✍🏻｜creator-only

[keen quail]

I am not doing any promotion for the new system now.
I don’t know what the exchange ratio is, so I can’t attract smart investors or influencers to enter.

[hardy stump]

Coins can also be used for extra energy.

[alpine flower]

Do the share holders buy and sell for real money ?

[hardy stump]

There's a survey where you can get BnB to post your Bot's AIapp which acts kinda like an NFT I think that can be traded or bought by other people.

Each purchase circulates one copy

[tender hinge]

I bought the first five shares of my meme generator lol

btw, thanks for supporting me

[ornate wedge]

It will take some time for creators to thoroughly understand how the new system works and catch up as crypto is now involved.. But yes, the update has at least solved the cheating prob in bot usage and it is subject to continual optimizations.

[hardy stump]

The current way AIpp works is more just crypto investor sided, buying tokens majorly only to profit on them by selling for a higher price, while patron badge was more for creators and basic users.

Even if the Patron Badge was removed and won't come back, as well as won't have any changes in the way sponsorship points are earned, at least give people an option to have a separate network type thing where you can use shell coins to buy shares.

[ornate wedge]

I do believe the change made is intended to benefit the creators in a creative way of web3

[keen quail]

Anothr AIpp store only for $SHELL? Not good for creators. They should create bot & share instead.

[ornate wedge]

Yes I am as well disappointed in seeing coins' losing investment features and gives our previous work a negative impact. On the other hand, in web3 the investors (sponsors or even speculators) are very important for creators, creators could get their works listed with nearly 0 cost and get even getting the initial 5 shares at very low cost and continually benefit from all trades on your bots

Good nite

[alpine flower]

How much real dollars does the 1st 5 shares cost?

[tender hinge]

I totally forgot lol. But I remember it was pretty cheap.
Is there anywhere I can check the transaction history?

[alpine flower]

like $5 USD or $50 USD or...
I don't have a funded wallet, so I was wondering if I was something i would do

[glass imp]

The first 5 shares are 1$ in total, but they're quite difficult to buy. Lots of authors failed to buy the cheapest ones of their own AIpps. The price goes up quickly.

[alpine flower]

You mean if you try to buy right away you dont get them?
and how it go up? same way badges did?

[glass imp]

Yes, there's always someone faster than the author. ¯(ツ)/¯
The badges follow an arithmetic progression of +10 each time, while this AIpps share price increases much faster. You can see on the website.

[alpine flower]

these super fast buyers, couldn't they be bots like stock bots or concert ticket buying bots? (I really don't know BTW, I'm out of the Web3 loop)

[tiny wing]

I sort of hope Shell Coins have utlity soon lewl, it's sort of funny just seeing them just idle.

The pledging thing was sort of fun before, even as like a game-like thing.

[daring vapor]

Possibly tbh

[formal mauve]

I haven't checked back in a while, and after scrolling through tons of messages, I'm still pretty lost with all the new updates.

If holding shares of an AIPP doesn't give you profits based on its performance, what's the incentive for people to buy into a specific AIPP?
I'm thinking about picking up a few from creators I really like since I know they're gonna get a lot of use. But if owning the shares doesn't give me a cut of its earn, why should I bother? Am I just hoping others will buy in too, so I can cash in on some trading volume points? But then, why would others buy it in the first place?

You nailed it, bro.
Same page here, but you said it way better than I could.

[radiant basalt]

+1

[whole crown]

That, plus 0.2 bnb trading volume before you even get any sponsorship points is quite a lot in the first place, especially now since the trading badically stopped because users realised you don't really get anything from it.

[whole crown]

(Meant to reply to this lol)

[hardy stump]

Bingo

It would be great if me making an AIApp Tradeable actually gives me money for each share purchased.

[whole crown]

It does but like 30% of a 5% fee or smth like that

[hardy stump]

Yeah, but it says my app is worth 0.03 BnB, how do I actually deposit my earnings into my particle wallet so I can transfer it to Binance.

[whole crown]

Send button

You have to click the wallet icon on the top right of the screen and it will show

[hardy stump]

So each cut immediately goes there?

[whole crown]

Yep

[ornate wedge]

Now you guys start to realize the fun part of the game

You could get creator points from user engagement with your bot, sponsor points from tx and at the same time real time real money from tx fee allocation

[alpine flower]

Ot would be great as creators if we could invest shell coins we earned to buy at least the 1st one or 2 shares at the time we publish.

the coin will be worth something someday right?

[hardy stump]

Yeah

[alpine flower]

Will that give you real money back if you sell/send

And if you sell will the share price go down?

[ornate wedge]

Do you know this, the app store lets the creators to get their bots listed on the bonding curve for real crypto transactions, almost free listing. And you get the initial 5 shares also almost free (around 0.1$).

Shell coin can't not be used at this stage as it is not a crypto yet

Coins are to be converted to tokens after tge and then you could use it on myshell mainnet, in future

[ornate wedge]

Buying and selling are conducted in bnb, real time, through your own wallet

[open vault]

Do we get the initial share?

I don't think so... I did not get mine for free. I bought way later than others.

Even if the creator is fast enough, they need 'mysoul' themselves

[alpine flower]

we have to buy mysoul to buy a share? and how much is that?

I may be out.

[open vault]

currently 1317$...

[alpine flower]

I'm out

[open vault]

me too

[alpine flower]

so we are just the bait for the share holders....
Oh well

It was fun, learned a lot and met lots of cool people 🙂
but this turn has been very disappointing for me.
It's too bad.
(And There is way too much stuff that I don't know about web 3. Feels like the wizard of OZ with a man behind the curtains making everything happen unseen)

I'm not going to ever put money in myself. for many reasons - main one (but the the only one) is I don't have it.
From the beginning The creator pass was promoted as a wy to monitize a botin the future, that seems less likely now.

** I thank MyShell for the creator pass! its great & I will continue to use it, but I'm going try not to worry about monetizing anything as I feel if I invest real money I will lose it for sure having no web3 knowledge **

[ornate wedge]

Creators don't need to own a mysoul in order to get the initial shares of their own bots. And true, currently the initial shares are not guaranteed for the owner of the bot.. I didn't get them either. But the team woudl very much likely amend the rules in favour of creators

[open vault]

I... doubt it.

I never saw any creator getting the initial share, at all.

[glass imp]

you can still launch your AIpp without buying them. If you don't have BNB, there was a form to fill. Publish AIpp is very cheap, like less than 1$.

[open vault]

I think they will give the creators initial share one day... but not now

[open vault]

You don't have to put your money nor invest it. Creating bot still gives enough merit

[glass imp]

Coins for creators is now 25%.

[open vault]

sponsor 40%, lol

let's do a little math...

[glass imp]

In the past it was at least 50%, and badges offer passive income.

[open vault]

no, I don't think so

[open vault]

You are miscalculating the ''General" points

[ornate wedge]

This is a rare example where creator got his initial 5 shares

[open vault]

the creator had MySoul

I am talking about the case where creator does not have MySoul...

[ornate wedge]

As I mentioned earlier creator doesn't need a mysoul to own his presale shares

[whole crown]

lmao, creators are the backbone of myshell though

[open vault]

There is no explanation at all about this... is it official?

[glass imp]

The points earned by each bot are also hidden now, so if there's a cheater got 200,000 points a day, we won't even be able to know.

[open vault]

well, the team would know

Previously, as far as I know, most of the points were from "General" where anyone could just dive in and check in for the points

so... I think creator's portion will increase anyways

[ornate wedge]

It is official and it has been discussed a lot of times in dc i think

It is written somewhere🤣

[open vault]

okay... so they were just not quick enough and it is not written in the guide

[ornate wedge]

Agreed rules are not that crystal clear

[whole crown]

i didn't even know you could buy your own shares, at least without a cooldown like in patron badge, so I didn't even bother to check

[open vault]

Anyways...

[ornate wedge]

I didn't know either

[open vault]

There are... like tons to say

[ornate wedge]

No hurry

[open vault]

1. I understand the goal of this system... but this is not quite successful. Yes, team wanted to reward creators by giving out the transaction fee.
   However, If this whole system does not make people to trade "Nice bots", just make all the bots like 'memecoins', I have nothing to say Creators are not at all motivated by this system. Most creator's badge are around 0.01BNB.

2. The fee is given under "Volume"... but current system is more like an NFT rather than token. They trade one by one and price is not linear. It can't make out big volume...

3. Since the price is not anchored to any of the real value, (the utility of the token is the point-share from volume- which is quite irrelevant from the value itself) the token's price is... backed by nothing

[radiant basalt]

how this bot with even no prompt get 4th place

[ornate wedge]

It's just a starting of a real web3 system, the team needs time to optimize and users need time too to adapt

Understanding the rules takes time

[radiant basalt]

Yeah

[ornate wedge]

Especially for web2 users

[radiant basalt]

Coreteam member is listening to our suggestion and change

[ornate wedge]

Let's just sit tight and let the bullet fly a bit

[open vault]

4. The biggest problem... Expected volume is way too much overrated.

• Let's just assume 1.5M token per season is distributed. (50M distribution total, alpha + 20 beta seasons... Just an assume)
• 40% are for Sponsor = 0.6M assigned
• 40 points / 0.2BNB of trades...

if 3,000 BNB = 1.8M$ of trade : still 1 Sponsor point = 1 Shell coin
if 300 BNB = 180K$ of trade : 1 Sponsor point = 10 Shell coin

LOL

We even can't grind the fee for the Sponsor point... Since we need a "Volume". We can't just stake. If nobody trades, it's total meaningless.

[full token]

the distribution vary every month

my dear bro

IKAAAA

[glass imp]

Previously, there were no categories for points, and all points obtained through any means had the same exchange rate.
Now they are divided to 4 type. Creators earn most of their points from "reward for public bot", rather than login and other tasks like say hi in discord, which is now the general points.
For example, previously, if you earn 50,000 points from reward for public bot, and 20 points from talking to bots in the task list, at the end of season, with the same exchange rate, assume 50, you get 1000+0.4coins.
Now all points created from "reward for public bot" only covers 25%, the exchange rate will be different.

[full token]

hey everyone, just have fun

[open vault]

My calculation stays with 40% of 'Sponsor' points

[full token]

and lemme know if you have any feedback

we have updates every two days

[open vault]

these are feedbacks

[open vault]

This part. I don't think this system could serve enough transaction volume.

[full token]

this is the reason why i need to do growth

attract people from other projects to trade

and ika as the biggest creator and top2 aipp on our platform will be traded more

[open vault]

...

[full token]

aiko work 24/7 for yall

give us some more time

[whole crown]

The system does not make people to trade... Any bots at this point... Users understood that the only way you get value from your shares is if people just buy and sell the same bots. That's why normal users are barely even doing things on AIpp store, making the price stay the same for a long period of time. Of course no one would want to buy stuff that has stayed the same price for a long time, another person will just sell and you lose money

So there is no real incentive to even participate in AIpp store when the shares don't even hold any real value in the current market.

[open vault]

I always trust in Myshell, but this... 40% is totally ridiculous rate setting honestly.

At least, we need a cap or something to get used to the system.

[full token]

maybe will change next month

i said its for july

[radiant basalt]

What are you guys talking about? I seem to be late...

[open vault]

I am thinking of

• Make own bot
• Buy all the tokens with many accounts
• Grind for BNB fee

to make out $Shell...

[ornate wedge]

Upcoming

[glass imp]

Will the future change affect the already happened ones? like the AIpps already published but author did't get their shares, will there be some method to give them the chance?

[open vault]

If they get points for "Trading" the bot, it would have been totally different story

if 0.2BNB of "Trading" the bot would give 40 points, people would trade more aggressively.

However...0.2 BNB of "Volume" giving out point is... it just makes people to hodl and wait for 'others' to join the trade.

this is paradoxical.

[glass imp]

and for the bonding curve, it seems you will change it in the next update. What about people who already bought the shares? will there be any systematically adjustment or not?

[radiant basalt]

What hodl mean?

typo of hold?

[open vault]

it's like to hold even if the price drops or goes up, it's crypto word for holding

[full token]

you are right, trading valume is not trading frequence, we let trading makes sense instead of trade $0.000001 for 100 times

trading volume is a metric that contains value and frequency

[radiant basalt]

It's so lively here

[tiny wing]

Shell coins

[jolly dune]

I'm just having fun

[tiny wing]

lawl

[jolly dune]

I have no idea what's going on

[open vault]

Need a big change on 2 points.

• Good bots need to earn more : At least, the team should mention this point, or the fact that it will change in the direction. This is not a meme coin maker.
• It should not be "Bot's" trading volume deciding the sponsor point. This kills total volume paradoxically.

• it should not be delayed... After a season with "1 sponsor point = 5 $Shell" it's too late

[tiny wing]

I'm also just playing around again with AI. It's the only way to stay sane. lewl.

[whole crown]

as active as in the good 'ol days, brings tears of joy in my eyes

[open vault]

[tiny wing]

The issue is there isn't much to do with Shell Coins

[jolly dune]

I'm just happy seeing my coins got refunded lel

[radiant basalt]

same

[open vault]

🦈 SaMe

[tiny wing]

That's true our bots became some sort of mini stock market for people to pump and dump their initial share

[radiant basalt]

さめ?

[open vault]

[tiny wing]

This time bots earn actual money than coins

[radiant basalt]

I'm learning japanese too

a very little bit

[tiny wing]

Since they buy the moment a bot gets pushed out

Then sell when its X amount

[radiant basalt]

Yea

[open vault]

Our bot becoming stock would be great... but it is not the bot being stock, rather 'image and it's name' being a stock...

[radiant basalt]

The price will be very unstable

[whole crown]

i'm just waiting until i get more value from publishing my bot on AIpp so i can dump it all into zzz

[open vault]

I mean, at least I believe people here's bot deserves way more

[radiant basalt]

If bot is a stock, then what is a rise and what is a fall for now?

[tiny wing]

Yup. We get some fees. I guess my boba joke from months ago might become real

Still can't buy a starbucks though

[open vault]

it's a meme and hype...

[jolly dune]

I have the same plan

[radiant basalt]

I think that after Myshell is charged, the price and usage of the bot may be related, which could be beneficial

[radiant basalt]

same

[tiny wing]

This is a bit of a take but we should get some incentives too if one of our referrals buy a pass or soul since mine did.

[whole crown]

yeah since buying two "different" AIpp's is literally buying the same thing but with a different price tag rn, making it so the way AIpp's are priced is basically random

[tiny wing]

Oh welp, back to writing prompts for Silly

[radiant basalt]

Yeah,no one use,only pumpers

[tiny wing]

A bunch of bots just buy the initial first 5 spots then wait for others to buy in, then sell

It sort of hurts as the maker of the bot too since some users are getting pump and dumped for liking your bot

But it's usually how it is in the crypto space orz

[whole crown]

yep, especially since now after the new update it will release after a day or 100 shares, not 3 days or 30 shares, allowing mysoul holders to have even more advantage over regular people

[radiant basalt]

Myshell should add a anti bot system

[tiny wing]

I don't think its possible to add an anti-bot system but maybe only add systems that dissuade bots from coming in, or make it so their actions aren't so beneficial. They added captch already and I think it ruined the user experience instead.

Like the pledge thing was still full of bots too.

They finally turned the energy to coin cost though, I did mention it months ago that bots were using that to get unlimited usage.

Though now bots have no incentive to use the energy lewl.

Welp I guess we'll just find out soon.

[radiant basalt]

[fallow snow]

[zinc swan]

Good morning/evening fellas👋

[radiant basalt]

I want to let user input state and jump to the state name that user input. any ways to do that?

that's not working

[open vault]

@full token Can you check on these suggestions?

[full token]

lemme see ika

you're my fav bro

[open vault]

[hushed path]

https://x.com/myshell_ai/status/1815738052351754542

MyShell (@myshell_ai) on X

MyShell is honored to be the sponsor of the BNB Chain Q3 Hackathon!

Build & earn in AI apps, with massive profit potential.

Get ready for a new quarter of crazy rewards and big prizes!

#BNBChainHackathon2024

Twitter · Jul 23, 2024, 1:17 PM

LFG

[tender hinge]

What's going on here?

[open vault]

hello

[radiant basalt]

#🌎｜general

[alpine flower]

I still don't get it.
If someone could explain a few things simple and short.

1. If I have no mysoul and no real money in any wallet, what does minting the bot actually do for me.

2. Other than "pump & dump" using influence ect.. why would anyone buy one? (Is it just like stocks, but 100% speculation with no product value?)

3. Are people making real money buying and selling right now?

(I feel so dumb)

[whole crown]

1. you get percentage of a fee when someone buys a share of it
2. currently there is literally no reason to buy
3. some are, some aren't

[full token]

hi spider

long time no see

let's have a creator (who're interested in AIpp store) fireside chat

how about it

[alpine flower]

Ok, let me know when.

[full token]

i'll let kevin collect the time when everyone's convinient

[alpine flower]

I'm in toronto Canada. And work most days.
Best time for me is early morning my time. 4-6am EDT
(I believe that's 8-10am UTC)
.

Or really late just before bed
11pm EDT (3am UTC)

[radiant spire]

in such schemes, because there's zero "revenue" or "product value" as TheFriendlySpider said, every time someone makes money/wins, someone else loses

but overall it's a loss due to fees (everyone loses fees)

you just have to pray there's a next guy who'll spend even more on shares than you and you end up selling for more than you bought

pyramid scheme basically

[keen quail]

Creators should focus on earning red and yellow points

[open vault]

[radiant spire]

💀

[open vault]

Strike

[ornate wedge]

literally died laughing

[radiant basalt]

I can join at GMT+2 to GMT+14

[radiant basalt]

Change name to "MyGPT4o" is better

[open vault]

#🆘｜ask-the-team message

Can you put your thumbs up for the suggestion?

I really feel much to protect creators' rights, and make this community more productive.
I will not any more sit down and wait for the next patch. Each season will be critical for all of us.

---

Help me to create motivating environment for creators with our hands.

[whole crown]

We really need more creators to speak up about this so that the team knows and understands that this is a big problem for every single creator

[hard violet]

We're organizing a Fireside Chat and need to determine which day in the next three days will have the highest attendance.
The event will be scheduled for 2-3 PM UTC.

Please select the day you're available to participate and complete the following form:

https://forms.gle/jMVuu3rgVDQuD96VA

[hard violet]

We also encourage all creators to share their ideas in real-time, just like Ika has done.

[glass imp]

Wouldn’t it be better to have multi-selection for the vote?

[hard violet]

Thank u bro.

[formal mauve]

I've got a feeling that someone's already on it.
They just need a few mysoul NFT to corner the market on an AIPP.

[open vault]

and a fast hand.

[open vault]

Call to Arms again

[hollow coral]

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/URfEN3/1701853149 Who can help test and see if they can hack my bot, break through its prompts?

If successful in cracking it, please DM me.

[whole crown]

hack your bot..? What do you mean by that?

[radiant basalt]

Broke promot

[glass imp]

Like make it admit it is an AI

[spark grove]

Why can't I fill in

[hard violet]

Can you screenshot it, I find there are already some replys.

[hushed path]

It is possible to fill. Please try using a different browser or another account.

[hard violet]

Whoever wants to attend or not can submit the google form to directly send your questions or suggestion to MyShell team!

[spark grove]

I'll try again

[spark grove]

Fantastic, I can’t fill it out. I need to restart my computer.

[alpine flower]

Is this not already happening?

It only stands to logic that it would be.

[open vault]

I don't think so, I am not passionate enough to buy that much creator pass nor I have the code to buy the first keys fastest

[alpine flower]

Dont Stocks require a product or service or something?

I still don't see what people are buying.

If the creator gets the 1st however many shares then the creator would just dump his shares too once they have a significant return value.

This system seems very easy to manipulate if you have enough cash.

[open vault]

yes... It's the way crypto works, need to get used to it.

[alpine flower]

Ok

[hard violet]

<@&1129106307446755389>
We're organizing a Fireside Chat and need to determine which day in the next three days will have the highest attendance.
The event will be scheduled for 2-3 PM UTC.

Please select the day you're available to participate and complete the following form:

https://forms.gle/jMVuu3rgVDQuD96VA

[open vault]

Faster the better tictoc

[crimson solstice]

👍

[alpine flower]

** different topic **
How come the myshell bots are not discovered by Google?

If I search for my bot I only get other platforms bots.

We might get some new users that are interested in using the bot for fun or as a tool.

[full token]

oh how come?

maybe ask pudding @manic glade

[whole crown]

does pudding reply?

[full token]

pudding super busy these days with some more important stuff

i'll ask pudding internally since the google searching thing is relevant to pudding

pudding our hero

[alpine flower]

he has not answered in a very long time.
I though he was gone.

I wrote a Suno song.
Hope you like it.

[hushed path]

It searches well for me!
Even with a new browser, it shows up....

[hushed path]

OMG @manic glade for you

[alpine flower]

Not myshell itself.
Our bots.
SHELLO
https://www.google.com/search?q=shello+bot&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sca_esv=2a9720fd994fa302&sxsrf=ADLYWIJkU_Y53e2dm97ym0pGtkRo74-6Kw%3A1721851526840&ei=hl6hZtjiMpS_p84P68mRmAo&oq=shello+bot&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIgpzaGVsbG8gYm90MgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGJ8FMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwVIjxxQ_g1YlxVwAXgBkAEAmAGaAaABsASqAQMwLjS4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgWgAqcFwgIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR8ICDRAAGIAEGLADGEMYigXCAhkQLhiABBiwAxjRAxhDGMcBGMgDGIoF2AEBwgITEC4YgAQYsAMYQxjIAxiKBdgBAcICDBAAGIAEGEMYigUYCsICDRAuGIAEGNEDGMcBGArCAg0QABiABBixAxiDARgKwgIHEC4YgAQYCsICBxAAGIAEGArCAgUQABiABJgDAIgGAZAGELoGBAgBGAiSBwMxLjSgB5UW&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

Otis cannabis crew bot
Shows only myshell feature page.
https://www.google.com/search?q=otis+cannabis+crew+bot&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sca_esv=2a9720fd994fa302&sxsrf=ADLYWIJa9379acH_JzLWUWNxBDPPi9jKWQ%3A1721851653862&ei=BV-hZvGUNJ3Ap84P2pa2GA&oq=otis+cannabis+crew+bot&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhZvdGlzIGNhbm5hYmlzIGNyZXcgYm90MgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFI6X1Qxh1YtnZwAngAkAECmAHaAaAB_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&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

Vicious gpt bot myshell
https://www.google.com/search?q=vicious+gpt+bot+myshell&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sca_esv=2a9720fd994fa302&sxsrf=ADLYWIJV8WsE0hG1phRFnElmAxRyXU1DWg%3A1721851943480&ei=J2ChZu3qHJOjp84PpabbyAo&oq=vicious+gpt+bot+myshell&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhd2aWNpb3VzIGdwdCBib3QgbXlzaGVsbDIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR0i-qgFQAFgAcAN4AZABAJgBAKABAKoBALgBA8gBAJgCA6ACbpgDAIgGAZAGCJIHATOgBwA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

"golden casino" myshell

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sca_esv=2a9720fd994fa302&sxsrf=ADLYWIIJteRm8SkpJ2Z33YFJu5Bea3-xfQ%3A1721852117943&q=CanaGold Casino&ludocid=5482186846478257430&ibp=gwp%3B0%2C7&lsig=AB86z5XjkvaxnDEp1fF8VgWDVBAf&kgs=c22388fe0211ae16&shndl=-1&shem=labmtre%2Clsde%2Clsp%2Cvslcea&source=sh%2Fx%2Floc%2Fact%2Fm4%2F2

[hushed path]

Ah, I see what you mean.
As described in "Top AIpp by market cap have the opportunity to enter new mechanism,"
if top-level apps are tokenized as NFTs or released separately, wouldn't they also show up on Google?
Let's keep an eye on these changes together.

[alpine flower]

Why does it not show like the flowgpt bots?

Otis cannabis cook
https://www.google.com/search?q=otis+the+cannabis+cook&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sca_esv=2a9720fd994fa302&sxsrf=ADLYWIIJteRm8SkpJ2Z33YFJu5Bea3-xfQ%3A1721852117943&ei=1WChZrqhOaehptQPh6KNkAc&oq=&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIgAqAggAMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCMgcQIxgnGOoCSKASUABYAHACeACQAQCYAesBoAHrAaoBAzItMbgBAcgBAPgBAZgCAqACPKgCD5gDJIgGAZIHATKgBy0&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[alpine flower]

What is the benifit of not being searched by Google?

[hushed path]

It's definitely better to have more exposure on Google.
However, isn't it true that the bot mechanism hasn't been fully implemented yet and that it currently works only within the Myshell app...
The bot links are also displayed as numbers, like https://app.myshell.ai/chat/1720526374, instead of the bot's name. In the future, top-tier bots might have names in the URL, like myshell.ai/chat/goldencasino.
Let's wait and see together!

[alpine flower]

Just seems like we are missing free exposure.

Especially for niche or specialty utility bots that people might actually search for.

And the people would arrive with the intention of using the bot.

And people using my bot is the reward. The coins ect is just future considerations.

[hushed path]

Yeah, you're right. Please participate in the upcoming Creator AMA and share your opinions!

#✍🏻｜creator-only message

I think it would be a great idea to actively suggest to the team that allowing URLs to be set based on bot names could help with Google exposure.

[radiant spire]

sadly I'm at work at 3 PM

[hushed path]

That's really unfortunate. Even if you can't participate, please share your opinions through the Google Form!

[radiant spire]

[alpine flower]

I'll try to listen.
But I also work at 3pm (except tomorrow)

There will be a transcript I guess?

[open vault]

not sure if it's held in chat format or talking format

[alpine flower]

I'll keep an eye & an ear out.

[radiant basalt]

The event just here?

[hard violet]

Dear <@&1129106307446755389> ,
Based on the current voting results, the ideal time for our fireside chat appears to be today between 2-3 PM UTC, which is about 8 hours from now.

For those who wish to attend, please make sure to fill out the form. This is crucial as the meeting link will only be sent to the email addresses provided in the form submissions.

If you haven't filled out the form yet but want to participate, please do so ASAP to receive the link.
I'll send the meeting link to the email addresses provided in the form submissions.

Looking forward to seeing you all in 8 hours.

[hollow coral]

pretty much, you got it

[full token]

lmao

we have it

today

spider sir come

[full token]

yes you're right we should prepare a transcript

but i want to do it pravately

maybe just share to few creators that i know names

[full token]

will keep a transcript for you borsuc

[full token]

just asked pudding

pudding said your bots are in the process of being collected by google, it maybe take a month

[alpine flower]

I'll be there.
In the poll I said today was no fir today.
But I can be there.

What do I have to do? Will a link pop up in Discord?

[radiant basalt]

Also my English is so bad😥

[radiant basalt]

Can I have one?

If I can't join

[radiant basalt]

I can't use microphone,can I just chat by text?

[alpine flower]

Do you have a cell phone? I use my cell for mic on Discord with the app

[radiant basalt]

I don't like voice chatting,1:My English speaking skills is not very good 2:My microphone is not working well

Just play some English games to learn some basic words

I'm afraid I might answer incorrectly and cause embarrassment😅

[alpine flower]

If you want to practice English let me know. Unfortunately I only speak English, but living in Toronto and being in retail sales for decades I speak with many people learning English everyday.

I do well understanding if you're interested.

[radiant basalt]

Thanks,I will consider if I have time

[alpine flower]

We can work on proconfig.

Kill 2 birds with one stone 🐦 🪨

[hard violet]

Dear <@&1129106307446755389> ,
We have just sent out the meeting link via email. Please check your inbox.

Important reminder:
When joining the meeting, please change your name to your Discord username.
If you don't, we will have to deny your request to enter the meeting.

The event will begin in 2 hours. Please be mindful of the time.

Additional note:
Due to the enthusiastic response and to manage speaking and question time effectively, we've selected a few representatives from each language and region.
If you weren't selected to participate, please don't be discouraged.
Our selection criteria were not based on your bot's performance; instead, we randomly chose participants from each language group to ensure fair representation.

[radiant basalt]

Oh so I can chat with language I use?

[full token]

i'll leave 20 minutes for 1:1 chat, and i'll have a standup meeting after the ama but if anyone wants to continue, feel free to wait me for 30 minutes and we back to the convo

[hard violet]

Na, we select some creators from your language channel.

[ornate wedge]

Fed up not recving an email maybe am too random
don't see at all a good reason for blocking ppl out of the chat

[hardy stump]

Oh, I thought the chat would be text.

I don't have Zoom

Plus I'm on a Huawei so I don't have GMS either.

[radiant basalt]

I can't speak English well😥

[daring vapor]

Did you receive in the end?

[hard violet]

But I saw you on our list.

[radiant basalt]

Use English to chat?

Must open microphone?

[hard violet]

Oh, my bad, you are not on the list. Cause your reply was too late, I'm sorry.

[radiant basalt]

Try to do my best

[glass imp]

Are there any observer seats available? Similar to an audience in an AMA

[spark grove]

I can't always fill out the form. I would like to know if there are any minutes of the meeting for creators who didn't attend.

[ornate wedge]

Not a problem bro. The point is that I didn't like the way you organize things in community like this. if you wanna keep it as a secret do it with a private group or sth, not necessarily bring up in a public channel

[hard violet]

Will consider it depends on how much creators still being confuse after this chat.

[hard violet]

We are not planning to hold a private event; this time, due to the need for discussions, we will only select a few representatives from each language region.

[glass imp]

Can you also answer this? @hard violet

[hard violet]

I'm afraid we cannot do that, sorry. We need to manually verify the candidates, so we cannot provide that method. However, we will have meeting minutes, so you won't miss any information.

[radiant basalt]

20 minutes!

[alpine flower]

I'll be there.
But sitting in car, im already there.

[kind pier]

waiting meeting minutes

[glass imp]

have you prepared your questions?

[glass imp]

same here

[radiant basalt]

I afraid I can't do well,but I'm trying to do my best

[radiant basalt]

Yeah

[hardy stump]

Is the final conference on Zoom?

[radiant basalt]

yes?

[hardy stump]

Oh

I thought it was gonna be on discord.

Kinda paranoid about Zoom's account security

[alpine flower]

Check your email

[hardy stump]

I did

I don't have zoom though.

[alpine flower]

Put it on an old phone or tablet if you got one

[hardy stump]

I'll just pass on this then.

[radiant basalt]

Hello, welcome back

[whole crown]

🦗 🦗 🦗

[alpine flower]

🦗 🦗 🦗

[radiant basalt]

🦗 🦗 🦗

[formal mauve]

Hey, how many shares creator can buy? still 5?

[open vault]

[radiant basalt]

:hifumi_yes:

[hollow coral]

how is the discussion last night? I missed

come to any conclusions?

[open vault]

Team gave a promising future

Team have a plan on supporting small creators, and new / good bots. They know all the problems in current system.

[glass imp]

Did they say anything about the same accounts using scripts who always get the early shars? I think team should offer a second chance for creators who published their AIpps but failed to get their first Xs or didn't get any at all.

[open vault]

not really, there was no question regarding to the script.

You can suggest them directly maybe

[glass imp]

Ok. I would. Just want to know if you've already discussed it last night.

[tender hinge]

Looks like I've been out of the loop for a hot minute lol

[glass imp]

Even using script is legit, I still think the team should offer the creators who have already published AIpps to get their first Xs. If they already bought it, reimburse the price differentials. Since they're going to ensure creators their own 5 Xs in the next update. Otherwise the random guys using scripts become the biggest winners in the game.

[keen quail]

No sniper bot yet. You could launch and buy directly at Asia sleeping time

[glass imp]

Nah, I will wait until they update. I have no confidence in beating those with tech.

[keen quail]

Recent 3 creators bought first 5 shares successfully

[glass imp]

My friends who published AIpps before didn't get their first Xs, some didn't even get any of the first 20.

[keen quail]

a lot of people watching on the first day.

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

what's up guys?

[open vault]

It's okay, just be patient. More patches to go.

[open vault]

The sky

[keen quail]

But by now, no one should be keeping an eye on it. After all, there are only 1-2 new AIpps per day.

[open vault]

v true

There will be a floody time when a creator can create multiple bots with multiple pass

[keen quail]

The contract will upgrade

[torpid spade]

[open vault]

Upgrade to which one?

You mean the DEX one?

[keen quail]

The first 5 shares are directly sent to the creator

[open vault]

Oh great to hear that

[keen quail]

The contract has been upgraded once before, but I don’t know what was upgraded. Upgrading the contract is serious and requires auditing. It will not be updated quickly.

[open vault]

Recent updates were so distracting

I need to start making my bots ... Should not be too much frantic on web 3 stuffs...

Code, Build...

[whole crown]

that's right ika, gotta go back to making peak

[open vault]

Watch kawaii girl to get rid of filthy minds

Isekai waits us......

[keen quail]

The community now lacks good curators. They can find high-quality bots to promote and gain red points, and at the same time, they can invest at low prices.

I believe things will change after the first season when red points are distributed

[open vault]

Getting an influence is definitely harder than being a good creator.
I really appreciate your influence. It takes years of continuous effort to do so

I am working on my X, but...

[keen quail]

Since I am also a creator, I prioritize promoting my own bot.
There is a huge market gap in curating high-quality bots

After a few seasons, you can just make your own bot and others will help you promote it. It's a win-win situation.

[open vault]

not only it's for me, it's for myshell too. Building great bot which would impress people who want to invest in Myshell

Showing the potential of Myshell to Shell coin buyers and investors

[rigid swan]

Hey guys long time no hear.
Hey... Is someone interessted in a Pass? I wanted to give one of my two Passes away for a good price. The only thing is that i don't know how.

[open vault]

Hey spark! It has been really long time seeing you.
I think you can use OpenSea for selling pass

[rigid swan]

Hey Ika, yeah its a long time.
I know it works over opensea... just don't know exactly how.

[open vault]

Do you have gas fee? You will need around 10$ as ETH.

After buying the gas fee on CEX, You can connect your wallet to Opensea, go to profile, and click the NFT to list it

[rigid swan]

I... don't completely get it... uff, new systems are hard to understand damn it.

I do stocks trading... i have no idea how all this web3 stuff works.

[radiant basalt]

Hello ika,hello sparc

Long time no see

[open vault]

[tender hinge]

I didn't know much about crypto before. So I asked the team about it, and they actually gave me some BNB to try out lol

[rigid swan]

I kind of don't do any ai bot related stuff, but i also don't want to just quit it all. Thats why i want to sell one pass and hold on to one for later than i get interested in bot making again.

[fallow snow]

[radiant basalt]

#🤣｜share-your-meme message

Let's help ika,his meme is on last place with a big gap...

Number 3

[glass imp]

Just ask claude3.5 and it will explain to you in a very clear way. You can send screenshot to it.

[alpine flower]

If i'm going to buy the 1st 5 shares on a bot, how much real money needs to be in my wallet?
and
what is a safe & easy way to get it there?
#📢｜product-updates message

[radiant basalt]

WAIT

I MADE A MISTAKE

[keen quail]

0.0017325 BNB, 1.04u https://bscscan.com/tx/0x528216613e180878df7de641383b6541ebeca00a7585e17e7ca220c92c799fc7

[radiant basalt]

plus 5% tax

[alpine flower]

what is a good way to get money in the wallet? what service is safe & easy for a web3 n00b

[keen quail]

buy from binance(or other CEX) or OTC from community member

0.003 BNB is enough for buy 5 shares and launch

[alpine flower]

Thanks.

[alpine flower]

Help

I listed my bot and I cannot find the shares

@open vault

It didn't take a fee?

Can anyone direct me?

[whole crown]

check "my portfolio"

[alpine flower]

It's not there. Empty

Does that mean I didn't do it?

[radiant basalt]

hi

🤔 idk too sorry

I launch it before

you launch your app?

can't find it

[alpine flower]

How do I know what I did wrong?

I have .01 bnb

[radiant basalt]

dm me

[hard violet]

What happened bro?

[alpine flower]

Didn't work from cell.

I clicked launch from the chat window.

Now I'm doing on pc.
Seems to be working.

Thank you

[alpine flower]

How long should this take?

Spinning for a while

I only got 1 share
Instead of 5.

If I try again it want more money

At least I got 1

Oh well.
Woops.

The pc didn't complete the transaction

So I tried again with phone, but didn't realize it was only one transaction allowed and put 1 share as test..

[keen quail]

Launched

[alpine flower]

Yup.
Just due to my lack understanding I only got 1 share. But it's a start. And a lesson

[hard violet]

It normally takes you just few secs, but I don't get why you end up bought just 1 share?

You switched to your phone then you bought 1 share at the same time?

[alpine flower]

I waited about 10 min on the pc.
Then I opened it on the phone and did 1 share. Correct.

I though I had 1 hr to make purchase.

I didn't realize that the 1st purchase was it.

Or the purchase open it up for public mysoul sales.

I thought I could purchase 5 shares in a 1 hour period regardless of if 5 at once or 1 at time.

[alpine flower]

Thank you @everyone for helping me

Hey.
What happened to the links? No pic or descriptions?
https://app.myshell.ai/bot/NbYvyq/1712115724

[glass imp]

I'd suggest all creators transitioning from Web2 to learn about Web3 security. It's easy to have your wallet stolen by clicking phishing links on social media platforms like X (Twitter), or by authorizing your wallet on malicious websites. Do your own research, use reputable security tools, and always double-check before interacting with any Web3 application to protect your assets.

[open vault]

It's really important, Never click suspicious links... Even doubt the most trustworthy ones. Never believe whomever says 'Free~~' something like that...
Always click the URLs from official discord/twitter. Try not to find the site by google...

So many things to mention, Web3 is too wild

Just create good bots

[jolly dune]

I'm so dead

[tender hinge]

I've heard similar stories.
My friend clicked on a fake web that looked exactly like the real deal.
Before he knew it, his crypto was gone.

[torpid spade]

[hollow coral]

When will the limit on creating bots be increased? 15 is a bit too few... really think so

[fallow snow]

I am half dead.

[sudden pagoda]

Extension pack for Rain (Menhera-chan / Stalker-chan.)

Terribly long way to go. Still working on it.

[open vault]

pic of the day

[whole crown]

Looks nice What prompts do you use for the light circles in the background?

[open vault]

I didn't use any prompts Just used Cinematic style

[whole crown]

Cinematic style? Sorry idk much about sd

Like controlnet or smth?

[open vault]

you can check

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/yMz6Vr/1719035992

[whole crown]

Ohhh i see

[spark grove]

your lora？

[open vault]

It's not the lora, it's just style selector in AnimagineXL.

try it out

[restive karma]

Another nice bot. Cool

[hard violet]

<@&1129106307446755389>
We recognize that many creators new to Web3 are encountering difficulties when launching their AIpps.
In response to our recent conversations and your valuable feedback, we've developed a comprehensive AIpp Launch tutorial specifically for Creators.

If you still find Web3 confusing or uncertain after reviewing this guide, we encourage you to reach out.
Feel free to post your questions or suggestions in https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1267719133823504384, or send a direct message to me or @full token .
We're committed to supporting you and will address your concerns as soon as we're available.
https://www.notion.so/myshellai/AIpp-Launch-Guide-for-Creators-20a044c4a0f14c00a3e9e991030d19e4

[halcyon fossil]

Do I still have a chance to rename AIpp? I didn't see any duplicate names at first (my fault), but now it has given me a _2 identifier. It looks very counterfeit.

[molten hamlet]

I agree, it would be nice if we could rebrand by changing the ticker or the target bot, even if it was only for a limited number of times.

[hard violet]

I apologize for the inconvenience, but I'm afraid the $ticker was indeed set as unchangeable from the beginning.
On the bright side, you're the only user who has encountered this situation.
Perhaps you could approach this from a different angle?

[radiant basalt]

gm creators

Don't miss our chance to launch AIPP🔥

https://www.notion.so/myshellai/AIpp-Launch-Guide-for-Creators-20a044c4a0f14c00a3e9e991030d19e4

The perfect guide for creators to start with AIPP store

[open vault]

[whole crown]

at least they added lucky star mission thing

[open vault]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-intro-lucky-star-gif-26445951

Then I am unlucky one XD

[tender hinge]

I'm lucky star lol

But I sold them all.....

[whole crown]

i wonder if i am going to be a lucky star... but doesn't really matter if i will, i don't even have a share of my own bot anyways

oh nvm my bot got randomly pumped a few minutes ago

[radiant basalt]

...

[radiant basalt]

The new update just give creator a big boost

top of the page+bonus point+ bot ranking reveal

[radiant basalt]

one more feature:

high quality official advertise

May I ask a question?

The hints of these models are too vague or have no hints at all, but some people have successfully used these models. May I ask how to achieve this?

Should add a example

[open vault]

Buying / Pumping the creator's bot could be important but is not the main thing to consider.

What should be more considered is : "Does it encourage creators to create good bots / or at least more creators enjoy creating bots?"

Well...

---

I found out that current system only frustrates creators how their bots are underrated.

It might benefit a little bit with some trading fees, but most of the people are just discouraged.

---

People might buy, sell, use recommended bots more.

So what? Creator channel seems way less active than half a year ago. People lost their interests for creating and sharing.

I miss the days people talking to each other and sharing their creations like dumbs and friends

[whole crown]

true, for me, probably finally adding some kind of feedback or comment system in myshell would motivate me 10 times more to create bots than the fees i get from AIpp. For me feedback and nice words was the encouragement to create bots, even way before myshell

[open vault]

And we told the team to add that feature for half a year

[whole crown]

yeah, almost everyone who was interested in making bots and loved doing it in myshell have stopped a long time ago. Can't really blame them

[open vault]

Web 3 people will hype and make the coin expensive, true

I now have no people to whine on and talk together... It's more like an hollow howling.

[whole crown]

yeah, but also-

oh

[tiny wing]

It sort of makes sense, the creator space feels more like an exclusive thing more than an inclusive thing unlike before and even if you had a bit of currency you need the MySoul thing to enter; rendering most creators unable to participate. Also we sort of don't know what to do with the coins.

[whole crown]

also you have to take in mind old creators might have changed their hobbies, and there are no new entering myshell. it was bound to happen some day

[tiny wing]

I'm sort of dabbling with AI, though more so for personal stuff but I can see how most of the previously interested ones changed hobbies.

[open vault]

no incoming, only outgoings

[whole crown]

yeah, you can't even have badges to invest coins in, they are just sitting there...

[open vault]

Technically you don't need mysoul to buy your own creations

[tiny wing]

Im having weird feelings throughout the entire thing now.

Orz so I can have more coins?

[open vault]

Still, it's hard indeed

[tiny wing]

What do you do with the coins

[open vault]

doubt it, because it must be "Hyped" and "Selected" by web 3 people

[open vault]

...Wait for TGE when coins actually have the value?

[open vault]

Long time ago, pudding used to give out creator pass and "Scout" creators from other platforms

[whole crown]

the tge will come... some day... hopefully...

[open vault]

Without that kind of... activity, there only could be a few good creators

Money is not everything...

Even they have made 'Temporary pass' system that could be later on changed into real creator pass, but they are not using it to hype between creators

[whole crown]

yeah, i helped a little with scouting, but the ones i recruited... became really inactive really fast

[open vault]

We need the remainings

30 remainings is enough to make community always active

[tiny wing]

Well, even without the money thing there's a bunch of other limits though this really isn't a MyShell thing only which is still a problem.

A bunch of suggestions have been pending for more than a year already that I sort of forgot about them most already.

[whole crown]

so tragic it's sort of funny..

[tiny wing]

Atleast from what I've read on the forum

[open vault]

Team is developing the "Product"

Which is more fancy to web 3 buyers... Their buyer is not creators, so...

[tiny wing]

The attention sort of went to towards apps, the creatives were sort of invited as prompt engineers too

Not developers

[open vault]

[tiny wing]

So when that happened the split already happened

Though that's for the others lewl

I didn't change and used prompting still

But that's probably how others feel?

[whole crown]

yeah some of the creators definitely seeing the way pro config bots were doing when compared to prompt bots got a bit discouraged.

[open vault]

[whole crown]

but there are still prompt bots that are doing well, look at utena's bots

[open vault]

And it takes tons of times to build pro config apps...

[whole crown]

they are doing good, but they probably die down faster i suppose

[open vault]

But for the pro config issue, widgets and further updates will solve it a bit

[whole crown]

yeah, previously i would spend more time creating the image for the bot more than i did the prompt for the bot

[open vault]

I still do

But previously, building one bot was max 2~3 days... Usually few hours

[whole crown]

lmao, then we probably have different standards for the bots image

[tiny wing]

There's a lot of aspects really lewl. Well I'm treating this all as a hobby so I'm not bothered by it, but I can see a bunch of others aren't so interested anymore.

[open vault]

Now it's like a month

[whole crown]

(hifumi_yes) (don't have nitro)

[open vault]

There will be some more simple methods to create bots

The environment will get gradually better...

But it is only after all the creators had already left.

Free LLM is a great merit

But why no good community like other platforms

[tiny wing]

probably the suggestion thing i mentioned lewl

If you're pro prompting only like what I do you're sort of very limited even though the fixes already exist in frontends such as silly

you sort of even have to do a javascript trick just to get the time

[whole crown]

yeah you cant even use prefill with normal prompt bots, which should be like... The easiest thing to add ever

[jolly dune]

Is there consequences if I unpublished a bot that is already listed on the Aipp?

[open vault]

You get a "SCAM USER" mark

[tiny wing]

lawl

[whole crown]

lmao

i thought it's only for transferring creator passs

[open vault]

50k user crushon ai has way better community...

[jolly dune]

Choose your aipp wisely guys haha

[open vault]

Should we make

Another discord only for creators

[tiny wing]

The questions is more like

[open vault]

Just... A chitchat server that won't offend others

[tiny wing]

what happens to the users whom bought shares as you unstake your bot

Do they get their crypto back?

[open vault]

The crypto is listed still.

It will gradually die away since it has a scam mark...

[tiny wing]

rip

[whole crown]

i mean, not everyone can publish bots and see the cool interaction numbers, so there still aren't a lot of bots here, and there is no way for creators to get born here. a lot of people just want slop bots of like ghost from cod or smth

[open vault]

There are almost no real users in this discord.
Only gm, farmers and traders.

[whole crown]

plus some creators that i've tried to recruit said that the whole crypto thing is pushing them away, the slop bot creators wouldn't even get any coins from it, but they will still create anything

[open vault]

[tiny wing]

Thats the issue yup also its so strict

[whole crown]

we could

[tiny wing]

first entering this group it felt very cold and although I'm used to such environments I can easily see how anyone else would steer away.

That was like my first impressions months ago.

[jolly dune]

I missed the hype

[open vault]

https://discord.com/invite/27v6VqZb

Maybe here would be good to start

Most of them are web 2 people who joined from my bot...

[jolly dune]

Joined

[whole crown]

first time i came here i created a private bot, didn't know what to do, no one was answering, and i disappeared for a month until pudding wrote something to me

[open vault]

But honestly I almost dumped the server. I don't know how to decorate it.

[tiny wing]

I'm sort of just looking at what everyones doing

Im more interested in just the entire AI thing as a whole lewl

[open vault]

I am more interested in talking goofy :

[tiny wing]

I'd join those groups but they usually taint my eyes

Ai chat bot communities are more unhinged than writing or art ones lawl

[jolly dune]

[spark grove]

🐈

[whole crown]

don't worry we will be very wholesome

(trust)

[keen quail]

Compared to similar projects, MyShell has provided many potential incentives for creators, though these aren't very apparent yet due to the lack of TGE, we don't know how much $SHELL value.
Adopting a Web3 strategy necessarily means attracting a large number of speculative users to generate impressive data and tell a compelling story.
Many of the creators previously nurtured by Pudding and others were part of a multi-platform strategy and didn't have high loyalty.
Recently, new creators like kiko & Cyber Dick Lang who focused on image bots, have been specifically invited to join the platform. Team is still working hard.

I think what is not good is that MyShell operates like a web2 commercial company instead of a web3 open source platform. I can't contribute code to them, but no one cares about this. They can't meet everyone's needs.

[open vault]

Tech otakus need their place to rest

[radiant basalt]

gm creators

[nocturne horizon]

Lacking inspiration.

[open vault]

That's why we need otaku web-2 main groups

[nocturne horizon]

Am I a otaku, I ask myself

[radiant basalt]

what does otaku mean?

[nocturne horizon]

Otaku (Japanese: おたく, オタク, or ヲタク) is a Japanese word that describes people with consuming interests, particularly in anime, manga, video games, or computers.
by wiki

[radiant basalt]

御宅

I'm also learning japanese

[open vault]

Although they have not much to do with tech developings

They are enthusiastic of their hobbies

They love to create and consume the culture itself, not as a part of work

[nocturne horizon]

My passion for ACG is waning as I get older 😦

[jolly dune]

[radiant basalt]

very cold...

[nocturne horizon]

My passion remains only for NSFW.

[radiant basalt]

myshell server is become colder and colder...

discord.gg/myshell

197,581 members now

but only 6.5k people online...

and most of them are gmers

[tender hinge]

The engagement gap between the meme generator and NSFW is wild.
Not judging, just saying...lol

[nocturne horizon]

I'm not quite sure about the performance of the Meme Generator. Are you saying that not many people are using it?

[radiant basalt]

what meme generator and NSFW?

what is ACG?

[tender hinge]

Maybe, looks like users are way more into NSFW stuff than making funny memes... lol

[radiant basalt]

lol

NSFW bots are hotter than meme?

[tender hinge]

I was talking about bots that help users make memes, not bots that are memes themselves.

[nocturne horizon]

This is actually quite normal. Even before discussing preferences, the original nature of the two will create such differences.

NSFW is a form of interactive chatting and plot advancement where users must continuously respond back and forth.

However, with the Meme Generator, once users create memes to their satisfaction, it's done. At most, they might try several times, but it's still far less engaging than NSFW.

[tender hinge]

Sounds reasonable

[radiant basalt]

May I ask what are you twos talking about?

bots about meme and NSFW?

[nocturne horizon]

just discussing the performance of meme generator and NSFW chat bot

I think even through a PG13 chat bot will make more conversation than the tools or picture generator

[tender hinge]

That rly makes sense, bro

[nocturne horizon]

I think perhaps myshell team can consider ways to incentivize this type of tool-producing AI bot since they are different from chat bots.

[radiant basalt]

alex is the creator of meme creator?

[open vault]

I have been telling it and I thought the same way... But recently my POV has slightly changed.

Less user indicates less needs

[hard violet]

Compared to chatbots, image-generating bots typically have a lower average number of interactions per user.
A higher number of interactions might actually indicate that users are frequently regenerating images due to unsatisfactory results.

I've also tried the Meme Generator before, and the output was quite good.
However, a lower ranking doesn't necessarily represent poor quality. I believe this is why MyShell continues to help promote your bot.

[hard violet]

Exactly. Fewer engagements might actually indicate that users are quickly getting satisfactory results.

[open vault]

must provide a feature that leads to user's continuous engagement

For example, waifu generator gives a further chat system for extended engagement.

[hard violet]

I saw it haha

MyShell introduced this prize pool specifically to encourage creators to launch AIpps.
That's why we've limited the eligibility to the AIpp store and set up various competition categories.

You've raised a valid point about the trading return competition.
There is indeed a possibility that creators might stop trading after achieving high performance.
However, this scenario would only occur if their AIpp's value increases significantly, and they manage to sell at the peak – which, as you can imagine, is extremely challenging.

Please don't misunderstand our intentions.
We're aiming for a ripple effect.
Even the first-place prize is only $2000, which might be less than Top-Teir Creators' transaction fees over several weeks.
Our real goal is to motivate more creators to join the AIpp Store ecosystem and embrace Web3 culture.

@open vault

[open vault]

However, this scenario would only occur if their AIpp's value increases significantly, and they manage to sell at the peak – which, as you can imagine, is extremely challenging.

-> I think you should be more calculative in this scenario.

Let's take an example. I make an account and buy only 1 at 0.0003BNB.
Buying initial 5 will be 0.0035 average cost.
No one will be able to beat me if I sell it in only 0.1BNB. Others need to sell it on 1.1BNB to achieve it

[hard violet]

then another creator can do this then sell it at 0.6 BNB

However, when you try to do this, you lost much for the rest 4 shares' return

[open vault]

I am asking; Is this the purpose of the ROI game? I don't think so.

You could simply set a bottom line buy volume like 1BNB or something like that to prevent it

[hard violet]

Because when we use "how much you earn" to line up. It doesn't make sense foe those who don't have that much principle

[open vault]

and you could set some low line like 0.05BNB...

[hard violet]

I got you bro

[open vault]

Also, it gives massive demerits to people who have already made some trades.

How is ROI calculated? Total profit / Total volume? Total profit / Max volume? Total profit / average holdings?

In most of the cases, people who have held novel AIpps and did not make any more trades will be likely to get the reward.

I don't get what is team's intention, or main goal after using 10000$ in this kind of competition
For Volume competition, I can understand... But I really don't get ROI competition.

===
Also, for App dev competition.

MyShell introduced this prize pool specifically to encourage creators to launch AIpps. That's why we've limited the eligibility to the AIpp store and set up various competition categories.

Okay, I got this point. However, it gives no answer to all the following questions in the feedback channel.

#🆘｜ask-the-team message

1. If a creator has already used up their AIpp quota, they can't publish other bots even if they want to. If a creator has been preparing a new bot for AIpp and already used up his AIpp chances, then he can't participate.

2. Old creations are able to get in the competition - So, this is not about building new bots, but just publishing? Creators don't have to create new bots? Why... the team's KPI is only about "Just more AIpp", not about "new great bots being created" and entering AIpp?

3. Again, I really don't understand why trading volume is in the criteria. The team really should change the criteria. Creators need to target for better AIpp when AIpp are just a meme coin nowadays? ...How? and Why?

===

I thought this hackathon would support / encourage creators to make new bots... This criteria does not support it at all.

---

I have long been told that team is always supporting creators, and the team values creator the most.
The team told to creators wait for Hackathon. And now what?
10000$ volume - okay
10000$ ROI - why? for what do you spend money? like... hype? or any other specific goals?
10000$ Creator - KPI is not a "Great Creations and Killer Apps", rather it is "IDK, just hype AIpp...somehow "
10000$ Widget - Unknown

Does any of the team think any creator will love this? Then he needs to think of it again... more logically.

[open vault]

If your goal is to hype in web 3, and the team has set the KPI of "Trading Volume" "TVL" "AIpps launched", well... I think there could be a better way to spend money, but still, it makes a little bit of sense.

If any of "Number of fine creators" or "Number of Killer apps" was included in the team's KPI, well... It seems to be an epic failure. Creators are leaving.

Artists need friendly environment.

[hard violet]

Q:If a creator has already used up their AIpp quota, they can't publish other bots even if they want to. If a creator has been preparing a new bot for AIpp and already used up his AIpp chances, then he can't participate.

A: For those AIpps that already exist, they also count to participant.

[open vault]

If he was preparing "New" "Better" bots for next 2 months. It is enough time to build 2 massive projects like 'From Zero'.

[hard violet]

Q:Old creations are able to get in the competition - So, this is not about building new bots, but just publishing? :thonk: Creators don't have to create new bots? Why... the team's KPI is only about "Just more AIpp", not about "new great bots being created" and entering AIpp?

A:As I mentioned earlier, this competition is just a small part of a series of activities MyShell plans to launch in the future. Don't think of this as the entirety of our creator incentives. This is merely one collaborative event as part of the AIpp Store launch and our partnership with the BSC ecosystem.

[open vault]

= These were not meant to support creators (Although we kept on mentioning it will support creators) Just wait for unknown plans in future.

• The team does not really care about Killer Apps (No answer on team's KPI, just answering to wait)

[hard violet]

Q:Again, I really don't understand why trading volume is in the criteria. The team really should change the criteria. Creators need to target for better AIpp when AIpp are just a meme coin nowadays? ...How? and Why?

A:The criteria for this evaluation involve a 'manual review' process where we comprehensively assess various data points for each bot. This may include factors such as quality and market performance. It's important to note that this doesn't mean we'll award prizes to AIpps without any practical utility.

[open vault]

Okay, I don't need to make new bots

it's really great news. I will just go play some Apex

I was so worried if I had to grind for another 2 months.

Great answer, "Be patient and nothing will change. The team is not focusing at all on Creator side."

---

Sir, personally I don't think it is your stance. I really thought you had a dream to live with community where it is sustainable, full of creators + traders + web 2 users + web 3 users.
This is quite different from our talks on creator channels.
I don't know who is in charge of this whole thing, but this is getting mad, so much red-eyed on web 3.

[hard violet]

This campaign is truly just a small part of our incentives for creators, not the whole picture.
You can see team's efforts to change the current AIpp store landscape, which has been overly populated with purely speculative offerings. Recent developments, such as Kiko joining us and the launch of several popular AIpps, are results of these efforts.

[open vault]

The creator pool is long forgotten.
Publish of new bots are long forgotten in front of that AIpp or Ape thingi.
There were so many voluntary artists long ago. Where are they now?

[open vault]

They are just long forgotten, like Night's suggestions.

Creators can't any more find "Fun" on making bots, or have their own ecosystem to hype themselves.
The team has abandoned creators for too long times, and the ecosystem has been shrunk unreversibly.

Yes, there are some web-3 induced creators who seek for coins, but there are no "Volunteers". What kind of community is this, not run by people but run by money?
Does users play bots for money too? Where is this project rooted? What's the key mechanism that moves people?

Why should a bot need to be "Featured" to be used? Why should the team put the bot on the "Task" to hype the bot?
Why the community themselves can't find good bots, fun bots, and drive the virtuous cycle?

Because the team has long forgotten it.

This is a total despair.

Is it so hard to keep only a little portion purely for creators? Is it that hard?
Must 10000$ Creator pool be restricted with that dumb dirty web 3 things?

---

Why did I grind so much time on Pro Config mode? Because there were $Shell? NO. It would be way better to just print out numerous NSFW bots in that amount of time. I grinded whole month for 1 bot that was used by only a few of "real users", and I did it multiple times.

Why did I do such a silly thing? To be featured and to get in Tasks to earn more $Shell?

No.

I just found it fun to create, and I believed MyShell's potential on creator side, and truly believed that Myshell will build an awesome creator community.

Now what? Wow! Tremendous result!

Isn't this something wrong?

---

Just tell the creators.

You guys really care, or not?
Currently you are not.

I have trusted the team so many times. Even when all the other people left the community I have remained solid still.
Not because I thought everything were perfect, nor because I was too dumb. I was just bearing with it.|
So, don't tell us to wait, never again. It's already too late, but it's the earliest moment we have got.

[hard violet]

Ika, I deeply respect your commitment to optimizing your bot without any expectation of personal gain.
However, you can see that one of our main challenges is addressing the situation where Web2 creators can't sustain themselves solely by creating bots.

Indeed, as you've pointed out, many creators design bots out of passion, but the majority are motivated by various benefits.
This reality forms the core of our mission: to create an economic flywheel for creators.
We aim to enable passionate, consistently contributing creators like yourself to earn rewards that far exceed what traditional companies can offer.

I am not saying that all creators join the MyShell ecosystem solely for financial gain.
We understand that some creators have life commitments that necessitate income from their work. That's why we continue to provide support.
All user needs are being recorded, but there are inevitably issues of prioritization. We hope you can trust that MyShell is working diligently to address these needs.😢

[open vault]

"Wait, we need to prioritize on other things."
"Others are taking benefits from it."

Great

[open vault]

Great team, great

No need to build bots. Seems there are already enough bots to look like #1 AI Dapp.

You still did not answer any of my points directly.

I am not saying that all creators join the MyShell ecosystem solely for financial gain.
Did I say ban creators from joining the MyShell ecosystem? I just told that "Better ecosystem needed in creator side" and it's a great chance to encourage creators to make new apps. Is it that hard?

economic flywheel for creators
There are tons of community where there are so many creators without economic fly wheel. Does the team ever thought of it?
What's the goal for making the economic flywheel? Isn't it to get more creators and make a nice community?
What's the use of flywheel when the creators are all dead, and you had so many chances (including the Hackathon) to encourage creators?

This is so called "Wag the dog".

Further more. Why we need nice community?
Because, more great creations and more users, the value of the platform will increase.

MORE GREAT CREATIONS. it directly increase platform's value and it must be one of the end goal, isn't it?
Now the team seems to have forgotten the final checkpoint too.

Initially I thought of making out a forest... But so what? Even without a forest, we can make out the money with only the blueprint for the forest.

Let's get the blueprint done first, plant the trees later on. Focus on building a 'Plausible product'.```

[whole crown]

Recently, myshell never fails to disappoint

I mean seriously, how hard would it be to leave out some web 3 [redacted] from an event that is said to reward the creators for their web2 creations?

[radiant basalt]

creator channel got flooded with ika and kevins chat

what are you twos talking about? new event?

[open vault]

Ask GPT to summarize it

[radiant basalt]

limit

I should ask claude

know what are you twos talking about

[open vault]

They literally don't care about creators anymore.
No more patience.

[alpine flower]

@open vault please correct me if i. Wrong .

But to me it looks like they are talking about the shift the direction myshell has taken to develop web3 and ape store.

Unfortunately for us, the creators and thier creations seem to be only eye candy for the store to draw investors.

And our creativity and the incentives for creating a bot for the community have been reduced or removed.

[open vault]

I don't think the incentive is reduced or removed. But I can tell that team is more focusing on Web3 than creators now.

They don't care if we make more bots or not

[alpine flower]

(Good or Useful bots at least)

[open vault]

And I can see creator community has been gradually shrinking, and almost no one left.

During last several months, the team prioritized 'developing the product' too much.
Even before pro config mode update, there were people leaving since the team did not patch what creators eagered for (ex> editing previous messages, Re-creating reply, etc...)
After Pro config mode, well... apparantly it was so hard and so many creators left struggling to learn it.

Price chart of Myshell Creator Pass.

At the time there were so many people eager to learn and eager to buy.

Well, now it's going down, more people selling it, and the price went lower than 0.3ETH.

Price could go up for Aipp launching whatever but the key is that "Creators are dying out" and "Team does not listen to Creators' talks"

[alpine flower]

I was so excited to be part of a vibrant creator community where even the lesser skilled (like myself) were welcomed and encouraged.

It has been very discouraging for me lately. I love making and using my bots still very much.

And I really like proconfig even though I'm not an elite coder or prompt maker.

That is why I'm still here. All the future promises ect seem very flexible and hard to depend on.

So I'm here for the bots still, but it's getting harder. If there was an alternative to proconfig I now likely would check it out where as a month ago that would not even be in my head.

[open vault]

They always say they care. Welp, No, I never saw the team actually caring creators. They prioritize web 3 stuffs, and then maybe leave "creators' portion".
Reward is not everything. Handful of shell coins we don't know when it will be money? Piss off.
What the creators need is 'Community' and 'Communication' from the team that actually "Prioritize" creators' opinion.

The team don't communicate at all. They say "They listen" but nothing changes, it's not called a communication but rather an one direction suggestion.

---

Wasn't the AIpp store designed for few good bots initially? Why the team suddenly changed the design to open up to every people, and create meaningless hype and so happy about it?

Are you so proud of that "Self made volume" in exchange of wrongly designed green point, and post it on twitter?

[alpine flower]

Yes. But do you think it's too late to fix?

For creator web 2 community at least.

[open vault]

It's always too late, so it should be started immediately.

[alpine flower]

The transparency of many things needs to be addressed for confidence and accountability.

[open vault]

or just they are giving up.

Honestly, it seems that they are just giving up on creator community.

[open vault]

Exactly like this.

This one is really funny too. Why do you think it was posted?

https://x.com/cryptoxiao1127/status/1818793857997586689

Cryptoxiao (@cryptoxiao1127) on X

发推也不给分？我带了几百个人进来 审核不通过？ 玩阴的？ 脸都不要了？ 2个活动给你们拉了多少tvl？ 看看我的key现在交易排名第几 真的难蚌 一个好好的项目被乱运营死 @0xAikoDai @myshell_ai

Twitter · Jul 31, 2024, 11:40 PM

Because the Web 3 influencer whined about it.

---

I am not saying anything bad about him. He did what he had to do.

I am talking about the team.

---

My points at that time were not even distributed out. I submitted 3 tweets too, and none of them were checked by the team.
Why were they such in hurry to make an announcement "Oh, I am sorry. I had distributed it right now!" before 24 hours passed?
And my points are still not given out. Fake announcement concerning that tweet.

[radiant basalt]

you two are "flooding" the creator channel again?

[open vault]

The team is so scared of web 3 people only.
They don't give a shit about creators.

[alpine flower]

Web 3 = money
Web 2 = overhead cost

Kinda makes sense

[open vault]

This is not even flooding.

This is considered as flooding because creator channel was so quiet before. Why? "Because the team abandoned creators."

I could scroll up to the beginning of today's chat. This isn't even a flood 🤣

[radiant basalt]

I put quotation marks on it

🤣

ika is making the creator channel hot🔥

[alpine flower]

To me @open vault is the only one who is still concerned about the creator's.
And he doesn't need to be.

[open vault]

The channel was -30°C, now it's around 4°C

Chinese channel 181°C

[alpine flower]

More creators?

[open vault]

but in chinese

I had told the team numerous times that I don't want to be a top creator and just go retire
I really hoped one day there will be so many creators leaping over me, and believed that MyShell will provide such environment.
Believed. I don't believe it any more.

They are now kicking me out from creating 🤣 How hillarious

[alpine flower]

? How ?

[open vault]

Q:Old creations are able to get in the competition - So, this is not about building new bots, but just publishing? :thonk:  Creators don't have to create new bots? Why... the team's KPI is only about "Just more AIpp", not about "new great bots being created" and entering AIpp?

A:As I mentioned earlier, this competition is just a small part of a series of activities MyShell plans to launch in the future. Don't think of this as the entirety of our creator incentives. This is merely one collaborative event as part of the AIpp Store launch and our partnership with the BSC ecosystem.

Up there

They don't need more new bots 🤣 They are just distributing 10000$ cash out meaninglessly only in concern of Web3

Why should I create one while I can just launch my old apps on AIpps? I have raised the question, and how fun the returning answer is

Indeed, as you've pointed out, many creators design bots out of passion, but the majority are motivated by various benefits.
This one is really hillarious too. You should make out a survey... But there are no creators to survey on 🤣 Of course, because the 'Minority' who build bots out of passion already died out and not in MyShell. Why should they stay?

I kept told the team that "Winners takes too much pie" for the creations. Losers, out of rank, gets near-no points.
Like, several months. Near half a year. How are they motivated by various benefits?

Oh, by 'They' you meant the cheater creators?

[open vault]

Will things ever go back

Putting it honest.

Even if the team somehow manages to polish the Hackathon beautifully, I don't think the lost trust between the team and creators will return.
We need more time to polish everything, recruit new creators or find the gone creators, make them "interested" being inside MyShell......
Also, there are no real users to give out real feedbacks......

Maybe the golden time has passed like half a year ago.
I really feel hopeless.

[keen quail]

The new mechanism allows more people to have a taste of the pie, which is much better than before

[open vault]

please, stop getting web 3 things inside here.

[keen quail]

If new creators do well in their bots like kiko, they will also get rewards.

[open vault]

Kiko is recruited by Myshell team. And supported by Myshell.

New mechanism allows who? crypto people chatting with gals? Rather go to random anime community to shout out.

[keen quail]

Just think of hosting a hackathon as a marketing event for external developers.

[open vault]

external "Crypto developers".
Again, where are "creators"?

[keen quail]

You can get rewards by publishing any AIpp. I think it is easier for mid- and tail-end creators than before.

[open vault]

Please

Stop getting things filthy with AIpp.

Have you read all the despair from a person who lost his own playground? and lost all the friends who used to play together?

100$, 200$, Great. Wow. It really encourages creators to make out novel bots.

Is it? No. They don't have reason to develop their apps further more.

[keen quail]

I'm sorry I can't think from the creator's perspective. I'm always trying to get more people to use my bot, but it's very difficult.

[open vault]

Come on, you know that this whole thing does no relationship with all 'creator' things. You are the one who knows the best.

You know that most of the creators get almost no benefits from this system.
Trader gets the most pie, and the ambitious ones to invest well, or plan a nice strategy.

Yes, great. I think it's the best move from users. It's fine.

However, Don't talk like that as if it benefits creators. It never did, and actually it made creators feel far more lost.
And with Hackathon things, I feel more lost than ever. Ever.

[keen quail]

My motivation to update my bot is just because I need to use it, if you care about your users you will also update it.

[open vault]

Who is users? Do I ever see one?

I see only "GM" "Wen TGE"

The community must stand before there are any "Users" or "Bot lovers" to take care about.
The community might hype for web 3 people, but it is dying for creators.

[keen quail]

So the problem is the marketing . Hackathon is also a marketing activity.

[open vault]

"Communication"
"System"
"Priority"

"The feeling of being connected"

[radiant basalt]

I'm watching

[open vault]

Why people leave? Because they earn less shell coins?

[keen quail]

What the team is doing now is to attract more people, but retention is really not good.

[open vault]

No. They lost interests

Attract more web 3 people, and it quite worked well Let's talk goods for goods... Honestly, I think it was lucky for team to find you and 6551 family

[keen quail]

All projects have user loss, the overall environment is not good

[open vault]

We really need powerful influencers like you in web 3 community, hype really matters and words need to spread

But

It's web 3 things. Bots are run in totally diffent manner.

[keen quail]

I don’t really know the users who uses AI friend, but I know web3 degens

[open vault]

[keen quail]

The users I can attract are also this type of people

[open vault]

We definitely need those kind of people... Especially for healthy crypto ecosystem

[whole crown]

@keen quail

You are not a passionate bot creator, you are a web3 investor and influencer. You do not know or understand the struggles the creator community is feeling, especially the creators that have been here from the beginning.

You should really stop speaking for people like that and try to surpress or deny the problems that creators have from the recent actions of the myshell team. It's both infuriating and not helping.

[keen quail]

I remember pudding hated web3 stuff, he should know the user groups you care about

[open vault]

C.Ai has 0.2 billion MAU. They are all people who eager for AI friends.

[keen quail]

We need to understand each other, but we also need to pay attention to the community atmosphere

[open vault]

But

can you stop blurring the point?

This is not about we understanding each other. We have been literally dying out for 6 months

This is about system.

[open vault]

So, please, never talk like this.

NEVER.

[keen quail]

Even if the hackathon was not well thought out, it was still a small marketing expense.

[open vault]

This really is an insult for creators.

Do you know when to stop talking?

It's when you don't get the point.

[whole crown]

If

Gm
Gm
Gm
Gm
Gm

Is the current community atmosphere, I, and probably any other creators, don't really want to be a part of it.

[keen quail]

I hope more creators will stand up and express their opinions.

[radiant basalt]

10 hours,2 people loss🥲

[open vault]

The creators died out.

LONG AGO

How many times should I mention it?

'small marketing expense'
Why have I been talking for so long? is this about hackathon "Not going well"? This is a Live or Death to creator community's life, the matter of honor. How dare you can say like that?
How many times should I bare with you? I have been keep telling you to stay inside your great web 3 boundary. Is it so hard?

The team is simply not respecting the community NOR communicates with creators. They only 'speak' they care, and what they build always frustrates creators. That's the simple and easy keypoint.

[keen quail]

The problem is that the team's strategic focus has shifted away from creator development.

But they still care about the benefits of existing creators

[open vault]

Can you?

Care? LOL. Care is not done by spoken words. It is done by actions.

[open vault]

Care?

[keen quail]

When it is impossible to attract new creators, shouldn’t we make improvements in the direction of attracting users?

[open vault]

Care?

[open vault]

Great, now you are speaking to give up creators. Why can't you just speak like that?

[keen quail]

Why did the AIpp system add random recommendation rewards and top 10 dividends instead of top 3 dividends? Why does it add engagement rankings?

[paper jewel]

I think it may be that they lack manpower and can only focus on some issues. If there are sufficient resources, the development of web2 and web3 will not conflict.

[open vault]

Impossible
I have been here for 6 months and I have seen so many chances.
And 6 months ago, the creator community was actually good. Isn't that awesome? Can you imagine it?

[keen quail]

From the system changes, it seems that creators have not been abandoned

[open vault]

Is your brain washed away with money?
Why are you thinking incentives will drive all people?

To be honest, it is not much incentives too LOL

it's like a small small pie in a small pot. I will go for part time job

Again. Why can't you just stay in your area?

Did I not appreciate your area of work? I always have appreciated what you have built and what you have done. Why can't you just show some respect?

[keen quail]

I see that many inactive creators are indeed multitasking (participating in multiple AI platforms), and nothing you do will help

[whole crown]

I don't think so, there are many talanted people in the myshell team, and there have been good improvements in the past. I am sure myshell has enough workpower for making a nice place for everyone.

[open vault]

Should I go and calculate how much "Damn incentive" a new creator possibly would get by "Learning all the pro config" and "Buying the creator pass"?

Nothing I do will help, Yes. Since the team determines the direction to respect creators or not. To get rid of new creations, or continuously add values to their own platform.

That's the reason I am speaking so harsh here. Is it that hard to understand?
Just respect us. Is it that hard?

Again, do you think I am whining for handful of points?
Sorry, but I already have enough $Shell. It's better for me to have higher value of $Shell than farm more $Shell.
I am thinking about the sustainability of the community, and the healthy community where people keep on contributing to the project and love the project.

[keen quail]

I respect web2 creators, but I don't understand why you have so many opinions. You don't have the full picture information like the team, they have to face more.

[open vault]

If you don't understand then go up and read all my chats and creators' chats.

You still don't get it? It's not my problem. It's whole creators' problem including ones who are long gone. I am one of few creators remaining.

[keen quail]

I don't know who others will think is the disrespectful party when they see the chat records.
I have read the chat records, and your core point is that the current mechanism cannot attract and retain excellent creators in the long run.

[open vault]

[whole crown]

"Why do you have so many opinions" is one of the craziest things i read today

[open vault]

[glass imp]

I hope creators can express their opinions freely in this channel.

[open vault]

I doubt you had really read anything

[open vault]

[whole crown]

What are they gonna do, throw ika and others out

That would just show what the team really thinks about us.

[open vault]

They will not\

they still need some 'Fancy apps' displayed in the main page

...to get more valued on $Shell

[radiant basalt]

[open vault]

And me too, I am not gonna destroy 'Fancy apps', as I told I already invested so much on this, and farmed too much $Shell to get out of this....

We could curse and tell all the bad things, but we can't harm each other...

[whole crown]

Yeah, we are too valuable to them, but they still decide to not respect us

[open vault]

But I don't think I will make the next bot.

[keen quail]

Which apps are considered "killer apps"?

[open vault]

Ask yourself

[glass imp]

I don't really know what the team are focusing actually. I can see the biggest change is the new point carnival and the AIpp store. People come here to buy coins with BNB. Less people are thinking about using chatbots. The community is less active in total..

[whole crown]

The good ones, duh

[keen quail]

I usually just use my own bot

[keen quail]

If there is no demand, you really don’t need to write the next bot

[open vault]

Can you...

Do you know what empathy means?

[keen quail]

There were many mediocre bots in the last incubator, so the team chose to incubate them themselves.

[open vault]

Yes, and be the mediocre platform

Great

I really hope you to just...

[paper jewel]

The user's freshness to the bot decreases quickly, and the retention rate is low, so more new users are needed. Currently, the user growth is too slow.

[whole crown]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-gif-25961554

[keen quail]

If there is no demand for bots, they can optimize and promote themselves. Top creators have previously reaped too much platform dividends I think

[whole crown]

Me rn

[open vault]

can you please

just...

[whole crown]

Refer to my previous message

[open vault]

not open your mouth on non-professional area?

[open vault]

Please?

Just...

Be quiet?

[whole crown]

What is that

[open vault]

spent 500$ + 500$(promo code) on google ads to promote my bot

soso result, not really effective

[whole crown]

Oh, damn..

[radiant basalt]

This is a screenshot of the Google Ads interface in Korean. It shows the dashboard where users can manage their advertising campaigns.

The key elements visible in the screenshot include:

1. Campaign Overview: The main section displays information about the campaigns, such as their status, budget, and performance metrics.
2. Navigation Menu: On the left side, there is a navigation menu with options like "Campaigns," "Ad groups," "Ads," "Assets," and other tools.
3. Status Notification: At the top, there is a notification indicating that there are no active ads and that the campaign or ad group is paused or deleted.
4. Campaign Details: Specific details of a campaign named "Campaign #1" are visible, including its daily budget of 30,000 KRW and its status as paused due to policy restrictions.

If you need further assistance with Google Ads or have specific questions, feel free to ask!

[open vault]

Did you know that Character.ai had 0.2b MAU?
Also, my bot had enough numbers of real users even before on the tasks?
Also, did you know that my bots were always used as a "Good result sample" for Pro config mode?

[whole crown]

Oh yeah, ai can do that, forgor

[open vault]

"Just bring up some mediocre bots" is it ever possible to speak like that?

I mean, even for the platform itself's value.

I have the data that my bot actually lures "Real users" (non-farmers) from outside.

Is it... that hard to understand the value of creator community?

[keen quail]

Can you post your dashboard so that everyone can see the data of the star AI bot? I can't understand it.

[open vault]

[whole crown]

8/10 ragebait

[stoic orchid]

In general, I read your discussions in the background. Everyone has their own valid points. Do you want to know the only thing I want right now? Someone who enjoys creating AI bots and is good at it should volunteer to teach how to create a bot from scratch in simple steps on a social platform like Discord, Twitch, or similar. The simplest way is to first have people generate ideas, then gather materials related to their idea, and finally integrate this into their bot with or without code. We should instill the creation of AI bots in people with steps like these and make it a passion. Currently, we have very successful bot creators on this platform (those who do it with passion and without profit). By finding common ground, I am sure we will find the right path. I think there must be someone among you who can start such broadcasts to encourage those who are eager and passionate about making bots.

[radiant basalt]

😬

[open vault]

This is why I hate this

[whole crown]

9/10 ragebait

[open vault]

The points are up here, not with Script and me.

@stoic orchid

They are just blurring the F------ point

[stoic orchid]

It's not about you anyway. This is something I generally think about. There is a lot of unnecessary bot clutter. The number of fun and passionate bots is very few

Most people have trouble integrating their beautiful ideas into bots or they leave them unfinished.

[open vault]

Anyways, I have devoted enough for this platform why should creators be the teacher for the platform now?
I actually discussed it with one of the team member before. They told that "Reputation" and "Your fans" will be the reward.

I told them, I don't think so. And I declined the deal.

Know what? In old times, there was a community where people needed me. And what did I do?

https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1206907500524478524
Sharing for free. Lots of people at the time did it.

That's the power of community.

[stoic orchid]

You are right in what you said, but right now, the only people I can trust are you.

[open vault]

Now what? No people to even teach.

[stoic orchid]

Im sorry that things have come this far. You are a very, very beloved educator and bot creator..

[open vault]

And even being told "Lots of mediocre bots waiting to substitute you" by a person great

I see people telling "If he does not like the platform, he should leave it" XD so funny

very true I am also thinking about it

[whole crown]

wdym?

[open vault]

literally

Total hopeless

Frustrating, Shameless, Dead end

for true bot loving creators

[stoic orchid]

My personal opinion is that losing you would sadden me. I hope you reconsider your decision in more detail and I wish for the things you advocate to come to fruition soon

[open vault]

not for the web 3 people

[fallow snow]

😵‍💫

[open vault]

"MySheii"

NikuNiku: Initially, a fake official account appeared, but the official response was simply to announce that they had never issued an official AIPP, without directly stopping the fake account. Later, the official side said that they had issued an AIPP and that the AIPP belonged to them. Then, the official side again announced that they had never issued any official AIPP.
In this situation, they had no choice but to acknowledge the second fake official account involved in another project. The account seems to have been dead for a long time.
So I deeply believe that there will be no problem and that it will eventually pump.

Great

How shameless to talk in front of AI lovers that 'MySheii' guy

[alpine flower]

Wow my brain hurts.
165 messages to read.

I was only gone 40 min

[open vault]

Summarize it, GPT-chan

[radiant basalt]

creator channel is flooded

[open vault]

it's truly flooded

but it has been to dry recently

[alpine flower]

How?

[open vault]

Mention me for any other things, I will be off now. See you tomorrow

[open vault]

Ctrl-CV and paste it to Claude 3.5 Sonnet

it has wider context

[alpine flower]

Ok

Thanks

[torpid spade]

maybe the real treasure was the friends we made along the way

[fallow snow]

🤔

[alpine flower]

I really never expected to get 2 cents out of this.

I only do it becausei want to use my bots and learn more about ai / bots.

I've accomplished that to a degree, but it was so much fun at the beginning.

Now I have a bot worth $8.30

So really I got more than expected.

[nocturne horizon]

I think I need to translate it myself.🤣

It all started with the appearance of SHELLO's AIPP, and then the creator altered the information, pretending to be the MYSHELL official.

The official response was to announce in the general channel that 'the official has not issued any AIPP,' and that was it, rather than directly confronting the person impersonating the official. This made people feel that this person was someone the official couldn't deal with.

In the second round, the author of SHELLO released a message saying that they had transferred the ownership of SHELLO to the MYSHELL official.

Then, the official's response was again the same, announcing in the general channel that 'the official has not acquired ownership of any AIPP,' and that was it, rather than directly confronting the person spreading false information. This once again made people feel that this person was someone the official couldn't handle.

Because in any project, impersonating the official, and doing so more than once, would have resulted in the account disappearing long ago.

[alpine flower]

For myself it was abandoning of the creative community and how studios were ignored to death.

[glass imp]

which AI did you use for the translation? It delivers really well

[nocturne horizon]

claude 3.5, and i modify...

[radiant spire]

exactly

[keen quail]

This is just hype, trying to attract some Twitter meme users, and doing some edge testing before large-scale users come in. I have changed my name, why do people always try to hold on to it, didn't Ika change his name to MyShell?

[radiant spire]

dude stop justifying scam and fraud

"meme" "hype" whatever other weasel words

[keen quail]

web3 is full of scams, it’s not too much for us

[radiant spire]

and they should be flagged as such

just like if you delist your bot

but the team obviously protects certain people and this will be their downfall

you will see when the bubble bursts

can I delist a bot and say it was "for memes" too? why do I get flagged as a scammer?

it was for MEMES dude!!!

[whole crown]

ika did it to point out the issue, not to use it for your own gain

[keen quail]

The system looked a lot like another popular meme distribution platform pumpfun, so I launched Shello. I knew the bot was useless, but my instinct told me to launch it.

[whole crown]

tells a lot about you, please go back to chinese channel to spew your crap

[keen quail]

Next, I contacted two meme KOLs, and they used the product but had no interest in it.

[radiant spire]

ok

still doesn't explain why it's not flagged as a scamming bot

[keen quail]

The next system changes are completely for creators. I know the team's intention, so I completely gave up the meme direction.

[radiant spire]

does it?

[keen quail]

I have a creator pass card, why can't I talk here?

[alpine flower]

Can you tell us the direction?

[stoic orchid]

Guys, please be mindful of our tone when speaking with each other. The team has already made a statement on this matter. Let's show respect and continue on our way.