balance

[digital berry]

Mistake number one is listening to arctic

[crisp crater]

ah u mean dinar hoc

[ionic oak]

Lol

[crisp crater]

or vault

[lucid olive]

no i mean the weapon best-in-slots

[digital berry]

He means heroic bis is dog water

[lucid olive]

only good on myth track

[crisp crater]

the thing is my friend just rolled the trinket and told me if its upgrade for u come trade but for some reason that doesn't show anymore in sims xD so we both waiting

[lofty depot]

He used the word bis for the real meaning

[lucid olive]

just go get the trinket

[lofty depot]

And not the fake 11.1 meaning

[lucid olive]

always good to have stuff to swap around

[crisp crater]

it says 2% upgrade for him also

but he's a hunter

😄

[lofty depot]

Give it to ur friend then?

[crisp crater]

he have it already but he won't use it all runs as he said thats why he wanna see if its bis for me overall

and as u can see according to sim its not gonna happen

[lucid olive]

if he already has it then why cant he just trade it to you even if its a sidegrade!!

[lofty depot]

As u can see, I understood that and said give it to ur friend

But if he has it already, idk why he isn't upgrading it

[lucid olive]

let the guy keep it if its better for him, mythic priory better than hero house of cards (assuming you use incarn on the priory CD and dont have to hold priory)

[digital berry]

What is even going on at this point I’m so confused

[ionic oak]

Lol

[crisp crater]

not sure if its worth to take hoc hc or not thats it

[lucid olive]

well what confused me is what you said here

[digital berry]

Slightly worse maybe in sims but so much easier and convenient to play in keys

[lucid olive]

what does bis mean in that sentence

[crisp crater]

bandit wep

[lucid olive]

yes, did you kill bandit mythic?

[harsh geode]

I'm hearing from other class disc's that void ritual is bugged and not proccing as much as it should. Idk if it's spec specific tho. Are we still taking void for boomy?

[lucid olive]

cause the heroic weapon very bad

[crisp crater]

yes

[lucid olive]

okay

[ionic oak]

Damn baller

[lucid olive]

so dinar house of cards!!!

[crisp crater]

yeah in 2 weeks

[lofty depot]

Taking a heroic piece from friend when in 2 weeks will have way better version

[ionic oak]

So dont steal it from your friend

Yeah

[crisp crater]

we both will 😄

[lofty depot]

Based honestly

It's not an upgrade for u at heroic and is for him

[digital berry]

But he said his friend already has it

Like

[lofty depot]

Yea so idk disenchant it

[crisp crater]

in bag he didn't equip

[ionic oak]

Has it as in its in his friends bag

Not that his friend has 2

[digital berry]

Oh lmao

[ionic oak]

Bro. We are all retired in this discord

[lofty depot]

I think the story teller is

[ionic oak]

Lol

[lofty depot]

I'm functioning perfectly fine

[crisp crater]

but as i said it was upgrade maybe cuz my gear was shiter last 2 weeks that it

[digital berry]

Debatable

[lofty depot]

Says the dollar store robin hood

Let's chill.the fuck out

[digital berry]

At least I’m not afraid of showing my face

[lofty depot]

U right now

[slender dragon]

hey guys i struggle a bit on Ipa boss in brew, do you just sunfire adds and starfire them?

[digital berry]

Starfall

[inner pilot]

I don’t see want helm enchant to pick

[slender dragon]

wdym starfall

[digital berry]

It’s in the last pin

[digital berry]

Wdym wdym starfall

Are you surging ipa ?

[slender dragon]

i surge ipa and i starfire adds

[digital berry]

That’s a choice

[ionic oak]

I struggle with Ipa’s too

[slender dragon]

but im sure i can improve on it

[grizzled shoal]

when ads spawn push starfall

[digital berry]

It’s probably best to dot adds , probably wrath them unless in cds and they are stacked and starfall

[slender dragon]

i mean i know how to play the boss but i wanna min max for 19 actually

trying to find a good pov

like dwilkz, but no youtube vids

[lofty depot]

It doesn't really sound like u know how to play it

Cuz if there's 6 of the drops u should be starfalling

[ionic oak]

damn for a 19

[lofty depot]

Idk why it's a question

[slender dragon]

is sunfire only + starfire enough?

[digital berry]

Running 19s and surging ipa you’re not doing yourself a favor

[lofty depot]

Depends how far away they are

But again, u gonna not spend asp?

Just pres the Starfall button

[slender dragon]

obivously i starfall

i mean outside of that

[lofty depot]

Well u said u surge

So it's not obvious

[slender dragon]

i surge in aoe/dodge timing

i just talk about adds actually

[lofty depot]

U surge in aoe

[slender dragon]

in the aoe phase of the boss yes

[lofty depot]

Ok, so I'll reitterate

That's dumb

[slender dragon]

you starfall 100% of time even when adds are deads?

[jolly delta]

He didnt mean that

arctic cant read but you also weren't clear

[lucid olive]

LMAO

[jolly delta]

[ionic oak]

lol

[digital berry]

Don’t laugh at his jokes at my expense

[lucid olive]

nah why did you do emnithy like that

[lofty depot]

Blud is calling the damage swirlies AOE when I'm talking about the droplets/eles

Holy fuck

[spark anchor]

also why bring up “i’m doing 19s”

makes u look sillier

[lucid olive]

this is arctic so..

[lofty depot]

He was talking ish

[lucid olive]

also imagine being called gary

[digital berry]

Gary is unfortunate

[ionic oak]

Garyyeet

[lucid olive]

its like being called andy

[slender dragon]

because he said "starfall" like i don't know what to do so a bit of context helps

[lofty depot]

Ight, Norwegian rat. U sound like a goat when u talk

[lucid olive]

thanks i am the goat

[jolly delta]

blud is calling aoe phase the phase in which the boss deals aoe damage

[lucid olive]

🐐

[slender dragon]

yes

[loud kettle]

💀

[ionic oak]

this discord is gold this morning

[lofty depot]

Yea that's just not what I was referring to when I said Starfall the adds

It's after noon

Morning, spit

[lucid olive]

its 8pm bud

[digital berry]

people come in here from all sorts of skill levels, if someone I don’t know comes in asking what to do on ipa adds ima give them a basic advice

[lofty depot]

That do be afternoon stupid

[eager raft]

Nah

[loud kettle]

Its still morning for blizzard hq

[eager raft]

disagree

[ionic oak]

We out here by blizzard hq

[lofty depot]

R u Ion?

[lucid olive]

no thats the evening

[lofty depot]

Can u fix game

[ionic oak]

Nerf to boomkin? Sure

[lofty depot]

Um, sir that's after noon. Noon is a time

And it's after that

[eager raft]

after noon is different than afternoon

[jolly delta]

it's always after someone's noon......

[lofty depot]

Well I had a space in the first one

[jolly delta]

really makes u think

[lucid olive]

its 5pm somewhere

[digital berry]

I like how yall are dogging on him please continue

[lofty depot]

@eager raft

[spark anchor]

lol

[loud kettle]

Who is it referring to, and why are they always after someones noon

[lucid olive]

bro you should join the (very infrequent) DG voice chats if you wanna see Arctic get dogged on

[lofty depot]

Type shit

Gamz loves to hate

[eager raft]

vc?

[digital berry]

I feel like the moment I join everyone is gonna band together to attack me

[lucid olive]

i'm so glad arctic started playing again this expansion

[eager raft]

@hytes

[lofty depot]

But I'm the only one that stays up late at night with him

[eager raft]

Any1 remember hytes new name

[mighty mica]

lets not

[lofty depot]

@hytes

[eager raft]

I know you know it thyme

[digital berry]

Let’s not summon that here

[mighty mica]

i do know it

[eager raft]

Hytes is immaculate vibes

[mighty mica]

big incorrect

[digital berry]

If you love rotten vibes sure

[lucid olive]

@tawdry urchin

[mighty mica]

[digital berry]

[eager raft]

my goat

[lofty depot]

VC?

[eager raft]

thoughts?

[lucid olive]

crazy how hytes showed up 2-3 times but left this much of an impact..

[digital berry]

Looks like he didn’t answer the summons thankfully

[digital berry]

Yw what you’re right, gotta hand it to him

[eager raft]

I think it is very early in the morning in nz

[lofty depot]

Like 7 hours ago but tomorrow

[vital monolith]

will you be able to swap head enchant ?

[lofty depot]

U can buy the different ones

[light saddle]

This is on five targets over a minute and a half incase anyone else wants to try Twilight Devastation

[lofty depot]

Less than cats I cant

[digital berry]

1% fr the lesser enchant is on par

[lofty depot]

Maybe for ur dam

My infinite stars blasts

[digital berry]

Show parses right neow

[maiden pasture]

<@&114146878353833984>

[lofty depot]

@mighty mica

[shut trench]

finding relatively different sims for m+

[gentle scroll]

NOOO my sketchy github link 😦

[shut trench]

should we be relying on MDt sim primarily for m+?

[lofty depot]

No, because there's inconsistencies with it

[digital berry]

Just 1t5m and call it a day

[lofty depot]

Uhm, we were talking about damage diff. My parses are shit. I haven't killed bosses in weeks.

R45 sprocket tho. So I'm good at game

[digital berry]

Oh so no rank 1 got it

[leaden birch]

is bandit going to be much harder than sprocket

[eager raft]

Couldn’t be me

[leaden birch]

my guild finally decided to extend and go for CE

[eager raft]

nah probably not

[lofty depot]

Show ur top 20 ever

Bet u couldn't top 20 with wrong talents

We're not the same

[eager raft]

He is currently top 20 mugzee

[lofty depot]

Fake boss

Stupid damage hold I'm afk

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[digital berry]

I had a top 5 and top boss dmg on myth Mugzee for like a week, we’re NOT the same

[eager raft]

show your r2 with 15 seconds of afk in bear form

[lofty depot]

So true

Show ur weaver no Starfall rank 19

[scarlet tapir]

i can get sprocket loot if i kill for example oab right?

i always forget how that works

[eager raft]

Not with dinar

[digital berry]

Yes

[eager raft]

But in vault yes

[digital berry]

In vault

[lofty depot]

In vault ye

[scarlet tapir]

on vault i mean

[eager raft]

Yes twist you can 🙂

[scarlet tapir]

@eager raft i still got it or what

[eager raft]

hope youre having a good day 🙂

Yes still him

Not as good as me tho

[lofty depot]

Hunter log

Nice crop

[scarlet tapir]

no jastor, champion hoc, no moxie...

i think im still better than u sorry @eager raft

[digital berry]

Wait till I get out of gally prog and I’ll start being the greediest piece of shit for logs

[lofty depot]

Good guild, good kill time = better parse

[scarlet tapir]

copeee

[leaden birch]

[eager raft]

That is moonkin

[lofty depot]

Don't believe

Uncrop it

[eager raft]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/94543124

[scarlet tapir]

are chinese playing

syzygy

on oab

[lofty depot]

Disgusting

[scarlet tapir]

or am i tripping

nah im tripping

[eager raft]

buggin

[scarlet tapir]

someone should try it

and that someone should be @meager storm

[digital berry]

Dak too busy playing Ec in raid

[lofty depot]

If anyone was gonna try it, it would be recruitie

[meager storm]

Oab is just a pad fest

U need to bribe ur guild to let u pad

[eager raft]

no dak you’re supposed to be the boss damage guy

No padding

[digital berry]

Boomy boss dmg

[eager raft]

Respectfully if u don’t do good boss damage

It is not a reflection of the spec

[digital berry]

I do more boss dmg then you and your whole family blud

[eager raft]

😳

[cloud lion]

i was so hyped i will pad on stix than our shamy did 5.6m

[lucid olive]

yee

[digital berry]

You gotta sabotage them

[lucid olive]

i was told the R1 log just Starfire cleaves off boss perma

maybe EC angle??

[meager storm]

0 chance

That sht is insanely ass

[lofty depot]

0 chance he says

🤔

[meager storm]

Just check their p2 dmg to the booties

[digital berry]

Please god no

[meager storm]

They are perma on them

[cloud lion]

he funnel the shit out of hyenas

he even had 99 on boss dmg

[lucid olive]

yeah you have to perma starfall P2 to parse on bandit

shoutout to paper (god rest his soul) that said something like "its unfortunate in this raid you have to play like the biggest rat to parse"

[cloud lion]

i had idea to root hyenas awy from boss and pad them

[digital berry]

Yeah there’s so few pure st fights, always some add set to rat on

[lucid olive]

i dont think starfall does dam to rooted mobs

[cloud lion]

if they are doted or something

[round oracle]

better let them hit u for owl procs

[cloud lion]

they cant hit me if shamy did 5.6m overall and blast them

[digital berry]

Shamans also are hella rng

No

[cloud lion]

his rng was on point

he is like 150-200k to rank 2 overall

he did 500m to hyenas 30% of all hyenas dmg

[lofty depot]

Ursols

[cloud lion]

also scrapmaster were jumping under boss for his funnel

[lofty depot]

Typhoon then out too

[wide walrus]

Hey i see every top druid replacing Circlet, But my sims says the opposite on aoe and ST, any suggestion about that ?

[magic kelp]

top druid needs stamina to live

[lofty depot]

Your gear isn't their gear

[wide walrus]

Stamina is a good point, but my gear is almost the same as it's only missing "Best-in-slot"

[lofty depot]

Ur gear is missing 10 ilvls on 5 items

It's not "almost" the same

[digital berry]

They are fine taking a 13k dps decrease for more hp

[wide walrus]

Fair

[lofty depot]

Also w.e. the fuck that is

[digital berry]

A crime is what it is

[lofty depot]

Tunis > itnis

[digital berry]

Lmao what a roller coaster

[wide walrus]

?! uh, that's a pretty decent mastery MH if you dont do bandit ?!

[lucid olive]

pretty sure hes talking about the enchant

[wide walrus]

that's a really commun enchant like what ? and it sim way higher

[lofty depot]

Hmm

Tbf, I didn't know th name of the mastery one. I only see haste ones

[soft notch]

Feel free to tell me I'm snorting the copium, but I played balance last night for the first time in my guild's H raid. What am I supposed to do on fights with adds? I feel like even on OAB I was sitting there like "I dotted everything and now...oops it died. Why am I here?"

[lucid olive]

twiddle thumbs and thank them for bringing you

[lofty depot]

In heroic, dot the far adds maybe. Starfall 1-2 times. Go back to hitting boss

[digital berry]

At this point in the season on heroic you just go full st on most bosses

[soft notch]

I went into Stix thinking "Oh sick, boomkin boss" and then just got gapped by specs that can burst

[lofty depot]

I mean u can still top meter

[noble spindle]

Just single target then show them boss damage parse

:^)

[digital berry]

Id be curious to see a sim where that enchant gaps mainstat

[lofty depot]

But yea heroic with 30+ilvls what people were killing it originally

+12% raid buff + food buff thing + helm enchant

I mean, yea ur gonna do no dam to adds

Welcome to week 500 of tier

[wide walrus]

top 50 io druid btw 🙂

[lofty depot]

IDC what archon says

[digital berry]

Archon

[scarlet tapir]

Maybe hes checking the number 50

And not number 1

Huge diff

[lilac citrus]

we should take void ritual right ?

[sly frigate]

Yar

[fallen plover]

Did we get hit with some unseen balance changes this reset? 😮

[sly frigate]

Yar, once a week

[fallen plover]

Its one per week now afaik

They added the first three because ppl complained (rightfully) about it being timegated so badly.

[scarlet tapir]

[sly frigate]

Probably going to get Heroic Jastors as my first buy

Waiting to do the quest from today though just in case...

[noble spindle]

Why jastors

[sly frigate]

It big for me

[noble spindle]

Is it the biggest?

Cause size matters in here

[sly frigate]

I have a 8/8 House of Cards Heroic and 8/8 Mythic Carved Blazikon Wax
Don't have access to Mythic Bandit yet.

Sims were coming up as Jastor heroic fully upgraded being huge

[maiden pasture]

jastor is mahoosive

[sly frigate]

Is it ever worth spreading Sunfire around if the mobs are spread (and will stay spread)?

If it's on the boss and 1 mob already

[lofty depot]

If they live long enough

[sly frigate]

Bandit Mythic basically, sometimes feels like it's taking forever to manually dot every add before beginning on the focused-add / boss

[tulip depot]

Guys whats the prio between these in M+

i have 100 astral power

i still didnt put moonfire on everything

i am not in eclipse

[tardy vortex]

Should I just use a delves build for visions?

[sly frigate]

I just used my M+ build

[tardy vortex]

did you do full with a mask chieve?

[digital berry]

You don’t dot every add, you skip melee add

[crisp basin]

does anyone have a good plater profile they coould share to make it easier to see which targets are missing either moonfire or starfire?

[digital berry]

Don’t be in that situation is the priority, dot until almost capped, send a random starfall, finish hitting, enter eclipse

[digital berry]

Most people use jundies afaik

[sly frigate]

So only dotting the random add, and the Range-focus-add?

[crisp basin]

is that a plater profile?

[sly frigate]

Skipping the 3rd add (where the boss is, aka, melee)

[digital berry]

Yeah melee does too fast anyway

[tulip depot]

It happens very often where i leave a pull with like 60 70 astral power, and get it capped mid dotting

[digital berry]

Yeah you can probably find it in dreamgrove website in pins

[sly frigate]

NO dots, or just skipping Sunfire?

[digital berry]

I didn’t dot, unless it was the set I used cds on but idk if that was correct

[digital berry]

Well if it happens very often maybe you are doing it wrong very often

[tulip depot]

so do i just spend astral power for fun befor pull

[tulip depot]

i made a modification on Jundies that colors mobs different color if they have moon fire, but excludes casters

[digital berry]

Just don’t exit pulls with high ap knowing you will build it back up, overcapping a little bit is inevitable just don’t stay capped for 10 seconds dotting, send a random starfall

[junior stirrup]

Are we fine to push mugzee at like 3;30? We are pushing during jails so he is stuck in rp for a bit but it does mean we cant finger gun the adds

We had a 4.2% wipe but idk of its too risky in p2

[digital berry]

Idk why people stress over the adds

They do jack shit

[junior stirrup]

Its about 1.5m dtps in p2 and we are dying to bomb soaks so idk it ifs worth

That on top may be bad

But idk if other guilds are pushing then

[exotic perch]

nah they can fuck

kill em

[midnight bough]

Wtf is a horrible vision tribute

[exotic tide]

u basically get progression as u play the visions

and at certain thresholds u get a buff, in increasing tier

[floral ocean]

Too bad they didn't add a new quest to ilvl upgrade this stupid Siren Isle ring 😑

[midnight bough]

That ring is lowering my avg ilvl i hate it

[golden belfry]

Same

[lofty depot]

They don't want you wearing it forever

[leaden birch]

not sure if someone responded to you about it yet, but I run jundies + https://wago.io/GeHuM2FWx

[lavish token]

Hey question my sim says mythic entropic Skardyn Core sims wayyyy higher than my heroic house of cards and moxies… telling me to run entropic with moxies so no on use for incarn does this sound right ?

And do you think me having to collect the orbs from entropic is a huge problem

[golden belfry]

They move towards you after a little while now

[lavish token]

Nice does that make and since tho trading the on use during incarn for that random proc

[fallen plover]

Just starting to push 15s. I currently got a hero jastors and cyrce. Im thinking about swapping for a maxed myth track footbomb championship ring, but not sure if it's an overall increase. Mainly for the stam, but not sure if its even worth it in 15s, 😛

[chrome sandal]

some do that in 17-18 cuz of the stam but you loose damage overall

[digital berry]

SIM it

[digital berry]

Show sim

[lucid olive]

that ring on max myth probably better than circlet if you have hero jastor

[digital berry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/foFWvZoZacHyvfcx1Zx9fF

Not for me

[lucid olive]

nice sockets

[digital berry]

Im stupid

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2tkmV8NfUdcSqmSc52L3Tf

with just a default motherlode route

[digital berry]

Damn

[lavish token]

Emmithy ima link sim when I get home

I’ve ran it on dungeon slice single target boss and like 8 bosses just to get a idea of good aoe

[wet field]

Hey just a quick dumb question thinking about sth more than just a sim, but what should be picked up next from mythic raid loot chip - jastor or bis? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aw1Vt5ewCqUuSmquDcqL1H

[quasi dew]

its just that easy

[jolly delta]

[craggy sonnet]

not bad

idk if you need description to show per default

[jolly delta]

probably will be expandable at one point to show more details + affected spells

[craggy sonnet]

i think some folks would say its pretty small

[jolly delta]

yes but not showing it by default would mean having to make tooltips again

[craggy sonnet]

truuuuue

[craggy sonnet]

i thought you could easily embed like wowhead tooltips or something

dis wrong?

[jolly delta]

ehhhhhh

wowhead tooltips can be easily embedded if: you want to embed them on a default <a> link

but 1) that is not a link 2) wowhead tooltips kinda suck

[civic junco]

I don't care what they say, Stix parses give all star points in my heart

[rocky radish]

Guys I need help with what to pick with coins, I can choose hero house of cards, mug , jastor diamond , I tried to sim with patchwerk 5 min also for the myth plus but idk what tto pick casue all items obv are simmed togheter, I need to sim every single item? or there is a way to config the sim to do a combination for different items ? TY

[limber quiver]

the sim shows combinations

scroll down

[civic junco]

Im in a good mood, link me your SIMC and I will run the sim for you

[vital hound]

yea brilliant

[civic junco]

But also, Gamz has a pinned message about our priority for chips it's pretty straight forward

[rocky radish]

oh ty kinda new here 🙂 I will check pin and if you want to do a sim I can pass simc ty

[jolly delta]

ironic???

[civic junco]

If you are a heroic-oriented raider, you very likely want : 1. Mug Jug, 2. House of Cards, 3. Jastor's. The SIM would be more definitive though.

[rocky radish]

I mainly do myth plus content

[vital hound]

no

its good

[jolly delta]

[vital hound]

you need to make the header fonts heavier though

[jolly delta]

yee

[vital hound]

are they regular? make em medium

[jolly delta]

i think all fonts need like an overhaul

[vital hound]

is it thiccboi stil

still*

[jolly delta]

i have no clue

[vital hound]

im really into montserrat atm

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Montserrat

[jolly delta]

we should probably do a fount overhaul on the whole website tbh

but

[jolly delta]

each time i try to get into fonts I get overwhelmed

(forgot to send message)

[vital hound]

just tell me what you want to achieve with the font

and i'll sort it out

[jolly delta]

idk you honestly can just do a pass of the whole website and tell me what to use where and i'll set it up

[vital hound]

kk

body text is too thick righ

right*

[jolly delta]

i have no idea

probably

[rocky radish]

guys an info this week is only one coin? is one per week now ????

[lofty depot]

yes

[vital hound]

im gonna nerd out here, but at a glance we're lacking a subheading/itacilize weighting

the regular/book weight of thiccboi is pre strong

i just sent you one thats a bit more dynamic

[meager storm]

It has always been 1 coin per week, they just felt generous and gave u 3 at the start for an item

[maiden pasture]

This helm enchant looks so great

Insane uptime variance

[cursive ridge]

Howdy! How do I cancel Frenzied Regeneration? For example, I want to die in TOP combat

Is there a macro I can make?

[lofty depot]

form swap

[cursive ridge]

Switch does that? Never knew. Thanks!

[craggy sonnet]

im guessing this is for well honed instinct

you can prolly cancelaura it

[lofty depot]

well if its for that, uhhhh maybe

but it only ticks for 4 seconds, swap to human form ull die quicker

[cursive ridge]

Oh thank you! I forgot about that

Would macroo possibly be something like:

#showtooltip
/cancelaura Frenzied Regeneration

[exotic perch]

You could do that

Or just kill them

[lofty depot]

something like that

[exotic perch]

Thats the big brain strat just be a better pvper

[cursive ridge]

LOL yeah that works right after I blow all my CDs on the banner and boss xD

[lofty depot]

maybe dont wipe type shit

[cursive ridge]

"Just be better"

[exotic perch]

That statement always applies to wow

Just get good

[true viper]

Great news

[left granite]

Lesser void is the play? I simmed and it said gushing. Guessing sims aren't working properly?

[lofty depot]

change ur raw number to % and then look at margin of error

then go ahead and sim aoe

[left granite]

ahhh okay

[lofty depot]

then take all that information in and realize someone simmed it for u and said to pick void

thanks for coming to my ted talk

[vital hound]

gm arctic

[lofty depot]

hi

[lucid olive]

yes except for swapping into bear form

swapping into any other form cancels it

[trail anvil]

what flask should i run chaos or swiftness?

[lucid olive]

chaos

[noble spindle]

now why would u suggest swiftness and not the mastery flask

haste is not even our best stat

[real trail]

hey guys what flask do you run for m+ 18-19 chaos too?

[manic monolith]

im tired of switching between classes yall

should i just main boomy forever

its either boomy or lock

[meager storm]

Maybe

[manic monolith]

that doesnt help me lol

@lofty depot can you tell me to main boomy forever please

[plush prairie]

Can anyone explain this? Maybe i'm missing something.

On my profile shows as 3.7m, on the warcraft logs for 13 Cinder it also shows as that, but when I directly click into the log it's showing as 4.1m?

[manic monolith]

probably because you got externals

[plush prairie]

I had 1 pi?

[lofty depot]

im currently not maining boomie

[plush prairie]

The only external I had was 1 pi

[manic monolith]

really?!

what are you maining

[lofty depot]

whats the problem

[manic monolith]

nothing, i just miss you

[plush prairie]

4.5m to 3.7m in wcl

Lost nearly 1million dps, surely that isn't right?

but also showing 2 different numbers

[lofty depot]

ur worried about those numbers when ur details name is pdiddy

i cant

[plush prairie]

I was hacked ignore that

[manic monolith]

lul

[plush prairie]

but

Any idea on why it's way different?

[lofty depot]

i will not be ignoring it

[plush prairie]

Surely 1 power infusion is not enough to cause that much of a decrease?

[lofty depot]

well logs are correct and details is fake

[plush prairie]

But

Inside the log i'm at 4.1m

[lofty depot]

buhu buhuthuthbuthb get fucked

[plush prairie]

on my profile it's 3.7m?

[meager storm]

Idk maybe some mobs arent showed on logs

Or like a dmg amp

Idk

[manic monolith]

lmao

[lofty depot]

why are we worried about parses on m+ logs

[plush prairie]

I'm not

I'm asking a genuine question

[manic monolith]

you logged the run...lol

[plush prairie]

I did not log the run

Someone else logged the run

Also you cannot make fun of me (if I logged it) considering millions of people upload their logs, clown them

[manic monolith]

i wouldnt worry about it too much

[plush prairie]

I just want to know why it's done that, is there something i'm missing

[manic monolith]

no clue, i would ask the details discord

[plush prairie]

It's warcraft logs

not details

[meager storm]

Idk maybe as a m+ parser himself @carmine vigil knows the reason

[lofty depot]

well details generally always has some problem or bug

[plush prairie]

It is not details

It is warcraft logs

[eager raft]

Holy fuck it has nothing to do with details

Are you obtuse or dumb

[plush prairie]

Thank you

[manic monolith]

so whats the issue

are you upset details is wrong or something

[plush prairie]

Warcraft logs on my profile shows 3.7m, when I click into the log it shows 4.1m?

[manic monolith]

okay

[plush prairie]

I have said this

4x now

[manic monolith]

no one has an answer for you

[plush prairie]

Thank you have a nice day

[manic monolith]

other than details is wrong

[plush prairie]

ITS NOT DETAILS

[eager raft]

tbh calum no idea why it’s doing that. Can check on the wcl discord they’re typically pretty responsive

[plush prairie]

HOLY MOLY

How many times do you need to be told

It

Is

Not

Details

[manic monolith]

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

well ur talking about the details within warcraftlogs

[plush prairie]

I'm talking about the statistics in warcraft logs

[manic monolith]

this is why we dont look at M+ parses

[eager raft]

I got auto modded for what I just tried saying to Arctic

[lofty depot]

send picture

[lucid olive]

Details only shows damage done in combat and wclogs shows all damage done in the key so log number will always be less

[manic monolith]

lul

[eager raft]

Still nothing to do with details

[lucid olive]

[plush prairie]

IM not talking about my details

[eager raft]

do not engage

[manic monolith]

Hi Gamz

[plush prairie]

I'm talking about warcraft logs showing 2 different values

[eager raft]

These people are not here to help you

[plush prairie]

I know

[lofty depot]

rekt

[plush prairie]

They are always the same

[eager raft]

hey wait a minute

The usual suspects

[lofty depot]

u have fallen into my trap

[eager raft]

You set me up

[lucid olive]

This btw

Joke aside nobody here has a good answer for that cause it's not something anybody really cares about

[carmine vigil]

what the hbeck is the question

[lucid olive]

But wclogs discord usually has answers for this

[carmine vigil]

if ur asking why ur personal log shows different number than the leaderboards does i dont know either

[eager raft]

On profile wcl shows different dmg number than when he clicks into log

[lofty depot]

useless smh

[lucid olive]

Lwilkz

[lucid olive]

Hey do you say dee wilkz or dwilkz in one word

[lofty depot]

btw none of these numbers match the log inside

[lucid olive]

I've always called you dee wilkz but unsure..

[plush prairie]

Tbf I've never checked inside, just this one

[lofty depot]

well his last name is wilkz

so d is druid

d wilkz

[eager raft]

DRUID

[lofty depot]

im sure

[eager raft]

lmao

[lofty depot]

so the point was to notify

[manic monolith]

probably before it gets locked in

does the number usually change

[lucid olive]

I thought D was Duncan..

[lofty depot]

but then is mage is milkz

which is odd

so make is last name is ilkz

and DW stands for dont worry

[mighty mica]

surely

[lofty depot]

[eager raft]

don’t worry, ilkz

[lofty depot]

thyme did u see respectable automod evade

he should be banned

[eager raft]

Thyme do NOT scroll up

[carmine vigil]

"DEE WILKZ"

[mighty mica]

maybe you should scroll up

[carmine vigil]

and the d is for duncan yeah....

[lucid olive]

Thanks

[manic monolith]

tellem thyme

[hollow mist]

scrolling up..

[lofty depot]

that makes no sense

[eager raft]

U can lake it’s ok

[lucid olive]

Yeah idk if that was hidden info, I heard it on Cory stream

[eager raft]

Just don’t let thyme see

[lofty depot]

gamz thoughts, worse first name Duncan or Gary

gotta be duncan

[eager raft]

Think it’s in his twitch bio

[lofty depot]

thats on jah

[hollow mist]

ok I'll cover his eyes np I got u res

[lucid olive]

Gary for sure

[lofty depot]

thats crazy

[eager raft]

oh it’s gone he’s covering my tracks

mod helps user get away with auto mod evasion

[mighty mica]

now who is it i "dislike"?

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/wee-woo-patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-panicking-freaking-out-gif-17867167

[lofty depot]

respectable

[eager raft]

I knew it couldn’t be true

[lofty depot]

that one dude u thymeout all the time

hytes

[lucid olive]

Flubbablubba

Not gonna ping him this time

[manic monolith]

do you really not main boomy rn arctic?

[lofty depot]

correct

[eager raft]

he ran from the grind

[lucid olive]

Yeah he got shit on by me and respectable in heroic raid so he deleted the character

[lofty depot]

well at the time we needed a mage

[manic monolith]

thats fair

[lofty depot]

thats just not true

[manic monolith]

true, i was trying not to be pessimistic

[craggy sonnet]

i have a theory

[lucid olive]

If you think he's annoying here you should see him in mage discord..

[craggy sonnet]

it might be the number inside the log is dps on real time duration of the key

[lofty depot]

i havent talked there in weeks

[manic monolith]

everyones annoying in the mage discord

[craggy sonnet]

and the number outside the log is considering the key completion time (aka including death penalty)

[lofty depot]

degen already talks like me

[lucid olive]

0.05% better uptime btw

Pissed on

[lofty depot]

dont need more of them like that

[hollow mist]

will he ping me 20 times in a row there too

[manic monolith]

degens better than wordup from the shaman discord tbh

[lofty depot]

2% less dam

rekt

[lofty depot]

well also their whole discord is like 20 people doing research and slamming sims for weeks

[lucid olive]

You're pressing Starfall in Lunar when boss is casting during the shield..

[plush prairie]

For some reason it's only in cinderbrew, I checked my other logs and I only lose around 50k mostly

[lofty depot]

what about it

[plush prairie]

Idk if it's like a certain mob that doesn't count

[craggy sonnet]

have you seen the amount of deaths you had in that run?

[lofty depot]

still bodied on boss dam

[manic monolith]

i thought porom was always cool

manather too

[lofty depot]

also, like every mage weakaura pack is fucking ass

[manic monolith]

but he works now

[lucid olive]

You're higher ilvl and I have 150ms

[lofty depot]

have bigger peen too

[lucid olive]

Cap

Show hog

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/yawn-boar-pig-hog-summer-gif-10546652396781305870

[plush prairie]

I had 0

I think

or 1

[lofty depot]

bro this evoker is padding

[lucid olive]

Where did you get this picture of @eager raft

[plush prairie]

unless you mean total for everyone

[craggy sonnet]

the entire squad

[lofty depot]

thats crazy

[craggy sonnet]

it affects the timer

[plush prairie]

Ah okay I got it

Makes sense I suppose

[lofty depot]

u @'d him then edited

so he doesnt get the ping

pretty toxic

[craggy sonnet]

so like if you look i think the key in real time took 30:03 or something

and it shows as 32:29 after deaths

[lucid olive]

No I'm on phone and it lagged

[craggy sonnet]

(closed it so not accurate numbers)

[lucid olive]

@eager raft

[lofty depot]

what the

[plush prairie]

Ah okay I see, thanks for the clarity

[craggy sonnet]

but im not 100

you can do a sanity check and calc if its in the ballpark

[eager raft]

[manic monolith]

Do you guys think warlock or Druid is an easier class to play

[mighty mica]

no

[craggy sonnet]

if you ever wanna play one caster ever again

then surely it'd be mage

[lofty depot]

yea but sometimes mage is cringe and play arcane

[lucid olive]

Arcane is fun

[craggy sonnet]

but at least you always play

[lofty depot]

if ur good u always play

[lucid olive]

Arcane is the most fun mage spec

[lofty depot]

fake

[drifting nova]

fire exists?

[lofty depot]

frost mage nighthold

most fun >

[lucid olive]

Fire is such a snoozefest

[lofty depot]

fire high apm

no snooze

[manic monolith]

Fire and arcane is ass

Only mage spec is frost

[lucid olive]

Now that's the biggest cap I ever heard

That spec sucks ass to play this expansion

Too many dogshit interactions

[manic monolith]

yeah, manather cooked too much

[topaz pewter]

can anyone point me to the crazy wrath pvp one shot build? lol

[jolly delta]

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

#pvp prob

[marble kiln]

void ritual or infinite stars? pog

[lofty depot]

read pins, pog

[formal crest]

I got the mount

we can look cute together next time

[eager raft]

congrats goat

[dense steeple]

cyon

[weary berry]

will the Durable Information Securing Container be bis for us

[dense steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wut-huh-confused-confusion-gif-17787926

[weary berry]

is that a yes or a no

xd

[dense steeple]

idk what that item even is

[weary berry]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/testing-the-durable-information-securing-container-disc-belt-coming-in-patch-11-376796

[dense steeple]

ive literally never heard of it

oh the belt

who knows!

[weary berry]

z_z

deciding whether to craft a belt

i got lowk shafted

by my vault thsi week

[viscid scarab]

do we buy infinite stars?

[barren tartan]

Yup’s 6/8M Weekday Team 2/8M is recruiting a balance druid. dm me to apply, raid is thursday at 5pm pst

[dense steeple]

we read pins

[ember quartz]

just joined a motherlode group where they were talking about a roots tech on the dogs before first boss, but language barrier and i couldn't understand. does anyone know what they might have been talking about?

[dense steeple]

no clue

no dogs in motherlode

[cloud lion]

That is workshop before 2nd boss

[ember quartz]

Workshop sorry*

something about rooting something made them not cast the aoe, trying to find a vod of some high key streamer to figure it out but coming up short

[cloud lion]

U root patroling dog

So he wont jump at all

Than rest of doggos will stop jumping cuz they are waiting for rooted dog to jump

[ember quartz]

oh I see

huge, thank you

[cloud lion]

Something like that

But u have to be in combat with rooted dog

[ember quartz]

Yeah now just need to figure out where to actually root him since he goes from one pack to another in his pat

[cloud lion]

It doesnt matter as long as u dont break root

[ember quartz]

gotcha, thanks homie

[cloud lion]

There is vod on yt by resto deuid

[ember quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-dance-wow-character-dancing-warcraft-druid-moonkin-form-loverboy-working-for-the-weekend-gif-27495491

[dense steeple]

guys we did it

we made it to gally

[ember quartz]

all downhill from there if you got mug down, yeah?

[cloud lion]

Type workshop root dog strat or something

[digital berry]

and gally is dead

[dense steeple]

show us the goods

[digital berry]

it's looking like a top 15

[dense steeple]

GIVE THE GOODS

LETS SEE IT

[weary berry]

how many sparks are we up to now

[digital berry]

6 ? probably?

smth like that

[dense steeple]

[ebon parcel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fuWoqUeUJu1ur9giakWKgT

hi should i buy the jastor in heroic since it is 0.7% damage increase from my normal version since i play feral as well?

[delicate perch]

hectic add cleave

[ebon parcel]

i play balance for stix and m+ only

which is hective add cleave right?

[delicate perch]

does that sound like either of those

[ebon parcel]

for mythic stix probably somewhere there?

[normal pilot]

you shouldn't ignore warnings

they are there for a reason

[delicate perch]

unless you know for sure you aren't killing oab/gally sending on a hero track item sounds pretty rough

[ebon parcel]

not sure will raid actively AFTER mythic gally though and it will take a few months from now too

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mTzrDqf2cbo9vW5ZecZVwg

this is for ST

[delicate perch]

how far off one armed are you

cause myth track bis/hoc are both pretty good

[ebon parcel]

the heroic jastor, mythic best in slots and mythic house of cards is what i am thinking of.
currently at mythic sprocket

[delicate perch]

ya I mean if there's nothing else you could get it's not terrible, but if you don't have the floodgate melee trinket you could buy that for feral

[ebon parcel]

but i try not to buy items that only benefit 1 spec like the melee trinket

[silent hinge]

Hello, I am a returning player, new to season 2, I am unsure if I will even finish all 12s, I only have several 10+s (or 10 equivalent) across all seasons under my belt (much less mythic raid), but I am just trying to push as far as I can this season, is it a bad idea for my longevity to just buy a hero track weapon to get off the ground?

[ionic oak]

craft

[silent hinge]

Thank you ❤️

[livid jay]

Yea craft with whatever crests you have and once you have enough gilded craft a max craft ilvl weapon

[high vapor]

I find myself delay the use of incarnation too much on big pulls.. casting 2 wrath for eclipse then dot all mobs then use fury of elune.. in the meantime i use starfall to prevent capping astral... when i set all up and about to use incarnation usually mobs are already half health.. sometimes they die before i make full use of incarnation, especially when we make big pull with bloodlust.. does it happen for you too? Is there any other approach for this?

[maiden pasture]

Do higher keys is the answer

[livid jay]

ye do higher keys or play keeper of the grove hero tree so u dont have to moonfire yourself

or start dotting earlier maybe u are waiting too long, start right as the tank pulls the first mobs

[high vapor]

I do start doting as soon as first mob us pulled.. i run +10s and still has the issue

[round field]

10s are not high keys

[vague crescent]

Is there a difference if I dot before going into lunar or after?

[vital monolith]

Hey guys , out of curiosity , what build was played last season on M+ ? Keeper or elune ?

[round field]

Elune

[livid jay]

yea elune in higher keys but i think more people were fucking around with keeper in medium level keys than they are now

[native pecan]

Hi. I cant find out what is happening on my dungs. Sometimes i do like 6/7 mil dps on 5 mobs pack, and then tank pulls another pack with like 12-14 mobs and i do same dps. Sometimes on large packs i can achieve 14-16mil without lust but its not constant. Both pulls with incarn. Both i start same shit: 2wraths, moonfires, sunfire foe and incarn and starting normal rotation. Is there any rng shit which makes me much more dps? It is not happening on single target situations. I do 15/16s now so mobs are alive.

[livid jay]

log your dungeons and record your gameplay

[native pecan]

I do log

But ye ill start recording and watching it to see mistakes

[livid jay]

if you are trying to be in lunar while dotting you are probably failing to have two dreamstate stacks when u pop incarn sometimes which could lead to quite some dps difference but yes recording yourself and checking for such things can help you a lot

check out warcraftrecorder for a easy way to do it

[native pecan]

I’ve checked my uptime of eclipse and in my best floodgate run it is 76%

In second best run its 60%

Can it make the difference when i dot in eclipse or not?

[livid jay]

its not a big difference its more important to get two dreamstate stacks for your incarn

if u cant get the two wraths off before you get in combat you should probably just not do it

saying "probably" cause im not sure on the exact math for when its worth regardless

[royal zenith]

I dunno there's so many more other factors to look for, other than dreamstate or being in eclipse while dotting

pull size, CA usage, did you dot all the mobs, did mushroom proc

etc. etc.

[livid jay]

ye ofc

but mushroom always procs when u have incarn

[royal zenith]

you need to log and look for differences/specifics

don't speculate too much

use facts

and yes only around key lvl 15/16 the mobs actually start living enough to properly do your rotation

'rotation'

[vale pebble]

source?

[round field]

should ban

the word dreamstate in this channel

🙏

[vital hound]

should ban you iqni

[royal zenith]

real

I can make it happen

[vital hound]

actually nvm

ban deux

[royal zenith]

oh

[vital hound]

i fucking hate that guy

[royal zenith]

I can also make that happen

[livid jay]

source was a feelycraft by some green name

[round field]

ofc

gamz pig

probably wanks to dreamstate icon

with how obssesed he is over it

[royal zenith]

love dreamstate

[livid jay]

nah he says he doesnt press meld for dreamstate

hes fine

[jade flume]

I dont either(im troll)

[elder remnant]

How do you meld for dreamstate (asking for a friend)

[maiden pasture]

So you press meld

And you get dreamstate

Crazy right?

[elder remnant]

Oh it’s m+ tech

Disregard who cares

[maiden pasture]

Yeah doesn't work in raid

Meld useless in raid

[elder remnant]

I’m absolutely saving meld for targeted spells in keys

[jade flume]

I dont

Heal my character

[elder remnant]

One shots are unhealable supposedly

[jade flume]

Aint no way random ass spells are a 1 shot in a 12

[brisk tangle]

askng tips for a 15 is wild behaviour

[round field]

m+ players

are so mentally ill

its hilarious

[livid jay]

a friend of mine recently declined a 3500 warrior from a +10 cause he thought it would be funny

it honestly kind of was

[brisk tangle]

wait

was that

2 days ago/

[hidden plaza]

Tips are degen for every keylevel. i know what i provide for the key. take it or leave it. if i want a boost i buy a boost

[livid jay]

i think it was a bit longer ago

[brisk tangle]

because i got declined on my 3530 warrior

for a +10 top

LMFAO

[livid jay]

hmmmm are u sure that was two days ago?

[brisk tangle]

ngl i got heated

yh

it was the day before reset

[livid jay]

was at some point last reset but im not sure which day but it wasnt on tuesday

[brisk tangle]

i needed one more m+

[livid jay]

ye no then not 😄

i think

yea no i checked my rio and it wasnt even a top 😄

[vague crescent]

What’s the best plater profile that you guys recommend for balance Druid

[pallid bay]

based

i only take 8/8 raid to my keys

[plush prairie]

I see tons of those, "15k per run or 50k an hour"

[warm gulch]

asking for tips when they themselves are 3300

they should be one the ones paying for people to be there

[plush prairie]

For real

It's funny when it's only 1 guy too

If it was like a 4man group I can understand it, still scummy but 1 guy

[scarlet tapir]

imagine on 18s then

people who got resilient

just farming money

and im pretty sure they deleting resilient after this

[obsidian jetty]

we just had a 3k io 8/8m rpala doing 700k on bosses and 1.5m overall iirc. We saw he had Best-in-slots but a 640 signet on. It's silly how little the rating or raid numbers mean

you always have to deep dive into applicants or just get the most monstrous pugs...

[pallid bay]

i just dont pug

if i have to pug someone i invite first applicant and enjoy the ride

[scarlet tapir]

god tier vibes

[vital hound]

m+ dinar gear should require 8/8M and 3200

[round field]

[jade flume]

On god

As long as u have 3-4 guildies it doesnt matter who u invite

Just gotta have a tank premade or it can be interesting

[stoic grotto]

anyone messed around with talents for horrific visions?

[obsidian jetty]

[delicate perch]

surely boomkin is faster

[obsidian jetty]

prly in 0-2mask

the mobs start hurting, spend more time casting regrowth than dpsing 💀

[delicate perch]

I've seen 5 mask boomkin but 0 5 mask bears

[obsidian jetty]

I tried abit to 5mask as boomy and it was just not worth

I did it as bear

[delicate perch]

[maiden pasture]

How easy was 5mask as bear

[obsidian jetty]

It's not easy as bear or boomy

gotta play well and get alil lucky with 100 sanity potion(s)

bear was easier to live on, I only did 1 attempt with taunt treants and just said fuck it I'm forcing bear

[tawdry oak]

Whats the benefit in doing 5 mask

[obsidian jetty]

achievement, challenge

gave hero track loot at the end too, but kinda irrelevant

I'm curious if 8mask will give myth track, that would be interesting

[tawdry oak]

Would probably cause mass hysteria from the people who can't complete it

[obsidian jetty]

should be alot easier once the timegate is up

you get another 90% sanity loss reduction and a cheatdeath and like 16% dmg or something

from the talents

[lucid olive]

Ping me the next time idiot

[round field]

@lucid olive

[lucid olive]

[high vapor]

so as Elune Choses in Aoe the opener is DoTs --> Fury of Elune --> Incarnation --> 2x Starfire (Dreamstate) --> Warrior of Elune --> 3x Instant Starfire ?? That means in order to save your Dreamstate for Starfire that you apply dots and use fury of Elune out of eclipse (the damage will be upgraded though once you enter eclipse)

[vital hound]

what is the icon

[high vapor]

Dreamstate

[vital hound]

no like

what is it

[lucid olive]

Yeah but also Starfall in there after incarn

Think of your dots and FoE as damage activators instead of spells that actually do damage, cause the damage they do is kinda piss

FoE makes the mobs take 6% increased damage and your mastery makes you do more damage on dotted targets, you should layer these effects and then enter cooldowns

[high vapor]

I see

yea sometimes I do Starfall before incarnation cause I am about to cap before dot all mobs on aoe

[lucid olive]

Idk if that's better or not

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/fxndierratas21-pyramid-head-silent-hill-silent-hill-revelation-gif-17303081909863141055

[lucid olive]

It's azir

[full gazelle]

My emperor

[high vapor]

btw if the mob you cast fury of elune dies before FoE ends, does it goes to nearby enemies?

[round field]

Yes

[vital hound]

not a well thought out helmet

[craggy sonnet]

Is that an oversized cheese grater, or??

[frank dock]

hey everyone, may someone is able to sim my char for a m+ run? i really dont know what to choose....and what do u would need from me to do this. Thanks a lot ❤️

[high vapor]

omg now I noticed... treants cast a moonfire each.. with twin moons that means 6 targets

never played keepers build, was only played Elune so far

[pallid bay]

jealous? you prob on a bicycle

[high vapor]

that means I do not have to wait so long to cast incarnation... use treants, sunfire and I am done with dots

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/luAIsaGowfz.gif

[pallid bay]

uncultured..

[vale pebble]

fckin mamas boy lol

[scarlet tapir]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1241400602811044062.webp?size=96&animated=true

[vital hound]

[round field]

@vital hound wnkr

[vital hound]

xx

ly2 iqni

[high vapor]

last question 😛 if Incarnation is up and dont have dreamstate buff up or warrior of elune, should I use Wrath to generate astral power even in AoE?