💻・modding-dev

[stray warren]

Different colored outputs?

[rough furnace]

mostly on the handling of different types of logs

follow up of a chat we had last night

[stray warren]

I like it

[stray warren]

(Me, only using sendDebugMessage)

🤦‍♂️

[rough furnace]

Me only using print

well I don't in debug plus cause the console doesn't like when I do

[stray warren]

I honestly didn't think print would work, so I've only been using the debug option

don't know why I thought that

[rough furnace]

I mean debug plus doesn't depend on steamodded so I can't use it's logging stuff

oh also I forgor to add a info message example

[stray warren]

Btw, DebugPlus is great. I love being able to see my print statements without having to tab out to the console

[rough furnace]

anyways I was thinking I might merge trace and debug, and fatal and error

thanks

okay how's this?

[royal ether]

this is really bad practice. overwriting a function completely like this will ruin mod compatibility. use hooking if possible, and a patch otherwise

[muted pier]

this was very temporary dw

[royal ether]

ok

[stray warren]

Yeah that looks pretty good.

[hushed cradle]

how do hooks work?

[royal ether]

this is a simple example

basically you override a function, then run the function as it was before within the override

that way you can tack whatever you want before or after the function happens

also you have to return the old return values if the function returns something in its unmodified form

[tepid crow]

(it's sometimes also called function wrapping)

[royal ether]

the reason you do this instead of just copy pasting the function when you override is so that other mods can wrap the same function

[tepid crow]

Which of the 2 is generally considered better practice btw, hooking/wrapping, or lovely patching? Assuming both are non-overwriting.

[hushed cradle]

cool

thanks

[edgy reef]

It depends, if you need it to occur in the middle of the function or it’s cleaner to occur in the middle then lovely patching is better.

If you can get away with hooking the function, then hooking would be better.

[tepid crow]

Yeah, that was my thought too. Hooking is probably preferred, but there are cases where lovely patching is better.

[zealous glen]

What do you think of the following Boss Blinds (not Showdown):

1. Hearts and Clubs are debuffed.
2. Forces 1 card to always be selected.
3. Forces 1 Face card to always be selected.
4. (Showdown) [Most common Suit] are debuffed

[languid mirage]

2 is already a showdown boss blind tho

[zealous glen]

So is The Wall and Violet Vessel

[languid mirage]

vv is larger

[zealous glen]

But both are big

I could make Cerulean Bell 2 cards

Although I didn’t want to rebalance vanilla

[tepid crow]

I presume these are harder than the vanilla game's bosses on purpose?

[languid mirage]

maybe like if you discard it will force 1 card to be selected

[zealous glen]

I don’t think Cerulean Bell is that big of a deal as a normal Boss

I think it would be fun

[languid mirage]

using discard forces 1 card to be selected

[zealous glen]

I don’t think that effect makes sense mechanically

[zealous glen]

I only added 3 because I expected people to complain about 2

[tepid crow]

🤣

[languid mirage]

can't 2 just be like numbered cards only

opposite of 3

[zealous glen]

I thought of 1 because I just had a good name and icon for it

The Eclipse

[zealous glen]

Not opposite because Aces. But I’d probably only do 2 or 3 not both

[tepid crow]

boss 1 might be a bit harsh if it comes early, and boss 2 can be a pain depending on the hands the player goes for

[surreal marsh]

cards in my area aren't saved 🤔 they disappear after loading a game. How to fix

[muted pier]

the problem with this for mine, is that i needed to actually edit the code rather than just calling the old function

i tried to wrap it, but didnt have any luck

[zealous glen]

I think you need to add your CardArea to the part of the game where they save CardAreas

[zealous glen]

If you can’t prepped or append, you can inject with lovely

[royal ether]

thats when you lovely patch

[royal ether]

meant to reply w/ that last msg oopsie

[muted pier]

ah gotcha, haven't ever messed with lovely so no clue how that works

[zealous glen]

The idea was for them to come up later anyways

[royal ether]

theres plenty of mods that use lovely, you can study 'em

[surreal marsh]

it seems that cardareas in G are automatically saved

[wintry solar]

Is your card area stored in G?

[surreal marsh]

yes

[languid mirage]

Maybe CardArea:save() does not know how to serialize your abilities

Not at pc to check how it works tho

Or maybe the area is serialized, but isn't deserialized (or fails to)

[tepid crow]

CardArea:save() basically saves its own config, and calls :save() on each of its cards.
Might break if :save() is not properly implemented on a possibly custom card object?

didnt mean to tag you btw, my bad

[solid salmon]

2 questions

[languid mirage]

Ye that's what I meant kinda, or it doesn't deserialize properly

[languid mirage]

I don't care about pings, actually prefer them most of the times

[solid salmon]

do these look to jokery and which is the best looking one (excluding blue and red because that art wasn't made by me

[tepid crow]

I like the juicebox and glass drink, mostly because they look the most 3d-ish

[surreal marsh]

where is the load save function 🤔 i can't find it

[tepid crow]

You mean CardArea's? It's in the cardarea.lua file

but if that's what you're asking I feel like I'm missing something

[languid mirage]

Check where it's being called from

[languid mirage]

Oh that logic is pretty confusing, I didn't look too much into it with how load_ in G is handled

Well actually I think it makes sense, like the serialized data is stored to load after CardArea is added

[tepid crow]

it seems that about 800 lines later all the load_ stuff gets handled individually (e.g. if G.load_shop_jokers then )

but there might be some dynamic stuff I'm missing too

[languid mirage]

Ohh right, that error always pops up when you load save while in shop

[surreal marsh]

I found this

[languid mirage]

So maybe you'd need to add something similar

[surreal marsh]

oh i know

loading G.betmma_abilities happens in Game_start_run_ref so my code overrides loaded cardarea🤔

[crisp coral]

i think you just have to call the ref later

[tepid crow]

sounds like you just need to instantiate before calling the ref yeah

instead of after

[surreal marsh]

🤪

[solid salmon]

On a scale of delete this now to good how would you rate this?

[surreal marsh]

🎉

[solid salmon]

what's that ability?

[solid salmon]

ok

[languid mirage]

Glitched seed is kinda confusing for non modding people

[surreal marsh]

yeah

i'll change the text and it's effect later

[languid mirage]

Makes sense

[tepid crow]

is GIL a python reference or just generic programming

[languid mirage]

Cool concept tho

[shell timber]

next 3 random effects always pick the first option / yes

GIL is a python thing iirc

[surreal marsh]

yes

[tepid crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/286529073445076992.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[surreal marsh]

when you open a pack pseudorandom is called a few times but if return values of these calls are set to 0 nothing special happens

for lucky cards and glass cards the effect is huge

[muted pier]

gonna try make a "Solitare" themed joker, which when you discard your first single card, if its the next card in the straight (A-K), it'll just destroy it. Then it just spits out a new deck with a huge mult on it.

when you finish your deck*

another joker i programmed in just earlier too

im very proud of the art haha

[crisp coral]

...flush pair of aces????

[muted pier]

pair of aces with the same suit

[tepid crow]

art is nice! the card ability is gibberish to me though 😂

[muted pier]

like Oops! All 6s, but instead of doubling all odds, it multiplies all of them by its value

so you can end up with always active Lucky Cards

but always breaking Glass Cards

i thought about just halving the odds, but didn't like it ig

[tepid crow]

ahhhh, so OA6s but with variable luck changes instead of just 2x

[muted pier]

ye

and if its sold it just resets all odds

[solid salmon]

should the background change based of the potions color scheme

or keep the background like this

[muted pier]

maybe add a soft gradient?

between all the colors

[tepid crow]

color scheme should probably be consistent (like all other consumables I believe, which I'm assuming potions are?)

[solid salmon]

mayhaps

also i accidently made a shadow

[crisp coral]

yeah this is the preferred wording i think

[muted pier]

Flush Pair makes sense no?

[crisp coral]

i'd assume "flush pair of aces" means hand contains a pair of Aces that also makes a flush

[muted pier]

oh

[tepid crow]

only if flush pair is implemented properly as a poker hand, otherwise I wouldn't do that

[muted pier]

fair enough

[tepid crow]

would you be interested in any other feedback?

[muted pier]

sure

[tepid crow]

feels like the text is quite long yet still doesn't describe the joker's base effect very explicitly

could you do something similar to DNA?

[muted pier]

yeah formatting is kinda tricky, thats a good example for it actually

[tepid crow]

you could start with something like this

If first hand of round is a pair of same-suited aces increase all odds by 0.05

maybe then you'll also have space to spare to describe Snake Eyes!'s probability multiplier effect more

[solid salmon]

like this?

ok

Also does anyone have the balatro alphabet

[muted pier]

like? the fonts?

[solid salmon]

ye

[muted pier]

just open the exe in winrar and get them from resources/fonts

[muted pier]

very wordy 😭

[tepid crow]

😬

[crisp elbow]

If you're looking for like tarot fonts it's in the modding thread somewhere

[muted pier]

if it helps make sense, im a Magic: the Gathering player lmao

also a silly little deck

[crisp elbow]

https://github.com/balamod/aseprite-balamod-extension/tree/main/fonts

[tepid crow]

yeah, not sure what to do about the wordiness, might not be helped with such a complicated effect 😬

[tawny perch]

that ability is a tad too complex

[muted pier]

its fun tho

[brisk quartz]

i guess it's fine but -1 consumable slot? why?

[solid salmon]

tada

[crisp elbow]

Is there a function already built into Balatro that is called whenever a pack is opened? I tried checking for pack_open and the only thing I found is context.open_booster, which I think is only used for Hallucination

tldr; just trying to see if there is a vanilla way to open a booster without writing a new function for it

spawning and then opening

[muted pier]

check under tags

[muted pier]

idk, needed some kind of downside

[brisk quartz]

i really don't think this needed a downside tbh

[muted pier]

really? okay

[brisk quartz]

it just seems like worse than nebula deck

[muted pier]

i feel like 5 extra aces or 5 extra kings is pretty strong...

[brisk quartz]

it probably is since you can go for early 5oaks/full houses but i don't think it's that strong

[crisp elbow]

ty gamer 🙏 I think I found what I needed

[wintry solar]

Try using balatro black instead of pure black

[zealous glen]

How about:

Hearts and Clubs are drawn face-down
?

[zealous glen]

The art is very nice. The description is grokkable albeit it breaks the standards of the game

[zealous glen]

I wouldn’t say “same-suited” but “with the same suit”. Also, I’d use the green probability color for the “5%” and “X1”. Finally, you should decide between “5%” and “100%” or “X1.05” and “X1”, but not both.

By the way, I imagine this kind of effect doesn’t work with O!A6s and other modded probability changing mods

[zealous glen]

Based on the number of MTG custom cards I’ve seen, most players can’t get the wording right even if it’s one of the most consistent games in regards to wording

[tepid crow]

By the way, I imagine this kind of effect doesn’t work with O!A6s and other modded probability changing mods
I'm just wondering, why wouldn't it?

isn't it just oa6s with a variable instead of 2?

[muted pier]

oh i meant this in the sense of making convoluted effects ahaha

[languid mirage]

Does anyone know where I can see how vanilla objects are being registered in steamodded?

cuz there's an issue with seal spectrals

[zealous glen]

What happens when you sell O!A6s?

[languid mirage]

they don't show tooltips for seals with steamodded

[muted pier]

yeah the 5% was last minute and forgot to fix it.

and it does work with the probabilities being changed, as i technically save the base of it as the card is created, and uses the bases to multiply

[tepid crow]

it undoes the x2? I don't see your point

[zealous glen]

MTG also isn’t very convoluted in the grand scheme of card games. But definitely more than Balatro

[muted pier]

O!A6s directly multiplies the probabilities

which isnt an ideal design but would technically require a bit of a rewrite

[zealous glen]

Oh wait I forgot O!A6s was also multiplicative

If both are multiplicative it works

It’s just additive and multiplicative effects that won’t mix well

[muted pier]

when its bought it just multiplies the base probabilities

[tepid crow]

yeah they're both multiplicative

[muted pier]

and when its sold it divides it

[zealous glen]

Some vanilla effects are only additive or only multiplicative

So you can’t do the other without breaking or refactoring vanilla

And refactoring will break compatibility with other mods

(Breaking will break vanilla and other mods)

[muted pier]

snake eyes actually originally multiplied all probabilities by 150% when i first designed it haha

so 1 in 3 became 3 in 6

[tepid crow]

you mean the implementation of take_ownership?

[muted pier]

and 1 in 15 became 3 in 30

but that became super broken super quick with lucky cat

[languid mirage]

nevermind, I found the code that adds tooltips, kinda weird that they're not working as they clearly exist in the lua dump

[zealous glen]

IIRC 0.9.8 had tooltip issues

[frosty dock]

hm that's surely not supposed to happen

[languid mirage]

wait where do I even find seal prototypes

nevermind

found them

[regal wolf]

what is the issue ur getting?

[languid mirage]

steamodded removes seal tooltips from spectrals

that's the issue

[iron sphinx]

why are you in modding-dev not anywhere else

[languid mirage]

ok I am certified blind

holy shit

how did I not see that line

should be a simple fix

actually no idea where that line comes from, definitely not steamodded

probably cryptid 🤔

ya

[mellow sable]

Guess that’s not a good place to inject it

[languid mirage]

ye I made a PR with fix

have to wait until steamodded merges the tooltip fix for enhancements tho

[sly forge]

I am taking a look at this. commenting on Github

[sly forge]

You can use the vanilla method of inserting the whole Center as an element of info_queue

[languid mirage]

you mean like vanilla enhancements?

I just copied code for process_loc_text from seals, didn't give too much thought, it worked for my use case so I just left it as is

[sly forge]

yes, I believe seals are special in that they're never actually stored in cards

they're weird

[languid mirage]

Is it like G. P_CENTERS['enhancement_key']

To access the tooltip

Or something along the lines

[sly forge]

yeah

[languid mirage]

@mellow sable can you edit my PR then

To cryptid

[mellow sable]

Can you make this also work for like jokers too

That way I don’t have to do some weird workaround to make them localize properly

[mellow sable]

yep, I’ll change it when I get back on my computer

[sly forge]

Try the vanilla method out directly

[mellow sable]

I will when I get a change

I know before what happened was the loc_vars didn’t work

[solid salmon]

Totally balanced lemonade

[stray warren]

If i'm looping through the scoring_hand, is there a way to check if v is a stone card? Something like this:

        for k, v in pairs(scoring_hand) do
            if v:is_stone() then
                
            end
        end

I don't have access to context in this scope

[zealous glen]

You can check the name

Like the game does

But there’s no built-in function AFAIK. Thunk just does it manually each time

[mellow sable]

even for the enhancements it doesn't quite work

although this might also be my fault

[sly forge]

bit hard to say. localize() might need patching by Steamodded, if it relies on the center's name field? wild guess

if you can find the bug, that'd be great!

[mellow sable]

local eclipse = {
    object_type = "Consumable",
    set = "Tarot",
    name = "cry-Eclipse",
    key = "eclipse",
    pos = {x=0,y=0},
    config = {mod_conv = 'm_cry_echo', max_highlighted = 1, enhancement = {retriggers = 2, extra = 2}},
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'The Eclipse',
        text = {
            "Enhances {C:attention}#1#{} selected card",
            "into an {C:attention}Echo Card"
        }
    },
    atlas = "eclipse_atlas",
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue)
        info_queue[#info_queue+1] = G.P_CENTERS.m_cry_echo
        return {vars = {self.config.max_highlighted}}
    end,
}

relevant code section

going to see if removing my info queue lovely patches fixes it

[frosty dock]

if the thing you put in info_queue needs vars, you need to specify them

[mellow sable]

ok but how

[frosty dock]

I'd imagine something along the lines of

info_queue[#info_queue+1] = { set = 'Enhanced', key = 'm_cry_echo', vars = G.P_CENTERS.m_cry_echo:loc_vars(info_queue).vars }

[mellow sable]

alr

[zealous glen]

Should this be an argument to localize?

[wintry solar]

This is also how I did it for seals

I believe

[mellow sable]

going to try it out

[zealous glen]

Because Negative Consumables have an argument which is passed to localize I think

[mellow sable]

issue might have been just because of the set being wrong

[zealous glen]

I’m not sure what the argument is for

[frosty dock]

actually it bypasses generate_ui and just goes through the default code for the Enhanced set which falls back to an empty table loc_vars

so it might actually need some more patching

[mellow sable]

yeah can't get past this even with a few different things

info_queue[#info_queue+1] = {
            set = 'Enhanced',
            key = 'm_cry_echo',
            vars = { self.config.enhancement.retriggers, G.GAME.probabilities.normal, self.config.enhancement.extra }
        }

tried this with vars and my own patch to get loc vars and ... nothing

https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/pull/173
might need to look back into something like this, stupxd was able to get it working with this PR

[edgy reef]

I do know that tooltips are sometimes really weird.

[long gust]

m

[edgy reef]

I have D6 Sides set up to create a 2nd version of their desc with Other as the set for displaying tooltips.

[royal smelt]

i'm making like a laughably simple mod that replaces a single joker texture, but i'm for whatever reason unable to get steamodded to actually see the mod and load it

the entire mod's code is just this

--- STEAMODDED HEADER
--- MOD_NAME: bornana
--- MOD_ID: bornana
--- MOD_AUTHOR: [mackwell, kat]
--- MOD DESCRIPTION: Replaces the Cavendish Joker sprite with a far cooler one.

----------------------------------------------
------------MOD CODE -------------------------
sendDebugMessage("Bornana!")
    
SMODS.Atlas(key = "Joker", path = "Jokers.png", px = 71, py = 95, prefix_config = {key = false})
----------------------------------------------
------------MOD CODE END----------------------

and this is my file structure

[maiden phoenix]

Folder should be named "assets" not "textures"

[frosty dock]

You should spot the error looking at the error message

[royal smelt]

oh right

[royal smelt]

there is no error

[frosty dock]

folder name is wrong

[maiden phoenix]

Oops sorry

[royal smelt]

also

the folder name is changed in my actual Balatro/Mods folder

still doesn't get loaded

[frosty dock]

oh didn't spot that actually

your syntax is off

the table passed to SMODS.Atlas needs to be in a table constructor (wrapped in {}, not ())

[royal smelt]

ah i am blind

[frosty dock]

I'm even more blind apparently

[maiden phoenix]

We all are

[frosty dock]

--- MOD DESCRIPTION:

[royal smelt]

IT SHOULD HAVE AN UNDERSCORE

[frosty dock]

needs to have an underscore instead of a space

[royal smelt]

man

there we go now im actually getting an error message

lmao

[string "--- STEAMODDED HEADER..."]:14: attempt to call field 'Atlas' (a nil value)                                                                         Stack Traceback                                                                                                                                             ===============                                                                                                                                             (1) Lua local 'handler' at file 'main.lua:6002'                                                                                                                     Local variables:                                                                                                                                             msg = string: "[string \"--- STEAMODDED HEADER...\"]:14: attempt to call field 'Atlas' (a nil value)"

i was pretty much copying general structure from https://github.com/Steamopollys/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/Mods/NegateTexturePack/NegateTexturePack.lua
so i'm going to assume that that example mod might be out of date?

[long gust]

m

[frosty dock]

actually that would be your steamodded installation being out of date

the main branch on github is the WIP/alpha 1.0 version of the loader

[royal smelt]

i installed through git and checked out 0.9.8
is that not the most recent release?

[frosty dock]

1.0 is a complete rewrite

example mods on the main branch are updated to it, breaking compatibility with 0.9.8

[royal smelt]

ah that would do it

[frosty dock]

you probably shouldn't start with 0.9.8 now since it's getting more outdated by the minute

[royal smelt]

so i should look at the 0.9.8 branch version of the example

oh

nevermind then i will just checkout the main branch

[frosty dock]

you'll end up updating anyways, it doesn't make a lot of sense to start making new mods on 0.9.8

[solid salmon]

very balanced

Im using my mod and betmma's vouchers

[willow quiver]

Is there a way to look at the decompiled code post-injection?

[mellow sable]

Mods/lovely/dump

[willow quiver]

thanks, taking a look at a crash while my mod was disabled. might be a different mod's issue

[edgy reef]

YIPPEE

[mellow sable]

pog

[rough furnace]

anyways I need some good debug commands

probably commands to set basic values

money

ante

round

eval

[edgy reef]

Set rank of a card (can't remember if there's a rank change button)

I'll go ahead and play with it a little for D6 Jokers.

[rough furnace]

oh yeah I was going to make a change rank button but forgor

[edgy reef]

btw if you're going to do support for other mods to make commands may I suggest a shorthand matching the mod prefix that has to be typed out before the command (like "dsix echo text" instead of "echo text")? This would avoid making commands that have the same ID conflict with each other whilst also not requiring them to have a shorthand built into the command key itself.

[rough furnace]

yeah I alreayd got a id system

I've messed with minecraft servers before

it just chooses the first it finds that matches

[mellow sable]

Command to spawn or remove an item by id

[edgy reef]

Also can it print multiple lines? Pretty important for a command like "help"

It's as easy as that.

Free Plague Die spoilers for the fun of it

[limpid flint]

||HELP||

[rough furnace]

Yeah. You can even type them with shift + enter

[hushed cradle]

anyone know how i can skip a blind?

[languid mirage]

Like win it? There's a debug mode tab option for it

[limpid flint]

What do you mean skip a blind? Specify it

[hushed cradle]

sorry i mean like

when you have the option to skip for a double tag or smth

is there a function to skip the blind that i can put in a mod?

[tepid crow]

like a custom/modded tag?

[muted pier]

-- code recycled from: "functions/button_callbacks.lua#2711"

function skip_current_blind()
  G.GAME.skips = (G.GAME.skips or 0) + 1
  
  local skipped, skip_to = G.GAME.blind_on_deck or 'Small', 
    G.GAME.blind_on_deck == 'Small' and 'Big' or G.GAME.blind_on_deck == 'Big' and 'Boss' or 'Boss'

  G.GAME.round_resets.blind_states[skipped] = 'Skipped'
  G.GAME.round_resets.blind_states[skip_to] = 'Select'
  G.GAME.blind_on_deck = skip_to
  
  G.E_MANAGER:add_event(Event({
    trigger = 'immediate',
    func = function()
      delay(0.3)
      for i=1,#G.jokers.cards do
        G.jokers.cards[i]:calculate_joker({skip_blind=true})
      end
      save_run()
      for i=1,#G.GAME.tags do
        G.GAME.tags[i]:apply_to_run({type='immediate'})
      end
      for i=1,#G.GAME.tags do
        if G.GAME.tags[i]:apply_to_run({type='new_blind_choice'}) then break end
      end
      return true
    end
  }))
end

[frosty dock]

love the 'Boss' or 'Boss' in there ngl

[languid mirage]

😹

[languid mirage]

~~Hey, so I did some digging and found out that approach you suggested would only work if the tooltip doesn't use any game-specific values. ~~

Using P_CENTERS instance only works if the prototype has specific_vars, which doesnt even exist in vanilla prototypes, the game generates loc_vars dynamically in generate_card_ui (so stuff like probabilities is up to date), and then uses those as specific_vars

I'm not entirely sure if process_loc_text suggested by me is the easiest approach here tho, I'll do some thinking
managed to figure it out below

okay nevermind

so apparently even if you initialize empty specific_vars game would automatically update them already 🤔

[frosty dock]

specific_vars is a parameter to generate_card_ui, not a property on the center proto

[languid mirage]

well, somehow

[frosty dock]

_c.specific_vars is never used, so of course it does nothing

[languid mirage]

if I dont add specific_vars and try to use prototype for tooltip the game would crash when hovering on the item

which is why I tried adding specific_vars to the prototype in the first place

but I guess I should've checked what exactly happens in the main.lua there

so just a null check there

[frosty dock]

oh well

[languid mirage]

ye 2 null checks for specific_vars and it does not crash anymore

yay

[gilded narwhal]

Thoughts?

This is part of the cookie clicker mod btw

[opal spade]

very nice, although i feel like this needs some white (maybe white outline for the hands to make them pop?)

also stray pixels at the bottom oof

[gilded narwhal]

Very good suggestion

Also for coders how does one use the function create_card()

[rough furnace]

What are you creating?

[gilded narwhal]

I just wanna have this spectral create a specific card

[rough furnace]

I don't think I have a code example with me rn but check out the fool's code

[gilded narwhal]

Ty 👍

[hushed cradle]

i can send a ss of some code i have

its for a specific legendary joker tho so idk if its what you need

[hushed cradle]

thanks

[gilded narwhal]

It's prolly good enough

Although

[hushed cradle]

    key = 'first_seal',
    set = 'seal',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'First Seal',
        text = { 
            'Summon the first',
            'of the 4 Horsemen,',
            '{C:red}Conquest',
            '{C:inactive}(Must have room)',
        },
    },
    raw_atlas_key = 'Tarot',
    cost = 0,
    pos = {
        x = 0,
        y = 0,
    },
    unlocked = true,
    discovered = true,
    hidden = true,
    soul_rate = 1,
    soul_set = 'Spectral',
    can_repeat_soul = false,

    can_use = function(self, card)
        if #G.jokers.cards + G.GAME.joker_buffer < G.jokers.config.card_limit then
            return true
        end
    end,

    use = function(self, card, area, copier)
        local card = create_card('Joker', G.jokers, nil, nil, nil, nil, 'j_horsemen_conquest', nil)
        card:add_to_deck()
        G.jokers:emplace(card)
    end,
}

local conquest = SMODS.Joker{
    key = 'conquest',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Conquest',
        text = {
            'probably does something'
        },
    },
    config = {},
    rarity = 4,
    pos = {
        x = 0,
        y = 0,
    },
    raw_atlas_key = 'Joker',
    cost = 20,
    unlocked = true,
    discovered = false,
    blueprint_compat = false,
    eternal_compat = false,
    perishable_compat = false,

    in_pool = function(self)
        return false
    end
}```

not sure how to make it coloured

its mainly the can use and use in the top bit tho

[gilded narwhal]

?

Hold on lemme remove cryptid and try again

[hushed cradle]

are you spawning a joker?

[gilded narwhal]

No

[hushed cradle]

tbh my code is kinda ass

and looking back i dont understand it fully lol

you might need your mod prefix before the 'wrath_cookie'

[edgy reef]

The key needs to be the actual key, so it needs both the mod and object prefix

[hushed cradle]

can i call this from my mod or have i got to shove my own in my code?

prefix_c_wrath_cookie

[edgy reef]

Isn’t it c_prefix_wrath_cookie?

[hushed cradle]

i have no idea lol

[zealous glen]

I think the second to last argument can receive the key

Here's part of a Joker that creates Black Holes

[bitter sand]

guys ? how do i change required chip amount of a blind mid run in the blind choosing menu ?

[gilded narwhal]

What's the placeholder after c_black_hole?

[zealous glen]

Random generation seed. Usually the vanilla game uses the name of the card that created the effect to keep them different, and the current name of this Joker is a placeholder

[gilded narwhal]

Got it

[zealous glen]

It probably only matters in that it could influence another random generation if you used the same seed, but I think nil might be a valid input

[gilded narwhal]

And where does the prefix come from?

Is it this or something different?

[zealous glen]

I think changing the required amount is easy, but updating the onscreen text is a bit more complicated

Something like this should work

[bitter sand]

i have this code rn and i get an error at the first chips (i guess it's the first one)

just looks at line 232-233 the rest is the same

[zealous glen]

You are trying to access the actual Blind object which the game uses to create Blinds

Rather you want to change the variable stored in the game referring to the actual Blind's chips, or change something else so that value is changed when the Blind is created

[zealous glen]

Maybe G.GAME.blind doesn't exist while you're choosing Blinds, but outside of the UI update, I don't think there's much of a difference between doing it when you begin a Blind or before you choose it

[bitter sand]

this code will change it for every blind of the ante or just one ?

[gilded narwhal]

I also keep getting this

[zealous glen]

This was made to change the required Chips for the current Blind

[gilded narwhal]

I figured it out

[bitter sand]

messed a bit with my code (still doesn't work) and i though "f- it i'm just gonna ask what i want to do" and so what i want to do is a blind that makes every blinds of the ante requires 2x more chips

(including itself)

[gilded narwhal]

Hey this reminds me is there a way to change the base of a whole ante?

[zealous glen]

I think you can hook or inject somewhere where the Blind is set to change the required Chips as the Blind is created

Alternatively you could double the value of the Ante, which would naturally scale

[gilded narwhal]

Like I have a consumable in mind that decreases the base of this ante, but increases the base of next ante

[zealous glen]

I don't know exactly how the game handles it but there's a function to compute the Ante Base Chips value, you could hook or inject into it maybe

[gilded narwhal]

This is the source of all my crashes

I have everything else right

[gilded narwhal]

Nvm I got it

[shell tangle]

Where would I look to find the code for how The Soul uses two separate atlases?

[rough furnace]

I believe the card just has a property called soul_pos which let's you know

Steammodded supports it iirc

[gilded narwhal]

I'm definitely doing this wrong

[gilded narwhal]

Okay so this doesn't crash but it also doesn't spawn the golden cookie

[frosty dock]

logic error

your else block is on the card limit check

So it'll spawn the golden cookie if there's no room

[gilded narwhal]

Ohhhhh

I see

[shell tangle]

It works for the legendaries, but Soul does something special - I tried taking ownership, and setting a custom atlas with an pos and soul_pos, and it had pos as the background, soul_pos as a layer, and then the soul egg thing from the enhancements still on top, for 3 layers.

[gilded narwhal]

I never thought cookie clicker mod would go anywhere

[rough furnace]

Did I ever tell you all about the time I loaded steammodded using the settings file?

[fallen tendon]

The hell?

[shell tangle]

Here's the soul after taking ownership with just some extra colors thrown on as an example, the yellow part is what the soul_pos loads. The soul egg thing is not on the custom atlas.

[mellow sable]

It uses shared_soul or something weird like that

[shell tangle]

Thanks, I'll try searching around the code for it.

[hushed cradle]

looks pretty cool

the art is insane

did you do it?

[gilded narwhal]

I did everything except the actual cookie part of golden cookie

And I guess the hands in Fate is from michaelangelo but yeah

[hushed cradle]

damnn

i suck at pixel art and stuff lol

[gilded narwhal]

Hey is card:set_sticker a thing

[stray warren]

You'd probably be able to find out by CTRL + F in the card.lua file

[edgy reef]

Don’t think so

The game has stickers use their own set function

[muted pier]

you have to add it to your own code

[hushed cradle]

yeah i didnt realise it was a snippet of code at first

thanks

do you know if theres anyway to skip the a pack opening?

like the long ass animation when a booster pack opens

[muted pier]

you could find the code for opening a pack and mess with it

see if you can maybe hook it

[hushed cradle]

true

if i just up the game speed and then back to normal that might do it lol

[gilded narwhal]

Do you think there's a way I can get this monkey brain strategy to work

[crisp coral]

are you overriding it??

[gilded narwhal]

I'm altering card.lua

I'm not using lovely because I'm just testing

[hushed cradle]

i was testing a thing to auto reroll for specific legendaries and editions

and as a test i wanted to look for any legendary with foil

cos i thought that would be easiest

and i rolled past a negative perkeo

and like 5 polys and holos before i found 1 foil

[mellow sable]

Lmao

Did you make the auto reroll allow for any edition to pass?

[hushed cradle]

nope lol

atm its just a specific one

[mellow sable]

Ah

[hushed cradle]

do you have any idea if its possible to tell what legendaries and editions youre gonna get from the seeds

like brainstorm does

[mellow sable]

Definitely

[hushed cradle]

cos atm im getting it to open the pack and check

damn

[mellow sable]

I was the one who wrote the seed searcher and brainstorm autoreroll so I have some experience haha

[hushed cradle]

oh damn

i knew you made immolate

didnt know you made the brainstorm reroll tho

im gonna have a look at it but i literally dont get any of it

which is why i went with the easier version

[mellow sable]

The long-term plan is to make an easy filter system that both Immolate and Brainstorm can use

But I’ve been doing a lot of other projects so haven’t had much time for it yet

[hushed cradle]

fair enough

i thought about adding a ui thing into what im doing

but its literally just built on top of brainstorm

so ill be the only one using it so i cba

cos i dont think i can share stuff that is mostly not mine

[mellow sable]

You can always contribute to Brainstorm and make a pull request with your additions

[hushed cradle]

my code is so scuffed tho

[mellow sable]

oh

[hushed cradle]

i have so many checks cos otherwise the events go crazy

and i used events because if i did it without them it was too quick

[mellow sable]

yeah the way I do it doesn’t even need a full game instance really

[hushed cradle]

or smth

im not quite that smart

[mellow sable]

although I plan to refactor it to account for eg. Modded deck abilities that wouldn’t quite work with how it’s a bit hardcoded

[hushed cradle]

right yeah

make it search for gateways lol

[mellow sable]

lol

the benefit of not hardcoding it is that becomes possible

And with the Immolate-linked filter system it would be as easy as just checking for “Gateway” instead of “The Soul”

At least that’s the plan

[hushed cradle]

that would be super cool

[mellow sable]

My plan is to work on that after finishing Ankh (mod used for replays and security checking world record runs)

And then I also procrastinate by working on Cryptid

And I have other responsibilities too

[hushed cradle]

yeah i get you

ankh is cool

[mellow sable]

ty

[hushed cradle]

i dont even speedrun i just like having a timer

is there a way to make it continue into endless?

[mellow sable]

I plan to add that

[hushed cradle]

cool

look forward to it

[mellow sable]

For now the only workaround would be something scuffed like setting the category to 3 deck wins

But I’ll add a setting to have no category so the timer never splits or stops

Which is even more important since I’m also expanding the scope more towards not just speedruns

But also things like long ante 39 world record runs

[hushed cradle]

maybe one day ill make it that far

trance is also really good btw

i always use the simple blue

kinda because when i tried using my own colours it looked awful but the blue is really nice

[mellow sable]

ty

[hushed cradle]

nws

[hushed cradle]

for safety

[hushed cradle]

damn it acc works

left to grab a bowl of cereal and came back to this

[mellow sable]

nice

[hushed cradle]

trying to reach ante 39

[crisp coral]

#⚙・modding-general

not here

[hushed cradle]

sorry

[shell tangle]

After an hour or two, maybe three at this point, of messing around with the code, I have concluded I am too dumb to figure out how the shared_soul sprite works, or at least, any way to work with it without crashing. If anyone can manage to replace the Soul's soul thing, please show me the code and maybe walk me through it if I'm not able to understand it.

• raw_key does not replace the soul, but it does still replace decks and enhancements.
• Taking ownership as a consumable and setting a custom soul_pos does not work.
• Attempting to take ownership of it as a back like Trans Spectrals doesn't work, and Trans Spectrals does not replace the soul thing either.
• Writing to G.shared_soul may work, but I have no idea how to make it read a different atlas without crashing.

[languid mirage]

If you're trying to show soul sprite on consumable, you kinda need to hardcode it with a lovely patch

in card.lua if you search for if self.ability.name == 'The Soul' and (self.config.center.discovered or self.bypass_discovery_center) then

you can see how the game handles it

[shell tangle]

I'll give it a shot later, I did attempt use a lovely patch, but I was trying to change the G.shared_soul atlas in game.lua, thanks.

[languid mirage]

below it you can see how soul_pos is used as well, maybe that will be more helpful

also if you want to see the code after steamodded applied itself, you should check Mods/lovely/dump and find the respective file there

also you can find an example of how Gateway is created in Cryptid mod

it has 3 total layers

but you can just remove 1

basically the same as soul, but instead of G.shared_soul it uses the child sprite

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/blob/main/lovely/Gateway.toml

[shell tangle]

Ah, that. Did check out Gateway, but only the .Lua, not the .toml for it. Do recognize the code from soul, was kind of hoping I wouldn't have to mess with it, because anything with shaders simply haven't clicked for me at all, but I'll make another attempt.

Do you know off hand which function deals with setting children, by the way?

[languid mirage]

pretty sure it's in lua file

for it

[hushed cradle]

anyone know the exact score limit?

[languid mirage]

2^1024 in vanilla

around 1.8e308

[hushed cradle]

cool thank you

[languid mirage]

you can just search floating_sprite2 in the project

that's the easiest way to see where it's defined

[shell tangle]

Thanks for the help.

[languid mirage]

You're welcome

[wintry solar]

Are you just trying to modify soul or are you making a new card with a floating sprite?

[edgy reef]

I think allowing cards to have custom args for drawing their sprites would be pretty nice.

Don’t think that’s a thing Steamodded supports yet.

Or just custom handling of it

[wintry solar]

What sort of things are you thinking?

[edgy reef]

Just some Card:draw() function probably

Shouldn’t need much else than that

[oblique gust]

eventually there has to be two rows or even more for these dots

[wintry solar]

Is this deck selection? I have a reformat of it on my list of things to take a look at

[dim nimbus]

ive done spriting and pixel art before, but those were mostly small scale for minecraft mods. im surprisingly pleased at how this one is turning out
wip but it looks like something for sure!!!

[shell timber]

are the middle lines meant to curve like that?

[dim nimbus]

i was tweaking up and around with that pathway for longer than id like to admit.....

im sure when the finer details get put in it'll look better though lol

[languid mirage]

Btw it's better to share art in #🎨・fan-art, this chat is mostly for source code discussion

[dim nimbus]

got it thank you!!

[shell tangle]

Modify soul itself. Might be something to look into for the AltTextures that's in the works, actually.

[fallen tendon]

With the talisman mod it goes up to 10^10^308

[hushed cradle]

i was just trying to see how high i could score without naneinf for my stats

[crisp coral]

again, #⚙・modding-general if you're sharing your runs

[hushed cradle]

sorry

wont happen again

[austere schooner]

So, is there an easy way to double check if another mod is loaded

[languid mirage]

I think you can't really check it on startup reliably because other mod might load after yours

But after all mods are loaded you can probably use the same list that is displayed when you click mods in main menu

[austere schooner]

aha, SMODS.findModByID

[zealous glen]

Yes some mods had compatibility in 0.9.8

But you’ll want to make sure your mod is loaded after by changing your priority

[wintry solar]

It’s already supported in alt textures, but you’re looking to modify the centers atlas for now, unfortunately this will also affect enhancements and decks

[zealous glen]

Not sure how co-compatibility would work

[gilded narwhal]

Whenever I hover over a cadr

Specifically on antimatter deck

[lusty epoch]

update cryptid and steamodded then start new run

[shell tangle]

If you're saying right now, as in current main branch Steamodded Alpha, replacing centers using a raw_key = true atlas affects decks and enhancements, but does nothing to the floating soul sprite.
Also, replacing "Tarot" with raw_key only seems to modify Tarots, and after looking through the code, attempting to use what Palette does and replace "Spectral" and "Planet" with both raw_key = true and false, doesn't seem to replace anything. Still works by taking ownership, though.

Overall, though. if the current method is going to be depreciated soon, don't think there's a reason to bother to fix it, basically anything except the Soul with it's third sprite layer can be changed through Steamodded API, whether that's Atlas directly or taking ownership.

[wintry solar]

Huh, I would have thought centers would have changed it, as in the alt textures work I’ve done I’ve just made a new atlas for the soul specifically which can be changed live. Either way, I hope to have the new alt textures stuff released soon, so hopefully it won’t be much longer for you!

[opal spade]

any idea on how to make the sticker and the color match the stake?

testing code to swap stakes around, rn the only code is iterating through G.P_CENTER_POOLS['Stake'][2] swapping it with [8] (so red and gold stake respectively) + manually fixing up the .shiny

[grand violet]

Hey modders, I'll be on a trip for the next week or so, so I won't be around
Ping some other mods if you want stuff pinned in your modding threads
Thanks

~

[opal spade]

trying to do lovely injection, but it seems im doing something wrong because my patch doesnt appear in the dump

version = "1.0.0"
dump_lua = true
priority = 0

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/UI_definitions.lua"
pattern = 'G.GAME.stake > 1'
position = "at"
payload = 'G.P_CENTER_POOLS.["Stake"][G.GAME.stake].applied_stakes ~= {}'
match_indent = true``` lovely.toml at my mod's folder

[languid mirage]

it needs to be an entire line, otherwise you want to use regex patch

[opal spade]

thank you

[mellow sable]

Maybe you can take ownership of the stakes to swap their order?

[wintry solar]

is there a way to disable consumables being moved to the center when they expire?

[opal spade]

im currently investigating the code and tbh it seems like a lot of aspects related to vanilla stakes are still hardcoded

[zealous glen]

Is there a way to check for the current localization?

I guess I could just localize it—I'm returning

number > 1 and 's' or ''

as a localization variable

[opal spade]

not the colors though, the color pool just has to be updated after i shuffle the stakes

[mellow sable]

Steamodded actually re-registers all of the stakes so take a look at that part of the code

[opal spade]

ye i've taken a look at it

[opal spade]

the "stakes" button in run info is hardcoded to show up only if its past stake #1

[mellow sable]

Stake numbers are defined dynamically though I think

I wrote stake api like two months ago lol

It might be possible if you take ownership of all the stakes to change the dependencies and how they load

[opal spade]

the ui_definitions.lua seems to have a couple of hardcoded numbers (G.GAME.stake > 1 for stakes button, G.GAME.stake > 2 for "also applies" in the stakes menu)

[mellow sable]

Hmm that could still be an issue for modded stakes that don’t apply any other stakes

Or it might just be blank

[opal spade]

ye white stake past stake one is blank, red stake past stake 2 has "also applies" be blank

i've already written a lovely patch for the stakes button for my thing, but im still brainstorming the other one

[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/UI_definitions.lua"
pattern = 'G.GAME.stake > 1 and {'
position = "at"
payload = "#G.P_CENTER_POOLS['Stake'][G.GAME.stake].applied_stakes ~= 0 and {"
match_indent = true```

[mellow sable]

If you change the order that stakes register it might help?

[mellow sable]

but yeah ideally a patch like this should be merged in steamodded, since it’s possible to add a stake that doesn’t depend on any other stakes

[opal spade]

i can make a commit rn

[mellow sable]

Once it’s stable feel free to make a PR and I can review it

[languid mirage]

G.SETTINGS.language

I assume

Idk what's the value but probably en-us

[zealous glen]

I guess so thank you

This feels… too strong

[mellow sable]

why are the created cards not linked with the shop?

local epic_tag = {
    object_type = "Tag",
    atlas = "tag_cry",
    pos = {x=3, y=0},
    config = {type = 'store_joker_create'},
    key = "epic",
    loc_txt = {
        name = "Epic Tag",
        text = {
            "Shop has a half-price",
            "{C:cry_epic}Epic Joker"
        }
    },
    apply = function(tag, context)
        if context.type == 'store_joker_create' then
            local rares_in_posession = {0}
                for k, v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
                    if v.config.center.rarity == "cry_epic" and not rares_in_posession[v.config.center.key] then
                        rares_in_posession[1] = rares_in_posession[1] + 1 
                        rares_in_posession[v.config.center.key] = true
                    end
                end

                if #G.P_JOKER_RARITY_POOLS.cry_epic > rares_in_posession[1] then 
                    local card = create_card('Joker', context.area, nil, 1, nil, nil, nil, 'cry_eta')
                    create_shop_card_ui(card, 'Joker', context.area)
                    card.states.visible = false
                    tag:yep('+', G.C.RARITY.cry_epic,function() 
                        card:start_materialize()
                        card.misprint_cost_fac = 0.5
                        card:set_cost()
                        return true
                    end)
                else
                    tag:nope()
                end
                tag.triggered = true
                return card
        end
    end
}

been banging my head at this for a bit and can't figur eit out

[zealous glen]

what's context.area during runtime?

also maybe you can try create_card_for_shop from UI_definitions?

also I don't see an emplace

[stray warren]

nah, two pair doesn't get enough love

[mellow sable]

based on vanilla tags it should be done for you

if I add emplace it gets added to the shop but doesn't replace the current shop item

[zealous glen]

If you want to replace, you can just hook into create_card and return something else

That's what I did for Cows

[mellow sable]

Yeah that’s probably the play

[zealous glen]

function create_card(_type, area, legendary, _rarity, skip_materialize, soulable, forced_key, key_append)
    local has_cow = false

    if area == G.shop_jokers and _type == 'Joker' and forced_key == nil and key_append == 'sho' then
        for i = 1, #G.jokers.cards do
            if G.jokers.cards[i].ability.name == "Cow" then
                has_cow = true
                break
            end
        end
        if has_cow and pseudorandom(pseudoseed('cow_'..key_append)) < 1/12 then
            return create_card_post(_type, area, legendary, _rarity, skip_materialize, soulable, 'j_cow', key_append)
        end
    end

    return create_card_post(_type, area, legendary, _rarity, skip_materialize, soulable, forced_key, key_append)
end

[opal spade]

i think ive written the most comically overengineered patch for that thing but it will work even if the arrangement of stakes is somewhat stupid

[opal spade]

sent a pull request

[regal wolf]

the UI is criminal 💀

[mellow sable]

most cryptic error I've seen

oh my god it's because talisman somehow invaded this

[formal viper]

)_)

[mellow sable]

lmao it's because nativefs lib code uses math.max and I override it

hmmm

[edgy reef]

...what

HOW

[mellow sable]

talisman dev

[edgy reef]

Spaghetti UI moment

[mellow sable]

for some reason I think it's turning many more things into Bigs that shouldn't

and the UI doesn't like that

because for some reason I made math.max and math.min freak out

[narrow pollen]

i swear to god

some jokers have non-table extra values and it's such a pain to edit them

[zealous glen]

What do you think is the issue?

[crisp coral]

what are consumables' SET and SECONDARY_SET colors based on?

oh vsc is dumb and forces alpha to be at the front to show the correct color

[languid mirage]

flippin jimbo

[brisk pond]

if context.other_joker and self ~= context.other_joker and context.other_joker.ability.set == "Joker" then is there a shorter way for this?

if I remove the last part it scores for consumeables too

[crisp coral]

no not really

context.other_joker checks for nil
self ~= context.other_joker checks for other cards

[brisk pond]

ok thanks

[frosty dock]

show me how to flip a card like that irl

[languid mirage]

Oh ye

X is not flipped

I'll fix later

[crisp coral]

thanks spaghetti monster

[frosty dock]

Lmao

[maiden phoenix]

Flip the description too

[languid mirage]

Flip the entire screen

That would be funny

[maiden phoenix]

Wouldn't that mean the flipped card is no longer flipped? 🤔

[zealous glen]

Is this how you make a Joker that changes hand size?

Because my Joker worked normally in the first Blind then in the second Blind it set my hand size to 1

I don't explicitly change the hand size anywhere else, so either this is wrong or something else is creating issues, but I'm inclined to think it's not something else

[frosty dock]

you can just put h_size in config iirc, but it'll do the exact same thing

[zealous glen]

Do you know why it would be applying multiple times, though?

[languid mirage]

Probably because you already have h_size in config?

[zealous glen]

oh wait, maybe I know what's happening

It was a different Joker, possibly

yeah, I forgot to add a check to see if it granted extra hand size…

😅

What do you think of the UI for these cards? (Sidequestion: how can I change the text or size of my mod's badge?)

[languid mirage]

Two pair color is kinda ugly

[zealous glen]

I don't think I'll adjust them since they come directly from Homestuck, but there might be some alternatives

[languid mirage]

Small info text is kinda too small, Idk how it looks in game tho but I feel like not too readable

[zealous glen]

Good

hmmm, maybe i can increase it a bit

[iron sphinx]

just make the text gray

[zealous glen]

Better?

[zealous glen]

It felt weird to mix grey and colored text

[narrow pollen]

...okay, this is really fuckin irritating.

[zealous glen]

What is?

[narrow pollen]

so i had this idea for to the moon, where i was gonna make it give a very small amount of xMult every time you gained any amount of money

turns out, that even though the money is visually added during calculation, calculation is finalized before the money is added

[iron sphinx]

its in every(?) scaling joker

[zealous glen]

that's why Jokers use the dollar_buffer variable

[zealous glen]

hmmm let me try again

[narrow pollen]

ahhhh... so if i have the value increment when the dollar_buffer is greater than 0, it should work?

[zealous glen]

Look at how the game uses it

it'll end up something like dollars + (dollar_buffer or 0)

[narrow pollen]

oooooooooooooh

[solid salmon]

How do you collab with other mods?

[narrow pollen]

i see now

so what i need to do

is have the joker check dollar_buffer at every stage

and if it's greater than a variable that is set at the start

set that variable to the dollar_buffer and increment the counter

[zealous glen]

Idk what you're doing, but you can think that the true amount of dollars you have is dollars + dollar_buffer

[zealous glen]

How's this? I can still make the text bigger

[iron sphinx]

i think its too small, looks good tho

[narrow pollen]

this is what i wanted to do, tracking dollar_buffer worked perfectly!

might bump the increase up, idk yet

bc that's from playing a rough gem diamond flush

maybe make it also lose mult if money is spent

[brisk pond]

help, I added this piece into the Joker but it continues to come in the shop

[zealous glen]

I made it slightly more compact

[zealous glen]

I don't see that in the wiki, so I assume it doesn't exist

There are two flags to control if Jokers show up or not

See Cavendish or Stone Joker depending on what you want to do

[brisk pond]

I want to set it to always false

never to come up in the shop

[zealous glen]

Just do what Cavendish does

[wintry solar]

I think it just needs to return false

And rename to in_pool

[zealous glen]

Ah, I did find in_pool in the wiki

[brisk pond]

well, i already changed it for all the jokers to use a new pool_flag, so I'm not coming back

[frosty dock]

you can use pool flags where appropriate, but if you need to keep updating them or have more advanced logic, you should use in_pool

[brisk pond]

thanks for the info

it has to stay false for the whole game

[frosty dock]

in_pool = function() return false end,

[wintry solar]

Does the function not need self?

[languid mirage]

now flippin the right way

[frosty dock]

discarding unused arguments is fine

[zealous glen]

Notice anything different?

[frosty dock]

:o

[zealous glen]

:o

[languid mirage]

lvl 13 being white seems different

[zealous glen]

It is different!

No the colors loop, and I also changed the colors

I hope it doesn't get confusing with each Poker Hand having its own color…

[regal wolf]

in my experience with UI, its a big mistake to add lots of different colours

what im doing with Saturn is just creating a pallet from colours that already exist in the game.

but again, it depends if you want the UI to feel like and integrated or not

[zealous glen]

What's Saturn

[quasi kettle]

Where are the boss blinds stored? (I'm trying to see how some of the ante 8 boss blind effects work)

[hallow forge]

blind.lua

[quasi kettle]

thanks

[quasi kettle]

is there a way to act before the hand scores? I'm running into the issue that because I'm working in calculate the jokers calculate positions are locked in before the shuffle

[languid mirage]

You would probably need to find where context = before is being run from and add a lovely patch for extra calculate_joker call before jokers lock in

[solid salmon]

Huh

[frosty dock]

0629b huh

[lament fjord]

I'm investigating the crash issues that I'm experiencing with BU-CB, and the issue seems to be that... dofile doesn't exist? Is that a thing in Balatro's lua runtime environment?

[regal wolf]

you named the folder wrong

[lament fjord]

That's even after I rename the folder to what it expects it

[regal wolf]

i REALLY need to write a guide to how to install it.

the reason there isnt a guide is bc its in development

its technically not released yet

[regal wolf]

well thats what the dofile issue is

[lament fjord]

Before renaming the folder, I get "file not found" stuff like you'd expect, after renaming it I get the error I described

[regal wolf]

can you send a pic of the error?

[lament fjord]

https://gist.github.com/flakywanderer/20d137780ed6f65d2be320e42aa6d5b8

Okay so... what gives here

[regal wolf]

try verifying ur game files maybe i honestly dont know

if ur sure that the folder is named correctly, then i dont know what else to suggest.

the error is that it cant find the file to "do"

what version did you download

[solemn coral]

How do you get a playing card to display its xMult, even without an edition being applied to it?

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/common_events.lua"
pattern = '''if specific_vars.bonus_chips then'''
position = "before"
payload = '''
if card.ability.x_mult then
    #localize{type = 'variable', key = 'a_xmult', nodes = desc_nodes, vars = {card.ability.x_mult}}
    localize{type = 'other', key = 'card_extra_chips', nodes = desc_nodes, vars = {card.ability.x_mult}}
end
'''
match_indent = false

This code here "works", in that it displays a card's x_mult value as its extra chips value

[rough furnace]

IIRC the edition is one of those popup bubbles

It might be easier to add one of them

Otherwise you'll probably have to make a new localisation field to show it

[solemn coral]

I'd prefer it to display it in the regular bubble if possible. Theoretically there already exists a localization field for xmult, and I should just be able to use that one?

[rough furnace]

I'm not familiar with the localization system enough for that, sorry

[solemn coral]

Hopefully someone who is sees this request. In the meantime, I'll make an attempt at seeing if I can get the popup bubble to work

[sonic mortar]

a working flip shader/effect? 👀

[languid mirage]

yeah

was fixing the example in steamodded

[sonic mortar]

i need to get my hands on it

[hallow forge]

why's part of the sprite transparent?

[languid mirage]

?

where do you see transparency

[hallow forge]

nvm

[languid mirage]

https://github.com/stupxd/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/Mods/EditionExamples/assets/shaders/flipped.fs

it's pretty simple

[sonic mortar]

yoink

[languid mirage]

I just needed tons of time to figure out what all values mean

[hallow forge]

make a guide, would be ultra helpful

[sonic mortar]

i could also use a shader that flips the sprite right-to-left

[hallow forge]

imagine a misprint shader

[languid mirage]

I planned that

[hallow forge]

the guide or misprint shader

[languid mirage]

I updated the existing one https://github.com/stupxd/Steamodded/blob/main/example_mods/Mods/EditionExamples/assets/shaders/ionized.fs

[hallow forge]

nice ty

[sonic mortar]

i'm too lazy to learn shaders unfortunately but thanks so much

[languid mirage]

the misprint shader

it sounds like a fun project, I just need to think of how am I going to fill the gap

thats why I had an idea why flipping didnt work

I was checking the shader code and it didnt make sense

[hallow forge]

Misprint Misprint

[sonic mortar]

there's just one problem, if you apply this edition to most playing cards, it would hardly change much if anything, right?

[languid mirage]

playing cards? probably

maybe seal position

[sonic mortar]

which is why i want a version which flips the sprite horizontally instead of just rotating 180

[languid mirage]

that's kinda hard

how do you fill the gaps

or like

[hallow forge]

what gaps?

r u thinking of rotation?

[languid mirage]

oh yea

uhm

you can remove newY part

and replace it with texture_coords.y

that should only flip horizontally

[sonic mortar]

i'll try

[languid mirage]

this was the first iteration, without flipping X
#💻・modding-dev message

which might also work for you

for that you remove newX and replace it with texture_coords.x

[zealous glen]

I'm not sure you can do it without further modifications

An easy Blind concept. It feels a bit too easy to be challenging, maybe it needs an extra oomph

The Spin
First hand is discarded face down

That said, with 4 hands and 3 discards, you can dig through all but the last card of your deck… except who knows if the cards you want are there or not 🤔

Actually, it should be all but the bottom 6 since the last hand… is the last hand

What do you think?

[hallow forge]

efficiare or whatever it’s called:

[zealous glen]

what

[hallow forge]

Cryptid’s joker which makes you draw the whole deck

Absolutely evil on this blind

[zealous glen]

Ahh

[stray warren]

Turns into a regular Joker

[lament fjord]

Don't think so, given that inserting this bit of code makes it work:

function dofile (filename)
  local nativefs = require("nativefs")
  local f = nativefs.load(filename)
  return f()
end -- dofile

[sly forge]

recently discovered another math bug with UI, spacing on scaled text is wrong.
the second Black badge is supposed to be shrunk to 1/4 the width of the Common badge but the spaces between the letters have not been shrunk with the text

hey are most people mostly ignoring UI stuff? I could go correct all the UI math with what I've learned

[crisp coral]

ui too convoluted 😔

[languid mirage]

That's a slightly harder the house, which I think is fine

[wintry solar]

Oh snap someone updated all my old early shader code when I was learning how it works and then got sidetracked

[languid mirage]

Was figuring it out so thought might as well

[wintry solar]

Yeah they’re not too bad once you understand how they work

I’ll take a look over your changes later today

[languid mirage]

It's mostly cleanup, I tested all of them to make sure nothing broke

[surreal marsh]

every hand is first hand joker:

[languid mirage]

[zealous glen]

I think it’s slightly easier than the House

[zealous glen]

Unless it calls set_blind again I think it doesn’t loop

[zealous glen]

As Myst said, UI is quite convoluted even if I can find things I’d like to change or tweak

[olive shoal]

myki card

not sure how i feel about those background line things

[zealous glen]

They look interesting but the inconsistency width makes them look a bit worse

Not the width of different lines, the width of individual lines

[regal wolf]

Well idk what’s wrong with your copy, but it works for everyone else

[languid mirage]

The house can be cheesed for the most part, especially if u do flushes

This one is a toss of a coin if you auto discard useless cards or useful cards

[zealous glen]

I mean, unless you need 5 specific cards to win, I think this is less luck-reliant since you can dig deeper for face-up cards

[languid mirage]

Dig deeper is kind of a weird way to put it, since whatever you might be looking for could've been discarded

So you dig the same amount, technically

[lament fjord]

If it helps, my setup involves a bunch of other mods

[wooden nexus]

Thought: what's stopping me from looking in the deck to see which ones were discarded?

[regal wolf]

Possibly

What mod are you trying to install again???

[frosty dock]

Numbers may be lower due to the 8 cards drawn face down

[wooden nexus]

Hm?

That doesn't answer my question lol

[frosty dock]

the game doesn't tell you what discarded face-down cards were

[shell timber]

pareidolia + plant exists

[hallow forge]

you can still win with that

you can't win if you have no cards

[wooden nexus]

i see

[zealous glen]

Haven’t you played against The House, the Wheel, etc.? 🤔 ;P

[wooden nexus]

I haven't played Balatro properly in months

so i legit don't remember

[zealous glen]

I see

[lament fjord]

BU-CB

My mods include Steamodded (which seems to be a mod in and of its own right), Bunco, SDM_0's mods, Brainstorm, MoreFluff, and others that I'm probably forgetting about

[regal wolf]

honestly i dont know what the issue is, i imagine it could be compatability. BU-CB is technically designed for drSpectred, so the compatibility is not tested.

[mellow sable]

this is such a goofy way to do what I want but hopefully it works

[sage nacelle]

Hey I just gotta ask but have secret modded hands been made that use Haumea or Makemake for their planets

[mellow sable]

it works haha

[sage nacelle]

I know that mods which add a 5th and 6th suit include a hand called a "Spectrum" but I haven't used those and do not know what their planet is

[regal wolf]

break_infinity

math is buzz lightyear

[mellow sable]

We’re past break_infinity already

[regal wolf]

to break_infinity and beyond.

[mellow sable]

Mathguy ported OmegaNum so we’re already at e10##1000

[regal wolf]

to break_infinity and beyond beyond.

[languid quiver]

hey everyone! how would i go about implementing this deck?
#1258589987142635540 message

[mellow sable]

for the blinds, maybe write a lovely patch when they're created that multiplies their base value
other values are already used in game win_ante for ante iirc

[languid quiver]

ahh okay

tyty

.....wait how do i write a lovely patch-

[gilded narwhal]

First do you know what lovely patches actually do

[languid quiver]

api that bandages new code and assets and stuff onto a love2d game?

[gilded narwhal]

Mhm

[languid quiver]

ive never written one before though. i know how to code in lua though, just not sure exactly on the process of patching

[gilded narwhal]

This is the simplest example I could find

[languid quiver]

ohhh

hmmm interesting

[regal wolf]

Does it have to be a deck?

Nvm

Was reading one thing

If u wanna add custom challenges have a look at BU-CB-DEV, it’s a mod I made for balatro university. It’s got a custom challenge api.

[languid quiver]

oooooh

where can i get my hands on this?

[regal wolf]

If you don’t know how to create mods it might be good to do

[languid quiver]

oh i found it

[regal wolf]

https://github.com/OceanRamen/BU-CB-DEV

[languid quiver]

tyty

[regal wolf]

Take a look at the wiki

It will explain a bit about creating a challenge.

[languid quiver]

alrighty

[mellow sable]

could also look at steamodded api, which is used in eg. cryptid

[gilded narwhal]

You guys think I can come up with effects for all of them

[hallow forge]

eventually

[gilded narwhal]

Could I come up with effects for all 142 cookies

[hallow forge]

eventually

[gilded narwhal]

Yup

[crisp elbow]

inb4 stock market joker that works like the minigame

[olive shoal]

flushmaxxing

[solemn coral]

Oh that looks like a fun card

Temporary cards are such a cool design space and I'm glad more people are messing around with those ideas

Is this mod out yet? Definitely want to play with that card if it is

[olive shoal]

no sorry, this is like the second card ive made for it lol

[solemn coral]

Excited to see what further progress you make on it, then!

Love the art too - very cartoony Joker font and it looks good in pixel art

[olive shoal]

ty ty!

[gilded narwhal]

This is gonna be pretty tricky to implement

I imagine it's gonna involve a lot of lovely

[crisp coral]

it's pretty much impossible to have mod compat

[gilded narwhal]

I just have to manually program in what happens for every single modded spectral that's all!

Question does lovely work with other mods

Like could I change the code of a different mod

[royal ether]

considering almost every mod uses lovely, yes

oh

uh depends

you can change their lovely patches but i dont think you can directly change their lua file

[gilded narwhal]

Interesting

[surreal marsh]

block next G.hand:change_size and Card:start_dissolve maybe 🤔

[gilded narwhal]

Wait why

[surreal marsh]

because vanilla downsides are mainly reduce hand size and destroy all jokers

[placid frigate]

hey, i'm starting to work on a Joker mod but where do I start? i know their is a "templete" to follower for making the .lau file but how do i start?

[surreal marsh]

this is just my thought maybe dealing with each spectral card is better

[gilded narwhal]

Ahhhh that's clever

I think just altering each spectral card is easier

Because I'm bad at this 😭

I'll do it later

[rough furnace]

https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector?tab=readme-ov-file#patches

anyways its programming time

[mellow sable]

Cryptid compat
(there's a joker which does this for all spectrals planned, and then a system to do it for every item in the game for one custom consumable)

[gilded narwhal]

Damn

I guess I'm not allowed to make it :(

[mellow sable]

no you can make it

lol

[gilded narwhal]

I know I was joking lmao

[placid frigate]

what is a lovely patch?

[slow ocean]

hows smods doing folks

[languid mirage]

looking through source of other people's mods is a good place to start

[placid frigate]

so go though their mods/ .lua files and learn that way?

[languid mirage]

yes

also looking through the game's source code

for the context stuff

There's also #1247703015222149120

[placid frigate]

is this for adding in Joker effects like destroy cards and add x multiplier?

[languid mirage]

just look through other jokers code first

[placid frigate]

ok thank you

where would i find the jokers file in the game's source code?

[languid mirage]

Most of them are in card. lua, function calculate_jokers