#[1.0.1f] God Seed V2 (7IEI7YE)

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prime remnant
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Are you guys explicitly banning tarot looping from these records ?

proper kernel
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That no longer works in the new update

analog epoch
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It still does, you just need to have the last TWO tarots be fool and a tarot of your choice

prime remnant
mint cave
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But who will reroll thousands of times to get negative copiers💀

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Theoretically any score can be broken with this

analog epoch
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It’s also unfun

magic hull
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Awesome. Will def check it out!

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what did you get your score up to?

topaz escarp
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Ante 39, nane inf

normal tundra
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did you have an image of what the hand looked like before you pressed play? i wonder what the score looked like

tulip walrus
prime remnant
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Hm true

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Well ig just get infinite money for infinite rerolls

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I think the most realistic way is to tarot loop into infinite colas, for infinite negative rares, then get showman then get lots of copying jokers

magic hull
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anybody have a video or link to a chat describing tarot looping. never heard of it before.

normal tundra
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https://youtu.be/2RBIke_LOzk?si=MxlUO-imdEZV3STg

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Balatro University
*Infinite* Money, Jokers, and Planets in Balatro (1.0.1 Compatible)

Seed: T9ARC32P
https://ko-fi.com/drspectred
High Ante and High Score Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdNGt-ihEAcHn_YPgKEQbqTbW5q7CL8JP

By giving you Negative copies of Tarot Cards, Perkeo allows you to hold a copy of every Tarot Card at once. Learn how this interacts with the game's "duplication protection" feature. Learn how t...

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gray laurel
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@analog epoch
What's the point of this seed btw?

I see that a naturally Negative Brainstorm (?) is possible and other "copy Jokers" are maybe possible from Negative Tags.

I have two seeds which give naturally Negative Perkeo, one in Round 1.

analog epoch
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The end goal is going to be to reach the highest uncapped score (i.e. if the game could handle values above ~e308)

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we ran a search in 1.0.0 and players we're able to optimize that to around e2,800,000

gray laurel
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Yeah, I get the goal, not sure why p6 is so excited about this one tho

analog epoch
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probably because they helped find it

gray laurel
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ah

analog epoch
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it's only a small stepping stone though, I'm working on revamping Immolate to search through many more seeds with an even stronger list of criteria

gray laurel
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Permission to DM you?

analog epoch
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sure

normal tundra
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im interested because the nerd in me likes trying to optimize, working or seeing other players with more skill than me improve this seed to the maximum

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i loved seeing trousers and jeno and bhavya take the old seed to so many places it was amazing to see

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and also because i was the one who had to leave my pc on for hours on end to find the seed

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im excited because thats what interests me

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also this filter does a bit more than only perkeo, the filter asks for 1 of each eternal blueprint and brainstorm so ankh can be used on them and same with baron and mime and its all up to ante 8 i think

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also asks for a showman for dupes

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rebate for money

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and negative tags but that logic is going to be improved to only small blind to be able to force a negative

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and a copy card in a slot that can be negatived

normal tundra
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I would be interested in seeing you attempt this seed optimization challenge once we get a new and improved seed with the cpu searcher but idk if you'll be interested in that

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Based on this reaction doesn't seem like it

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Also I'm trying to understand where did you get me being "so excited", even from the start of the search when we were going through revisions to the filter I was never "so excited", cuz we didn't even know if the seeds would even work or not

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Like I don't understand what was the point of that line

analog epoch
analog epoch
mint cave
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Make a filter for earliest Naneinf as well. In the og seed, the Ante 6 was effortless because of the 2 blueprints in Ante 6 even with cryptid in Ante 4. With a good seed, Ante 4 is definately possible.

umbral raven
normal tundra
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The top is the old seed but I can find the message give me a second

umbral raven
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sorry i didn't even mean to ping you. for some reason your comment was selected

normal tundra
umbral raven
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thank you!

normal tundra
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The details that are about the seed aren't the same anymore but the strategy is the same pretty much

umbral raven
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thank you

prime remnant
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@normal tundra does the ante 11 soul give perkeo ?

normal tundra
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i dont know but there should be an earlier perkeo

prime remnant
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yeah ante 2

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but I don’t think it even matters

prime remnant
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nope it gives triboulet

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wait what is it not 3/1000 ??

normal tundra
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i was talking about natural negative copy cards

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aka blueprint/brainstorm

prime remnant
normal tundra
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0.3% chance for negative and 5% chance for rare

prime remnant
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and 10% chance for bp/bs

normal tundra
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isnt it 5%x2?

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i dont think thats the same as 10%

prime remnant
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there are 20 rares so it’s a 10% chance for each rare to be bp/bs

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so 3/(1000*20*10) = 3/200000

normal tundra
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i mean maybe i got the math wrong idek

prime remnant
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every 200 random jokers is a copying joker

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anyways did the current world record use skip tags at all

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?

magic hull
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I believe the 1.0.1b record did not use skip tags at all, but I could be wrong.

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not sure about the 1.0.1f one though

normal tundra
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There was no 1.0.1b version, the version was 1.0.0n

magic hull
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oops

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yeah, that

magic hull
# normal tundra https://youtu.be/2RBIke_LOzk?si=MxlUO-imdEZV3STg

Thanks for the link. Fascinating. One problem with using this to try to get a top score is that you need to find the right eternal cards and even if you were willing to click for hours to get all the jokers you want, wouldn't you get stuck with eternal cards you don't want?

normal tundra
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Theoretically yeah you could get stuck with eternals you don't want so it wouldn't be optimal for high scores if you use judgment

mint cave
prime remnant
prime remnant
wintry lynx
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magic hull
prime remnant
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Do you guys know whether you would need every other joker or just every other uncommon joker (with showman in the shop) for judgement to have the maximum chance of giving diet cola ?

tulip walrus
prime remnant
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I think so too but I'm not sure

analog epoch
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trenchninja is right

strong portal
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You guys still at this seed? Damn

normal tundra
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this thread is the same but a new seed has been found hence the v2

strong portal
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Ohh, I’ll have to investigate, if it’s better than the old one!!

normal tundra
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from what i saw it should be a little better

magic hull
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got to 1.176e38325. Made a couple errors that prevented me from getting further. May try to optimize it a bit more.

calm wasp
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is there a guide for this seed?

magic hull
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Curious if the search for the ultimate seed is still going or is there consensus that this has been maxed out?

normal tundra
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I plan to run it again once the c++ rewrite is fully done, there isn't really a way to come to a consensus on a maxed seed unless you've searched the whole seed pool

magic hull
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very cool. Looking forward to that update!

fading crane
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new run finished with talisman mod

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I calculated ~e4.11m

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normal tundra
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I mean nice run but what I think we really need is to push within the ante 39 limit

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But God damn still a fucking crazy run

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@analog epoch double check the score cuz I wanna know

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Also what level is the high card?

normal tundra
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So ante 55 is the point where it stops making sense to keep going?

normal tundra
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At what point do you use more Cryptids than you gain

fading crane
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Talisman broke when I had it higher

normal tundra
fading crane
normal tundra
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Ye I get that

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Hopefully v3 will push this further

fading crane
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The main issue is that boss rounds come every 8 antes, at which point a lot of cryptids have to be used

normal tundra
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Or v4 if you count the og God seed for drs 0.9.3

fading crane
normal tundra
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Ngl the og seed search was truly crazy, they ran through the whole pool in a day

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Now the game is much more complicated and a lot of seeds get filtered out

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Btw you have any screenshots before selling all the jokers?

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What was the setup like

hardy bluff
normal tundra
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Cartomancer is a nice mod I vouch

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But sometimes seeing your deck go to the moon is also funny

analog epoch
# fading crane I calculated ~e4.11m

287 jokers, 547 cards held in hand. I’m getting e4.05M (the hand levels would only add like e6 to this, max, they really don’t matter)

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@normal tundra @fading crane

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e4050336 if you have one more Baron actually instead of Mime

normal tundra
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So e4.05m

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Still

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Going above e4m

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Crazy

analog epoch
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I wonder, does Talisman crash when trying to play the final hand here?

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Or would it fully calculate

normal tundra
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I doubt it would play

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That's so many calculations

analog epoch
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I think you could probably see like an e1M in-game, max

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With Baron/mime

normal tundra
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Idk how many calculations the game can handle before shitting itself so I'll go with that

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Maybe if we get more memory we could

analog epoch
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There’s also probably a way to optimize it more, I still don’t really know why it crashes for very large calculations

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Considering it isn’t doing any animations at all, just the math

normal tundra
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This is about to be like jelly mods but for Balatro (the guy that made sodium for minecraft)

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But honestly minecraft base performance is probably worse ngl

analog epoch
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I thought you were talking about jellymod for a second egg

normal tundra
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Both are named jelly

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Well he is named jellysquid but still

hardy bluff
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tbf not entirely sure if it's the memory, never tested, but I'd assume this is the biggest bottleneck

normal tundra
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cmon modders we need you to break the memory limit

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If that's even possible

analog epoch
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Still that would make sense

hardy bluff
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I know someone tried updating luajit to 2.1 (which from my searching allows for higher limit?), but the game performed much worse

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I know thunk also tried updating luajit in 1.0.1 and game performed worse

heady hinge
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Wait what e4.05 million how?

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Whats the strat?

hardy bluff
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eternal mime Baron blueprint for ankh ecto strategy, and cryptids for hand size

heady hinge
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Thx,is there a sorta guide on how to get every joker and what arcana and spectral packs to open?

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Whats the highest ante the run could hypotheticaly reach?

analog epoch
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infiinity

heady hinge
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Wdym there has to some point where you need more cryptids than you make

analog epoch
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oh wait I'm thinking of a different seed

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probably like 60-70

heady hinge
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What different seed?

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60-70 sounds right

heady hinge
analog epoch
heady hinge
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Wait is that the infamous negative perkeo negative trib seed?

heady hinge
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Can someone send a full some sort of guide on how to get the needed jokers an spectral cards?

heady hinge
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Anyone?

primal badge
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What do you want a guide for
For the run that beats this score?

heady hinge
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No just what do to get the setup ecto, ankh eternal baron and mime basically just a stpe by step guide

primal badge
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Ok there I cannot help
You know the goal
The way there is for you to figure out

The soul can help you a lot
For the spectral cards, either séance or sixth sense will be used

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But I don’t know why you would want a guide for this seed
It is beyond naninf

heady hinge
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Just wanna get to understand the game better

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And get my first nan

primal badge
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Then this is the wrong place

heady hinge
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Thx

primal badge
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For better understanding, you have a few options
-Watching content of good players e.g. drspectred
-Playing and discovering stuff
-read this for seeded endless (although the strats here are really advanced)

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