dropping BF6
glossy jungle
I will be maining it during prog (bench)
glossy jungle
vital hound
wasnt world first like a decade ago
vital hound
did they one shot everything
dense steeple
guilds in classic usually do
strong bronze
does anyone have a cooked build for EC m+ ptr
or do you just run the same from live?
lofty depot
u can use the one in dreamgrove
errant flint
With buffs today: EC in m+ again?
lofty depot
we didnt have buffs today
lofty depot
?
lofty depot
the 8% funny picutre is 1 old but 2 would be to both specs
so idk why u wouldve thought otherwise
vital hound
ya
errant flint
Hopium if you will
vital hound
its all the notes
real flax
lofty depot
not showing adept is crazy
drifting nova
wasnt world first like a decade ago
reading.jpg
potent cargo
thats aura tho
delicate perch
not showing adept is crazy
I knew without it tbh
glossy jewel
can some1 update me on how boomy is looking for the tier in terms of raid dps. In terms of just getting a raid spot for buff doesnt matter but more in terms of numbers. Is the spec far behind, middle, ahead in terms of ST/cleave/AOE?
delicate perch
yep I can, shit
past knot
can some1 update me on how boomy is looking for the tier in terms of raid dps. I...
on a 14 Hall of At
lofty depot
can some1 update me on how boomy is looking for the tier in terms of raid dps. I...
are u in a top 100 guild and scared for ur well being?
its bottom middle of a sim, but that doesnt really mean anything until raid comes out and u can see timings and adds hp.
lucid olive
With the patch coming out next week you have to look at the bright side. You just cleared up 2 to potentially 3 days a week to do whatever you want for the next couple months!
wild dune
poggers
lofty depot
on a 14 Hall of At
what if u or they arent very good 👀
delicate perch
With the patch coming out next week you have to look at the bright side. You jus...
wild dune
time to become a professional grass toucher
past knot
do not feel weak, not tier set could be better
glossy jewel
are u in a top 100 guild and scared for ur well being?
its bottom middle of a si...
Just keeping an open mind to swapping to boomy as we have 2 potential ww and 0 boomies and a lack of ranged compared to melee
lofty depot
answer the top 100 guild part of that
past knot
what if u or they arent very good 👀
maybe they suck at theirs as me xd
delicate perch
Just keeping an open mind to swapping to boomy as we have 2 potential ww and 0 b...
it'll be fine for 99% of players to just play if it allows
glossy jewel
not in a top 100
lofty depot
maybe they suck at theirs as me xd
see now ur thinking
delicate perch
mark > no mark
lofty depot
ur likely fine and can play w.e. u want
glossy jewel
tyty
lofty depot
well ur talking about m+
past knot
yeah i know, i mean in raid, we usually not the best spec
if you have decent damage, solarbeam going to carry us to keys
lofty depot
lol
lucid olive
Solar Beam is so overrated
past knot
AOE silence on a 45sec/1min CD...
plus vortex and typhoon
plus roar
sheezz, not feeling weak my friend
wild dune
beam without chain sigil is meh
past knot
got em all AOE stops
wild dune
and coordinating that in pugs is awful.
past knot
beam without chain sigil is meh
you can still vortex + typhoon + solarbeam
lofty depot
you can still vortex + typhoon + solarbeam
that sounds like a lot of non damage globals
past knot
still better that getting casted on the face and killing the key
lofty depot
just dont die
past knot
some spec ( ret paladins ) cant do a thing.
past knot
1.5min CD on AOE stop and he is done.
wild dune
alr I'm not doing this 
lofty depot
blaze r u a pusher
past knot
sorry pal, not trying to fight ❤️
just love balance
i see it strong for those reasons.
damage is not i see off right now, maybe more could be more fun, but going to play it anyways
lucid olive
sheezz, not feeling weak my friend
That's what they always say man
Every season it's the same just different spec
"oh shadow priest utility is so fucking good you NEED IT FOR EVERY KEY", next season psychic link nerfed 5% "oh shadow is so garbage it just has nothing in a key"
Every fucking time man..
exotic perch
turns out utility doesnt matter when one spec just does 20% more damage
lucid olive
Now it's Solar Beam and Vortex, in Midnight it's probably supernova and mass poly
exotic perch
death is best cc
lucid olive
Yee you bring whoever does the most damage and then you find a way to best utilize whatever CC they have
past knot
i find CC more important in high keys depending on which could be side turner
dispel been something that made priest OP in past seasons.
not king rules forever
delicate perch
beam 
lucid olive
Minigamers
tranquil plank
i find CC more important in high keys depending on which could be side turner
Don't need to worry about what you need in high keys if you're playing boomkin this tier
little cove
ye blaze i think your cooked and dont understand why shit is meta
its dmg to make key faster> compensate route for cc available
mighty mica
ew\
past knot
its ok
past knot
ye blaze i think your cooked and dont understand why shit is meta
cooked comment but ok
past knot
its dmg to make key faster> compensate route for cc available
not always the most damage is the best
lofty depot
inc set changes
lay it on me
wild dune
spill the BEANS
normal pilot
dryad surge buffed by 1100%, starfall by 700%, 4pc stores 2% of damage
wild dune
lofty depot
god i hate them
past knot
LMAO
wild dune
Those are some numbies
lofty depot
did they lower the cap
wild dune
Other specs got set changes too I assume?
normal pilot
no idea you'll have to test cap in game
normal pilot
if they didn't touch the cap i guess it's not horrible
if they did then it'd be awful depending
dense steeple
dryad surge buffed by 1100%, starfall by 700%, 4pc stores 2% of damage
ℹ️ ???
normal pilot
~1.2% nerf if they didn't touch the cap
misty glade
~1.2% nerf if they didn't touch the cap
Assuming this is due to just being harder to hit the cap?
normal pilot
hm taza trinket buffs too
lucid olive
Assuming this is due to just being harder to hit the cap?
No they want you to hit the cap
That's why the cap is so low
normal pilot
well cap needs to be confirmed in game
misty glade
Oh. My brain is smooth. How is it a nerf then
dense steeple
hm taza trinket buffs too
where my sources
normal pilot
just how awful they made it who knows
huh they buffed sacbrood by 20% wasn't that a good trinket
wild dune
It was
lucid olive
huh they buffed sacbrood by 20% wasn't that a good trinket
It was in season 1
This PTR it's been subpar
normal pilot
ritual forge nerfed 10%
lucid olive
Makes sense
normal pilot
altho i guess that's more a melee one?
craggy sonnet
do we reach current cap easily?
lofty depot
easily, no
normal pilot
if they chagned cap then it won't be a prolem now
but if they lowered it then maybe
you hit cap currently
or well pre-change
normal pilot
depends on the cap
craggy sonnet
unless you are saying that with lower contribution we could still reach a higher cap
lofty depot
why does it depend on the cap?
because it increases the damage of surge dawg
currently its 25x... if thye lower it to 10x its less damage stores
25x = 3.2m
10x = 1.28m
normal pilot
also every time you hit the cap it's bad since you lose haste scaling
craggy sonnet
oh no. guess the convo was a bit misleading .. i was only talking about the 4p
that is likely a straight nerf even if they were to increase the cap
lucid olive
It's a straight nerf
It's a gigantic nerf in fact
I thought they would send the other shit and not also reduce the pool from 3% to 2%
craggy sonnet
surely they would only do this and compensate for baseline surge dmg or something?
wild dune
wild dune
ec in raid, lock the fuck in
lofty depot
yea if they dont buff keeper u just dont paly it
meager storm
see u on farm
lofty depot
shrimple
wild dune
wonder if it was intentional or they just fucked up
lucid olive
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tier set, effectively killing it in all content
2pc
Dryad Starsurge damage buffed by 1100%
Dryad Starfall damage buffed by 700%
4pc
Dryads Favor cap is reduced from 25x spell power (intellect) to 6x spell power (intellect)
The damage attributed to the cap is now 2% reduced from 3%
This is about a 14% nerf Keeper of the Grove.
This is an immense nerf and has effectively killed the hero talent in all content for the coming season unless it gets reverted. An incoming aura buff to the spec will just result in you playing EC for all content in the upcoming raid.
lucid olive
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
<@&114146878353833984> pin
crisp topaz
past tide
no idea you'll have to test cap in game
did they do something to resto 2p
past tide
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
holy shit lmfao
craggy sonnet
so .. how bad is ec looking guys?
meager storm
wasnt it like 5.1
errant flint
yall playing too much
dreamy locust
EC was between 5-5.1
rough sapphire
do yall know if star fall snap shots buffs?
tulip snow
no
tulip snow
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
I need a new name 
timber venture
I need a new name <:pepesob:1239684142636073082>
#1 sad kotg fan
lofty depot
blizzard #1 kotg hater
delicate perch
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
@vital hound get ready
little cove
not always the most damage is the best
what io are you
sick cargo
Is this our “we don’t want you playing demonology” moment?
balmy echo
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
sure?
craggy sonnet
this is our "we dont want you playing" moment
meager storm
lucid olive
MAN I FUCKING LOVE PRESSING STARFIRE EVERY GLOBAL WEEEEEE STARFIRE STARFIRE STARFIRE STARFIRE STARFIRE STARFIRE STARFIRE
thorn nebula
we had a good run, might as well disband the discord
wild dune
two tiers of kotg, clearly it's ECs turn
craggy sonnet
MAN I FUCKING LOVE PRESSING STARFIRE EVERY GLOBAL WEEEEEE STARFIRE STARFIRE STA...
pls make sure not to overcap tho
wild dune
ionic oak
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
Nah. It aint April.
craggy sonnet
why would they nerf the cap .. i dont get it
dusty bluff
we still cooked? or did anything change?
lofty depot
we still cooked? or did anything change?
read the pin
craggy sonnet
bro, it burnt and we got thrown in the bin
thorn nebula
they're afraid of boomkin not being bottom 2-3 specs in the game
delicate perch
didn't mm get slapped
meager storm
on raid not really
delicate perch
(I have not looked at rankings or how bad changes are)
lofty depot
you know it's bad when dakd joins in the dooming
he was already rerolling hunter
lofty depot
so like, we were underperforming, and they nerfed us further?
we werent under performing
delicate perch
meager storm
i was not rerolling if these changes didnt happen
delicate perch
we werent under performing
I am
thorn nebula
we were very middle of the pack
meager storm
but i refuse to play the unfun hero talent and also do tank talent
kotg had such a good set
dusty bluff
oh, all the logs I saw showed us pretty low before this
thorn nebula
but tbh some other specs were sandbagging sims
arcane sims were not fully optimized gear
wild dune
seems like an intentional change to lower the burst of the tier set and they just forgot to also buff the spec to compensate.
thorn nebula
shit like that makes the overall results kinda meaningless
wild dune
shrug
thorn nebula
let's not go back to where builders were doing more damage than spenders
lofty depot
oh, all the logs I saw showed us pretty low before this
logs of raid?
thorn nebula
fuckin stupid design
wild dune
Holy
craggy sonnet
they could buff hero talent shit
wild dune
THE COOK
delicate perch
dusty bluff
how are we in keys?
balmy echo
so cool
meager storm
on keys im pretty sure we are giga ass
maybe people played ec
and got better results
but kotg
was already last
now its tank dmg
craggy sonnet
ec is prolly ok-ish
meager storm
unironically tank dmg
balmy echo
gogogogo
delicate perch
if tettles hasn't tweeted by the time I go get lunch it's so over for boomkin
normal pilot
it's already over
balmy echo
it's already over
ripe slate
Just heard the news I’m already preparing my fur suit to go cat
normal pilot
nothing left but the kicking and screaming
delicate perch
Just heard the news I’m already preparing my fur suit to go cat
resto*
past tide
resto sucks
ripe slate
No
thorn nebula
prolly no tuning first week, if this doesn't get fixed by tomorrow we're locked in for at least 4-5 weeks
normal pilot
you just play EC
craggy sonnet
*feral
delicate perch
mage*
thorn nebula
*different class
ionic oak
Nahhhhh
meager storm
well starting to make new friends over there 
delicate perch
@lofty depot ur the only person dumb enough to play mage what spec is going to be good
boreal brook
When do we unequip this tier's set?
delicate perch
whenever you want, you aren't playing druid anyway
obsidian jetty
doesn't matter what gear you wear on the bench
just wear what makes you feel pretty
dense steeple
it is
delicate perch
no
rough marten
playing EC in raid 
delicate perch
you just afk mechanics that would do 300% of a boomkin health
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> ur the only person dumb enough to play mage what spec is g...
frost
lofty depot
theyre sim is uhhhh very high
thorn nebula
they let dev evoker sit where it's at for like months with no changes
delicate perch
true 
thorn nebula
they don't care if some classes are mega OP
delicate perch
as long as it's not arcane I am fine
lofty depot
we werent even op after changes
craggy sonnet
whoever brought up the dimensius 15s dmg amp earlier made them realize we cant have that
tranquil plank
as long as it's not arcane I am fine
Bad news about m+
thorn nebula
i mean bandaid fix for a problem they created - some other classes got MAJOR changes to almost their entire talent tree
nerfing the tier isn't the problem
lofty depot
i mean bandaid fix for a problem they created - some other classes got MAJOR cha...
1 week before raid choo choo
thorn nebula
not making adjustments to the class is the real problem
delicate perch
ya mage will just be raid toonerino
ripe slate
aura buff 10% and play ec in raid gonna go hard
craggy sonnet
wdym
ripe slate
craggy sonnet
we got 8% aura buff
craggy sonnet
not making adjustments to the class is the real problem
answer to that
thorn nebula
Like seriously look at that shit compared to Unholy for example
delicate perch
not reading that essay
thorn nebula
don't have to just read one line "All damage increased by 8%"
sick cargo
Boomkin rework gonna go hard
craggy sonnet
only frost* was promised a rework, no?
ionic oak
Boomkin rework gonna go hard
Never gonna happen
thorn nebula
i mean same shit for hunters/mages/pallys/warlocks/priests
thorn nebula
actual essays on their class changes
iron chasm
Gonna get some banger logs this tier being the only boomkin in for mythic progression
thorn nebula
100% parses for class, bottom dps in your group by 10-15%
iron chasm
You had me at 100% 
sick cargo
I’m shitposting through the pain ok
delicate perch
Gonna get some banger logs this tier being the only boomkin in for mythic progre...
lmfao
delicate perch
this is bad
enjoy bud
vital hound
feral it is ig
delicate perch
vital hound
booty/cavey
delicate perch
wtf
delicate perch
delicate perch
delicate perch
knew you as a racist just wasnt sure
PAUSE
vital hound
delicate perch
iron chasm
are we doing a feral learning session
I’ll start watching anime when I’m home from work to get into the feral mindset
dense steeple
is this repeating
delicate perch
is this repeating
there's a redot and a wrath in there
foe makes surge repeated for a little
ripe slate
see you guys in a few days when we get aura buffed and locked into EC for raid
delicate perch
insane rotation
drifting nova
lucid olive
The number 1 EC player
lucid olive
Well the fotmers are coming
ionic oak
I mean. Its still playable right gang?
thorn nebula
yea definitely
drifting nova
Well the fotmers are coming
I have absolutely no idea what this means help
tulip snow
flavor of the month-ers
winter hazel
woops
thorn nebula
it's fine boomy being this bad for this long means that next expansion they might actually listen to us and slate some major changes in 2027/2028
ionic oak
Nah. Say it with your chest
ionic oak
Lol big % must be good
true viper
Blizzard just pushed hotfixes on PTR with changes to the Keeper of the Grove tie...
What
ionic oak
I swear
drifting nova
Lol big % must be good
me when I used to read d3 changes
tulip snow
did I log into the PTR wrong?
lucid olive
did I log into the PTR wrong?
No that's correct
drifting nova
one of these days a % modifier is going to be out of whack by an entire 1
I cant wait
true viper
What are they actually doing like serious question
ionic oak
Murdering
dense steeple
playing fuckin darts
ionic oak
Chickens
drifting nova
What are they actually doing like serious question
wild dune
lofty depot
it's fine boomy being this bad for this long means that next expansion they migh...
good joke
thorn nebula
serious answer: likely AI is responsible for the future of balance druid class changes
solemn idol
If they were actual dart players theyd be hitting their targets
ionic oak
If they were actual dart players theyd be hitting their targets
Got em
drifting nova
kinda miss darts, shame I never know when its on
tulip snow
oh math, got it
dense steeple
If they were actual dart players theyd be hitting their targets
theyre like when you go to the bar with your already hammered friend and he goes "i bet i could beat you in darts" despite youve never seen them hold a dart in their life
lofty depot
no longer optional
lofty depot
myth boots give 50% inc
thorn nebula
no dedicated person to help oversee our class so they made an AI bot and gave it a prompt:
"Act like a seriously talented software developer/class tuner. Here is a class that you are responsible for updating and maintaining:
insert comprehensive class information
Given the above information, output some recommended class changes to make the specialization more engaging and fun to play."
Buff class damage by 8%
Tier too strong - destroy
lofty depot
normal 30, heroic 40.. thats big
normal pilot
it's like chicken wraps but with reshii
true viper
class tuning clearly a problem and challenge for blizzard and then they decide to add hero talents and 2 tier sets per class
Makes sense
solemn idol
We're unwinding a lot this patch - tuning coherency, class design, ethereals, sanity, general development best practices. Really the whole gamut if things that can be unwound will be unwound.
drifting nova
class tuning clearly a problem and challenge for blizzard and then they decide t...
dont worry it'l only get better next xpac when it's..a short xpac
normal pilot
it's not really a problem tho
look at what happens when they mess up like now
ppl just say 'i'll play ano ther spec'
still playing
drifting nova
if wow didnt have mop classic it'd be circling the drain
ionic oak
Im still gonna play boomkin. That’ll show them
drifting nova
real raid changes when, lockouts included
lucid olive
You can make the worst dogshit imaginable it doesn't matter
That's just what your 15 bucks a month get you
true viper
what does new rework sim look like compared to previous lol
lucid olive
About 14% worse
ionic oak
Fuck
drifting nova
with my 1 functional eye is it a "let's force minigamers into raid" angle
lucid olive
incoming 15% aura buff
You'd just play EC
ionic oak
Lol
lucid olive
Like every possible compensation buff they can think of doesn't matter
Cause you just play EC
true viper
Oh man this isnt real
drifting nova
is this it, every patch having a mandatory given item now
hard wyvern
Yeah but youd just play force of nature in EC
drifting nova
Yeah but youd just play force of nature in EC
made me throw up my tea wtf
true viper
Dont worry hes on the case
hard wyvern
The treants would need to auto attack so hard that the 15 second CRD is worth it
vital hound
Dont worry hes on the case
On the case for 4.5m dps
drifting nova
why are we not asking the real questions round here
why are ogres still not playable?
wintry scroll
lofty depot
Dont worry hes on the case
lucid olive
That's crazy
ionic oak
Maybe blizz did napkin math
Saw the damage amps/timings were going to be insane for us
And said hell nah
delicate perch
hard wyvern
They're so intent on EC being bis in M+ that they also made it bis for raid
dense steeple
tettles already working his magic
glossy jungle
need to have EC reduce the cast time of starfire. can't be casting that shit in raid
hard wyvern
starfire isnt the problem like at all
vital hound
need to have EC reduce the cast time of starfire. can't be casting that shit in ...
Canceled casts = 72%
hard wyvern
all the shit they put around starfire and the tier set make it kinda cringe
drifting nova
gib starfire a crit amp
iron chasm
its the interaction with lunation that makes it lame
because mechanic = less foes = less dps
wild dune
gib starfire a crit amp
buff lunar calling to 400%, increase starfire cast time to 3seconds
hard wyvern
its not even a long cast
drifting nova
top 3.... longest now
not counting pyroblast if fire even has that still
dont hardcast it
lucid olive
It's not just casting Starfire
It's that you can't have any downtime between casting Starfire
You have to manually apply dots
drifting nova
..what if we moved while casting
lucid olive
Starfall does 0 dmg so you have no actual cleave in raid
Cause everything dies to melee meat grinder
iron chasm
its not even a long cast
is this guy ragebaiting
lucid olive
You have no real cooldowns with damage spikes, it's just flat dmg profile with FoE being an activator for your 4pc and Atmos Exposure
If there are any adds that spawn they get put on boss and melee kills them before you can finish Moonfiring them and casting Starfire
lucid olive
FoE does no damage cause it gets turned low since it's a damage activator
iron chasm
So how bout that runescape
log it on we're hitting the crab
lofty depot
because mechanic = less foes = less dps
press moonfire
lucid olive
Also Starfire is a long enough cast for it to matter in raid
iron chasm
press moonfire
OBVIOUSLY
lucid olive
Cause Blizzard has admitted that Weakauras existing means they have to fill every mechanic with swirlies and snappy movement to make challenging bosses
And EC's worst enemy is movement
lofty depot
Cause Blizzard has admitted that Weakauras existing means they have to fill ever...
go to sleep
tranquil plank
Cause Blizzard has admitted that Weakauras existing means they have to fill ever...
They'll definitely have amazing encounter design with no swirlies when they delete WA's!!!
lucid olive
Yeah it'll be all "go here, soak this, dispell that guy, kill the add, kill the boss"
tranquil plank
Forgot drop this at marker :)
merry ibex
What % nerf to the ST do you think these KoTG changes are?
tranquil plank
-99%
true viper
-14% to what was before the hotfix
edgy coral
dropping the largest moons ST EC build, kotg was wack anyway, cut the fuckin forest down
lucid olive
I tried to see what was the most dmg I could make a Full Moon do
It's still less than a Starsurge from nerfed Keeper set
But a long cast time
boreal brook
dropping the largest moons ST EC build, kotg was wack anyway, cut the fuckin for...
Preach
merry ibex
I'm sorry are we sure this is real? We took a massive ST nerf? I thought we were already simming like at the bottom for ST
Even for blizzard that doesnt make much sense
dense steeple
Even for blizzard that doesnt make much sense
balance dev filled with incompetence and malice
lucid olive
But the aura buff will just solidify EC as better
solemn idol
Nerf the wrong things, buff the wrong things, panic aura buff...rinse repeat
circle of life
dense steeple
circle of life
and death
merry ibex
I mean EC in raid seems really bad because you dont have the freedom of wrath spam
edgy coral
play havoc, zero patch notes gg ez
normal pilot
not wrong in that. only place you're wrong is expecting any diff from the game
but maybe you haven't been playing long, in which case now you know better
dense steeple
gas please bully the balance dev
maiden garden
when i read 1200% buff thought it was an april fools pin
lucid olive
I think he gets bullied enough
normal pilot
ya
craggy sonnet
they could buff the keeper tree still
dense steeple
fuck him
normal pilot
he works for blizz
dense steeple
bully him
pastel surge
did I log into the PTR wrong?
The two piece looks kinda good, but the four piece looks really awful. 😮
dense steeple
and im turbo pissed now because idk how to play anything else
lucid olive
2pc is dogshit too
ionic oak
and im turbo pissed now because idk how to play anything else
I feel that in my fucking soul
lofty depot
I'm sorry are we sure this is real? We took a massive ST nerf? I thought we were...
we werent simming at the bottom
lucid olive
1200% buff sounds like a lot until you realize it was doing 100k per Starsurge before and it casts 5 of them
stone ledge
can someone send me some ptr talent builds to test
dense steeple
honestly thats the most infuriating part
people are going to see the 1200%
and think its a buff
and that we're just crying
lofty depot
1200% buff sounds like a lot until you realize it was doing 100k per Starsurge b...
if it seems like a lot it isnt
if it seems like its small, it is
maiden garden
but isnt it weird that you pushed something that needed a 1200% buff which is still dogwater
merry ibex
we werent simming at the bottom
Im not trying to start a fight or anything but I thought these sims (admittingly this was before the latest notes that nerfed alot of people) https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eeHVoCNTJeyW9gch51KhgK/simc show boomkin near the bottom
upper anvil
So is boomie gonna be decent next patch or nah. I mainly do m+ probably gonna go helaing for raid since boomie doesn't feel good in raid imo
lofty depot
well those arent reliable so
lucid olive
can someone send me some ptr talent builds to test
Take the EC M+ build from live
stone ledge
kotg for m+ the same or just giga dead now
wild dune
beyond dead
lucid olive
You're trolling if you play it
stone ledge
sick sign me up
pastel surge
1200% buff sounds like a lot until you realize it was doing 100k per Starsurge b...
Okay, that sounds bad. 😄
normal pilot
those sims are junk
stone ledge
if im full send trolling imma pull out the moons
normal pilot
you actually lose braincells looking at that
lofty depot
hmm
glossy jungle
kneejerk 20%+ buffs after rwf tho
by then who cares. prog only relevant time of a patch
lucid olive
Echo*
wild dune
now THATS some cope
lucid olive
Wtf is a liquid who cares about water
glossy jungle
Method 
lucid olive
I stand with my man Krona
merry ibex
Does the first part of the EC 4 set just have zero value on ST?
It just says it launches them at nearby targets
lucid olive
It launches it at your target and then splits to nearby targets
stone ledge
didnt even realize kotg was nerfed even more before i sent that btw wtb raid ec talents now
delicate perch
Wish they pinned info here
merry ibex
I get the parts that give some value but I was just wondering if the part that launches additional SSs that hit other targets
does anything in ST
delicate perch
Method <:lorgok:607917528492146688>
Hope he’s given a microphone, always such a way with words 
lucid olive
Wowhead hasn't posted datamine so nobody will know the set is nerfed
Blizzard don't write development notes for moonkin
delicate perch
Waste of time really
Who’s going to read them? @iron chasm is the only balance Druid player left
stone ledge
i waas actually checking pins hoping for something good then i remembered what spec i play
delicate perch
That’ll teach ya
normal pilot
if you can't get 4pc but only 2pc, then you got a buff
normal pilot
it wil lbe they'll nerf old 4pc so it is
stone ledge
thats like 3 weeks into the season thing
ionic oak
liquid and echo gonna roll in with 3 boomkins. we gonna be fine
stone ledge
like they nerfed augs nerubar palace 2 piece what 3 months into the season?
lucid olive
idk if it is a buff over old 4pc
It's an insane nerf
Changing the cap to 6x spell power means the 4pc adds about a Starsurge worth of damage at the end of your ramp
thorn nebula
hmm anyone else getting this notification while trying to log onto their druids?
ionic oak
how much we thinking damage is for keeper and elune right now with the changes? napkin math?
lucid olive
Keeper sims like 4.6m ish
EC is like 5.2m
Feral is 5.7m which is what you should be playing anyway
stuck meadow
pandaria angle
lucid olive
Yeah but you don't
desert imp
haha
lofty depot
Yeah but you don't
yea retweet that
so true
"they want u to hit cap"
statement of all time
vital hound
I’ll start watching anime when I’m home from work to get into the feral mindset
do you want to sit in vc mute/deafened?
lofty depot
do you want to sit in vc mute/deafened?
@ hytes
vital hound
🫗
lofty depot
were revitalizing dg vc cuz we aint raiding
stone ledge
wow dryad does dam now
where does fury go in the opener, after convoke or before
vital hound
were revitalizing dg vc cuz we aint raiding
fr
season off
raid looks like shit i didnt wanna raid anyway
pastel surge
I just joined a mythic raiding guild, first time since Shadowlands. 😂
dense steeple
I just joined a mythic raiding guild, first time since Shadowlands. 😂
nah you just got kicked from a m raiding guild
pastel surge
nah you just got kicked from a m raiding guild
That's not very nice. This is my chance to finally work on Cutting Edge. 😄
lofty depot
and u CA after that surge so u have trees for 2 seconds for the 2 surges after
vital hound
That's not very nice. This is my chance to finally work on Cutting Edge. 😄
you'll be able to get it on farm ig
craggy sonnet
why are you teaching someone the kotg rotation?
ionic oak
because there is always hope
stone ledge
its kotg for testing bruh
vital hound
why are you teaching someone the kotg rotation?
might as well learn both hero talents
pastel surge
you'll be able to get it on farm ig
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
vital hound
you're not playing either in raid
lofty depot
because as a regular i will still help the less fortunate that are stil playing boomkin
stone ledge
LMAO
vital hound
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid ...
what wr is the guild
ionic oak
yeeah im still gonna play. ima be mad as fuck though
dense steeple
That's not very nice. This is my chance to finally work on Cutting Edge. 😄
im memeing because boomkin just got taken out back and shot. its nothing personal
lofty depot
his guild means hes going to sleep forever
pastel surge
what wr is the guild
Around 1,300. 🙂
lofty depot
cuz he aint raiding
craggy sonnet
why sandbag tho
craggy sonnet
ec all the way
lofty depot
do you wanna pick up like an ecouple coop game
i said i wanted to do a dnd campaign with the boomkin regs
vital hound
i said i wanted to do a dnd campaign with the boomkin regs
yea thatd be baller
timezone
would be
ionic oak
its ok. MM hunters say they do starfire long casts all the time
vital hound
a fucking nightmare tho
lofty depot
i mean we just do it on the weekend no?
vital hound
cause theres no chance im playing dnd sober
ionic oak
they saying if they can do it. we should stop crying and do it too
lofty depot
cause theres no chance im playing dnd sober
it would have to be like early morning for u
well like 7am or w.e.
vital hound
jesus
lofty depot
or noon ?1
vital hound
lofty depot
i lied
craggy sonnet
is that dak talking for the mm discord?
lofty depot
like noon for u prob works
lofty depot
uhhh yea nvm 10am prob
vital hound
lofty depot
cuz eu it would be like 11pm
true viper
his guild means hes going to sleep forever
my feral is nasty
vital hound
i think you just do it
lofty depot
well some eu KEK
vital hound
for na/eu
lucid olive
It's 5am now
vital hound
oce we'll just fuck oursleves
vital hound
It's 5am now
lofty depot
It's 5am now
THIS RAT IS STILL AWAKE
true viper
if blizzard doesnt do anything for balance i might have to step in and see what i can do
vital hound
lol
true viper
I might have to intervene
lofty depot
if blizzard doesnt do anything for balance i might have to step in and see what ...
just go retweet gamz tweet
misty patrol
lofty depot
oce we'll just fuck oursleves
i mean ....... its early for u and late for eu
idk what u want
ripe slate
since we hit cap so easily maybe its time to untalent foe xdd
lofty depot
since we hit cap so easily maybe its time to untalent foe xdd
we dont hit cap
ripe slate
what
vital hound
we dont need tettles
ionic oak
we need his social reach
vital hound
we need krona
ripe slate
no way we dont get 6% spellpower even with 2%
lofty depot
i dont think they touched it
ionic oak
KRONA!
dense steeple
tettles dooming cause he needs to rewrite his guide
vital hound
we need goop to drop some slurs
ripe slate
?
vital hound
cause then blizzard will listen
dense steeple
we need goop to drop some slurs
goop would never
vital hound
goop would never
do you want the image
lucid olive
ive hit random numbers
Go Stormwind Stockade
vital hound
lofty depot
Go Stormwind Stockade
true
dense steeple
im gonna go cry myself to sleep now
errant flint
im putting this discord next to the DH discord
lucid olive
That's the dryad spells
craggy sonnet
1200%
errant flint
2/10 only for dreamgrove.gg
delicate perch
ec is fucked
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
lofty depot
i was barely off the cap a few times then
vital hound
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid ...
bro is actual based
lofty depot
i pressed int trinket so one sec
dense steeple
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
vital hound
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
wintry scroll
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
vital hound
ripe slate
Okay, enough dooming. I'll just wait and see how it all works out once the raid actually opens. Either we do well or we don't, but I'm still gonna play. 😄
ionic oak
nice
ionic oak
if you believe. i believe
merry crow
Oh no, we suck again
ionic oak
crisp topaz
Surely 
ionic oak
it either is fine or it isnt. we cant do anything bout it
vital hound
normal pilot
you'll be fine just play EC
lofty depot
it either is fine or it isnt. we cant do anything bout it
u could tweet about it
they're known to listen to feedback
just change ur name to kalamazi first
solemn idol
EC with all the haste imaginable to avoid slow ass starfire casts just to feel normal again 🙁
ionic oak
mastery has left the chat
solemn idol
Hello? "Yes Id like PI as I cast only my starfires. Yes Im serious. Thanks."
ionic oak
Step 1, trick guidl to let you raid as boomkin
nova ocean
Wtf did they just do to put new tier set lol
lofty depot
took it out back
normal pilot
it's worth 4 surges every time you press CA
lofty depot
i crit for like 21m
timber grove
1200% of 0 is still 0
lofty depot
nah it does like 10% of my dam
8.5 + 1.2 = 9.7
thats a 1m pull so less over time cuz tahts 2 ca's
eternal monolith
So does that put Boomkin in play, or are they just still far behind others?
normal pilot
it was a nerf
lofty depot
we werent far behind before this
stone ledge
we are behind tanks basically
nova ocean
Do we even want new tier now or we have to play ev
lofty depot
now we are
nova ocean
Ec
delicate perch
Reroll it is
delicate perch
lofty depot
that is the opener lil pup
on my frost mage or
stone ledge
do a 5 min sim
surely it gets better
lofty depot
i gotchu brb
meager storm
So does that put Boomkin in play, or are they just still far behind others?
bro that was a 13% nerf or some sht
we are DONE
funny dev
good one now push the actual changes
delicate perch
So does that put Boomkin in play, or are they just still far behind others?
In play (do not play)
lofty depot
didnt blue post about it either
solemn idol
Thats one of the more frustrating parts. If youre going to do something dont wait until late in the day and not say anything about it... especially when there were release notes published the same day.
nova ocean
@meager storm change name to glorps chosen?
nova ocean
Ya it's giga cringe to do this last minute when we can't change anymore probably
nova ocean
with this sht tier set
lofty depot
Thats one of the more frustrating parts. If youre going to do something dont wai...
late in the day... u mean 5 days before 11.2 laucnh
ionic oak
I believe blizz can figure something out by tomorrow
If not monday. no work weekend so yeah. Believe!
Theres always hope. Never give up
lofty depot
u ever hate someone for being overly positive
merry crow
they clearly wanted to tune the ratio of % gain from 2pc and 4pc they just giga overnerfed. hopefully they bump the int up to 18x or something
ionic oak
Lol
ionic oak
Im opting to not crash out right now.
Ima wait till Tuesday
clever vigil
ionic oak
Yeah. Im missing something
delicate perch
Theres always hope. Never give up
Never hope, always give up!
crisp topaz
Never hope, always give up!
amen
elder remnant
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are we playing dragons and mages?