it's actually not that OP
#Rofflatro, the Roffle Mod (BETA) - looking for testers!
supple yew
that doesnt sound too unreasonable idk
nocturne hare
yeah but some people proclaiming it's op
it's just a slightly stronger uncommon
actually the funniest thing to do is nerf it by 0.01 Xmult
supple yew
perfect
autumn swan
actually the funniest thing to do is nerf it by 0.01 Xmult
When the devs are tired of peoples shit:
tropic sonnet
crashes on launch, rofflatro and cardsleeves are my two only mods
crashes even without cardsleeves, gonna go monkey mode
autumn swan
crashes on launch, rofflatro and cardsleeves are my two only mods
What OS are you running
tropic sonnet
windows 11
nocturne hare
u hm???
autumn swan
Odd
We've been having a lot of issues with this lately
But as far as I know nothing really changed
autumn swan
I don't understand
I can't read
That's the point isn't it
What is happening lol
Why game bork
Also Im pretty sure linux will show as windows
nocturne hare
nocturne hare
Why game bork
it's me, i'm the problem
i forgor a comma in In-N-Out and for some reason it crashes jokerlist?
anyways i fixed it
autumn swan
Lmao
nocturne hare
we gotta get a joker loader that gives error messages 😭
autumn swan
Is it because I pointed out your non conventional variable naming convention
nocturne hare
...maybe
autumn swan
I could try building one
nocturne hare
nocturne hare
fixed
nocturne hare
crashes on launch, rofflatro and cardsleeves are my two only mods
fixed 2
how do i manage to write the voucher patchers near-first try but fail at changing a single upgrade message
supple yew
coding be like that sometimes
nocturne hare
would it be fun to add boss blinds
solid condor
What about other card types?
autumn swan
What about other card types?
Imo it doesn't fit the scope of the mod
nocturne hare
no consumables — most consumables are just tarots; spectrals; better off as vouchers or jokers
and i dislike adding extra tarots or spectrals directly because it really clogs arcana and spectral packs
which ergo, no enhancements, editions, suits, or seals
¯_(ツ)_/¯
this is kinda why i agree with roffle that jokers are the most interesting thing in a mod
nocturne hare
no consumables — most consumables are just tarots; spectrals; better off as vouc...
-# and whatever tetromino packs count as
the main feel of rofflatro is currently between Extra Credit and Paperback and that's kinda exactly where I like it
idk about the other devs though id like to hear more
austere heart
the main issue with adding consumables without adding new packs is that you basically have to make spectrals
since tarots and planets are a complete set
nocturne hare
vouchers rock they're just a guaranteed negative joker
austere heart
and with spectrals you either make Immolate 2 or it basically never sees play
(this is a bit of an exaggeration)
nocturne hare
i find blinds to be an interesting thing to add
it's important to test blind stuff though
austere heart
blinds are interesting to add but i feel there's not much room
or at least significantly less than jokers/vouchers/etc.
nocturne hare
i also want to throw in potential for rofflatro crossmod
crossmod is good you can add jokers without clogging your vanilla experience
which btw i feel we might be approaching
austere heart
idk if there are any roffle bits you could do for morefluff crossmod but if you think of any you can add them
nocturne hare
i was thinking ortalab perhaps
austere heart
who is ortalabbed roffle
nocturne hare
elffor
austere heart
true,
nocturne hare
ortalffor? i'm not doing that i know it closes the window
austere heart
it's even funnier the second time
nocturne hare
exactly
we also gotta rework some jokers
the problem is that we have jokers that disappear
which makes chat think streamer does pick up modded jokers
Never Punished is unironically just a spectral
also in the doc i feel like Pinned Joker is a good idea for a blind
The Pin
1 random joker gets pinned each hand
it's a national thing bc pinned exists in vanilla* and is a negative effect
austere heart
do they get unpinned after the blind
nocturne hare
yes
autumn swan
Well and I think we have room to add a blind that interacts with favorites in some way
nocturne hare
permanent negative effects in blinds are genuinely just unfun
solid condor
the main issue with adding consumables without adding new packs is that you basi...
Cryptid would like a word
nocturne hare
cryptid's words mean nothing
autumn swan
Cryptid would like a word
Cryptid is not something we are trying to emulate with this mod
nocturne hare
this is a vanilla+ mod
autumn swan
The closest thing to cryptid is main channel
nocturne hare
main channel isn't actually allat useful
autumn swan
And even that has it's own special rules
nocturne hare
main channel is kinda oil lamp if it was balanced
oil lamp is rare this statement is factual
autumn swan
For me it's the BP brainstorm behavior
nocturne hare
twas nerfed anyway
autumn swan
Funnily enough I think it's a buff
Because if a BP or brainstorm triggered main channel the main channel would die
thick wasp
Just it in the latest version of Roffatro, got the same crash.
autumn swan
in n out crashed my game
@nocturne hare
thick wasp
...Yup, it declares chip_mod but tries to use chipgain instead.
autumn swan
You missed something
autumn swan
...Yup, it declares chip_mod but tries to use chipgain instead.
Recently we decided to rename the vars in that joker to fit common convention
thick wasp
Gotcha
autumn swan
Ig they missed some
pine night
lmao
pine night
why is my speculative oops 16
pine night
and BP says its compatible despite not being
autumn swan
Huh
nocturne hare
<@706083462750404658>
fml
nocturne hare
and BP says its compatible despite not being
oh this is true calc_dollar_bonus...
both have been fixed
nocturne hare
i'll write a spec oops page on the wiki
i have written the page on the wiki
supple yew
math stuff
autumn swan
So we were talking about changing the way jokers are loaded
What were we thinking
Because I think I have a way to do it
supple yew
i got no clue the current system seemed fine to me
but if it can be improved thas cool
solid condor
@supple yew Sorry for my wording for the GGs on the HRT in DMs!
supple yew
dw
solid condor
Idea: Cryptid-esque levels of insanity WITH CRYPTID INSTALLED
supple yew
cryptid compatibility sounds like a lotta work
it would be really funny
worth considering in the futurr
autumn swan
We do need to implement talisman at some point
solid condor
it *would* be really funny
There. There's your reason for adding it in.
supple yew
We do need to implement talisman at some point
also true
solid condor
No further reasoning needed. Just because it's Funny™
supple yew
might as well add some spicy easter eggs for when we inevitably force roffle to play cryptid again
solid condor
Cursed Joker suggestion (yes it has curses now lemme cook):
Twitch Chat Ideas
Cursed
When Joker is obtained, set money to ^-3
No
Fuck. Got the name & rarity, at least
supple yew
that sounds amazing
solid condor
Idk abt the effect, tho
supple yew
it's a start
nocturne hare
might as well add some spicy easter eggs for when we inevitably force roffle to ...
Why Don't You Play Them
new cryptid effect: disables cryptid
solid condor
it's a start
Superchat: ^4 current balance
pine night
Do you guys plan to add consumables?
autumn swan
Do you guys plan to add consumables?
No, we don't think it fits within the scope of the mod
autumn swan
I have an idea for a challenge though it may be a little stupid
Speak
pine night
Like disabled cards would still be disabled but just not visibly so
Acorn would still flip/shuffle but wouldn’t look like it flipped or shuffled
Some would be obvious (flip card ones + bell) but some would be a lot harder
And it would be fun
supple yew
yall ready to get this update released or what :3
nocturne hare
yall ready to get this update released or what :3
yup
or maybe 2 voucher sets to complete the page?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
autumn swan
Wait
Didn't I say id re write the takeover things to work with multiplayer
Ig can do that later
thick wasp
DVD failed to trigger from Hallucination.
supple yew
fuck my ass
autumn swan
fuck my ass
Sorry I'm taken /j
thick wasp
That was the only one I had tried in that run, but I've used it with other cards before and had no issues.
thick wasp
is it specifically hallucination or
Okay, I just tried it with Hallucination again, Space Joker, Cavendish, and Reserved Parking. Only Cavendish worked.
Only other mod active was Debug Plus.
thick wasp
I'm definitely on the latest version from Github, too.
nocturne hare
@supple yew this is because SMODS has updated its probability function
everything uses SMODS.pseudorandom_probability() now
nocturne hare
Why???
using the in-game function makes it difficult for probability to change across mods
e.g. it allows for +1 probability effects to get sorted out iirc
but the way everyone was doing it was already kinda scuffed
autumn swan
but the way everyone was doing it was already kinda scuffed
I'm guessing there's no documentation for this
nocturne hare
?
well yeah but it's not difficult to understand so i will be updating the patches anyway
also why are these at and not after patches lmao
supple yew
dude i dont even remember how i implemented dvd lmfao it's probably a mess
my b
gonna have to update the smods dependency in the json too
nocturne hare
main channel, sevens suck, and spec oops too
thick wasp
dude i dont even remember how i implemented dvd lmfao it's probably a mess
DVD uses a custom context which gets patched into various vanilla joker files via a toml file.
Since SMODS has that function to roll for probabilities, I imagine that can just be hooked to call the custom context.
autumn swan
DVD uses a custom context which gets patched into various vanilla joker files vi...
That's what I was thinking
More hooks
Less patches
nocturne hare
this is what i am doing yeah
nocturne hare
autumn swan
we need 2 more sets of vouchers
Hmmmm
autumn swan
we need 2 more sets of vouchers
having all the voucers in one file was bothering me
to i made them work like the jokers
autumn swan
man
thinking of a voucher is not easy lol
Rags: hermit is more likly to appear in the shop
Ritches: Temprence is more lily to appear in the shop
@nocturne hare @supple yew potental voucher idea
supple yew
<@188931159797923840> how stupid is this
hold R until you get the baron build start
supple yew
Rags: hermit is more likly to appear in the shop
Ritches: Temprence is more lily...
also these could be nice too
nocturne hare
hold R until you get the baron build start
sometimes you get blueprint or brainstorm or other really good rares
tbh i find this more fun when you don't reset
merry aspen
is there a "five is more than three" joker in this?
nocturne hare
is there a "five is more than three" joker in this?
i don't think so but i need you to specify the joke
merry aspen
When he has a gold card that matches what mail in rebate landed on, he says "five is more than three" because otherwise chatters will complain that he got rid of the gold card
merry aspen
Maybe it could be like, gold cards give two more dollars but you also lose two dollars if you discard a gold card
So now holding gives 5 and rebate gives 3
nocturne hare
@supple yew i kinda like this better than money shots
im on the opinion that money shots is snowballish and somewhat uninteresting
merry aspen
What does money shots do again?
nocturne hare
either you hold onto it and it does nothing or it sets you on econ for like 2 antes
supple yew
hm
i guess the uncommon nature of money hits on lucky cards makes it kinda useless in most contexts
i thought it would be interesting but maybe it's too inconsistent
autumn swan
We need some kind of richest man in BALATRO joke
toxic pine
the new 1.1.3e requires a version of steammodded that I can't find listed on their github. How do I play it?
autumn swan
the new 1.1.3e requires a version of steammodded that I can't find listed on the...
Most of the time you just download using the green button on the GitHub page
thick wasp
Yeah, their 'releases' section is 3 weeks old compared to the actual latest commit.
autumn swan
Smods be crazy like that
autumn swan
Hrt tomorrow
celest hamlet
Hrt tomorrow
Based
solid condor
fuck my ass
You calleeeeeddddd~?
supple yew
bruh 😭
supple yew
Hrt tomorrow
also forgot to say congrats!!!!
supple yew
sorry ive been neglecting the project a bit, life is chaos rn
but im hoping we can get that update up and running this weekend
supple yew
still thinking about this. what if it increased the likelihood of specifically money hits in lucky cards?
like from 1 in 15 to 1 in 10?
wait it was 1 in 20 baseline wasnt it
eugh im too sleepy to think numbers but you get the idea
nocturne hare
still thinking about this. what if it increased the likelihood of specifically m...
this could work
supple yew
thing is how do we implement it
just take ownership of lucky cards?
feel like im really lagging behind in terms of coding knowledge
dire panther
i have a question, when i download and try to run rofflatro, it says that it's missing a dependency, steammodded beta 0626b?
the latest release on github is beta 0614a
nvm, figured it out, just have to download from code button, not releases
thick wasp
wait it was 1 in 20 baseline wasnt it
No, you were right the first time. 1 in 5 for mult, 1 in 15 for money.
autumn swan
thing is how do we implement it
What about: when one lucky card effect triggers, this joker triggers the other
warm valley
Hey i'm having trouble playing the mod it's saying I need smod version 0626 but there isn't on in the github
autumn swan
Hey i'm having trouble playing the mod it's saying I need smod version 0626 but ...
Download from the code button on GitHub
Istg
Smods needs to get their shit in gear
warm valley
Ooooh okay I've always just went to newest release thank you gamer
Okay that did it I now have jonklers thank you
proud scarab
sorry, not sure if this has been brought up before.
is it intended that main channel increases numbers for jokers that do not have any numbers in the text?
i noticed in a high score run today that mime was triggering additional times, despite not having a number in its text (but presumably internally it does)
proud scarab
lol main channel + selling troubadour =
supple yew
ouf
nocturne hare
did we not ban hands
autumn swan
nocturne hare
whoa,,,
solid condor
Hehehehedhehe
modest path
hello, im currently using steammodded 0614a and the mod says it requires 0624b or up. the newest steammodded version 0711a causes my game to crash no matter what, is there any versions of steammodded inbetween?
or any reason for the newest steammodded to crash my game, i just assumed its because its new and unstable
blissful pond
or any reason for the newest steammodded to crash my game, i just assumed its be...
No, it's likely a problem with your mods.
modest path
okay thanks
solid condor
What distro?
Vavle's
still grove
nocturne hare
@supple yew i think it's fine to release it
supple yew
yea ive been thinking about it just havent had the time to focus on this project my b gang
supple yew
supple yew
yo uh
problem
when reloading a run with the high scoring deck you get an extra set of jokers as if you just started the run
im p sure theres a parameter that tells you whether the run just started or was resumed after quitting
supple yew
oh wait thats for a different func
reset_game_globals
tbh i think im gonna move the stuff in start_run into SMODS.reset_game_globals
nocturne hare
thumbs up
oh
there's a new isue
@autumn swan
???
heh?
oh
they have talisman
.-.
autumn swan
they have talisman
Ffffuuccjkk
nocturne hare
nocturne hare
tbh i think im gonna move the stuff in start_run into SMODS.reset_game_globals
uh oh
oh you put the challenge stuff along with it
fixed
supple yew
oa
supple yew
roffle might try the update tomorrow or the day after
so we got a bit of time for quick bugfixing before the stream
nocturne hare
so we got a bit of time for quick bugfixing before the stream
im updating the wiki
i fixed 4 bugs already
nocturne hare
the funny thing about updating the wiki is that i don't have the images for the jokers so im just going to use the place tuah image
supple yew
LMAO
nocturne hare
it's funnier because im purposefully not adding the excom joker
so chat has to actually translate the engagement morse code
when roffle gets to it
supple yew
i really hope they do notoce
nocturne hare
no way they don't notice
if twitch chat doesn't notice then youtube is gonna notice
supple yew
really wanna see him find excom
nocturne hare
excom is also designed to appear more often on the streamer deck
proud scarab
got this after beating a boss blind (plant, if that's relevant) on the High Score deck
after restarting and resuming the run it worked as intended, probably an issue with a new voucher??
yep, got it to happen again after beating another boss blind
supple yew
huh
that's a weird one
seems like the stack trace points back to line 75 here
that's the only bit of code i can see that is related to the crash which is really odd since this is just a relatively normal and non-intrusive hook
seems to happen before any of the extra added code is run too
so it has to be something else
it definitely has to do with one of the new vouchers
problem is figuring out which one and why
this is where the error happens apparently
v is a boolean for whatever reason so when it tries to index in_pool the game shits itself
now why is v a boolean
we may never know
somehow the voucher pool is saving booleans instead of vouchers
only suspects i can think of are the new vouchers and voucher clear
supple yew
oh by the way maybe it's just my playstyle but yesterday i tried a high scoring deck run, got in-n-out as my starting common and let me tell ya my chips were ZOOMIN
i think it got to something ridiculous like 500
so that's something to potentially nerf
proud scarab
only suspects i can think of are the new vouchers and voucher clear
it’s interesting, I was able to reproduce the bug with a voucher skip so that is definitely part of it. however, I also used a mod to try disabling your new vouchers (banner is the mod name) and that did not prevent the crash
if it helps, none of my runs used the voucher clear joker
nocturne hare
ill check laer
nocturne hare
oh by the way maybe it's just my playstyle but yesterday i tried a high scoring ...
impressive!
i did suspect in n out to be decently good
autumn swan
Wait isn't the code for the vouchers done via patches?
supple yew
just for deck stuffer. however there's also some fixes for vanilla stuff... maybe that's messing with something?
supple yew
filled in the wiki with all new jokers minus excom (secrety secret)
supple yew
HE'S PLAYING IT
proud scarab
oh boy, hope there is no crash
supple yew
i genuinely think he's playing on an old patch 😭
proud scarab
okok i was just able to get the new vouchers, first level at least, while on streamer deck
so maybe it has something to do with high score deck?
proud scarab
okok i was just able to get the new vouchers, first level at least, while on str...
edit: nope, got it to bug on streamer deck as well
brisk rampart
I am getting a crash every time I try to run any deck
here is the log it gives on crash. It doesn't crash with mod disabled
supple yew
someone suggested this
supple yew
here is the log it gives on crash. It doesn't crash with mod disabled
wot
wait
mysterious ass error
there's no args defined here at least that i can see
...somebody forgot the parenthesis is that it
brisk rampart
that might do it
proud scarab
someone suggested this
i agree fetching a voucher is the initial cause, but i got the bug without ever using voucher clear (if thats what they mean by removed)
supple yew
excommunication has been spoiled it's so over
proud scarab
ngl I checked the code to see how to get it to show up, but I didn’t figure out in that glance what it does lmao
proud scarab
ok, having gone through a run now obtaining every voucher
i am rather confident that the bug is somehow coming from the 2nd level of deck fixer
its the only one i have never successfully seen in the shop
always either get the crash or a different voucher
supple yew
woh
@nocturne hare need ya help with this one
especially since im about to board a plane to denmark and im not gonna be available for a whole week LOL
nocturne hare
<@706083462750404658> need ya help with this one
k
nocturne hare
i am rather confident that the bug is somehow coming from the 2nd level of deck ...
appears in shop just fine i think
i did notice something weird about it
that being that the voucher doesn't have deck fixer as a mandatory voucher
which i weird because it does on my build
i've changed it
proud scarab
that being that the voucher doesn't have deck fixer as a mandatory voucher
i saw in the code that it needs magic trick iirc
proud scarab
that is a different crash than the one im getting a lot
i actually even got it to crash by checking my vouchers while a hand was scoring
proud scarab
got this after beating a boss blind (plant, if that's relevant) on the High Scor...
this is the bug ive been seeing, if you're not familiar
nocturne hare
this is the bug ive been seeing, if you're not familiar
can you try to download from the green button and do it again
i pushed some stuff
proud scarab
i once again got it to crash by checking my voucher list while a hand was scoring
these are the vouchers i have, if it matters
oh wow
i even found a different crash
p.s. sorry for not realizing previously i could output the error like this
got the crash again with only overstock, and a triggered skip tag
its possible it is some interaction with my other mods, so i can try later with everything else disabled. but the bug only started occuring since the 1.2 update
proud scarab
this is with all mods besides Rofflatro disabled: new bug immediately after acquiring deck stuffer and purchasing card pack from shop
got seemingly the same thing, this time when attempting to load shop after beating a blind
nocturne hare
wtf
proud scarab
lmao sorry, i truly have no idea
thick wasp
wtf
I could reproduce the Deck Stuffer crash from the latest Github commit's version, but only if the deck had no favorite cards (i.e. because the only favorite just got deleted). If there are any favorite cards, standard packs work fine for me.
supple yew
ahh makes sense
supple yew
welp gonna catch a plane home so i can look at it in a few hours
supple yew
oh i think that's the voucher crash issue we've been having
no idea what's up with that one still
proud scarab
am i crazy or must something just be corrupting the voucher pool?
autumn swan
I think it might be something with one of the vouchers
The one that uses blanks
I've been meaning to get back into this
So I'll look into it
Maybe hrt has made me a better programmer lol
supple yew
pain
autumn swan
You're telling me lol
proud scarab
afaik the main voucher one is unsolved, but the deck stuffer vouchers have issues when there are no favorite cards (because they were destroyed, or otherwise)
frigid quartz
I just read about this on the Wiki, is the Favorite Sticker added by this mod?
autumn swan
Yes
frigid quartz
What does it do/mean?
toxic pine
oh i think that's the voucher crash issue we've been having
is there a version that doesnt have the issue with the crash? I've been really enjoying roffleatro and want to play more of it.
wheat needle
What does it do/mean?
it means your most played card, it does nothing on its own but some jokers interact with it
supple yew
is there a version that doesnt have the issue with the crash? I've been really e...
the pre-update version doesn't have the crash as far as i can tell
frigid quartz
it means your most played card, it does nothing on its own but some jokers inter...
Thank you
supple yew
@autumn swan any luck with the vouchers?
weary phoenix
I keep randomly getting this crash when beating boss blinds, is there any way to fix?
weary phoenix
Is there anything I can edit in the files to get rid of the voucher crash?
haughty oak
Is speculative Oops a 1 in 2 chance or 1 in 16 I dont understand
haughty oak
Ohh wait it's meant so that if you take an Oops all six's it's guaranteed $16
nocturne hare
<@706083462750404658>
girl I don't understand it either
i have no idea why v is a boolean and i'm afraid to ask
haughty oak
Ok
wheat needle
Is speculative Oops a 1 in 2 chance or 1 in 16 I dont understand
1(1(1(1/2)/2)/2)/2 = 1/16
2(2(2(2/2)/2)/2)/2 = 16/16
its 1 in 16 unless you have oops in which case its guaranteed
weary phoenix
@nocturne hare i found a bug with the high stake deck. when starting a new run the winning ante is set to 12 like normal but if you do a new run again (without losing i think) the winnin ante sets itself to 8 again and winning ante 8 counts as stake completion
haughty oak
does buddy do anything other than just being there?
i see he says 'to the moon!' sometimes
but does that do anything
autumn swan
does buddy do anything other than just being there?
No
He can hold editions tho
So if he's negative he actively adds a joker slot
Which is arguably his best use
haughty oak
spunchbop crying emoticon
proud scarab
temperance value wooo
weary phoenix
how long until the voucher bug gets fixed?
autumn swan
how long until the voucher bug gets fixed?
I'll try to fix it tomorrow, what exactly is the problem?
weary phoenix
whenever you beat a boss blind or check what vouchers you own, it has a chance to instantly crash the game
weary phoenix
I keep randomly getting this crash when beating boss blinds, is there any way to...
.
thats the error msg^
i think my game has also crashed once from the joker that deletes vouchers from shop permanently
weary phoenix
@autumn swan
autumn swan
I'll look into it
supple yew
no clue 😭
autumn swan
what is .requires
supple yew
you mean in the voucher definition?
that's for the vouchers you need to have redeemed before the voucher is added to the pool
autumn swan
blanket voucher
supple yew
ah
supple yew
ohh wait
i think that's just to check if all vouchers have been redeemed
but hold on it only checks one before returning true
i think it should go like this
nocturne hare
oh my god did i copy it in wrong
autumn swan
im still confused
nocturne hare
it supposed to make a list of used or sliced vouchers
autumn swan
sliced?
supple yew
as in voucher clear'd
nocturne hare
from Voucher Clear
supple yew
ya she did
autumn swan
i just killed them
supple yew
all good haha
it's been quiet for a bit as i've been focusing on a different project with a friend
supple yew
as far as i can tell
now it should go through every single voucher before returning true
and will return false for any non-redeemed or sliced voucher
supple yew
no clue :x
this is a part of the mod i didn't really touch so i can't be of much help soz
supple yew
ya rn we just need to get things working smooth
like fix the crashes and other bugs that pop up
supple yew
gonna be back home from the beach in a couple days, wanna try and get the ball rollin here again
weary phoenix
this crash happened during opening a standard pack so i assume it has nothing to do with the vouchers. I had the joker that gives an extra booster pack slot just for ur awareness. my guess is that the voucher that gives me favorite cards in the booster pack just crashes when the card has a seal or something (it was working before but not anymore
weary phoenix
i feel bad for pinging but hows it going yall @supple yew @nocturne hare
weary phoenix
chat is this mod ever getting fixed
celest hamlet
Let them work on it on their own pace.
maiden breach
one hundred million photochads
supple yew
we've kinda hit a slump sadly, nobody has any idea of what's causing all the issues with the vouchers
weary phoenix
ive discovered that the deck fixing voucher breaks the standard packs
autumn swan
😭
weary phoenix
i think it only breaks them when the "favorite card" has a seal or something on it
autumn swan
Fffffffffuuck
weary phoenix
but my run bricked after i opened a standard pack after picking up the voucher
autumn swan
I'll see if I get motivated to figure this out
weary phoenix
is there a way to just take out the additional vouchers and just play the mod with the jokers until the fix?
weary phoenix
another little bug i found: when the "main channel" joker procs, it adds a new stat to all negative jokers called "Card Limit: X.XX area slots" (the x's are numbers). Unfortunately if you sell or get rid of any of these negatives you actually just permanently lost all of your joker slots
an example of the new stat
not sure if it's an intended feature, but the main channel joker also multiplies sell values
and for some reason it affects the mime even though its effect doesnt state a number. the description doesnt change
sacred shuttle
this is due to smods, not Rofflatro, unfortunately
autumn swan
?????
What in the
Huh
Damn it smods
I think ik how to fix this
I just need to find the variable name for the card lim stat
weary phoenix
for the main channel joker, do you hard code all of the changes to every joker or do you kinda just look for numbers in a jokers description and multiply the numbers
it might take a while but just hard coding the main channel's effect onto all applicable jokers would probably fix the issue
i dont know a whole lot about coding so mb if i sound stupid
autumn swan
for the main channel joker, do you hard code all of the changes to every joker o...
So jokers have a table with all of their values in it
And main channel goes through them
It uses an exclude list to determine weather or not to multiply
weary phoenix
is it ur intent to have it work on jokers like mime?
or only jokers with actual stated number values
autumn swan
Number values only
autumn swan
The wording of the joker implies numbers
Hmmm
Well
It isn't hard for me to add exceptions
Like I think camp fire has one
Same with punch card
I just check the key of the joker
And apply things accordingly
I hate that I let this mod go
I need to get back into it
I think it tries to do to much
weary phoenix
well i think the main big rock that you have with this mod is the favorite card system
and i suppose the vouchers seem to cause too much trouble for the gameplay that they add
but i do really like the attempt at making naneinf more possible
im not gonna tell you how to design ur game, but i dont think the deck fixing vouchers (both tiers) make fixing the deck actually a whole lot better
autumn swan
Yeah
weary phoenix
cuz adding cards to the deck makes it harder to find other cards
autumn swan
Plus they break with multiplayer
weary phoenix
and the favorite card system currently doesnt really work with blue and purple seals (which are good to have for deck fixing) cuz you dont wanna play those
autumn swan
Hmmmm
weary phoenix
if you wanted to keep the voucher, instead of having the "favorite card" system i would suggest just making it pick a random card from ur deck and just having that available in packs/shop
weary phoenix
if you wanted to keep the voucher, instead of having the "favorite card" system ...
to elaborate, a system like this would make the voucher a lot less useful at the start, but as you fix ur deck the voucher would help you snowball into getting a lot of the same card
autumn swan
I like this
weary phoenix
like if you naturally started making a ton of purple seals in ur deck the voucher would start having an increasing chance of adding those same purples to the shop/packs
it would select a random card from ur deck similarly to the idol to add to the shop/packs
as for the voucher that boosts collecting a lot of vouchers im not sure it adds a whole lot to the game
the tier 1 is pretty ok at giving you +mult at the start of the game but i doubt the tier 2 makes a difference in ante 39 runs (the only instance id assume it would have an effect since you need to collect blanks)
anyways aside from the crashing i enjoy the mod so ill occasionally just be playing and find stuff for you
solid condor
@autumn swan Idea: Put the big negative tag onto the soul layer
Oh, also, bluestorm causes the counter to deplete
autumn swan
@weary phoenix @solid condor make sure to put these problems in the issues part of the repo
Allows us to keep track
weary phoenix
Okie
weary phoenix
with my 25x baron i was able to get an early naneinf
main channel joker on streamer deck op
ebon tundra
Idk if I’d exactly call ante 27 an early naninf haha
I mean for one thing youre closer to ante 39 than you are to 1 at that point
weary phoenix
i consider it early cuz i filtered for perkeo on vanilla and i barely failed using flush 5 with observatory
so the fact i hit naneinf with such ease (and it wasnt a temporary naneinf like baron mime burglar) i thought it was cool
ebon tundra
Round 82 not that early but I get ur point
solid condor
I was expecting free negatives. This negative is not free
nocturne hare
okay so
i've been reading the code again
and i still have NO CLUE what is happening to the vouchers
autumn swan
I was thinking about removing them
nocturne hare
migvt as well yeah
bit dissapointing but oh well
specifically the favourite card one is broken
supple yew
yall ive been going thru this again and i think progress is being made
deckfixer no longer crashes if you have no favorites, plus favorites are calculated better now so you 100% will have at least 1 favorite when going into a shop
but then at the end of the round when trying to fetch new vouchers we get this shit again
so yeah who added a boolean to the voucher pool
or rather what
okay i see it now
hopefully this fixes it
okay it doesn't crash anymore
AM I AWESOME OR WHAT=?!?!?
anyway
maybe there's no need to delete the vouchers now
cos i'm 20 antes deep into a heavily modded run with coupon bonding and deck fixer redeemed and i don't have any other issues
@autumn swan @nocturne hare wake up it's time to grind again
autumn swan
Lmk what you want me to work on
I don't have as much time as I used to but Ill do what I can
supple yew
i think what we need rn is to
- go thru the open issues in the repo
- implement the stuff in the doc
- possibly come up with more stuff so we have a nice round 45 jokers for next big update and some other stuff
nocturne hare
Vanilla Sundae
+3 Chips for every vanilla joker at the end of the Boss Blind
free negatives synergy
though uh. it's literally nothing
woeful socket
Vanilla Sundae
+3 Chips for every vanilla joker at the end of the Boss Blind
f...
That sounds fun
supple yew
Vanilla Sundae
+3 Chips for every vanilla joker at the end of the Boss Blind
f...
cooking?
supple yew
nope!
that's funny cuz i feel like most people overlook it
but when making it i was like "40 bucks per lucky card hit? that's sick"
well money hit
nocturne hare
do we want to add boss blinds?
prime wren
i got this error after trying to use the o7 joker with a high card 6 on streamer deck on ante 3 round 8; may have been due to the other mods i had loaded, but lost my file so cant confirm
been having fun with this mod so far though!
nocturne hare
i got this error after trying to use the o7 joker with a high card 6 on streamer...
Rofflatro breaks with Talisman
this is a standard Talisman bork
nocturne hare
cooking?
here‘s a few more i‘ve been sitting on
Claw (Common) // StS reference
+3 Mult / Increases by 2 Mult per hand played / Resets at the end of round
Calling Bell (Uncommon) // StS reference
+3 consumable slots / Creates 9 Debuffed cards when obtained
Pachinko (Rare) // Ballionare reference
Earn $2 for each Joker sold / 1 in 2 chance to gain x0.2 Mult for each Joker bought / (Currently X1.0 Mult)
nocturne hare
Seedling (Common)
Does nothing?
-# (Patience is a virtue.)
// the actual joker is When the first Boss Blind that only spawns after Ante 2 is beaten, this Joker permanently becomes an effect.
// the joke is that Seedling is incredibly dependent on your seed. seeded runs when, streamer? of course getting the boss reroll vouchers makes this really good
// kinda sucks to hold? especially if the boss blind you get doesn’t have an effect that contributes to your build, so that‘s why this is a Common joker
// effect should be better as it gets harder for your first 3+ Boss Blind to be one that spawns at a higher Ante
The Eye (Ante 3)
-# Gains +3 Mult when a unique hand type is played this ante / (Currently +0 Mult) // Kinda slow, and hard to scale, so +3 Mult should be OK. Compare with Spare Trousers, which is a lot easier.
The Tooth (Ante 3)
-# Earn $1 for each card without an Enhancement or Seal scored // Pretty solid Econ all things considered, but you get it after encountering the Tooth. Tough!
The Plant (Ante 4)
-# Played Face Cards gain +15 Chips // Reward for beating The Plant is solid Chips joker for your Photochad :)
The Serpent (Ante 5)
-# After Discard, always draw 4 cards (ignores hand size) // The funny NaNinf setup...
The Ox (Ante 5)
-# Playing your most played five-card hand that contains a creates a copy of a Favourite card // Cooler DNA
Amber Acorn (Boss Blind)
-# Played cards go back into your deck // Swag
Verdant Leaf (Boss Blind)
-# Sell this card to get 2 Negative Seedlings // Swag
Violet Vessel (Boss Blind)
-# At Ante 39 and above, this Joker becomes Negative and Eternal. The score requirement is set to Ante 38’s. When ante is beaten, this Joker duplicates itself and destroys a non-Seedling Joker. // True Endless mode
Crimson Heart (Boss Blind)
-# +1 card, Booster Pack, and Voucher in the shop // Swag
Cereulean Bell (Boss Blind)
-# Negative Jokers appear more often in the shop // Swag
if AlrexX thinks this cool i will promise to code everything myself LMAO
supple yew
it's simply peak
go for it @nocturne hare ima add these ideas to the doc
i can work on some of the simpler ones
nocturne hare
this is actually just me coding 10 jokers at once
supple yew
oo and maybe a challenghe or deck could have you starting with an eternal seedling or something
supple yew
this is actually just me coding 10 jokers at once
yea p much LOL
one thing i think we could implement is more on scoring stuff
like sevens suck
i think we could change the effects of one or two jokers in the doc
maybe we could turn this into a xMult on scoring effect to make stone builds more viable :L
nocturne hare
maybe we could turn this into a xMult on scoring effect to make stone builds mor...
oo yeah
im ngl we have so much econ already 💀
supple yew
yea LOL
nocturne hare
okay before i code i think i need to actually test themod for balance feel
nocturne hare
man i love this game
supple yew
holy W
nocturne hare
ante 2 btw
we love highscoring deck here
ooh i feel like in-n-out is weirdly good
compared to cat ears
interesting.
ok compared to ice cream too lol
supple yew
can get nerfed perhapsably
nocturne hare
WHAT
nocturne hare
i negative tag skipped just to speed up the game 😭
holy heck
ok now i have 72 dollars
i love this game
oh highscoring deck doesn’t. work
oops!
surely this will fix everything
nocturne hare
btw Murphy and Nice are kinda boring together
why don’t we make Murphy more interesting
supple yew
yea, idk how tho
maybe destroying 9s specifically gives you money or score or a consumable
nocturne hare
maybe destroying 9s specifically gives you money or score or a consumable
what if we ask murphy xd
prime wren
Rofflatro breaks with Talisman
ahh, gotcha!
had a lot of fun using the negative tag joker last night; got up to 41 jokers lol
love that it works with blueprint/brainstorm
supple yew
ahh, gotcha!
i recommend cdataman, it's a talisman fork that has way less compatibility issues with most mods
supple yew
what if we ask murphy xd
i mean if we got a way to contact him that would be cool
supple yew
trying new art for never punished
autumn swan
trying new art for never punished
:(
nocturne hare
trying new art for never punished
we have like 4 arts for Never Punished now
lmao. lol
supple yew
it‘s. so difficult to actually scale
should we just expand it to be a random hand picked from every unlocked hand
nocturne hare
should we just expand it to be a random hand picked from every unlocked hand
maybe just like. hands that have been played before?
type a joker picks above flush, right?
then do hands that have been played before above that
supple yew
ah
what if somehow you haven't played any hands greater than 3oak
does it just default to flush
nocturne hare
does it just default to flush
prolly
nocturne hare
getting back into balatro modding is going swimmingly, why do you ask⸮
supple yew
uh oh!
nocturne hare
??? how do i get a nat negative pivot when i‘m debugging 😭
nocturne hare
supple yew
it's perfect
woeful socket
Are you still looking for testers?
nocturne hare
oh yeah. it‘s all coming together
woeful socket
Seems like it
supple yew
Seems like it
yea you can just download it from the repo in the OP
supple yew
hell yeah
nocturne hare
the joker art auto changes
they even get different names
the art is temporary i guess
supple yew
wait the name thing is so fire
nocturne hare
this is all one joker
supple yew
you are cooking so much rn
nocturne hare
i should probably make actual art for the different flowers
foggy cove
surely this will fix everything
Hi, as you can imagine this was setting the Ante to 12 every ante. Since I was using other mods that also increase the blind size, it was always returning to 12. I'm not a modder but decided to give it a try and I fixed it.
nocturne hare
Hi, as you can imagine this was setting the Ante to 12 every ante. Since I was u...
uhhh sure.
supple yew
Hi, as you can imagine this was setting the Ante to 12 every ante. Since I was u...
if you'd like, you can create a pull request in the repository so we can add your fix!
still trying to think of a new effect for murph
wait maybe it should be a +chips joker
because chip
supple yew
also here's an idea i had
https://github.com/MamiKeRiko/Rofflatro/tree/wave4jonklers here we- here we go!
nocturne hare
okay this might need a nerf 😭
did you just make uberfast fast chips via rerolling
supple yew
yea now its just jokers lmao
nocturne hare
yea now its just jokers lmao
okay do
so
anaglyph
mega buffoon pack
or
free joker tag
lmao this is the best chip joker ever
supple yew
lmfao
foggy cove
if you'd like, you can create a pull request in the repository so we can add you...
It seems to be working perfectly but since this is my first time I'll make sure I didn't break anything else, and then I'll send the PR
nocturne hare
wtf is this HSD start lmao
foggy cove
@supple yew Caught another minor bug and sent the fix as well
urban arrow
peak
solid condor
Stupid idea: Make Space Joker always trigger when "put in its place"
Funnier idea:
Jury Duty
Makes Space Joker
always trigger when
placed to the
left of this Joker
[Common]
[Rofflatro]
spare island
i finally found it
supple yew
Funnier idea:
## Jury Duty
Makes Space Joker
always trigger when
placed to the
l...
could expand to just any probability based joker but that would be kinda busted
especially with jokers like main channel LOL
ebon sigil
took me a while but my runs of rofflatro are up in #🎥・videos-and-streams. Was a ton of fun, great job to everyone that worked on it!
autumn swan
took me a while but my runs of rofflatro are up in <#1117847236899000361>. Was a...
Thank you so much for taking a look at our mod!
high atlas
was wanting to see this deck ability because i want to change the spawn rates of jokers in the shop in a different mod. does this seriously just have no code to change the rates LOL
autumn swan
was wanting to see this deck ability because i want to change the spawn rates of...
I think that's handled with an injection/patch
high atlas
I think that's handled with an injection/patch
ahh ok, wasnt sure but i did think it was hilarious if the rates werent actually changed and it was just streamer luck
ohh yeah i see the patch
thank you
crisp mortar
Hi so the streamer luck deck is causing a stack overflow whenever you go into the shop, just wanted to point out this bug
Newest smods, lovely, Rofflatro versions
autumn swan
Huh
woeful socket
I think that's handled with an injection/patch
Girl we need another Perkolator mod from you but with another Vanilla legendary
nocturne hare
Streamer Luck deck will not stackoverflow unless another mod is conflicting with the rarities
solid condor
@autumn swan Maybe Triboulet stuff?
autumn swan
Jonkler
solid condor
solid condor
Streamer Luck deck will not stackoverflow unless another mod is conflicting with...
It stack overflows w/o any other mods
nocturne hare
balala
heavy vine
uh hello. I hope this is the right thread to post this. I want to play the rofflatro mod. I cleared the first small blind, but the game immediately crashes and I need to restart the game. I was playing on streamer deck.
Please let me know if this is the wrong thread for this question
autumn swan
uh hello. I hope this is the right thread to post this. I want to play the roffl...
Please provide the crash screen
heavy vine
I'm going to try to screen record what happened
So I don't get a crash screen, It just goes straight to my desktop homescreen
nocturne hare
So I don't get a crash screen, It just goes straight to my desktop homescreen
do you have any other mods installed?
oh wait yeah this is a known bug ig