Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[clear hare]

and I think it might be a steamodded bug?

i remember someone said something like that but might not've been this bug

[brave ibex]

good to know

[snow rivet]

Should Europa be used to refer to the dwarf planet or the moon of Jupiter?

[wary pasture]

How is this for Trade? there's also one without the outline around the hand

[snow rivet]

Or would it be funnier if the card represented/showed both?

[snow rivet]

I like it.

[summer cargo]

I like the one without the outline on the hand more

[wary pasture]

files, gn

[rough violet]

make it a mega for the funny

gamblers tag if it was good:

[raven wedge]

❌❌❌

[green cove]

Yeah, antimatter is too broken
CCD next could be fun time

I mean doe is also pretty fun to do next

What I don't understand is why effarcire doesn't work in packs, seems kinda weird

[green cove]

Also iirc Antimatter deck does not have CCD effect, not sure if that's intentional

[lime inlet]

Antimatter is the "fuck around and do whatever" deck

You either wanna test out insane combos or break the game

or both

[green cove]

Can already do that with doe

[lime inlet]

Doe misprint is already a busted combo

[green cove]

Antimatter is supposed to be all decks so not having ccd there is sad

[karmic bough]

Overpowered tag

[lime inlet]

I love how there is only one deck that can reach Infinity round 1 and it's not the deck that is the culmination of (almost) every deck in the game, not to mention all downsides are erased

[summer cargo]

You aren't in a round when you're in a pack

it specifically states "at start of round"

[oblique urchin]

ya'll think this is about the right perkeo to canvas ratio?

(game rightfully gave up after I tried to end turn next shop, I can't fathom how many cards that exotic was about to try to generate)

I think thats enough consumables day for today XD

[summer cargo]

☑️ jonklers

[green cove]

Sure, but I mean from balance standpoint, it's already kinda meh exotic

[summer cargo]

I honestly think it's mostly for performance reasons

you open a lot of booster packs in cryptid and drawing/ discarding 400+ cards every single time does not play nicely with your framerate

[green cove]

But that can probably be optimized?

Idk by how much, but surely there should be some room for speed increase

Also Idk how realistic/frequent 400+ cards deck is tbh, in most of my cryptid runs I ended up with a rather thin deck

[summer cargo]

DNA + canvas + labyrinth goes hard

[oblique urchin]

Maybe it could be during round instead, or even set hand size at the start of round and then reduce it back down after

[summer cargo]

The way it used to work was that it just passively set your hand size to your deck size

I'm frankly not entirely certain why it was changed?

[gray elm]

the clock does not work as a replacement of big blinds

[green cove]

nice

cannot skip pack if I used immolate to yeet all cards in hand

could be fractional value moment

[gray elm]

nah thats from base game

GG, checkered on emerald stake with crazy luck

the jonklers

[green cove]

oh right, I forgot that thunk patch was only for hand size

[oblique urchin]

👀

[green cove]

double holo tooltip is kinda funny

[gray elm]

wait is it like that in vanilla

can someone send negative perkeos desc?

[clear hare]

Read the description

[green cove]

perkeo has different negative, for consumables

[remote locust]

Negative supernatural bonus blind:

[oak herald]

legally speaking perkeo is now from incantation

[clear hare]

They don’t know about hiding mod badge

Actually to be fair I also forgot to do that when the feature got added

[green cove]

btw #1219749193204371456 message

[oak herald]

ive been reminded how busted wee joker used to be
+20 chips per scored 2, and it was uncommon?

[clear hare]

fair

[green cove]

btw

I saw the crash msg when using P_CENTERS

should be easy fix

should be

and we can probably make it for jokers as well

[weak burrow]

yo im updating my mods i wanna add some mods, is there any good 1.0 mods that are semi broken i guess?

cryptid-like mods

[clear hare]

Betmma

[weak burrow]

im guessing all the other mods are more balanced?

[karmic bough]

It's adding new function called ability which is highly wip

[clear hare]

Cruel Blinds as well is good

[karmic bough]

May cause some issues

[weak burrow]

dim

does your modpack have the qol mods?

like nopeus and the other one?

i forgot the name

cartomancer

[karmic bough]

Have a couple, you can read the list

Both Nopeus and Cartomancer are in

[weak burrow]

oh the spreadsheet is nice

[green cove]

spoke too soon

so basically the idea is we need to create specific_vars table for a prototype if we want to display it as tooltip

[weak burrow]

btw math

i remember from the stream you need a certain version of steamodded, is latest fine or do i need whatever you have in the cryptid download?

for cryptid

@clear hare

[green cove]

but prototype is initialized before you enter a round so something like this wouldnt work, and if you make it a function it wont work either
so you either hardcode it to 1, or try to find a smarter solution

[weak burrow]

oh i see debugplus isnt in the modpack

sadge

and incantation also isnt

i was about to just remove mods and start from scratch

[raven wedge]

because incan isn't qol

[weak burrow]

i mean its still a nice mod to have if you dont really care about normal rules

i know the slots things is debatable but tbh to me its not really a problem

[karmic bough]

@weak burrow if you want to talk about modpack it might be a good idea to talk about them in my channel

Not here

[weak burrow]

next time i will

[green cove]

hm actually magician with lucky cards somehow dynamically updates tooltip with o!a6, and it uses P_CENTERS for tooltip 🤔

[silver cobalt]

I had to go from the stream

Did Murphy ever find canvas?

[green cove]

found it

[weak burrow]

yeah he did

[silver cobalt]

Gg

[weak burrow]

got canvas and a 1 in 1 googol play card

and 12 other jokers (1 blueprint) so the score went brr

[oak herald]

e4.5k

i think i might have set an exponentia wr

[soft night]

late but y e s

[oak herald]

is this a world record exponentia

[soft night]

no

not even close

[oak herald]

we can go further

^124b mult? rookie numbers

also someone really needs to format that 😭

[karmic bough]

e

[weak burrow]

i mean tbh the record for cryptid cards just depends on how far you want to go

[green cove]

okay it ended up being completely unrelated, and ye it works now #💻・modding-dev message

[subtle nova]

Honestly add black hole

[granite ibex]

add all modded soul-type cards

e.g. philosophers stone if CA is installed

[soft night]

i need 2 more Code cards

for a nice even 32

[clear hare]

It’s fine, Murphy had to update because he downloaded 0.4.0 and only updated Cryptid files
0.4.1 release has the right version

[clear hare]

good idea

[soft night]

oh god youre gonna get POINTER:// from that

[clear hare]

Could probably do this procedurally but the issue is some things might use same spawning mechanics (like maybe DX tarots?)

[subtle nova]

Idk what code cards you have but off by one error

[soft night]

i wanted to include that but idk how i would

[raven wedge]

include cards with <1% spawn rate?

[clear hare]

Next X booster packs have +1 pack choice and +1 pack options

[clear hare]

DX tarots look like it uses something different so it should work?

Will definitely test it though when I make this change

[subtle nova]

Idk modifies all card values by one

[soft night]

pointer done

_ is the symbol of code cards as a whole so

i figured

[soft night]

://O_B_O_E
Next Booster Pack gives an additional offer and selection.

oh wait duh

://SPAGHETTI
Create a Food Joker.

that's 32

sorry to these guys

i think we have a good roster of code cards :)

[subtle nova]

Crash hss to crash with a funny random error value

[soft night]

42069

This one can appear in Meme Packs

O_B_O_E

[subtle nova]

Off by one just uses the sprite of the code card beside it in the sprite sheet

[soft night]

LMAO

no i made it an oboe

[subtle nova]

Just keep it in the sprite sheet

[soft night]

....

it's off by one pixel-

[subtle nova]

I'll take it

But maybe wrap the other side

Possible other effect increase the random probability variable by one

Or if you want it to be busted increase the size of all the main cardarea's by one

(Jokers, consumables, hand)

[granite ibex]

Quick Sort
Create a Code Card when blind is skipped

[soft night]

thats interesting

YOU ARE AN IDIOT

[jagged garden]

This is one Cryptid run of all time

[soft night]

jesus

[jagged garden]

that's gg

[dusty python]

rip your pc

[jagged garden]

I have anims off

[dusty python]

right i forgor you can do that 💀

[silver cobalt]

Should the astral chance be higher?

I dont think murphy saw a single astral joker for the entire time i was watching

[dusty python]

I haven't even seen any astral cards so far

in my playthroughs as well

[silver cobalt]

Its really weird

I made the weight 0.3

What does that translate to percentage wise?

[brave ibex]

Current rate is fine i think

Better to be more rare than more common

[dusty python]

is there a tarot/spectral that changes the cards into that?

[silver cobalt]

No

[brave ibex]

No

[silver cobalt]

Could be funny tho

[dusty python]

so only in standard packs

[brave ibex]

Have to find them naturally

[brave ibex]

Or illusion

[silver cobalt]

Make it a code card

[dusty python]

ahh that makes sense

[silver cobalt]

Imagine a code card that flipped all edition rarities

So astral would appear at the same rate as foil

[dusty python]

oh shit we're cooking in this one

[soft night]

all code cards are already decided sadly

[silver cobalt]

Sadness

Make it a joker then

[spare cape]

these go crazy

cannot wait

[soft night]

can probably do

[granite ibex]

Rusty Joker
Create a Code Card when you play a Steel Card

[silver cobalt]

Chirality - Epic
Inverts the rarity of editions (Ex: Astral becomes as common as Foil, Foil becomes as rare as Astral)

[soft night]

interesting

[silver cobalt]

The joker art is just a piece of corkscrew pasta

[dusty python]

waiting for spaghetti code card

[dusty python]

nvm i cant read

[livid temple]

wait

what are code cards

im out of the loop with the development

[gray elm]

glitch: card spawning specifically rare joker could spawn epic joker instead

[soft night]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNaIouU3vrtWIuPBdFCqLyjYAjVtq7t64xjHnckEY50/edit

[soft night]

new consumable type coming in 0.5

[silver cobalt]

Programming Socks - Rare - If hand contains only kings, convert them to queens and create a code card.

[soft night]

THAT IS GOOD

[dusty python]

nahh thigh highs in balatro before gta 6 is CRAZY

[silver cobalt]

Lol

[dusty python]

honestly based

[soft night]

making the art for that one while wearing thigh highs-

[silver cobalt]

Seriously????

[soft night]

if i had them :(

[silver cobalt]

Lol

[dusty python]

relatable

[silver cobalt]

The best i have is mid-calf

[dusty python]

the best i have are normal socks lol

[soft night]

pretty sure if i P-rank P-2 in ULTRAKILL a pair will manifest in my room

source: i made it teh fuck up

[spare cape]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-estrogen-gif-12757421495138386956

[wary pasture]

I made something for analog, how's it look?

[dusty python]

kinda hard to decipher what it's supposed to be

is it like those trumpet things on a wooden block?

[wary pasture]

it's supposed to be a kind of computer

[dusty python]

i thought of these things

[soft night]

i like it

[wary pasture]

that also is an analog object (a mechanism or device in which information is represented by continuously variable physical quantities) turns dips in the vinyl into sound, so that interpretation works as well.

[dusty python]

i guess so

but i like it as well

WAIT

SINCE WHEN DO NEGATIVE PLAYING CARDS WORK

[granite ibex]

unfortunately did not happen when i did it

might have to be on brutal

[soft night]

I'm going to cry.

And I cry acid.

[dusty python]

das crazy

[granite ibex]

this would probably be uncommon

[wary pasture]

file

[livid temple]

does anyone know what inspired the M jokers

and why they link with jolly jokers

[brave ibex]

Yeah we know

[dusty python]

a guy kept spamming m

and upon asking what his least favorite joker was he said jolly joker

[brave ibex]

m

[dusty python]

m

[wary pasture]

m

[silver cobalt]

m

[brave ibex]

This question must be asked and answered once a day, it’s the rules

[subtle nova]

m

[silver cobalt]

m

[upper pendant]

judging from how active this chat is today i feel like imma pull 100+ commits to local tmr morning

[wary pasture]

em

[subtle nova]

Nah we're too busy chstting to be writing codr

[dusty python]

JESUS

thus, chaos commenced

[upper pendant]

wait till you see es on them

[oak herald]

aaaaaa

[dusty python]

white hole went crazy

[livid temple]

you suck at this

i got infinity in like 2 seconds with universum and white hole

[dusty python]

dude

it's ante 2

oh

same shop

[livid temple]

im joking

i dont actually think your ass at the game

[dusty python]

no offense taken

[green cove]

Potentially yeah, I only saw it once or twice on like antimatter deck after tons of rerolls (and it was on a death card or smth)

[dusty python]

I'm not a twitter user

[clear hare]

Missed a bunch of messages but I think Bogosort should be added

Because it’s funny

[livid temple]

wtf is that

[clear hare]

Code card that shuffles and pins all jokers, but gives one polychrome

[livid temple]

lmao

[soft night]

i'd rather not; it stomps on hex's niche a bit and it feels unfair

[livid temple]

anyway gonna go for another cryptid run see yall

[soft night]

i dont see myself using bogosort in any situation

[clear hare]

true

[soft night]

but yeah how's the roster rn

[clear hare]

I should really put it in one of the pins

[clear hare]

looks good

[soft night]

how soon can we get them working 👁️

[clear hare]

Implementation-wise some might be harder

[clear hare]

going to probably add all the other bolder things first

[livid temple]

thats prob the funniest reason to add something i ever heard

anyway fuck that guy

jolly joker is epic

[soft night]

function's gonna be a bitch

[clear hare]

hardest part will be figuring out when to allow it to trigger imo

With things like selecting X cards

[spare cape]

https://tenor.com/view/jiggy-jolly-get-jiggy-get-jolly-get-jolly-with-it-gif-13651478034157223092

[clear hare]

://SEED requires overriding every probabilistic joker (probably)

HOOK:// probably requires reworking calculation API (which really should be done at some point anyway)

Also how does ://ASSEMBLE work?

://MACHINECODE also sounds annoying to code

[green cove]

I think it's kinda impossible? Unless it only tracks instant consumables that can be used any time or adds them to your consumable slots

Because how would u redo death

[clear hare]

Sorting Algorithm should sort the cards before scoring

[clear hare]

Maybe it should create the consumables instead, in that order

Or like negative versions

[green cove]

Yes that's what I suggested in 2nd part

Negative makes sense as well

[silver cobalt]

Seed could just be making g.game.probability 99999

[clear hare]

Oh that’s smart

[green cove]

But for that specific joker

[silver cobalt]

Oh

[clear hare]

Apply it and undo it when calculating the joker

Just wrap calculate() with a check for that

[green cove]

Mhmhmh

[clear hare]

As well as the UI code

[green cove]

I guess that could somehow work

[silver cobalt]

You could totally define a local g.game.probability

[clear hare]

Save it to a temp variable and set it to inf when doing things with that joker, then set it back

[clear hare]

Description is still vague with this one
I assume it applies XMult to the end of the next hand after use?

[green cove]

Sounds like it

[soft night]

show a Death at the center of the screen, can't do anything until you use it

[soft night]

it just gives the xmult right then and there

[clear hare]

oh

[silver cobalt]

Hook could just look for a return from calculate and if so trigger the other joker with the same context

[clear hare]

Yeah this could work visually

[clear hare]

Yeah but the issue is callbacks

[livid temple]

whats the point of the very fair deck

[green cove]

What if you're in shop or in blind selection

[clear hare]

When I merge the API with Steamodded I will probably make the callback logic better

[clear hare]

to be hard

[livid temple]

like who would ever use the very fair deck

oh ok

[silver cobalt]

The use 3 consumables one could have issues with keep on use consumables

[soft night]

just dont allow it to be used

[clear hare]

Hooking the destroy function would probably be better then

[soft night]

altho

hm

ok how about this, it only plays the consumables that are valid for the situation

[clear hare]

Ngl I think creating negative consumables in sequence with an extra tooltip (and shader?) works

Same creative freedom but using the same existing UI components

[soft night]

it could be that it spawns them one after the other after one is used

[livid temple]

math

can you post bugs here if you find them

[clear hare]

Yep

Here and/or the GitHub issue pages are good

Yesterday I went and fixed all (hopefully) of the bugs from the Murphy stream

[deep kite]

Oh yeah what is DoE btw? Curious on what that is

Deck of Everything?

I think?

[green cove]

Deck of equilibrium

[clear hare]

Every card has the same chance of appearing

[livid temple]

i found a bug where if blueprint is copying doodle M, it creates 4 negative consumables even with no jolly jokers.

[clear hare]

Minimum of 2

This is intended

[livid temple]

but i dont have 2 jolly jokers

[clear hare]

2 consumables

[brave ibex]

that's what the minimum is for

[livid temple]

but isnt it only supposed to make the consumables if i have jolly jokers

its an m joker

[clear hare]

The point is for it be good without M Strats but also have M synergy

[green cove]

It says it will always spawn at least 2

[brave ibex]

it initially was but i made it create some without it cause it was garbage otherwise

[livid temple]

ohhh im so sorry

[silver cobalt]

You guys really need to sort through the recent suggestion box

[green cove]

Scales with jolly

[silver cobalt]

That thing is overflowing

[green cove]

I mean wording is kinda weird

[livid temple]

i just thought it was like that

because of how its worded

[green cove]

I can see where the confusion is coming from

[clear hare]

I could stick a consumables to fix that issue

[silver cobalt]

What if create 2 consumables, create an additional one for every jolly joker you have

[brave ibex]

no

wait nvm

[livid temple]

yeah that would be much more understandable imo

[brave ibex]

ig i could change it

[livid temple]

yeah i think its a way more clear desc

[soft night]

guys, consider

Flush Rock
500 Chips, 1 Mult

Planet: Asteroid Belt, +50 Chips, +1 Mult

[clear hare]

More clear and a slight buff

[green cove]

I don't think it's a big improvement tbh, maybe
Create 2 negative consumables when blind is selected
Create an extra for each jolly joker owned

[clear hare]

Yeah this works much better

[brave ibex]

what is flush rock

[soft night]

5 stones

please add it, a friend and i were memeing about it for so long

[livid temple]

maybe Stone Five would fit better

its not really a flush

its more of a five

[soft night]

no. rock

[livid temple]

Rock Five

[soft night]

Rock Five

[livid temple]

but its not a flush

its a five of a kind

[clear hare]

btw for the 6+7 card hands I don’t think it’s a good idea to have them unless there’s a voucher or something that lets you select more cards

[soft night]

ROCK FIVE

[green cove]

Stone Henge

[soft night]

ROCK FIVE

[brave ibex]

yeah I think just remove those entirely

[soft night]

add it

[clear hare]

On a similar vein, another idea from the suggestions box:
Flush Spectrum (you’d need all wild cards)

[brave ibex]

flush spectrum is an oxymoron

[clear hare]

Because they’re all hidden it honestly doesn’t even bloat the pool much

[brave ibex]

lol

[clear hare]

So it could work

[deep kite]

Are spectrums in Cryptid yet?

[clear hare]

No

[livid temple]

what are spectrums again

i heard theyre in like other bala mods

[clear hare]

ngl at this point we need a standard for that, because a bunch of mods are gonna add it

[brave ibex]

they only effectively work on two decks though + there are so many different hand types introduced it feels weird to have all those planets

like for a hand you might only play once

[soft night]

Rock Five is better because it works on any deck

[silver cobalt]

5 different suits

[clear hare]

Yeah, although it might be funny in discovery

[livid temple]

i mean if stone fives exist

that kinda opens the floodgates

Lucky Five, Golden Five, Flush Gold

kind of a bit broad

[soft night]

no

only rock five

because stones are their own thing

[silver cobalt]

Stones are the only one without an existing rank or suit

That are simply rock

[soft night]

rock

[silver cobalt]

m

mock

rocm

[soft night]

ok fuck it, the planet card for Rock Five is The Rock

[clear hare]

Could generalize to only suitless, rankless cards for mod compat

[soft night]

[silver cobalt]

Ye

[soft night]

yes

[clear hare]

like Ortalab probably has one

[brave ibex]

the name rock five wouldn't make sense in that case

[livid temple]

Null Five maybe if its broader

[soft night]

no. rock

[livid temple]

Blank Five

[soft night]

Five

[clear hare]

Rock Five still works

If modders are sane most of these will be rock-based

[soft night]

ROCK FIVE 🔥

[livid temple]

modders are not sane considering this mod exists

[soft night]

[summer cargo]

it's just Five

[green cove]

Hot take: The only insane thing about this mod is m

[soft night]

all on board?

[clear hare]

Yeah Ortalab equivalent is ore card so still rock

[livid temple]

nahhh

[clear hare]

Asteroid Belt is better

[livid temple]

im thinking Meteor or something

asteroid belt is also good

[clear hare]

Hailey’s Comet?

[soft night]

we need to add The Rock somehow

[livid temple]

sounds cool ig

[soft night]

ye

[clear hare]

The Rock (Rare): All cards become stone cards after played

[livid temple]

oh that'd be sick

wait

thats not worth rare i dont thin

more of an uncommon

[soft night]

IT'S ABOUT DRIVE
IT'S ABOUT TOWER

[clear hare]

Maybe uncommon

[livid temple]

yeah like midas mask

[soft night]

make it for numbered cards

or Medusa for face cards

[livid temple]

oh yeah the opposite of midas

all numbered cards are converted to stone cards after played

[clear hare]

Yeah that works

[soft night]

swag

The Rock it is

it's jimbo doing

[silver cobalt]

That still feels a little much

[livid temple]

what how

[soft night]

rock

[livid temple]

stone cards arent THAT good

[silver cobalt]

What about 2s 3s 4s and 5s

[soft night]

ROCK.

[livid temple]

that'd be way too nerfed

[silver cobalt]

Ok ig

[livid temple]

stone cards arent like +250 chips

[silver cobalt]

Numbered it is

[livid temple]

theyre a basic 50

oh god what is thsi joker i just bought

why do i have obelisks

[wary pasture]

cryptid isn't exactly a "balanced" mod

[brave ibex]

boss blind

[livid temple]

all played stone cards are destroyed

[brave ibex]

it has "The" already which makes our life so much easier

[livid temple]

also what is sob

it gave me obelisks

[brave ibex]

yes

its curse

[livid temple]

it doesnt even have a description

[brave ibex]

:p

[livid temple]

it just gave me 3 of them and a curse

what is the curse

[brave ibex]

the obelisks is the curse

[livid temple]

what if i sell them

[mystic raft]

At least 1 is eternal I think

[brave ibex]

you can't escape

[green cove]

Lock:

[clear hare]

Remember when murph almost bought sob

[brave ibex]

they will come back

[clear hare]

We’ll see it next stream

[livid temple]

is he doing another deck next time

[green cove]

Actually funny thing, I used lock and it made obelisk eternal

[livid temple]

ngl i didnt like how he only did misprint since it doesnt really provide a good picture of the jokers effects

[silver cobalt]

Can you sell sob?

[clear hare]

ye

he said he wants to do many more decks

[silver cobalt]

Doe i think

[livid temple]

also i dont mean to be rude to him

[brave ibex]

tbh if i could i would have made a sticker called "True Eternal" that is immune to lock

[livid temple]

i just think misprint is an innacurate rep of the mod for 1st time players

oh hey a soul in ante 1

perkeo

i love DoE

[green cove]

What would be better tho

[silver cobalt]

Its suprisingly hard to beat

[subtle nova]

Stupid code card idea: recursion
On use, spawns a recursion

[silver cobalt]

You crash before you get to ante 8

[clear hare]

Consume-able synergy!

[livid temple]

anything else ngl

except antimatter

misprint is just bad for 1st time in my opinion

[clear hare]

Everyone joking abt Cryptid instability but there was no crashing in the last run of the stream

After he updated Steamodded

[leaden prawn]

hidden feature where if you use it too many times it just crashes your game

[green cove]

Doe is pretty bad to do first imo

[livid temple]

i have never gotten a crash on cryptid

i guess im just lucky

[green cove]

Misprint is junky and funny

[livid temple]

the problem is that you dont really actually see what the jokers are supposed to do

cuz its all just random values

[silver cobalt]

When are you guys gonna put these on the main sheet

[subtle nova]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Errors/Too_much_recursion energy

[clear hare]

I’m working more on the code so maybe someone else can get to it

[soft night]

code card deck, what do we think

o

Program Deck: Start run with the Command Prompt Voucher and a ://FUNCTION card.

[clear hare]

Nvm that was my slow internet

Image works

Cool idea

[soft night]

yippee

[green cove]

Partially agreed, but jokers aren't all about their numbers, they're about effects, and deck introduces you to majority of the content this way, so if you go to ccd deck you already know what it does, if you see exotic jokers on doe you know they're very rare usually etc.

[brave ibex]

i could do it if you tell me what you are talking about xd

[green cove]

It's kinda hard to pinpoint a good introduction deck for cryptid imo

[livid temple]

doe is good for finding new jokers

[subtle nova]

Red deck

[silver cobalt]

Code stuff

[brave ibex]

is there a place where i can easily find them

i'll do it right now

[soft night]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LNaIouU3vrtWIuPBdFCqLyjYAjVtq7t64xjHnckEY50/edit

[subtle nova]

With the sheer number of programers in the modding channels, I'm surprised it took this long to get programming related things

[soft night]

I first made the idea and I'm not even a programmer

LOL

[green cove]

Sure, but it skews your opinion on the mod. You might think exotics are super common and expect every deck to be this level of bonkers

[brave ibex]

i like the suit decks

[soft night]

Enhancement decks are nice

[brave ibex]

the consisentcy of straight flush and flush house is a really simple but great example of cryptid power

and the scoring gives some leeway for new discoveries

[subtle nova]

I mean play on a vanilla deck and then you experience the new cryptid stuff without too much insanity

[cold sandal]

Redeemed Deck

2x

[soft night]

oooh i like

[brave ibex]

i like a little insanity in my runs

i think it's a good starting place imo

[cold sandal]

Also got this crash earlier

[livid temple]

also what does ERROR do

[brave ibex]

copy all jokers when sold

[cold sandal]

||Duplicates all Jokers when sold after a random number of rounds||

[brave ibex]

ater a random amount of rounds

[wary pasture]

are there going to be decks for these?

[subtle nova]

Bloody card. Is just an Australian card

[livid temple]

is there a way to find out

when its active

[cold sandal]

Eclipsed Deck, Deck of Life, Lakes Deck, Altar Deck

[green cove]

Azure deck

Accidental glass deck challenge

[brave ibex]

it doesn't display ??? at end of round (must have animation skip off)

[leaden prawn]

amazing

[brave ibex]

geometry dash reference

[leaden prawn]

hammerspace moment

[cold sandal]

two souls

One of them better spawn ||waluigi||

[leaden prawn]

i gota chicot on the first one

i got him

full skip time

[soft night]

Program Deck

ofc i had to put the >_ in

[spare cape]

we makin it to endless with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[subtle nova]

Oh yeah that reminds me I need to add the > to DebugPlus's commanf prompt

[subtle nova]

Inb4 -0.4 hands remaining

[soft night]

do we like

[cold sandal]

Ye looks good

[leaden prawn]

how does this happen every time i play cryptid

[soft night]

also, updated the POINTER:// spectral

[subtle nova]

Can we just increase the frame time and have 2 sprites?

[soft night]

maybe

yup

[subtle nova]

I mean for the game itself

I know you can change gif frame times

[brave ibex]

ok i goota go, most of the code cards have been added though

someone else can do the rest

[silver cobalt]

I feel like there are too many jokers concepted that make code cards

Like waaaaaay too many

They should do more unique things with them

[soft night]

thats why i said Possible Jokers, not Confirmed Jokers

idk why Python wasn't included in this list tbh

also, can we call these Global cards

[silver cobalt]

Perfect

[soft night]

Coder For Hire (Uncommon): Code cards are worth twice as much money when sold.

[silver cobalt]

Oooh what if global was a seal

Globe seal

[soft night]

no

[silver cobalt]

It feels not that useful if it overrides the enhancment

[soft night]

...huh, actually, why did it become one

i listed it as not being an enhancement

[silver cobalt]

Only other thing could be like something similar to lobotomy corp’s blessed

Idk how that thing works tho

[soft night]

it was to be a property

[brave ibex]

Easier to do as an enchantment

[soft night]

not an enhancement/seal

[brave ibex]

Mostly

[soft night]

but that ruins the point

:v

this was meant to get a guaranteed draw of like a purple seal or a steel card

[brave ibex]

Fine :(

Im not sure if it would be possible to do this way though

[silver cobalt]

It could be like a sticker almost

Just not in the sticker pool

And beneficial

[brave ibex]

Can’t change it back until i get back in ~4 hours

[soft night]

i was about to say a sticker would be a good idea

[silver cobalt]

The sticker should be like top middle

[soft night]

yea

also, made coder for hire not super fucking broken

[deep kite]

is cube suppoed to be -25 jollars

[cold sandal]

Yes

[brave ibex]

Yes

[cold sandal]

Best joker

Buy it

[deep kite]

idk chief

[cold sandal]

Buy it and gain $25

[deep kite]

I feel like it's gonna do soemthing bad

[cold sandal]

Its overpowered

[deep kite]

It's eternal

Okay that isn't terrible

[brave ibex]

It unlocks big cube

[cold sandal]

||Jevonn stop spoiling things||

[brave ibex]

It says it in the concepting sheet bruh

[soft night]

Java Coffee (Uncommon): Create a Code card when Blind is skipped. Destroys itself after playing 3 rounds. (Drank!)

[cold sandal]

yes but are you looking at the concepting sheet while playing?

[brave ibex]

Uh

[deep kite]

no

not me

[brave ibex]

Sometimes

Also doe bypasses the joker gate so i feel like everyone has seen it

At some point

[soft night]

hows this for jokers

this feels like a solid amount

[green cove]

For the function, negative consumables should probably be eternal so you can't sell them

[soft night]

thats a good idea

[deep kite]

nah not me (Stuck on Red deck orange stake)

[brave ibex]

Unfortunate

[deep kite]

I'm trying to go in deck order rn

to get to at least gold

[wary pasture]

How does this look for greed?

[raven wedge]

too normal?

[soft night]

sometimes normal is good

this is one of those times

i like it :)

[wary pasture]

i also made this version

[soft night]

i like that too

[hollow berry]

1/3 chance for a joker to be rental huh

[soft night]

source

[silver cobalt]

I feel like the orange and blue squiggles could use something to look a bit more ethereal

The background also looks very plain

[soft night]

i made this in a rush

cuz i had to go soon

if someone wants to tackle it i'm more than happy to let them

else i'll fix it up once i return home

[green cove]

btw @clear hare do you know why this happens by chance

I feel like it's so random

or wait

I see why it happens

this causes it

maybe we should just remove it later

I'll let you decide

made a new PR

this time it works for sure ! !

this is the crash fix in steamodded
https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/176/files

[echo jacinth]

the guys over at ortalab are trying to start o. we need to get more m's in before they start doing o

[scenic pumice]

no, we aren't (message below is a screenie of a message from ortalab)

[echo jacinth]

m

M: all of the M jokers may appear in any booster pack.
M: x1 mult per currently owned M joker

[wary pasture]

How does this look for concentration? I couldn't fit the word, so I just put concentrate.

[jagged garden]

Your Spectral card arts looks so cool

[wary pasture]

Ty

[echo jacinth]

W - destroy all jokers with M in the name

[cold sandal]

This was an old W (and w) idea that acts similar to other concepted letter jokers

If we were to add more letter jokers these are what would probably be used

[teal plover]

san galgano, is that you?

[weak burrow]

Btw Ive been thinking about something

Now with echo edition

What's the highest scoring card, is echo better than glass?

Echo is 2 times at base right?

[livid temple]

why does you game look unpixeled

[weak burrow]

Custom fonts

[livid temple]

how do i do that

i want comic sans

[oblique urchin]

Was it working for you? I had a similar card show up but could never get it to work

[wary pasture]

files, forgot to post them

[teal plover]

i was never able to play it, it didn't show up in my hand throughout the whole run unfortunately lol

[oblique urchin]

aw rip

[teal plover]

but a similar card i had before did work correctly

[oblique urchin]

strange, probably just some weird issue, I'll try to troubleshoot if it shows up again

[glass tundra]

Is there any reason why this joker would be giving me xMult?

I'm fairly certain Double Scale is trying to "upgrade" it in interesting ways, and it's currently giving me around x8 Mult on every hand I play

[clear hare]

It must have detected Xmult as the value to update

For some reason the way jokers are structured every one has an Xmult of 1 by default

[glass tundra]

Huh, okay. Its only values are config = {extra = {discards = 0, carryOver = false}}, so that's interesting that it chose that to scale with

[brave ibex]

that joker doesn't look like it should scale in the first place

idk why double scale would detect it

[subtle nova]

Cause if it was 0 by default then you would have 0xmult and then mult

Its the most reasonable default vslue

[clear hare]

yeah just weird that double scale detects it, and with Xmult too

[glass tundra]

I just used Sapling to create a random Epic joker, and it gave me m despite having m jokers turned off in the settings. Is that intended?

[brave ibex]

yes

[glass tundra]

:(

[brave ibex]

just embrace it

[mental tiger]

for some reason azure seal crashes the game for me

[brave ibex]

update all mods and steamodded

[mental tiger]

they're all updated

[brave ibex]

start a new run then

current one won't work

[clear hare]

m

[mental tiger]

Uhh I did and after ante one I instantly went to ante 8

[brave ibex]

that doesn't seem like it was caused by azure seal

probably was the boss you fought

[mental tiger]

No, it was crimson heart

not even a modded boss

[echo jacinth]

mnm

[brave ibex]

there's a modded boss that can set ante to 8

it's probably that

[silver cobalt]

The joke

You scored too much on the joke

And that is the penalty

[mental tiger]

OH I THOUGHT IT RAISED THE SCORE

that sucks

[silver cobalt]

Lol

The Joke is evil

[mental tiger]

yeah

[snow rivet]

I actually misinterpreted it as the opposite a couple times, where you have to overscore or you'll be sent to the next multiple of 8 Ante, so I would purposely overscore. I only realized what I was doing wrong after doing it like three times.

[silver cobalt]

It should maybe be reworded

[clear hare]

More-line boss support was added after I wrote the descriptions for bosses
Some of them can definitely be reworded better now that I have this
During the stream MurphyObv also almost forgot about the blind effect

Because >2X is hard to discern from <2X

But now I have more room so I can do something like If score is larger than twice blind requirement, set ante to next multiple of 8

[rough violet]

when exactly will the concepting for this mod end

at what point do you say 'ok lets stop, this is whats going to be in cryptid 1.0'

[clear hare]

My plan is to just make 1.0 after 0.9

But still have updates (hopefully)

[rough violet]

theres a lot of stuff planned in the sheet though

and new stuff gets added like every month

[clear hare]

I think the beauty of this being community driven is that we’ll always have updates

Unless ppl lose interest

[rough violet]

thats fair

[clear hare]

Like even if I were to step down (which I don’t plan on doing for a while) there would still be work done on it

[deep kite]

Exactly

Best community mod ever

[rough violet]

im not the best at art but i feel like doing something so im gonna try some of the vouchers

[deep kite]

Anyways W shouldn't exist because W is for WARIO

https://tenor.com/view/wario-wario-world-gamecube-nintendo-angry-gif-13304262

[wary pasture]

Waluigi

[deep kite]

I added a wario legendary to the suggestions sheet

[wary pasture]

give x5 chips per joker you have

[clear hare]

Might be a bit too similar tho

Maybe per card held in hand?

[oak herald]

mime baron 2
i love it

[soft night]

x1 chips per dollar you have

[clear hare]

Perhaps something like:
“All cards held in hand give +100 chips”

[cold sandal]

I have an idea (That most likely will be ignored / not make it, but I'm posting it here anyways)

What if for the credits there were mentions of specific sets of Jokers able to be credited to one (Probably 1 to 3 would still work) person? Like the m invasion Jokers, if I'm not mistaken were all concepted, the art for was all done by, and (I assume) most (If not all) or a good percentage of the coding was done by Jevonn, so that specific pack / setting could be credited to Jevonn.

Just hypothetical though

[clear hare]

I actually have a plan for how to display the credits

The idea is to add a tab in the in-game credits and separate art/concepting/programming

Or maybe put it in Cryptid menu idk

[jaunty scarab]

There’s a draft PF for both an additions tab and a credits bad for Steamodded

The credits part needs redone and there’s a few missing features for it

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/171

[clear hare]

Oh that’s perfect

I’d probably stick it in there

I might still use my own settings tab to put it with other Spectral Pack mods, most of which don’t use Steamodded

[wary pasture]

How does this look for replica?

[rough violet]

feels out of place without the yellow

[brave ibex]

i agree

maybe recolor the mirror

[wary pasture]

I've got a few different backgrounds

[rough violet]

thought on this wip for conspiracy

ill add 4 cards to the top

[brave ibex]

i like number 4 best

[rough violet]

same 4 looks like the right balance

[wary pasture]

Files for Replica & Trade.

[wary pasture]

I also made an alt for concentration

[subtle nova]

TBH I like #1 the most

[rough violet]

holy shit making art is hard

[subtle nova]

Making art is easy just steal other peoples and down scale it

[rough violet]

this is all ive gotten after like an hour 😭

im very unproductive

[scenic pumice]

"Good artists borrow, great artists steal" -Flare, 11/7/24

[severe jetty]

Have you thought about an epic grade joker that makes all jokers ignore destroy effects

[clear hare]

might be a bit too specific

[brave ibex]

that makes jokers worse

[severe jetty]

That’s fair

[brave ibex]

imagine getting canio with no scaling

[clear hare]

a good idea might be to remove all downsides of all jokers but I already put that in othermod concepting lol

[brave ibex]

or dagger that does nothing

[raven wedge]

doesnt mean you cant remove it

[severe jetty]

I’m just trying to break ankh like back when hidden aces was around

[clear hare]

yeah

[severe jetty]

Btw love your mod

[clear hare]

main reason was to troll the dev because it would be a pain to implement and they pretty much learned everything about modding from square one

[clear hare]

ty!

[clear hare]

there's a joker that removes downsides of spectrals planned

so ankh would just copy a random joker

[severe jetty]

Ooooooh

Fuck yea cryptid is going on my permanent mod list

[clear hare]

probably something good to add soon

there are still some jokers concepted from the very beginning that didn't get added yet lol

that one included

[severe jetty]

Any jokers that you wanted to make but think you might have to scrap due to limitations?

[clear hare]

to be honest a lot of the jokers I thought would be rly hard to implement ended up being much easier than expected

like I thought double scale would be near-impossible but it works smoothly and has pretty solid mod compatibility

I think only limit is it won't work with jokers that scale multiple values at once

[brave ibex]

I changed a few from their original effects :(

[severe jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-spongebob-epic-spongebob-speedrun-any-percent-geile-klöten-when-imposter-is-delicious-gif-19750086

[raven wedge]

i love mountain of smiling bodies

[severe jetty]

Oh yea one more question if you don’t mind

Are you planning any more custom editions?

[clear hare]

depends on if any suggestions are good

[cold sandal]

Can't wait for Repetere to be really easy for no reason whatsoever {It won't be}

[clear hare]

will probably add a tetration edition, maybe ^chips if ppl want

oh yeah repetere is going to have to be limited like a lot

because if I do it the naive way it's going to break everything

[soft night]

ok why is everything going to the left

packs, consumables, etc.

[cold sandal]

Not the unspecified credits 💀

[brave ibex]

good enough for me

[clear hare]

message history exists guys

[brave ibex]

that takes too much time out of balatro gaming

[cold sandal]

Top one i can find i shall go

Time to specify

[rough violet]

any ideas on how to improve this

(this is conspiracy btw)

[clear hare]

maybe add bg effects somehow?

[rough violet]

was considering but since its a tier 1 voucher im not sure

[gray elm]

2nd card should be on top of ace

[silver cobalt]

actually crazy how its been so long with 0 mods adding new consumable types

[gray elm]

and make the other card different suits

[silver cobalt]

pretty sure last mod that did it was mine lol

[brave ibex]

bonus blinds

[rough violet]

the tarot is a star so i wanted it all to be diamonds

[silver cobalt]

oh forgot

[rough violet]

but im open to making it all different suits

[gray elm]

I didn't realise

[silver cobalt]

those blinds suck why would you ever fight them lol

[gray elm]

more shop

[rough violet]

(even though diamonds is the only one i can draw XD)

[clear hare]

memory tag isn't working right I don't think

[rough violet]

thats intended right

also will incantation stack tags of the same type

[silver cobalt]

why are you making memory tag cat tag is the true best tag

[clear hare]

cat tag is my peak of balatro modding

it can't get any better

also going to try and get it to display a fool-like thing where it shows you what it copies

[rough violet]

conspiracy done (yay i finally did something)

[clear hare]

couldn't get the fancy UI to work so you'll have to settle with this

[cold sandal]

I think I got it right I grabbed every source from this channel for the code cards so some may be inaccurate however

I couldn't find stuff for:
://MALWARE
://DIVIDE
://UPDATE
://ASSEMBLE
://MACHINECODE
://COMMIT

[clear hare]

rare tag gave me SUS right when I found a bug

those may have been on the doc directly

which was anonymous iirc

[cold sandal]

Oh wait

Divide is somethign else renamed

I forgot what it was

aaaaa

[deep kite]

My idea for Wario is that it's basically "Ortalab Waluigi", but maybe the chops idea could work

[clear hare]

oh btw cat rewind doesn't work

since cat can't be used

finally got this to actually work yippee

[rough violet]

limbo tag: gives a keychain

[raven wedge]

why wouldnt it work lol

is it because tags are not cards

[rough violet]

imagine double tag copying triple tag

[clear hare]

it's not through loc txt and I can't get the generate ui override working

[soft night]

they were mine

i just added them to the doc myself on my own time

also why didnt yall ask the resident furry artist to make the cat tag art >:(

[clear hare]

you can always replace it

if you make a better one

[soft night]

tru

[clear hare]

like how I just replaced gambler tag art

[soft night]

Theoretical Joker (Epic)
Always Negative.
x1.5 Mult per filled Joker slot.
Does not count as a Joker.

[violet egret]

definitely an epic

[soft night]

epic it is

[violet egret]

better than baseball card

[soft night]

also it's immune to anything that affects Jokers

[violet egret]

also it should have the joker stencil wording

oh

if it is then sure

[soft night]

because it's only theoretical

[violet egret]

keep the wording

[rough violet]

wait what the fuck

that was just a joke 😭

thanks for adding it in anyway

[scenic scaffold]

Let's Go Gambling

[clear hare]

first time I've had to use this placeholder art

[wary badger]

2x5x

[rough violet]

shouldnt it be quad tags become quintuple tags

[soft night]

Consumables that tend to have drastically more profound effects on actual gameplay elements rather than decks or hands.

• new desc for code cards in the doc

[soft night]

i should probably update my T3 vouchers to include this template huh

[clear hare]

ye it's the one that won

[soft night]

will do when im not tired

[clear hare]

alr going to add a few decks then call it

[severe jetty]

i never thought i would say this but canvas joker is the first modded joker that i feel is a "with great power comes great responsibility" kinda deal

be mindfull where you place it lest you wait 30 minutes for your game to figure out what the fuck you just did as it triggers 13 jokers 148 times each

[cold sandal]

Ik you've already got everything but I had a funny idea for a code card that just trolls you

://PACKETLOSS
-Create a Pinned Eternal Speculo and a Pinned Eternal Canvas {Speculo would be to the left of Canvas}

[severe jetty]

THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME

speculo+canvis is one hell of a drug dude

[cold sandal]

Negative Joker Spawning Sound Intensifies

[summer cargo]

(Speculo/Perkeo) + Canvas is a one stop shop to 1FPS town

Incantation makes the latter not QUITE as bad but even still...

[clear hare]

another way to buff antimatter deck

[cold sandal]

Antimatter with more Negative Jokers and you start with an Exotic

[severe jetty]

we eatin good next update

[cold sandal]

Antimatter is gonna be even better when Thorn Deck is added lmao

infinite discards is not something it needs

[summer cargo]

If negative playing cards get added to Steamodded as a functional thing at some point I think decks gonna go crazy since you could get the negative edition deck added

[clear hare]

they are

already

[summer cargo]

oh they are??

[clear hare]

also I made ccd work with this too

screw it let me add negative deck for the content

[cold sandal]

Why do I get the feeling Deck of Lust is gonna be painful to code

[summer cargo]

negative deck is like, immediately going to start fighting DoE for second-most broken deck

since it effectively has free efficiare and infinite joker slots

[clear hare]

it probably will be

[cold sandal]

Doesn't Negative make the Jokers cost $3 extra?

You may have infinite Joker slots but you're gonna have some money problems

[clear hare]

this looks so sick

[summer cargo]

econ jokers:

[cold sandal]

econ jokers (That you can't afford due to econ problems):

[clear hare]

i love how the draw anim is instant

thanks steamodded

or maybe talisman? idk

bro it looks like I'm using nopeus lmao

i bought SUS for ultimate deck thinning

[summer cargo]

the buffoon packs aren't any more expensive so y'know

[cold sandal]

Yeah but getting econ jokers isn't guaranteed from buffoon packs

And they could end up giving nothing useful

[summer cargo]

given you effectively have free royal flushes every round you have time to scale lol

[clear hare]

holy moly riff raff is goated now

[summer cargo]

flashbacks to riffraff on jokers for hire deck and this funny piece of code

[clear hare]

lol

[cold sandal]

No fun allowed 💀

[clear hare]

fortunately i allow fun

[true harness]

Effarcire at home

[clear hare]

this is what effarcire should be

[cold sandal]

Cant wait for the frozen curse deck

Chance to just lose because all your cards are frozen

[summer cargo]

good fodder for Dark Evil Matter Deck that combines every downside

[clear hare]

:D from riff raff gave me two rares lmao

and ones that work too

[true harness]

what does Sob do

iirc when I bought it it gave me eternal poly obelisk
then when I sold it it gave me poly obelisk

[clear hare]

it gives you obelisk

a lot of obelisk

[cold sandal]

Don't even get me started on why every downside in a deck is a bad idea

[soft night]

btw can i has answer

[summer cargo]

ok i dont think combining every downside would actually be like. playable

• no interest
• -3 hands/round
• -2 discards/round
• -1 consumable slot
• -1 joker slot
• x2 blind size
• no vouchers
• cards cannot change enhancements, seals, suits or editions

[summer cargo]

Ghosts?

[rough violet]

-3 joker slots actually

not to mention very fair deck and the others