odd, just tested it
#Dimserene's Modpacks Manager v1.13.2
cedar cosmos
i eated jb
unkempt elm
JB turned into JCorp
silver oriole
i eated jb
Ate*
silver oriole
10k
fluid fog
I just updated the full pack from yesterdays update. What happened? I am getting all kinds of crashes. Using a tarot card, opening a spectral pack, looking at the deck, using the wheel... etc. I've removed Bunco and JokerDisplay and its support, is there anything else I should not include for now?
fluid fog
I'll have to check the logs, the windows crash handler steps in before the mod crash handler so I'm not seeing it right away.
silver oriole
I just updated the full pack from yesterdays update. What happened? I am getting...
Actually, this crash sounds familiar, do you have any twewy Joker in hand?
Specifically some aqua monster
fluid fog
Unrecoverable. But the latest one (checking the deck) I had 3 copies of 2D, little m, razor, and crow person. It wasn't a particularly demanding loadout.
silver oriole
I just updated the full pack from yesterdays update. What happened? I am getting...
So you mean it's every run for you
fluid fog
More or less, yes.
silver oriole
I cannot test right now, if you can provide any relevant crash logs, it might help (to certain extent).
fluid fog
Yup, no worries, I was just checking if anyone else had some kind of compat issue and if there was a quick fix.
silver oriole
Also can you describe how did you update, was it through manager
fluid fog
Manual update. Open mods, Ctrl-A, Delete, open downloads, delete modpack, run setupfull.bat. Manager still has the issue of hardlocking on update for me. But I am certain that's an issue on my end, I'm just not that fussed to figure it out.
silver oriole
It's okay. That process should be fine
Do you recall when did all these crash happens? Did they have certain patterns to occur?
silver oriole
I'll have to check the logs, the windows crash handler steps in before the mod c...
Also, you specifically pointed out windows will panic before the game crashed
So it might be some performance issues
fluid fog
Seemed to be primarily related to deck manipulation. The first run died when I attempted to use a death card on 2 aces, converting a normie into gold. The second run softlocked when I got a random spectral tag (I think it was the special one with the gateway card) that immediately hung the game. Was able to debug out of that one but with no way to delete the tag it was dead. The third one was Aura related, sometimes Blueprint bugs right out with animations on, easy fix. The most recent one was looking at my deck to see how many 2's I had while in a arcana pack. There were a couple more very early crashes.
And yes, the game isn't generating logs as windows is terminating the process before the game realizes it needs to panic. I did notice that some runs were dropping to 10 FPS within 10 mins, you might be on to something with the performance thing... for reference my PC runs BG3 completely maxxed out and heavily modded so I'm not lacking horsepower.
silver oriole
Damn
I am speechless
Well do you wish to take a look at Fine-tuned Pack, to see if it is better or not
fluid fog
Sure, no harm in trying.
silver oriole
That way maybe we can deduct the problematic mods
It's too late for me, sorry in advance if I cannot help at all, but I really gotta go
fluid fog
No worries, I'm capable of troubleshooting. I just didn't want to go to the trouble if someone had already done it. Thanks for your help, I'll do some testing and write up my findings for you to peruse tomorrow.
silver oriole
Really appreciate it.
fluid fog
Fine-Tuned 22b Test run 1) Major slowdown 7 minutes in. Going to start disabling mods one by one to try and find the culprit.
Test Run 2) Turned off Aura. 5 mins in, crunchy. Not the problem.
Test Run 3) Disabled Ankh. 5 mins from 600fps to 30fps. The killer is still on the loose.
Test Run 4) Disabled NotJustYet. No dice, crunchy again.
Test Run 5) Disabled Balatro Safety. Sigh.
Test Run 6) Disabled Stacked Red Seals. At this point the performance issues are consistent. Some function is incrementing wildly out of control here. But what would be running consistently in the background and bloating with card triggers/spawns/deletions?
Test Run 7) Yeah. That seems to be it. Every card trigger, spawn, deletion, redemption etc, seems to increase the load. Going to do a bit more scientific approach this time. Do an absolute minimum viable run using debug to set up the file (5 cards, 1 joker, no cons), start fresh, see if FPS stabilizes, and then try to narrow down the effect and see if that points me in the right direction.
Test Run 8) Anti-stress test. Yellow Deck. Left it alone for 20 mins. Stable at 590ish fps. Played High card. No effect on performance. Played four of a kind. No effect. Stable at cash-out. Loading the shop we have our first performance hit. Stabilized at 540fps now. Now on Ante 5, stable at 320fps. It seems like the shop is the main culprit. Loading a shop seems to consistently hammer down the performance by about 5%. Kept playing. Buying, selling, redeeming, and opening packs has minimal if any effect. Starting behaving at 250 for a while. Started a few new runs, behaved. Fired up the Deck of Stuff and within about 4 shops we dipped below 30fps and the game lags. So I wonder if it's certain cards loading into the shop causing the slowdown?
No crashes though. So that's good news.
urban wharf
Does rerolling the shop slow down?
fluid fog
Not in any meaningful way, but I had no money to test like 20+ rolls.
I'll try that next though.
subtle bane
This definitely sounds like a memory leak issue.
fluid fog
Yeah, just tested the re-roll theory. Nah. Up to $100 re-rolls, no issues. Had to clone and sell hundreds of jokers to afford it, no problem there either. Play the next blind, no issue. Performance takes a hit at cash-out for obvious reasons but it recovers. Loading the shop is what seems to cause the permanent hit.
wise sparrow
When I tested a couple of weeks ago I had the same issue of it slowing down when the shop is loaded, but I think I was testing with only Cryptid on
subtle bane
Fine-Tuned pack doesn't have Cryptid though iirc.
fluid fog
It does not.
wise sparrow
Yeah, it might be either a vanilla or Steamodded issue that is made worse by some mod?
fluid fog
I suspect that is the case. Vanilla runs can get pretty crunchy when you abuse Perkeo, this seems to be that on steroids.
subtle bane
There is a memory leak issue with vanilla Balatro relating to consumable count.
But I don't remember hearing one for the shop
fluid fog
Hm. I'm going to try disabling everything and just run it with the steamodded loader and see if the issue persists.
No problems after a dozen or so blinds. So it's most likely a mod misbehaving. So now which mods would be loading something on cash out?
subtle bane
Talisman, maybe? Or is that also not included in Fine-Tuned due to requiring mod compat?
Either way the cashout menu is created by G.FUNCS.evaluate_round, and managed by Game:update_round_eval.
Mods that hook/inject into these two would be the most likely sources of this if it is happening on cash out.
fluid fog
I think I found the culprit. On a whim I decided to run only SDM Stuff mod and encountered the shop issue immediately. Figured out I can just press L to reload the shop. Every L press was -30 fps. Ran it again with everything but SDM enabled and the shop issue is not present. Hit L about 20 times and no discernible slowdown is happening. So something funky is happening there.
I'm gonna try removing it from fullpack and see if that stabilizes it.
fluid fog
Well, I've got fullpack back to playable. Removing the betmma mods, joker display, sdm, and bunco seems to have fixed the fatal exception errors and now it crashes normally when I do something that I know the game can't handle (canvas abuse). The deck viewing glitch is still present, but that only seems to happen when everything else is starting to fall apart when extreme runs get extreme.
faint tapir
I can't even open my settings, what?
(that's Vanilla Plus by the way)
On a hopefully related note, the Modpack Manager has this to say when I download
faint tapir
Aura has the same problem by the way, I'm running with the bash commands now and a few of them fail
I'm up to like 4 exclusions in the bash command, I'm giving up
amber matrix
Aura has the same problem by the way, I'm running with the bash commands now and...
suprised you went straight into this modpack
silver oriole
On a hopefully related note, the Modpack Manager has this to say when I download
Did you try some more times?
silver oriole
Well, I've got fullpack back to playable. Removing the betmma mods, joker displa...
All abovementioned mods need to be removed?
faint tapir
Oh yeah, I tried a lot of times, even fiddled with the bash command itself; couldn't ever get mods to download
faint tapir
Yes I do have git, I even use Git Bash as my cmd
The error with "manual" commands is the same as the one I screenshot above
I can do stuff like this and well yeah regular Git just works
silver oriole
You just did git clone --recurse-submodules --remote-submodules https://github.com/Dimserene/Dimserenes-Modpack right
pine apex
it crapped its pants when i tried to buy a arcana pack on very cruel challange
faint tapir
You just did `git clone --recurse-submodules --remote-submodules https://github....
The vanilla plus pack
But yes
Tried the command you sent for the "full" pack, same kind of error, FWIW
amber matrix
Tried the command you sent for the "full" pack, same kind of error, FWIW
do you still have steammodded 0.9.8 installed
pine apex
Ok, so abilitys are treated as consumables as far as hammerspace is concerened, and that '-1 hand size' actually means 'instant death lol'
silver oriole
why instant death?
pine apex
i think it's maybe some of the passive abilitys created are causing the hand size to be put down to zero
silver oriole
Oh you mean that abilities are put onto cards, which caused hand loss?
pine apex
yeah that's whats happening im pretty sure
the issue caused by abilitys being the same as consumables as far as the game is concerned
also something within this mess is causing massive lag at the end of each round
also GIL+Butterfly Funeral negative deck gaming
fluid fog
All abovementioned mods need to be removed?
Those are the ones I've identified as giving me stability and/or performance issues. I do try a few runs with them re-enabled every update but I usually end up nixing these ones. I'd disable them but I'm in the mod folder often enough for updates that I just remove them. The SDM_0 came as a bit of a surprise; I ran only it and debug out of the fine-tuned pack and it just slowed to unplayable after about 5 shop loads. Not sure what's going on there.
unkempt elm
I'm clueless as to why my mod would cause issue in the shop
@fluid fog Is it ok if I send you a version of SDM_0's Stuff that does not have cashout interaction see if it makes it better?
fluid fog
Sure, let's try it.
unkempt elm
Can't DM you, sent a friend request.
fluid fog
So it seems the SDM_0 misbehaviour is exclusive to the Deck of Stuff. I've added it back to the rotation and will just avoid DoS for the time being.
jolly shadow
i'm currently updating my modpack
gonna try full pack and see if it crashes
ok
no crash so far
game start up took some time but it is fine
jolly shadow
currently at ante 4 and no problem or crash happened
i'm currently using deck with mischevious one
faint tapir
do you still have steammodded 0.9.8 installed
Nope, when I downloaded manually from each GitHub everything worked
jolly shadow
oh damn, i'm getting semi lag now
it happened during score calculation from my first hand
jolly shadow
yeah i'm getting occasional lags here and there
still, game is running well enough
no crash run
rose swan
@silver oriole does the save data of mod save go away if I uninstall the mod?
cedar cosmos
no
rose swan
ok
unkempt elm
Ok I've pushed an update to SDM_0's Stuff hopefully this will reduce the issues caused by it.
fluid fog
Whoever made "The Register" blind boss... I am not happy with you. It has soft-locked me so often. I'm seriously considering editing it out of my mod selection hahaha.
cedar cosmos
who would've guessed
the cruel blind is cruel
fluid fog
It's just so easy to overlook when the ^mult machine is churning. Next thing you know the machine grinds to a dead halt and you're staring at 4054 in 2 odds to reject a hand. Ah well, in the future grind for a negative revert before going on autopilot.
Ugh. I'm annoyed. Finally get a run past Ante 50 with no random irrecoverable crashes after a week of tweaking and it just craters on a technically impossible boss.
cedar cosmos
if you have debugplus, just hold tab and press the win blind button
jolly phoenix
It's just so easy to overlook when the ^mult machine is churning. Next thing you...
or chicot
fluid fog
Or for... I didn't appreciate what "tab : menu" meant in the documentation. There were a million ways out of that hahaha. Well, at least my ignorance is an easier pill to swallow.
fringe moat
@silver oriole Is there a way to pin the links at the top? I don't wanna scroll all the way up there.
silver oriole
pin what link
fringe moat
Hmm? Weird, the top messages with the modpack links weren't pinned for me before. 💀
Just an issue on my behalf, ignore me.
digital magnet
I went to play today and No mods loaded up? It says no mod pack or modpack util removed
Like I refreshed the manager and the mod is installed but when I hit play its just regular.
silver oriole
Play through steam is normal?
silver oriole
@faint tapir can you try this command instead
GIT_TRACE=1 GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 git clone --recurse-submodules --remote-submodules https://github.com/Dimserene/Fine-tuned-Pack
It will help us pinpoint what is the issue
Ok folks, is it time we introduce Incantation and Jen's Almanac in the pack?
faint tapir
<@180805605080956928> can you try this command instead
I'll give it a go when I'm at a computer (sadly probably after the weekend), yes
I can confirm, however, that going manually through the mod list in the Google Sheets, clicking on the mod links, and downloading the zips one by one, that does make them all work together without a single fail, so at least that's a backup
silver oriole
I can confirm, however, that going manually through the mod list in the Google S...
Well that is against what modpack supposed to offer
So I would like to get to the bottom of it
faint tapir
Yeah, I'd like that too, for sure! Like I said, when I can, I'll give it a go, see what comes out of it
(I'm a programmer too, so I know how it feels to have a bug and just not know, however that's a level of Git I've never had to deal with before)
silver oriole
Thanks in advance !
silver oriole
This is getting rediculous
Anyone know how to fix this?
I guess I should just add official link alongside channel link
silver oriole
yeah i don't want to blatantly and blindly add in mods and it just don't work
i need at least some extent of testing
but note JA will not always uptodate if it's frequently updateing
It's because of the way its repository arranged
silver oriole
Added to Full:
Incantation
Jen's Almanac
🪄 Better Illusion
Added to Fine-tuned and above:
BBBalatro
(74 mods) Dimserene's Modpacks (SMODS 1.0.0)
jolly shadow
Anyone know how to fix this?
Just get a permanent invite link
And add a instruction on how to get to this thread
jolly shadow
i got a crash
happened when i tried to do combat ace deck, i discarded cards in hand after reaching goal to see if one turns into ace card, but game crashed instead
silver oriole
Oh yeah, recruiter is bugged
I will actually just remove these combat ace themed stuff
jolly shadow
I see
royal ferry
fixed my incompat issues with math blinds im pretty sure
vagrant musk
Negative Deck no longer Negatives playing cards, except for in the deck preview.
silver oriole
I demand refund
vagrant musk
Also trying to continue a Pink Stake run sets it to Mean Stake.
cyan helm
https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.2.0
I'll test that when I get home. Thanks for accommodating
silver oriole
I am still having new ideas to be implemented
silver oriole
Idea list (not to-do list)
- filter function in mod selection
automatic backup save in set time intervals- randomize mod selection
- extra add-on pack installation
vagrant musk
Double Scale doesn't seem to be working on Exponentia.
silver oriole
man, i am not familiar with these names
vagrant musk
Doesn't work on Throwback either. I think scaling boosting is borked.
silver oriole
you mean all cryptid joker that boost scaling are malfunctioning
Also oh man it's already 6 am
vagrant musk
you mean all cryptid joker that boost scaling are malfunctioning
I don't know, I haven't tried it with Scalae, but I know Double Scale doesn't boost scaling.
dense wharf
Doesn't work on Throwback either. I think scaling boosting is borked.
Yeah it’s really buggy right now so just avoid it and scalae
vagrant musk
Okay.
silver oriole
Yeah it’s really buggy right now so just avoid it and scalae
Do you know the exact reason behind that?
dense wharf
Do you know the exact reason behind that?
No
silver oriole
The way you phrase that made me think that it is not a modpack issue, is it still bugged when used alone?
dense wharf
It isn’t a modpack issue
It’s barely holding on by itself
I think recent steamodded updates or something broke it
silver oriole
Good to know
brittle spade
Scalae and Double Scale are in desperate need of an unscuff
faint tapir
```
GIT_TRACE=1 GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 git clone --recurse-submodules --remote-submo...
That is exceedingly verbose, but hey, here ya go
(yes, it failed again, same error at the bottom)
I was on Git 2.23, found out there exists Git 2.46 now, let's just try to update, if that per chance resolves anything
Wow that was an old version of Git, whew
Hey there we go, I was simply on an old-ass version of Git. Go me. It's all fixed now!
How was this the first time that Git acts up on me, I have no idea, but now everything's fine
silver oriole
Solved?
silver oriole
Nice
vagrant musk
Probably rookie numbers for JA, but oh boy my first # notation hand.
dense wharf
Good to know
just a heads up this just got fixed recently (yayyyy!!!!)
feel free to update cryptid
tidal perch
just a heads up this just got fixed recently (yayyyy!!!!)
Also they can be retriggered now
vagrant musk
Actually, it's 2 in the morning, so going to sleep is probably a better thing to do at this time. I'll let you know if toning down the retriggers helps tomorrow.
silver oriole
Ok. Gn
vagrant musk
Uh, technically today. But you know what I mean. In the morning.
silver oriole
https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.2.1
Also anyone willing to try out please let me know if all functions well
Next batch I am looking at:
♾️ Love for Fibonacci
🎬 Action
Ceres
Balatro Joker Plus
Blackjack
🗄️Collectors Cards
Let me know if there's something I've missed
tidal perch
Is collectors still removed?
tidal perch
nice
silver oriole
https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.2.1
at this point I am even considering create a separate thread for manager
mellow quail
Oh gods what in the what. Antimatter deck on the full pack is... holy freaking score bonus batman!
There are like twice as many editions as last time I did the full pack
Jen's Almanac. I see. This is going to be... a run.
mellow quail
Aaaand crashing when trying to finish the very first round.
My best guess is the blue seal is trying to make a planet card with the Moire edition, and apparently the sound to play when doing that doesn't exist? Will see if discarding the blue seal let's me finish the round
Yup, discarding the blue seal before ending let me make it out fine, so point towards the edition on a planet card idea
Aaaaand the shop gave the same crash right after 
Hmmm. Another crash in a new run when scoring, mentioning that same sound file... I'll try reinstalling the pack, I think
silver oriole
I didn't have that much crash yesterday 🤔
mellow quail
Looks like the hand scored fine that time
Ah, but there was no consumeable slot available since I had used one first the last time around, maybe it was once again trying to spawn something
Using a fool to copy the tower gave it again, though
silver oriole
Gave what again
mellow quail
The error, complaining about e_moire.ogg not existing
Going to the shop in that run gave the same error as well
We'll try not the antimatter deck, my guess is one of the upsides of it is giving all cards editions and that's making it so some cards are being given an edition that was never prepared to be given to that card
mellow quail
I have been doing more without crashing, now, while using the antimatter deck, after the update.
Maybe I'll even finish the first round at some point!
I have infinite code cards and can score like 300 dollars a round, minimum
mellow quail
I have some concerns about that max hand count... also, ante -6.1? I need to beat ante 10... point 2? This is delivering even more chaos than I expected when I signed up for this
mellow quail
Still in the first shop... the hands are coming along nicely though 
And, yes, yes that is 310 negative soul cards in the top right there. Antimatter deck is wack yo
keen path
silver oriole
damn, first shop?
mellow quail
Round one, yup!
I think I've currently made an extra thousand dollars in this shop so far
silver oriole
While I am struggling to win on ante 8
mellow quail
I'm pretty sure its almost all the antimatter deck being completely and totally busted
I can give you the seed though, if you want
TUE1R592
Maybe I'll do it even if you don't! 
silver oriole
Nah I enjoy struggling
mellow quail
I could not even begin to try and tell you the order of the actions I took to get here, though
The stars just aligned, then aligned, and then aligned some more and suddenly I'm two hours in and haven't started round 2
silver oriole
I am tired and not in the mood to grind runs, I am just testing if the next batch is ready to be added
dense wharf
Next batch I am looking at:
♾️ Love for Fibonacci
🎬 Action
<:planet_x:11857863...
Just a heads up ceres is going to cause incompatibilities with jens almanac
silver oriole
exactly what part will conflict?
silver oriole
Alright, I cannot test extensively and thoroughly enough so this information is very valuable for me
dense wharf
Yeah I know godsmos broke with it, might be a few others too
+I assume it’s not gonna get fixed either since Jen just said to not use it as a response
So that’s gonna be fun to deal with in a modpack setting
silver oriole
Yep
cedar cosmos
if you're using jen's almanac why would you need jokers that pollute the pool really
silver oriole
If that statement is true, then I am not sure what mod is polluting
flat yoke
As in, if you use Jen's Almanac, there's no reason to use other joker mods at all, because they'll all be strict downgrades that take up jokers that could've been from Jen's Almanac.
silver oriole
I think it's a good debuff and balance (of sorts) anyways
But you guys have your points
I will reevaluate whether the decision of including JA is correct or not
dense wharf
Either way Incantation could
be moved to vanilla+ since it doesn’t cause much issues outside of copy + paste in cryptid and the dependency to jalmanac
wind haven
JA is too extreme to be in extreme pack 
flat yoke
Incantation's default is to still stack non-negative consumeables and free up slots though, right?
dense wharf
Oh right
silver oriole
I think so
dense wharf
Fine tuned ig
flat yoke
I think best left in extreme, but I like my vanilla balance more than most people.
silver oriole
No, if JA is not going to be included, Incantation will go with it
urban wharf
You could ship incantation with the non negative stacking turned off
flat yoke
I think if you keep Cryptid, then Incantation could stay, but you could send all three off, or to an addon pack, which might as well just be a small modpack on it's own that has every mod that is completely overpowered.
silver oriole
Cryptid is fine but for a different reason
Well I am questioning my own modpack philosophy a bit
I need some rest and time to sort these out
cedar cosmos
please do get some rest
mellow quail
Hmm. based on the levels, all those hands should be better... but those actual chip and mult values are a lot worse... especially my poor high card score
silver oriole
Hmm. based on the levels, all those hands should be better... but those actual c...
That looks so cursed
flat yoke
Honestly, I think a Power Trip modpack could be the way to go. Purely just the most powerful mods, like Almanac and Cryptid, and any enablers, like NotJustYet letting their overpowered jokers be even more overpowered and TWEWY's tons of hand size that I find often pairing well with Cryptid, and drop things like KCVanilla, Virtues, and Paperback, which just don't match the scaling.
mellow quail
Bonus Blinds should be in it just because of how much it can compound already broken mods into the sky with extra shops and rounds at the lower ante levels, then. Betmma's vouchers and abilities are also really wild, especially the Thumb ability.
Also, um... high card looks a bit better now. Just a minor power spike for it
silver oriole
So what you mean are a modpack with all these powerful mods only?
flat yoke
Yeah. Keep them separate, so you can still enjoy mods like Lobotomy Corp, and I think D6 jokers which are stuck in extreme, but, still present and convenient for people to download all the powerful mods together.
silver oriole
D6 is gone sadly
mellow quail
If that statement is true, then I am not sure what mod is polluting
Oh! If I had to pick a mod here that had "polluting" jokers - I'd say Snow's. There's a whole line of "coin" jokers there, and I feel like I have never once seen a single one of them do anything, to the point I just avoid them unless I don't care about my joker slots in the run and feel like trying to see if a given one might actually work.
urban wharf
I subscribe to this line of thinking, mods like cryptid and JA are cool and do wacky things but I don’t think they have a place in a large mod pack like this
flat yoke
D6 is gone sadly
I personally didn't like having no differences in the icon art, I think some basic recolouring could've went a long way to stop me from picking up several D6 jokers assuming it would just be a Fool, but, either way, think what I was getting at still makes sense.
cedar cosmos
yea just needed something to differentiate the cards
silver oriole
This can be getting out of hand really quickly, note that even at one pack I am not maintaining it to my standard, let alone three or even more
I might actually just ditch Vanilla plus altogether at the same time since I don't think there's a single organism in the universe is playing the pack
flat yoke
I went to grab the mods there for myself, personally, but I'm also still using a modified version of MilckQOL for my cards to be correlated to numbers.
silver oriole
Do you think Vanilla plus has a place to stay
flat yoke
I think it does, but I do also think it's much less popular and can easily be ignored/neglected for the most part, unless someone specifically mentions an issue on it.
I like it there more for the organization of it than to use it for myself, if that explains my thoughts better?
silver oriole
Organization?
faint tapir
Solved?
Yup yup, all solved, the culprit was an oooold version of Git (like, 2021 old)
silver oriole
also I will construct some polls to gather up all the opinions from you guys after some pondering upon today's topics
flat yoke
Organization?
I like having them all in one place so that I can download all the QoL mods at once, and pick and choose which ones I move over - Like, for example, I don't personally like the look of JokerDisplay, it feels like it clutters up the screen too much for me, so I would just leave it instead of moving it over.
I'll also mention that I use QoL mods on my basically vanilla, achievement enabled gold stake climbing profile.
silver oriole
Ah, that make sense
mellow quail
Welp. I guess I'll never make it to a winning ante. We're gonna be stuck flying backwards in time forever, folks.
flat yoke
Overall though, it is completely up to you - I'm not the one maintaining any modpacks, I have no idea what it actually takes behind the scenes. If it feels like too much, then feel free to drop it.
silver oriole
Also i wonder if you can recommend any qol mods to be added that I've missed
No, if there's someone somewhere sometimes find it useful, it should stay
urban wharf
I can’t imagine vanilla+ needs too much maintenance tbh, i wouldn’t have thought there’d be too many more qol mods created
silver oriole
Mostly human error tbh
flat yoke
My thoughts as well. I don't really have many more QoL mods to recommend, Milck's is probably the only odd one, and I use it because I'm used to card games like StS with card hotkeys.
silver oriole
And if it's a Vanilla + mod that would be triple the time to fix them in all packs
But it's not the pack's fault
urban wharf
Oh, do the packs no function as pulling from each other? Is it not possible to have fine tuned grab the fine tuned mods and the vanilla pack?
silver oriole
That will nest the folders so sadly no
urban wharf
I would have thought there’d be a workaround, especially if you use your installer
silver oriole
Yeah but the manager is not working well as intended, it's working for myself at least
silver oriole
I would have thought there’d be a workaround, especially if you use your install...
I know there's definitely workaround
flat yoke
My thoughts as well. I don't really have many more QoL mods to recommend, Milck'...
Will say that Better Illusion and maybe Jeantoine might fall under vanilla+ for me if properly balanced, because they'd bring content already in the game to match the standard of other things in their tier - Illusion/Magic Trick, is just a downside in vanilla unless you have a specific build for it, and that's not good for a voucher effect. Chicot, isn't bad, but it's just nothing compared to the potential that any of the other Legendaries give,
mellow quail
Oh no. The back in time joker got retriggered... a few times, after that reroll. I ain't winning this one, folks! Ante -90.5!
I'd need to make it through 100 antes without crashing, and without really spending money, to win this run now
Oh. Um. Make that 130 antes now.
Fun fact, ante -120 has the same scoring requirements as ante -1
silver oriole
I wish I have more time to ponder and polish everything to work flawlessly
urban wharf
Just take some time to polish it all, don’t worry about updates until you’re happy with the state it’s in
silver oriole
I imagine I will need to overthrow everything to build up again though
Which I've been avoid to do for a long time tbh
Like I said I might just leave the packs as is and see if things will happen
I'll finish up what I've been doing today though, which is add last batch of mods into the mix
vagrant musk
Okay, selling Noise was a bad idea. Gotta get rid of the Joker that makes more Jokers when you sell one first.
Paragon of Darkness with retriggers is a nightmare if you want to clean up your Joker Slots LOL
Hmm, trying to sell her is a bad idea too. I guess I could just shove all the regular Jokers she makes on selling the second Noise to the left and hope it works out.
Incantation but for Jokers would be pretty helpful.
vagrant musk
That or maybe Nyx's "put in the rightmost slot to disable" effect should be kept when you upgrade her.
cedar cosmos
this isn't a modpack screenshot anymore this is just an average jen's almanac screenshot 😭
vagrant musk
Well, I've just finished rearranging the Jokers. Let's see how long a hand takes to score, which will probably be long enough that I'll have to turn animations off.
All that just for it to crash again.
Welp, I think that's the end of that run.
rose swan
Heeelp
@silver oriole can you add a mod that skips all animations
This is taking ages
fringe moat
Heeelp
Doesn't Nopeus have an option for that? I thought that came with the other Jen mods.
rose swan
Silly me forgot to update the modpack
rose swan
Doesn't Nopeus have an option for that? I thought that came with the other Jen m...
Also nopeus..?
I have seen those 3 in 1 planet cards with finnish names... does this community have a finnish modder??
rose swan
Doesn't Nopeus have an option for that? I thought that came with the other Jen m...
How do I enable it?
How do I enable nopeus????
urban wharf
Talisman has skip animations, no?
fringe moat
How do I enable it?
Look at the Jen's Collection github, it should have the mod in there.
urban wharf
Nopeus adds extra speeds and the option to disable certain event texts
rose swan
Nvm
Talisman worked fine
Sadly
Now the game is not letting me to shop
So I gave up
vagrant musk
Deal seems to make The Survivor useless once it's the only level 1 hand left, since it can't level up, thus leaving it constantly trying to level up a hand that functionally doesn't exist.
forest hound
@silver oriole hello i just want you to know that i used that modpack installer you made for one of your modpacks and when i installed it i happened to have a mod i was working on in my mods folder and when i did that it just like killed it permanently forever gone (i did have it open in vsc so i could recover the code luckily) but you should probably like make it not do that or maybe add a warning or something
silver oriole
<@402093143908155403> hello i just want you to know that i used that modpack ins...
That is a massive design flaw. I will look at this issue seriously
subtle bane
This is also something worth the normal setup script as well iirc.
Although it was just an xcopy not an override.
silver oriole
Sorry but I don't understand what you mean
subtle bane
The setup file in the modpack release copies the files into the mods directory which last time I has used almost risked overriding the local copy of Cryptid I had that was modified to work with the API I was testing.
silver oriole
Too aggressive
subtle bane
I think that the xcopy command used by the setup.bat file (and I assume also the button in the modpack manager that downloads/updates the mods? idk the code of it tho) is a bit too careless when people might already have mods inside the file.
silver oriole
Possible fixes for the issue :
- A warning before install
- Create a backup for old Mods folder
- Separate xcopy and rmdir+xcopy to two different buttons
If the manager is working for everyone though I will simply deprecate the ugly batch scripts, sadly it's not
silver oriole
Currently my to-do list (so I will not forget, roughly in priority):
- fix on manager and batch files
- add next batch mods mentioned yesterday
- poll to gather essential informations on yesterday's topic
- ponder on future modpack reorganize and reconstruct
But lately I am kinda in hiatus mood
Tonight I will work on first two and leave the other two for later
silver oriole
Added to Fine-tuned and above:
♾️ Love for Fibonacci
Balatro Joker Plus
Added to full:
🎬 Action
🗄️Collectors Cards
(78 mods) Dimserene's Modpacks (SMODS 1.0.0)
Full pack: as long as it is a mod and it will function with other mods, it is added
Power Pack: All busted mods, none others
Fine-tuned Pack: as balance and vanilla like as possible
Vanilla + Pack: only qol and reasonable appearance mods
Certain "busted" mods:
JA (+Talisman & Incantation)
Cryptid
Compound mods to go along with above:
Betmma mods
More Joker packs
Not Just Yet
Bonus Blinds
TWEWJ
Jeantoine
Aurinko
And Vanilla-Plus-Pack qol mods
mellow quail
Maybe not busted on its own, but it can strongly compound how out of hand all the other mods can get.
pure gyro
Ngl I would be interested in a curated power pack, just make busted jokers
silver oriole
Ngl if JA is there what else mod is needed lol
mellow quail
More joker packs can do a lot when you get a legendary, epic, or exotic joker pack in the shop, so I think that one could likely stay in either way. Not just Yet, too, let's you get really crazy.
silver oriole
With JA, other content mods are simply separated into busted and meh
not complaining but that makes building power pack straightforward
cedar cosmos
<:gold_seal:1185774063138914364> Full pack: as long as it is a mod and it will f...
unfortunate because this means lobcorp goes into full pack with JA
silver oriole
Well I don't know about that, I am torn between whether cryptid and JA should be completely removed from full
cedar cosmos
if there isn't a pack for lobcorp to go into without also having JA then I'd like to request for lobcorp to be removed
silver oriole
Roger that, it's like D6 standing in a awkward place I guess
cedar cosmos
lobcorp is designed to be rough on the player, so overpowered stuff like JA really doesn't work with it
silver oriole
It pretty much just likes to be alone tbh
cedar cosmos
i will still have Cryptid support because that can be balanced, but JA never will be
silver oriole
Lcorp, boss blinds mods (cruel blinds, math blinds, myst blinds etc.), house rules, maybe i bit of hand adding mods (like fibonacci and blackjack hands), and bonus blinds, nothing fancy
there aren't too many mods that focus on enhancing difficulty side of the game i am afraid
If there are anything I am missing though please let me know
cedar cosmos
cryptid but only the bosses and the stakes
silver oriole
Oh and that ante Scaling faster mod
mellow quail
What's giving all the extra stakes beyond gold in the full pack? If that is at all standalone, maybe that
mellow quail
Hmm. Had a feeling it would be that. Oh, yeah... Right up there two messages crytpid's stakes were mentioned... Anyways.
silver oriole
I will attempt to fix the fatal problem on manager and batch files now
silver oriole
In the mean time you can vote on the polls
high linden
is there any
like
explaination on how to use the mod manager?
cuz it says this when i try to run it
cedar cosmos
have you downloaded git
high linden
where's the link to that?
silver oriole
Wait you need git yeah
tidal oyster
i "figured out" the issue
it's an incompatibility with cryptid, but only like 10% of the time when loading the game
idk man
silver oriole
where's the link to that?
silver oriole
temporarily removed balatro jokers plus because it makes the packs not downloadable
(77 mods) Dimserene's Modpacks (SMODS 1.0.0)
sick cedar
i had an issue with a crash every time i continued a run and tried to update and got this error
sick cedar
you are using 1.2.1 manager?
how do i check?
silver oriole
it's down at the bottom of the main window
silver oriole
you updated the pack in between right
sick cedar
yea i did
silver oriole
you updated the pack in between right
also you shouldn't continue a run that is started before update pack
it will certainly break
sick cedar
but its the same crash as i got before updating
now im getting these two errors when trying to update
silver oriole
try delete the dimserenes-modpack folder in the same folder as manager
if you cannot, reboot your computer
sick cedar
ok so i deleted it, redownloaded it
silver oriole
should work now?
sick cedar
and i wait for the update and when its done check version still says update available
silver oriole
i separated download and install to different functions
yes good
everytime I see manager working I feel relieving
unkempt elm
Dim the mod manager is asking for my cc info is that normal?
silver oriole
what cc
unkempt elm
credit card
unkempt elm
????
silver oriole
nevermind, it looks like I am dreaming too
What should I call the power pack
Overclock?
unkempt elm
Insane pack
silver oriole
Actually, I will also stop refering my full pack as extreme
sick cedar
what is powerpack?
rose swan
Updating my game made my current game unplayable ): I guess it's time to start a new run
Did you delete something?
Another one after beating countdown in ante 2
rose swan
Another one after beating countdown in ante 2
This happened again
@silver oriole I think a joker or item is causing this
or maybe group of items
silver oriole
what is powerpack?
not yet created
rose swan
I am in the middle of something else though
Um.. how long is it going to take?
rose swan
Wait
lemme check that
Oh
hmm
This one was after the ante 2 boss
The countdown one was during ante 2
When I used the boss blind consumable
What is cryptid trying to do here?
silver oriole
yeah i passed ante 2 on XMult deck
rose swan
yeah i passed ante 2 on XMult deck
Hmmm do you think it was because I was using equilibrium?
silver oriole
K
rose swan
With Google gift card with rigged
Easy game
silver oriole
Any update on that?
rose swan
Any update on that?
I suck at the base game so I lost before ante 2
silver oriole
That's also why I use XMult deck...
rose swan
That's also why I use XMult deck...
Worked fine when playing on conveyor belt
silver oriole
Yeah maybe something is wrong in doe
rose swan
Yeah maybe something is wrong in doe
If you have time could you find a way to fix it?
I do not have experience with coding...
silver oriole
I am afraid I also lack the required ability of doing that
rose swan
I am afraid I also lack the required ability of doing that
I'm trying to go back in time to see when it was working
rose swan
I am afraid I also lack the required ability of doing that
Uhm How do I go foward in time
silver oriole
That is the neat part, you will need to download the modpack again
fair pilot
u should make a modpack manager manager to update the manager
silver oriole
lol, how did I not think of that
also, @rose swan i just tested DoE on my laptop, it's not crashing
yeah did both run with debug plus and without
rose swan
also, <@780782979911778314> i just tested DoE on my laptop, it's not crashing
??+
Why is it just crashing on my pc ):
After uninstalling and stuff
silver oriole
complete the same
rose swan
playing only with cryptid mod for now because it works
silver oriole
so it is a mod incompat somehow
sick cedar
get this error when trying to evolve splash
vagrant musk
What's Cyan Stake from? Not the Cryptid one, the one that applies after Orange.
urban wharf
bunco iirc
vagrant musk
Ah.
silver oriole
get this error when trying to evolve splash
Remove collectors cards
unkempt elm
What's collectors cards?
forest hound
my fps seems to just decimate itself over time inexplicably (as in, relaunching the game and proceeding with the same run gets me back up to 240 from 5), is there a specific mod known to be the culprit of this or am I just going to have to deal with this?
silver oriole
What's collectors cards?
silver oriole
Ok
unkempt elm
Btw how are the perfomances since the SDM_0's Stuff update, did that fix some of the issues? Didn't get any feedback.
silver oriole
I think it is significantly better
unkempt elm
Good to know! 😄
silver oriole
Removed from Full Pack in preparation for Insane Pack:
Incantation
🔥 Jen's Almanac
(75 mods) Dimserene's Modpacks (SMODS 1.0.0)
vagrant musk
Insane Pack contains everything in Full Pack, right?
unkempt elm
Should be so yea
vagrant musk
Cool.
sick cedar
what is the concept of insane pack?
cedar cosmos
big number brain happy
vagrant musk
Apparently Cosmic Collapse makes Themed Jokers crash the game, since it has Cosmic in its name but has nothing for Cosmic Tokens on it.
Came from an Eternal Moon Base so that run's dead.
silver oriole
Insane Pack contains everything in Full Pack, right?
Nope
silver oriole
Apparently Cosmic Collapse makes Themed Jokers crash the game, since it has Cosm...
That sounds so dumb
Insane Pack and Cruel Pack are both selective pack which means only certain mods go in them
mellow quail
Apparently Cosmic Collapse makes Themed Jokers crash the game, since it has Cosm...
Ohhhh, that's what was happening. Just got the same crash and came here to mention it, but I definitely had Cosmic collapse. I might be able to salvage the run by selling mine, though, I'll check.
Yup! Selling Cosmic Collapse made it so the tarots to add those tokens don't crash me like they had been.
silver oriole
I don't know how but I feel like that should Be an easy fix
mellow quail
Which is interesting, honestly, since the code in Themed Jokers is checking for "Cosmic -" in the name, hyphen included, while Cosmic Collapse has no hyphen...
silver oriole
Hmm
vagrant musk
Insane Pack and Cruel Pack are both selective pack which means only certain mods...
Oh. Will we be able to have multiple packs installed at once?
flat yoke
I mean, probably wouldn't bee anything stopping you from just throwing the mods that are in those packs into your installation of the Extreme Pack, other than not being as thoroughly checked for compatibility.
mellow quail
Welp, bricked my run. Somehow managed to get the required blind score to 0 and now it crashes when it tries to end the round. I actually made it past the win screen for once, though! I'll continue counting it as a win, thusly.
Negative deck is wack.
silver oriole
Nice
fresh grail
stopped playing for a week came back still devolved into the same run whitenight, laetitia, and canvas the only problem in this run was everything was common
silver oriole
Should I be worried about anything?
fresh grail
yes that i bought the voucher before the rare pack forgetting that i refeshes them
silver oriole
Oh lol
cedar cosmos
how do all your runs devolve into WN, Laetitia and Canvas
fresh grail
idk i open extinction pack and there always there
canvas is more of a sometimes there it mostly wn and laetitia
rose swan
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1226234529413468190
Looks like a good mod to add
I can test if it works with other mods when the equilibrium deck works again
silver oriole
Bruh, it's not yet ported to 1.0.0
silver oriole
Should be soon tho
cedar cosmos
JA + Incan
urban wharf
I would personally move cryptid to the power pack but that’s because I’m not interested in big number go brrrrrr
silver oriole
I can always poll
Well I should talk about this a bit more
by moving cryptid to insane, I will also consider to eliminate Fine-tuned-Pack
Since full and Fine-tuned is not that much different
silver oriole
I would personally move cryptid to the power pack but that’s because I’m not int...
If many of you backing this idea (which I am really considering), I will shut down Fine-tuned-Pack as well
jagged flicker
You could also change the config to remove all of the Jokers (EpicJokers and Exotic Jokers included) in full pack, because everything else isn't that busted
silver oriole
you mean not just epic and exotic but all?
rose swan
you mean not just epic and exotic but *all*?
I need help to go back in time
silver oriole
Well what exactly do you need
rose swan
the newst edition
silver oriole
What edition
jolly phoenix
I honestly think you should include an "anything goes" pack if you're splitting things this granularly since some people (me) just want to dump all the mods they can into the game and watch the sparks fly
silver oriole
If the modpack manager is an utterly successful thing, I can just distribute config files that just tell it what mods to install
Sadly it doesn't
rose swan
I can't make the modloader to download the newest version of the modpack
reinstalling didn't work
silver oriole
I can't make the modloader to download the newest version of the modpack
You go back to main menu and download again
Time machine literally set the files back in history state and discard its future
silver oriole
Sadly it doesn't
Else it would be very easy for me to construct and distribute future modpacks
silver oriole
I honestly think you should include an "anything goes" pack if you're splitting ...
I will keep that in mind.
rose swan
I will keep that in mind.
Good news the bug where I crash at ante 2 boss is fixed!!
silver oriole
Cryptid has updated so I imagine it is dealt with yeah
rose swan
Cryptid has updated so I imagine it is dealt with yeah
Nvm ):
Something still triggers it
silver oriole
Spoke too soon huh
rose swan
Rerolling triggers it
silver oriole
A question: do you play with all unlocked or not?
rose swan
So it's a card that doesn't normally appear in shop but when it does the game crashes
rose swan
A question: do you play with all unlocked or not?
Well I used the all unlock before mod installing so... vanilla content yes mod content no
silver oriole
You should probably unlock all modded contents too...
silver oriole
reset and then unlock all again
rose swan
reset and then unlock all again
Good idea!
silver oriole
lemme know if the crash persists after that
jolly phoenix
there really needs to be a mod that just leaves the unlock all button permanently enabled
silver oriole
Damn
rose swan
This modpack literally unplayable for me
silver oriole
If you just wanna play cryptid, go ahead and play with only cryptid might be a better idea tbh
unkempt elm
I might have found the cause, which mod has the prefix "jank"?
silver oriole
JankJonklers probably
unkempt elm
Oh it's JankJonkler
urban wharf
Jank jonklers I would guess
rose swan
going to try that rn
unkempt elm
Checking the other crashlog it doesn't seem to be because of Jank especially
silver oriole
It is calling out a lot of mods
unkempt elm
My theory is that a mod is calling set_ability without specifying a "center" variable and Cryptid set_ability override is not liking it
And other mod's set_ability override too it seems
Which pack do you play on?
rose swan
Extreme one
unkempt elm
Ok I'll try and give it a look
rose swan
Jank jonklers is disabled and equiriblium deck is used
This only happens on that deck for me
urban wharf
I’m pretty sure calling set ability with no center should just change it back into a base card, but I could be wrong
unkempt elm
This only happens on that deck for me
And no other deck?
urban wharf
Oh maybe not
rose swan
And no other deck?
well I tried with misprint and the crash didn't happen
unkempt elm
Oh maybe not
Cryptid doesn't check if center exists and does a check directly
rose swan
brb
unkempt elm
When you can you should try playing on a deck that doesn't enforce an edition
unkempt elm
Yknow like Mult Deck or Steel Deck etc
rose swan
yep
unkempt elm
Cuz if it's what I'm thinking, every non-forced edition deck should make you crash
Wait no Misprint doesn't have forced edition..
unkempt elm
But does the base game specify a center for every set_ability call?
silver oriole
I honestly think you should include an "anything goes" pack if you're splitting ...
Let's call it PoE (Pack of Equilibrium) or something
jolly phoenix
Antimatter Pack
silver oriole
Or that
urban wharf
But does the base game specify a center for every set_ability call?
yeah it does
unkempt elm
Love how Betmma has 3 set_ability override
urban wharf
I think cryptids create_card override is causing this problem
at least thats the furthest back point in the stack where the center is nil
unkempt elm
The only set_ability call without a center parameter defined I found is FloundersJokers
urban wharf
ah, I think this is an Actions mod issue
it looks like it's trying to create an Actions card, and it's not populating th epool correctly maybe?
rose swan
it looks like it's trying to create an Actions card, and it's not populating th ...
Trying that
rose swan
I wonder if cryptid has touched the create card function recently
after deleting jank jokers
It didn't change the error like last time
brittle spade
I wonder if cryptid has touched the create card function recently
It overrides it fully so it might be outdated
urban wharf
Has it changed recently though? Seems odd to be throwing this error now
brittle spade
https://github.com/Dimserene/Cruel-Pack
https://github.com/Dimserene/Insane-Pack
Also wondering what the distinctions are for Cruel/Insane Packs since those were made recently
urban wharf
Unless something is messing with the pools tmhemselves
dense wharf
Has it changed recently though? Seems odd to be throwing this error now
Last change was a week ago
And It was a minor change that seems unrelated to this
silver oriole
Also wondering what the distinctions are for Cruel/Insane Packs since those were...
Cruel is build around Lcorp, blinds and stakes mods
Insane is build around Cryptid and JA
Also math since you are here, the config files are not loaded when i forked Cryptid and modified it directly
I want it to default disable jokers and op stuff in Cruel but leave only blinds and stakes
yet it still loads everything
brittle spade
I think that updates the default config, but Steamodded saves the config to your profile
Also you have to update it from the mods menu not the spectral pack menu
brittle spade
When Cryptid balanced mode is made that would probably make more sense to put in the other modpack
silver oriole
Good things are worth waiting for.
urban wharf
You can fork and disable them manually
urban wharf
Yeah
silver oriole
I may give it a go tonight because:
- It's already past midnight for me
- I'm uncertain if this will disrupt GitHub's sync and merge
removed cryptid from cruel for now
brittle spade
You can fork and disable them manually
Best way to do that would be deleting all the unbalanced items from the return statement in each file
urban wharf
Wouldn’t overriding where the config turns them off be easier?
brittle spade
Yeah, but you have less control
fringe moat
yes that i bought the voucher before the rare pack forgetting that i refeshes th...
Yeah, you need to buy the Packs out before you get that Voucher, I experienced that first hand.
fresh grail
lost to a playing card dont score boss anyway nothing i could have done
sly ledge
crash when selecting green deck
fast escarp
To be fair, who plays green deck
subtle bane
Newest update does change a few things
Stickers API is broken, the code that applies them got modified so now it whiffs.
silver oriole
crash when selecting green deck
Don't know if that is because of the new update
fresh grail
i was playing zen mode then defeated whitenight and for some reason won 3 time making 3 jimbo of the mischievous one pushing my ante from like -5 to 15 and 3 result menus before crashing, and returning it placed me after that situation
vagrant musk
Has Bunco been removed from the pack? I just updated it and I don't see Bunco in my mods folder.
fresh grail
should be there somewhere
vagrant musk
Alright, reinstalled. It was in the pack but wasn't installed for some reason. I didn't exclude it so I have no idea what went wrong.
mellow quail
Currently using whatever Abnormality that censors all the descriptions of cards, and Joker Sell Value is giving this crash anytime I mouse over a joker in a booster pack.
Removing Joker Sell Value did make the crash stop
silver oriole
Let's call it PoE (Pack of Equilibrium) or something
I think poe is better than Antimatter cause Antimatter deck is all decks upside, but mods can have downsides
cedar cosmos
Currently using whatever Abnormality that censors all the descriptions of cards,...
The way CENSORED works is a bit invasive, will look into that
silver oriole
Has someone updated to 1.0.1g?
cedar cosmos
Currently using whatever Abnormality that censors all the descriptions of cards,...
this is fixed on their end btw, dim can you update
silver oriole
Joker Sell Value right
cedar cosmos
yup
silver oriole
https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.2.3
New modpacks: insane and cruel
silver oriole
Has someone updated to 1.0.1g?
I haven't tested my modpacks on 1.0.1g I am very worrying on them breaking apart
pulsar bone
How do I install I downloaded the .exe and get an error
pulsar bone
I did install git, python, pip, etc same error
cloud grail
How did yall download git on the steamdeck
pulsar bone
It’s a ROG ally
fresh grail
i didnt
pulsar bone
I should make it detect git installation
Guess I just needed a reboot, worked after I installed hit again and reboot
silver oriole
How did yall download git on the steamdeck
sudo pacman -S git iirc
rose swan
`sudo pacman -S git` iirc
What is the diffrence between dimserenes mod pack and insane one
does insane have more
rose swan
Mainly to contain JA that is
Um so the dimserene one doesn't have JA?
silver oriole
Also do we add these mods to insane
rose swan
Also do we add these mods to insane
Just asking is those 2 mods already in dimserenes modpack?
silver oriole
Yes
rose swan
k
silver oriole
Basically all mentioned mods for JA (except for Incantation) is in full pack
rose swan
Basically all mentioned mods for JA (except for Incantation) is in full pack
Um... how do I download JA from github?
nvm
I got it
vagrant musk
Fun fact: You can play with two packs at once if you back up your mod folder while you've got one pack installed, install the other, then just copy the mods from the backup.
rose swan
Um the new version crashes my game when opening @silver oriole
Mayube the new update is doing something
unkempt elm
unkempt elm
Looks like you can update again
silver oriole
uh wait for me i guess
woeful turtle
Just updated full pack but looks like it is still crash when opening
silver oriole
I really need to test this myself, I haven't update to 1.0.1g
tidal oyster
Just updated full pack but looks like it is still crash when opening
breaking change from steamodded that affects modded stakes
silver oriole
Hmm, so every modded stakes are broken then
rose swan
man..
silver oriole
i will test out all mods thats affected
remove cruel blinds. the game will safely boot without crash
don't have time to test further tho
silver oriole
It's good for now
rose swan
https://github.com/Dimserene/ModpackManager/releases/tag/1.2.5
Um it says there is virus
1.2.4 is fine but 1.2.5 is detected as virus
oh fuck
sick cedar
get these errors in the game and manager respectively when opening the game on the most recent update
rose swan
Oh yea thing to mention equilibrium deck is working now
sick cedar
it crashes before the mods even load
sick cedar
i mean a game crash is essentially the only way to truly end a good run
fluid fog
Bonus points if you make it full panic and skip the crash handler.
queen star
get these errors in the game and manager respectively when opening the game on t...
I also am having this issue, the game is not even loading 😦
sick cedar
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silver oriole
get these errors in the game and manager respectively when opening the game on t...
Remove cruel blinds
silver oriole
Install git and reboot pc
silver oriole
https://git-scm.com/downloads
^
brittle spade
good luck to the person who wants to do this for every mod in the modpack
brittle spade
i'm not going to do that, but I am going to try and add enhancement, edition, seal, and suit decks for everything here
urban wharf
Could you do it by scanning the pools after they’re injected?
brittle spade
sonic harbor
@silver oriole hey when Familiar releases do you think you can put it into the pack? It's first release should be in a day or two
I would say it probably categorizes into the normal pack not like extreme
since it's mostly "Vanilla"-ish cards and stuff
brittle spade
glitter deck looks really cool
silver oriole
good luck to the person who wants to do this for every mod in the modpack
what is this for
silver oriole
<@402093143908155403> hey when Familiar releases do you think you can put it int...
Of course, I am looking at it for quite a while
brittle spade
what is this for
shorthands you can type into POINTER:// to make a specific card appear
that way you don't need to type the exact name
got modded suit decks working too
and with that I think that's everything from this modpack
going to also add support for ceres and suit mods tho
silver oriole
So later when familiar and ortalab get released they will get support too?
Also there are sigil
jade forum
familiar does have edition decks, but not enhancement, seal, or other consumable decks
vagrant musk
I beat The Clock on Ante 1, and when I cashed out this happened. IDK why.
I was using the Deck of Equilibrium on the (Bunco) Cyan Stake, if that helps.
brittle spade
So later when familiar and ortalab get released they will get support too?
yes
silver oriole
I beat The Clock on Ante 1, and when I cashed out this happened. IDK why.
It's this crash that no one really know what happened again
vagrant musk
Haven't been able to replicate the crash on a new run. I think I just got unlucky.
silver oriole
Nvm ):
Line number is different but the Traceback is very similar
Sorry didn't mean to ping
vagrant musk
Aaaand it happened again after beating a Small Blind on another run. Maybe the shop's trying to spawn something.
silver oriole
Can you try remove actions?
I just have a vague remembering of someone talk about actions
vagrant musk
If it crashes again I'll try that.
Yeah alright, removing Actions.
I rarely use it anyway.
brittle spade
ok so to get cryptid being able to check mod configs, it's going to be loading REALLY late.
let me know if that causes any issues - it definitely might
tidal perch
Actions is bugged?
brittle spade
yeah this seems about good
silver oriole
Not “Action”
Maybe not actions, but cruel blinds are certainly bugged
cedar cosmos
the first of many
clearly deck of the apostles where you start with all blessed cards and pd
but also amplified deck wouldn't be bad
mellow echo
got this error using trying to download the modpack using the modpack manager
it might be worth noting that I used the fine tuned modpack in the past, possibly uninstalling it incorrectly
I've also reinstalled balatro multiple times, deleting the mods folder but keeping lovely
silver oriole
got this error using trying to download the modpack using the modpack manager
it...
Manually delete your downloaded modpack folders and try again
cedar cosmos
fixed
silver oriole
I am having some ideas that will potentially improve the modpacks as a whole (if possible), mostly revolving around better cooperation between mods:
- Remove duplicate and malfunctioning contents (e.g. same function vouchers in ortalab and ceres(yet to be added); combat ace theme in themed jokers)
- Sort conflicted concepts out (e.g. tier 3 vouchers and cryptid vouchers)
- Fuse similar concepts (e.g. space jokers, food jokers and the related decks, expect to add more)
- Reduce friction and improve functions (which I am attempting with manager)
jolly shadow
Would be nice to have alternative mods as theme addon and such
silver oriole
Can you elaborate on this
jolly shadow
Whats to elaborate about this?
silver oriole
I am not sure what you mean😅
jolly shadow
I mean the mods that got removed by 1~3 to be available as separate 'theme' addon on mod selection menu
And remove mod that conflict with them automatically when selected
jolly shadow
Maybe mod selection preset would be nice then
silver oriole
I mean that is similar to the insane and cruel packs in the spirit
If I some how make manager available to all platforms (which I doubt it) then maybe we can elaborate on this idea
jolly shadow
Yeah
silver oriole
Well I mean we can still do that
just it will be for windows (and those who can utilize manager) only
brittle spade
I am having some ideas that will potentially improve the modpacks as a whole (if...
I’d propose Cryptid’s should be Tier 4, i.e. depend on the T3 vouchers if they are installed
silver oriole
Thing is that Crimson seems to have a plan on revisiting tier 3 vouchers iirc, don't know if that will affect this
Also I should definitely add a Readme to manager github
silver oriole
Added a (brief) Readme
I will add visuals (screenshots) later when I am back to dorm
silver oriole
I am having some ideas that will potentially improve the modpacks as a whole (if...
Also, any ideas that will spice up the game is welcomed (like fun decks or challenges ideas etc.)
silver oriole
Since this is a modpack thread, they should revolve around the idea of collaboration between mods
silver oriole
I’d propose Cryptid’s should be Tier 4, i.e. depend on the T3 vouchers if they a...
I am not sure how can I achieve that actually
sonic harbor
actually is pretty shrimple
You can make a voucher require a certain voucher before appearing
so you just do money tier 3 then money beanstalk requires money tier 3
silver oriole
I would imagine it should also check if tier 3 vouchers is installed
So it should have a check before requires
silver oriole
does this work?
is_tier_3_vouchers = not (SMODS.INIT.Tier3Sub == nil)
silver oriole
so
if SMODS.Mods['Tier3Sub'] == true then
requires = {"v_Tier_voucher"}
I think so
silver oriole
now all i need to do is figue out what voucher is the next tier of what voucher
silver oriole
wait
after cryptid set it's priority to extremely low
does voucher tier affected?
what i mean is that since cryptid is loaded later than tier3 does the tier3 ones get to be applied first?
jagged flicker
I think so
silver oriole
then i don't need to worry about all these
well i should always try to test this before getting into conclusion
Nope
It does not work like that
also in tarot voucher and planet vouchers the cryptid ones are actually tier 3 and tier3 ones are tier 4
cryptid x6 and free, tier 3 voucher x8
brittle spade
I believe this is how it works without any modifications
I can probably add the Tier 4 thing myself today
silver oriole
This is what I have gathered
brittle spade
Right now, when the tier 2 voucher is purchased, both Cryptid’s and Crimson’s Tier 3 vouchers can spawn
So if you try again you will get different results
dense wharf
I can probably add the Tier 4 thing myself today
I can probably look into this later
Where is crimson’s T3 vouchers mod
rose swan
This game hated pairs
silver oriole
Known bug, waiting for mathguy to fix that
silver oriole
For some reason cruel blinds is making my game crash
I mean this
rose swan
This game hated pairs
Um
Pair hate here
Maybe the joker that gives poly joker per 4$ sell value when sold
is
doing something
silver oriole
No, that is not hand pair, it's code pair
cyan helm
If I some how make manager available to all platforms (which I doubt it) then ma...
@silver oriole maybe you could look into rewriting it in Java, with its Virtual Machine. I can help out with that if it's a direction you want to look into
silver oriole
Maybe later, but thanks for the heads up! I will keep it in mind
brittle spade
I'll make the cryptid vouchers depend on crimson's vouchers, and make tarot/planet acclimator apply *6 on what crimson's vouchers do
is the mod prefix for Tier 3 Vouchers just tier?
silver oriole
oh wait
dense wharf
think so just from what i can see
silver oriole
so it might just v_voucher_name
dense wharf
maybe I can do something with in_pool to make them not spawn if the mod is present
until the cimson vouchers are redeemed or something
dense wharf
oh that works
brittle spade
i think this should be good? just going to test on redeemed deck
just found out that mime retriggers raised fist
i think this is just a redeemed deck bug, but it works
ok I think it's perfect now
just pushed it out
urban wharf
I think you’ll need to adapt that load checking, pretty sure it’ll return true if the mod is turned off in game
silver oriole
And I am content with my modpack manager's readme right now
Might need to make it into mini wiki tho lmao
rose swan
ok I think it's perfect now
2 joker slots for... Almost free?
sonic harbor
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1210976027036352582/12650995016...
(Tier 3 Vouchers still need to be remade)
it's why I said the only thing that's available rn from it is the Dimserene fork in the modpack repo
sick cedar
is anyone else having platinum cards just not retrigger on super high probabilities?