Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[severe mesa]

can probably beat my pb by several minutes if I actually tried but most of it is just repetitive action

[strange oxide]

chat are there any mac users here?

[weak burrow]

big number goes

[clear hare]

I saw Mac screenshots of someone running Cryptid

[strange oxide]

i was looking for someone to test something in steamodded

[clear hare]

I mean I could always just put a BigNum inside a BigNum to raise the limit to eee308 (outside the mod’s scoring range rn)

[strange oxide]

basically love.event.quit('restart') isn't enough for lovely mods, since I need the process to be reset, and not just the main loop

so launching the game on steam and quitting the current process works fine for non-mac, but on Mac you can't play with lovely through steam

so I have something else in place for Mac, and I need to know whether it works or not

[dusty plover]

yes. do this.

MORE e's

i love the letter e

[cold sandal]

1e308 e's

[grim tiger]

e joker that adds 1 e to your score when

[lime inlet]

isn't that 10 tetrated to e308

[cold sandal]

Yeah i think so

[lime inlet]

sell based exotics are kinda busted

since you can sell blueprint or brainstorm for the same effect

[cold sandal]

And canvas

[lime inlet]

infinite duping with error is fun

[cold sandal]

Vendere+Clone Machine+Universum+Canvas+Orbital Tag

[lime inlet]

• Repetere since double tags retrigger

[cold sandal]

Double tags would be changed to quintuple tags because of Clone Machine

[lime inlet]

which makes repetere even better

repetere and rescribere are gonna break this game the hardest

[mental tiger]

Ok what about a joker that gives the tag effect even when not skipping

[cold sandal]

Thats a voucher

134 - > 136

[summer cargo]

honestly i think we should (with permission) steal archibald (sdm0's stuff) current effect and turn it into an exotic

[mental tiger]

Oh it is

[summer cargo]

create a negative copy of jokers when you obtain them

[lime inlet]

so funny thing

[summer cargo]

since i imagine the actual legendary will be rebalanced to be not, uh... blatantly broken

[lime inlet]

we already have perkeo but with jokers in the actual mod rn

[summer cargo]

perkeo but with jokers is similar but distinctly different

that only duplicates jokers you already have, archibald duplicates incoming jokers

[lime inlet]

i just realized we have 2+ jokers that duplicate owned jokers and are broken

error is straight up busted

hell there's an infinite duping glitch rn

[jagged garden]

Ouch

Recently it has been nerfed so that copies were perishable ones btw

[grim tiger]

damn...

[cold sandal]

Heres something that surely won't be added anytime soon (unless we wild)

Superscalaris {Exotic}:
Scaling Jokers scale octically

I think thats the term

[strange oxide]

so just double scale's effect stacked thrice?

[cold sandal]

Yeah basically

iirc Double Scale doesn't stack atm

[strange oxide]

i mean there needs to be superexponential scaling for the real big numbers anyway

[strange oxide]

yeah it doesn't

[cold sandal]

Scaling Jokers scale Exponentially + Exponentia

[strange oxide]

exponential scaling in terms of double E notation is log scaling

[cold sandal]

Can't wait for x^^x scaling

[oak herald]

i smell the fire already

[cold sandal]

"Scaling Jokers become even more overpowered"

[brave ibex]

I don't think it can exist without a rebalance of the entire mod

[soft night]

"Scaling Jokers eviscerate the entire mod's balance"

[brave ibex]

exoctic+ moment

[soft night]

Mythical moment

[strange oxide]

who cares about balance

just make ante scaling absurd

[cold sandal]

Scaling Jokers have x^^x scaling but antes scale exponentially

[strange oxide]

not the required blind score, the literal antes

when you clear a boss blind, ante gets doubled

[severe mesa]

we need a deck/voucher for taking more than one option from packs

especially to contribute to antimatter deck

[summer cargo]

exponentia doesn't seem to trigger off of baseball card?

[vestal seal]

i was about to say that exponentia is exotic not uncommon then i used my brain

[summer cargo]

like this should be 7 increases since there's 7 instances of xmult here but it only triggers off of hologram's inbuilt xmult

[vestal seal]

you can blueprint exponentia btw

[vestal seal]

it works it just doesnt say it does

(i'm 90% sure)

[clear hare]

neat

[summer cargo]

ah now things are getting good

[umbral dagger]

I might be making a few too many consumable copies

[clear hare]

perkeo gaming

[umbral dagger]

I'd probably still be going if I actually moved them around for most canvas procs

I made like almost 1800 copies of cryptids in one shop

[summer cargo]

how's the framerate

[teal plover]

it's probably dying

[umbral dagger]

yeah uh

the blinds just did not load

I had to reload the run

[teal plover]

that's the joy of stretching how far you can go with unbalanced mods

but it'd be really nice if cards could be compressed into one stack to save framerate and performance

[clear hare]

that feels rly hard to implement though

maybe a future idea though for sure

[empty fern]

mf juice_up

[summer cargo]

honestly i think just having x10/x100/x1000/etc variants would probably work and be a bit easier

[clear hare]

...update Talisman

[summer cargo]

it'd probably screw with perkeo rng a bit but

[clear hare]

just use weighted RNG

[empty fern]

ahh
havent been here for a bit lol

[summer cargo]

since i think by the time you have enough consumables to need stacked variants, you don't really care about the granularity of using them and don't care if you have to use them in multiples of 100 or whatever

[umbral dagger]

can't wait to pull up to the poker table with my booster pack of 100 cryptids to drop on a steel king

[teal plover]

plus, it helps break the equilibrium deck even more

[umbral dagger]

but yeah the game only really starts dying when you make hundreds upon hundreds of copies so by that point in a run its probably not a big deal to stack them by that much

[grim tiger]

discount dna

[summer cargo]

Yeah the assumption is that they'd be "hidden" so you can't get them through DoE or dirtectly duplicate them through perkeo

since they are meant to just be internal things

[empty fern]

what parts of the file do u need?

[clear hare]

just replace the Talisman folder with the newest release

[empty fern]

i did but it crashed

[clear hare]

still crashed?

can you send the crash message

[empty fern]

on launch now

[clear hare]

if it's a SAVED_GAME error delete "save.jkr" in your profile folder

[teal plover]

i can probably make a few assets for bulk planet cards

[clear hare]

oh

you have a nested installation

Install to Mods/Talisman not Mods/Talisman/Talisman

[empty fern]

it is?

[clear hare]

rename the folder to "Talisman"

[empty fern]

dude i have NO idea how modding works 😭

[vestal seal]

it's just renaming the folder

[summer cargo]

am i going mad or does a perishable double scale just not function at all

even when it's not debuffed

no it might just not work with exponentia. w/e

[teal plover]

let me give it a try myself

[summer cargo]

there should be plenty of double scaling going on here

[vestal seal]

yeah i had that exact problem earlier. but it seemed to work again once the scaling joker was copied. super weird

[grim tiger]

oh was it not working with pot of jokes a bug? i thought it was just a balance decision i didn't like

[teal plover]

seems to only add +^0.01 each time, can confirm

[grim tiger]

though i haven't updated all my stuff recently so prob not a good bug report anyway

[vestal seal]

i need to be playing more video games but i'm kinda burnt out rn

so idk what to do

[grim tiger]

need to?

[vestal seal]

yeah i have stuff on my backlog

and things i need to finish

like, i havent even beat asphodel in hades yet

[grim tiger]

1 sec continue in #🃏・off-topic

[vestal seal]

yeah fair

[summer cargo]

ok selling error is good, good to know

[teal plover]

after a random number of rounds, you sell it to duplicate every other joker (unless if it's also an ERROR)
the main thing of course being that you never know exactly how many... 👀

[summer cargo]

yeah archibald being there exacerbated it since he made a negative copy of each incoming joker

...ah. guess that's my joker loadout locked in

[teal plover]

yeah, it doesn't make them negative so it overflows

[summer cargo]

sdm_0 legendary is a bit bugged and causes your joker cap to go down by 2 if selling a negative copy as well which doesn't help

[teal plover]

oof

[summer cargo]

i think it will be fine

[teal plover]

i've hit infinity before, it's not difficult to do

this bignumber system just can't take the heat of how broken this mod can get

[oak herald]

not sure what im missing here

[dim sorrel]

this is awesome actually

[brave ibex]

maybe lovely? I don't see it there (unless it's not supposed to be there?)

[brave ibex]

alright, nice work 👍

I need to fix that sprite lol

Oh dang I need to fix a few sprites

[vestal seal]

we should add an exotic that does nothing for balance reasons

"nihil"

[brave ibex]

Trollface

[soft night]

do we like this for Triplet Rhythm artwork

[brave ibex]

k fixed all these, thankfully they have not been implemented yet

[soft night]

is that a booster pack joker lmao

[brave ibex]

looks good, no 2p white border though

[brave ibex]

yeah xd

took about 3 hours to get it right

[soft night]

hecc

could probably be a black border in this case

[brave ibex]

I can see it

[soft night]

'ere we go

[brave ibex]

epic

[true harness]

that's the correct time signature

[severe mesa]

wraith W!?

i am going to combust

[oak herald]

m

[soft night]

that is actually my natural time signature (as in the time signature i brainstorm beats to)

[dusty plover]

brainstorming beats in 7/4 is wild

i cant imagine doing anything other than 3 or 4/4

[soft night]

suddenly remembering that one insane beat i made that went from 7/4 to 9/4 to 10/8

[scenic pumice]

pure black 👎👎👎👎

[lime inlet]

fun fact selling a copy joker that copies error makes an infinite duping bug

[severe mesa]

actual suggestion: we need a retrigger formula/calculator for having several canvas/bp, bp/bs, and trigger cards

[lime inlet]

I want a Joker that permabans any Jokers to its left

actually fuck it all items are in danger

[clear hare]

7/4 is a nice reference

[clear hare]

you have nested folders in your installation (like Mods/Talisman/Talisman)

[soft night]

yeee cuz balatro's song is in 7/4

[lime inlet]

someone make an effect of Est Tibi(no you)

hold up gotta verify that name

ahh

[clear hare]

isn't Est Tibi "is to you"

[lime inlet]

google translate is weird honestly

but that's my only "reliable" source

i usually translate back and forth a bit

[clear hare]

closest you could probably get is "Non Tu", but translated more literally it means "not you"

[lime inlet]

well i mean Vetiti could be the name for that banning idea

[severe mesa]

diet cola shenanigans‼️

[lime inlet]

but that means forbidden so close enough

The Lag (Boss Blind idea)
Set fps to current Hands

[cold sandal]

Im gonna win

I beat ante 1

after like 5 attempts

Not sure about this one

[severe mesa]

it's at e1600 rn (very slow)

[clear hare]

ante 3 gaming

[severe mesa]

fast go faster

[lime inlet]

what other mods are 1.0 rn

[severe mesa]

exponentia went from ~13k to 113.27m this hand... that's gonna take a hot while

[lime inlet]

Abiit in Aeternum
When a card adjacent to this Joker is sold, that Joker is banned from this run until this Joker is sold

[severe mesa]

bruh math is gonna release full cryptid 1.0 before this hand is done 😭

it's on e2800 with an ungodly number of iterum rt's

[clear hare]

MystBlinds, SDM_0's Stuff

[lime inlet]

k

[cold sandal]

Sapphire stake doesn't seem to work properly

I'm only losing like $4 with $500

[clear hare]

lmao

[cold sandal]

Ok wait it might just be an Antimatter deck thing

or Misprint

Cause it's working fine on Blank Deck

[severe mesa]

status update 2 - e6300 rn. probably still on first card but idk since I have fast scoring on

(it's not very fast)

[brave ibex]

we still have Answer as a unused spectral, maybe we can change the name if something/come up with a new effect for it 🤔

[severe mesa]

status update 3 - it said e10.5k but I windowed out and back and now it's displaying infinity (assuming e-naneinf)

I think it finally finished the moment I typed that actually 🪑

status update 4...

[cold sandal]

Idea for Answer:
Set next blind requirement to 0, Next blind can't be skipped.

[grim tiger]

common perkeo insta-win combo, truly unavoidable

[cold sandal]

Oh right

I forgot about Perkeo

Debuffs Perkeo if held

Make it debuff Perkeo if held

[grim tiger]

perkeo doesn't matter he insta-wins runs anyway

without that spectral

[vestal seal]

theres a bunco 1.0 port if you download source code

[grim tiger]

does it work fully with all the content bunco had in the 0.9.8 version?

[mental tiger]

mmmm i love getting eeinf on the ante 3 boss

[gray elm]

I have a question, why did the cryptic stake says "applies the x stake" while vanilla just says"applies all the previous stake"?

[clear hare]

other mod compatibility; it's how I implemented Stake API

[scenic pumice]

could probably make it say "applies all previous stakes from cryptid" instead

*except for the lowest stake the mod adds, of course

that would probably say vanilla stakes instead of cryptid stakes

[thin sigil]

Will there be Unlock requirements for jokers
i imagine not though

[cold sandal]

I might make a Cryptid Exotic Tier List tomorrow

One of the tiers will literally just be "Worse than Canvas"

[thin sigil]

you're hurting canvas's feelings :(

[cold sandal]

Canvas is better than some Exotics

Thats what that tier is for

Example of what would go in that tier:
Augmen

[jagged garden]

Would have been nice if it was reported to me, tho I'm not exactly able to reproduce it, can you explain how you do it?

[summer cargo]

it specifically seems to be a problem with archibald and sdm_0 combined

1. have archibald (1/5 jokers)
2. obtain sdm_0 (3/7)
   3a) sell the Positive copy of sdm_0 (2/6) OR
   3b) sell the Negative copy of sdm_0 (2/5)
3. sell the remaining copy of sdm_0 (1/4??)

[jagged garden]

Ok thanks I'll give it a look

[strange oxide]

ah yes

immolate's desc text is off

destroyed my entire hand and almost softlocked me

[jagged garden]

Pro tip: Do not use multiple Archibald + M

[empty fern]

i used too many ectoplasms..

[strange oxide]

lmao

[empty fern]

btw has anyone got a file i can nopy with the misprint deck in it

[strange oxide]

oh no

it froze on me

[jagged garden]

I'm destroying my next 100 runs cards with this one

[umbral dagger]

new challenge, playing Balatro with no cards

[empty fern]

does anyone have a kist of compatible mods with steamodded 1.0?

[grim tiger]

cryptid, sdm_0's stuff, bunco source code version, texture mods if you change just a bit of code, morespeeds,score preview i think, mystblinds

the pinned message

better mouse and gamepad also still works

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1228825966940393483

i wouldn't release any ports without permission though if you're planning on doing that

sounds good

[severe mesa]

How many will it generate?

[strange oxide]

too many

[severe mesa]

It took ~13 seconds to generate all the tags

And I got another cola just in case

status update 5 - too many double tags, fps around 20

where on EARTH is that negative tag...

[empty fern]

easiest infinity ive ever gotten lmao

fuckin love invis joker

[clear hare]

I really should fix this bug but it's so funny

same with dscriptions lying to you

it's misprint deck for a reason

[lime inlet]

you should probably fix it for death since it is kinda useless in most if not all cases

or you could program it so death works with decimals

[subtle nova]

Tbh you should randomize the amount of cards you can select

The game is actually fine if it's above 5

[clear hare]

make it 1

[subtle nova]

High card build

[clear hare]

the thing that's dumb about consumables is they save their attributes globally

[lime inlet]

someone make a deck where you can pick infinite cards

[clear hare]

so if I try to modify how many cards Hanged Man destroys it just changes permanently

[subtle nova]

Oh also you can change the number of cards you can select in the other areas too

I mean that sounds fair

Tbh I'm surprised most jokers don't work that way

[clear hare]

I cached the old value to mitigate this bug but it appears I screwed something up with that

[lime inlet]

oh yea

was it intentional for misprint to be completely random

like it'd change even if you were on the same seed

[clear hare]

no

same seed + actions should lead to the same values

[lime inlet]

well i only did antimatter so

might be an antimatter thing again

[clear hare]

I don't divide it up by source like other things in Balatro so that will change things

[clear hare]

ok I think I fixed the weirdness

now let's make a deck where you can select as many cards as you want

as well as all cards are scoring (like Splash)

because when I used a demo bug everything just turned into High Card

[strange oxide]

Given the same mods, too

[strange oxide]

vanilla code explicitly excludes hand with more than 5 cards

[clear hare]

progress

now we just need to be able to play the hand

[weak burrow]

100 card hand bout to go crazy

But the problem would be selecting all of the cards

Is a button or something to select all cards something that can even be done?

[raven wedge]

the bettermouseandgamepad in question:

[weak burrow]

The whatnow

[clear hare]

perfect

also I don't need to make all cards scoring if the scoring works fine

[jagged garden]

Send this to scare the common balatro player

[clear hare]

let me put this in general

[jagged garden]

Perfect

[clear hare]

oh wait that's not allowed

modding-chat then

[jagged garden]

Oh

I mean they'll know

but whatev

[raven wedge]

nothing groundbreaking really

[clear hare]

post it on reddit lmao

[raven wedge]

lmao

free karma

[strange oxide]

lol

what will a 23456789 straight score like?

[weak burrow]

This would need extra hand types to truly get free karma

[clear hare]

twelve of a flush

[weak burrow]

Flush 8

[strange oxide]

flushest 20

[weak burrow]

Average balatro mod moment

[strange oxide]

truly one of the moments of all time

[native lotus]

idk if this like, would be possible, but could the reverse deck have a look of a random card in the deck?

so it wouldn't show like, the deck side, but one of like the X cards that are in the deck

also the blank deck

[grim tiger]

gaming

[lime inlet]

misread that as my email for sec

[grim tiger]

[e-mail]

[lime inlet]

semi close

probably shouldn't say my email tho

cause rulse

i have an incredibly painful boss blind idea real quick

Unnamed
Set handsize to 15, can no longer draw cards

[soft night]

Light Up the Night art (ik it's still only in the concept sheet but i wanted to make the art just because)

effect

[raven wedge]

for the blinds' arts, is it intentional that the shine is replacing the blind icon?

because it looks. extremely jarring

[summer cargo]

i find it really funny when talisman hiccups and you get to see your number go up frame by frame

[grim tiger]

probably not

[raven wedge]

as a blindomancer, :agony:

[grim tiger]

as someone with the balatro aseprite extension, :agony:

[brave ibex]

Yes

I think

I think the game cycles through all of them every few frames so it looks smoother than it seems

[jagged garden]

This can be so annoying tho lol

[raven wedge]

the shine overlays the icon

[lime inlet]

funnier part is if you cut the mult the chips look like they're increasing normally

[raven wedge]

it does not replace the icon

[summer cargo]

i mean yeah it would take literally like ten minutes to resolve as the hand scores like e10000

i said funny, not good

[brave ibex]

I thought assumed they were just differently coloured pixels but idrk 🤷

[lime inlet]

antimatter becomes even more busted once again

[grim tiger]

me when

[lime inlet]

my brain couldn't comprehend what i was looking at for a sec

[raven wedge]

taking one of my blinds as an example

[brave ibex]

Yeah I have no idea how to do that unfortunately

Maybe i’ll figure it out later

[grim tiger]

i can do it for you if you want

1 button

[raven wedge]

the extension is actually ever so slightly incorrect

[grim tiger]

tell that to the people who made it!!!! they will fix it!!!

[brave ibex]

Id rather figure it out myself for possible future blinds

[raven wedge]

do you have aseprite? i can send you my template

[brave ibex]

Green club:
Randomize ranks of all cards held in hand on play

[brave ibex]

Nope

[raven wedge]

rip

[lime inlet]

splash deck will overtake mime baron strat trust

[raven wedge]

a majority of cryptid stuff is better than mime baron

[lime inlet]

lol

[grim tiger]

can you send me it? i wanna test something

[lime inlet]

Inconsistent Time Travel
Sell this card for -10 to +10 antes

[soft night]

i felt like making another to follow up the ultrakill reference so i did

...maybe another 3 retrigger

isnt

[raven wedge]

worse than pareidolia

and that is an uncommon

[soft night]

yeah lemme cook more

[raven wedge]

wait not parei

the other one

[soft night]

hack yeah

hmm

[raven wedge]

sock and buskin'?

and hack yeah

[soft night]

is that too much now

i want this one to be a retrigger to further the reference

[subtle nova]

retrigger all played 3's 7 times

[soft night]

GOD NO

i'm making these with 7s synergy in mind

because 7s have nothing

[grim tiger]

i love the horrible chain of events thunk set in motion by making 7s bad

so many mods have 7 synergies now that they outnumber everything else if you have multiple mods on

[soft night]

we're built different

[soft night]

is this effect better now btw

[oak herald]

wee joker

[lime inlet]

someone make a joker based on the 7 8 9 joke

[lime inlet]

i dare you to sell a blueprint that's next to error

[soft night]

Predator

• If a 7 and a 9 are in the same played hand, the 7 gives x3 Mult when scored and the 9 is destroyed after scoring.

[severe mesa]

does this actually work?

[lime inlet]

yea pretty funny

[teal plover]

uhm, was trying to record something pretty hilarious, and i did, but i also just caught a bug lol

[clear hare]

lol

[teal plover]

the bug will be near the end of the video, but here's the whole thing

bug timestamp : 0:50

[lime inlet]

error at its finest

[clear hare]

you know something funny?

I feel like that might be a vanilla bug

[lime inlet]

:)

[teal plover]

you think so?

[strange oxide]

seems like vanilla to me

[teal plover]

i can still select the cards lol

[clear hare]

iirc during the first naneinfs someone noticed that

[lime inlet]

i have 515 exponentias

[clear hare]

alr let me quickly ctrl f 500 in the game code

[empty fern]

happens when i press play

[teal plover]

much to my disappointment i cannot use card-changing tarots within the shop with this bug

sad

[clear hare]

hmmmmmm

[teal plover]

oh i see

that does make sense because my deck is currently at 500 / 583

[lime inlet]

"I can take it"
the it in question:

[strange oxide]

where xmult

[lime inlet]

poly

[strange oxide]

double scale tho

[empty fern]

any way i can fix?

[clear hare]

I think this is on me to fix

[strange oxide]

0523a is outdated, but this looks like a talisman issue

[clear hare]

Talisman

also when you have a long straight all the cards score

which is nice

[teal plover]

i wanna try that 👀

[lime inlet]

im gonna go to dodgeball soon(again) but in the meantime im gonna look at random bits of code and still not understand

[clear hare]

this wild 5 turns this into a flush house lol

wait that's actually so cool

straight house when

[strange oxide]

yeah it greedily takes any extra cards it finds - notably the vanilla version just spits out {} if you play more than 5 cards

[clear hare]

wait this happens without the 5 scoring

lmao

[lime inlet]

i just made balatro into a tiny window lmao

w perspective

[strange oxide]

flush house just takes the house part and doesn't combine hands iirc

same with flush five, it just takes the 5oak

[empty fern]

6, 7, 8, 9 and 10s of kinds when?

[strange oxide]

have fun coming up with names for all the different fuller houses

[lime inlet]

balatro but

[strange oxide]

balatro inside balatro when

[empty fern]

full house, fuller house, fuller houser, fullest house, fullest houser, fullest housest

[lime inlet]

i love getting <> money

[clear hare]

also this works properly now

[teal plover]

yesss

[strange oxide]

i want the trolling

[teal plover]

funnily enough me opening an arcana pack and skipping it will return everything back to the deck, including the bugged cards

[strange oxide]

it should still just convert the left card into the right card

[empty fern]

i mean, DX consumables does this already but on a smaller scale
cant wait to convert 10 cards at a time

[strange oxide]

btw you can be softlocked if immolate destroys all your cards in a spectral pack and nothing else is usable, fortunately nothing savescumming can't fix

[clear hare]

hmm

antimatter deck with this new buff is fun

[empty fern]

cant wait to play my whole hand

so is this extra selection going to be a misprint deck upside, then being able to apply it to anti, or available for every deck?

[lime inlet]

ummm

[empty fern]

hmm...

[lime inlet]

bro what

[strange oxide]

LMAO

me with my 200 card cryptid:

[lime inlet]

most net negative thing i have ever seen

[empty fern]

i mean, thats only $8 more than the original im pretty sure..

and the same hand size methinks?

[clear hare]

once this saved me when a bugged boss blind gave me like 3 hand size permanently

[brave ibex]

Blueprint compat moment?

[clear hare]

hmm

[weak burrow]

Per card xmult scaling

Stonks

[clear hare]

oh yeah now we also need art for Infinite Deck (as I called it)

hmmm

[strange oxide]

oh damn I'm barely short

41 cents

33, actually - that popcorn sells for $2

💀

[clear hare]

crash on trying to spawn an epic joker in a buffoon pack

[lime inlet]

woeifjewoifjewoifjwewweoifweofjsdlkjasdlfawefpw;eidoh asfhkskhdfbjkfhjkl

[jagged garden]

Ouija Board is so useless on antimatter deck lol

It's heavily rng reliant

[summer cargo]

i may have made a mistake

[jagged garden]

lol

[summer cargo]

I think most things are useless on antimatter deck with how powerful it is at base

[jagged garden]

True

[lime inlet]

wtf

bro

[summer cargo]

👍

[clear hare]

I wonder what playing my entire deck will give me

[lime inlet]

pretty good for round 4 ngl

math did u patch the infinite error bug

[jagged garden]

a crash 😏

[lime inlet]

hilarious

instantaneous crash

sad

[jagged garden]

I'm winning with those but still, ouch

[lime inlet]

round 6 Inf

who would've thought getting speculo and error in the first round was helpful

[clear hare]

it's blueprint incompatible now

for real

I'm pretty sure this is ante 12 round 22 naneinf

every card is an ace of hearts, most are gold seal too

I gained 7,000 dollars lol

[lime inlet]

this was easier than I thought

and i thought it was gonna be easy

i completely forgot infinite deck existed

[subtle nova]

Oh oops did I forget to remove that.

[clear hare]

xd

I’ll remove it next commit (or not?)

[summer cargo]

great, that's. that's great.

[subtle nova]

Earlier I needed a hi dad as well

[lime inlet]

The non Exotic that's better than some Exotics

[summer cargo]

Well it's completely useless if it's pinned...

[lime inlet]

nah trust

[subtle nova]

I mean if you have something else pinnned to the left of it

[clear hare]

Blueprint/Brainstorm; the non-legendaries that are better than some legendaries

[lime inlet]

you can probably combine alot of community challenges

with Jokerless on antimatter

[clear hare]

Purchaseless Jokerless Antimatter

[lime inlet]

High card only

Fullskip

[strange oxide]

Chicot: the legendary that unfolds its true power when there's more than one of it

[lime inlet]

Perkeo: the game busting legendary

[severe mesa]

Thanks for the video idea

have we figured out if bp/bs copy error?

[brave ibex]

Yeah it’s no longer bp compat

[severe mesa]

"no longer" implying it was before?

[lime inlet]

yea i've done it on multiple occasions pretty fun

#1219749193204371456 message

this

[severe mesa]

alr so I don't have the update with random numbers, is it compatible in that version

[lime inlet]

the update that breaks the bug is the infinite deck update so random number is still fine

[severe mesa]

okay then, I'm boutta release like 10 more status updates today

[clear hare]

Can’t wait to see a streamer try this mod, it’s so wild

[lime inlet]

this mod blind is crazy

[vestal seal]

wait we really need murph to get on cryptid

[clear hare]

@chrome comet you just got dared to try out Cryptid

[severe mesa]

50 fps → 5 fps fr

[lime inlet]

picking infinite cards is surprisingly busted(no duh)

[chrome comet]

???

[jagged garden]

Oh the luck, got a foil tag trigger on an exotic joker 😅 (spoilers cuz murphy's here)

[dusty plover]

murphy playing this mod would go crazy

[waxen oxide]

welp, new update so gunna try out the infinite deck lmao

Selecting 3 pair only counts as pair sadge

[soft night]

had a stupid jonkler idea, spoilered for murphy's sake just in case it becomes real

||Joker Wielding a Magic Sword Wielding a Joker
The instance of additive Mult that's triggered right before XMult instead gets added to the XMult's multiplier for this hand.||

[raven wedge]

murphy jumpscare

[lime inlet]

murphy should def play this mod completely blind

should we recommend starting with antimatter

[cold sandal]

Very Fair Deck

[soft night]

i did and it kinda ruined the fun for me

so no

start with red or blue

then ghost

[cold sandal]

DoE would be the best to see all the new stuff

[soft night]

then one of the new decks

that should probably be later on

[brave ibex]

Did a mult joker since mult cards do't have a joker

[clear hare]

||Permanently gains +1 Mult when a Mult card is scored||

(Or +2?)

[waxen oxide]

+1 should be fine

but +2 is real nice

[brave ibex]

I was thinking it and a possible bonus joker would give more utility effects since the cards themselves already give mult

Like: Permanently increase consumable slots by one for every 6 mult cards scored (worded in a way so it stays after sold/destroyed and unaffected by double scale)

and then bonus can be +1 joker slot for 18 bonus cards

[soft night]

OOOH

i like that a lot

[lime inlet]

Busted Jonkler idea (spoilers for murphy)
||Mult is now raised to the power of chip, .01X Chips||

[brave ibex]

unfortunately the wiki's bonus card is pretty low quality so i might have to do bonus joker by hand

[lime inlet]

When 6 mult cards are scored, permanently increase consumable slots by one?

[clear hare]

hmmmm

[brave ibex]

yeah that's what I said lol

[lime inlet]

rephrasing lol

[brave ibex]

k

i'll add to suggestions

[lime inlet]

should prob name this ||Chip ^ Mult||

[brave ibex]

btw did lucky joker make it into cryptid yet

[lime inlet]

didn't it? i thought i saw a clip of it

[clear hare]

yes

I merged the PR today

[brave ibex]

oh awesome

[clear hare]

although I should remove the "hi mom" debug message

[brave ibex]

finally have a common

[brave ibex]

nahh keep it, it's officially cryptid lore

[lime inlet]

math are eternal consumables still able to be used

[vestal seal]

honestly even when its not even close to being done this still might be the most complex mod in the entire game
thanks math

[brave ibex]

-1 consumable slot when used but yes

[lime inlet]

luckily only if in slots

if used in shop or smth it's good

[lime inlet]

this def epic

[clear hare]

just reword like Yorick

+1 consumable slot for every 6 Mult cards scored
+1 joker slot for every 18 Bonus cards scored

[lime inlet]

problem is no double scale stuff

[brave ibex]

we can live without that

[clear hare]

also as these stand they're Rare tier

[brave ibex]

I want it to be permanent even if it's sold so no "this joker gains" 👍

[lime inlet]

imagine jonkler that makes red seals retrigger everything

[clear hare]

seals can appear on jokers

[brave ibex]

def a glow up since all the other enchancement jokers are uncommon 😎

[clear hare]

AutumnMood is already modding that though

[lime inlet]

that's just gonna be a feature lol

[brave ibex]

localthunk guidelines in shambles rn

i'll add Mult/bonus joker to suggestions now then maybe try to figure out the blind overlay

[oak herald]

how would purple seal work?

[clear hare]

Spawn a tarot card when this joker is sold

[lime inlet]

did a bit of mental gymnastics for this so what if every hand that they don't proc it spawns a tarot

[chrome comet]

Got a link?

[lime inlet]

pinned

[oak herald]

the chat is going to go wild

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/releases/latest
This includes all the dependencies as well (you'll need a separate folder for Cryptid since it uses a 1.0 alpha of Steamodded)

[lime inlet]

m

[oak herald]

m indeed

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Cryptid/archive/refs/heads/main.zip
This is the latest version of the mod itself if you want to replace that, it might be a bit more unstable since it's in development but it does have a few new crazy things

[severe mesa]

status update 6 - the last one this run. I reopened the game and save was corrupt after bp'ing an error 😭

[clear hare]

good think bp can't do that now

[severe mesa]

rip infinite jokers :(

[clear hare]

I want to see murphy discover ERROR live

[severe mesa]

I had like 12 raw bp as well

[clear hare]

nobody tell him what it does

[chrome comet]

Jokers decks and spectral?

What am I missing here. I feel like I'm walking into a trap

[waxen oxide]

We just have some really nice exotics

[severe mesa]

it's a nice quality-of-life mod

fr

[chrome comet]

interesting

I'm intrigued

[severe mesa]

where's the stream?

I might hop in

[chrome comet]

I'll check it out Wednesday or Friday

[clear hare]

we have a lil' bit of everything here

[waxen oxide]

[clear hare]

also try and get naneinf on this mod, you won't be disappointed ;)

[cold sandal]

New Joker (Stuff Spoiler'd because Murphy is here)

||Potion {Rare}:
Upon beating a Blind, make 1 random card held in hand Polychrome. When a hand is played, make 1 scoring card Polychrome for each Polychrome card held in hand.||

2x version of the art

[brave ibex]

ok I got the overlay for blinds working, don't know how transparent/opaque it is though unfortunately 😩

[cold sandal]

#⚙・modding-general message

[brave ibex]

This is useful 🗿

I think i’ll keep the nostalgic bosses the same as they are currently cause I like how they are
And then fix the rest when I have time

[lost summit]

Cryptid has a wiki? 🤔

[brave ibex]

Balatro fandom wiki

Cryptid wiki would be epic though

[lost summit]

haha true

[lost summit]

not sure what you meant with the bonus card quality being low though, looks fine to me 🤔

[brave ibex]

It’s not really noticeable unless you really zoom in

Even then It’s pretty minor

Might be an issue with my setup but I got lucky and mult card from the same place without issues

[lost summit]

huh, that's weird, cuz the lucky and mult are the exact same resolution

wow

you're right

there is a difference

[lost summit]

how did you even spot that lmao

[brave ibex]

I imported it directly into and noticed it was off

Just a good eye ig

Gimme that file btw 🙏

[lost summit]

the better version?

[cold sandal]

Grab the pics from ign

[lost summit]

it has the ace of spades on it now, but you should be able to just paint bucket it away you should probably use MathIsFun_'s file instead lol

[cold sandal]

iirc ign uses 2x scale for every Balatro art they use on the website

The only weird things with them are the corners

Which have to be fixed by hand

But it's only like 16 pixels

[lost summit]

lol they don't use a transparent background for any of the enhancements files (resulting in those corners) but then they suddenly do make it transparent for lucky card

[clear hare]

here is the bonus texture from a direct game rip

[lost summit]

^ should probably use that one instead anyway

always up-to-date

[cold sandal]

What is the one to the right of the challenge deck

Is that unused

[lost summit]

unused iirc, same goes for the one to the right of plasma

[cold sandal]

We should make them into cryptid decks

Merged Deck {Right of Plasma}
Chip and Mult gain is merged. ^0.5 Blind Requirements

Mosaic Deck {Right of Challenge}
Gold gain on the first ante is doubled, gain no interest, gain $1 per unused discard at the end of round, +1 hand on odd numbered rounds, +1 discard on even numbered rounds.

[gray elm]

Trimmed

[brave ibex]

Bonus joker (scuffed lmao)

[lime inlet]

Finis
||Sell this Joker to erase everything Slowly deletes your save file in a cool way||

Boss Blind idea
||Decrease Hands by 1 for every Poker Hand inside scoring hand(why local must you reuse the same word)||

[brave ibex]

what's with all the spoilers

[lime inlet]

murphy if he somehow sees this

[brave ibex]

i mean it's kinda on him if he wants to go blind lol, just what I think

now time to fix my boss blinds 😩

[fossil whale]

if you get this joker with flood deck (fills all slots with copies of one joker, selling one destroys all) it should ||format your hard drive on sale||

[native lotus]

M

[oak herald]

m

[strange oxide]

m

[empty fern]

my game still crashes whenever i press play
can this be fixed by deleting or replacing anything?

[cold sandal]

Might just need to wait for Math to fix this
But next thing you know, Math is gonna appear and say how to fix it because that's how it always works

[empty fern]

damn..

[subtle nova]

I mean if you just want to delete your save, try pressing b

[cold sandal]

Exotic Joker Tier List (In my opinion)

Also taking stuff from the sheet

https://mytierlist.com/app/polls/8084984

[vestal seal]

||oh yeah augmen does actually kinda suck||

[gray elm]

hell yea

[cold sandal]

||Crustulum|| is basically impossible to rank accurately lmao

[gray elm]

literally turns into a clicker game

[weak burrow]

tbh with all the busted jokers we have now i think ||iterum should come back to x2 mult instead of x1.5||

[cloud granite]

My tier list
Please note that I am bad at this game

[gray elm]

whoops didnt take into account high stakes

[lime inlet]

Incrementum Universum is a little busted

incrementum gets extremely busted the more you have of it

[cloud granite]

Yes, but getting this combo outside of Antimatter/DoE is very hard

[lime inlet]

getting any of these are really hard lol

[cloud granite]

But getting one Exotic is much easier than 2

Btw, can you even have 2 on decks that aren't Antimatter/DoE?

[umbral dagger]

Technically yeah, just start shop 1 gateway + ankh or gateway + invis, easy

[lime inlet]

orthographiam over exponentia is... interesting

[cloud granite]

Okay, 2 different ones

[lime inlet]

Lock spectral

eternal exotic

[cloud granite]

My reasoning is that when you get an exotic joker, you usually don't have much other jokers left, so scaling Exponentia will be difficult

[cloud granite]

Oh, ok

[cold sandal]

Lock might be the only way for 2 Exotics on any other deck

Or Vivifica

[cloud granite]

That tierlist is different for Doe/Antimatter and for other decks

[cloud granite]

It says base joker, doesn't that mean unmodded?

[lime inlet]

there is a suggestion exotic that can allow multiple exotics

[lime inlet]

base edition joker

vanilla is unmodded

[cold sandal]

When I thought base I just thought not Poly foil holo or negative

[cloud granite]

Oh, really? Ok, then I'd move it to S

[lime inlet]

Phantasma: basically makes every item eternal but sellable

you can really see in the sheet how much exotics have scaled

[cloud granite]

Randomized riff-raff doesn't work as it should

[raven wedge]

because that's hardcoded i'm pretty sure

yes

[cold sandal]

We gotta double the amount of jokers in the game

(funny)

[cloud granite]

https://mytierlist.com/app/polls/2191896
Made one with Exotics from the suggestions box

[chrome comet]

fyi if yall dont wanna keep spoilering you dont need to. i have the github link so i'll be going into this blind and not checking here till i play it lol.

[vestal seal]

hi murphy

[chrome comet]

dont want yall to keep having to spoiler tag everything, dont worry bout me lol

[brave ibex]

That’s what I’m saying 😵

[waxen oxide]

Well it's not hard to click/tap the spoilers so I don't mind lol

[clear hare]

will be fixed in next Talisman update

Anyway I will dev Cryptid a bit more today in advance of Murphy playing it

Art-wise what I’d want for that is the stickers for stakes 25-32 and Infinite Deck

[soft night]

what have i brought upon this world with omnia quarteria

[clear hare]

Omnia Quarteria to Exponentia: “I’m you, but better”

Also the stats need to be lowered… a lot

[soft night]

yeah

[clear hare]

I was thinking ^^1 base and +^^0.04 per hand

[soft night]

100% agree

[soft night]

sounds about right

[lime inlet]

imagine all the suggested jokers

[soft night]

no change to mult and then it fucking skyrockets once you do one 4 4oak lmao

[soft night]

waluigi with error stacking

[lime inlet]

if operatio incremento by some miracle makes it into the game it will be nerfed HARD

[soft night]

mfw omnia quarteria becomes pentation

[clear hare]

It’ll probably just be capped to +Mult/XMult

I don’t want to implement pentation lmao

[soft night]

tetration is already enough

literally operatio incremento

[lime inlet]

one nerf could be it can't go beyond exponentiation

tetration will be omnia quarteria's thing

[soft night]

`Additive Mult and multiplicative Mult become multiplicative Mult and exponential Mult, respectively"

[lime inlet]

or just (Will not work on ^Mult or higher)

Phantasma is a surprisingly balanced exotic i think

[lime inlet]

m

[vestal seal]

m

[clear hare]

m

[cloud granite]

m

[junior river]

we need to add balatro trading

we need to make balatro into a roblox simulator in this mod

[native lotus]

m

[strange oxide]

m

[severe mesa]

m

[umbral dagger]

M

[strange oxide]

M

m

[clear hare]

m

[severe mesa]

m

[cold sandal]

m

[summer cargo]

Is it me or do stakes above Jade just kind of stop drawing face down cards

[clear hare]

That could be true, I’ll look into it

[hot marsh]

m

[severe mesa]

challenge for chat: submit your earliest e-naneinf

[lime inlet]

i already got like round 6

[waxen oxide]

m

[oak herald]

ante 7 iirc

[lime inlet]

#1219749193204371456 message

found

should i improve it

or nah

[gray elm]

Try to get ante 1

[lime inlet]

considering how important error is it's gonna be very difficult finding a seed that can manage that

[brave ibex]

First blind fixed of many 🥶 (mimic)

[raven wedge]

good job

[severe mesa]

you just need bp, error, and exponentia really

[lime inlet]

also error luck

even if you got all that you gotta pray that error works out

unless we find a non error setup that is doable in ante 1

[severe mesa]

route:

round 1 - just get as much money as you can
shop 1 - find bp, ankh it, then error

round 2 - again, money
shop 2 - exponentia (canvas optional for less jokers)

round 3 - pray it works

canvas is stupidly op when there's 3 or more right next to each other

[lime inlet]

im on the version that doesn't have inf error

[severe mesa]

wish me luck 🫡

[cold sandal]

I would've had ante 1.4 Infinity but because decimal antes crash the game

I had 4 canvases 2 blueprints

Iterum Exponentia

[severe mesa]

🤔

[severe mesa]

I got 150 copies of ecto and accidentally used too many 😭

pot of jokes was at +553 handsize

[clear hare]

https://github.com/MathIsFun0/Talisman/releases/tag/v1.1.8
Think I fixed this bug now (don't really know how to trigger it so can't test)

[clear hare]

ok I did a few bugfixes let's see how fast I can naneinf now

nice

[waxen oxide]

yeee, round 11 was my fastest

[cold sandal]

Are decimal antes fixed by any chance

Cause it caused an immediate crash

[clear hare]

yes

I also made this look better

this is definitely a build

all we need is canvas

[waxen oxide]

I have a few dice on hand

[cold sandal]

Break Cavendish

[waxen oxide]

hmmm, okay lmao

RIP banna

[green thunder]

oops all maxint!

[clear hare]

ok I got naneinf round 11

[green thunder]

ante -0.6
seems legit

[clear hare]

I mean I think the game will crash first

[green thunder]

crash from what

[clear hare]

too much things going on

My game is frozen just trying to process the blind select logic

I got speculo and error as well as canvas/exponentia build

[lime inlet]

please

bruhhhhhh

i can't get speculo

nvm clutched with tarot pack

holy shit iterum

UNIVERSUM NEXT REROLL

sweating

holy shit so close

not really but still

[lime inlet]

nice

[weak burrow]

It ain't bad for 11 jokers

[lime inlet]

could've gotten ante 1 inf if i got canvas earlier

that was all i needed tbh

speculo canvas is definitely busted

[weak burrow]

Does antimatter deck also have doe effect?

[lime inlet]

yea

it's how i got so many exotics

[weak burrow]

Oh shit

[lime inlet]

i got 2 exotics back to back rerolls

[thin sigil]

Idea: Big Cube namechanged to Tesseract

[empty fern]

ok im gonna try and just
remove every mod

[strange oxide]

known bug with talisman

deleting your profile's save.jkr should do

[empty fern]

yea i did it
fuckin finally lmao

[clear hare]

Trying to patch this, so do you know a good way to trigger it?

[empty fern]

i think it may have to do with when cryptid updates?

[oak herald]

still waiting for the latest cryptid release to not crash on startup

i'd love to play with deck of randomenss but 😭 the crashes

[strange oxide]

I haven't been able to pin it down unfortunately

[clear hare]

if there's a save that triggers it, it would be great to send it here

[clear hare]

It looks like it may have something to do with your Talisman installation, but that looks fine to me

just to see if this works,try adding this file to the Talisman folder

[oak herald]

sadly that didn't, same error message

[clear hare]

can you tell me what happens if you temporarily remove the Talisman directory?

[oak herald]

sure

[oak herald]

the game actually loads

but crashes when i hit play

(might be because my save has a score abov e308)

[clear hare]

(because Talisman saves are incompatible)

if there was an older version of Talisman that worked for you, can you try that?

[oak herald]

👍

went back to the one that i played on on an old cryptid version

oop discord decided to block the message

[clear hare]

that's odd

Can you double check that your install directory is %AppData%/Balatro/Mods/Talisman? (Looked good in the screenshot though)

[oak herald]

going to now

[clear hare]

also make sure that the contents of the big-num folder look something like ths

[oak herald]

here's what they look like

[clear hare]

this is the exact installaton I use, can you try this?

[oak herald]

sure

this worked perfectly 👍

i don't know why, must be some magic

[clear hare]

lmao

something was wrong with your install (or maybe my release lol) but idk what

[oak herald]

yeah it was pretty weird

[clear hare]

for Conveyor Deck should bought jokers go to the left?

or would it make more sense for it to go right to left to help with newer jokers

[oak herald]

oh yeah, is it safe to use hiroglyph yet?

[clear hare]

it is now

[oak herald]

oop
selected the eye

[junior river]

before i download this mod

does it do anything else besides add broken shit in the game

like does it give me every achievement

or something stupid

[cloud granite]

No

[cloud granite]

It adds some fun decks and hard stakes

[junior river]

downloading

[clear hare]

I would make a new profile for it in case things get messed up

[junior river]

oh yeah

[clear hare]

worst I've seen is someone's save.jkr being broken and Steam Cloud keeping on regenerating it

[junior river]

dont want another talisman incident

[junior river]

haha

about that

that was me

and it wasnt the save.jkr

oh

you need talisman

fuck

[clear hare]

surely it's less broken now

[junior river]

i hope

[junior river]

i think this is what broke it i guess

[clear hare]

Conveyor Deck is working now

[junior river]

is this mod telling me i SHOULDNT use super balatrio bros mod?!?!??!?!

i just loaded up the game!

[clear hare]

why are you loading 0.9.8 mods?

in 1.0

[oak herald]

most mods are still on steamodded 0.9.8

cryptid uses steamodded 1.0

[clear hare]

yeah they just won't be compatible rn

[oak herald]

they just aren't compatable sadly 😔

[junior river]

Oh.

[clear hare]

not sure if conveyor deck needs the lower ante scasling

[junior river]

wait this mod only has 18 jokers?

i thought it had way more considering the amount of shit happening in this mod

nvm i see

[clear hare]

that's where the amount of sht is

who said this needed X0.3 blind requirements

[severe mesa]

negative universum where

[clear hare]

it would just get destroyed on the next blind

[strange oxide]

oh damn I see what went wrong here

the folder is called Tailsman

[oak herald]

oh

[clear hare]

lmao

[oak herald]

it was just a tiny typo 😭

[clear hare]

tailsman my favorite spectral card

[strange oxide]

tails man

[oak herald]

kinda amazing how no one spotted it

but then again it's so minor

[strange oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-tails-the-fox-coming-sonic-im-waiting-tails-gif-25767815

[weak burrow]

Reminds me of a minecraft server where one of the ranks was diety instead of deity XD

[strange oxide]

Lmao

[clear hare]

copying negatives works like you'd expect

infinite jokers now

[strange oxide]

oh no

[junior river]

what is the deck that gives this decimal randomized values

it was basically the only thing i wanted out of cryptid!!!!!!!!!!

[gray elm]

misprint deck

[junior river]

where is it!!

[clear hare]

hmmm

[clear hare]

source code

[junior river]

oh

[clear hare]

the other cool thing about negative jokers with conveyor deck is that you can actually hold other jokers besides the one you're duping

[weak burrow]

Try conveyor with negative joker

[clear hare]

I did

I got ectoplasm this run and it was so worth it

[weak burrow]

Not a negative joker the negative joker

[clear hare]

oh

[weak burrow]

The +3 slots one

[strange oxide]

oh no

[weak burrow]

Oh yes

[clear hare]

infinite joker slot bui;d

[weak burrow]

Real

[gray elm]

how does conveyor work again

[clear hare]

also before you get too excited pinned jokers don't work with conveyor

they're stuck on the belt

[weak burrow]

Isn't it called negative joker? Maybe I'm misremembering

[clear hare]

you can't move jokers
at start of round, duplicate the leftmost joker and destroy the rightmost joker

[gray elm]

duplicate once?

[clear hare]

once

[weak burrow]

Oh I thought it fills based on the amount of slots you have

[clear hare]

no, you still have to buy some to use as sacrifices

[weak burrow]

Rip that idea then

[clear hare]

this isn't flood deck

[weak burrow]

Oh that's an idea?

[clear hare]

we have flood deck at home:

[gray elm]

oh the duplicated joker doesnt get put into the leftmost slot

imean rightmost

[clear hare]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215786968433164328

[clear hare]

it get put in leftmost

[oak herald]

you know what would be funny a deck that allows you to play wheel of fortune (the gameshow, not the tarot card)

[junior river]

what am i not getting 😭

[severe mesa]

99.8k handsize 😭

this is the dream

[brave ibex]

Classic double scale

[severe mesa]

status update: accidentally copied over 1000 ecto (...again)

11 fps going so hard rn

handsize ~260k and I haven't even selected the next blind

[gray elm]

wait make effacire allow us to play any amount of cards