#Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

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cold sandal
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Nice

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Also got some help from ChatGPT

upper acorn
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…white holes aren’t a real thing are they?

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This isn’t a criticism this is a genuine question

rigid obsidian
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theyre a predicted thing by physics iirc

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nobodys ever seen one though

upper acorn
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Interesting

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Thanks for answering that slightly silly question btw

rigid obsidian
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doesnt mean they dont exist its just that there isnt much evidence for them other than certain interpretations of physics

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yw

upper acorn
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Oh art looks great btw

rigid obsidian
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thanks i tried my best

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please remove stake 27s effect from the list it has come to my attention that people dont want that to exist

fickle shadow
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Within reason the stakes might as well be brutally unfair because everything else the mod does is intentionally severely unbalanced in the players favour (usually)

native lotus
lime inlet
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lolo

clear hare
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m

native lotus
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m

thin sigil
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n

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All On Black: X3 mult for every Black suit scored, X1/3 mult for every red suit scored

All On Red: X3 mult for every Red suit scored, X1/3 mult for every black suit scored

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(Both rares)

lime inlet
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trigerred

thin sigil
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oh yeah

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wait what do u mean by that

lime inlet
thin sigil
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lol

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math should fix that

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he must have been tired

clear hare
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I should add triggered successfully

lime inlet
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nah most people caught on it means succesfully

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This Joker gains Xmult equal to the denominator of a triggered listed probability

native lotus
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welp

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stickers for every chip ive done so far

clear hare
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nice

native lotus
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So uh

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Any news on the new stake colors?

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One possibility is making them a gradient

clear hare
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This would be good with a special one for stake 32 if we plan on making it the last one

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Imagine stake 40

native lotus
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here is one example

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im just gonna quickly cook up 8 of those

fickle shadow
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At what point does it become a case of randomly generating a colour and recolouring a base chip sprite in-game on load?

native lotus
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as a backup

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have fun ig?

clear hare
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I will

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ig

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I also just realized that gold stickers are slightly larger than the rest

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put all the stickers on a sprite map, now time to automate the process

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got it

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asking chatgpt for some stake names now for the gradients

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these ones can work fornow

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I think #6 works the best for a final stake, but the rest I'll keep in order

native lotus
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alrighty

clear hare
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this is the current stake atlas

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stake names for now

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still trying to figure out something better for the last one

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I want to make the stake colors for these gradients at some point too, but I don't think there's gradient API yet

fickle shadow
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What colour(s) does Ascendant represent?

clear hare
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blue to red

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the bottom right one in the atlas

fickle shadow
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Looks kinda like a retrowave sunset

clear hare
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we could do sunset stake

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Added in all the stake metadata now

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The weird textures made the stake columns look like arrows which is sick

lime inlet
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i should prob send the rest of the joker ideas(again)

weak burrow
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Also the more I think about it the more I think boss rush is the challenge that fits the final stake

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Also math the sheet has gotten too big I think you gotta split it

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Simplest is jokers keys stakes decks and maybe another split

lime inlet
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imagine last stake everry blind is a boss blind

weak burrow
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I think a boss blind boss rush makes more sense

clear hare
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It’s already almost like that

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Since big blinds can be boss blinds and there’s no small blinds

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And they can even be final boss blinds

lime inlet
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what if the final stake doubled the effects of all previous stakes

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or that effect can switch with any of the other stakes that are a multiple of 8

clear hare
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behold pink stake ante scaling

lime inlet
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m

fickle shadow
lime inlet
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verdant stake scaling?

weak burrow
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3.6 with plasma

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so from 1.2 to 1.8

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maybe verdant is 2.7 then?

lime inlet
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which makes verdant plasma a whopping 5.4m

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nice

weak burrow
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i mean it went 50% in pink

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so another 50 from that

clear hare
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brown stake is working too now

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yellow stake too

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wait it seems to only do rentals

weak burrow
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how would rental planets even work lmao

clear hare
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I’ll have to test when I get home now but I assume if you hold them they’ll lose money?

native lotus
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there are so many stakes lmfao

weak burrow
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basically like observatory nerf

clear hare
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I also have to test that these even work for like, playing cards

weak burrow
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does it work on tarots?

weak burrow
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imagine

lime inlet
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stickers on playing cards lmao

clear hare
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Also fixed it to not just do rentals before I left

clear hare
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Imagine naneinf yellow stake

native lotus
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Y’all know how like balatro logo thingy is that big ass „balatro” writing, so uh, thinking bout doing that for cryptid

brave ibex
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Are jokers submissions still being accepted or no I got an idea for an op one

clear hare
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Yes

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They’re always accepted 👿

brave ibex
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Gotta put it down rn then

clear hare
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Once we get up to like diamond stake I can start convincing streamers to try out the harder stakes

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I’ll add a way to disable/enable certain files so they only get the stakes

brave ibex
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Joker: Better DNA
1$ (no downside like credit card)
Common rarity for easy accessibility + Riff raff
Effect: Create a Negative copy of the rightmost joker when sold

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I don’t have a sprite though xd

lime inlet
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now that i think about felis, it doesn't make that much sense name wise how about non probabilis or smth

weak burrow
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Tempered Glass: (Rare)
Glass cards cant break (wording can be changed)

clear hare
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It’s the Perkeo of Jokers

weak burrow
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does the name ethereal make sense when talking about glass cards?

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i thought about spectral cards idk

brave ibex
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I say it’s fine

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They can coexist in harmony balatrojoker

clear hare
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It works

brave ibex
clear hare
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Tempered Glass

weak burrow
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idk window charm doesnt sound right

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tempered glass might be better

clear hare
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That’s literally glass but harder

weak burrow
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yeah i know what tempered glass is

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i had one in my pc case but i dropped it on the edge and it went goodbye

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its hard but drop it wrong and its gone

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it was a really small drop

brave ibex
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What about Shatter charm

weak burrow
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i think that gives like the opposite idea

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i think tempered glass is a good idea

brave ibex
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Is it permanent or just for the round though

weak burrow
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i should add that to to doc as a comment

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permenant

brave ibex
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Rip glass joker

weak burrow
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i gave ideas that change some principles

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like spiritual cleanse removing spectral debuffs

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like ecto doesnt reduce hand size

lime inlet
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what if felis -> non verisimile(unlikely)

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i feel like felis can be given to a more broken exotic

weak burrow
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aight i added my idea as a comment

native lotus
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the percent of competion just goes down in the doc 💀

weak burrow
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Just keep adding ideas and keep math working forever

lime inlet
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added comment on felis

clear hare
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have like 10 mins to try things out so I'll see if I can break something with the stickers

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i forgot to disable edition checks on consumables

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the effect works as well (it gives X1.5 Mult)

lime inlet
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When Blind is selected, disable 3 cards in hand
random stake idea that can replace smth

lime inlet
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perkeo might crash the game tho

clear hare
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you can still use eternal consumables

lime inlet
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should the yellow stake effect be scrapped?

clear hare
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I mean I already added it

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and it's a good effect

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perishable and rental are also not updating in consumable slots

lime inlet
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cause i meant yellow

clear hare
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yellow

lime inlet
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k

clear hare
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stickers are also not working at all on playing cards

lime inlet
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lmao

clear hare
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I would expect rental to apply when held in hand or played and I would expect perishable to always tick down

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or maybe also only when played or held in hand

lime inlet
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Exponentia(Exponentiation):
^1.1 mult, gains 0.01^ mult for each instance of multiplication

weak burrow
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Does something like idol give it 5?

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Since it's 5 times

lime inlet
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+0.5^

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wait

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supposed to be 0.01 lol

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steel also counts

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technically the baron mime setup could give so much ^mult

lime inlet
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Reditus(Income):
All sources of money increase by $1 per individual payout

rigid obsidian
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i made art for white hole. please put that on the sheet.
also, please remove ember stakes effect from the sheet. i will continue asking for this until it is removed, because i do not want people to continue asking me rhetorical questions about it. thank you.

clear hare
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alr

rigid obsidian
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here is the art for white hole, in case you dont want to go looking for it.

clear hare
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Ty

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Should be updated now

rigid obsidian
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i will now leave my house. when i return, i will continue helping with your mod. bye.

clear hare
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Bye

lime inlet
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i gotta comment the joker ideas lmao

cold sandal
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What if there was a sticker that made jokers take up 2 slots

lime inlet
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Positive sticker(cause opposite of negative)

rigid obsidian
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memory tag.

lime inlet
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noice

rigid obsidian
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its at line 157.

clear hare
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LIMBO (Rare)
If you are about to lose a boss blind, play a memory game with 8 random Keys. If you pick the correct Key, use it and get saved from death.

lime inlet
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there's currently 3 ideas on the bottom of the sheet lol

cold sandal
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I knew it'd happen eventually

clear hare
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Alternate idea: do this at the start of a final boss blind to beat it

rigid obsidian
lime inlet
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that cool?

native lotus
lime inlet
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lel

clear hare
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Oh also gain a memory tag after each boss blind defeated

rigid obsidian
native lotus
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its like 1.30 am and my brain got the random motivation to wwork on sprites B)

clear hare
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:)

rigid obsidian
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i will complete the rest of the tags.

native lotus
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do we have a template for the keys already or nah?

clear hare
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Not yet

native lotus
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welp

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32x32?

clear hare
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There were a few made

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I think they were a bit smaller than 32x32

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Let me send the message link

native lotus
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also yall got any ideas of how the deck of gluttony should look?

lime inlet
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orang

clear hare
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^

lime inlet
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also had an idea

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for joiker

native lotus
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alrighty

lime inlet
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When round begins, debuff 3 random cards in deck. If all debuffed cards have been played before the end of round, summon a random Joker that's Rare or higher(Evenly distributed odds)```
rigid obsidian
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cat tag. 1x. line 158. meow.

lime inlet
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loe

clear hare
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I’m definitely making that the description now

native lotus
# clear hare Food

the issue rn that im having is that for both the greed and envy decks i wwent for the demon of corresponding sin

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all i can figure out with food and beelzebub is making it rotten and swarmed with flies

lime inlet
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ima comment the unnamed idea unless math's gonna implement it rn

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there should probably a place that makes it clear where to put the ideas in lll

clear hare
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I should add an ideas box that anyone can edit

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And then clean up the spreadsheet as well

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I’ll do that tonight

cold sandal
rigid obsidian
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triple tag. line 154.

native lotus
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damn you work fast

rigid obsidian
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thanks.

clear hare
native lotus
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omg they look like keys from limbo no way 🤯

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(i am mentaly insane)

clear hare
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Now we need two more random solid deck colors and keys (real)

rigid obsidian
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quadruple tag. line 155.

native lotus
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so going on wikipedia i found this

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which eventualy lead me to this

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is it good enough?

rigid obsidian
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quintuple tag. line 156.

native lotus
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damn the middle straight up black

cold sandal
native lotus
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ayup

cold sandal
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Cool

native lotus
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here is png

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fellas

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i present to you

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deck of sloth

cold sandal
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Insane

native lotus
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truly a piece of art

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just give me a second as i make ripped satan for the deck of wrath

cold sandal
native lotus
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yeah but it has a double meaning of me being lazy with the deck of sloth

cold sandal
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yeah ik

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In that case though what'd Blank Deck be

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just something like the Blank Voucher

native lotus
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yeah

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that was my assumption at least

lime inlet
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actually

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just write "Deck of Sloth"

native lotus
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seems reasonable

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anyway

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i don't think im gonna do more stuff today im too tired

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asedjansdlsand

lime inlet
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imagine "Deck of slo"

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too lazy to finish it

native lotus
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Imma do that tomorrow too lazy to do now

lime inlet
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perfect

fickle shadow
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Hahaha

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So when are we getting Grey Hole

cold sandal
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Can't wait to open a Celestial Pack on the Cryptic Deck only to find 3 White Holes

clear hare
rigid obsidian
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going to finish the tags now. i was busy.

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bicycles.

clear hare
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We also need a better name for the pack gambler tag

rigid obsidian
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bundle tag?

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combo tag?

fickle shadow
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My boyfriend says that if you manage to get nine Cat tags they should redeem and spawn nine negative Mr Bones

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And by redeem I don't mean they disappear, obviously they can't leave

rigid obsidian
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bundle tag. line 151.

cold sandal
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I made some art for the Very Fair Deck

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Upscaled

clear hare
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Should flash “Unbalanced” whenever a hand is scored

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Which doesn’t do anything, it just mocks you

rigid obsidian
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if its balanced then it should provide -1 chip

cold sandal
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Lose and it'll just say "L"

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And always L

rigid obsidian
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because funny

rigid obsidian
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heres a checkmark tag idk if theres any use for it but the mod can have it

brave ibex
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is there a sheet for everything conceptualized? I wanna see if better DNA made it in balatrojoker

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oh I see it in pinned

rigid obsidian
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whats the color of exotic?

clear hare
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Lemme pull it up

brave ibex
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is exotic planned to be highest rarity

rigid obsidian
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btw can you add bundle tag to the sheet

clear hare
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#708b91

clear hare
rigid obsidian
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alr

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thanks

brave ibex
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I might do some of the art actually if i have time

rigid obsidian
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empowered tag

brave ibex
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joker dimensions are 71 x 95 pixels right?

rigid obsidian
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yes

brave ibex
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got it

rigid obsidian
clear hare
rigid obsidian
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yeah thats what i assumed lol

clear hare
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but yes it is

rigid obsidian
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gamblers tag

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cool i did all the tags

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probably gonna do decks now

rigid obsidian
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royalty deck, line 134

clear hare
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Bobm Stake
Start a 15-minute timer when run begins. If time reaches 0, lose the game

Kind of a joke idea but do you think this would fit for the missing stake spot?

rigid obsidian
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ive changed my mind add the old effect back

clear hare
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I mean I say it's a joke idea because adding a time limit is completely against the game's design

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it's like adding boxing to chess or something

rigid obsidian
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you can add that too if you want im just saying i really want to implement halved deck effects despite people not caring about them

clear hare
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I think it's cool

rigid obsidian
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thank you

clear hare
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Would it be a nightmare to properly implement? Yeah probably but I can deal with it

rigid obsidian
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im willing to help with it since its specifically my problem that specifically i caused

clear hare
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It won't really be an issue until I implement the previous 20 stakes

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but tbh it will mostly just be overriding the current possible effects of decks to worked with halved abilities

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I can already think of mechanics for all decks, let me just write them out

rigid obsidian
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yea

clear hare
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and also obviously it won't apply for the Very Fair Deck

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because that would be a buff

rigid obsidian
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thats why i suggested it halve upsides only

clear hare
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I'll word it as "positive deck effects"

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Red Deck: +0.5 discards every round (half-discard can only be used for 3 or fewer cards)
Blue Deck: +0.5 hands every round (half-hand can only be used for 3 or fewer cards)
Yellow Deck: Start with extra $5
Green Deck: Earn $1 per remaining hand, $0.5 per remaining discard, no interest
Black Deck: +0.5 Joker slots, -1 hand per round (half-joker slots can only hold common jokers)
Magic Deck: Crystal Ball appears in ante 1, start with 1 copy of The Fool
Nebula Deck: Telescope appears in ante 1, -1 consumable slot
Ghost Deck: Spectral cards can appear in shop (shop rate is halved), gain a Hex card after beating ante 1
Abandoned Deck: Destroy 6 random face cards in deck
Checkered Deck: Convert 13 random diamonds/clubs into hearts/spades
Zodiac Deck: Redeem one of Tarot Merchant, Planet Merchant, and Overstock; the other two will appear in the shop in antes 1 and 2
Painted Deck: +1 hand size, -1 Joker slot
Anaglyph Deck: After defeating each boss blind, 1 in 2 chance to gain a Double Tag
Plasma Deck: Balance Chips and Mult halfway when calculating score for played hand, X2 base Blind size
Erratic Deck: 26 random cards in deck are randomized

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if half-hand size is necessary, it can only hold cards with no enhancements, editions, or seals

rigid obsidian
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nevermind dont

clear hare
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doesn't seem that hard to make balatrojoker

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I'll use it for now until there's a better alternative

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which bobm definitely isn't

rigid obsidian
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just remove the ability to gain money from selling stuff

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i dont want to continue talking about halving deck effects with people

lime inlet
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m

clear hare
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ok

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I think the idea is cool but ig that works too

rigid obsidian
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dw im still going to implement it, its just gonna be its own mod instead since thats the easiest way to do it

lime inlet
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these


[Unnamed]: When Blind is selected, turn into a random Joker matching the highest rarity of owned Jokers```
rigid obsidian
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last resort deck (painful!!!! manual polychrome is hard aaaaaaa) line 140

clear hare
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nah I understand where you're coming from

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gl on your modding journey

rigid obsidian
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not entirely sure you do but still thanks

clear hare
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still have to add the voucher effect

cold sandal
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People tryna Ascendant Stake the Very Fair Deck at 5am

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Blue stake would be hard enough considering you start with 0 discards

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But add on the 27 other stake effects

rigid obsidian
clear hare
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IT WORKS

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I gotta change the description though

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you can still get vouchers from tags I think but that seems fine

cold sandal
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It'd be funny if you could replace the "DEFEAT BOSS BLIND TO RESTOCK" text to "L NO VOUCHERS FOR YOU"

cold sandal
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Seems fair

clear hare
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imagine if...

cold sandal
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0 Discards

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Seems reasonable

clear hare
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very fair

cold sandal
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Just as the name of the deck implies

rigid obsidian
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feature idea: challenge deck stakes

clear hare
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NO WAY

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that text isn't even localized

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we just found a bug

cold sandal
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:o

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Wait which text

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Is it the "DEFEAT BOSS BLIND TO RESTOCK"

clear hare
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ye

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someone already made a report on that 5 days ago though

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anyway that makes changing it a bit easier lmao

rigid obsidian
cold sandal
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💀

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Someone would find a way

rigid obsidian
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yea lol

clear hare
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golden needle on very fair deck

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-1 hand

rigid obsidian
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no way challenges with decks

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real

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black deck jokerless

clear hare
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ok so what should the text say

rigid obsidian
clear hare
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ok give me a few more

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I'm going to tell modding chat this too

cold sandal
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OOPS!
NO VOUCHERS

rigid obsidian
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YOU JOKER,
WHY ARE YOU LOOKING
OVER HERE? LOL

cold sandal
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KENNY
FROM MANAGEMENT
FORGOT TO RESTOCK

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first name that came to mind

rigid obsidian
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one of them should literally just be "XD"

cold sandal
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actually itd make more sense if it said JIMBO

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JIMBO
FROM MANAGEMENT
FORGOT TO RESTOCK

brave ibex
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"The Voucher is in another castle" one i just thought of

rigid obsidian
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$0
BLANK VOUCHER
DO YOU GET THE JOKE

clear hare
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ok from both chats we have like 9 now

rigid obsidian
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why no xd?

clear hare
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come up with something for that maybe

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thanks everyone for the ideas

cold sandal
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I'd love to see people trying to play the game with the Very Fair Deck

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And then just getting bullied by the voucher slot

clear hare
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once smods 1.0 releases streamers are going to have a field day with this and the stakes

cold sandal
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ye

clear hare
cold sandal
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Checked

clear hare
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balatrostuckgaming argued that the every other voucher stake should be giving vouchers only on even stakes

cold sandal
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The deck would be too balanced

clear hare
cold sandal
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Add voucher tags to every even ante maybe

clear hare
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for the stake not the deck

cold sandal
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o

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Instead of the restock every 2 antes?

clear hare
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they'll still restock every other ante, it would just be nope in ante 1

cold sandal
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Would it be Vouchers only exist every on even antes (Just deleting the Voucher on the odd antes) or Vouchers only restock on even antes

clear hare
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restock

cold sandal
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SOMEONE IS
USING THE
TICKET DECK

clear hare
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?

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I don't get the reference

cold sandal
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129

clear hare
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ah

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ticket deck might come later though so it's a bit weird

brave ibex
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~~mario voucher when ~~

rigid obsidian
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"error
cannot do arithmetic on a nil value
(tier4vouchers.lua)"

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joke about tier 3 vouchers

clear hare
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oh that's much better than my current error one

cold sandal
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89 (Unlocker) kinda sounds weird

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Could maybe be renamed to Bump Key

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DEFEAT
BOSS BLIND
FOR NOTHING

clear hare
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ok now that that's done let me try getting stickers to have effects on other card types

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first question: should eternal consumables be usable?

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my guess is nope

vestal seal
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there's another mod with eternal consumables and they're usable there

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just not able to be sold

clear hare
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that's the "vanilla" behavior

cold sandal
clear hare
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ok

rigid obsidian
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banana sticker should have a texture i will make one

scenic pumice
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repost incase you missed it:
we are sorry to say / but all vouchers have been recalled / due to salmonella exposure

clear hare
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ty

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I stopped looking there so posting here was goof

scenic pumice
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your vouchers could not arrive / due to your shop layout being / 200% overbudget

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you like buying vouchers / dont you / you're a voucherbuyer

clear hare
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this works now btw

scenic pumice
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cool

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all the vouchers / ∉ / the voucher pool

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("∉" means "no set membership" btw)

clear hare
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I also have to deal with being unable to use consumables or destroy playing cards, but that's for later

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I don't think that'll work solely because of the game font

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loving the idea tho

brave ibex
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can you find eternal planets in packs 🧐

clear hare
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yes

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just not from ex. high priestess

rigid obsidian
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banana sticker

scenic pumice
clear hare
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sure

scenic pumice
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yay

clear hare
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I'll do VOUCHERS / !E / VOUCHER POOL

scenic pumice
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yay

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there / is no / voucher

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(referencing the nova drift discord)

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(rule 9 specifically)

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THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY / THERE IS NO SANTA / AND THERE ARE NO VOUCHERS

rigid obsidian
scenic pumice
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/ vouchern't /

clear hare
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YOU / JUST LOST / THE GAME

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I got perishable and rental working too

scenic pumice
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CAN I OFFER YOU / A NICE EGG / IN THESE TRYING TIMES

clear hare
scenic pumice
#

!!

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GO TOUCH GRASS / INSTEAD OF / USING THIS DECK

clear hare
#

ok now you can't use it if it's debuffed

scenic pumice
#

useless

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its useless

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how sad

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doesn't even have a banana sticker

clear hare
#

I'm going to make the call to modify eternal cards but not destroy them

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that makes sense with being able to add editions to eternal jokers

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are there any ways to destroy cards besides Hanged Man and Immolate?

scenic pumice
#

trading card

clear hare
#

true

scenic pumice
#

glass also

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sith sense

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*sixth

brave ibex
#

incantaion, familiar, grim also

clear hare
#

ty

scenic pumice
#

i think thats it

clear hare
#

no shot my hanged man patch works first try

cold sandal
#

Nice

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also gn i gotta sleep

scenic pumice
#

YOU COULD BE / PLAYING ON BLUE DECK / RIGHT NOW

clear hare
#

gn

scenic pumice
#

gn

clear hare
#

same for Immolate

scenic pumice
#

gn??

clear hare
#

I'm staying a little longer

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Incantation/Grim/Familiar are being trickier

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despite the fact that they are coded very similarly to Immolate

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ok I realized what it was

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Steamodded was registering them already so I was overriding code that didn't even run

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gn from me now

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oh wait, one more screenshot

brave ibex
#

wip template for future cryptid artists 🫡

clear hare
brave ibex
#

stacked

thin sigil
#

we don't have a lot of spectrals, maybe add in a few of those?

fading maple
fickle shadow
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Those no vouchers messages remind me of the Half-life locked door pa announcer easter egg

thin sigil
#

lol

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So, how many spetrals/jokers/vouchers/tags/etc are going to be implemented in the final version
Or are there no limits

lime inlet
#

had a stake idea

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basically the cost of items scale based on how much money you have

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:)

thin sigil
#

oh god

weak burrow
#

There's enough going on with eco so I don't think that's needed

lime inlet
#

lol

weak burrow
#

Like if you go into every shop with 0 dollars you'll just lose

clear hare
#

I found something funny

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the way death calculates the rightmost card is by looking at its on-screen X position

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lmao

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we can also reuse that same logic to make death not work with eternals

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Trading Card works now

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Sixth Sense works now

#

glass card strats feel really broken

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I also made perishable apply to cards in deck and played/discarded too

lime inlet
#

Tempered Glass could be
Sell this Joker to make all Glass cards eternal

clear hare
#

you can't see the animations but you can hear them >:)

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(and you can kinda see them for cards still in the deck)

lime inlet
#

can you find stickered cards in standard packs

clear hare
clear hare
#

you can find stickered cards in packs and in the shop for any card type

lime inlet
#

also orthographiam just got buffed lmao

clear hare
#

eternal perishable and rental are surprisingly intersting on playing cards

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not so much on consumables but still...

lime inlet
#

i think that's the max

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oh wait debuffed

clear hare
#

and good luck trying to win any runs like this

lime inlet
#

what's the rarest card now in the pack

clear hare
#

2.7% chance to be eternal, perishable, and rental times whatever it was before

lime inlet
#

3/5.2M before iirc

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idk if i did this right but

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81/5.2B

brave ibex
lime inlet
weak burrow
lime inlet
#

probability of getting the rarest standard pack card 5 times in a row is 9e-40

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imagine a challenge with Reditus and the cost of items scaling with ur money idea

lime inlet
#

m

native lotus
#

m

lime inlet
#

are challenge ideas accepted or nah

#

Poor get Poorer:
Subtracts double the current $ from chips

Start with Compound Interest and all 3 money vouchers

clear hare
#

Eternal Compound Interest

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Honestly it might be a strategy to just take the 1 chip per round and spend all your money on mult

lime inlet
#

just realized

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compound interest can go up to exactly 100% with all of the -ante vouchers

clear hare
#

silver stake was the easiest stake to add so far

#

the effect is already implemented in X-Ray Challenge

#

I just set the rate to 1/25 for now, what do y'all think it should be?

lime inlet
#

1/6

weak burrow
#

for cards to be upside down?

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either 1 of 6 or 7

#

fits the boss that does the same

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but its just every round

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btw math you gotta split the sheet into each category

#

its getting way too long

clear hare
#

I'll do that tonight or tmrw

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because I agree with htat

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1/6 is really cruel

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since the challenge is 1/4

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I think 1/20 is fine

#

because if you're going for a build with that specific card it really screws you over

#

also cyan stake should be really easy

#

currently I have this as the rates:
Common: 70% -> 82%
Uncommon: 25% -> 15%
Rare: 5% -> 3%

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also imagine this

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(that was just to test my code)

cloud granite
clear hare
#

eternal rental perishable chicot

cloud granite
#

Literally worse Luchador if you get it at Small blind

weak burrow
#

ngl i would love that as a troll, legendary jokers can appear in shop but all of them are rental and perishable

clear hare
#

gray stake is working too

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these ones are much easier to make because I'm not adding any new mechanics, just changing some game variables

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I'll go up to diamond and then call it for now probably

cloud granite
#

Suggestion for a stake if it wasn't suggested before: everything that can get a sticker can get it no matter the source.
(So if you get a joker from Judgement, it can have a sticker too)

clear hare
#

that's cruel

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but could work for a later stake

cloud granite
#

Not really, there aren't much sources for things that guarantee no stickers. From the top of my head it's Judgement, Riff-Raff, Wraith and maybe Emperor and that tarot that gives 2 planets

lime inlet
#

blue seal i think

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vaga

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seance and sixth sense

clear hare
#

imo it just means you won't interact with those at all

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(for the other stake idea)

#

a neat side effect of diamond stake is final boss blinds only appear every 10 antes

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the final boss is 6 million LMAO

cloud granite
clear hare
#

screenshot

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I spawned it all with debug mode

brave ibex
#

How many ante scaling stakes are there lmao

clear hare
#

two

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but this is also two antes further

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(one of the ante scaling stakes are later)

cloud granite
#

Not enough until ante 8 requires 1e307 score, I saw naneinf before ante 8 is possible so why not

brave ibex
#

Oh yeah I forgot that

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What is ante 8 base

#

500k?

clear hare
#

300k

#

500k will probably be for the next scaling

brave ibex
#

Purple stake is 200k, a 100% increase from green, so numbers might need tweaking later

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I think it can come after the jokers are all settled

clear hare
#

I think I’ll make parts of the mod toggleable though

brave ibex
#

Yeah this mod is huge

clear hare
#

There are people who just want to try out the harder stakes without seeing a bunch of busted jokers in the shop

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So I’m probably going to add a settings API for it

brave ibex
#

Could be advertised as a mega modpack honestly

clear hare
#

Before I do a release

weak burrow
#

How much is vv?

clear hare
#

18 million

weak burrow
#

Jesus

lime inlet
#

imagine ascendant stake was "Start on ante 2"

clear hare
#

-1 Joker slots is much easier

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Start on Ante 2 with the ante scaling requires ridiculous luck with card draws

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Or skip RNG

cloud granite
clear hare
#

I think like 1500?

cloud granite
#

pfff, just play 2 straight flushes

rigid obsidian
#

straight flushes are heavily unreliable, especially if you havent done anything to make them more viable, such as the first blind

lime inlet
#

m

brave ibex
#

j

#

i

rigid obsidian
#

this is 100% not a true statement all of the time, its only true for most people

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anyways the mod needs art desperately so ill go work on that

summer cargo
#

mod machine 🅱️roke, does it not like having lovely and steamodded installed at the same time

#

i narrowed it down to just this mod so it's something in here

lime inlet
#

@clear hare how many stakes you've done?

clear hare
#

8

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so we have 16 total

rigid obsidian
#

vacuum (recolored version of vaccum the planet)

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to be clear, this is an art submission for line 5

brave ibex
#

that's a spectral right

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don't you need the name thing at the bottom for those

rigid obsidian
#

black hole doesnt
white hole doesnt

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all 3 of them are planet spectrals

brave ibex
#

I guess it is not meant to be similar to vanilla

rigid obsidian
#

im just following patterns

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the only other interpretation is a vacuum cleaner in a spectral card which would be extremely unvanilla

brave ibex
#

Hmm that’s true

brave ibex
#

Joker template done, might help with the art odd_todd (this is just the ss dm for the actual file if you want it)

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gonna do one with jimbo cause I hav a few ideas with it and then It's time to create heat 🔥

rigid obsidian
#

just waiting for vacuum to be added to the sheet so that i dont overload the person responsible for maintaining the sheet with my artwork

cold sandal
#

Done

rigid obsidian
#

👍

lime inlet
#

why don't we have a term for all editions except negative

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"All non-Negative Edition Jokers"?

cold sandal
#

Positive Jokers?

#

I feel like that'd make the most sense

lime inlet
#

we need an index now lol

#

Every Positive Enhanced Joker will randomly cycle between every Edition except Negative

#

sounds like a good alternative to colorshift's original description

cold sandal
#

It'd be Positive Enhanced Joker, otherwise it'd give regular Jokers enhancements for free

lime inlet
#

lel

cold sandal
#

Updated

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Enhanced technically refers to cards (Mult, Glass, Bonus) so I replaced it with some edition wording

lime inlet
#

should there be a text box explaining what Positive means

cold sandal
#

Probably should be but I wouldn't know where to put it

lime inlet
#

like the coding?

#

math will do that

clear hare
#

yep

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you can add custom context menus

lime inlet
#

did u add the idea box thing

clear hare
#

nah

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I've been busy trying to finish up stake API (and before that, add something to The Soul)

clear hare
#

now I'm going to add a configuration system so I can release a demo of the mod

lime inlet
#

wonder why Curate doesn't just say
All Jokers in shop have editions

clear hare
#

here we go

cold sandal
#

Very Fair Deck being its own checkbox Xd

clear hare
#

deserved

cold sandal
#

Can't wait to see people try to Diamond Stake the Very Fair Deck

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Dark matter with the Devil's Deck

lime inlet
#

Reditus with the devils deck lmao

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i wanna see how busted reditus can be with like green deck

cold sandal
lime inlet
clear hare
#

I posted it in modding chat and we got like 40 submissions

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lmao

rigid obsidian
#

voucher taunt consumable type when

clear hare
#

ok I finally got the injection working properly for the demo

rigid obsidian
#

oh cool a demo

lime inlet
cold sandal
#

Not saying for the deck of idk

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Just saying idk what to use this for

clear hare
#

I'll have this be the default settings (since I know streamers are going to want to try the stakes and decks without seeing an OP joker appear

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but in the full version they'll all be enabled by default

rigid obsidian
#

btw does "enhanced decks" include the 4 editioned and 4 sealed decks?

clear hare
rigid obsidian
#

those shouldnt be too difficult to add if you already have the 8 enhanced ones

cold sandal
rigid obsidian
#

thats black deck

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also that isnt transparent

cold sandal
#

As a light mode user

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Thats what I see

rigid obsidian
#

ooo cool a camoflauge deck

clear hare
rigid obsidian
#

cool thanks

clear hare
#

also the full eternal/perishable/rental decks :O

rigid obsidian
#

and banana! dont forget banana

cold sandal
#

Banana deck!

clear hare
#

well I didn't add banana yet

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and that will be after the demo for sure

cold sandal
#

Starts with 5 Gros Michels also

rigid obsidian
#

1 in 10 to be destroyed at the end of round should be very easy to add to the consumables and playing cards

clear hare
#

yeah it'll be good

rigid obsidian
#

but i understand

#

yea

clear hare
#

I'll give it held in hand conditions like rental

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also the Gateway spawning doesn't work

#

I think it's a Steamodded bug with the new API they just added

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nvm it's my bug

#

these stickers look so cool

grim tiger
#

where can i find the github? here to make the nasty green stake

clear hare
grim tiger
#

thanks

clear hare
#

yw

grim tiger
#

should be done, could try to make it nastier i guess

#

and some screenshots for anyone curious

clear hare
#

I'll call it Jade Stake (since I want the stake in this spot to be a precious metal)

grim tiger
#

fair

#

thoughts on the idea of a glass stake? the visual came to mind before anything else but it could prob be like "cards have a 1 in 6 chance to be destroyed after scoring"

clear hare
#

that seems like a good idea (with a lower chance)

#

1 in 50 might be good

#

that could be a good theme for stakes 33-40

grim tiger
#

fair, i have no idea where the balance is going for the unbalanced mod so i just chose randomly

clear hare
#

(or to replace an existing stake)

grim tiger
#

i'll make the visual in a moment

clear hare
#

I want the stakes to be semi-balanced at least, especially since they're actually ending up to be really high quality ideas

grim tiger
#

god bless aseprite for being able to color pick transparency

#

🫡

clear hare
#

I think I'll replace topaz stake with that, it feels like a relatively boring econ stake

grim tiger
#

oh wow it actually looks good with the shader

clear hare
#

shiny shader makes everything look good

grim tiger
#

glass cards having a gradient is insane, why does thunk love gradients so much

#

need feedback, i don't think this is final i'd just like opinions on it

lime inlet
#

Augere:
Values on chip/mult Jokers increase by 15% every ante

#

what about 3 new vouchers that deal with Jokers and Consumables being able to be placed in each other's slots

grim tiger
#

should be done i think, transparency is so messy to work with as someone with no idea what they're doing

clear hare
#

let me see how it looks in-game

grim tiger
#

😨

#

i put a background behind it a couple times to make sure nothing was too terrible but i have no idea what its gonna look like in game

clear hare
#

some of the later stakes had slight transparency and ended up looking fine so let's see how this goes

grim tiger
#

looks fine?

clear hare
#

yeah it works

#

let me try it with shiny now

#

I think that will help

grim tiger
clear hare
#

you don't even really notice shiny

#

I'll still keep that on though

#

I guess

grim tiger
#

too transparent i guess, i don't wanna mess with that rn though

clear hare
#

it looks great

grim tiger
#

nice

clear hare
#

got deck shaders working for the edition decks

#

messing with these shader effects is fun

#

Talisman Deck looks really cool

rigid obsidian
#

cool

#

dont forget the stickered decks, lol

#

esp perishable thats a fun one

clear hare
#

👍

cold sandal
#

If you think about it

#

Trance deck would be op

#

Especially with High Card or something

clear hare
#

same for talisman deck

cold sandal
#

Especially with Universum

clear hare
#

honestly all the seal decks are busted

cold sandal
#

Universum turns Trance Deck into Naninf deck

cold sandal
#

Chat Math is catching up

#

Gotta give more suggestions hold on

#

Stardust {Uncommon}:
Polychrome cards and Jokers give 3x mult

clear hare
#

I might just delay the sticker decks for now

#

there's this dumb bug where if I hover over any cards it crashes and I can't figure out why

#

not to mention the cards aren't initialized properly

grim tiger
clear hare
#

wait I think I know why

#

that's rly stupid of me

vestal seal
clear hare
#

that's me when I speedrun

cold sandal
#

Meteor Shower {Uncommon}:
Foil cards and Jokers give +150 chips

clear hare
#

the issue was I wasn't setting the right arguments for set_eternal/perishable/rental

cold sandal
#

Exoplanet {Uncommon}:
Holographic cards and Jokers give +30 mult

#

The Void {Rare}:
Negative Jokers and Consumables give +2 slots

clear hare
#

I actually wonder if this deck is beatable

cold sandal
#

There's four jokers that boost editions

#

Oh golly gee

#

Looks like fun

clear hare
#

you'd need immolate from a skip tag into an econ joker just to survive

cold sandal
#

Or find an Empowered Tag

clear hare
#

also we have 19 decks now

#

from very fair as well as enhancements/editions/seals/stickers

cold sandal
#

Can't wait for Banana deck

clear hare
rigid obsidian
#

negative deck would probably be the best one tbh

clear hare
#

once negative on playing cards is implemented...

rigid obsidian
#

in theory it should be as simple as context.held if card == negative then +1 hand size or something like that

#

i havent been able to code mods lately and 1.0.0 is soon so idk the exact syntax but that should work

clear hare
#

which makes it more complex

#

I can try implementing it later but I'm going to release the first demo and call it a night after I fix a critical bug with stickers on playing cards and tarots that change enhancements

#

ok, fixed it

vestal seal
#

how do you just fix bugs

#

oh wait i'm stupid nvm

clear hare
#

so this bug happened because when a card gets a new enhancement it completely overwrites self.ability, which is also where the sticker info is saved

#

so I just made a patch to the code so it... wouldn't do that (for eternal, perishable, and rental)

vestal seal
#

nice, i would play if i was on 1.0.0

cold sandal
#

Now it's time to wait for (Insert Streamer Here) to play

grim tiger
#

murphyobv

#

we love a good murph mod monday

verbal bay
#

hmmm how do you install 1.0.0?

grim tiger
#

the only method is to use lovely to install it the same way you'd install a mod

verbal bay
#

ok thanks!

verbal bay
#

hmm can't get it to work, too bad :(

lime inlet
#

line 34 trigerred

#

Rare, Legendary, and Exotic Jokers each give X2, X5, and X20 Mult respectively
Circus reformat attempt

fading maple
clear hare
#

I think I was at like -30? lol

weak burrow
#

honestly i think rental playing cards shouldnt be a thing

#

itll just keep draining money from you

brave ibex
#

Maybe only if held in hand then

weak burrow
#

thats still 24 per round

brave ibex
#

Not if you play cards

#

Plus not every card is going to be a rental

clear hare
#

And yeah you have to buy rentals from standard packs anyway

#

It matters more for things like holding consumables or using standard packs for hologram

#

It’s risk/reward because if you have rental cards you need to discard or play them to not pay the fee

#

So getting too many may be problematic

thin sigil
#

Idea: having 5 (or whatever) number of total cat tags gives you the Bastet Tag, which gives you a gauranteed The Soul in the next pack youo open

#

So it's like blank voucher

restive narwhal
#

I want to propose a submission for a name for the unnamed joker, maybe it could be called the Pied Piper?
(this is refering to line 62)

cloud granite
#

MathIsFun, can we write our suggestions in the table or do you fill them yourself?

clear hare
#

I fill them myself

cloud granite
#

Ok, thanks

clear hare
#

I’m going to add a suggestion box soon I’ve just been forgetting about it lol

#

But you can make a comment on the table for now

cloud granite
#

Just got an idea:
Eternity spectral card: -1 ante, make random joker eternal.

native lotus
#

we kinda already have a spectral card that makes a joker eternal

cloud granite
#

I don't think there can be only one
Also can make it like this: -1 ante, make all jokers eternal. Can't be used if all jokers are already eternal.

native lotus
#

yeah that could work

#

what if

#

unnamed:
rare
pick an eternal joker to remove

cloud granite
#

Rare joker? How do you use it?

native lotus
#

good question, i just couldn't figure out how to make it a consumable

cloud granite
#

Make it a spectral lol
Rebirth: Select a joker, remove any stickers from it.

cloud granite
#

Maybe rename one of them?

#

Also another joker idea:
Ascension (Rare): After 20 rounds, sell this card to turn the joker to the right into a random exotic joker. (Doesn't work if it's the rightmost joker)

clear hare
cloud granite
#

Can you please send me a link? I can only find one with 0.9.8 as the latest version

cloud granite
#

Nevermind, I tried to inject it into an already modified exe file
This problem is more relevant

clear hare
#

Do you have nativefs installed?

brave ibex
#

Booster Joker balatrojoker first art

#

you guys think it's detailed enough/looks like a pack

dusty plover
#

i cant get the game to launch with the new demo installed

#

something doesn't work

brave ibex
dusty plover
#

trying to... install the mod??

brave ibex
#

no like where are you putting the files

dusty plover
#

in the cryptid folder

#

should i put the lovely.toml file in place of the regular one?

brave ibex
#

hmm i'm not sure then, i'm not a coder ☹️

#

try asking MathIsFun, they probably know what the issue is

lime inlet
#

oh yea did we even complete the keys

strange oxide
# cloud granite

this means steamodded didn't find its own location within 3 layers of depth, make sure you don't have two Steamodded folders nested inside each other

strange oxide
#

do you have the steamodded 1.0.0 alpha?

dusty plover
#

where can i find this version of steamodded

dusty plover
#

thank you

#

ok, after installing 1.0.0, i get this error, any ideas as to what this is?

strange oxide
#

toss whatever kind of lovely.toml file you have there

#

you don't need it

#

the patch files that need to be there are where they need to be in the repo

dusty plover
#

ahhhh i see

#

new error...

#

@strange oxide any idea as to what this one is

strange oxide
#

uh

#

i might need to see the file structure of your mods folder for that one

dusty plover
strange oxide
#

yeah most of these mods are not updated to 1.0 yet, the alpha breaks them

#

run a separate installation of the game or move them out of the way

dusty plover
#

alright

dusty plover
strange oxide
#

not sure then

clear hare
#

Make sure you removed the individual .lua files too if you haven’t

#

I also see an Items folder in the original image which looks like it’s from Cryptid

dusty plover
#

ok removing cryptid and putting in a different mod and now it just wont even mod the game in the first place

#

i fucked something up

#

might just reinstall everything

lime inlet
#

what if key of envy redeemed a random key on purchase

#

are keys supposed to be a permanent or temporary buff

#

im gonna assume keys are temporary or "this ante" type of thing

cold sandal
#

By the way it's worded, it seems like it's gonna be a permanent thing

#

The Yellow Key says "Gain $10 at the start of each ante"

lime inlet
#

lol i already did 6 key ideas

#

some are permanent but some are temporary too

#

wait

#

actually

brave ibex
#

Lucky Joker done, what you you guys think

lime inlet
#

why is the J hieroglyphic

brave ibex
#

lemme see

#

uhh i think it might be a discord compression thing

#

try downloading it and seeing if something is wrong

lime inlet
#

yup discord's fault

brave ibex
#

xd

#

This and booster joker done so far

#

gonna try and look for some more simpler ones to work on so we can get more jokers in balatrojoker

lime inlet
#

key


Redeemed Key: Gain the extra tiers of all future and currently owned Vouchers
Key of Wrath: All Jokers are enhanced, all Boss Blinds are Final Boss Blinds
Key of Envy: Redeem a random key at the start of each ante
Mirrored Key: All cards trigger from right to left
Patient Key: Double money if no money was spent the previous ante
Modified Key: Vanilla items are 5X less likely to spawn
Key of Equality: All cards have the same chance of appearing in shop, redeem all tiers up to Overstock Plus
Cheater's Key: At start of round, the 3 most played cards this run are drawn to hand
Mutated Key: After every played hand, convert leftmost played card into rightmost played card
Unstable Key: All owned items are randomized at start of ante, 0.1X blind requirements```
brave ibex
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looking through the sheet I can get negative joker done if anyone knows what the color shift is for negatives

lime inlet
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color shift?

brave ibex
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yeah

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from base to negative

lime inlet
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so inversed colors of base Joe(ker)

brave ibex
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I'm just gonna do a negitive jimbo but idk what the games does to the colors

lime inlet
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game keeps some of the og colors

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idk why

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they started doing that like 2nd demo

brave ibex
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yeah kinda weird

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I don't think it's directly an inversion

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cuz that's the result

lime inlet
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good enough

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ill try too look into how the game does it

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oh wait im dumb

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just screenshot the negative jimbo from the edition page in collections

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lmao

brave ibex
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I don't have balatro on pc 😔

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i'll for for it on the server actually

lime inlet
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me neither lol

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i play apk on my tablet

brave ibex
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Maybe i'll hold off on it for now

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alternatively if anyone has a sprite dm me xd

cold sandal
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It might be just a luminosity inversion but im not sure

lime inlet
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does this work
Gain one of every Consumable type when playing a hand before discarding. +1 consumable slot

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m

lime inlet
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ke


Redeemed Key: Gain the extra tiers of all future and currently owned Vouchers
Key of Wrath: All Jokers are enhanced, all Boss Blinds are Final Boss Blinds
Key of Envy: Redeem a random key at the start of each ante
Key of Pride: X2 blind requirements, all sources of money give +$1 at end of round
Key of Greed: Loss of money from purchases apply at start of next ante
Mirrored Key: All cards trigger from right to left
Patient Key: Double money if no money was spent the previous ante
Modified Key: Vanilla items are 5X less likely to spawn
Key of Equality: All cards have the same chance of appearing in shop, redeem all tiers up to Overstock Plus
Cheater's Key: At start of round, draw the 3 most played cards this run to hand
Mutated Key: After every played hand, convert leftmost played card into rightmost played card
Unstable Key: All owned items are randomized at start of ante, 0.1X blind requirements
Unnamed Key: Unusable? (Yea)
Key of Acceptance: Gain one of every Consumable type when playing a hand before discarding. +1 consumable slot
Confused Key: -1 hand and -2 discards per round, multiple enhancements can stack```
brave ibex
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are these consumeables?

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I might do them all if that's the case

lime inlet
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the keys

brave ibex
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yeah i was referring to those

lime inlet
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then yuh

brave ibex
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ooh

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what is the consumable sprite size

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is it the same as jokers?

lime inlet
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i have 0 idea

brave ibex
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yeah I'm gonna assume it's the same size because I can't find anything that disproves that

cold sandal
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Theres a bunch of key sprites around here

brave ibex
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i might remake them entierly into consumables

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like the ones from planets/tarots