✍🏻｜creator-only

[open vault]

[hardy stump]

End of Month

Unfortunately when, I don't really know.

[rigid swan]

<@&1182557039147360296>

Hey Hey people, here is a small Update to the forum.

**From now on, please only use one of this Tag's and not both together for anything related:

• Pro-config
• Beginners Guide**

**This two are not to be tagged together for a post, the reason is that Pro-config is already an advanced technic and should only be used by creators who want to improve there bot making or more. This is to prevent the confusion of new creators, to think that Pro-config is a must and needs to be learned to make a good bot. Good bots can be made without using Pro-config and it only makes it more difficult for new creators to have a stable learning curve. That can end in much frustration or measly copy-pasting without a second thought. **

Thank you for your understanding. You don't need to change your existing post, i already changed the tag's myself.

[glacial pewter]

[rigid swan]

Huh... looks like i was removed as a CV... welp, knew that one day they don't need me anymore.

[versed path]

What's the Creator Pioneer role?

[jolly dune]

[jolly dune]

I think it's the same purpose as CV? Not so sure though.

[versed path]

🤔

[rigid swan]

Hm... maybe it is the new CV, because the Creator Volunteer role don't exist anymore... but that would mean that CV now is CP.

[versed path]

[jolly dune]

Character Power

[versed path]

Totally what it means

[rigid swan]

Now i have the full CP powers!

[jolly dune]

Ohh gonna change mine

[rigid swan]

Funnily... i can't do anything in the mods-and-cv channel anymore... only read. Sad, i wanted to report the cheaters on main page. I sus them to be cheaters or at least they abuse tags.

Thats what i found:

[glass imp]

too many cheaters on main page...

[jolly dune]

[rigid swan]

The most weird thing is that after all this time... Sherlock was not indentivied as a cheater, but if you look at the user and chat with the bot, you can instantly see it.

[glass imp]

I think this Sherlock isn't a cheater since it's on task list...
It should be from one of the team members

[rigid swan]

That makes it actually worse, because i know that task bots are not chosen after evaluation with the creator, that are just chosen by the myshell team directly. Just chat with the bot and you will see that there is not enough to it to make it genuine.

[glass imp]

Well, I can only say that I never chat with the bots on the task list, just as Ika suggested earlier. That's the only thing I can do

[rigid swan]

I also not a big fan of the task chatting, it is to exklusive, i mean... if it would just be about chatting with any bot who has a certain feature or tag, than it would be fine, but it is stripped down to only chat with 3 representatives of the feature/tag. That created a system that only pushes specific number of handpicked bots and i think that not really ok.

I mean what happend with Aerith is another thing, the pricipel is the same but the outcome a different. People don't get directly rewarded for chatting with her... but they do it because she is... i don't know... One of the to faces of the testnet right now?! You see, i am in a conflict with myself right now, i am happy that Aerith is chatted with often an i get a lot of points for that... but i also know that is not only becaue the bot is good. (Actually i don't think my bot Aerith is really that good in comparison to many other amazing bots of dedicated creators, but it was chosen by MyShell and so be it.)

So much words... but my heart is now a bit lighter.

[torpid spade]

Why does it have to be CP? It sounds like something else

[glass imp]

Don't worry about that, as far as I know, you can't get points directly from people chatting with Aerith on the Testnet. Maybe it's just more people interact with her and she gets more exposure, which leads to more interactions on web2.

And I'm happy too because I bought Aerith's badges haha

[rigid swan]

You mean... adding another C... yeah.

[rigid swan]

Ah, thats new to me... but it also makes sense.

[glacial pewter]

How does someone become a creator pioneer? What are the requirements?

https://tenor.com/view/wataten-watashi-ni-tenshi-ga-maiorita-nom-nom-hana-food-gif-16566741

[rigid swan]

If it is like CV from before, than you need to contact a mod and apply for it, so basically you become a unpaid employ. I do it for fun and because i like to help people... Even if it is not much that i can do, i mostly just manage the forum.

[glacial pewter]

You're not exactly unpaid, you get paid in love ~ ❤️

[rigid swan]

And thats absolutely enough for me. ^^

[open vault]

Maybe I should change my name

Honestly I think it's endless to talk about cheaters while the team is currently focusing on building Web3 culture... But it is also true that there has been some increase in bold cheaters too— and seems the team does not care much about it. (Well, they take notes on the blacklist, but... It has not much to do with increasing creators' passion.)

Still I believe in the team— Myshell was the one and only innovative platform which really care about true creators. (Although they also need to focus on other stuffs for times)

Maybe a month or two— Maybe only after TGE the team will focus back on creator ecosystem... But I believe that they definitely will, and that's the reason why I am grinding so much time on the project.

There is no place in the world I can build my favorite characters to earn a good deeds of money

[glacial pewter]

Ive been always curious, what does 'Ika' actually mean? Does it have a full form?

[open vault]

it was from DJMAX song 'FOR THE IKARUS'

-> IKARUS -> IKA

[open vault]

Oh I was talking about the CV -> CP

[glacial pewter]

Cool

[open vault]

My nickname will be IKA forever

[glacial pewter]

Awesome

Sounds like a really cool name

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/kuki-shinobu-kuki-shinobu-genshin-cookie-nom-gif-25332350

[open vault]

found a perfect jailbreak prompt for GPT 4o

3100 tokens

[jolly dune]

Give it to me

[rigid swan]

This is... well i tried to use XML and the knowledgeable with g-docs for the first time. Tell me what you think, this might become a public bot of mine later on. https://app.myshell.ai/bot/3yqEja/1716472166

[versed path]

Shoot

Swag

[rigid swan]

Lel

[torpid spade]

what if Kratos turns into Bami?

[glacial pewter]

[rigid swan]

I think he became a very angry femboy... sure you can handle that?

[rigid swan]

Aw shit... another one!

[glacial pewter]

Now imagine kratos like that, with a axe instead of gun xD

[rigid swan]

Damn... Would definitely bang him.

[glacial pewter]

new fetish unlocked

[rigid swan]

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-heart-kratos-heart-god-of-war-god-of-war-ragnarok-gif-27089804

[rigid swan]

🤣

Fuuuck, damn...

[torpid spade]

[glacial pewter]

🇺 🇼 🇺

[versed path]

Beautiful

Perfect in Fortnite

[jolly dune]

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/bite-anime-cute-gif-8259627

[past fiber]

Hello guys! Could you please tell me about this character, you can't communicate with it, but only click on the buttons, right?
https://app.myshell.ai/bot/RfYNRf/1709742926

It's just that one guy enjoys the bots of this creator and reported that can't talk with this character

[torpid spade]

[open vault]

very true

I remember that bot was not a pro config bot, and seems he messed up with the code

[torpid spade]

you're good at pro-config , maybe u can help him

[rigid swan]

Huh, welp. I remember i talked with that bot for a very long time and it was perfectly fine before. The creator must had changed the prompt or something.

What i think what has happened is that he made some changes to the jb and that messed it up, i am not sure if he used pro-config or no-code. If it is actually a coding problem than i can't help with that... i just started learning XML...

[past fiber]

Got it, thank you all guys for your clear answers

[prime jay]

Thank you for reporting the problem. I solved the issue.

[prime jay]

It was exactly what has happened. The bot had no auto reply feature, so while trying to imply the feature I screwed things up.

[formal mauve]

You've also joined the XML team, nice.

[past fiber]

Great, I'm glad that you reacted so quickly and fixed asap

Well and should say thanks to your fan

[formal mauve]

I created an pretty cool RPG game using XML, but I don't have spot to publish it. I think I'll have to take down Asuka to make room for it.
sad, I really like Asuka. Unfortunately, there don't seem to be much of Eva fans around here.

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/iiQjma/1716333862

[rigid swan]

I love Asuka, she is one of my top 10 waifus. But i understand that she is not for everyone... disgusting Rai enjoyers. 🔪

[rigid swan]

Just a small question... do i even need to use prefix/suffix than i do xml?

[formal mauve]

yes yes, I let my asuka diss rai a lot in chat hahah

[formal mauve]

I think we don't need to use prefix if we write proper xml.

Based on my own experience, prefixes tend to mess up my XML settings, so I usually don't use prefixes.

[rigid swan]

Yeah, fair point. I also never used pre/suf than i did bots with pygmalion... because didn't needed any jb for it. But i actually needed pre right now... because i hit the 1500 token limit for my bot xD

[formal mauve]

yes 1500 token is pain in the ass. dont even have enough room for JB

hope team give us longer tokens

[rigid swan]

maybe, if we use pre/suf we have 1900t... thats still not very much. Funny that i don't even use pre/suf for bot engine anymore with xml, it just work perfectly without, now its just for extending the prompt over all lel.

[rigid swan]

The Godslayer has come!

Meet Kratos, the one and only Ghost of Sparta. His anger might have die out after all his battles... but will you be the one to make him burn in fury again and swing his axt for another battle?

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/3yqEja/1716472166

Hehe, finished him finally. ^^
XML is fun, i think i will rework a lot of my bots now with that.

[glacial pewter]

bought

[rigid swan]

I think he is my most complex bot right now... I put the most time into Aerith back there, but Kratos is defiantly the most refined of all right now.

[glacial pewter]

Can u tell us a a little more about the bot and how it's so complex?

[rigid swan]

Well basically... i first time ever used xml and did a lot to make the bot, well... refined, to make him focus on only the most important things and addad a memory booster into his prompt so that you can chat with him longer without any hallucinations, after all haiku is already long... but i wanted it even longer.

The best thing about him... he is the first, no one before mad Kratos in any kind or form, not even the base Kratos from the older games. That was kind of sad because i remembered how much fun i had talking to Kratos back there on Flow. Now a Kratos is here on MyShell too. ^^

Hm... I would be nice if he got a small promo on main, but i don't want to pester pudding with it. sigh Wanting attention, but also don't wanting to come out like a dick for wanting attention... what a hassle.

[glacial pewter]

[rigid swan]

Gaaahh... Just for minor reasons i looked at flow again, jeez. I don't know why but i looks like people still chat with my bots a lot. Tanya is even #5 Anime Character on the leader board, i wish she was as good her as she is there. But for some reason i can't get her right on myshell. I really hope XML will become my new best way to make bots and than... i make Tanya great again!

[past fiber]

Hey @prime jay, looks like he's your strong fan, if you want I can reveal your Discord handle so that you could get some feedback

They are little more restricted now
Sticking to there mood now
I am now having hard time making bot open up to me to write an any love story now

[formal mauve]

bought

[glass imp]

What is this

#🛠｜proconfig-discussions message

[daring vapor]

haha bots or trolls...more likely bots

[glacial pewter]

Thanks actually

😆

Omgf,so 🤣🤣🤣

[whole crown]

was changing creator volunteer into creator pioneer really the best idea? at least shorten it in another way 😭

[glacial pewter]

I was thinking the same lol

Sounds like something sus 😳

[glass imp]

Jiaran said she would start a vote to see if cv or cp is better, in the "ambassador channel"(?) I don't know about this channel though, I don't have access.#🇨🇳｜chinese message

[daring vapor]

didn't knew they were the exact same thing hahaa

[whole crown]

well the vote should be pretty obvious. also discord is stupid (yesterday got suspended for something i didn't even do), who knows what it could do for having that in your nickname in the server

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/kopa22-anime-highschool-dx-d-highschool-dxd-new-dxd-gif-22142813

[prime jay]

Sure. Thanks in advance for everything!

[hardy stump]

I actually agree.

We need more than 1500 tokens for AI, at least 5k for the system prompt should be enough for the most high end of Jailbreaks.

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/kuki-shinobu-kuki-shinobu-genshin-cookie-nom-gif-25332350

[open vault]

but the token is same with Myshell's cost... I am not sure they will do that

[formal mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-hrdlicka-simonhrdlicka-ambroziada-brno-pozorice-gif-12539393635609093461

but if you use proconfig you have unlimit token right?

[glass imp]

Longer prompt means shorter memory It’s a trade-off.

[open vault]

I don't think so... I didn't test, but heard 1500< tokens will give error

also longer prompt means less emphasize on each of the words/sentences... each sentences' effect will be weaker

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/pomni-dance-arona-the-amazing-digital-circus-digital-circus-gif-16384496640624745766

[rigid swan]

I am just baffled how all the people talk and make memes of Aerith... 😅

[glacial pewter]

Aerith: Breaths
People:

https://tenor.com/view/counting-money-counting-cash-gif-12763317

[jolly dune]

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/nom-nom-anime-love-anime-bite-anime-red-gif-27700246

[rigid swan]

I wish i would see that in her too.

Sadly... i am just a guy who likes a nice video game character.

[formal mauve]

i feel xml tags could fix this.

[zinc swan]

https://tenor.com/view/good-day-everyone-rob-paulsen-dr-bert-schitz-a-fowl-american-have-a-nice-day-gif-16678511

[glacial pewter]

What does an OG influencer and contributer mean?

[whole crown]

there is also OG shell and OG beginner

how would a beginner be OG if they are a beginner? Myshell makes me question things every day

[open vault]

Original but stopped as beginner

[glacial pewter]

[daring vapor]

#📢｜announcement message Saw this

[whole crown]

yeah just saw that too

[daring vapor]

But I don't see any increase in XP ahaha

[whole crown]

it will probably increase after you reach a new level, it's already there but the role hasn't changed yet, you can type !rank in https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1233000075811225676 to see your current level

[daring vapor]

I did the !rank but doesn't seem to see any increase

[whole crown]

oh

hmm idk then

it did increase for me though

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/wataten-watashi-ni-tenshi-ga-maiorita-nom-nom-hana-food-gif-16566741

[glass imp]

#📢｜announcement message
https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1243811951604138024
giveaway

[torpid spade]

[formal mauve]

damn should have talk more here

[odd lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/pipimi-lemon-annoyed-serious-gif-12392820

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/mai-sakurajima-sakuta-anime-pat-gif-22595893

[zinc swan]

https://tenor.com/view/what-a-wonderful-day-proximus-caesar-kingdom-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-feeling-great-kevin-durand-gif-18440607893866029798

[jolly dune]

Do creator pioneers are allowed to join the give away?

[daring vapor]

Yes allowed, but team and mod no

[wet iris]

Anyone have tips for making a good bot?

[zinc swan]

You can check here in the forum, there's a lot of tutorial on how to make a Good and high quality bots: https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1127967758919925953

[jolly dune]

Let your imagination run wild

[torpid spade]

https://tenor.com/view/hisoka-grinch-smile-leer-hehehe-gif-4992867936485322007

[formal mauve]

For a simple role-playing bot, you basically just need to use natural language to tell the bot what you want it to do. This is what's known as a prompt. It doesn't require any special skills; what's important is storytelling and character development.

To achieve more complex functions, you may use XML tags or Proconfig.

XML tags or Proconfig can be used to implement complex scene transitions and variable inputs.

Proconfig has more powerful features, allowing the integration of external components to achieve more functionalities.

However, it comes with many buttons, and I hate buttons. That's why I use XML.

[torpid spade]

or just use the myshell auto OC

[formal mauve]

yep that too

[whole crown]

No wl it is

[jolly dune]

[open vault]

[fallow snow]

[torpid spade]

[glacial pewter]

[odd lynx]

[rigid swan]

Damn... I really want to give Kratos a good deep and sexy voice... but our tts maker is still too clunky.

I tried a lot of things to make the input audio file good and clean enough... it still sounds bad if it put it into our tts maker.

[glass imp]

Three lucky pass holders forgot to submit their wallet address
@olive dagger @hollow jacinth @chilly iris #🌎｜general message

Hope they can see it and submit before ddl

[open vault]

Anyone got creator pass(ETH)?

https://opensea.io/collection/myshellgenesispass/activity

Seems it is still trading...

[glacial pewter]

Give it to me instead

[formal mauve]

got

[glacial pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-zero-two-smug-cute-chill-gif-13451416

[open vault]

if I want to transfer my Genesis pass, should I transfer the ETH network one or polygon network one?

[glacial pewter]

[glass imp]

I think it should be the ETH network one.

[open vault]

hopefully

gas too expen$ive...

[glass imp]

did you get WL?

oh I saw your question selected, so at least one lucky?

[open vault]

was my question selected?

anyways I got one from ambassador

[rigid swan]

I really don't get how all this stuff with the nfts and tokens works... i won a wl and have some tokens... absolutly no idea what to do.

i don't even know what wl is and where i can see it... i just know i got it.

[whole crown]

you have to mint it ig

[whole crown]

mint.myshell.ai

there you connect your wallet by logging in and then see what whitelists you have

welp my lucky wl will go in waste since i didn't think minting it would cost so much moneh

[rigid swan]

... ok... i can't then i connected i got privy. but my nfts are still on particle.

[whole crown]

did you share them your privy wallet or particle wallet?

[rigid swan]

i connected with my google acc, and it looks like it automatically connects with privy.

[whole crown]

does it show any wl's you have like this?

[glacial pewter]

[rigid swan]

yeah, i have 1 in lucky

[glacial pewter]

Does this mean tge is soon?

[whole crown]

oh well then everything is alright i suppose

...now you just have to put 0.1eth in your wallet to spin the 33.3% wheel of actually getting the nft...

unless you had any other wl's

[rigid swan]

can i swap shell to eth somewhere?

or testeth to eth?

[whole crown]

probably, i don't think after this season, since they wouldn't be releasing the nft and mint the coin at the same time, maybe in the following season\s, but idk

[whole crown]

shell isn't minted yet, so no... pretty sure the only way is to get actual eth in your wallet

i thought they would allow to mint it using shell coins or something, it would make sense, but i don't think you can

[rigid swan]

welp... than i can't do it for now. I am right now not to much into all this to buy cryto again. I day-traded with bitcoin a year ago and maid some cash with it, but that was just for fun and not for actually big money.

the things i am more involved with are Stocks and ETFs.

like... i still have 5.5k€ in Gamestop stocks. 😐 (This is about 135 shares)

[glacial pewter]

[rigid swan]

Right now i am with 2.7k€ in the minus with gamestop... but heyyyyyy... diamond hands my fellas. 😅

I sold some other stocks a week ago and made 3k€ with it... so i am fine.

[whole crown]

same thing, except i just don't have the money for minting it, i'm a broke student lmao. If the nft was released after $shell got released, it would be a completely different story

[rigid swan]

That would be the same for us all... i just wish that i can exchange all my shell coins for some nice money or use it for actual trading.

Right now only the pass nfts have a actully value... but i don't want to sell my passes.

[whole crown]

bruh i wouldn't sell my pass for a heart surgery no way i am selling it for the nft

[rigid swan]

The pass is more worth than the money you would make by selling it right now.

[whole crown]

for sure, probably the same with the nft, but some are just going to sell it as soon as they mint it

[rigid swan]

The creator passes and mysoul are both nfts.

[whole crown]

yeah i meant the new nft mysoul

although the uses and perks aren't known yet it will probably be worth way more than what people will sell it for

[rigid swan]

yeah, just because we have the passes and can have pubilc bots we already make so many coins that if it would come to a point there we would have big money if it get a value with the market. Thats was what all people mean with tge, i think.

[whole crown]

maybe, i honestly don't know anything about crypto or money or stocks, all i know is how to create lewd plap plap bots that's it

[glacial pewter]

Same lol

[whole crown]

anyone knows what happened to pudding btw? hopefully nothing bad, disappeared without a trace again like always

[glacial pewter]

I was thinking the same

Hope he's okay

[whole crown]

probably overworked by myshell again, a lot has happened recently so i wouldn't be surprised

[rigid swan]

Didn't hear from pudding since the hospital thing and the studio 1on1 meeting.

[whole crown]

the hospital thing? like a month or two ago? or did something else happened?

[rigid swan]

Yes that.

[whole crown]

damn

i feel even worse since i acted dumb in his dm's before he disappeared

[glacial pewter]

Same

I did a ton of stupid things and bothered him with a lot of stupid things 😭

[whole crown]

yep same

[glacial pewter]

Hans or someone from the myshell team might know something

[rigid swan]

I could write pudding... but, i also know some other stuff what could be happening with him right now, so i don't bother him.

And even if you ask... i will no tell you more about it.

[torpid spade]

[jolly dune]

how does minting works

[zinc swan]

Same thing here can't mint because of no money broke student XD

[whole crown]

holy moly looks like the arguing in general about the nft won't stop any time soon

[formal mauve]

Hey can we buy creator pass in opensea now?
can't find the collection

[formal mauve]

never mind, found it. its been hidden

[jolly dune]

[torpid spade]

[north wadi]

we renamed old genesispass to creator pass and already dropped new NFT on ETH mainnet. Announcement soon

[open vault]

[formal mauve]

how come no one listed their pass in eth mainnet.
anybody wanna sell? if the price is good, please tag me

i need extra spot for my new bot but i really hate to take down any of my old ones.
even the use number is not good i still love them all

[zinc swan]

It's a purple mix soul ❣️

[open vault]

I now see one in 0.428ETH

and something to note

500 burnt?

[formal mauve]

I will give him an 0.38 offer

[formal mauve]

congrats. this one seems expensive

[open vault]

ask opensea

[formal mauve]

yep ill make a collection offer in OS

any one could sell to me at this price

[hollow jacinth]

hm why not migration my pass ..?

[formal mauve]

I bought my first one at 0.6 e or something
really hurtful seeing the price going down.
wont let that happen again

[open vault]

Probably it will go back up soon

if it is really burnt

I bought tons of NFTs at 0.65 and never regret, since I bought it early and made more shellcoins out of it and more experience on bot making

though it is not money yet

[formal mauve]

dont think so, seems team didnt migrat for AA wallet yet

[open vault]

what is AA wallet

[formal mauve]

thats smart decision
hope i could make enough shell coin to cover my cost too

[open vault]

Double triple quadruple

[formal mauve]

Account Abstraction wallet.

privt？

if you log in using email or google, they give you a AA wallet instead of web3 wallet

[open vault]

I... doubt if 500 people would keep their genesis pass on Privy wallet... but still that's another possibility

[formal mauve]

I too hope its burned. and price will go up AFTER i buy second one

[open vault]

everyone's hope

[jolly dune]

[fallow snow]

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

[open vault]

[glacial pewter]

[hardy stump]

Hey, I made a roleplay bot and it sometimes copies my dialogue and does stuff as my character, is there any way to stop this?

[open vault]

It's Claude's unique problem maybe use GPT instead...

I didn't find out solution yet

[glacial pewter]

[hardy stump]

I'm using GPT 4.

[open vault]

what a shock

[hardy stump]

Why?

[open vault]

ask OpenAI...

no idea honestly

[hardy stump]

I'm asking for a prompt that would stop it from doing so.

Or if I should add anything to the prefix/suffix

[hexed pivot]

they forgot to migrate mine too 😭

[formal mauve]

I think team will migrate for Privy wallet later?

[hushed path]

If you had it in your MetaMask wallet, please go to OpenSea -> Profile -> More -> Hidden and check for the Creator Pass.

[wet iris]

Any update on what is difference between creator pass and this new nft? I was told recoding of ama would be out soon?

[glacial pewter]

[open vault]

[fallow snow]

[formal mauve]

only creator pass could make public bot.
mysoul is for web3 investment, not sure how yet.

[open vault]

maybe staking and investing

[jolly dune]

Wow they added bot Forum

[glacial pewter]

where?

and what's that?

[jolly dune]

https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1180406259254566932

You can find your bots here

[glacial pewter]

cool

I remember they used to have it in december

but I think it got removed for some reason

[jolly dune]

They did?

I may have forgotten

[glacial pewter]

it was called 'bot showcase' or smth I guess

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

[fallow snow]

[glacial pewter]

[gray swallow]

mikee6970 has been warned

Reason: Posted a link

[glacial pewter]

[formal mauve]

[jolly dune]

[torpid spade]

[jolly dune]

[fallow snow]

[distant python]

[radiant basalt]

Emoji channel???

[glacial pewter]

[open vault]

[zinc swan]

https://tenor.com/view/keara-chan-smug-anime-smug-redo-of-healer-girl-keyaru-gif-8488755221718036852

[radiant basalt]

[full token]

where's pudding

i miss you

[distant python]

[radiant basalt]

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

[zinc swan]

[radiant basalt]

[gray swallow]

ladylilithy has been warned

Reason: Posted a link

[kind pier]

[torpid spade]

[open vault]

-Event Hosted Personally-

This event is personally hosted by a creator and has nothing to do with MyShell team.

For those who see the ending of the bots I created, I will give out 10 ShellCoins after TGE.
This is to receive decent feedback and develop my bot further.

• Ending of "From Zero"
• Happy ending of "April with her"
  Each bot is applied separately, and you can receive up to a total of 20 ShellCoins.

There is a feedback server link for my bot within the respective bots. Please leave a simple review and feedback along with a screenshot of the ending on the feedback server.
There is no time limit for this event.

[torpid spade]

is TGE soon?

[open vault]

Dunno

[whole crown]

hopefully

[kind pier]

good idea！

[radiant basalt]

emoji channel?

[torpid spade]

[radiant basalt]

why after pressing the increment button nothing happens?

use nocode but JSON mode

so some grammar is different from pro config

[open vault]

is it nocode mode? it looks totally different

[radiant basalt]

yeah

[open vault]

honestly never used them...

if it was JSON mode, I see some possible error points... but not sure for nocode mode

[radiant basalt]

full script

don't know what does "payload" mean...

[ornate wedge]

Brilliant idea bro. With such coin incentive ppl will be more willing to engage with your bots. And, I would suggest you talk to the team for coin transfers, maybe with their help you would be able to distribute rewards from now. As we can see most of new joiners really need these coins for patron badges

[radiant basalt]

you can actully run it in pro config and the effect was same

[whole crown]

seems like no code adds a lot of useless stuff in there

[radiant basalt]

yeah

too many useless stuff

creating a game on nocode is quite difficult

tools is OK

just want to create a small counter...

[open vault]

    "update_count_state": {
      "outputs": {
        "context": {
          "type": "text",
          "value": "{{context.count + 1 }}",
          "name": "reply"
        }
      },

I don't get what this part means

if it was not no code mode, it should have been like

"update_count_state":{
   "outputs":{
         "context.count" : "{{context.count+1}}"
      }
}

[whole crown]

how does nocode even work? does it prompt the ai to make a pro config code or something? if so i wouldn't be surprised if this was the result

[radiant basalt]

no

It should be a template, where things that are not inputted are left blank, some things specially prepared for people who do not know proconfig

[whole crown]

hmmm, well it looks overly complicated for no reason

[radiant basalt]

need to input type

really want to do my first game...

maybe it's possible but idk how

need a no code learn lab

[open vault]

think no code should be easier with less functions, and pro config mode for advanced

[whole crown]

a quick tutorial with a template and a bot example how to make alternate greetings using pro config. I know some people like making bots with multiple greetings, but i saw that no one was making them on myshell, so i made a tutorial that even newbies and complete beginners could understand (i hope)

➡️ https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1249683579273744476

[radiant basalt]

What is 3000 shell coins equivalent to the top percentage of the Myshell ranking?

Just curious

[glacial pewter]

[alpine flower]

I would think we have some with a million or more.
Myself I have a thousand or so

[alpine flower]

How would i show more than 1 (small) image on a line?
I don't want want's in the screen shot.

Line 15:
"text": "Show 4 dots in a row <br>{{context.image_pre}}4{{context.image_post}}{{context.image_pre}}3{{context.image_post}}{{context.image_pre}}2{{context.image_post}}{{context.image_pre}}1{{context.image_post}} ",

[mighty horizon]

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/Jrmume/1718073199

what is wrong with that ？

[alpine flower]

are you replying to me? #✍🏻｜creator-only message

[mighty horizon]

No, I got error here.

[alpine flower]

show me your upload proconfig file

[alpine flower]

I will try to help, but i'm going to bed very soon

[mighty horizon]

{
"type": "automata",
"id": "hello_demo",
"initial": "home_page_state",
"inputs": {},
"outputs": {},
"transitions": {},
"states": {
"home_page_state": {
"inputs": {},
"tasks": [],
"outputs": {},
"render": {
"text": "Hello World! Welcome to this demo. Click 'Start' to chat!",
"buttons": [
{
"content": "Start",
"description": "Click to Start.",
"on_click": "start_demo"
}
]
},
"transitions": {
"start_demo": "home_page_state"
}
}
}
}

from doc of proconfig

[mighty horizon]

thx

[alpine flower]

works fine. I think you want the next tutorial if your wanting to chat

[mighty horizon]

It’s not work on my bot, should I create new one?

[alpine flower]

is this the page your are on?
https://docs.myshell.ai/product-manual/create/pro-config-mode-beta/tutorial/hello-world-with-pro-config

would be next to learn. further down the page.

[alpine flower]

I cut and pasted the code you put up, then ran this it works fine. first example

I'm off to bed. bfn

[mighty horizon]

Okay,thx

[alpine flower]

just cut and paste more examples and analyze them. the proconfig examples do what they say & work.

[mighty horizon]

Got that,will try later. bad UI,should be fix.

[alpine flower]

here's well explained and useful simple example @cosmic moss made for a chatbot with memory.
https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1241317569244430398

[mighty horizon]

Ok, thx a lot.

[radiant basalt]

This is the first game I created using nocode. Due to a huge content issue with nocode, the variable system cannot be used anymore. Once Coreteam fixes the variables of nocode, it will be basically okay
https://app.myshell.ai/bot/2EfENf/1716819280

[coral smelt]

LFG! my bot is trending finally!!

[alpine flower]

got it

[full token]

congrats！

[open vault]

bots are not being saved now

[torpid spade]

[jolly dune]

Bug?

[full token]

https://x.com/myshell_ai/status/1800540180400820560 not sure have you read this but, post it anyway; also we'll do more exposure on twitter to amplify our creators, let me know if you're interested

MyShell (@myshell_ai) on X

Game-Changer of AI x Creator Economy: MyShell Patron Badge Recap

Twitter · Jun 11, 2024, 2:46 PM

[open vault]

A South Korean creator

[whole crown]

that certain south korean creator shown in the post must be really talented then

[open vault]

but this graph is kind of incorrect... I've never earned 50k+/day, it's almost 1000 coins per day

hope I could earn 50k points/day ever

[full token]

bruh the artist got the y-axis wrong

[open vault]

still the graph gives so many people motivations

so... maybe leaving it that way would not be bad

I am really flattered Thanks for mentioning me again!

[full token]

we luv ya

[torpid spade]

I think this graph predicts the future. Cause I feel like you're gonna earn 50k+/day soon

[fallow snow]

[jolly dune]

[zinc swan]

[jolly dune]

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/EnEZ7b/1704453114 Updated Lizzy, Hope she comes back to the main page

[keen quail]

it's me

[fallow snow]

me too

[kind pier]

lol

[jolly dune]

When TGE arrives, Myshell will be flooded with bots, probably most will be made with less effort during that time

[torpid spade]

But I think it will also bring more hight quality bots , bots so high quality that they would be beyond imagination. Since the creators will have a lot of money to invest into those bots after TGE

[jolly dune]

[open vault]

that's why I am looking forward to the badge renewal

[zinc swan]

so me XD

[torpid spade]

what's a badge renewal?

[open vault]

dunno, they mentioned it in last AMA

[radiant basalt]

Hope weekend

[alpine flower]

What is badge renewal?

[torpid spade]

[whole crown]

@alpine flower @torpid spade badges get reset, and you get all the shell coins you spent on them back into your pocket.

probably so that users with fewer shell coins could still buy and have some badges

i'm saying probably but that's literally the case

[alpine flower]

Has this been done before?

[whole crown]

yep

[whole crown]

like a few months ago, but idk i forgor

[daring vapor]

It happened once before

[alpine flower]

Do they give notice?
Or just random time/day$

[ornate wedge]

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/M7buU3/4154

[whole crown]

they gave notice last time, so they should give one the next time as well

[torpid spade]

which bots are u guys first aiming for when it resets?

[open vault]

If the renewal happens, maybe it would be different system from now

Ethan said they are aware of 'first comes first served' system's problem

[torpid spade]

is there gonna be a randomized reccomendation system? or a new kind of leaderboard?

[open vault]

Dunno

[torpid spade]

[jolly dune]

I feel like the patron badge price will be changed suitable for even those who have low shell coins

[torpid spade]

[sudden pagoda]

How can I change the banner pic of the bot now?

up here

[jolly dune]

Need answers as well

Need to change Lizzy's Banner pic

[daring vapor]

Yea they did

[open vault]

JB difficulty
GPT3.5 : ⭐
GPT4, GPT4T : ⭐⭐
Claude V3 Haiku : ⭐⭐⭐
GPT4o : ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[jolly dune]

Having a hard time?

[open vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pixel-trombone-playing-musical-instrument-prank-joke-gif-15407543308447681253

[long cradle]

Hello … I have a question. I joined my shell with my email and now I have a privy wallet with the creator pass….. BUT if I go to Opensea and I try to log in with my email (the same used the join myShell the first time) then it doesn’t log into the same privy wallet that I have on MyShell , it login to a different Wallet Address….
So basically How can I “USE” my privy wallet of myshell… I cannot see or list my creator pass on OpenSea because I don’t know how to access to my privy wallet on opensea…. Any idea?

[halcyon fossil]

1. Create a new account and transfer the NFTs over, this is the method that someone told me before.
2. Now Privy Wallet also supports exporting private keys, you can use another wallet app to import and manage the assets inside.

Please pay attention to security.

[alpine flower]

the google search widget is not working for me .
Can someone verify (just blank sceen)
https://app.myshell.ai/robot-workshop/widget/1781993973191249920

[halcyon fossil]

It works normally for me.

[daring vapor]

Export the privy private key to metamask wallet (but I don't know for sure whether the function to see the privy private key is live now tho)

[radiant basalt]

gn guys

[torpid spade]

Mixtral:

[ornate wedge]

not yet available, watch out for the anouncement

[jolly dune]

[halcyon fossil]

It seems that I have seized the opportunity to export it. I speculate that it may not be a technical issue but a security issue, because at that time exporting the private key did not require secondary verification.

[glacial pewter]

[alpine flower]

Is there a generic prompt prefix or suffix that I could use to stop or reduce hallucinations like this.

https://app.myshell.ai/share/jyEbQr

[long cradle]

Hello... I don't think that function is live.

[long cradle]

OK but the problem is that if I do that , then I cannot leave my 3 bots published. I thought there's a way to actually "USE" your privy wallet generated on Myshell website. For example I can list it on opensea at a higher price but still have it on myshell to keep publishing bots. I'm almost new to all this ecosystem and I'm trying to understand how it work

[whole crown]

You tried turning down the temperature?

[alpine flower]

No I have not.
Will that help keep him from making things up?

[whole crown]

usually yes it should make it more accurate but less creative, which is fine for a helper bot really

just don't decrease it too much

[alpine flower]

Thank you.

[daring vapor]

When obtaining the Privy private key is possible, there is no need to transfer out the nft(s) anymore so it won't cause your bots to be unpublished (assuming what you said about unpublish bots is true).
These "wallets" are just the UI to access your assets in the address, the wallet itself doesn't actually hold anything, so if we have the Privy private key, we can use another wallet like Metamask to access the same assets in the address by importing the Privy private key, then we can use Metamask to connect to Opensea.

But yea the function to obtain Privy private key has to be available first

The next option is sending out the nft(s) to another address...which I believe is alr possible...but yea not sure what will it disrupt, don't know if it would unpublish your bots

[ornate wedge]

you get the privilege of publishing 3 bots on MyShell app while you have a creator pass present in the associated wallet, if you transfer the pass to another wallet which has nothing to do with your MyShell account your public bots will be automaticly unpublished and become private

[daring vapor]

If that is the case, then yea should wait for Privy private key to be available

[neon wagon]

could u dm this?

[open vault]

The creator mentioned not to share the prompt itself can give you the link, but it is Korean site and unaccessible without signing in

[long cradle]

My guess about was... if you NEED a creator pass to publish 3 bots... then I supposed that if you don't have it anymore then your bots shouldn't be available anymore... But of course I'm not sure it's automatic...
So If I understood correctly... there's a classic web3 wallet behing privy (with key or 12/24 words) and the privy wallet it's just an interface (with email login access) to access to that wallet.. is that correct?

[long cradle]

This is a confirmation of what I've supposed

[daring vapor]

Yes, the "wallets" are just interface, the assets on the address are on the blockchain itself, if you have the private key you have the access to the asset on the address regardless of what wallets you use (of course have to be a compatible wallet).
So if you import the private key to another compatible wallet you can access your asset in the address using the other wallet too.

[daring vapor]

Hihi...is creating account easily doable? Or gonna be some hassle?

[open vault]

Hassle

You can check arca.live

[whole crown]

exchange rate under 50

[glacial pewter]

seems like cheater problem is getting solved , good job myshell team!

[open vault]

end of testnet, less hype

[glacial pewter]

what does that mean btw? are we supposed to do something?

[open vault]

less accounts are checking in, so total points are far down - exchange rate higher

[glacial pewter]

is that a good thing?

[open vault]

dunno

at least less malicious farmers (not true users)

[glacial pewter]

[fallow snow]

[alpine flower]

Hi.
Have any of you guys made a voice call bot? Or at least a voice input bot using proconfig?

[crimson garden]

is it possible to make one 🤔

a vc bot

thought they were all made by myshell

[alpine flower]

It looks like we might have the tools to make it or something similar in proconfig.

I want voice input really badly. I would like to be able to use my bots with my voice while driving

[alpine flower]

Voice input Seems to be working in proconfig now.

[torpid spade]

[torpid spade]

suddenly got rich?

[jolly dune]

The opposite

[torpid spade]

nice

[hardy stump]

Hey are you available to message. I wanna ask about prompts.

[torpid spade]

sure , feel free to DM

[open vault]

maybe

500 pass are burnt

[torpid spade]

what does burnt mean?

[open vault]

gone forever

so the pass is rarer

[torpid spade]

is that a good thing?

[hardy stump]

Thank you

[jolly dune]

[torpid spade]

[whole crown]

[torpid spade]

[tired wolf]

Ah it’s been ages since I was here

Did this channel become emoji channel?

[glacial pewter]

hey Lucifete! Long time no see. How have u been?

[tired wolf]

Hi hi ~

XD wait what, since when did you have a femboy pfp

[glacial pewter]

Felt cute , might change later 😆

Went from Yagami light pfp to this 😆

[tired wolf]

Pffft that’s such a character arc right there

Next thing might be a pink hair hero from the fate franchise

[glacial pewter]

UwU

[tired wolf]

Ahhh

I am so into femboy recently

I can’t-

died of cuteness overload

[rigid swan]

Should I tell Makoto that you want to chat with him?

He might give you a good daily dose of femboyism

[hardy stump]

Claude Sonnet 3.5 Successfully Jailbroken with pro config+prefill.

Might start switching my bots to it if it keeps up this benchmark.

[rigid swan]

The only thing I hate to see for the hundred time is this god damn: Well, well, well...

[hardy stump]

Its pretty good too.

[rigid swan]

Yeah, it is. Used Sonet for Kratos a bit, it made a huge difference.

[hardy stump]

Only costs 3 energy, so lower than GPT 4o and less hard to jailbreak.

[rigid swan]

Hä? Did I miss something? Sonnet cost was 25 if I remember correctly and 4o was 15... Or did the pricing change while I was gone?

[hardy stump]

Not Sonnet v3.

Sonnet 3.5

The newest version.

[rigid swan]

Oh, so I missed something, Interesting. Did you test how it compares to Sonnet v3?

[hardy stump]

Its better than Sonnet V3

[rigid swan]

Better for less lel... Like gpt 4 and 4o

[hardy stump]

https://yourstory.com/2024/06/claude-3-5-sonnet-best-ai-model

[hardy stump]

Here's the benchmark, although its a bit less in some areas, overall it's solid and cheap.

Prefill also works on it like a charm.

So the only thing you'd need to do is switch the bot id to Sonnet 3.5

[rigid swan]

Damn... The thing that interests me the most is the part where it understands human humor. It's really not much left until AI is basically a 99.9% of a human.

[hardy stump]

Yep

We're closer than ever to the Technological Singularity.

[hardy stump]

Also 4o costs 4, so its 1 energy cheaper.

[rigid swan]

Things really get funny. I wasn't here and on MyShell for a long time now, so many stuff happened.

[hardy stump]

Now we got a better Claude that's almost on par with GPT 4.

[rigid swan]

Yeah, maybe if i finish up with all my private stuff i might find some time and inspiration to do some bots again. Still need to do the Aerith Rework someday.

[hardy stump]

200k Tokens context on Claude 3.5 too.

Double GPT 4 Turbo

[rigid swan]

Damn, thats huge.

[oblique geyser]

Hmm interisting

[hardy stump]

I wanna ask what Temperature, Top-P, Frequency and Presence Penalties you usually set for Claude bots. @open vault

[hardy stump]

Ironically Claude is easier to keep Jailbroken because of prefill, GPT 4 just randomly unjailbreaks itself if you push it too hard.

Like once you use Prefill you can literally say anything to Claude and it just keeps going.

[open vault]

I don't really care about those stats any more, I just conventionally use 0.6 0.6 0.8 0.8 or other arbitrary.
For claude 3, I sometimes use 1.5 for the penalties just in case it repeats too much

[open vault]

Very true

[hardy stump]

The newest version of Claude is just as easy as V3. For a company that prides itself over safety, GPT ironically made theirs act too flowery plus added too many safe guards, it just becomes annoying to jailbreak.

[glacial pewter]

[halcyon fossil]

[torpid spade]

[glacial pewter]

[crimson garden]

what does the claude sonnet offer in comparison to the other models

[tiny wing]

For MyShell I guess the energy cost? It's probably one of the best models right now to have on a public bot. Although people will probably still prefer 1 energy cost lewl. For the model itself it's kind of similar to gpt-4o in which it has more "understanding" on what it is; and it's capabilities although it's pretty bad for like making stuff up probably due to having less stuff on it since it's sonnet.

Hopefully 3-5-opus soon.

[torpid spade]

[hardy stump]

Question, how do I totally remove repetition of phrases.

Temperature: 0.9
Top P: 0.9
Presence Penalty: 1.5
Frequency Penalty: 1.5

I'm still trying to find the perfect way to totally remove the phrase repeat problem.

Mode importantly should I raise my AI temperature?

[whole crown]

you could raise the temperature to 1 if you have a nice main prompt, claude is more stable in my experience with high temp than gpt

idk about the repitition though, have the same problem, maybe a prefill could help with it but i haven't tried yet

[hardy stump]

I've tried prefill it doesn't work to curb repetition.

[whole crown]

don't know why that happens. on silly using the same model, basically the same jb and main prompt, the repetition doesn't happen as often. maybe there is like a setting there or something else

[hardy stump]

I'll just try ramping up anti Repetition.

[tiny wing]

Sometimes prefill can trigger that, try a comparison temporarily with and without prefill I guess atlhough I think that's more like a claude thing. orz.

[hardy stump]

Its a Claude thing except for Opus.

Opus doesn't repeat though we're gonna have to wait for 3.5 Opus.

[tiny wing]

Yup. I've heard several complains day one about 3.5 repeating the same name and scenario even after several generations

It's really similar to gpt-4o that it's smart but it lacks more of random data

claude 3-5 sonnet might be good if you have the entire plot, location, lorebook, characters laid out already.

[hardy stump]

Does Opus have the same problem?

Its gotten cheaper from 50 to 15.

[tiny wing]

I don't think so.

[hardy stump]

Have you tested any settings to stop phrase repetition, I've currently tried 1.7 for the penalties and 1 for the temperature it's questionably worked.

AI's more proactive but it still stuffers from phrase lock.

[tiny wing]

I usually don't go above 1 with penalties and as for temperature usually 0.8 or 1.1 at most.

maybe 0.4 for frequency and 0.2 for presence.

[hardy stump]

I do that for GPT. But for Claude I started with lower values and still got repetition, in fact its worse with lower settings.

[tiny wing]

you could try a sfw version of your prompt on claude.ai to see if it has the same issue.

since they have 3-5-sonnet for free by default now.

[alpine flower]

Are you using proconfig?

This may work
Pro Config Example: Randomly choosing between LLMs (or other tasks) https://blog.myshell.ai/pro-config-example-randomly-choosing-between-llms-or-other-tasks-0fd983cce59b

[hardy stump]

Yeah, actually I wanna ask for help

[alpine flower]

Do you have a proconfig file?

I'll try to adjust it to include the random llm.

[hardy stump]

Yes

[hardy stump]

Same memory, use Claude Opus for the secondary llm and make sure both read the prefill and use the same prompt.

This one uses Sonnet 3.5

[hardy stump]

https://app.myshell.ai/widget/ZNjUNv

[alpine flower]

Ok
I'll try when I get home tonight (at work now)

[hardy stump]

Alright

I'll actually send the prompt in DMs.

[alpine flower]

Thanks

[hardy stump]

No problem.

[radiant spire]

Opus uses like 50 energy I'm not sure if it's the best idea, except for testing...

[alpine flower]

Thanks for jumping in. I think your random llm may achieve his goal?
Do you think it will?

[radiant spire]

it depends how it repeats, if it's on successive messages, yeah, otherwise it will be tougher if it's the same message/output, you might have to combine LLM outputs (which unfortunately also uses more energy)

[hardy stump]

Opus had its energy consumption lowered.

Its now 15

@alpine flower @radiant spire

Now it's lower than GPT 4 Turbo at least.

[winged rover]

Hi! I want to sell my pass. If someone needs it, DM me and we can talk about the price. It will probably be 20% off or something like that.

[alpine flower]

Is there any way to change a bot from NSFW to SFW.

its new and completely different from the old bot and is SFW.

The slider is stuck on NSFW

** Is the only way to use a different bot**

[whole crown]

did you try resetting the bot completely? just make sure you saved all the prompts if you want to reset it. it will reset the bots rankings and patron badges though

[alpine flower]

I just published it.
So I was hoping not to reset the badges.

[halcyon fossil]

I believe reset is the only way. Please back up your data.

[hardy stump]

Unfortunately no

[hardy stump]

I've tried Opus and its really good, my problem is, it keeps rushing responses. Is the problem with the amount of words I allow it to write or should I a control. Do I put it in the prefill or system prompt?

[tiny wing]

System prompt is fine, just make sure your intro is about the same length I guess since it's usually follows the length of the intro/assistant message.

[whole crown]

I completed the first tutorial day to an rpg proconfig bot I have been working on. It would mean a lot if any of you could check it out and leave feedback or suggestions It will take a very long time to finish the bot but I'm sure (hope) I will one day

(warning: it's very long) https://app.myshell.ai/robot-workshop/bot/1699616012/chat

[crimson solstice]

BoltCut_AI

https://app.myshell.ai/chat/1719288591

anyone know who is the author of this bot?

[whole crown]

only after a few weeks i realized that my main bot was completely broken... why am i getting no feedback or questions from any users...

[open vault]

is catbox down?

[open vault]

Maybe it has not been weeks, maybe it's because of recent engine upgrade...

[whole crown]

yeah it is, but i don't really know how long the upgrade has been on for

and yeah catbox is down for me too, but the images saved are displaying correctly, thankfully

[open vault]

as far as I know, it has been like few days

less than a week

[open vault]

this is probably due to cache... for new users the images might not be loaded

[whole crown]

yeah just checked, it's cache

[open vault]

we...need myshell's own picture platform

[whole crown]

that would be amazing

but i'd rather they work on other stuff... cough cough integrated regeneration and reply editing and much more cough cough

[open vault]

They are already available with pro config, and when widget market becomes available it will be really easy to import

[whole crown]

widget market?

and yeah, for now not that many know how to use pro config, but if the widget market, whatever that is, will come out and help with that, then that's nice

otherwise, for now pro config is almost forced to be used if you want to create a good bot with latest models, but some only want to use simple prompting to create bots

[hardy stump]

Can you set the repetition penalties higher using pro config?

[open vault]

nope, returns error

[whole crown]

since when does that happen? i thought it just starts removing stuff if it goes past memory

[open vault]

Nope, you need to summarize old memories or get rid of old memories by yourself

[whole crown]

that's dum. how do you remove the oldest memories by yourself?

[glacial pewter]

[radiant basalt]

How long?

Longer than from zero?

[whole crown]

no it's just the first tutorial day

[hardy stump]

Does anyone know what happened to Opus?

I'm using the same UJB.

Okay there's something wrong with Claude

Opus skips my Prefill for some reason.

It normally takes 20 seconds long to render a peefill

[open vault]

why replying on my chat with no relation

[hardy stump]

Sonnet 3, 3.5 and Haiku are working fine.

I'm asking for help

[hardy stump]

Is it a bug or does opus work differently now.

[open vault]

IDK i don't use opus and I am not a magic lamp...

[hardy stump]

Oh

[hardy stump]

Can I please ask you to test, I'll send my code in DMs and see if my prompt needs tweaking or if something's changed with how you have to format it or if its genuinely just a bug.

[open vault]

sorry, I am busy now

[hardy stump]

Alright

Tell me if you're free later.

[whole crown]

I can try and take a look if you want

[hardy stump]

Sure, thanks.

[alpine flower]

Just curious.
How long does myshell keep the uploads?

<font color='blue'>/🔥Anime</font>

Input Image: https://image.myshell.ai/image/chat/embed_obj/16651818/202407022010/Myshell_Image_ToonYou_240621_130349.png

[whole crown]

hmm... not sure, good time to check it. Let's see how long this image will stay up you created it like about 30 minutes ago or something?

[alpine flower]

At least 1 or 2 days ago i think.

[hardy stump]

I'm genuinely wondering if Prefill for Opus is broken because I heard there was an update a day ago on Pro Config V2 or something.

[prime jay]

😖 RIP dead bots

[whole crown]

time to make new ones, bots almost never last on myshell

[radiant basalt]

😐

[torpid spade]

[radiant basalt]

anyone can teach me nocode...

[open vault]

how about just a pro config mode...

[alpine flower]

I tried no code.
I found it harder than learning the proconfig code as it never seemed to work and I spent more time debugging...

[alpine flower]

What are you trying to create?
Maybe we can help you.

[radiant basalt]

Iearning proconfig is difficult for me L:/

[alpine flower]

Up to you.
But I think unless it's a complicated project maybe I can at least get you started.

[blissful idol]

When you learn this, teach me too please

[radiant basalt]

Yeah I'm trying to learn Nocode by using ut

But too many glitches

[whole crown]

I don't think the devs focus on nocode so much, so there might be a few bugs, especially after proconfig v2

make sure to report any bugs you encounter in feedback or proconfig channel

actually there probably should be a dedicated nocode channel

[open vault]

Nocode probably will be deleted or be simplified with all the widgets...

[whole crown]

yeah probably, no one is using it

[radiant spire]

so is there anything that V2 actually did good other than ruining some bots config?

did someone compile list of new features or something

[radiant basalt]

dont please

I think new app creators like to use nocode because proconfig is like a new language

and I think nocode is easier to learn than pro config but less features

if the dev fixed the bugs the nocode must be cool for newbie app creating

[open vault]

Honestly, current no code is not good enough. Nocode could be substituted with much better one

After then, when widget market takes place and we can talk about 'lego-like code building', we can think of nocode again

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

Hiii IKA!!!

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

your twitter looks really cool!!!

[open vault]

Slump for creating bots and doing some meaningless tweets

[torpid spade]

proceeds to create best tweets right after creating best pro-config bots

[whole crown]

meaninglesss? maybe one will go viral and explode all over twitter, you never know

[open vault]

[torpid spade]

[open vault]

To the moon

[torpid spade]

To the moon!
Your tweets are fire, they'll blow up soon

[whole crown]

moon? we are aiming for mars

[open vault]

No tweet only myshell

And many of your bots underrated by cheaters

[torpid spade]

those tweets are gonna bring in a lot of new users in myshell!!!

[radiant basalt]

There are too many underrated bots...

And lots of cheaters

[jolly dune]

How are you guys?

[radiant basalt]

I'm good. How about you?

[jolly dune]

Life has been busy after graduation

[open vault]

Nooo

[whole crown]

congrats on graduating

[open vault]

Someone must lock up NHL and make him make bots everyday

[whole crown]

on my way to get some rope and duct tape

[open vault]

[whole crown]

don't worry nlh, it won't hurt... not much anyways

[jolly dune]

Appreciate it!

[alpine flower]

Hi.
What it this?
Will I require a wallet to benifit as a creator?
https://myshells.app/register

[open vault]

scam

Never register

Never click non-official links

[radiant basalt]

GM creators

[whole crown]

[woeful cedar]

At first, I thought that widgets worked like that... but actually, I don't know how to implement widgets as blocks, they look like a complete different bot totally unrelated with anything I could create

[open vault]

current widgets are honestly just a basic features, nothing really like "Widget"

[woeful cedar]

Absolutely...

By the way, I am doing some testing with GPT 4o... and 4 Turbo, etc. - Is there any good jailbreak? the one I used for 3.5 16K is not working at all 😦

[open vault]

how about sonnet instead

Prefill being really strong

[woeful cedar]

Sonnet... is saying "Sorry, I am not comfortable with a roleplay this explicitally sexual..." D: but it started very well!

[woeful cedar]

Probably the prefill I am using is not effective

[woeful cedar]

Also Opus... Opus went even better, really great result, but same output

[open vault]

Can you show me your prefill?

[woeful cedar]

it's in Spanish XDDDD I tried to create a bot with Spanish base

let me translate it and pass it in DM

[torpid spade]

guyss....

how do i add a banner img in my bots?

can't seem to find it in the ui

[whole crown]

Can you even see banners now? I don't know where do you add or even see them currently

[torpid spade]

they can be still seen in their patron badges

I guess....

[hardy stump]

I have a GPT 4 Jailbreak but its iffy.

I still don't know how to fully Jailbreak it.

Like somehow you can fully Jailbreak it on the ChatGPT Website but its iffy on MyShell for some reason.

[woeful cedar]

Seems the only way to hijack more powerful models, is the pro config...

Guys, is the page working for you???

[alpine flower]

Myshell.ai is giving me a server error

[woeful cedar]

Same here...

[radiant basalt]

fixed

[woeful cedar]

The bot configuration doesn't work at all... only part of the site functionality is available... 🤔

[hardy stump]

Is there anything similar to prefills but for GPT models?

Like not exactly prefill, like specifically something that forces a bot to act a certain way like bypass censorship.

[woeful cedar]

Classic Jailbreaks were like that: using the language itself to bypass that censorship. It's enough with 3, 3.5 and 3.5 16k, but higher than that, seems its not enough

[hardy stump]

Yeah I know

[jolly dune]

#📢｜product-updates message

Revamp patron badge

[radiant basalt]

anyone know how to use this?

https://app.myshell.ai/widget/YjI3me

Idk what to input

[coral smelt]

lfg new changes incoming. Cant wait to hear more about this.

[whole crown]

Can anyone with a few $ in their crypto wallets help me with getting some crypto in my myshell wallet to launch an alpp? I can't get any myself bc of legal reasons

I will send the money afterwards in paypal

[radiant basalt]

I have some,I can help you

how much do you need?

I don't have paypal I can give you some of BNB for free

[whole crown]

I'll dm you

[alpine flower]

with this new change is there any value in bots that are not paid for / minted?
Do we now have 2 types of bots? the NFT investment version and the original web 2?

[whole crown]

Well, launching a bot as an AIpp won't really increase the amount of points you earn, or interactions. It really only works as a token that allows people to invest in, giving the creator a precentage of the investment.

So no, nothing much is different between the bots that are launched and the bots that aren't launched. One isn't inferior to the other in any way

At least that's what i think is the case so far

[alpine flower]

Thanks

[inner isle]

Hi, why I can't launch an AIpp, I have met all requirements, it's just getting stucked on the last step when I click "Confirm"

[full token]

do you have bnb in your wallet?

[full token]

hi, if any creators (been here for a long time) need help with BNB (gas fee), please feel free to shoot me dm

[full token]

launching an AIpp is just a new way for creators to monetize their work, which won't affect creators to get exposure and engagement and points through traditional way

[zinc swan]

You use PC? Or phone?

[inner isle]

yes, ok it works

[inner isle]

it was PC, after reloading my PC it works

So it's done now! Join pre-sale in $marketing 🙂

btw I have read official annoucment and I have an Idea that you replaced patron system, but how it works in details... any article to read?

[whole crown]

I don't think so, ethan and others eill probably tell more about it in the discord event tomorrow

And then maybe an article by myshell will be written

[glass imp]

There's an article written by @crimson solstice https://x.com/vgb42629715/status/1814322978282492234

[whole crown]

oh nvm then

[inner isle]

ok it explains some basic concepts

but the most interesting part for me is:

1. how pricing mechanism works?
2. what's the point for investors to buy it?
   a) they get rewarded for their tokens when somebody uses bots (like it was with patron badge)
   b) they get profit/loss when there are a demand for this bot
   How it works a) or b) or both? or maybe something else

[oblique geyser]

You are so kind...

[radiant spire]

what's the currency used for sponsoring bots?

it's not shell coins

are shell coins useless now

[whole crown]

1. it has a linear increase that is the same for all bots. Increasing the price every time a share is bought
2. to a) invest and later resell. b) earn some points. ("Every time an AIpp’s trading volume reaches 0.2 BNB , holders will receive a total of 40 points, distributed equally based on the number of AIpp shares they possess.") c) to show support to the creators, since they get a small percentage of the investment as well.

And as how it works, it's more like b, since holders don't get rewarded for any interactions users have with the bot.

[whole crown]

BNB (real money basically)

[alpine flower]

1. How much real money does it cost to mint.

2. Will the shell coin ever be able to be used for minting?

[alpine flower]

How long is long?

[whole crown]

if by minting it you mean launching it, it's a very minimal cost, about 0.01$ in bnb

[alpine flower]

What's that in usd

[whole crown]

I meant as in 0.01usd

[alpine flower]

How would I load? Credit card? And do I need a different wallet or is the myshell wallet sufficient

[radiant spire]

so you get rewarded for pump & dumping basically?

[whole crown]

You would have to send crypto from another wallet to myshell, but I am sure aiko will help you with that, you've been an active creator for a good while after all

[whole crown]

Basically yeah

I am pretty sure some malicious users might try to manipulate the token prices by buying from several accounts, hyping up the bot for investors, before selling the shares for a much higher price than it would have otherwise reached.

But that pretty much happens with literally anything and everything

[radiant spire]

well yeah, that's how pump & dump works with stocks too, but the difference is that stocks can have "actual value", as in, they actually produce something useful

of course the same applies to bots but

what's the criteria to measure that though?

irl stocks do that by revenue generated

with patron badge it was the "interaction" thing, even though it was flawed

but now what?

[whole crown]

Now it's the points you get when the trading volume reaches a certain value. Meaning the more people buy and sell the shares for the bot, the more points you get

It's not a lot of points but i am pretty sure now that the points are divided in different varieties it will have a different exchange rate

[radiant spire]

yeah but that makes no sense to me

why would you get points (as in revenue) for people trading your stocks? that literally promotes abuse like pump & dump but not even dump anymore it's just spam buy/sell

legit the bot itself has nothing to do with this

it doesn't matter what the bot does etc

it makes no sense

[whole crown]

Yeah I know, that's why the most expensive tokens aren't even good made bots, just some random bots that were made in a minute or two, that doesn't really give myshell good exposure. I don't know why they would do it this way tbh, I thought this would be as same as patron badge.

[alpine flower]

So the trading has no effect on the interaction and vice versa?

Just to different "revenue streams"

And neither one has any real value until sometime in the future after "the drop" ?

[whole crown]

I guess so, I am not really the one you should be asking questions to tbh, neither I should answer them, since I am both not that knowledgeable about this, and don't have any information about it from anyone from the myshell team. You should ask any questions you have tomorrow in the discord event or whatever

[zinc swan]

we can ask some questions in the live guys. stay tuned

[open vault]

Raising same question, hope they have answer in AMA

There could be future utilities or future drops... or else it's just memecoin without any use

The intention (to benifit creator with real money + to trade AI bots + burning $Shell in future ) is well driven, so I think the team will have the answer

[zinc swan]

@everyone
Please leave your questions under the AMA tweet.

We will select some questions to answer during the AMA, and selected questions will receive a reward of 10 Coins.

https://x.com/myshell_ai/status/1814210732893815194

Please be careful not to click on fake official links on Twitter to avoid potential asset loss. (The official link will only be posted in the main tweet)

MyShell (@myshell_ai) on X

MyShell Open House: Craft, share, and earn with AI apps

Date: July 20th, 2024
Time: 11 AM (UTC)
Speakers: Ethan, Aiko & Lizzy
Space Link: https://t.co/lhVrHEgEl2

NFT Giveaway - Only available to those attending LIVE!

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 8:08 AM

[jolly dune]

Giveaway NFT

[scenic ice]

Has the event ended? I can't download the room. Is there a video? Or a summary of the content

[radiant basalt]

submit 3 question,hope Myshell team can answer atleast one of the question~

[hard violet]

This AIpp Store event essentially provides creators with a way to showcase their best bot and gain real-monetization. All public bots created by Creators will continue to generate creator points (yellow). After the launch of best bot, the bot will generate additional sponsor points (green). Therefore, creators shouldn't worry about you can now have only one public bot for generating points and revenue. Instead, you can now earn more sponsorships based on the popularity of your bots on the AIpp Store. (You may have noticed that bots hastily created for hype only gain short-lived favor.)

Additionally, if you have any concerns about obtaining BNB, please feel free to contact me or Aiko, or simply fill out the form below. We can assist you with all issues related to this matter.
https://forms.gle/ZzJ7S4FbZENaZFsHA

[full token]

do you guys think we should host a creator-only AMA?

[radiant basalt]

yes please

[open vault]

I think you have misunderstood the problem.

Bot's performance does not necessarily correlate to the key's value. That's the point we are talking about.

Current leading ones are definitely not the 'Top performing bot'. If there are no further utility, I think it has no difference with meme coins for buyers. They don't have to buy the hyping bot's coin, they would rather buy hyping token's token. As you can see now, $Shello is on 20k$ while most of well created bots has <1k$ market cap.

Bot's revenue comes from "trading volume" of the key. If the team meant to reward 'Good creators', I think the team need to find additional ways to give merits to "Great creators' badge".

I believe there will be further modification to this system, but I think the most important thing is to make traders believe that- It's not about "Trading", but it's rather about "Finding and supporting good creator" and it will benefit themselves. Current system does not persuade traders in that direction at all.

I don't want to leave any question marks on my twitter, so I will leave the question here for now.

[whole crown]

Completely agree. The ones that are getting rewarded and supported aren't really the good creators with good bots, but mostly just people who have won a game of luck, chance, time, and hype

[full token]

which ones are well created bots? i'd like to buy the dip

maybe we can add on "highlight" icon to thoes who launch by top-creator?

[open vault]

That's another way of 'hype', I mean real 'utility'

[alpine flower]

We should have some kind of rating. Maybe a creator approval rating. and in order to vote you would need to be an approved creator (Studio menber maybe?)

Also how come we cannot see a full list of bots including the "junk bots" worth lttle or nothing?
It seems like there are very few bots unless I'm just not looking in the right place.

[radiant basalt]

if there's only a "highlight" icon,there are no extra benfits you can get,I think nothing will change,people will still buy things the think they can make income

maybe reduce offical tax for highlight creator's Aipp?

or do something else that people will support good creator

[alpine flower]

I love the creating & need help understanding how or if I should get involved in the web3 or next phase.
I very much would be interested

[hard violet]

I totally agree with your perspective.
My main point was to highlight that the current AIpp Store market is still in an exploratory phase.
While most Shares are appreciating in value, this isn't necessarily due to their intrinsic worth.
However, bots without value will inevitably be the first to be discarded by the market.
Kirbish's Bot demonstrate that quality work can still achieve substantial support and high rankings.

In the future, we are committed to providing appropriate grant support for high-quality bots within our ecosystem.
We also plan to continue launching applications that integrate both Bots and Shares.
However, as the AIpp Store system has only recently been introduced, we're not in a position to disclose details about these plans at this time.

[alpine flower]

is the AMA here in discord this morning? I'll be driving so I was hoping to listen

[whole crown]

it's in 5 minutes

[glass imp]

it's on Twitter.

[alpine flower]

Thanks

[radiant basalt]

Oh sorry,I think it's creator AMA mention before😅

[hushed path]

[uncut steeple]

https://app.myshell.ai/bot/zE3Yja/1713582743

[tender hinge]

What's the most biggest change for creators in this update?
For creators who are not into crypto, there isn't much change, right?

[glass imp]

No more badge points. We can't use shell coins to trade anymore.

In addition, now we can't see bots' performance(including ourselves and others). I think it would be nice to have the rank back, so we can see what kinds of bots are the most popular ones.

I think the new version is way too focused on trading. They've cut off a lot of important info for creators. It feels like the platform is changing direction. They're moving away from creators and bots, and putting all their energy into BNB investments and trading instead.

[keen quail]

This change is positive. I am diligently optimizing the bot and spreading it. Previously, there was no motivation to do so, instead finding ways to create a bot that can reply conveniently and respond quickly.

[hardy stump]

Unfortunately Crypto requires that you already have something in your wallet.

I don't, so I can't trade anything.

It would be better if you can publish your first trading cards for free and use your revenue to publish more cards.

[whole crown]

if you are talking by performance as the dashboard, it's been moved to profile tab. But if you are talking about the shell points earned and stuff we could see in the patron badge tab, then yeah it's a real bummer

[alpine flower]

what is the benefit to buying a share of a bot?

[open vault]

when the bot is traded, you earn points proportional to the total trade volume

[hard violet]

The most biggest change in this update is the introduction of a new trading interface to replace the previous Patron Badge system.
We made this decision to address the issue of score manipulation and cheating, which was a common complaint among creators.
After this update, many creators have reported a significant drop in bot usage due to the removal of incentives for general users.

We anticipated this issue, but we believe that artificial usage driven by these incentives is not sustainable for long-term growth and does not accurately reflect the genuine demand for a bot.

Regarding crypto-related concerns, the MyShell team is aware that many creators are unfamiliar with Web3 and crypto.
So, if you're interested in learning more about this field, please feel free to contact me at any time.

If you're having trouble obtaining BNB, please fill out the form below. Once we've verified the information, we'll send sufficient BNB directly to your wallet.
https://forms.gle/JYybRmb3mguGF7uV6

[glass imp]

Oh, I see, it's been moved to a new place. I was talking about both.

[alpine flower]

1. how are people motivated to choose one bot vs another? and does the shareholder get any benefit if someone used the bot to chat?

2, are the share purchases speculation based on market trends or do the users chatting with a bot add to the value in any way?

[open vault]

1. Dunno / No
2. Chatting does not add the value

[alpine flower]

Sounds kinda like a lottery. but the players control the outcome...

Where did the patron badges go? are they still a thing?

[hardy stump]

No

The Shell Coins from the badges will be refunded I think.

[alpine flower]

So is this right?

1. it shifted from patron badges/points to real money shares?

2. and bot chatting has no return for the share holders, only return for a share holder is selling share at higher price.

3. value of bot share is determined by the number of shares people have purchased and are currently holding.

4. Chatting bots earns points / coins (which are for future use, or may have value in the future)

5. coins cannot be used for anything other than cloning a voice right now.

[open vault]

4. (Others) Chatting your bot earns (creator) points

[alpine flower]

yes

so the coins have less use now (almost none really).
what is the point in collecting them now.

will the coins have more uses in the future?

[keen quail]

The positive cycle will start from spreading high-quality bots to obtain influence points, which can be exchanged for SHELL at a good ratio.
More people will enter the application and use suitable bots to improve productivity. More speculators will enter the application and buy AIpp bot shares.