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livid jay
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hell nah

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starfire does insane damage

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and ap

high vapor
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okie

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oh this is where I saw

lucid olive
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Classic

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That line should disappear when you check Lunar Callings box but it doesn't

jolly delta
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If only there could be a nice checkbox syntax....

lucid olive
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I think Wowhead checkbox syntax is pretty similiar

jolly delta
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[span display-options="DOTC-ST"]

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yea

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idk I have bbforum syntax

lucid olive
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I like how on Wowhead you can check like "elune's chosen" box and it auto checks all the boxes below that correlates with the EC build

jolly delta
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can do that

lucid olive
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Yee but our rotations are separated for EC and Keeper already

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Could lock each section behind a checkbox I guess but they're already collapsible

jolly delta
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i'm still not convinced what's better from a ux standpoint

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if having both on the screen or just having one collapsible that switches

lucid olive
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Unsure

jolly delta
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Also

lucid olive
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I'd lean towards the one that requires less clicks from user

jolly delta
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This needs to go

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I keep getting baited into thinking that is the priority

lucid olive
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Yeah it's bad

high vapor
lucid olive
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Could put it behind collapsible

jolly delta
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And the dropdowns need to be more visible

lucid olive
high vapor
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ok thanks

vital hound
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need to be clearer

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imo

delicate perch
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just add "WHILE IN X HERO TALENT" to every line

delicate perch
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(it'll still get ignored)

tawny mesa
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Kings, does someone have a WA that for the stacks of dreamstate?

lucid olive
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Get the pack, yoink the weakaura out and delete the pack

crisp badger
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it's really simple to custom make it yourself though, just set the triggers and displays and you're good to go

frank solstice
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hi all

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stats stats stats

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how much of each secondary should I aim for?

tawny mesa
severe hollow
frank solstice
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nooo

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I mean I do when I get gear

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but my ass is not simming gems and enchants im sorry cro <3

severe hollow
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so use the cheapest ones

delicate perch
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1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 of each stat then

frank solstice
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i never thought of dat

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will do

delicate perch
frank solstice
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o7

delicate perch
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filter by cost and buy the whatver costs the most

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money = dps

frank solstice
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so true

severe hollow
frank solstice
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oh wow i have image perms in here awesome

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check out this awesome interaction i had today

delicate perch
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no... kappa

frank solstice
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now real question where do I get the different travel forms and flight forms?

lucid olive
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barber

frank solstice
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real talk where do i GET them

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not change them

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pretend its my first ever expansion and i don't have any customization options because you need to do old content for it

cloud lion
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Quests drops from rares elite there is shitload of them check wowhead and see which one u like and start farming

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Mage tower

frank solstice
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oh damn that's crazy never mind then!

lucid olive
digital berry
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@lucid olive killed gally yesterday are you proud of me ?

lucid olive
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i saw

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big gamer

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now reclear next reset so you can get on all star

frank solstice
frank solstice
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they should all be unlocked by default like a real video game :)

lucid olive
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if it says the name of the achievement or whatever it drops from then you can wowhead to see where it is specifically

frank solstice
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or they should be locked behind some kind of content that is still relevant

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yeah ik ik

lucid olive
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damn i must have gotten a bad version of elden ring then

frank solstice
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no but they don't make you farm 10 year old content

lucid olive
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i didn't start the game and be insta max level

frank solstice
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every version of elden ring is a bad version

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i spit on elden ring

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waiting on lies of peak dlc

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they should lock certain armor sets behind playing dark souls 1

severe hollow
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thats some hot takes

frank solstice
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you should have to play demons souls if you want the greatswords in elden ring :^)

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sorry I get to be a little inflammatory as a treat

craggy sonnet
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seems like someone did not make it past margit

frank solstice
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elden ring is too easy

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they ruined the series

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🚬

lucid olive
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seems like someone can't do world quests for flight form

frank solstice
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i miss classic

craggy sonnet
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then play classic

frank solstice
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either make it part of the game to unlock this stuff or just unlock it already

lucid olive
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now you can go do classic content for flight forms!

frank solstice
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it's one of those retail brain things that no actual humans think is a good idea

severe hollow
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lol

frank solstice
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yes go grind 10 year old content for a rare drop to get customization

lucid olive
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i think its a you issue

craggy sonnet
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cant listen to this moron any longer

frank solstice
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so rude

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why he say fuck me

jovial geyser
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Greetings:
I am looking for some help with my damage in Mythics. I am a new player having nit played since MoP. (It’s a totally new game!)

I have read the wowhead and dreamgrove posts but still feel I’m messing something up.

I don’t personally log but have some fights recorded by others if you the community wouldn’t mind reviewing to help me out.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jg4zf168FXyRdrBP?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=213

lucid olive
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muyst be asmon viewer

frank solstice
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you can call me whatever you want, but never call me an asmond viewer

craggy sonnet
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people with strong opinions on asmon prolly worse than those just watching

frank solstice
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I will discontinue this conversation as this is a druid discord

cloud lion
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Damn this is bad troll version of me

frank solstice
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all I'll say is you're actually on some strong shit if you think it's good game design that I have to go look up what rare mob from which expansion has a chance to drop something that allows me to change how my character looks

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I'm all for cosmetics being a reward for doing something difficult or rare

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but doing literally any content from any old expansion you 1 shot everything with moonfire

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it's not a test of anything it's a waste of time

cloud lion
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Why we farm current gear and tmogs if it will be old content in 2 months

frank solstice
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then make it so you can't get it anymore

severe hollow
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different people enjoy different things and a lot of ppl enjoy collecting shit

digital berry
frank solstice
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wow players are delusional it's hilarious

cloud lion
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But he should have it too cuz some1 with 50 alts got it 2 years ago

frank solstice
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I can get it

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I just have to go moonfire mobs from an expansion that came out during the obama administration

craggy sonnet
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then go get it

frank solstice
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until i get it

cloud lion
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I smell minecraft or valorant or fortnite

frank solstice
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I smell top 0.1% player in my first season playing this game

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and then I'm going back to actual video games

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made for human beings

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not heroin for boomers

severe hollow
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so just stop playing it?

cloud lion
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Yap minecraft it is

severe hollow
digital berry
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I was sure he was doing a bit but not so sure anymore

severe hollow
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minecraft is the game you farm 10+ year old content which is easy

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thats literally what he complains about

frank solstice
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my favourite game is outer wilds, you should play it :)

scarlet tapir
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bro looked on tiktok for personal top 10 videogames

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and wrote whatever was first on most lists

frank solstice
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boomer cope in here is insane

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ah those darned kids and their....minecraft

scarlet tapir
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im pretty sure ur above the average age here but sure

lucid olive
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probably not

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wow is boomer game

frank solstice
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yeah I'm gonna go with probably not

scarlet tapir
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stop ragebaiting bro

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...

frank solstice
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I can tell this guy's younger than me for saying ragebaiting

scarlet tapir
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whats ur peak in sf6

frank solstice
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ts pmo sybau šŸ„€

frank solstice
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my goat

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i didnt realize he was chill like dat

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I only played on launch and got to diamond but I have like 67% wr with mr edmund honda

lucid olive
frank solstice
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sadly the place I live at I'm on wifi with no option for ethernet and I don't want people to have to endure my connection so I haven't played much

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nah blanka and honda

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good honest footsies

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e honda player but in a st mp neutral jump hp wet blanket anti air machine wayt

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not in a headbutt spam way

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I play honda like guile

scarlet tapir
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im diamond on terry but with controller, but i bought a leverless pad and imt rying to learn it so i havent played much outside of training room

frank solstice
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you play cotw?

scarlet tapir
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nah, maybe i buy when its on discount

frank solstice
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sadly i think the playerbase already gone but it was hella fun

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anyways I'm waiting for tekken to be playable again

scarlet tapir
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i dislike tekken solely due to the visuals and the flowness of everything

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looks like a game stuck in 2005

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compared to sf6 at least

frank solstice
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gameplay more nuanced

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we should take this chat to off topic

viral veldt
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Hey yall, do unfinished keys not show parses % on Warcraft logs? Or am I doing smth wrong

scarlet tapir
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balance chat is the off topic chat...

frank solstice
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oh so true my bad

scarlet tapir
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unless theres a filter for untimed keys

viral veldt
frank solstice
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does not finishing the key count as doing something wrong

iron chasm
frank solstice
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you'll understand in time

frank solstice
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it's high key stuff

cloud plover
scarlet tapir
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dont come in here asking questions

iron chasm
scarlet tapir
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no, its THE balance channel

frank solstice
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yeah its the place where druids dream of throw loops being nerfed in street fighter 6

cloud plover
iron chasm
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I’m so confused. There’s nothing about why my solar eclipse is bugged. No matter what I do I can’t go to solar. I can’t do single target

frank solstice
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yeah I'd ask for any advice but I think I just need more gear to do bigger number

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there's a talent in ur hero talent tree that means you can't go to solar :)

cloud plover
royal zenith
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this is why you dont belong here puppy

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unfortunate

cloud plover
royal zenith
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can't even recognize copy pastas

iron chasm
royal zenith
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what are you, a sprout?

cloud plover
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I've had a meme session with gamz I'm well aware

lucid olive
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Booty is bored I guess

teal sphinx
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^

frank solstice
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holy shit its saint pepsi

brisk tangle
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Omfg

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Its Pepsi

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Himself

cloud plover
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but you have to take any chance you can to dunk on this spec

iron chasm
frank solstice
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I heard a skylar spence song playing in public like a year ago

royal zenith
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shit, it's pepsi

royal zenith
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bring kekkers and arctic into the mix

frank solstice
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the monkeys? <3

royal zenith
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and we're quite literally doomed for life

lucid olive
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Arctic sleeping (thank god)

teal sphinx
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is fucking rude

royal zenith
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correct

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:)

iron chasm
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Arctic is probably theory crafting mage like some traitor

lucid olive
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Yeah arctic brings value

teal sphinx
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@ mods can we ban Leux

cloud plover
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+1

teal sphinx
iron chasm
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I killed gallywix guys what a boring end boss

frank solstice
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anyone here mess with lei wulong

iron chasm
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And I beat Clair obscur

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Now I’m lost

frank solstice
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play outer wilds :)

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thank me later

cloud plover
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play vellum

quiet drift
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play signalis

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or armored core

iron chasm
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I actually re-downloaded marvel rivals and helldivers

frank solstice
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play ultrakill or emulate godhand

royal zenith
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you killed gallywix with around 25% more damage

teal sphinx
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play PantsGrab

royal zenith
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of course it's boring

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!

frank solstice
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every boss is fun when you're undergeared

iron chasm
lucid olive
scarlet tapir
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are u actually alt raiding in his guild

teal sphinx
teal sphinx
cloud plover
iron chasm
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My 2 night dad guild really pulled it off getting frostmourne front page

lucid olive
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They're faster at crafting for me though

iron chasm
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Dude doesn’t sleep and crafts every thing

frank solstice
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shoutouts to the same like 3 people who show up whenever i need something crafted

lucid olive
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I need to log on and do the vision thing on NA too

teal sphinx
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yea our main crafter is like able to hop on 24/7 so you post shit, then post in discord and within 10 minutes its crafted

cloud plover
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joining guild for raiding red_cross

joining guild cuz 24/7 active omnicrafter āœ…

iron chasm
lucid olive
teal sphinx
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i havent done it either, but i was gone all day tuesday and got home wednesday late and just went to bed

severe hollow
scarlet tapir
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or how does it work

teal sphinx
lucid olive
heady herald
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Hey how do u use bis weapon with incar?with one on use trinket?

scarlet tapir
iron chasm
cloud plover
lucid olive
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And then didn't get to keep the AH mount I paid 80 euros for..

iron chasm
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What kind of ping do you get eu to na

lucid olive
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Uuuh like 120

royal zenith
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a blue one

lucid olive
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Very playable

iron chasm
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I think oce to eu is absolutely cooked

royal zenith
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very ugly color

frank solstice
iron chasm
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But to na I think it’s like yeah 120

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Is it what 180-220?!

lucid olive
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On OCE I got 350

frank solstice
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oce to anywhere fuckin sucks because our infrastructure is garbage

lucid olive
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Made a frostmane character so Sheep could give me gold

teal sphinx
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ong, i get better ping from EU to NA than NA to some OCE servers

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its wild

frank solstice
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arthus' iconic sword, frostmane

severe hollow
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oce prolly a lot worse

iron chasm
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Yeah oce has bad net in general

severe hollow
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thats not being bad net

frank solstice
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depending where you are on eu, eu is further from aus than america

severe hollow
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thats just being far

iron chasm
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Idk how it works I just play games

frank solstice
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name 3 games

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name 3 games with no rpg elements

iron chasm
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I think when I played Star Wars battlefront 2 a bit even the further na servers were 200+ ping

lucid olive
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server location might be the reason i guess

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and restarting resets the shard

severe hollow
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200s for westcoast sounds about right tho

lucid olive
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was doing dratnos weeklies for his famous weekly vault videos

maiden pasture
iron chasm
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Playing with the cool uncle of wow raiding

frank solstice
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anyone here know the correct fingering technique for the intro to "come on come over" by jaco pastorius im having some trouble with it

lucid olive
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experienced the dratnos weekly cinderbrew route

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(pulled everything)

iron chasm
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That sounds peak

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My weeklies now days are 4 players and some 600 ilvl alt

lucid olive
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yeah that checks out

iron chasm
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Keys are done now anyway

lucid olive
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id play my NA character a lot more if I wasn't so valorstone capped

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its actually such a bad system

iron chasm
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Yeah it’s pretty unreal

lucid olive
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I had 100 gilded crests and like 60 valorstones

iron chasm
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Even when turbo came out I had to pillage all my alts for valorstones

lucid olive
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and the character has like 4 crafted items cause i get valorstone capped and theres nothing else to send upgrades on

iron chasm
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I’m keen to finally reclear tho, was watching oab and can’t believe how different that boss is post nerfs and turbo

lucid olive
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on EU its fine cause i have the discount but if you play separate accounts its so insanely bad

scarlet tapir
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bro

iron chasm
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You just keying NA or gonna raid too?

scarlet tapir
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leveled from 0

jade flume
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Its fully useless currency

scarlet tapir
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with 0 xp buffs

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just to play with dr. atnos

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...

jade flume
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It has 0 reason to exist

lucid olive
iron chasm
lucid olive
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also for the first week i just used it to test out UI stuff

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cause i wanted to get off elvui and try out unhalted or whatever

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but it sucks as well so

lucid olive
scarlet tapir
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NA raid hours are illegal for EU

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its almost always like 3 am

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or sometihng

lucid olive
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done some heroic alt raids with arctic and respectable and stuff

lucid olive
scarlet tapir
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i like to sleep ty

lucid olive
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i'd be down if i could get into like a 4/8m or 5/8m run or something on NA

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but idk how feasible that is really

iron chasm
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1am is brutal

lucid olive
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its fine i wake up at 2pm anyway

iron chasm
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The dream

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Just play with an oce guild and day raid

lucid olive
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no i like to do regular people stuff during the day

frank solstice
jade flume
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Days gone

lucid olive
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nah the day lasts until 6pm

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thats 4 hours of showering, eating, procrastinating and going for a drive

royal zenith
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a drive

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professional drug collector...

eager raft
scarlet tapir
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is that worth 60€

eager raft
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should be

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if i thought you would play with me id have a eu account rn

cloud lion
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so for best in slot and house of cards just put them in inc macro use 16 and use 13 or w/e

brisk tangle
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What do you guys thibk about the addon changes wow is doing?

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addons that track cds will be purged

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And wont work anymore

frank solstice
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surely it's just a way of making them more accessible for new poeple

lucid olive
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yeah surely

iron chasm
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Yeah I’m sure there will be something with almost identical functionality just blizzard based

lucid olive
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surely we will not go back to using "/yell I just used Celestial Alignment and it is back up in 100 seconds!"

iron chasm
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Fellowship did a pretty good job of internal cd tracking + internal dbm etc

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So it’s def doable

frank solstice
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i miss the pirate dungeon in fellowship

iron chasm
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Game was very fun, pretty keen to see it in its next playable phase with a few more characters

frank solstice
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sadly its what got me into wow

iron chasm
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Playing tariq on oce ping was not fun

frank solstice
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dw it wasn't fun for my oce friend playing on oce ping

pliant dawn
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i do visions only as balance now, but someone tried as tank? maybe its easier?

jade flume
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I tested as shadow priest and disc priest, both made me want to end myself

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In game ofc

digital berry
jade flume
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Literally impossible on priest

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Had to do 8 visions to finish quest gg

slim iris
tawdry trellis
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How many vaults have we had in 11.1 so far?

slim iris
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Like 8

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Or something

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Maybe 9-10

quiet drift
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Isnt it like 12

tawdry trellis
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yeah I'm thinking at this point it's 9-10

quiet drift
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Gallagio rep -1?

slim iris
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We got a few tracks insta and then there was bug rep so not sure

tawdry trellis
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idk. I just know it's been all those vaults have have yet to see a mythic track pants or chest. It's wild I haven't had this stretch of bad luck in a long time

slim iris
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You are right actually

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S2 March 4th

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Felt later

tawdry trellis
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11 vaults from march 4th

quiet drift
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the WoW timebubble

slim iris
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What happened to the pash

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Disappeared into thin air 2 years ago

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Pop back in

tawdry trellis
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how can 11 vaults just not contain 6 different options of pants or chest

tawdry trellis
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Only time 7,7,7 dropped is when I had a Heroic Moxie, HoC, and Myth Priory drop all in the same week that was painful

lucid olive
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ping me for weekly keys whenever idm

slim iris
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When I log in it’s like 2am for you

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I think

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But I need mage key tonight

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And charity shaman key

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(648)

round field
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Slacker

slim iris
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I have done 9 keys this week @round field

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I need to finish tonight

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Because I am gone rest of week

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Login

eager raft
slim iris
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Later gang

eager raft
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ill b there

ancient violet
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Is there any good Twitch channel or High Key or Mythic Raiding Boomkins?

digital berry
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Dwilkz streams sometimes idk how often tho

lucid olive
royal zenith
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I usually just look in the mirror

digital berry
lucid olive
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for raiding you can add dsune_ and recruitie to the list

digital berry
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doesn’t he play hunter or smth

royal zenith
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recruitie likes to alt on survival yes

eager raft
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?????

digital berry
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What about somaloria ?

lucid olive
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okay when was last gilly streamed moonkin raid

eager raft
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last week

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maybe this week

lucid olive
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nvm he streamed yesterday

shy bay
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Whats up with the new recomendation of Potion of Unwavering Focus on the wowhead guide? Ist there an ilvl/stat breakpoint?

modern cradle
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whats the ST sim to aim for, like whats our cap with bis?

weary berry
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is neural synapse enhancer generally good for us

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or nah

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for m+

lucid olive
weary berry
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doesnt it have the right secondaries

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oh i see

lucid olive
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also has less primary stat than any other weapon

weary berry
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its lacking a ton of intellect

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weird

lucid olive
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to make up for the use-effect that doesnt really align for us

weary berry
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mm

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thoughts on heroic best in slots vs crafted 681?

lucid olive
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crafted 681

lofty depot
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Crafted and always sim it

weary berry
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Sims say 681 but i stupidly used my dinars on the heroic best in slots

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instead of cards or jug

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so im trying to justify it now

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(i returned to wow 4 days ago)

lofty depot
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Well ur not gonna be able to justify it

weary berry
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im gna delete my druid atp

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it's so cooked

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5 more weeks for guaranteed double trinket

lucid olive
tawdry oak
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hey

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whats the dog root tech in workshop

teal ferry
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if we arent using MDT sim is it just 1 target and 5 target patchwerk sims?

lucid olive
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yes

weary berry
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if i intend to push title

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lol

lucid olive
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good time

weary berry
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sigh

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aight

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cheeres

shut trench
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in the meta comp, is it the best situation to starfire Bigmomma or starfire adds all the fight? Floodgate dung

lucid olive
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Starfire momma and Starfall adds right

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then swap when it has shield

teal ferry
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I have Myth track 85-year ring in my vault, 1T and 5T sims put it barely behind Cyrce's. Feels bad to take the socket, is there a case to be made in not following sims here and going for the higher ilvl?

shut trench
lucid olive
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yeah

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thats what i do anyways, don't think it really matters that much

shut trench
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opinions kind of differs, some top boomies starfire adds and some boss thought they are all playing the same comp

lucid olive
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if you see boss is about to get shield and the adds arent dying

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then swap

lucid olive
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Circlet is losing out in some MDT sims so you could try that

lofty depot
grizzled glen
teal ferry
lucid olive
cloud plover
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!dungeonsims

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gg

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L discord

jovial geyser
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Looks like this discord has quieted down some about off-topic subjects. So I’m going to repost this hoping it gets seen.

Greetings:
I am looking for some help with my damage in Mythics. I am a new player having nit played since MoP. (It’s a totally new game!)

I have read the wowhead and dreamgrove posts but still feel I’m messing something up.

I don’t personally log but have some fights recorded by others if you the community wouldn’t mind reviewing to help me out.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jg4zf168FXyRdrBP?fight=8&type=damage-done&source=213

lofty depot
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Off-topic subjects KEKW

digital berry
lucid olive
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macro trinket to incarn

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don't press Wrath inside incarn

cloud plover
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Gamz noob

lucid olive
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there is a lot of this where you're triple or quadcasting Wrath for no reason

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don't press damaging spells outside of Eclipse unless you are pressing Incarnation immediately after

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cancelled 2 Wraths for no reason

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don't even know what is happening here

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entered Eclipse, sent 2 instant Starfire casts from WoE, used trinket, dotted mobs and then used FoE?

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20 seconds after that trinket in the previous message you used incarn

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Should have saved the trinket

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on 1st boss Rookery

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not even gonna comment on that one

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If you want a short checklist of things you could work on, then it's:

1: Get proficient with knowing when you should move and when you can greed so you don't end up in situations where you cancel 3 Wraths trying to enter Eclipse but there's a beam on your ass that you should have known 30 seconds ago was coming and could have positioned/planned for
2. You had 10 uses of Wild Charge through the key, that is very low, Wild Charge is an incredibly good button for doing quick movements while keeping uptime
3. Macro your cooldowns to your trinket and nature's vigil

royal zenith
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Okay

lucid olive
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you're also troll and used Berserking 6 times, macro that as well

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#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment
/use 13
/cast Nature's Vigil

"use 13" is your top trinket slot, can put "use 14" if your trinket is in the other slot

lofty depot
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That doesn't say /cast Berskering

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So not gonna cast it

lucid olive
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yes race change to night elf

lofty depot
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Oh, I'm poor I cant

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The changing color for moonfire/Sunfire moonkins are in shambles

dense steeple
lofty depot
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Rekt rekt rekt

sick cipher
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Am I griefing myself if I hide all the other Debuffs and only show Starfire & moonfire dots on plater nameplates? On my DK I only track a couple dots/debuffs and blacklist everything else in plater. Can I get away with that on boomie? Or am I missing something else I should be tracking. It seems like there’s a lot of passive (not manually applied) debuffs showing up and it makes it less obvious what has both dots applied, esp in larger pulls. Also not playing it at peak content, just like +10-12 and hc raid.

fervent merlin
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You can

sick cipher
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Thanks

south plank
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does anyone know a sick balance druid plater profile?

lofty depot
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Probably wowhead

craggy sonnet
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started typing this an hour ago and forgot to send

tawdry oak
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cheers

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does everyone have to walk up to the rooted dog

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and get in combat with it?>

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some guy was saying in group we all need to stand on the dog first or something

stoic grotto
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have they fixed the mechagon root dog tech

jovial geyser
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@lucid olive thank you so very much!! That’s exactly the criticism I wanted! I am so use to classic boomkin and snap shoting dots. And really still learning fights. I will work on the points you’ve listed!

Thank you again.

jovial geyser
lucid olive
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Dots are not "damaging spells" in that sentence

jovial geyser
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šŸ‘šŸ»

lucid olive
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Your typical damaging spells are Starfire/Wrath/Starsurge/Starfall usually, and the rest of your spells serve as damage activators in a priority list

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Sunfire/Moonfire are highest priority
Incarnation/CA is 2nd
Eclipse is 3rd
Fury of Elune is 4th

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the rest of the rotation is just minmax that net you maybe 1% damage at best

weary berry
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if im capped on AP and 1/2 wraths to enter eclipse do i starsurge first

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also if dots fall off during eclipse do i reapply during or when out

lofty depot
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  1. Dont be in that situation.
  2. If ur in m+ Starfall will update dynamically so would be better.
lofty depot
weary berry
weary berry
eager raft
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sorry i was talking to arctic

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i told him to google goatse

lofty depot
weary berry
lofty depot
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Ap doesn't sky rocket like that

indigo snow
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Hey guys, im sure this was asked a milion times, but couldnt find it. If i can get myth items from dungeons but only hero from raid, where do i spend cartel ? The pin is not clear on that

lofty depot
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The pin is clear, read the underlined part before the chips

indigo snow
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I cannot sim because im far from optimal gear at this point, thats why im asking what would be rougly best for endgame gear once i farm it up

formal crest
strange edge
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You can still sim your current gear or your potential, future gear.

lofty depot
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I'm a mage

formal crest
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bald

worthy crest
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Do i understand the compendium correctly that in st with elunes chosen build it's more important to use cds, upkeep dot and enter eclipse than to not overcap astral power?

lofty depot
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Uhhh overcapping asp is bad

worthy crest
lofty depot
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Rolls d20

maiden pasture
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bis trinket

scarlet tapir
wooden holly
maiden pasture
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any chads done 5mask as bamkin yet

vast jungle
scarlet tapir
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(i dont care about it)

maiden pasture
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its good for alt gearing

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free warbound champions pieces

lofty depot
scarlet tapir
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time is money friend

lofty depot
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As such, when entering incarn u can have asp then spend it in incarn

vast jungle
lucid olive
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but it also doesn't mean you should use spells when you're full on AP

vast jungle
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Dont make it too complicated for yourself:

  • Keep dots up
  • Make sure you are in eclipse
  • Dont overcap on AP
  • Dont cancel casts unless you REALLY have to move (even if its the "wrong" cast)

You can try to minmax stuff like dreamstate and get too hung up on rotations etc. Not saying its bad to minmax or master the class but if u focus on the above its like 95% won

noble spindle
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Just cast something

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If ur thinking ur not pressing buttons!

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Better to cast wrong thing than nothing

lofty depot
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Note to self, don't think just cast

noble spindle
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Exactly

vast jungle
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Just W

viral veldt
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for comparison, I'm 676 ilvl and a boomkin under 660 was doing almost same dps as me. But his parses are even worse so idk what the hell is going on lmao

lucid olive
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which one is you

bronze tartan
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if carved blazikon wax and entropic skardyn core sim roughly the same, should I basically pick the vers trinket every time because it's more convenient?

viral veldt
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my stats

royal zenith
viral veldt
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not ideal.. cuz using wep enchant for healer and I should be higher on mastery I guess, but still..

royal zenith
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did you read any of the guides on ST rotation

viral veldt
lucid olive
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Sprocketmonger

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you kept entering Lunar Eclipse for some reason

viral veldt
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weird, I believe I opened all fights with the typical 2 wrath + dots + trinket/treant/incarn into convoke

royal zenith
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why are you casting Starfire on a ST fight

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is the question

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that's like Shadowlands gameplay, alternating eclipses

viral veldt
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good question, I should have recorded gameplay. Maybe I accidentaly messed up the rotation and ended up in lunar eclipse ?

lucid olive
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yeah thats the most likely thing

royal zenith
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possibly

lucid olive
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didn't notice Solar was expiring and kept casting Wrath

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ended up in Lunar

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stuff like this is where you lose most of your damage though

viral veldt
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can you find other mistakes?

lucid olive
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just not casting enough

royal zenith
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this ones a bit worse

lucid olive
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yeeee

viral veldt
royal zenith
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  • convoke randomly, for some reason
meager storm
viral veldt
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yeah I sometimes do convoke when I have to move, in order not to lose dps. big mistake I guess?

royal zenith
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you pop cooldowns like 20/25 seconds after

viral veldt
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from what I read, only convoke if treants are up, correct?

lucid olive
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moonkin is very reliant on uptime and layer your cooldowns in the right order

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convoke with both treants and CA

viral veldt
meager storm
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u are just not really paying attention to ur treants or cds at all, u held treants on the opener from 0:34 to 0:57 for no reason

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yes

lucid olive
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using wowanalyzer

meager storm
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then they came up at 1:27 and u didnt use them till 2:40 losing usages and without convoke

viral veldt
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yeah, like I said, I believe i'm messing up my CDs. Not having a dedicated weakaura kinda makes me lose focus on it I think.

viral veldt
meager storm
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well this is sprocket

meager storm
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there are no adds

lofty depot
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Oi's pack in the compendium is ur friend

viral veldt
# meager storm there are no adds

Right. This one I probably just didn't pay attention that they were up. Also I don't know exactly when I can use them while they wil be back up to use with my next CD

golden belfry
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45s

viral veldt
noble spindle
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drop some haste for any other stat

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sim ur stuff and see if u can fiddle around with ur stat allocation

viral veldt
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so, u always pop treants+ convoke or treants+CA if off CD? or are adds fase worth the wait sometimes

noble spindle
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convoke is always with treants + CA

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treants can go solobolo if nothing else lines up

viral veldt
viral veldt
# noble spindle drop some haste for any other stat

yeah I was geared for resto. like 45% haste and some mastery. From what I've read, m+ build for boomkin is also haste then mastery so I thought it was fine. But for raid i'm trying to get some more mastery intensive items

round field
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No

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Where did you hear that

noble spindle
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its always mastery

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mastery is like crack

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no matter what content

viral veldt
golden belfry
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You're never playing EC in this raid

round field
golden belfry
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But yeah in m+ you want mostly mastery and haste

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But also wowhead kekw

round field
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The fuck is that tettles

viral veldt
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yeah I know, that's what I said.. at first, for m+ it was fine haha

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but for raid looks like it's trash

golden belfry
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Starfires take a while to cast

noble spindle
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smh tettles

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cant believe anyone still trusts him after kyrian

lofty depot
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So do not press CA there

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U then hold ur CDs til 415/420

viral veldt
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well. apart from practicing CDs on dummy and getting big arse weakauras for my CDs, and eventually get more mastery if I wanna dps more.. do u guys recommend anything else I should do? Does any of those rotation helpers actually help to first get in my head the rotations? or eventually is there any liquid WA preset thing that recommends to use certain spells in certain parts of the boss?

lofty depot
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The problem with fucking up major CDs and gameplay loop into lunar. It changes everything else

viral veldt
cloud citrus
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a video guide might be mroe help to you at this point

lofty depot
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Again, u always convoke with CA and trees

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And if u were to press CA there, then u wouldn't have it up again til 510

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Which is 1m of holding convoke

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Very bad

viral veldt
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I see. so major dps loss to not align all cds all the time possible.

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any recommendation to macro signet with? perhaps convoke right?

round field
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Can just macro it to ca

viral veldt
viral veldt
merry ibex
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Does anyone else have Nature Grace bugging? When I wipe, I lose the talent.

lofty depot
lofty depot
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But I also cancel the buff precombat anyway soz it's not a problem usually

round field
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Ur usually never pressing a ca when signet is up and convoke isnt

sick cipher
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for m+ what should i macro my trinket with? Incarn?

meager storm
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ye

sick cipher
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and racial as well I assume?

snow sphinx
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Anyone have any tips for Boomkin in Heroic Invasions? About to try it out. Everyone says it’s the best class for it

slim iris
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Do you mean visions

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Uhhh I think the route is like

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Go left area first

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Route thru trade distract into mage district

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Run treant taunt

lofty depot
sick cipher
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berserking

lofty depot
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Play a better race

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Unforch

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Yea tho

lofty depot
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Wasn't even close to the edge

sick cipher
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šŸ˜‚

slim iris
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@lofty depot question

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How many msgs does it say I have here

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Can u look

viral veldt
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ty all for the feedback guys, I'll see how I can improve.
Just one more question, do u usually have talent changes according to boss on LOU?

lofty depot
slim iris
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Someone check

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Need 2 know

viral veldt
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Right. I use the talent trees from wowhead, there is a boss where it is specced into 1 min convoke but I don't understand why šŸ˜„ šŸ˜„

lofty depot
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Yea don't do that

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Use warcraft logs

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And see what people are using

slim iris
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That’s old from mugzee

meager storm
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85 348

slim iris
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Idt anyone is doing 1min convoke on that any more

lofty depot
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Eventually u get to the point where u just know what spells to move around cuz u know there's adds or not

slim iris
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I just look at wcl rankings

meager storm
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i somehow have 14k

lofty depot
slim iris
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I thought you would have more

lofty depot
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I'm going afk again

viral veldt
slim iris
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I’m only 85k?

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Good

meager storm
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i barely talk wdym lmao

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half of my messages are glorps

slim iris
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I guess

meager storm
slim iris
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Still counts

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Idk feels like I have seen a dece amount of msgs from you

meager storm
slim iris
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I did the math

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You’ve averaged very roughly

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5 glorps a day

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So ya

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Dece amount

meager storm
teal meteor
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hey im new at blance, which way do we sim m+? 5targets 5 minutes? oder smth else

lofty depot
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1t5m is the most consistent sim, MDT is another option but has CD timings that are fucked.

I send a 5m5t sim sometimes, but it's by no means a meaningful sim

thick badge
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how can i do a MDT sim?

scarlet tapir
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@eager raft

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the moon is full

lunar gulch
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so i have heroic HoC currently, mythic signet in vault, only other good option is ring from ML. I hate the 2 min lineup of signet... whats your move?

scarlet tapir
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we only answer vault questions tuesday-wednesday between 9-22

sacred rock
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hey guys is this normal that i have 69 intellect with 671 ilvl?

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69k

lofty depot
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why do it

brisk tangle
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i like running double on use idk

lunar gulch
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double on use is what sim suggests for almost every combo even with a 671 carved wax in the sim too, i havent done it in a while but dont remember being a fan. maybe better now with double incarn charge

proper sinew
sacred rock
proper sinew
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Read the item

sacred rock
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with choosing best in slot?

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i thought its stats will be change when i change spec

proper sinew
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No… if you read it, it tells you to use it out of combat to reconfigure it for ranged or melee

delicate perch
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me when I didn't read the item

sacred rock
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ahhh

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yea its ok now

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thx alot mate

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ā¤ļø

proper sinew
hexed warren
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what settings do we put for sim in m+?

dense steeple
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st 5 min

spare wedge
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anyone having issues with macro incarn and best in slots weapon? the macro wont use bis for some reason but uses everything else

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works for feral to put berserk and bis in same macro but wont work on balance

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this the macro i use
#showtooltip
/cast Incarnation: Chosen of Elune(Talent, Shapeshift)
/use Best-in-Slots
/cast Nature's Vigil
/use Tempered Potion

dense steeple
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99.2% stacked deck for the dungeon lmao

dense steeple
spare wedge
# modern cradle Try /use 16

Thank you, it worked. Weird tho that just the /use best-in-slots work on feral but not chicken, but again, thank you

digital berry
round field
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Why are ur colors weird

dense steeple
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??

round field
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It looks so bad

dense steeple
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what do you mean

round field
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That is NOT the monk class color

dense steeple
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it literally is lmao

round field
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No?

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Its a weird dark green

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Monk is bright green

proper sinew
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Might be hdr

round field
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How can people use hdr

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Its fucking disgusting

cerulean summit
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In the case of stix, after stix does sorting and spawns the adds, should I be going around sunfiring the bombshells/hyenas? I'm kinda torn, because once I pop cds, it feels bad to just start going around sunfiring the adds while ca is going. If you are trying to do the most amount of dmg in that phase is it worth throwing sunfire on everything or should you try to use as few globals on sunfire?

round field
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No u press trees incarn then spam starfall

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You dont bother sunfiring

cerulean summit
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unless they are grouped right?

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like on stix

round field
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Mby after ca sure

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Its like this

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But with starfall instead of surge

cerulean summit
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gotcha, yeah that would feel a lot better, because I noticed people like to pop trees and ca a tad bit before and start spamming starfall so that when the adds spawn everything is marked with moonfire

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just wasn't sure, but appreciate that!

iron chasm
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I can FEEL the colours using hdr

naive hazel
#

Moonkin! As a guardian main how gimped am I going to be with 6k mastery šŸ˜…

digital berry
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about 1/4th of the way there

midnight bay
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hey guys anyone can give a wa for starlod with sound when 2 sec left to cancel the wa?

digital berry
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you absolutely do not want to cancel starlord at 2 seconds every single time

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you probably don't ever wanna cancel starlord to begin with

fossil shard
digital berry
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do you think dwilkz looks like tom nook? @dense steeple

clever vigil
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yes

lavish token
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SOS

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fZeMx7znZUzPfj3Chjcgtw this is my sim its saying entorphic is better than house of cards just cause its mythic so i would be running that and moxxies ? seems sketchy what do u guys think about it any one better at running sims i dont know what im doing with it,,, this is the simc before its ran ive just thrown in max ilevel entropic in there is any one able to sim it with different settings to make sure its worth running ?

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if any one can help would really appricaite just trying to imagine a world where swapping that out for M+ is a thing

teal sphinx
lavish token
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right what the hell LOL

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whats a reliable way to run that then for dungon ?

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im not super familiar with raidbots

teal sphinx
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st Sim or mdt sims

lavish token
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is that a seperate website ?

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or weakaura ?

meager storm
maiden pasture
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when are they removing OAB from all stars

eager raft
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hopefully never

maiden pasture
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horrible fight

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starfall random booty mobs

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woohooooo

eager raft
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im a firm believer of leaving everything on all stars

maiden pasture
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imo stix belongs on all stars more than OAB

eager raft
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i do agree with that

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that if one should be removed its oab

lavish token
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how do i use that weakaura with raid bots?

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ive copied a route

maiden pasture
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The page explains everything

dense steeple
dense steeple
dense steeple
maiden pasture
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Anyone managed to 5mask full clear as moonkin yet

midnight bough
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i cant believe blizz is deleting addons

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i bet they cant even make addon replacements as good as the existing addons like cooldown manager

dense steeple
dense steeple
craggy sonnet
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in theory its a good thing for the game

dense steeple
lavish token
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question for the MDT simc thing what do i put mob health at for a 17

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thats my sim with the MDT

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does that look right ?

midnight bough
craggy sonnet
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cool

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dooming isnt either

midnight bough
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i can theory that it will be good but given blizz implementations before..

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i aint trusting that no way

craggy sonnet
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at least you can trust that everyone is on the same shit if they ever pull that trigger

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like you dont even know whats actually going to be affected

dense steeple
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@digital berry look at this fuckin meme dude

digital berry
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do you even have a sub button?

dense steeple
uncut whale
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hey guys! im looking to get better at battlegrounds with my druids, (balance and guardian), are there some youtubers that regularly stream this content?

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i want to get that honor lvl 80 guardian appearance, thought i might as well get good at pvp if i have to do that much

meager storm
uncut whale
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i thought about using skill capped but i heard so much mixed opinions, including money being scammed

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oh thank you

meager storm
drifting nova
covert coyote
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frost mage got 3% overall buff because it was getting down too close to balance druid

lofty depot
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need to buff boomkin in raid and nerf in m+

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or leave it neutral in m+

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go ahead and do that maff

dense steeple
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4% ST

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minimum

brave leaf
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If i enter an eclipse a few seconds before fon and ca come back up should i wrath til eclipse is over or just overwrite with ca?

lofty depot
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yea u can CA when its up

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suppose the other added thing is convoke

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but nonetheless

nova ocean
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Good class tuning pass blizzard can't wait for moonkin to be even lower on logs

covert coyote
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moonkin buffs are in their own separate post. they're reworking certain talents on top of giving us a 4% ST buff

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it'll get posted any minute now

nova ocean
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Naw they are waiting till after rwf next tier to give us another 3 percent to ss

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Because they don't have enough data to tell them moonkin does no st

lofty depot
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should just show them bandit log surely theyll understand what it means

nova ocean
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Kinda wild we got like wat a total of 12 percent or something added to our St this season and we still do the lowest boss damage in game

robust monolith
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whats the best use of best-in-slots? just round it with HoC between a stack of CA and other?

covert coyote
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ya

lofty depot
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2nd ca then some trees at like 245 or 330

nova ocean
covert coyote
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add it to your CA macro under HOC and let elune take the wheel

lofty depot
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ur the reason we dont get buffs

robust monolith
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im just using weapon with first stack under convoke and hoc with raw alignment + trees

lofty depot
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yea thats incorrec t

robust monolith
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ok

covert coyote
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use hoc first for the stack

lofty depot
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hoc first

robust monolith
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ye you are right im stupid holy

nova ocean
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Wat if u have signet instead of hoc

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Just curious

dense steeple
lofty depot
robust monolith
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last question, mdt sims doesnt calculate downtimes between one pack and other right? because i was getting insanely high sims in aoe with eye of kezan

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but i believe its only because it doesnt calculate downtimes

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is this correct?

dense steeple
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dont have downtime ez

robust monolith
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kek

dense steeple
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i did it today

robust monolith
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u took the toy?

dense steeple
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had 99.2% uptime on hoc buff

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no just natty chain pulling

robust monolith
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ayyy

dense steeple
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blasting

robust monolith
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ez

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ANLAKY

digital berry
robust monolith
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uptime into a psf 18

dense steeple
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oh mine was a cinderbrew 12

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xd

cloud plover
dense steeple
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@digital berry idk whats going on mnan

digital berry
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Can’t break through the last couple %? ?

civic junco
#

Gentlemen. Gallywix is kill

digital berry
dense steeple
ionic oak
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got to 10%. 1 hour left. maybe we kill it today

digital berry
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Helps to have a bigger roster to swap them out

eager raft
exotic perch
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gally is learning the first 4 minutes

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then the last 5 takes you like 5 pulls

misty glade
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^^ true. We got to p2 like twice before tonight, then we killed him tonight after like 5-8 p2 pulls

ionic oak
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its right there yall

cloud lion
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Next week gally will be under 7 min fight

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Im sure guild skiping last set of adds

digital berry
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P2 is lowkey so piss easy I was shocked

cloud lion
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We had wipe where no1 heard tank grip me with bomb

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U just see him on side yeet into void

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While mugs reclear is ass compare to any other

polar sinew
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does ursols work on technician?

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raid lead thinks it pulls the bomb back when it dies

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something like that

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for mythic gallywix

fossil shard
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Yes

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It yoinks the bomb back

polar sinew
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ooh neat

iron chasm
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That’s a gcd I can’t spend on doing damage though

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Surely some puny class like a hunter can just binding shot

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They want me bear form for a soak and use roar? And use ursols? Umm what gives? I’m a dps

royal zenith
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Damn you are so cool

lucid olive
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neat though

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i'll do that for 1 set this week and see if the guy doing the bomb notices

lucid olive
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had melee players wanting me to beam + ursols + typhoon the p2 technicians

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and then get complaints i don't do damage to the sentry adds

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mfer can't have both

crude portal
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Does ret do insane amounts of aoe dmg atm? Keep getting stomped in m+ overalls by em

round field
round field
jade flume
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Ret pipes

pallid bay
round field
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Yes?

loud kettle
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Nani ga suki?

pallid bay
vale pebble
cloud lion
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Retri do more dmg than dk in keys and he dont need stupid proc for ot

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It

royal zenith
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if people are surprised ret does a lot of damage

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they just not been playing the game