[INACTIVE FORUM] JEN'S COLLECTION

[urban acorn]

???srsly what is that???

[elfin thicket]

also where is this menu actually

i can't find it in the options menu

[ripe gulch]

if you're using brainstorm, that's why

[elfin thicket]

oh for

theyre both in dimserenes modpack by default and i like the ctrl+a restart so like what do

[ripe gulch]

at this point it's not even a problem on my part anymore

it's brainstorm's problem

[solemn mantle]

hi, i need some help, i crash instantly when try booting up balatro
i have almanac and all optional mods for it (sdm and fusion) and latest versions of lovely and steamodded, idk what the issue is

[olive barn]

i don't have brainstorm-or at least i don't think i do. And I'm not sure where these settings are.

[ripe gulch]

if nopeus is installed correctly, the settings menu's Game tab should look like this

[olive barn]

there we go

i had it all in the collection folder still

[solemn mantle]

loading into a deck instantly crashes my game

[elfin thicket]

also is it intentional that incantation can't stack ex consumables

[ripe gulch]

you can configure the mod to allow stacking everything

[elfin thicket]

oh does it only work on planets/tarots by default

[ripe gulch]

Reminder : If you're crashing when starting a run, and the error is attempt to call method 'create' (a nil value); make sure Talisman is set to OmegaNum and restart the game

[solemn mantle]

how do i do that...?

[ripe gulch]

open settings, go to Spectral Pack tab, click on Talisman, and change score limit to OmegaNum, then restart

[solemn mantle]

thanks!

[fallow dragon]

Didnt even realize that was an option
Dibs

[gritty stratus]

I did not consider the implications of Ante x2. This is wild.

[naive fiber]

Yea but like I did not expect it to be a thing, it only goes up if it's destroyed by glass, card or other

[elfin thicket]

yeah i have no clue if this is an almanac thing but why does the fps just seem to randomly get better only when scoring cards

the fps like, actively drops while gaining money from cards and doesn't recover

it's weird to see

[ripe gulch]

throughout my numerous internal playtests i've never experienced memory leaks

but i think i might know why you're experiencing lag, i'll see if i can fix it in a future update

[ripe radish]

what would be the best way to keep this updated via git if possible?

🤔

curious

i know you can't just pull the original because it can't be nested

[vestal moth]

I don't think you can

[ripe radish]

😭

zamn..

[vestal moth]

I mean you cannot simply do git clone in command line, you will need extra works

Like bash/batch file or python script to unnest it

[gritty stratus]

Oh no. The event counter won't stop climbing. What have I done?

[elfin thicket]

ok i kind of understand why it doesn't work but chemach / the broken not increasing other almanac numbers is intriguing

[vague oyster]

just to add to the slowdown/memory leak situation, I've noticed some major slowdown when having Haro in inventory and opening packs? But that might be unrelated. It's not too problematic, just gotta restart the game every round or two.

...though it may be something else causing the lag, since I've sold Haro and packs still cause noticeable slowdown. Odd.

[ripe radish]

The one code card that does enhancements I don't think works with the new ones

[elfin thicket]

...hm, perkeo can copy joker abilities

[ripe radish]

Anyways fizzy card is busted as shit and I love it

[umbral solar]

my games fighting for its damn life here

welp

[grizzled cape]

...I'm wondering, can this mod reach Omeganum, or no?

[umbral solar]

well mine crashed so

[ripe gulch]

no, you still can't get even anywhere near e10##1000

[gritty stratus]

Yeah, I couldn't get past e10##65 on my first high score attempt.

[umbral solar]

yeah the score i posted is still infinitely smaller than the cap

[grizzled cape]

Zamn, I thought we could get somewhere with this mod, at least. 😔

[grizzled cape]

...That's actually not that far, I must say. Then again, I don't know much about "impossibly big numbers", so I don't know what the difference is between ##65 and ##1000.

[ripe gulch]

##65 is essentially less than zero compared to ##1000

[grizzled cape]

Damn, mostly is trying to recreate the Bibbl here. 😭

[gritty stratus]

To put it in some kind of perspective, one copy of godsmos scores #50k#64. Five copies, which seems to be the limit for my game, scores #75k#64

[torpid plinth]

You dare question the words of the mighty Jimmy

[gritty stratus]

I'm not sure how to push it past that.

[dusky night]

In fairness, so is #999

[dusky night]

You need a higher hyperoperator (^^^ or more)

[gritty stratus]

Hm. I'll test that when I finish this "normal" run. Getting e66 gold is a bit of a chore. When I was building toward godsmos I did end up with quite a few cards with the ^^^ operators along with other busted stuff. It didn't seem to be scoring high enough to really make a difference (like ##13-15 range) but I could be mistaken. Perhaps the combo is the key.

[glad briar]

https://googology.fandom.com/wiki/Googology_Wiki
This should help.

[glad briar]

I'll try to explain it here, though.
In general, a##b = a^^...^^a (with b ^s).
So, 3##65 = 3^^...^^3 (65 ^s); while 10##1000 = 10^^...^^10 (1000 ^s).

[grizzled cape]

...

I'mma sad, my brain hurt from too big numbers. :(

[glad briar]

Trust me. 10##1000 is PEANUTS compared to what I used to deal with.

Just be glad we haven't coded Rayo's number yet.

[umbral solar]

the -7% blind size ignores the "none" setting for pop-ups on nopeus

also new record for me

[viscid snow]

you can also do it by cloning to a seperate folder and symlinking the proper files/folders to unnest? Havent tried it yet though and idk how proton reacts to symlinks...

[gritty stratus]

You'd think this would have more of an effect, but it essentially makes no progress past e10#50k##64

Behemoth triggered

And high card played

[gritty stratus]

I'm tapping out. It's 50/50 whether the game will NOPE at this point, can't squeeze it any more.

[solemn comet]

seems like the limit is about e1##65?

[zealous mist]

cuz it triggers after godsmos

you would need effect on card scoring

[silk bloom]

not even close

[solemn mantle]

has anyone tried to abuse glitch edition behemoth?
cuz it does like 1.07 ^^^, right?

with good glitch rng you can get 1.60-1.70

wait no its just a flat ^^^1.77 mult and chips if 4 or more 7s

[ripe gulch]

just get saint and attune him

then use multiply on him a lot of times

[solemn mantle]

or spam generate gourmand

25 retriggers

[obsidian mica]

I'm scared to dupe gourmand because retriggers are often the cause of calculation crashes

[keen marsh]

Even if you added jokers strong enough to do that, the game would crash while trying to score it

[solemn mantle]

how close is this to omeganum?

[grizzled cape]

...Umm, I don't think it's even close, sorry m8. That number is #...#..., while what you're looking for is ##...., specifically ##1000.

[weary badger]

omeganum is e10##1000 (according to talisman’s setting), so i don’t think you’re even remotely close

[solemn mantle]

damn

god omeganum is unfathomably large

[vestal moth]

Always has been

[gloomy jay]

0%

[umbral solar]

if you want to get to omeganum simply make a new joker that gives you ^^^^^^10

and retrigger until you win

[ripe gulch]

^^^^^^10 is not going to get you anywhere no matter how many times you retrigger that

[elfin thicket]

you would need a scaling joker with {Mult}

which doesn't exist for a reason

[shut island]

is that tetration or pentation?

[ripe gulch]

it's n-tation

{100} = 100 arrows

3{100}3 = 3^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^3

[shut island]

OH.

btw is it possible to get to graham's number with jen's almanac?

it seems like the kind of mod unhinged enough to get there

[ripe gulch]

omeganum can't handle graham's number

it's far larger than that

[shut island]

well I guess that settles it

that also settles the sheer enormity of graham's number

[ripe gulch]

ExpantaNum can, but at this rate there's hardly any reason to bother porting it to balatro

[shut island]

we do it not because we must, but because it would be funny

[solemn comet]

E10##1000 aprroximatily equal 10{1000}10
so we need about E10###64 to get graham's number

that's with three hashes

[glad briar]

I'm seeing E[3]3##4#64 on the Googology wiki as an approximation.

[solemn comet]

hm. seems i underestimated the Power of hyper-E notation

[fallow dragon]

we need e3{e3#3#3}3 power

[urban scarab]

game crashes on staring a run

added SDM_0's stuff and fusion jokers to no avail

[glad briar]

Any ideas to why using Rework on a Bloodfoil Joker causes a crash when rerolling the shop?

[glad briar]

How do you get the Moire edition?

Is it just random chance or no?

@ripe gulch, how do I get a Moire edition card/Joker?

[dusky night]

That's less than G2

[urban scarab]

can someone decipher this for me

[glad briar]

3#33 = eee...ee3 (33 e's).
452.109#3#33 = 452.109#(3#33) = 452.109#(eee...ee3 with 33 e's).

[urban scarab]

that makes like 50% sense but thanks

[grizzled cape]

Don't think about it. Just think "mmmm, big number." It gives you a lot less of a headache. :)

[shadow plinth]

just downloaded the mod, is this a good hand?

it just crashed upon calculating 😔 i did get to see the score tho

it had 3 hashtags

all i can remember

[keen marsh]

Ah yes

The Bro and the Fatee

[shadow plinth]

oh hey that's the name of the mod

[urban scarab]

ah yes
man made numbers beyond my comprehension incoming

aaaand sagitarius a* crashed it

not suprised

[gritty stratus]

Hm. It shouldn't? What else is triggering on level up?

[shadow plinth]

got my score (game instantly crashed after)

this is like the max REASONABLE score

cause the other suit buffers create negative consumables

i wouldnt say max theres probably some wondergeist trickery you can do

but yeah this is the max im willing to go for

now how big is this exactly 😭 🙏

[gritty stratus]

Literally unimaginable. There is no frame of reference possible.

[shadow plinth]

Cool!

[glad briar]

Oh, there is a frame of reference.

[urban scarab]

i did the thing

[glad briar]

HOW DO YOU GET THAT?

[urban scarab]

deck of equilibrium mostly

and like 3 fusions

[gritty stratus]

Money.

[urban scarab]

game did not survive 160 jupiters

or playing a flush five

[glad briar]

What do you have to fuse to get that?

[urban scarab]

the 1 chip guy with godsmarble twice and then again with kosmos

[gritty stratus]

Enlighten me, haha. I was more joking that a number several several several quadrillion orders of magnitude bigger than the collective count of the smallest quantifiable thing in the universe has no basis in reality.

[urban scarab]

i can't even play 1 card man

come on

[gritty stratus]

Yeah, 4 is the limit for me. Even that's dicey.

[urban scarab]

i removed all but 1 with debug

[glad briar]

Oh, you mean Murph?

[gritty stratus]

Your deck is too big. It seems like every single thing loaded in the game takes away scoring potential at the tippy top.

Hand size too, Godsmos retriggers cards in hand.

[urban scarab]

Yeah i left in the joker that dupes 7s for a while and didn't notice

[glad briar]

Anyways, do any of you know how to get the Moire edition on a card/Joker?

[gritty stratus]

Haven't found it yet but I assume it's a low percent chance out of the AuraEX card.

[urban scarab]

Might go for it tomorrow. Dupe that and the card that gives + max selected cards and you should have a good shot

Only problem would be not crashing since you want a lot of hand size for that

[glad briar]

What does Shamura fuse with?

[gritty stratus]

Nah, looks like AuraEX is exclusively exotic editions.

Or the odds are so low that 250 cards wasn't statistically enough.

[shadow plinth]

NOOOO

its so over

happened when i tried to rework a bloodfoil blueprint btw

maybe it has something to do with the folder name? no idea

[dusky night]

That editions sound is broken

[shadow plinth]

rip..

[glad briar]

What's the fastest way for me to get cash in this mod?

[sand socket]

Scalae + Number Blocks maybe?

[elfin thicket]

oh does chad not work on chemach?

[glad briar]

Sounds good to me!

[sand socket]

idk

but Scalae NB was my strategy to get enough money for Godsmos speedruns

Multiply spam on any $ joker could also work but it’s slow, even with Nopeus

Since you need to use several hundred

[glad briar]

What about the 2 jokers that doubles values when you sell a joker that's rarer than uncommon?

It's hard to beat exponential growth (although, this mod does so in extreme ways).

[lusty oyster]

what mods do i need to get godsmos and the other jokers

[glad briar]

This one and Fusion Jokers.

[lusty oyster]

oh thanks

[obsidian mica]

I would think glitched scalae with compound interest

[glad briar]

I got Godsmos, then copied it by accident!

I got a bunch of other copies now.

FUUUUUUU---

[obsidian mica]

Balatro.exe has stopped responding

[elfin thicket]

also nopeus fast forward seems to break double scale?

[glad briar]

Alright got a single Godsmos now, just with a Rivulet + Blueprint. What does it mean when it gives {66}666 to Chips and Mult?

[elfin thicket]

bug: bulk using planet cards only increases constellation by +0.1x regardless of how many cards are stacked

[ripe gulch]

{66}666 = ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^666

[glad briar]

O_O

[ripe gulch]

x{y}z = x(y arrows)z

[glad briar]

Okay, thanks!

Also, up your game! You haven't hit the OmegaNum yet!

[ripe gulch]

who said i wanted to hit omeganum's limit?

[glad briar]

🤣

[ripe gulch]

the pandemonium is all you need

[glad briar]

Also, is it supposed to get an Etneral sticker when it gets the Blood(foil) edition?

[ripe gulch]

godsmos gives himself eternal

[glad briar]

Huh.

Another thing, how the hell does one get the Moire edition?

[ripe gulch]

extremely rare spawn, or you can use the ://REWORK code card

using rework on a joker with the blood edition will yield moire

[glad briar]

Uh... it crashes the game.

[ripe gulch]

i know, i'll tell you why

i made a small typo in the code, but you can fix it manually while you wait for the next update

it's a very easy fix, anyone can do it

[glad briar]

Okay. I'll wait until then. I'm excited for it! So much pi!

[ripe gulch]

open up the mod's lua with a text editor then look for this:
sound = 'e_moire',

change it to this:
sound = 'jen_e_moire',

then save, and the manual fix is complete

[glad briar]

I'll give it a shot!

IT WORKED! THANKS!

Now, can I use Rework on Godsmos, or will that crash the game?

[ripe gulch]

you can't rework eternals

[lost hatch]

Is randomness the only way to get the new Enhancements or do they have dedicated Tarots?

[ripe gulch]

they do not have any related tarots

[lost hatch]

So just finding cards that already have 'em (or getting 'em from Spectrals) then?

[ripe gulch]

yes

speaking of which, next update is going to include a few additional enhancements

the two which i've added recently are already pretty silly

[sand socket]

wait I just realized

using ://COMMIT on Fusion Jokers might break things

depending on how you have your rarities set up

[ripe gulch]

then fix it.

[glad briar]

Can you also find a way to get the Godsmos ambient sound to play normally as long as you just have the damn thing?

[ripe gulch]

godsmos doesn't have ambient audio

[glad briar]

When you play a card, it does.

[ripe gulch]

that's the ambience for ludicrously-high scores

[glad briar]

Oh.

[ripe gulch]

there's 5 new ambiences that play at various thresholds depending on how much you score

replacing the organ

[sand socket]

are all of your fusions rarity 6? if so I'll just exclude that rarity

[ripe gulch]

yes, with the jokers from Fusion Jokers itself being rarity 5

[sand socket]

I think keeping Fusion is fine, but going from The Saint (Attuned) to Godsmos is an issue

although I don't think Fusion would even work

[glad briar]

Where did you get that from?

[ripe gulch]

it's also why i've programmed nyx to not work with those rarities

[ripe gulch]

sources:

surreal ambience 1 and 2 : pixabay

surreal ambience 3 : deep rock galactic

dramatic ambience 1 and 2 : fortnite

[sand socket]

after rarity api, it should be fine

(regular fusions, not yours)

[glad briar]

How can I improve the rarity of Godsmos from Blood to Moire?

[umbral solar]

i havent tested everything but trying to get godsmos from a pointer card crashes the game

[elfin thicket]

seen in stream: mass production made a laminated card's cost go to $1e66 for some reason

[umbral solar]

thats happened to me a few times

also 6 godsmos was the limit

[solemn comet]

I dont' think that's right
that's 452.109#E3#33

[solemn comet]

if we just swap those hashes we graham

[silk bloom]

how

i couldnt get past 143k

[umbral solar]

5 godsmos

[silk bloom]

whats the editions and how many cards

[umbral solar]

they were just normal and i think like 13 cards?

[silk bloom]

crashes for me

so fun

[umbral solar]

it was very close to crashing

[silk bloom]

i cant even do 5 and 12

at this point i wonder if its pc specs

even 5 and 11 crashed

[zealous mist]

that was fixed in cryptid a few days ago

[sonic cove]

I've been having this error for a few days and no one has been able to help me it occures when an exotic joker appears

[ripe gulch]

this error is not related to any of my mods, try reporting it here: #1219749193204371456

[vagrant sierra]

trying to download this, how on earth does github work

what part of the page do you download the files from

[zealous mist]

green Code button, choose download zip

[vagrant sierra]

ah

[vagrant sierra]

heh

[solemn comet]

is that enough negatives

[vestal moth]

Never

[vagrant sierra]

oh god

[urban acorn]

do transcendent jokers work with that one code card that lets you change for the same rarity?

[fresh ingot]

i have another stack bigger than that

[urban acorn]

😭

[fresh ingot]

games going at 1 fps

[vagrant sierra]

at least you're not stuck opening spectral packs for the rest of your lifespan

[fresh ingot]

you could just get aan auto click and skip if you wanted too

[ripe gulch]

lol

[urban acorn]

i forgot the name of it 😭

[vagrant sierra]

commit?

[urban acorn]

yes

that one

[ripe gulch]

no, ://COMMIT's been designed to not work with them now

[fresh ingot]

imagine if you walked into a casino with 1172 playing cards and 99% of them where 7s LOL

ima reastart the game to rid of lag

because creating that many cards made my game go from like 60 fps to like 5 spf

[vagrant sierra]

did you have shikigami

[fresh ingot]

yes and i retriggerd it 25 times on accident

[vagrant sierra]

lol

[ripe gulch]

@fresh ingot do me a little favour, i need to know why your game's FPS tanks after a while of playing

i modified debugplus to have a new "Garbage" variable underneath the event manager counter

[fresh ingot]

so download this and try it otu to see if it stops?

[ripe gulch]

no, it's to monitor what's going on in the background

[fresh ingot]

oh ok

[ripe gulch]

"garbage" is memory in lua that's doing nothing, it's usually why FPS sometimes tanks

if you could also stream your game to me that would be most gentlemanly

[lost hatch]

Maybe there should be a feature that shifts tag redemption from automatic to manual.

[sand socket]

I wonder if "Garbage" is why very long calculations crash the game

[lost hatch]

inb4 there's an oscar the grouch joker that scales the more garbage the game has produced

[vagrant sierra]

diamond polygloss fizzy card is just pure yellow

[elfin thicket]

[worn flicker]

okay so I got a crash when I tried to use rework on Jen Walter, Wondergeist of Omnipotence. The Jen already had the blazing edition and when I used rework I got the tag and it said that it was going to be wavy. The game crashed when I rerolled the shop. Is this a bug because of reworking fusion jokers?

[elfin thicket]

it definitely seems to be something with garbage as it hit like ~90k

while the fps dropped to like 15

restarting the game drops it to ~30k and gives me framerate back

[worn flicker]

Also I think I have the same problem as @elfin thicket because after some time my game will become laggy and the cards start acting funny

[vagrant sierra]

wait is this supposed to be a gardevoir

[urban acorn]

Doesn't look like one to me

[elfin thicket]

this is fine, actually

[glad briar]

Found the broken strat to get insane money and it's not even in this mod! It's in the base Cryptid mod:

Compound Interest + Scalae

[worn flicker]

isnt that what everyone uses? you can get to like e308 in a few rounds with the right jokers

[glad briar]

I may be late to the party, but at least I'm here!
That, or I'm super-early.

[worn flicker]

I mean idk about everyone but thats what Ive been using even before this mod

[solar ibex]

rigged copypaste + payload spam is better though

[sand socket]

There might be no defined rarity color for Jen’s fusions

[worn flicker]

whats the best way to obtain a blood or moire edition playing card? what Im trying rn is getting a lot of quintuple tags and then transforming into standard packs and I have like 10 copies of the joker that gives more cards per pack. However after like 100 packs I still havent even gotten a blood card

[zealous mist]

rework tag from code card

oh wait

playing card

aura ex?

[worn flicker]

yeah cause jokers are easy

[worn flicker]

already using it

all the cards I get have editions but blood ig is just too rare

oh wait nvm wrong thing lol I thought you were talking about curate

[gloomy jay]

pretty sure its specifically excluded from the pool

[worn flicker]

I havent gotten aura ex yet

[gloomy jay]

and you need aura ex

[worn flicker]

to get aura ex can I just use perkeo or some dupe method on aura for it to transform?

[gloomy jay]

1 in 100 chance to be replaced with aura from a spectral pack

CAN be effected by oops all 6s

[worn flicker]

lol thats what Im trying rn I only got a deja vu ex so far

but I also got a pointer:// so fun

[lost hatch]

So Snow's AAAH?! It's Infinity!? would basically make everything with an EX form always EX-ify?

[ripe gulch]

yes

[ripe gulch]

this was changed to fixed 1 in 80

[gloomy jay]

🤔

can they spawn from stuff like seance and ghost deck

[vagrant sierra]

does that mean there's potential to have a primarina in the mod

[worn flicker]

also pointer isnt compatible with cards from this mod Ive tried on the non exotics and it doest work

[lost hatch]

There's also a Vaporeon ||don't say it don't think it|| so probably.

[vagrant sierra]

if this is who you're talking about, he's not a vaporeon, he's a character from cult of the lamb

[lost hatch]

Ah.

[vagrant sierra]

ye the sprite is a little weird, thought that too at first

[lost hatch]

I think pretty much any character's on the table as long as you can submit a face sprite that fits the specifications in the pinned message.

[vagrant sierra]

didn't know that, definitely going to try soon

[fallow dragon]

As long as you got a face sprite you cam submit it
Theres a specific submission channel in the Cryptid discord server actually

[ripe gulch]

it's based on rai (the artist)'s AU

[ripe gulch]

teaser

[gloomy jay]

wee perkeo when

[gloomy jay]

make this an achievement

[lost hatch]

Jolly Edition that gives +8 Mult if played hand contains a Pair and makes the card count as a Jolly Joker for the purposes of M effects when? XD

Actually maybe I should put that in the Cryptid suggestion box.

[weary badger]

finally…wee shader

[urban acorn]

perkeo but he's an even shorter king

[hearty cliff]

why does it have double scaling value?

[ripe gulch]

because of oversaturated while i was cycling through editions

[hearty cliff]

oh, makes sense

[glad briar]

I think I got all the final-form Ritualistic Jokers.

Foundry of Armaments,
Broken Collector of the Fragile,
Fateeater of Grim Nights,
Feline of Quietus,
Jester of Epidemics,
Pawn of Pandemonium,
Knight of Starvation,
Arachnid of War,
Paragon of Darkness,
Reign of Regicide,
and lastly (and most powerful of all) Godsmos.

Is that all of them?

Here's a screenshot before any of you say "Pics or it didn't happen."

[worn flicker]

is there a way to get moire on cards? I dont think so

[glad briar]

On Jokers, yes. It's just a roundabout way of doing it.
Get the Blood edition, use Rework on it, then refresh the shop.

[worn flicker]

yeah ik how to do it on jokers I do it all the time but cards is stumping me I dont think you can but I want to just for the flex lol

I mean if you have godsmos then moire is useless

[worn flicker]

whats your deck here?

[glad briar]

Deck of Equilibrium.

[glad briar]

I managed to get a Perkeo to copy the Pointer Spectral Code card, which is just the most overpowered combo ever.

[glad briar]

There should be something if you manage to get all those cards at once.

[obsidian mica]

pointer perkeo my beloved

[ripe gulch]

there already is; the achievement of making the game bend down on its knees

[glad briar]

Also, I think a nice balance change would be for the Chemach and Broken Collector of the Fragile jokers should NOT work with other Ritualistic jokers.

[ripe gulch]

they are already immune to chemach

[glad briar]

Obviously. However, I was thinking maybe a True Final Fusion or a custom achievement?

[glad briar]

What about its evolution (fusion with Godsmarble)?

[ripe gulch]

it's the same thing

[glad briar]

Huh.

[ripe gulch]

chemach (and the broken, by extension) can't affect any jokers that have immune_to_chemach = true in their definition

[glad briar]

Well, that explains a bit.

Then, how do I get hundreds of consumables at once when I have all of those jokers I listed before?

[left stag]

does this mod have any double scale/scalae type jokers?

[ripe gulch]

if you're talking about the pawn creating tarots and etc, that's because the scored cards are retriggering

which activates the effect over and over

[glad briar]

Those are in the Cryptid mod.

[left stag]

i know

im asking if there exists any jokers in this mod that function similarly

[ripe gulch]

chemach.

[glad briar]

Right. I got a King with Echo, a Red Seal, and Rigged on it, so that might be it.

BTW, I did that on my Legendary Exodia seed (11135IT7).

😁

[obsidian mica]

The real way to beat balatro is to get a build so strong you crash the game calculating your score

[glad briar]

@ripe gulch, you think you can change the Paragon of Darkness to have the same property of "drag to rightmost position to disable" that Nyx Equinox has?

[ripe gulch]

it's in next update

[glad briar]

Does Godsmos really give {66}666 Chips and Mult 66 times or is it only once?

[zealous mist]

it does that when card scored, held in hand and for every joker

[bold wadi]

is this good /silly

[bold wadi]

i tried selling the jokers and it created like 900 copies of said jokers

[vagrant sierra]

can i have the link to that for when i'll make one (also sorry for the ping)

[vagrant sierra]

time to crash the game with speculo

[lost hatch]

Will there be a Ritualistic Joker that does what the Fateeater, Foundry, and Broken Collector do but with Code Cards? 🤔

[eager dock]

👀

it would be so awesome....

it would be so cool....

[lost hatch]

I'm guessing the terminology used for consuming the Code Cards would be that the ability despawns them or deletes them.

[lost hatch]

Oof, ://CLASS still doesn't work on the new Enhancements.

[ripe gulch]

Aurinko

v0.4.1

• Removed pitch-shifting of apply sound effects
• Fixed crashes regarding editions with Talisman-exclusive variables
• Change way the mod applies editions to planets to avoid "ghost editions" (ex. negative card plays polychrome edition sound)

[elfin thicket]

question: would you disapprove of me making a standalone addon mod that adds "Deck of <XXX>" for the Almanac enhancements / editions

We need to go a level deeper with mods

also gilded deck sounds like it would be deliciously unplayable

[ripe gulch]

a standalone mod just for that sounds unnecessary

[sand socket]

it's better to merge that with cryptid or jen's almanac

[ripe gulch]

i'd prefer it if it was integrated into cryptid instead

it makes more sense

[elfin thicket]

I mean I can do that too

I more meant if you minded it existing considering exotic editions are meant to be, well, exotic

[ripe gulch]

why are you concerned with balance regarding a mod that is literally designed to bring the game down to its knees

[wanton flame]

deck of moire 🙂

[ripe gulch]

Fun-Size Deck : All cards are Wee cards

[zealous mist]

misprint deck- Oh wait

[ripe gulch]

deck of sequin = market exchange simulator

[gritty stratus]

Crib Deck: Hands only score if they contain pairs, runs of 3 or more or total ranks add to 15 or 31.

[sand socket]

The deck for that M shader is going to be funny too

Meck - All cards are M

[zealous mist]

yeah it's a silly one

[solemn mantle]

what happened to EX consumables

[elfin thicket]

i was told not to make a ritualistic joker pack so i assumed there was some limits

[gloomy jay]

probably because ritualistic isn't exactly a "rarity"

for most purposes their considered exotic

[orchid plume]

Hey, what do I do about a bad argument to newdecoder? It doesn't happen when Jen's Almanac isn't installed

[worn flicker]

bro I cant with these stake difficulties anymore

[lost hatch]

Are they at least replaced with Jokers of equal rarity?

[zealous mist]

just skip it

what's the big deal

[zealous mist]

nope its random

[lost hatch]

Good thing you can still skip it then.

[wanton arrow]

when i launch balatro with the collection and incantation i get crashes

[marble sand]

You need to add e_misprint.ogg and e_wee.ogg on sound folder

[ripe gulch]

Jen's Almanac

v0.0.3a-pre1

Cryptid version required: 0.5.0~pre2

• Added thorough description to Hoxxes
• Temporarily disabled Artificer, undergoing a rework
• Fixed Kudaai bloating the event queue
• Some other bugfixes
• Fixed Moire causing a crash
• New EX cards; Familiar, Grim, Hex
• Added Misprint and Wee editions
• Increase consumable slot limit by 198

Known issues:

• Wee edition may not render correctly on cards with floating sprites, like Legendarys or Exotics

(If you downloaded the mod before I announced this message, you might be missing two sound files. Just redownload it, they're in there now)

[lost hatch]

So if there's a Wee Edition that makes cards small and makes them scale with 2s, will there be a Square Edition that squashes/stretches the card to a square and makes it scale with four-card hands? A Fibonacci Edition that shows as a golden spiral and makes the card scale with Fibonacci-numbered cards? A Misprinted Edition that shifts the card's art a bit with some wraparound and randomizes its values between 0 and 23 times the base value with every activation? There's probably potential for more, but that's what I could think of.

Actually wait, I think I see Misprinted already there next to Wee in the teaser where you showed it in the Collection.

Oh LOL

Great timing, me.

I was looking at earlier messages when I typed that.

Did I guess Misprint's effects correctly?

[ripe gulch]

misprint gives the card a random, unknown amount of +chips, xchips, ^chips, +mult, xmult and ^mult

[lost hatch]

That's way more powerful than what I was thinking.

Nice.

[ripe gulch]

making it randomise between 0 to 23x values is just a glorified glitched edition

[lost hatch]

TBF once it's Glitched it stays at that value forever.

[ripe gulch]

"forever"

[lost hatch]

I'm sure there's exceptions to the rule but you get what I mean. It's not a per-activation thing, it's a (usually) one-time-per-that-specific-instance-of-that-card thing.

Also woo! New EXes! I take it Hex EX is Moire-related? Or does it Poly all your Jokers?

[ripe gulch]

because most jokers in the mod with that "rarity" (or better) have an internal rarity of 6, and it's also a design choice

plus, it defeats the point of the godsmarble

if you can just grab a godsmarble-fusion joker from a ritualistic pack straight away, what's the point of holding onto a godsmarble when i can just use rerolls in most cases to just get the pack

it doesn't make sense

[lost hatch]

I think I mentioned the idea of a pack containing Marble-able Jokers and Godsmarble when the idea of a Ritualistic/Transcendent Pack was first discussed.

[ripe gulch]

then it also defeats the point because it's meant to be scarce

[elfin thicket]

Maybe it's just because I almost exclusively play with DoE but like

if i wanted ritualistics i just need enough dolans

[ripe gulch]

i still don't want a pack related to them existing, it breaks the flow

[lost hatch]

Fair. I take it you'd still feel that way if it were rarer than the Exotic Pack and super expensive (like at least $1000)?

[gloomy jay]

+198 consumeable limit 🤔 intresting

[ripe gulch]

i don't care what the price or the spawn rate of the pack is, i don't want to see it at all

[lost hatch]

Yeah. I didn't know there was a limit on how many slots you could have.

[lost hatch]

Why did I read that like Dan telling the supermodel he's not paying taxes?

[gloomy jay]

the entire point of ritualistic jokers is that you have to fuse them

[ripe gulch]

if you can just grab godsmarble-fused jokers straight out of a pack, you basically have budget debugplus

and that's boring

there's no satisfaction to it

it's just given to you

exotic packs are fine, especially considering the saint now exists

[worn flicker]

do you plan on adding jokers higher tier than gosmos? because everytime I use it my game is laggy

but its so cool

[ripe gulch]

no, you don't need nor want anything better than godsmos.

[worn flicker]

ok thats good on one part but I am guessing that there will be more fusion jokers added with godmarble or something else?

[ripe gulch]

the target is 500 jokers

give or take

[lost hatch]

Just checked Hex EX. Makes sense.

[trail heath]

Let’s be realistic here, how are you actually going to make that many jokers? There are a ton of fan OC’s to use but not 500. And your gonna need a heavily optimized workflow to do this in any decent time frame.

[gloomy jay]

youd be suprised

you can see artists with like a hundred ocs

[trail heath]

Just seems like he’s shooting for the stars before even knowing if it’s possible

I feel like feature creep will also be an issue for this mod.

[elfin thicket]

???

[ripe gulch]

you have jen's almanac 0.0.2a, latest is 0.0.3a-pre1

[elfin thicket]

i literally just pulled it from dimserene's modpack, does that not download the latest version??

[ripe gulch]

then complain to them, not me

[nocturne hamlet]

If you just pulled it, Dimserene's pack uses frozen versions, so no chance you got the update

[ripe gulch]

does it look like i'm in a rush?

[gloomy jay]

hello boo from aitg discord

[nocturne hamlet]

Hello Ookie from that Discord

[trail heath]

No, but that’s the issue. I don’t want you to rush, but with a lack of roadmap, few demo updates, and not even a general release date, this isn’t looking very good.

[ripe gulch]

this is modding, not game development, there's a large difference, and feature creep is generally what modding is

[elfin thicket]

also apparently jen's almanac makes you have 200 consumable slots by default now?

[trail heath]

We don’t even know if your planning to release after all 500 are completed or whenever else

[elfin thicket]

at least i think it's almanac

[ripe gulch]

yes. #1262697083438235729 message

[elfin thicket]

yeah it is

[trail heath]

I understand it’s not game dev but it’s still not a good idea to leave your player base in the dark on basic goals.

[lost hatch]

I thought there was somehow a limit on your maximum consumable slots, but nope, it just boosts your slots to 200.

[ripe gulch]

this is a hobby project, i just want to work on what i want

what's better; just letting me do what i want, or sit here and demotivate me by trying to say it's unfeasible to be doing what i like

[gloomy jay]

I assume 200 consumable slots is so you can store everything

this is a win for trance deck

[trail heath]

I’m not demotivating you I’m telling you that you need to set goals bro, this will take years to complete if you just say “I’m gonna do 500 jokers.” It’s like a kid saying they will go to space but not thinking about how they might get themselves there

[elfin thicket]

even if it takes years, like

they're having fun doing it

[trail heath]

Setting goals creates more fun though

[ripe gulch]

not for me.

[trail heath]

That’s how the brain works

Aight bro

[ripe gulch]

i like to work anonymously and just show what i'm cooking when the time is right

setting goals is the complete opposite of what i want

i tend to make a lot of twists and turns during development, so imagine me setting a goal and then a few days later the goal becomes infeasible because i've derailed development onto something else

[trail heath]

Sounds like an awful workflow lol

[ripe gulch]

so much coming from a person who's "pretty relaxed"

[trail heath]

We getting personal now?

I hate seeing other potential fall short

[ripe gulch]

just let me do what i want, i never asked to be realistic nor do i want to turn my hobby into a job

[trail heath]

Aight cool

[elfin thicket]

changing the subject,

working on this

it's funny how you can kind of tell how big a joker's atlas is just by looking at the prismatic deck shader

[trail heath]

Hell ya, you gonna do the rest of the editions as decks too?

[elfin thicket]

yeah i just wanted to make sure my code works

[trail heath]

Cool

[lost hatch]

You can?

[elfin thicket]

the prismatic shader is a lot flashier on jokers with larger atlases

[solemn comet]

why is it doing that. why are the costs all even numbers

[elfin thicket]

compare ascension (only card on its atlas) with buffoon pack (includes all vanilla packs) and the common buffoon pack (all on one atlas laid out horizontally so it stretches the rainbow effect)

[naive fiber]

3am rave party

[elfin thicket]

party rock is in the house tonight

[solemn comet]

party rock ist ehia betn ahoues rfvoahstingfaehtv

[solemn mantle]

im unsure if its an issue with almanac or cryptid, but i keep getting a crash regarding exotics

[ripe gulch]

it's a problem with cryptid

[solemn mantle]

ah ok

[elfin thicket]

wait i've just realised. misprint deck

ambiguity wOO

put a subtitle of "(not that one)" on it, that'll fix it

[solemn mantle]

what dat mean

[ripe gulch]

Deck of Misprints

[elfin thicket]

Misprint Deck (randomised numbers) vs. Misprint Deck (deck of all Misprint cards)

[solemn mantle]

ah

oke

:O

[elfin thicket]

i think it's funny that there's two misprint decks so

[solemn mantle]

MISSPRINT^2

[elfin thicket]

one is 'cry-Misprint' and the other is 'cry-jen-misprint' so it's probably fine

[solemn mantle]

i kinda want a mix of missprint and equilibrium deck

that isnt antimatter

with all the other junk

[ripe gulch]

then suggest it to cryptid

[solemn mantle]

they take suggestios?!??!?

[ripe gulch]

of course they do

[lost hatch]

I mean, the deck of Glitched cards used to be called Misprint Deck 2. Could use that name.

[solemn mantle]

maybe call it error deck

[lost hatch]

Call it the mal DeckPerfectly Nor

LOL

[solemn mantle]

i want a mrbeast deck wich just gives you insane money

[distant sand]

Anyone got any ideas as to what is happening here?

[elfin thicket]

right let's see if this code i wrote works first try

the answer is no

Okay this one isn't even my fault

[solemn comet]

bri'ish

[elfin thicket]

well yeah, "watercoloured" kind of gives that away

[distant sand]

This is how the mod folder is oriented rn if that is needed.

[solemn comet]

you need the correct names for Steamodded and Cryptid

someone from fusion jokers can say if the fusion jokers one is right

[distant sand]

so i need to rename the cryptid folder to just Cryptid and steamodded to just Steamodded?

[solemn comet]

yeah. maybe also fusion jokers

[distant sand]

aight, i'll check with them and see if it needs to be renamed too

[elfin thicket]

okay so i got... most of the edition/enhancement decks working

crystal and blood crash for some reason, and multichip/powerchip/multimult/powermult/supercharged crash on hover for some reason

everything else works

[distant sand]

renamed cryptid and talisman to proper names, does Fusion-Jokers need to be named Fusion-Jokers-Fixed or should it just be named Fusion-Jokers

[ripe gulch]

fusion jokers shouldn't need a rename

[distant sand]

cool. any ideas on what the crash might be caused by though?

[ripe gulch]

is talisman's score limit set to omeganum?

[distant sand]

i havent gotten past the main screen yet, is there a file i needa open and set it to manually from the game files?

[elfin thicket]

80% of them working first try isn't bad

[elfin thicket]

Would it be possible to just make Alamanac force omeganum on

[ashen plaza]

where do i. download the mod

[distant sand]

its at the top of the thread

[ashen plaza]

why isnt that pinned

[distant sand]

open the github, follow the instructions the README lists, and you should be alright

[ashen plaza]

i feel like that should be pinned

[distant sand]

dont ask me, im new here

[ashen plaza]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1262697083438235729/1262697083438235729

[distant sand]

opened balatro with only talisman enabled, and the setting for bigger numbers is on, but the issue still keeps happening 😔 not sure what to do

[odd cedar]

anyone have any ideas as to what this crash report means. The only mods i have installed are the ones reccomended to use with jens alm. I'm not quite sure why. when i remove jens alm from my mod folder it boots up fine any pointers as to whats going on?

[ripe gulch]

already fixed, redownload the mod

[odd cedar]

OH

got it! willl do

[distant sand]

nvm, was using the wrong version of talisman

release 1.2.2 wasnt up to date with main

[worn flicker]

is it normal that my whole game closes when I use an EX planet with godsmos? is my computer bad or is the game tweaking cause the game isnt crashing its closing

[glad briar]

Where is the download for this?

[elfin thicket]

aha, i've figured out why blood and crystal decks crash the game

[ripe gulch]

github

[glad briar]

Link?

[ripe gulch]

https://github.com/jenwalter666/JensBalatroCollection/tree/main

[worn flicker]

holy shi hes tiny

[lost hatch]

Wee Wee Joker

I wonder what a Misprint Misprint looks like...

[worn flicker]

is this beatable? I cant beat it because my game closes when I have two gosmos or any amount of retriggers on him. The highest Ive gotten is ##64

ok I think this is the coolest card Ive ever seen

btw at ante 428,032 you need e10#99##999 to win

[lost hatch]

How close to the Omeganum limit is that? Still basically 0?

[worn flicker]

idk compared to the omeganum limit but I do know that we cant achieve that score in game 💀

[left stag]

well there's something to admit

e10##1000 is NOT the limit

you can go farther

until your game stops working

[worn flicker]

bro how is it not the limit when our score cant even get that high because the game crashes

[ripe gulch]

technically speaking, the omeganum library can reach e10##9,007,199,254,740,991 if it's not restricted

[worn flicker]

and can godsmos quantify to that?

[ripe gulch]

no, and the library's restricted to ##1000 for a reason

[worn flicker]

ah man ig I can never beat ante e100

[ripe gulch]

as numbers get so large they take up more memory

it gets harder for the computer to process them well

[worn flicker]

would there be a way to calculate through rough aproximation and rounding? Like coming up with a system that doesnt brute force the calcs but dumbs it down to a sort of basic arithmetic related with the number of #

unless thats what it alr does

[ripe gulch]

omeganum already drops a lot of precision to present the numbers

[solar crystal]

you got to ##65?

[worn flicker]

how the hell did they get to ##65

[solar crystal]

probably major godsmos retrigger

[ripe gulch]

it's also the reason why godsmos causes crashes very often; {66}666 repeated too many times often makes balatro have a heart attack

[worn flicker]

yeah but even with that the highest Ive seen was 6 godmos' and the score was still ##64

[worn flicker]

lol I cant even use planets when I have godsmos

[solar crystal]

2 godsmos and a gourmand maybe?

that's likely way too much

[worn flicker]

even with that 6 godmos would be stronger no?

[solar crystal]

but iirc multiply doesn't work on it

[solar crystal]

would it?

[worn flicker]

multiply doesnt work on it no

[worn flicker]

well I think I mean they all retrigger themselves and the cards and theres more stacking (66)666

does godsmos retrigger itself?

like if you have two they retrigger but alone?

[sand burrow]

if Code Joker isn't broken with incantation, payload is probably the fastest way with seeded?

cause you just spam multiply your interest until you have a ton and it doesn't even completely destroy the game

[glad briar]

Hey, where did the sounds from the previous version go?

The ambience effects?

@ripe gulch, can you pop onto my livestream for a bit? I could use a little help trying to get the ambience effects back.

[trail heath]

I just installed Cryptid-main, talisman-main, and Almanac 0.0.3a~pre2

gets this crash on launch the moment I update from Almanac version 0.0.1a to the latest

runs just fine with every other required mod loaded but not the new Almanac

Tried running it with Talisman's latest release build and it gives the exact same error message

I am absolutely sure these two version are not the same, so idk whats up

here is what my mods folder looks like rn

had to cut off the top portion cus my literal name is on it lol. but Its located in C:\Users\obigo\AppData\Roaming\Balatro\Mods here

[vagrant sierra]

@ripe gulch where can i submit a face sprite (when i actually make one later)

can i send it here or in your dms or is there somewhere else specifically for that

[lost hatch]

Apparently The Monster ignores Eternal.

[trail heath]

ok, I fixed the crash somehow. Apparently the only way for Almanac 0.0.3a~pre2 to run is for me to have Cryptid 0.5.0-pre (not the second one.) and talisman 2.0.0-beta5, which is only found in the this older version of Cryptid.

its now running just fine without crashes at launch at least

[ripe radish]

I mean

Are we talking the blind?

Or is it something else

[lost hatch]

The Blind. It destroyed Freddy's Joker Ability, which made him useless since I didn't have the synergy.

Didn't pop back up either. Sadge.

[trail heath]

love me some crashes mid run. Used a rework tag on a blood edition card to get moire and after some other tags, when the game tried to use the rework tag it crashed. I tried again and it crashes again.

[ripe gulch]

report that to the blind creator

[dusky night]

That's MystBlinds I believe

[ripe gulch]

i'll introduce something in next update to stop other sources from trying to destroy joker abilities

[solemn mantle]

trying to death a moire card straight up kills balatro

no crash screen

it just closes

okay, just PLAYING a moire crashes the game

[ripe gulch]

cryptid issue, report it here

[lost hatch]

Yeah I originally mean to post that in the Dimserene's Modpack channel but apparently I'm an idiot who can't tell which is which.

[elfin thicket]

is it intentional that crystal and laminated jokers use the same shader now??

[trail heath]

I fixed that same issue last night. You gotta download cryptid 0.5.0-pre not the pre2 version. Even though that should make almanac not work it did for me.

[marble sand]

@ripe gulch I have some shaders to show you if you are interested.

[vestal flame]

how do you download from git lol

[glad briar]

What happened to the ambience effects? Are they gone?

[vagrant sierra]

like this

(green "Code" button --> Download Zip)

[vestal flame]

ahh ty,couldda swore i clicked that one but guess not, thanks!

[solemn mantle]

did you turn on omeganum?

[vestal flame]

idt i turned anything on i just put the mods in my mod folder and the game wont load lol

[solemn mantle]

can you go to options ingame?

[vestal flame]

no the game crashes while tryna launch lol

[solemn mantle]

when you try to go into a deck, right?

[vestal flame]

no like

launch the file

balatro

the game crashes

[solemn mantle]

idk then

sry

[vestal flame]

maybe cus i was in a run

idk

that run was also semi soft locked whenever i rolled once opr twice it crashed

[ripe gulch]

no.

[glad briar]

Well, I don't hear them for some reason.

[ripe gulch]

[glad briar]

Can you possibly change the Jester, Knight, and Pawn Jokers from "when scored" to "when played?"

[ripe gulch]

why?

[vagrant sierra]

someone stop me

[solemn mantle]

wondergeist has a fucking SEZURE when you use a planet for some reason

[vagrant sierra]

i didn't even have wondergeist

that's what happens when you use several glitched cryptids on a card with white hole as the enhancement

[solemn mantle]

use cryptid EX, trust mež

140 cards base, with a good glitch 1.4k

an N-tation joker that isnt godmos would be great

[vagrant sierra]

i did that once with a card enhanced as pointer

it did not end well for the game

[solemn mantle]

idk why but i just love using beheamoth

run i just crashed on i had like 7 gourmands and a 15^^^ beheamoth

[vagrant sierra]

ayanami moment

[solemn mantle]

wait

does pure leveling have less crashes than retriggering beheamoth/saint?

[vagrant sierra]

:P

why does my deck look like that now

[distant sand]

i already fixed the issue, it had nothing to do with pre2

its an issue tied to talisman's omeganum setting, which if you dont download from main and instead download the latest version you dont have it in your download folder

idk why it is there but i've already brought it up in the talisman mod thread so hopefully in later releases of talisman its not the case

[solemn mantle]

stronk boi

[glad briar]

Extreme lag when combo'd with other Ritualistic Jokers.

[glad briar]

Pentation is so fucked.

[vagrant sierra]

why can perkeo copy joker abilities

why can perkeo copy joker abilities

why can perkeo copy joker abilities

[ripe gulch]

it's intentional design

[ripe gulch]

that's the point

[vagrant sierra]

also, since you're here, can i ask you where i can submit face sprites (when i actually make them) again? i don't think you saw it the previous time

[solemn mantle]

ermmm

we be doin some LEVELIN

[glad briar]

Then, maybe try and make it trigger when you get one in your consumable slots?

Maybe that could work as a compromise?

[solemn mantle]

(ignore my ante pls)

[ripe gulch]

if you're in the cryptid discord, there is a forum called #jens-almanac-submissions

[vagrant sierra]

can i have the invite link?

[zealous mist]

https://discord.gg/eUf9Ur6RyB

[solemn mantle]

welp, there goes my ultra leveling run 😭

i was abusing run code card to force speculo to further copy

also using ankh EX on wondergeist crashes game

smthn related to color

and yet another crash, got like 70 meteor tag, tried going into blind and it killed itself!

[ripe gulch]

@elfin thicket updated cryptid to add my editions as decks. now you can play with fun-size balatro deck

[elfin thicket]

🫵 SMALL

Unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to get the enhancement decks working

[ripe gulch]

honestly the edition decks need a refactor

because the editions increasing the price of everything is kind of

oof

[sand socket]

Balanced

Love how there’s Misprint Deck (no, not that one)

[elfin thicket]

so we have small edition, can we get big edition
Retriggers 9 times if last played hand contains a Pair

[solemn mantle]

methisfun why is that one code card which lets you choose anything a spectral card

[elfin thicket]

it's analogous to Soul and Black Hole

soul is a spectral tarot, black hole is a spectral planet... so pointer is a spectral code card

[solemn mantle]

oh

damn

i cant abuse that one joekr which gives a 1 in 2 chance to give u back a code card when u use it with poiter tho :(

[sand socket]

Perkeo:

[solemn mantle]

ok but

ermmm

thats limited

[sand socket]

Perkeo Canvas:

[solemn mantle]

still

its not as much dopamine as getting a free canvas and then getting pointer back INSTANTLY

[sand socket]

lmao

Just write a payload in ACE to do that /j

[zealous mist]

that might be unplayable because UI could partially be blocked

[solemn mantle]

methisfun can we get more cat jokers?

[sand socket]

Imagine Big edition on Big

[sand socket]

If you want them make them

[elfin thicket]

Big Wee Joker

[zealous mist]

yea there's 3 now

comical

[sand socket]

Such a good idea it’s been done thrice

[solemn mantle]

wait there was 2?

[sand socket]

Glitched Deck

[ripe gulch]

blaze deck is pretty much a joke

[elfin thicket]

👍

[lost hatch]

Y'know, the fact that n-ation is a thing makes me wonder, what's stopping x-ation from being a thing? Surely it's possible to plug a non-natural number into the hyperoperation thingy and get new wacky results, right? People have done the same with all sorts of other math things that you're only supposed to put natural numbers into, such as factorials and the Fibonacci sequence.

[solemn mantle]

erm

idk

[left stag]

it's not really defined

would have to look on the internet to find a common interpretation

[worn flicker]

is the new update compatible with this mod (ik its a retexture but idk maybe the game breaks?

[solemn mantle]

yes

[worn flicker]

thx

What are the strats for a godsmos speedrun?

[sand socket]

Natural Kosmos -> fast Godsmarble/Jen and some sort of money Strat (scalae+number blocks?)

I tried for a bit and got like an 11 min time but it’s a very RNG category

[worn flicker]

okay thx

Im guessing you use wormhole deck?

actualy no because then you wouldnt have the slots unless you scale money before godsmarble/jen

[sand socket]

Antimatter

Maybe CCD is faster though

[worn flicker]

okay but like not the op decks like anti or doe ccd is also strong af

Im trying on just a normal deck to see what I can do

[ripe gulch]

fun fact; you can get unlimited planets if you get ayanami on an edition deck other than negative

[worn flicker]

why?

[obsidian mica]

oh god

[worn flicker]

I mean like how

[urban acorn]

oh dear

what are those

i know the reference in Stray

yeah these are all from another mod

[ripe gulch]

they're ||reverse versions of tarots from the autumn circus||

[urban acorn]

knew it

[ripe radish]

I miss the autumn circus

https://tenor.com/view/metro-man-super-speed-goodbye-cool-gif-11549314578592332628

gone too soon

[ripe gulch]

also, stray is not meant to be a reference to the game of the same name

or something else

i just thought the name fit

[obsidian mica]

Ayanami's effect creates 3 negitive copies of used non negative planet cards
If you use a deck say deck of mult, the holographic edition will replace the negative edition on the created copies, allowing the joker to make copies using the created copies, = infinite planets

[worn flicker]

oh yeah okay

but you wouldnt get the blackhole effect

[obsidian mica]

no

it wouldnt create black holes

because the black holes are created when negatives are used

[ripe gulch]

the point though is that it'd exponentiate quickly

[obsidian mica]

get like whatever joker it was that makes planets level up all hands + universum (or, wondergeist, omniscientent jen or godsmos) and you dont even need the black holes

[ripe gulch]

you can very quickly hit 9e15 in a stack with the combo

which also means that's a lot of econ

[worn flicker]

but cant you just use like omniscient jen or something with a single black hole and it would be stronger then that strat?

[elfin thicket]

ayanami even without the exploit is kinda cracked econ since it turns one planet card into, what, 15 black holes?

[ripe gulch]

omegaomnipotent jen + aster works in the same way

[obsidian mica]

yeah

[elfin thicket]

that's like $60 if you just sell the black holes

[ripe gulch]

yes

and that's intentional

[worn flicker]

damn

[obsidian mica]

exhibit a: me making a singularity

[worn flicker]

what do you guys think is the best joker for the highest stake for consistency

[ripe gulch]

jen

[worn flicker]

bruh

[ripe gulch]

lol

[obsidian mica]

seeded gros michel is really good

[distant sand]

its cryptid it balances out, you get one joker or skip tag and you nuke your pc a few minutes down the line

jokes aside it does make sense to rework them a bit

they kinda just.... explode?

some editions like glitched also become a walking memory leak

i had to reboot my game like four times just to get to the p oint of crashing the game by sheer stupidity rather than by running out of memory

[ripe gulch]

glitched causes a memory leak?

[distant sand]

yea

i found my game running slower and slower the further in i got when i had glitched cards

[ripe gulch]

you should report that here: #1219749193204371456

[distant sand]

i'll make sure to do that

oh yeah, are the jen's addon edition decks in the almanac now?

i've been waiting for the moment where i could assemble the oops all 2s exodia

[ripe gulch]

samario made an update to cryptid which adds the necessary decks if you have almanac

[distant sand]

where would i find it? is it on cryptid's github?

[ripe gulch]

yes, download source

[distant sand]

cool, thanks

[urban acorn]

i am aware of this

[silk bloom]

Are you considering ease of obtaining?

I'd say maybe guilduryn idk

[umbral solar]

i think moire should be given a new coat of paint cause rn it really hurts my eyes

[gritty stratus]

Oh hell no. That's gotta be a typo. ##64 is the limit as far as my game stability is concerned. I kinda burned myself out a bit trying to squeeze every last retrigger out of the game and then someone immediately got an extra 10k before the double sharp. I think the highest score I have seen was that one at e10#145000(ish)##64.

[fallow dragon]

This golden three feels extra golden

[plain wharf]

Not sure if i should post this here in the cryptid post but i tried to create Godsmos using pointer:// and this happened

[ripe gulch]

that's a cryptid problem, also pointer:// was designed in mind to not work with exotics or better, godsmos being one of the things it shouldn't work with

[plain wharf]

Yeah I noticed it saying that after I found it in the collection

Didn't expect it to crash tho

[elfin thicket]

I mean to be fair the wording of pointer technically excludes only exotics...

so I can understand why it would be expected to work

[ripe gulch]

again, if it's something from cryptid that's causing problems, it should be going here: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1219749193204371456

it's getting a little tiring to see cryptid reports in here

[vagrant sierra]

ayanami.

[keen marsh]

Is ayanami infinite money

Surely you can do some infinite with it

[zealous mist]

only on editioned decks

but why would u need ayanami when compound interest is a thing

[keen marsh]

Yeah that's true

[vagrant sierra]

if you can get multiple like i did, yes

[solemn mantle]

compound intrest + that one joker with rigged one it which duplicates code cards + the double code card goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[zealous mist]

balanced

copypaste might need to have fixed probability

[solemn mantle]

nooooooooooooo

cryptid is supose to be unbalance!

[vestal flame]

alr looked into this by removing and adding one by one and its only the "jen" folder that crashes the game

[gritty stratus]

Hm. Not sure if this is a cryptid issue or almanac. I had canvas retriggering supercell 3 times and chad being retriggered by canvas also retriggering a blood edition supercell. This caused the score to simply not count and when I tried investigating the cause I got an irrecoverable crash.

I just updated everything and I'm only using mods compatible with almanac (I think...) and cosmetics.

Oh that wasn't a crash log. Weird.

...guess I don't have one. Sorry.

[sand socket]

There was an issue where scores around the eee6-eee15 range sometimes didn’t register, that might be what you are facing

[gritty stratus]

I can confirm that. Debugged the same setup and it was that very particular combo. Every other arrangement scored.

Couldn't get it to crash again.

Probably unrelated.

[worn flicker]

Talking about pointer:// it doesnt create certain things like for example Ex consumables and legendaries from almamac same with enhancement it cant give enhancments from alamanac, is this on purpous or a bug?

And if its a bug is it a bug from cryptid or almanac

[ripe gulch]

math is planning to fix pointer

the reason why it doesn't work is because cards like Cryptid EX have formatting in their name

[worn flicker]

Oh ok

[sand socket]

yeah when I have some free time tonight I'll get to that as one of the first things

[ripe gulch]

so you'd actually need to type this to spawn cryptid EX: Cryptid {C:dark_edition}EX{}

[worn flicker]

Ayo thats crazy

[ripe gulch]

the dark_edition thingy is what gives the EX the cycling colour

it's strange i know but

[ripe gulch]

in an upcoming update, CCD deck, hammerspace and mischief will be nerfed to not include hidden cards like gateway or EX cards

it was never intended from the beginning for these cards to be easily attainable through other means, but there will be a joker that can assist with stacking the odds in your favour

[gloomy jay]

fair enough

[steel herald]

NOOOO

how do you even get EX cards-

[gloomy jay]

1/80 chance for them to replace most vanilla spectrals

[steel herald]

oh

[ripe gulch]

will be changed back to 1/100 in next update

because there's going to be even more EX cards

[gloomy jay]

👍

[crisp vault]

is there a way to target Jen's enhancements using the://CLASS code card? i.e. fizzy, powerchip, etc.

I'm not sure how they're named internally and looking in Jen.lua isn't really helping
or can it only "see" basegame enhancements + Echo?

[elfin thicket]

It doesn't have support for enhancements from other mods, no

[crisp vault]

ah gotcha. that does make sense

[obsidian mica]

[steel herald]

wait replace spectral cards or their regular cards

cuz planet EXs

[valid shadow]

do you mind if I localize Nopeus
I can't stand looking at these hardcoded prompts

[umbral solar]

if you have spice (or i assume any joker that adds negative consumables when non-negative ones are added) and any deck that forces edition it soft locks the game because it continues to add tarots forever

i assume it would eventually crash but that would take a very very long time as its added at a consistent rate of maybe 100 a second

[vagrant sierra]

grim ex + 4 copies of the monk fully summarizes the type of stuff you see in this mod

[vagrant sierra]

"extra large blind" lol

[ripe gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnqVqZyvLes

[solemn comet]

wow. over 4

[vagrant sierra]

ok

[zealous mist]

adding scientific notation for numbers <0.001 seems to be necessary now 😭

[ripe gulch]

Jen's Almanac

v0.0.4

Please update Cryptid as well!

Required Talisman version changed to 2.0.0-beta6
Fixed Red Seals were not retriggering cards
Fixed Azure Seals not destroying played cards
Wee playing cards now upgrade their own bonus chips by 3x their rank (flat 25 for rankless cards)
Some changes to descriptions
5 new tarot cards
(Latest Cryptid) Fixed consumable sources like Hammerspace or Mischief from granting "hidden" cards (like EX cards)
2 new jokers
Dithered chips penalty is now -25 (from -50)
Sharpened mult penalty is now -5 (from -25)
Made the EX card spawn noise louder (the intent being to jumpscare you a little)
Artificer rework; now gives an ability that destroys selected cards to give benefits

Downloads

Latest Cryptid | Almanac (contained in collection)

Quick bugfix

Fixed Wraith EX not being a hidden consumable

Please redownload or add hidden = true, to Wraith EX's code

[atomic vine]

when i choose a deck to start a game it crashes 😭

[atomic vine]

can anyone help?

[ripe gulch]

talisman is not set to omeganum

change it to omeganum then restart the game

[atomic vine]

tysm 🙏🙏

[elfin thicket]

is ther any way for almanac to just force omeganum on

since this is a worryingly common problem

[ripe gulch]

me and math have been talking about it but so far hands are empty

[worn flicker]

For hammerspace/mischief fix can you still get soul/gateway/pointer or are they also considered 'hidden'

[elfin thicket]

also hidden

[solemn mantle]

wait why is gourmand only legendary

25 triggers on 2 jokers is insane

[grizzled cape]

Counterpoint: Stow/Stash.

(Seriously, I bloody hate that Voucher line, and I think some other peeps hate it as well.)

[solemn mantle]

whaž

[grizzled cape]

Betmma's Vouchers, this particular Voucher set is rather controversial.

Both grant +1 Joker Slot, but Stow/Stash debuffs the leftmost/rightmost Joker slots. They're meant to be swapped around to make max usage, but it completely nullifies Brainstorm...and the CHONKER himself as well, IG.

[shut island]

gourmand can do crazy shit

[steel geyser]

Tried installing Almanac but im hitting this error upon trying to start a run after choosing a deck, not entirely sure if this is a Cryptid error or not though

not sure if anything went wrong with installation as i've went and redownloaded basically everything to see if there was an update i missed

its different now actually after making sure i was updated again

[naive fiber]

Try updating both Talisman and Cryptid

[steel geyser]

i'm pretty sure i did but i'll look again

[vestal flame]

my game crashed when i used that code card that gives u anything and creating crustulum

[steel geyser]

I've got 0.5.0 is there a later release im missing?

[naive fiber]

You're not supposed to be able to create exotics with that card

[naive fiber]

Last I checked pre2 was the last Cryptid version, also I think Talisman has a beta6

[stoic eagle]

This looks like a nesting issue

[vestal flame]

o fr?

[stoic eagle]

Jen's Almanac and Cryptid should not be considered "lovely mods"

[vestal flame]

just crashed the game for me lol

o now i cant open the run

that sucks

[steel geyser]

Huh, im pretty sure the nesting is fine

[rocky tree]

mods shouldnt be balanced around other mods

[steel geyser]

and the mod versions should be right, i am using the current releases on the git

[rocky tree]

i can get nerfs but not buffs

[steel geyser]

im wondering if windows defender messed with lovely

im honestly completely stumped with what could of gone wrong

although i disabled Jens and it still crashed so it must of been something i did during installing it that messed something else up

yeah i've got no clue here

[ripe gulch]

Bugfix

Fixed ||Jimbo|| causing a crash when acquired from the tarot

[naive fiber]

What's your Cryptid and Jen version? I'm not able to reproduce it

[rotund pine]

rename the mod files to remove the "- main" and it should work

[urban scarab]

idk how i did this but there's 2 code cards just chillin rn

i can move them around but not use or sell them

[ripe gulch]

it's usually the result of skipping a pack opening too quickly

[urban scarab]

ah

yeah it fixed itself after i opened the arcana pack

[ripe gulch]

just don't skip it too fast and you should be fine

[urban scarab]

yeah i think my mouse was over the skip button when i bought it and i just double clicked on accident

i was so confused why my sphinx wasn't working cuz i forgot all my cards are wee edition lol

[ripe gulch]

tiny lil cards

[naive fiber]

Cards so tiny the Sphinx can't see em

[ripe gulch]

i might make a weewee edition

i still need to figure out how to make wee properly resize cards that have additional sprites (seals, floating sprites (like legendaries or exotics), etc.)

[umbral solar]

this happens whenever i try to view some of the last 10 or so decks

its every deck between tossy and blank, not sure what those are

[ripe gulch]

this is an issue with betmma, report it at #1225831216939536394

[umbral solar]

wait which betma mod

cause i only have the voucher ui