Rofflatro, the Roffle Mod (BETA) - looking for testers!

[supple yew]

iunno

maybe having it be bp compat is too much

[autumn swan]

I think the value table is the only way to fix it

Practically anyway

If you want I can give it a shot eventually

Problem is I'm going on vacation for a bit so I'll be away from my pc

[supple yew]

yea that's cool

you can fork the playground branch and check it out there

[autumn swan]

Ill add it to rofflelatro-un

[supple yew]

aite

btw

[autumn swan]

I don't see why not

It's pretty stable imo

And I uncooked voucher clear

[supple yew]

yea like i said most big issues are taken care of

[autumn swan]

I don't really forsee any problems from here

Ill see if I can take my 4gb ram celron laptop that runs arch and get it to at least test the mod

I can't wait for my framework 12 to come in

[supple yew]

think i cooked with this desc for the index

now just gotta make a thumbnail and we good to pr

[autumn swan]

The Roffel face by itself is in the sprite sheet if you want it

[supple yew]

trueee that's perfect

[frail schooner]

do we have any viewer based jokers

[supple yew]

we do have references to jake and bajabussyblaster lul

mod indexs pr is ready i am now going to go collapse in my bed

this is the thumbnail i made because it's 2 am and i am going to die

[nocturne hare]

oh wait no

also no

this is thing has transparency

[nocturne hare]

new pull for hearthstone and money shots

[nocturne hare]

jackin it is kinda garbage

[nocturne hare]

here's a thumbnail

[supple yew]

wogh

i shouldv used that

[supple yew]

it used to be super op then it got nerfed

[nocturne hare]

:)

i love anaglyph

[nocturne hare]

ye but i feel like bus scales easier

ig deck fix ing

[autumn swan]

Oh shit

Voucher clear isn't formatted for blueprint

[supple yew]

oop

[autumn swan]

Try not to forget blueprint exists challenge (level impossible)

actaully

ill leave it

because cola works the same way

[nocturne hare]

make sure blueprint_compat is true then

[autumn swan]

@supple yew im looking at just get chips and dont thik it works

[supple yew]

what the

did i fuck it up

[autumn swan]

No matter what I do it doesn't work

[supple yew]

it used to work fine

[autumn swan]

For some reason ret is nil

[supple yew]

how

that's messed up

[autumn swan]

I have no idea

[supple yew]

i cant check rn cos im touching grass but i'll be back home in a few

[autumn swan]

How dare you/j

All good

[nocturne hare]

pull the excom and engagement whilst your at it

actually i have two prs

[supple yew]

oh i thought i merged them already

hold on i'll be home soon

[nocturne hare]

actually on the excom pr just get chips just crashes on arrowhead, so this isn't as simple as merging ig

how? idk

still doesn't work either

you probably just fixed just get chips after i made the branch 🫠

[supple yew]

might need to just like

completely rework just get chips

lil bit problematic rn

[nocturne hare]

oh wait alex joker playground actually did the pr

My Bad

[supple yew]

yea i thought so

[nocturne hare]

just forgor to delete the branch

[supple yew]

all g

[nocturne hare]

i think we should make a 1.1.1

[supple yew]

actually yea theres been a couple extra changes since that release from yesterday

[nocturne hare]

as in, 1

[supple yew]

yea LOL

[nocturne hare]

(money shots and hearthstone)

[supple yew]

yea thanks for handling those

gonna nab the money shots code for cat food

[nocturne hare]

i can't believe we completely forogor

forogoro

[supple yew]

gimmie 3 seconds and i'll set up a new release

btw we got added to the index already

so you can grab the mod from the mod loader now instead of having to find the repo

we do have to set up releases so updates come thru

it grabs the latest release so that no one grabs a broken dev version or smn

[nocturne hare]

i updated the changelog

two additional changes

spec oops $16 seems pretty powerful but the math should check out

[supple yew]

can't believe i missed those

[nocturne hare]

btw, well met really should be buffed

it's just funny uncommon photograph

favourites held in hand are annoying af because yknow. you can't play them

it's just photograph with no retriggers 😔

X2 Mult kinda bad

hi something com

[supple yew]

could remove the 1 card limitation and reduce the mult per card

[nocturne hare]

1.5x?

then again actually getting many favourite cards is also very interesting gameplay

[nocturne hare]

pushed

it's 1.3x

because baron is 1.5x

well ig baron is so much easier to use

maybe 1.5x is fine

ughhh playtest time

[supple yew]

yeup

[autumn swan]

Hey what if we made chips retigger chip jokers

[nocturne hare]

so pain

what if we made just get chips... move base chips into the mult

35 x 4 level 1 straight? no, it's a 0 x 39 level straight now. just get chips

[nocturne hare]

my conclusion is that favourites make your playstyle so picky that 1.5x is reasonable

because somehow this is actually secretly obelisk

> new joker
> looks inside
> obelisk

alright, assuming you're playing idk. flushes

8 hand size so that's only 3 favourites if you're really lucky

that's like x2 mult

garbo

1.5x per is 3x mult

this is kinda like Blackboard, which i'd say is very uncommon

but

blackboard is easy compared to this bastard

actually 3oak is good with this joker

yeah but held in hand. ..

okay, 1.6x

that's a whopping 10x mult with 3oak but i guess it only activates for on scoring jokers

good with lucky cards thou

oh

lucky card buff #23

okay it has been pushed!!

[supple yew]

1.1.1 release made

[autumn swan]

:O

[autumn swan]

I just hope chips isn't another voucher clear

[supple yew]

happy gay month

[nocturne hare]

the gayest dev team in balala modding

[gentle basin]

no that's #💻・modding-dev

[autumn swan]

this mod is so silly

very much develped by gay people

[terse knot]

Just thought of a joker, those little information pop up for the joker’s ability, not fully a suggestion, just a thought lol

[autumn swan]

Mmmmm

Sounds cool

[cinder sonnet]

Was just playing & I got what would doc do out of riff-raff

lmao

[supple yew]

HOW

[autumn swan]

Isn't he a rare jerker

[cinder sonnet]

yeah

yet he popped right out of riff raff

I wish I took a screenshot

[nocturne hare]

chat's not going to notice

so much gre en..

actually i forgot i needed to make this wild card compat for a silly wild card buff

[supple yew]

grn

[nocturne hare]

is this "gm" but you dropped a knifw on the poor m

[nocturne hare]

hmm maybe Never Punished should be tweaked

ill think about it

[autumn swan]

The art or the function

[nocturne hare]

function, but the art probably too

[autumn swan]

Whatcha thinkin

[nocturne hare]

i'm thinking

• make it all blinds sellable
• make it not an "on sell" effect, we already have a lot of temporary jokers

[autumn swan]

Maybe like "when all discards used 1 in x chance“

[nocturne hare]

well making it a chance feels like it's Sometimes Punished

[autumn swan]

Yeah

[nocturne hare]

If score greater than 80% of requirement and final hand with no discards

in other news i figured out how to make joker pages

[autumn swan]

I wonder if we can make it so that the glass card will break gaurteed on use

Basically it's unlimited glass

But no glass

[nocturne hare]

prolly could yeah

we just mark it and then destroy it right?

[autumn swan]

Make a rigged seal or something

[nocturne hare]

no i mean we can do it without any seals or stuff

just do it in destroying_card

[nocturne hare]

@supple yew

not supposed to be a rare

oops

this is actually an awful "econ" joker because it gives you literally no money lol

just interest

cap

actually this is solely good for deck fixing

which is funny

[nocturne hare]

im so interestpilled

[autumn swan]

Wait that thing would suck with doc

[nocturne hare]

yup

you can have a little antisynergy, as a treat

considering i have smeared and spawned diamonds ante 1 this isn't exactly depictive of strength

im on ante 6 btw

alright ante 8 +17

interesting

maybe this could be every 7

[supple yew]

perhaps...

[nocturne hare]

pr done

[supple yew]

woh

are u sure we should push all of this to main

[nocturne hare]

lmao i was like OOPS

my quicktime event to switch it to the alex playground failed you noticed my mistake ...

[supple yew]

rip LOL

aite merged

gonna change it to just joker playground since im not the only one using it

[nocturne hare]

considering we have 2 lucky card jokers

we should probably have at least one for the other enhancements

tbh money shots is somewhat uninteresting. it would be funnier if it had a 1 in 3 chance to spawn The Magician

@autumn swan

[autumn swan]

It disappeared for me lol

[supple yew]

wa

discord being discord

[autumn swan]

This is what I end up doing instead of making jokers

[nocturne hare]

hehehhehe more jokers for me

but fr though i feel like i needed to pull some more weight after how many jokers you and alrex did compared to me last time lol

[autumn swan]

https://youtu.be/IRYF6ea1Zsk?si=dhKfahId9YoVu3lP

SECOND VID

[spiral talon]

currently watching

[celest hamlet]

He put the modded jonklers in the display boxes in the video, which I remember him being conflicted about

I gotta say, this one seems pretty strong. Might be better off as a Rare.

If for no other reason than being completely busted on Ghost Deck or if you find 6th Sense/Seance and a Perkeo.

IDK

I'm not a game designer

I guess that relative strength is pretty well balanced by the fact that spectral cards are pretty hard to get in any other circumstances

Still

Very strong if you can feed it.

[autumn swan]

I'll see if I can knock out some jokers here soon

[celest hamlet]

Id love to see if you can make one about The White Shirt

[nocturne hare]

the balance in question is that it has a spawn condition

this is just like Cavendish. the rarity is due to the condition

[celest hamlet]

Ah

What's the condition?

[nocturne hare]

create a spectral from séance

which means

1. acquiring séance (rofflatro has so many uncommons this is more difficult than you'd think)
2. playing straight flush (hard)

[celest hamlet]

Oh, so it's impossible, then

[nocturne hare]

exactly!

making it a rare would be kinda rude tbh

[nocturne hare]

???

[autumn swan]

What joker is this lol

[nocturne hare]

grimbo. it's YOU

[autumn swan]

Lol

[nocturne hare]

🫵

[autumn swan]

I figured as much

To be fair

It works

[nocturne hare]

donks you on the head

[autumn swan]

Whatttt

How should I have done it

Ig I could have put the dollars*-1 in the return

[nocturne hare]

you could've just done -c.a.e.dollars

[autumn swan]

I don't want to talk about it

[nocturne hare]

donks you at the shind

shins. shins

[autumn swan]

At least it doesn't crash the game

[nocturne hare]

😭

[supple yew]

dollars = (card.ability.extra.dollars)/ROFF.const.MINUSONE

[nocturne hare]

LMAO

[autumn swan]

Yk what

I'm going into grimbo and using that variable as an opportunity to put another ultrakill reference in the code

[nocturne hare]

LMAO

[autumn swan]

Hear me out

Roffle dating sim

April fools

[nocturne hare]

it's not april

[supple yew]

i know what we're doin next year

[autumn swan]

What are we doing

Do I need to start learning love2d

[supple yew]

[supple yew]

imagine this + canio + pareidolia + oops

massacre build

[ocean silo]

Ima try that level rw

Rq

[autumn swan]

Good luck

[ocean silo]

It's fine

I like the game

I only play ultrakill and balatro

Wish me luck on brutal, not standard

[supple yew]

https://github.com/MamiKeRiko/Rofflatro/issues/46 gotta look into this

talisman still being a bitchass ho

wait does the latest release contain the talisman compat fix

maybe it doesn't

ykw since cani also did some balancing we can push another small release

[nocturne hare]

i find it so funny that thumbnail was just straight up worse joker stencil

like. no way...

so it's common now because we need commons, and it's a really decent common instead of dogwater uncommon yknow

crashout buff was because i felt like crashout was more deserving of uncommon at its speed

and well i'd like to avoid 1000 uncommons

this commenter has a point

you know i've seen some :blunder: comments but i feel like roffle's chat is actually decent at balatro enough to have some :good_move:

[supple yew]

sometimes even :brilliant:

[nocturne hare]

honestly maybe a7x can be common

it's uncommon now right? yeah it's not worth it

[supple yew]

my logic was it scales twice as fast as pants with a harder scale condition

in testing chasing 2pairs/full houses made it somewhat devent

[nocturne hare]

the thing about it is that it doesn't have much synergy

[supple yew]

i guess

[nocturne hare]

yeah i noticed this but i feel like on full house builds it overstays its welcome a bit

plus deckfixing is hardddd

you'd have to get a7x early to even know to start deckfixing

[supple yew]

could demote it then

[nocturne hare]

the question is whether to make it +3 mult when demoted

it's no Bus or Jackin' It in easiness

[supple yew]

yea

getting it early could be big

but otherwise it's ehh

if you wanna do a sevens build it could be a way to prepare for that

random thought but what if we had a joker that retriggers favorite cards

still tryna find more synergies with that sticker

[nocturne hare]

honestly we really need like

10 jokers about favourite cards

it feels so bad for it to be just on well met

actually

i think 4 mult is good

even for a common

because red card is +3 right?

[supple yew]

yea

not too far fetched

[nocturne hare]

bonk it to be $6 so it's like fortune teller

oh it's already $6

well

[supple yew]

well met

still gotta do those vouchers

gah this class is so boring i wanna get on my home pc and do shit

okay i changed this one

i think it's still okay to be common but should we remove the 10 card limit

[nocturne hare]

i've been talking about making Never Punished not an on sell joker

i think kali's, looks inside, and voucher clear are :thunking: game design

looks inside and kali's makes sense to be on sell but voucher clear and never punished might be better off to not be on sell

maybe voucher clear can clear vouchers not bought at end of shop, which gives it a sort of risk

never punished really could be just add insta-break glass cards if final hand of round though

i think that's a 1.2.0 situation to figure out

[supple yew]

yea i do love both those ideas tho

esp voucher clear

makes it a lot more strategic

im not even sure this makes sense i just think it's a crime we don't have a glasses joker yet

card art could be that one anime trope where a character pushes their glasses in and the lenses go white

type shit

[nocturne hare]

LOL

i never really realise how often chat's been screaming about symmetry

[supple yew]

oh my god you're so right

[nocturne hare]

what if joker. where symmetry

so chat's happy

[supple yew]

yes

[nocturne hare]

it's hard to pull off so maybe it could be a powerful common

[supple yew]

reminds me of the ocd joker from yahiamod

that also works off of joker order

[nocturne hare]

stupid idea "equalises hands and discards"

that's not powerful at all but maybe if jokers are symmetric it does something extra

[supple yew]

if leftmost and rightmost joker are the same when selecting a blind, gain 2 hands

uh

im not sure actually

gain 1 discard after playing a hand?

[supple yew]

something along these lines

maybe they both are set to the max of the two

like if you have 5 hands and 2 discards it gives you 3 more discards

that might be insane for gold stake

maybe just average rounded down instead

[nocturne hare]

i can actually detect true symmetry

only joker wise though if editions are into this code's gonna get long

[nocturne hare]

not really? i think hands are actually the weakest stat in the game

ig the discards are useful but having even duplicate jokers is hard

[supple yew]

i mean i was thinking just bypassing the joker symmetry since it's so hard to achieve but i guess that would be lame

[nocturne hare]

seance 2

seance awards strong thing with hard effect but honestly spectrals aren't useful

and duplicate jokers is harder than playing a straight flush

so if we were going to make it force symmetry we need to make it actually good somehow

funny idea would be "claim a voucher when blind selected" or something

[supple yew]

thing is when you have symmetric jokers it's a guaranteed hit

[nocturne hare]

yeah

[supple yew]

that would be insane

[nocturne hare]

i hate you, magic trick

make it blueprintable 💀

[supple yew]

claims 3 blanks because i already have all vouchers

[nocturne hare]

i had an idea for my own mod to make a voucher that's like

what was it hold on

Blanket Coupon
Only appears in shop if no other voucher sets obtainable
Future Blanks add +20 Mult

Blanket Statement
Only appears in shop if no other voucher sets obtainable
Future Blanks add +10X Mult

now THIS is endless balancing lmfao

[supple yew]

LOL

thats kinda fire actually

[nocturne hare]

at the time i was like "voucher tag naneinf. how?"

i don't think this has a place in my mod but it would be incredibly funny her

e

[supple yew]

perfect

to the doc it goes

[nocturne hare]

we can rename it my mod just needs everything to start with B

[supple yew]

B ounti

[nocturne hare]

i have no dumb naming restriction here i have all the power

full

[supple yew]

i do like the current names

[nocturne hare]

50% off on all blankets!

not really roffle related. unless it's a vod sleeper joke

oh my god

autocorrect corrects joke to joker

[supple yew]

WAIT YOU'RE A GENIUS

[nocturne hare]

actually maybe i just wanted Blanks to do something because they start with B

hm ...

[nocturne hare]

the only thing i'm worried about is how easy this is to get

but i'm confident roffle has the ability to get a million vouchers in endless anyway

this + excommunication requires some hints though

fun fact in Engagement our helpful commenter is speaking morse code

[supple yew]

holy

[nocturne hare]

i'm hoping chat sees it and translates it

it should say "seance has a secret"

[supple yew]

perfect

they're definitely gonna translate it

qr code moment

we could go on some arg shit

[nocturne hare]

exactly! it's also... engagement

ba dum tsss

[supple yew]

genius

[nocturne hare]

i did take a crappy screenshot of it in game and made sure the code is visible

scuffed but it should be

[supple yew]

does voucher clear mark vouchers it deletes as redeemed?

[nocturne hare]

lemme check

doesnt look like it

we shouldn't mark as redeemed though makes less sense to see it as redeemed in game

just mark it as cleared

somewhere

[supple yew]

fair enough

new table in G.GAME

or just check the voucher spawn pool

also new voucher clear effect desc: when exiting big blind shop, permanently removes any vouchers left in the shop

something like that

[nocturne hare]

for big blind? :thunk "

[supple yew]

thonk

idk i want it to be possible to take a buncha voucher tags into the big blind shop and then massacre all the vouchers

[nocturne hare]

oh

i thought it was because the voucher changes after beating boss blind

[supple yew]

that too

it also punishes you for skipping the big blind specifically i guess

[nocturne hare]

well no it gives a reason to skip big blind if small blind shows something like antimatter and you're in debt 1000

[supple yew]

big brain

didnt think of it like that

im actually a genius i just dont know it yet

[nocturne hare]

it's voucher risk management simulator

which is really funny you never think about buying vouchers to be risky

-# unless its magic trick

[supple yew]

i hate you magic trick

[nocturne hare]

Magic 8 Ball
Played Favourite 8s have a 1 in 4 chance to create another Favourite 8

[supple yew]

dear god

[nocturne hare]

you can smell my british colony from that favourite

[supple yew]

colours...

it's probably common right

like it's DNA but it fucking sucks

LOL

[nocturne hare]

8 ball but worse somehow

[supple yew]

unless you have a red seal poly 8

or something

what if we made a joker that retriggers all playing cards that have no retrigger joker that targets them specifically

6-10 and ace

just for the funsies

[nocturne hare]

i'm thinking of a name

bountiful has a joker that gives $X where X is 6-10 exactly because no retriggers

[supple yew]

cross mod synergy is crazy

what if ace of spades reference

[nocturne hare]

ace of spades...

[supple yew]

heard him make that joke a couple times

like themotorhead song

[nocturne hare]

roffle makes so many jokes that fly over most chatters

the average Arrested Development reference only 2 people get

[supple yew]

i never get those cos i haven't watched the show lmao

[nocturne hare]

i only watched like

[supple yew]

there's always money in the banana pack ....

[nocturne hare]

one season

wow wikipedia

[supple yew]

whoopsies

[nocturne hare]

[121][122][123] is insane actually

like 3 hit combo "reruns suck"

[nocturne hare]

actually would kali's be funnier as a madness? who knows

ceremonial dagger core

[supple yew]

oh god

i think it's fine as is LOL

madness mode would be too terrifying to be a worthy pickup

[nocturne hare]

yeah tbf i like the idea of it being on sell

[nocturne hare]

maybe kali is terrifying /j

[supple yew]

the one thing that sucks about kali is if you have a set in stone joker setup and then get it from like a judgement you're fucked

unless you can find an useless negative to murder

[nocturne hare]

personally i think every mod needs at least one "fuck you" on sell jokers

[supple yew]

you know what yeah it's really funny

[nocturne hare]

not exactly negative effect but just enough to make it annoying from judgement on some builds

[supple yew]

hey at least it can give you an immolate

[nocturne hare]

hex

[nocturne hare]

this white sticker tells a story

[supple yew]

hex yeah

what the

WAIT LOL

that's fucking hilarious

[nocturne hare]

INSTANT DECKFIXING DESTROYAL

[supple yew]

imagine riff raff giving you this shit

[nocturne hare]

i mean this joker is a meme but also actually carries you ante 1 and 2

also it's good vampire food i guess

[supple yew]

yea

challenge idea start with 5 copies of beneficiary

[nocturne hare]

i'm 2 months ahead of you

[supple yew]

dang shes good

[nocturne hare]

not exactly 5

[supple yew]

WOW

[nocturne hare]

that's 300 bonus cards

[supple yew]

find hologram and win

[nocturne hare]

well you gotta. sell down first you have 5 joker slots still

[supple yew]

oh shit

find nat negative hologram and win

[nocturne hare]

it actually feels like i'm playing erratic deck here

wait

FUCK EROTIC DECK

[supple yew]

LOL

[nocturne hare]

can we get away with Erratic Literature

surely it's an innocent joker name

[supple yew]

oh we definitely can

[nocturne hare]

spawns The Lovers

[supple yew]

cinema

[nocturne hare]

oh idea

make all enhanced cards also count as wilds

actually that sounds like lovely patch hell

[supple yew]

let's goo quantum enhancements

not really

smods my beloved

[nocturne hare]

oh right

quantum ...

[supple yew]

at least im pretty sure quantum enhancements should make it piece of cake maybe im wrong

[nocturne hare]

we can thunk about it

Bonus Card and Stone Card synergy

maybe you wanna reword this one...

[supple yew]

base chip value?

also

[nocturne hare]

erratica

erratic by itself sounds weird

[supple yew]

true

[nocturne hare]

yknow is this mod extra credit's little sister

significantly less serious but still balanced

maybe we can do mod compat with EC some day

[nocturne hare]

btw getting lucky seems a bit silly

we already have DVD

i think "potential of the run" in the desc is a funnier joke

[supple yew]

that would be awesome

also yea getting lucky isn't super interesting maybe we can come up with a better mechanic for it

[tough grove]

does anyone have the link to roffle playing this mod? I want to watch it if someone has it handy!

[weak sparrow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IRYF6ea1Zsk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DfevlVSrizQ

[nocturne hare]

there's also the livestream vod

[autumn swan]

https://youtu.be/vvVwQAca71M?si=ClYBAsnSdS79LkTu

New one just dropped

[nocturne hare]

you're so fast

[celest hamlet]

Is there a joker based around "Streamer Luck"?

Could do something like +100 Chips any time a chance-based effect succeeds (lucky card proc, glass breaks, business card goes off, etc.)

Wait no, too many chance effects go off after round ends

Hmmm

+2$ every time a chance event succeeds?

Idk, just spitballing

[nocturne hare]

this is kinda what the Streamer Deck is

also kinda what DVD isn't

[celest hamlet]

Hmmm

I get what you're saying

[proud scarab]

idk if its just a 'me' thing since i am new to modding, but the mod immediately crashes when i attempt to load it with lovely lol

[nocturne hare]

you need Steammodded

[supple yew]

he's officially out of footage from the original stream... this must mean the gold stake rofflatro stream is just around the corner

[nocturne hare]

@supple yew

i have no idea how to make "Nice" a joker without being stupid

so here's lesbian colours and this crappy newsletter

we do really need more flat mult so i changed the effect

if i lock in roffle can have the next update by next stream trust

[trim coral]

beautiful.

[supple yew]

nice

-mult might be a bit harsh but it's still a pretty unique mechanic

[nocturne hare]

yeah maybe common

[supple yew]

perfect

[nocturne hare]

$6

because it's really good

common because 6s and 9s are not sustainable good lord

maybe uncommon though

hm

[nocturne hare]

@supple yew moarrrr

[nocturne hare]

couch lounging

tv to the side later

this is for VOD Watchers

[nocturne hare]

folks we are EEPING

[supple yew]

holy fuckin speed

[supple yew]

this is awesome so far too

[nocturne hare]

now am stuck

wha tis food's oc

@autumn swan hey

i guess i can put garb in here too

[autumn swan]

Ig you can use my mc skin

https://namemc.com/profile/UHadMeAtFood.1

[supple yew]

the skin

[autumn swan]

It was custom made by a friend

[supple yew]

looks very gender

[autumn swan]

Ikkk

I love it

Its extra fun with the ultrakill wings on it

[nocturne hare]

now that, is Gender

[nocturne hare]

the gang eeping

this is impossible btw we're all in too many different timezones

[supple yew]

simply create a teleportation device

[autumn swan]

She needs the cat ears

[supple yew]

gato

[nocturne hare]

on it boss

i think this is done

actually... speech marks

yeah

oawww

pr done

[quartz lance]

This seems like it shouldn’t be rare

[quartz lance]

I love the idea but it’s too niche and scales too slowly

[vernal nova]

Mmmmmm how fast does obelisk scale

[quartz lance]

You can’t run

You can’t hide

[nocturne hare]

"it scales slower than obelisk"

[autumn swan]

For me? It doesn't.

[nocturne hare]

i don't even have an obelisk to scale most of the time so i don't have many runs with it

[supple yew]

obelisk is great when you're good at the game. the only problem is most of us suck at the game

[nocturne hare]

btw — i plan to do magic 8 ball, rock hard, and the vouchers, do you have water gun done?

[supple yew]

havent started yet '^^

[nocturne hare]

8ball code done

[nocturne hare]

i just can't believe that we actually managed to make DNA bad

like this is even worse than regular 8 ball

it's so stupid

at least 8 ball gives you death sometimes 😭

[supple yew]

LOL

it's awesome

[nocturne hare]

actually last joker i add maybe not rock hard

we're not beating the obelisk allegations

ill thunk about another favourite sticker joker

[nocturne hare]

Why Don't You Play Them — Rare
Scoring non-Favourite cards permanently gain +15 Mult
Unscoring Favourite cards become scoring and give X1.5 Mult

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

this title is a Scott the Woz reference

maybe i can make a Streamer Cryptid When? joke

i kinda like the idea of a rare mult hiker

the unscoring xmult bit is a bit tacky

[supple yew]

the second half of the effect kinda feels like it defeats the purpose of well met even existing

do like the idea of a mult hiker

[nocturne hare]

this is so silly

jolly even

might make it +5 mult per test first

[nocturne hare]

pushed

now time to voucher it on up i guess

[supple yew]

hoo boy

[autumn swan]

My computer is in one piece again

I'm getting situated in my new living place but I should be up and running soon

[supple yew]

the puter is real

[nocturne hare]

they call her the pewter

[supple yew]

streamer may or may not play el mod again next week... :3

[gentle basin]

look inside voucher which gives you negative photochad

[gentle basin]

its what

[austere heart]

there's already a looks inside joker no

[gentle basin]

yea but like

again

:)

[autumn swan]

well you see i took my pc apart to move it

anow its back together

improved even

[gentle basin]

its

in

one pieve

[supple yew]

it has breached containment

[autumn swan]

So

What joker should I work on

Also I'm finally free of windows defender

No longer will it kill lovely for no reason

[nocturne hare]

i think we're done actually

just waiting on lucky for water gun

[supple yew]

yea my b i've been autisming on some other stuff BUT

today i got time

[nocturne hare]

mediaeval servant taking care of a dog

aw, 'tis tick!

[supple yew]

i have this thing where i start doing random shit instead of focusing on the more important shit 🥲

[autumn swan]

That is so real

Well I'm sorry that I was so absent then lol

[supple yew]

nah u good at least u had a good reason LMAO

ive just been

[supple yew]

hop on gold stake rofflatro stream

[supple yew]

testing time

[latent turtle]

https://www.twitch.tv/roffle/clip/DullJazzySparrowOptimizePrime-8geYfkQ0tLuycMHL
Uranus joker inspiration?

[supple yew]

LOL

beautiful

maybe a joker that spawns a black hole card after a specific requirement

also a7x does nothing rn 😭

help me out here, what happened

wait why are those breaks there

that aint right

[nocturne hare]

oh dear i think i did that for testing

😭 lmfao

[latent turtle]

I also thought of another idea for a joker. Idk if something similar had already been done or not
Compost Pile: scales xmult for every joker that's destroyed, scales +mult for every card that's destroyed
Alternatively, leave the xmult just for compost pile and do a second joker for the +mult called Recycling bin
Not really Roffle related but I wanted to voice it somewhere

[autumn swan]

recycled jokes

this joker gains +3 mult for evry destroyed card and +10 mult for every joker destroyed
-# Do you guys only know 3 jokes?

@supple yew thoughts?

[latent turtle]

I like the flavor text

[autumn swan]

I should setup modded balala

[nocturne hare]

https://www.twitch.tv/roffle/clip/AgitatedAgitatedElkNotATK-bVGsB7GvkmZgHxSB

insane

[nocturne hare]

imo don't reward destroying cards it's already something the player does

[supple yew]

it's beautiful

[supple yew]

visual studio code decided to delete itself from my computer for whatever reason

anyway now that we got 15 new jokers who wanna help with the vouchering

@nocturne hare holup did u say u were looking into trhose already or am i trippin

[supple yew]

btw goated build right here

super fun to just print spectrals to feed excom and hologram

[nocturne hare]

i have the blank one done

[supple yew]

a

[nocturne hare]

the more difficult thing is the in_pool

i'm trying to figure out when to spawn this thing but voucher clear makers this harder

[supple yew]

true :x

[nocturne hare]

p sure this nonsense should work

but i need to remove the voucher itself from the pool of all vouchers

[nocturne hare]

i'm going to add stuff to voucher_clear

this implementation isn't working

yknow we should've done this anyway

it's good practice

[supple yew]

seems sensible (idk how voucher clear was implemented before)

[nocturne hare]

YEAHHHHHHHHH

alright now time to do a full check

this is so stupid

[supple yew]

goto my goato

[autumn swan]

What is goto?

[supple yew]

did the in_pool hack work in the end?=

[supple yew]

basically just tells the code to go straight to ::skip::

or whatever you called the target

[nocturne hare]

yeah

[supple yew]

noice

now for the fave card vouchers

and lowkey that would be good for a content update

like i feel like 15 jokers and new vouchers is plenty

[nocturne hare]

shockingly i don't actually know how to add cards to boosters

somehow i know how to do a myriad of lua shenaniganry but not "add card to booster"

[supple yew]

😭

[nocturne hare]

i'll uh... look at happy birthday

look inside, if you will

[supple yew]

i see what you did there

i was thinking it would be more like telescope tho where the first card in the booster is replaced with whatever favorite card

[nocturne hare]

int everest in G minor

[supple yew]

uat

[nocturne hare]

interesting but i replaced erest and g with expanded forms

[supple yew]

OH

[nocturne hare]

integer everest inside G minor

[nocturne hare]

voucher .

[supple yew]

FIREE

[supple yew]

wait are u doing the art as well or

cos i could help out if need be

[nocturne hare]

yeah help me out with the favourite one

[supple yew]

okidoke

i did have an idea already

[nocturne hare]

template

[supple yew]

awesomesauce

[nocturne hare]

with some trial and error (i did not local correctly in patch) both the vouchers work

[supple yew]

oh it's beautiful

...meanwhile i'm over here struggling to draw a hand in thunk style

[nocturne hare]

"Casually fix Illusion, just because we can!" gotta be the best comment of all time

[supple yew]

FR

[nocturne hare]

(this makes Illusion have booster pack level odds)

(also Illusion no seal bug has been fixed)

by bug i mean thunk just. Forgor

[supple yew]

classic thunk

[nocturne hare]

also the appear in shop voucher requires Magic Trick

[supple yew]

yea that makes sense

[nocturne hare]

because we prolly don't want to override magic trick

this actually makes a weird thing where Illusion and Deck Stuffer combo can improve your copied cards

i did it like that because it would be actually funny to have a good magic trick combo

[supple yew]

yeah i was gonna say that sounds genuinely fun

package it and call it a feature

anyway i think i figured out why the hand looked weird

big ass wrist

[nocturne hare]

the fingers are too big really

[supple yew]

that too probably

[nocturne hare]

or too small

[supple yew]

idk hands are hard i usually just do big sausages

[nocturne hare]

lmao i think it's best to start by looking at your hand a lot

that's how i got okay at hands

[supple yew]

it's definitely better than what i started with

i mean yea i look at my hands too but it's hard to t5ranslate to the screen for some reason

[nocturne hare]

holy shit what a shop LOL

[supple yew]

LOL

fire

[nocturne hare]

queen of clubs run fr

[supple yew]

idol licking its lips rn

[nocturne hare]

actually i wonder if a "illusion fix" mod exists

okay one does but it's old

oh and the chances are off

[supple yew]

oops!

okay so hows this look for the first one

could be better but eh it works

[nocturne hare]

ok it might be worth it to take magic trick now

i mean i guess illusion + deck stuffer is a whopping 20 dollars

glow up and hone get buffed too right? idr

[supple yew]

no clu

[nocturne hare]

this is bs

i'm fixing that

[supple yew]

REAL

that's jus

how is illusion this bad in vanilla

gah damn

[nocturne hare]

magic trick is ass bc illusion is ass

[supple yew]

true if illusion was good it would be worth considering taking a magic trick

i mean outside of hologram runs

[nocturne hare]

actually it's so funny we're doing this because then Voucher Clear's flavour text is unjustified

[supple yew]

LOL

hey listen

[nocturne hare]

roffle's not gonna know ...

[supple yew]

no matter how much magic trick gets buffed

i'm still gonna hate it

[nocturne hare]

actually i think the Planet and Tarot merchants are also ass for similar reason

[supple yew]

esp planet merchant, tarot merchant can be useful sometimes

but they just clutter your shops

[nocturne hare]

if you have Deck Stuffer (which requires two vouchers in Magic Trick and Deck Fixer) and one favourite card you can actually just start instant idol run

it's actually busted but it's so expensive

[supple yew]

yea and you also need an efficient way to delete bad cards like say trading card or lots of hanged men

[nocturne hare]

alright time to see if my hotfixes work

reroll 100

[supple yew]

WHAT

[nocturne hare]

i love debug plus

[supple yew]

i didn't know it could do that

[nocturne hare]

naneinf is just a number

for ultima creative mode you can do G.GAME.dollars = math.huge

(which is naneinf)

[supple yew]

holy hell

[nocturne hare]

hot fix one, i noticed that for some reason the illusion implementation is scuffed and doesn't add enhancements to the copied cards but it does for editions naturally

so now they do with same chances

it's scuffed but it should be fine

now time to do the hone /glowup

damn thunk...

uh h. ok

[supple yew]

[nocturne hare]

illusion is actually ass

it has a 1 in 5 of giving editions but boosters have 2 in 5

actually that might be ok if i make hone and glow up work

so just 1 in 5 by default

and x2 and x4 as needed

[supple yew]

yae

perfect

okay i might be cooking with the second one

[nocturne hare]

hot dang

okay so basically i just buffed 4 vouchers indirectly

you know you done good when you have to spawn like 4 sets of vouchers because they all are indirectly buffed

[supple yew]

LOL

that's how we like to do business here at rofflatro inc.

[nocturne hare]

first reroll instant poly

you know i think glow up worked idk. ..

[supple yew]

gah DAYUM

[nocturne hare]

nice

nice

[supple yew]

only just realised that level 2 vouchers have this fancier top part

mind if i do the same for blanket 2

[nocturne hare]

oop ye

i've just been mindlessly rerolling to pass the time

[supple yew]

it's beautiful...

[nocturne hare]

let's pray for the second roffle naneinf being not main channel

[supple yew]

aite hows this

2x

[nocturne hare]

this is fire

let's push

[nocturne hare]

might need padding

i'll add it

[supple yew]

ah i think either when exporting or sending thru here the extra space on the sides gets removed

also happened when i downloaded your template

[nocturne hare]

ok the voucher branch doesn't die immediately on startup

okay yeah everything works

WE'RE SO CONTENT PILLED

[supple yew]

YEEESSSSSS

[nocturne hare]

okay when do we inform roffle

because he did say he wanted to do some more runs before the update but he didn't know how close it was

[supple yew]

maybe we can give a heads up that it's close to completion and he can sneak in one more stream before we launch the update

also this might need some balancing

[nocturne hare]

haha okay yeah i'll do balancing

[supple yew]

shop 1 cat ears with a pair build is just disgusting

lmao

[nocturne hare]

we forgor wee was +8 chips

we can try uhhh hh

eh maybe even +3 is fine

this is difficult actually we need to Thunk

[supple yew]

considering squaremans is +4 maybe yeah

[nocturne hare]

yeah that's fair

this is easier than 4

but squareman is common

[supple yew]

maybe cat ears is a common in spirit and we should downgrade

or maybe we do like +6 or smn

[nocturne hare]

the only reason why cat ears is 13 is because there's a joke where it says "+:3" instead of +13

[supple yew]

shit u right

then it's a common :3

[nocturne hare]

yeah true +3

it does break the uncommon hat-shirt-pants full house jokers

maybe we can do a +8?

+:3 looks like +8 if the 8 was slightly shifted down

eh i'll see

[supple yew]

could worek

[nocturne hare]

so this is kinda just wee 2

but wee is good because you can deck fix to it a lot

this one is kinda blocked

[supple yew]

and wee has retriggering possibilities

[nocturne hare]

yeah +8 seems ok

[autumn swan]

Lmk when it's time for wave 3 jokers

[supple yew]

what da hell happened

[nocturne hare]

i tried really hard to move the draw_diamonds loc to Not Inside Draw The Diamonds.lua

i failed

[autumn swan]

Why?

[supple yew]

let me check

uhm

you forgot the =

[nocturne hare]

...yeah i saw

[supple yew]

lmao

[autumn swan]

Anyways

How can I be of use

[supple yew]

it's beautiful

[supple yew]

if you wanna help test the latest additions or get a head start on the next content update

:3

(if you do make new jokers pls do a new branch for em

[autumn swan]

ill get tp wprk on that aint my grave

[latent turtle]

Pinned Joker:
This joker gives x??mult when it is the left most joker
(Thank you for the pinned message, mods)

Maybe don't make it copyable by bp/bs just for fun. Or because technically there can only be one pinned message

[autumn swan]

maybe +??xmult every time the leftmost joker is triggered

[autumn swan]

would you want to pvp test the jokers or smth

not my grave is done btw

[supple yew]

fire

uh i mean rn im boutta go to bed but sounds fun

[autumn swan]

okie, we can alway do it another time

[supple yew]

tomorrow perhaps?

[autumn swan]

ill see

lmk when you can

[supple yew]

yae

[latent turtle]

I mean I'm not a mod/game developer so I have no concept of balance. I just get ideas and need to throw them at some wall to see if they'll stick.

[autumn swan]

The suggestion was not really about balence, rather about making the joker interesting and force new strategies and synergies

Jus having it the left slot doesn't do anything to cause interest strategy

In fact it makes brainstorm basically pointless

But triggering the leftmost card makes you reconsider the benefits of scaling the joker or your joker order nonsense

[supple yew]

wait i think the original idea for this one was a hearthstone card

havent seen what it looks like

this looks awesome tho thats for sure

https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Ghastly_Gravedigger_(Core) apparently it's a reference to a voiceline from this card

https://youtube.com/shorts/WqjGCVn0CC0?si=JPn9Mo3DBMFXJMPm blast from the past roffle using it in a short

[autumn swan]

Ik I did my research

Problem is I didn't want to haveanother card look so similar to another

Since main channel already looks like a hearthstone card

Then I based the colors for the tendril/vine off of the color of the grave digger

[supple yew]

yea vali

it's awesome

[autumn swan]

Lmk when you want to do that pvp thing

[supple yew]

i can do it nao @autumn swan

if u wanna

[autumn swan]

Sure

I'm turning on my PC

[nocturne hare]

spill the tea

wait don't spill me

[autumn swan]

Too late

knocks you off the table like a cat

[supple yew]

ju gsfdeg

[nocturne hare]

noooo oooo.

this is a hate crime against agenda fluid

[autumn swan]

i in roffle vc

[scarlet horizon]

watching the new video, what does Roffle's shirt have to do with 3oak? Is it because he said he has three of that shirt?

[autumn swan]

I think it's to synergies with pants

And cat ears

[scarlet horizon]

ahh

[autumn swan]

So it's kinda like an outfit thing

[supple yew]

personally the logic i followed when designing it is that a shirt has 3 holes

the effect itself isn't much of a reference to anything other than spare trousers

[nocturne hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlMCl_iMqpw

[supple yew]

we're back with some more rafaelro

[weak sparrow]

Balaffle

[gentle basin]

it has four though?

[supple yew]

that's what you would think intuitively but it's kinda like the straw thing - straws don't have 2 holes, at least topologically, it's just one hole that goes from one side to the other. similarly a shirt's holes count as three, at least that's how i've heard it being explained

[pine night]

help

[autumn swan]

Hmmm

Something is enabled that shouldn't be

[pine night]

how fix

[supple yew]

i tried loading the mod using the main branch version and had no issue - could you send the full log? maybe there we can see which file that doesn't exist it tried to load

nevermind i didn't have the latest version pulled

[nocturne hare]

this is 1.1.3a apparently

[supple yew]

fuckin hell what did i do

[nocturne hare]

which makes less sense

because roffle loaded it fine

[supple yew]

yea

[nocturne hare]

looks normal to me

whenever something inexplicable happens you need to ask like 3 questions

first is "Do you have nested files"

and "Are you on MacOS"

the third question is "Can you download from main"

[supple yew]

i was about to ask about mac

there's always some bs happening with mac

[nocturne hare]

mac luajit is cursed

[nocturne hare]

potential for Black Shirt nerf. it's very easy to scale

i think it's on par with somewhat supported cat or hologram