Cryptid - An unbalanced Balatro mod (1) [Old]

[mental tiger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0

[cold sandal]

Error (Kinda basic joker art)

Upscaled

[cold sandal]

Exotic Idea:

Speculo (Latin for Mirror (According to Google Translate))
Create a Negative Copy of a random joker at the end of shop. {This can copy itself}

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Lagging Deck: (Name stolen from here -> #⚙・modding-general message)
Delays the loss of money to the start of the next ante

for example if you have $4 and lose $20 over the next ante you'll lose $20 when the next ante starts

[clear hare]

• Buys everything Ante 1
• Becomes $1,000,000 in debt

Seems good for this mod tbh

[lime inlet]

we have 1 in 10 chance for e100 mult so it's fine

maybe there'd be a counter showing how much money you are gonna be at when the next ante starts

[clear hare]

For sure

I’ll probably add a -$123 to the UI below the money for that deck

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also am i wrong or is there a bankruptcy limit

[clear hare]

Yes

But things like The Tooth set your money below that

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Joker Idea:
Each card held in hand has a 1 in 2 chance of turning into the lefmost card

[clear hare]

finished porting everything over to Steamodded, time to add new stuff

[clear hare]

could also be credit card deck maybe now that I'm thinking about it

I just realized Show Stopper is too similar to Vermillion Virus

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just realized how there has to be some boundaries to repetere

[clear hare]

that comes from the implementation

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k

[clear hare]

XChips looks so cursed

I also need to tweak the description by just copying Observatory

yeah, this works...

now to figure out the midground thing

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oh yea for the unamed uncommon ill just name it "Consume-able"

can you tell im very creative

[clear hare]

that's a fun name

[lime inlet]

randomly just thought of the art being jimbos mouth wide open with some tarots/planets in his mouth

[clear hare]

my joker has 3 layers

it's also really bad

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what is that

[clear hare]

this

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o

[cold sandal]

Was thinking of names for these...

One of them could potentially be called Superstition but idk

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could the 2nd one be called "Conspiracy" idk

[clear hare]

maybe

I like the theme

Conspiracy for Tarots and Superstition for Spectrals?

Then what about level 3

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idk taboo

[cold sandal]

Don''t read number 7

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Urban Legend goes hard

tf is number 12

[clear hare]

I'll ship that for now

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Urban Legend?

[clear hare]

ye

also (screwed up chips, I already fixed it)

oh and also dont upgrade a planet card after selling universum

I should fix that too

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Deck of Equilibrium: All Jokers have the same chance of appearing in shop

I should start a "Deck of" series

[clear hare]

the arm is so brutal

the only thing missing from this joker now is that planet descriptions aren't updated

[lime inlet]

Joker idea:
Gain 0.25X mult per card that hasn't been played nor discarded at the end of each round

im starting to realize you don't use "the" very often math

[clear hare]

for it being a word that happens to be most commonly used, that's an interesting coincidence

[lime inlet]

"At start of each round" sounds like you're deliberately not using "the"

[clear hare]

I'm mainly trying to word thin

good thing I'm testing my code out because I forgot to account for face down cards

I'm breaking the UI!

[lime inlet]

lmao

[clear hare]

went through a run with this joker and can confirm it is busted

[lime inlet]

i think you might need to limit the digits for it lol

[clear hare]

I could nerf it to X2 or something maybe

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counterpoint: it's an exotic

[clear hare]

two planet levels is a free win, we need that to be at least like five

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k

u-du-u

(someone actually typed this to me)

[clear hare]

u2u

(2 = do)

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lolol

is Equal-Footing and Deck of Equilibrium kinda the same or not?

[clear hare]

they are the same

lmao

except just for shops

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i choose equal footing to be erased

[clear hare]

imagine getting exotics in shop on that deck

[lime inlet]

lmao

I was thinking of buffing Cheater's deck but i forgor

oh yea it was starting with extra Aces I think

[clear hare]

aces instead of face cards?

[lime inlet]

sure ig

congrats we made a busted deck

[clear hare]

W

anyway I'm going to head out now, let me just post the github since I updated it

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wait isn't Cheater's Deck just Abandoned Deck but way better

[clear hare]

ye

that deck's gimmick is busted by itself imo

[lime inlet]

here me out
a deck that gives an insane buff but every boss blind is a final boss blind

[clear hare]

all shop jokers are enhanced?

[lime inlet]

how did we both think of that

[clear hare]

(includes increasing negative rate)

[lime inlet]

lmao

[clear hare]

lmao

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also for buffing deck of equilibrium

all enhancements have the same odds

[clear hare]

for that one I'd honestly start with overstock plus

that way you can find more rares/legendaries/exotics

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imagine all spectrals had the same odds

[clear hare]

fun fact: the code has The Soul and Black Hole in the same pool as spectrals, but manually ignores them and treats them separately

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lol

[clear hare]

I'll call it Showdown Deck for now

anyway, gonna head out

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k

wait what happened to the names

oh problem on my end

mb

[clear hare]

https://github.com/mathisfun0/cryptid
Here's the GitHub page - note that to play with Iterum and Universum you'll need to spawn them in with the debug menu

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should we introduce the concept of "upgraded" jokers cause i have some ideas

actually one of them can just be included into DoEquilibrium

I wanna buff DoE a lot lmao

"All Jokers, Vouchers, Editions, and Boss Blinds have the same chance of appearing"

idk how to format

[thin sigil]

By upgraded, you don't mean editions correct?

[lime inlet]

yea

[thin sigil]

Give us an example

[cloud granite]

Universum description says that planets give x2 to chips and mults of their hand, but it's still x5

[lime inlet]

the X2 wasn't implemented until right after the launch

[native lotus]

That looks so cursed xd

[clear hare]

I think I hardcoded that without realizing lol

[cloud granite]

Also the game crashed when I tried to play a facedown hand (it was the one I upgraded if that matters)

[clear hare]

Thought I fixed that, thanks for catching that edge case

[cloud granite]

By the way, I use this joker by making a custom deck via Deck Creator mod and every second time a deck is mentioned it is displayed as red deck with ERROR name and empty description (I made it with a different name, description and cover), if I try to start or continue a run with ERROR deck it crashes the game, and the joker's rarity is ERROR, do you know why the deck problem may happen and is the joker rarity supposed to be ERROR?

[clear hare]

It could be an issue with how the rarity is initialized in-game.
It’s a string value internally (others are numbers) so may not play nicely with Deck Creator

I can try making it a number value as an attempt to fix it, although because I don’t know much about about Deck Creator’s internals I have no clue if that’ll fix the problem

[clear hare]

OK I tried and I couldn't reproduce your issue with Deck Creator (I fixed the other errors)

That mod is bugged in the beta branch apparently so that might be the cause of the issue

[cloud granite]

Well, I am playing experimental, so maybe

[clear hare]

Wait it still works in the beta

Hmm

[cloud granite]

I have other mods installed, can it be their issue?

[clear hare]

Maybe

[cloud granite]

Should I list them?

[clear hare]

If there’s other mods that add rarities maybe that is affecting Cryptid

[cloud granite]

No, I don't have those that add new rarities

[clear hare]

Sure, although the issue is probably not caused by Cryptid (by itself, at least)

[cloud granite]

Oh, I forgot, there is one, Fusion Jokers

[clear hare]

Working on a way to get Exotics without cheagting

[clear hare]

I have Gateway working now. The art is temporary though

Should be on the GitHub now, just made sure the spawn rates were working correctly

[cloud granite]

If anybody wondered, with x5 on Universum, you need 441 levels to make a Pair score inf x inf. Other hands probably require the same or 1 less

[clear hare]

X2 will make it about 1024

[clear hare]

good to know this doesn't crash it :)

[cloud granite]

I got a few more levels after that and stopped playing. I continued the run now and adding a level does crash :(

[clear hare]

Savescumming with inf values turns them into nil values

I recall this happening when I was trying to set other things to inf way back in the demo

[cloud granite]

Oh, right

[clear hare]

When I work on Cryptid next I’ll fix this

[cloud granite]

Well, there isn't much reason to fix it, if you got to inf score, than you won whatever the game can give you until ante 39, there isn't really a reason to keep playing

[native lotus]

wip, well 1/3 done

trying to fix my oopsie daisy that is iterum

2/3 done

aaaand done

praying it looks ood

good

[weak burrow]

What's the final image though

[native lotus]

._.

like

yknow how legendary jokers are like, layered

so all of those are layers

[native lotus]

this as an example

[clear hare]

I’ll try this out when I get home

[native lotus]

Aaaalrighty

[lone tiger]

really small suggestion, but uncap hermit/economy tag money doubling?

[clear hare]

Maybe

The question is a matter of if we want Cryptid to affect some vanilla cards’ soft caps

[weak burrow]

Add a busted hermit tarot

[clear hare]

sets money to naneinf

alr let's see if Iterum looks good with the effect

it's pretty good but I think the border repeated 3 times makes it a bit busy

I could try making the extra layer the one that's on top and then making that one not shift at all

and only removing the border for the layer with the symbol in the center

[native lotus]

ayyyy les go

now the fuck do i do next :P

[clear hare]

I fixed it up

just made a few small changes to reduce the clutter

[weak burrow]

I honestly think it would look better with 2 layers

[clear hare]

also I think this might be a Steamodded issue but perishable and rental stickers don't show their descriptions when on a modded joker

the way I coded it, I made the foreground more like a card sleeve

so only the symbol in the middle rotates around like the legendary jokers

[native lotus]

ooh thats neat

[clear hare]

let me try sending a quick video of it in-game

[native lotus]

oh btw, as like the op of this post(ig) can you like pin stuff, if so just pinning the google doc would be much easier than just reposting it every couple days

[clear hare]

no, you need to ping a mod to do that

[vestal seal]

remux your recordings

[native lotus]

damn 😔😔

[clear hare]

discord not showing MKV files is sad

[vestal seal]

luckily theres a convenient obs button that converts them

[clear hare]

actual life saver, ty

[native lotus]

oh yeah thats nice

[clear hare]

there's probably more that can be explored with the card sleeve aesthetic but it looks rly nice

[native lotus]

i had that rotating symbol in my head since i known of that bloody joker and im so happy that i finnaly did it justice

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m

[lime inlet]

i need a "good" alternative to obs for short recordings

im very sad

[subtle nova]

I honestly just use obs for short recordings

[clear hare]

I used OBS for this

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ik

[subtle nova]

If you're on windows, sharex maybe can do video

[cold sandal]

The Unjust Dagger

Upscaled

Looks familiar

[cold sandal]

And here's a boss blind for the road:

The Clock
0x base, increases its requirement by .1x every 2 seconds spent on the Ante.

[mental tiger]

ooo i like that

maybe not for the whole ante tho

[clear hare]

Fullskip exists

It’s either you speedrun beating the boss or you rely on having a really strong build

I love this idea

[lime inlet]

isn't it 1x base cause 0x means forever 0

[clear hare]

+0.1x though

Starting at 1x would be cruel lol

I like the idea that you can beat it in like 10 seconds if you’re scared

[lime inlet]

my dumbass would purposefully wait until it hit nan

someone do the calc on that

[clear hare]

Youll need ante 38 to have any chance at that

[cold sandal]

Final boss blind idea (Definitely not just a harder clock)

Don't have a name so ima temporarily call it...

Slightly more difficult clock

1x base, Blind requirement is multiplied by 1.25x every 1.5 seconds spent on the ante

Definitely not half based off a certain misinterpretation of the Clock

[clear hare]

Lavender Loop?

Because it’s like a feedback loop

[mental tiger]

sounds good to me

[cold sandal]

Sure

[vestal seal]

multiplicative?

[cold sandal]

Yes

[vestal seal]

oh thats mean. i like it

[cold sandal]

After only 4.5 seconds its at (basically) 2x

15 seconds makes it ~9.3x

[mental tiger]

maybe that should be just for the boss round itself them

[cold sandal]

Not entirely sure if the calculations I put in are correct (I'm pretty sure they are though) but I made a graph to easily test universum numbers: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/qvsh6nnxyn

Also new deck idea:

Scaling Deck
Start the run with 3 eternal scaling jokers. +1 joker slot. Deck starts with only five Polychrome Lucky Red Seal 2s of Spades.

Either that or split the deck composition part into its own deck

[clear hare]

Looks good, but the way I programmed it Universum only applies Xmult, not the +mult (save for chips)

[cold sandal]

ah

I think I fixed it now https://www.desmos.com/calculator/yqw2ypl9bg

[clear hare]

Same for chips

I typed save by accident lol

[lime inlet]

can DoE get buffed just slightly more

(and technically nerfed)

[clear hare]

what's your idea?

[lime inlet]

hold up

#1219749193204371456 message

that basically

[clear hare]

"All items have the same chance of appearing"

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i wouldn't call boss blinds an item tho

[clear hare]

the blinds are already equal chance anyway

[lime inlet]

i meant final boss blinds too

lol

[thin sigil]

by the way, what do you mean by enhanced

are they ramdom enhancements

@lime inlet

Idea: The Redo => The Memory

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like editions

[thin sigil]

oh

oka

[native lotus]

working on universum, almost got it finished

(yes this is a cope cuz i can not make a galaxy for shit)

[clear hare]

looks rly nice, won’t be home for a bit but when I get back I’ll try putting this in the game

[native lotus]

Aaalrighty

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m

[cold sandal]

I made this but I have no idea what it'd be used for, feel free to use it as a placeholder for something (Originally I was making something for 2d but it doesn't look great)

[cold sandal]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/gbydixffpw

Also i fixed the graph for real this time

[clear hare]

I might take a short break from Cryptid after I add the texture for Universum, so there’s less to refactor when Steamodded 1.0 releases

[native lotus]

aalrighty

[lime inlet]

thought of an idea for a karmic deck but idk the exact effect

[cold sandal]

Conveyor Deck:
After every shop, destroy the right most joker and duplicate the left most joker. Jokers can't be moved. All jokers will start on the very left of your jokers when obtained in any way.

Also since it feels like a net negative in terms of effects, all blinds are reduced to 66.66% or something idk

Im just gonna drop a bunch of decks now

Consistent Deck:
Everything that would target randomly can now be controlled, all chance cards will now happen the exact amount they're supposed to (ex. Bloodstone would no longer be "Played hearts have a 1/2 chance to give 1.5x mult" but instead "Played hearts give 1.5x mult every 2 triggers", 6s would just half the timer)

Shapeshifting Deck:
After every played hand, convert the leftmost played card into the rightmost played card.

Ticket Deck:
Start with every voucher (This one's kind of a joke)

Deck I don't have a name for:
Double the blind reward money, but all tarots and planets not found in boosters cost 1.5x the original price. Clearance Sale and Liquidation can't spawn.

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Chaotic Deck
All owned items are randomized at the start of the next ante

Deck of Spirituality:
Start with a Spiritual Cleanse, every shop will contain at least one spectral pack

[native lotus]

Deck:
permament showman effect
(thats basicly it)

also ig showman gives 2x mult cuz why tf not might as well do something

[cloud granite]

Or just start with eternal negative showman with no sell value

[native lotus]

Or that too

[lusty fjord]

or make showman give an increased chance to find duplicate jokers

[native lotus]

That could lead to a showman only trap which wouldn’t be great

[silver cobalt]

I think eternal negative showman would be the best

And it can keep its sell value because why not

[clear hare]

Cursed exotic idea:
X2 ante if score beats the blind, squares mult

[native lotus]

thats cursed

i love it

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Redeo(go back):
-1 ante for every $100 spent on Jokers

[native lotus]

I just had an idea

[deck name here]:

-2 discards

-1 hands

Allows you to stack card modifications

As in

Double stone gold card

Quad steel double blue seal polychrome, foil

Shit like that

[clear hare]

can't wait to get DNA with my 10x red seal 10x glass card

[native lotus]

I mean

It would be silly

[clear hare]

silly is good

[native lotus]

Exactly

We are going for game breaking stuff here after all

This idea came to me when I saw a lucky red seal seven get imolated in a balatro university video

Also

Lucky joker, common:

Gives 5$ when a lucky card hits

[lime inlet]

nah how about when it doesn't hit

[clear hare]

unlucky joker

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Deck of [idk]

[native lotus]

Pretty much

That would be a silly name

[lime inlet]

the Deck of series goes hard

[native lotus]

Deck of idk goes harder

[lime inlet]

even if it's literally one rn

Deck of Modding?

[native lotus]

Could be

[lime inlet]

wait that can be used for something else

[native lotus]

Still deck of idk is baller imo

Since it’s pretty much broken why not make it even more silly

[lime inlet]

Deck of Modifications sounds cool

[clear hare]

Deck of Modding:
vanilla items are 5x less likely to spawn

[lime inlet]

noice

Deck of Decks:
Deck changes at the start of each ante

[cold sandal]

Cryptic Deck:
Only Jokers, consumables, and vouchers from the Cryptid Mod can appear

Just a more extreme deck of modding

[lime inlet]

@clear hare is it possible for decks to be purchaseable from the shop

[clear hare]

Probably

Someone did that with tags

[cloud granite]

Well, tags is something you get during the run, decks are only selectable before the run starts, so I think no

[clear hare]

you could apply certain deck effects mid-run, but not all

you might be able to make an item type that pretty much does the deck effect

I'll call them keys for now because that sounds cool

[lime inlet]

i forgot stakes existed ngl

[clear hare]

Keys (remove applied deck or key effect when used, if applicable)
Red Key - gain +1 discard every round
Blue Key - gain +1 hand every round
Yellow Key - gain $10 at the beginning of each ante

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rainbow stake:
double the effect of all previous stakes

[clear hare]

Green Key - earn no interest, at end of round gain $2 per remaining hand, $1 per remaining discard
Black Key - gain +1 joker slot, -1 hand every round
Magic Key - gain +1 consumable slot, spawn two copies of The Fool
Nebula Key - redeem Telescope voucher, -1 consumable slot

Ghost Key - Spectral cards may appear in the shop, spawn Hex
Abandoned Key - destroy all face cards in the deck
Checkered Key - convert all diamond cards to hearts, all club cards to spades
Zodiac Key - +1 card slot available in shop, tarot and planet cards appear x2 more often in the shop

[lime inlet]

so we have a new item type now?

[clear hare]

Painted Key - permanently gain +2 hand size, -1 joker slot
Anaglyph Key - when Boss Blind defeated, gain a Double Tag
Plasma Key - X2 base blind size, balance Chips and Mult after scoring
Erratic Key - randomize ranks and suits of all cards in deck

[clear hare]

sure

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Deck of Decks -> Deck of Unlocking

[clear hare]

and for related vouchers:
Lv 1: keys may appear in the shop for vanilla decks
Lv 2: keys may appear in the shop for cryptid decks
Lv 3: keys can be redeemed multiple times

[lime inlet]

Locksmith, Unlocker, idk

are keys gonna be consumables?

[clear hare]

they'll be instant use I think

like vouchers

let me update the spreadsheet now before I forget

[lime inlet]

has anyone even attempted time based boss blinds

[clear hare]

i don't think so

there's time based jokers though

[lime inlet]

is it just me or some of these look kinda the same

like DoS and Ringmaster Deck

Deck of IDK is comfirmed lmao

[clear hare]

oh I meant showman

lmao

[lime inlet]

deck combining

i still need to brainstorm a karmic deck or Deck of Karma whatever i choose

maybe you gain rewards based on how little you spend and vice versa

[clear hare]

doubles money if $0 spent this ante

[lime inlet]

nice

also i choose Deck of Karma

gotta make the Deck of series a reality

oh shit

i can make a Deck of [sin] series

that'd actually go hard

hold up

revamp Deck of Karma into Deck of Greed maybe idk

[clear hare]

that would be fire

i'm going to get the universum sprite in-game while you cook

[lime inlet]

lol

Deck of Gluttony can be like summon an eternal negative food Joker that changes into another food Joker when sold/eaten/destroyed

[clear hare]

iterum and universum in-game

[lime inlet]

noice

[clear hare]

final card art (I fixed up the layering a bit)

[lime inlet]

should i add the heavemly virtues as well

[clear hare]

why not

[lime inlet]

even though i can barely think of other stuff

it's really hard to think about these

[clear hare]

when you have ideas just send them here

[lime inlet]

i sent 1 rn

[clear hare]

poly and negative universum look really good somehow

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nega universe

[clear hare]

added another joker

the lack of the usual border is kinda bothering me tbh

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can this combo with parei

so everything is a king

[clear hare]

but the effect and art is cool

pareidolia doesn't change the ranks around though

[hazy slate]

Reminds me of Gold's rainbow cards enhancement

[clear hare]

gold drew the art for this too!

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Deck of Gluttony: Start with an Eternal Negative Food Joker. If the Joker is destroyed/eaten replace it with another Food Joker

i think this is a good way to format it

[clear hare]

Diet Cola

[hazy slate]

ah makes sense

def did a good job

[lime inlet]

ill remove the eternal part maybe

so it can be destroyed

or just remove stuff like cola from it

[clear hare]

it completely screws up deck view btw

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yay

[hazy slate]

aces are just too good for everybody else, lol

[clear hare]

imagine getting maximized on an aces build

let me try this in a random seed run and see how it goes

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Deck of Gluttony: Start with an Perishable Negative Food Joker. If the Joker is disabled/eaten replace it with another Food Joker

[clear hare]

(with spawning Maximized)

[lime inlet]

this might fix it

also no selling won't regrow the joker

[clear hare]

except for cola

[lime inlet]

you can wait for it to be disabled via perishable or sell it

[clear hare]

also the code for rank manip is so simple and elegant

localthunk came prepared to make a nice helper function for modders

this definitely isn't the most powerful rare joker ever

[lime inlet]

i might need help brainstorming for the Deck of sin stuff

[hazy slate]

turning all flushes without face cards into flush 5s is not busted at all 😛

and most of the others into flush houses

[lime inlet]

maybe showdown deck can turn into Deck of Wrath

Deck of Sloth can set the win ant to 16 or something

[clear hare]

this looks so cursed

straight flush becoming a flush five

[hazy slate]

look at you trying to balance an intentionally unbalanced mod 😛

[lime inlet]

actually it can slow the ante scaling but set the win ante to 30 to make the player suffer

[hazy slate]

also ick, I forgot that discord emojifies emoticons like that, lol

Telegram does too, but you can turn it off, and it shows in the textbox so you can undo the replacement by backspacing

[clear hare]

you can turn it off on discord too :)

[hazy slate]

there we go :P

[lime inlet]

:)

[hazy slate]

thank you :3 (<- the reason I didn't really notice because I'm so naturally cringe that ":3" is the main emoticon I use)

[cold sandal]

Just curious: Which joker do you think will take the longest to code?

[lime inlet]

Deck of Sloth: Required score scales slower for each ante, win ante is set to ante 30

think this good?

[clear hare]

sure

[clear hare]

hmm

Repetere probably

[lime inlet]

i once suggested repetere and it was a very long conversation about what would and wouldn't work

also how tf do i put lust into a deck

[clear hare]

rescribere might be annoying

[clear hare]

oh yeah I also got two flush five orbital tags this run

it was like it was intended

[subtle nova]

abandoned deck users when they get this joker

[lime inlet]

walkie talkie intensifies

[cold sandal]

Popping this here again https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0

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m

[thin sigil]

n

[lime inlet]

can u help with brainstorming

[weak burrow]

Imagine giving maximized hearts suit too

Since that's the strongest suit in balatro

[cloud granite]

I read some stuff here and have a question about Cryptid deck - does it prevent Lacatan from appearing since you can't get Cavendish?

[clear hare]

It would

[weak burrow]

also isnt sync catalyst and the plasma key basically the same thing?

[clear hare]

Sync catalyst applies when triggered, plasma key applies after scoring

Two ways to do something similar

[lime inlet]

@clear hare how are u not dead(asleep) yet

[clear hare]

It’s 7am here

I woke up recently

[lime inlet]

it's 4 am for me :)

[clear hare]

[lime inlet]

was boutta pass out

then i realized

rn i got Deck of Greed, Gluttony, and Sloth

Wrath is the next easiest one

Lust is gonna be a stretch and a half(or just heart related)

[clear hare]

Full deck of Hearts

[lime inlet]

hold up gotta search up lust for some ideas rq

(i gotta clear my history)

the past 20 searches are related to sins

[weak burrow]

Now that you woke up go do God seed v2

[thin sigil]

sorry, didn't look at discord

[lime inlet]

lol

[thin sigil]

were there any updates

on the doc

[weak burrow]

from when i last checked he added decks and keys

which keys are basically the deck effects

[thin sigil]

do we have names for keys

[weak burrow]

probably just the deck name

like plasma key for example

[thin sigil]

makes sense

if we have a deck of greed and gluttony, lust and wrath should be ones as well

Idk if this would be possible but

Reference Deck: you can see the score your selected hand would get

[native lotus]

the dock has 112 rows wtf

[weak burrow]

you mean the doc

a dock is an area of water in a port that can be closed off and that is used for putting goods onto and taking them off ships or repairing ships

[native lotus]

shut

:3

[weak burrow]

[lime inlet]

im theorizing a Deck of Wrath rn

[clear hare]

I feel like we might need more programmers to get that done in a reasonable amount of time

[lime inlet]

Deck of Lust/Envy is too hard for me

[clear hare]

Loving all the ideas though

[lime inlet]

actually

lust just means a strong desire for something so

maybe a strong desire to win idk

[clear hare]

Maybe you gain joker slots when you add hearts to your deck?

[lime inlet]

everything gets better if you gain hearts

also u put in Sloth yet?

[clear hare]

Let me add that now

Changed win ante to 32 so it follows the current trend of the game

[lime inlet]

k

what would the score for a32 look like

[clear hare]

If it’s e100 normally then it would be like e50? idk what it is normally though

Ante 24 might be better

[lime inlet]

Scaling Deck makes all scaling jokers faster but antes scale more

just thought of that on the spot

[clear hare]

Doubles all values on jokers

[native lotus]

that sounds nice

[clear hare]

Will probably use this because it’s like that but even more extreme

[clear hare]

I think there’s a legendary in another mod that does this but as a deck it’s a significantly different idea

[lime inlet]

dagonet ye

what if the deck made all scaling jokers scale exponentially

[weak burrow]

bout to get e10 chips from scholar

[clear hare]

Imagine this with X3 ante scaling

The final boss is e15

Actually probably more like e12

[native lotus]

ive been obsesing over the idea since i saw the painting in person but "stańczyk" as a legendary joker would be awesome, dunno what he would do tho

[clear hare]

There’s already a mod with a Stanczyk legendary

[weak burrow]

indeed

https://i.imgur.com/20UWiFV.png

although it feels like a more tame legendary

[clear hare]

We have enhancement stacking at home:

[weak burrow]

although cicero is one of the legendary jokers i did end up liking

its busted for util

[lime inlet]

what's cicero again?

[weak burrow]

negative for cards that dont give chips/mult/retrigger

aka money/util jokers

[native lotus]

damn

happy :)

[native lotus]

ok so

since we already went slightly in the direction of the bible with the decks, why not have 4 legendary jokers that would be horsemen of apocalypse

[native lotus]

ANYWAY, THIS IS THE DUMBEST SHIT IVE EVER MADE

oops

caps

idk where the joker text disappered give me a sec

there it is

[weak burrow]

what joker is this art for?

[lime inlet]

Pot of Jokes im guessing

[native lotus]

ye

[weak burrow]

ah nice

[lime inlet]

i was wondering why pot of jokes was rare then i realized it outscales bean in literally 2 rounds

[native lotus]

yea..

[lime inlet]

someone should make Jo-cain

(for funsies)

[mental tiger]

woah that's really cool

[lime inlet]

@clear hare you think the vouchers are the easiest things to code in rn?

[clear hare]

Some will be easy, some not so much

Also displaying a third tier might be hard, I know there’s a WIP Tier 3 voucher mod and they didn’t do that yet

[lime inlet]

i think conspiracy and the others can be implemented somewhat easily

i've already made tarots target extra cards(for some reason it's in the save files)

[clear hare]

Yeah, those are just numbers pretty much

That you can change

[lime inlet]

Deck of Wrath can be something liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike

idk

my neurons are getting an E+ rn

[clear hare]

Higher ante scaling for increased luck?

Where like rare/uncommons are more likely to spawn

[lime inlet]

it can also replace showdown deck maybe

[lime inlet]

Redeemed Deck
When a Voucher is redeemed, gain its upgraded tiers

[native lotus]

fellas

i had a wonderful idea

cube:
adds 6 chips

thats it

it just adds 6 chips

[weak burrow]

truly fits the theme thats for sure

truly unbalanced

[native lotus]

lowkey best joker in da game

[weak burrow]

agreed

[lime inlet]

m

[clear hare]

m

[lime inlet]

Pride might be the hardest to deckify imo

[native lotus]

just make it gay

[native lotus]

fuck it make it legendary

we gotta nerf something this op

[clear hare]

If we make it a legendary I have a funny idea

+(random from 1 to 1000) chips, always displays 6

[lime inlet]

Orthographiam:
All played cards give 1X mult for every letter in the card(enhancements and other stuff included)

fun fact the longest card you can have is a [Holographic Glass Purple Seal Queen of Diamonds]

which is 41 letters

[native lotus]

Ok what if we make it display 6 but it gives 7 🤯

[mental tiger]

ok i fixed the border

[native lotus]

Damn I wish my jokers looked this good 😔

Booster boker: +1 booster pack in the shop, uncommon

[mental tiger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0 link again

Are the exotic jokers gonna be similar in look to the legendaries?

[clear hare]

@mental tiger they're three-layered like this

and probably same for the Gateway spectral (when someone makes art for it)

[mental tiger]

okay

[thin sigil]

Deck of Lust: Get 8$ whenever you beat a blind with twice the score required
Deck of Wrath: Gain 3$ per card destroyed

Idk

[clear hare]

those feel more like jokers though is the issue

I think I'm going to stick with showdown deck becoming deck of wrath

also I found a way to make Cube an actual good idea

went back and got Pareidolia working properly with Maximized (and fixed the deck view issue too)

[cold sandal]

Oops! All 6s Kings!

[cold sandal]

[Enhancement Name Here] Deck

All the cards start as the enhancement listed in the deck name.
(I think that makes 7 in total)

[cold sandal]

I tried making something for gateway...

Idk how it turned out... Lemme know what you think

Heres an upscaled version without special layering stuff

[mental tiger]

Looks pretty darn good

[clear hare]

can confirm pot of jokes is absolutely busted

I also got into a baron/mime/perkeo build somehow

6.174e22

didn't even break a sweat

let me try setting up gateway

[hazy slate]

I think it looks really good ngl

[clear hare]

it looks sick, now just to get this in-game

hardest part is hardcoding Gateway to use the three-layer thing (The Soul is also hardcoded like that)

looks really good, just have to remove the outlines from the sprite with the hand

let me send a video, this looks rly cool now

[hazy slate]

I think the outlines look good ngl

[clear hare]

yeah, just had to move them around so they're not rotating with the hand

[hazy slate]

ah I see

[clear hare]

also the polychrome version of this looks like a fever dream

[vestal seal]

oh that looks REALLY cool

[clear hare]

foil actually looks centered too

negative is also pretty interesting

[cloud granite]

Stone deck pog

[clear hare]

this also applies to exotics (and maximized looks rly cool too)

[clear hare]

oh yeah, should we add any custom enhancements/tarots?

also steamodded 1.0.0 alpha is out, would I be crazy to try refactoring now?

I just might be crazy enough to try

[vestal seal]

wait what

[clear hare]

it's on the github

it also has a syntax error

Aure forgot a comma

don't worry this is why I have direct commit access to Steamodded

[lime inlet]

will the cryptid decks have their key counterparts or just vanilla

also you might wanna add in the keys so u don't forget

[mental tiger]

Maybe pot of jokes should start at -2 hand size because it is only a rare, and it would still be extremely good

[lime inlet]

did you just try to balance

the unbalanced joker mod

[mental tiger]

I tried to make them equally unbalanced

[lime inlet]

m

[native lotus]

m

[lime inlet]

I think a Deck of Pride can be something like gives a huge reward at the end of a boss blind

[thin sigil]

Grabber coming to grab me

[thin sigil]

What about Deck of Prejudice

[native lotus]

wwhy does universum look so bad 😭😭

why do i have a permament skill issue when trying to do fuckin exotic jokerss

[thin sigil]

What does it look Like?

[lime inlet]

we're doing Deck of [sin]

also deck of prejudice is just no black cards

[thin sigil]

Was joke dont worry

[lime inlet]

imagine math just steals the code for the legacy blinds lmao

[thin sigil]

Bruh

I cant imagine him doing a thing like that

[lime inlet]

ll

o

[thin sigil]

Oll

What are we people goin to add next to the mod liat

List

[lime inlet]

idk

thought of a spectral idea

basically takes all the editions from your jokers and gives reward

[thin sigil]

vacuum?

[lime inlet]

s u c

sad my redeem deck hasn't been added yet

[thin sigil]

Who can add them anyway

[lime inlet]

only math

he's asleep rn

[thin sigil]

I forgor time zones

[lime inlet]

2:30 for me

[hazy slate]

same

[thin sigil]

Am or Pm

[hazy slate]

am for me at least

[lime inlet]

ante

[hazy slate]

I sleep during the day ngl. Not for any reason, I' m just nocturnal like a real raccoon :P

[lime inlet]

my sleep schedule changes every week

[thin sigil]

So you work on my schedule lol

[lime inlet]

sometimes nocturnal sometimes early morning

[thin sigil]

I know lol

[lime inlet]

i sleep when i sleep when i sleep when i sleep

[hazy slate]

definitely sometimes same for me, but it's pretty consistent atm

[hazy slate]

based

[thin sigil]

We shpuld get back to talkong cryptid

[hazy slate]

you type like me :P

[thin sigil]

Supernova: set all planet level to 1, level up your most played hand by 3 for each level downgraded (spectral)

[hazy slate]

but yeah, fair. I'm not really following the project tbh so I'll leave y'all to it

[thin sigil]

Ok

[native lotus]

ok so after like, counting and shit, the mod has 18 decks so far

i think the safest assumption is that its getting released earlies in 2025 lmfao

[thin sigil]

Analog: Duplicate a random joker twice, destroy all other jokers and skip an ante

[thin sigil]

I hope not

[native lotus]

to my awareness only math is doing programming so far so it seems like it

also, cube

[thin sigil]

Cube

[thin sigil]

(suga) cube

[native lotus]

no, just cube

[thin sigil]

Cube

[thin sigil]

Cube

Nice concept though

[native lotus]

its been created due to lots of brainrot

[thin sigil]

What do you meab by that

Minceraf?

[native lotus]

lowkey the idea came up to me when i was half asleep, and the idea was just, it gives 6 chips, its been refined by math

[thin sigil]

Lol

[native lotus]

it wwas like , what ifv 6 chimps

[thin sigil]

Ngl i would love 6 chimpanzees

[lime inlet]

amazing thing to come back to

[native lotus]

Chip

[clear hare]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re so old that it’s incompatible with 1.0.1 logic

[clear hare]

What was its effect again? There’s a deck on the sheet that redeems all level 1 vouchers

[lime inlet]

i was pretty surprised when your comment on the sheet said 8 am then i realized timezones

[lime inlet]

@clear hare #1219749193204371456 message
deck

[clear hare]

Added it

[lime inlet]

i couldn't tell lmao

The Rich:
Chips can't exceed current $

[lime inlet]

what would happen if you had multiple copies of findere(ante scaling -50%)

[clear hare]

they would stack

-75%, -87.5%, etc.

I'm going to be doing dynamic ante scaling anyway because there's a lot of ante scaling modifier ideas

[lime inlet]

i almost forgor whta i wanted to say lol

what if you had the english translations for the exotic names for convenience

[clear hare]

that would kill the vibe imo

[lime inlet]

fair

[clear hare]

the point is for them to sound mysterious

[lime inlet]

i finally have an idea for Deck of Envy

since envy means jealousy basically what if it was jealous of other decks

[cold sandal]

Joker Idea:
Scaling jokers also scale the amount they scale by each time they scale (Bad wording but fortune teller would be +1, +2, and after 5 tarots would give 15 mult)

[clear hare]

Scaling jokers scale quadratically

[clear hare]

For the enhancement decks it would be cool if they were named after their tarots
Like Devil’s Deck for Gold Cards, Deck of Justice for Glass Cards

[cold sandal]

I ran some probably over complicated calculations for Wee Joker with this, after 625 Wee Joker triggers it'll be giving 200000 chips

This is the equation I used if you're curious

[cold sandal]

Or if it goes by the base scaling value (+8 chips per 2 played per 2 played) You can get about 1000000 chips after 500 2s are triggered

[cold sandal]

People trying to choose what modded deck to use after getting the Cryptid Mod:

22 decks

actually

28 decks

[clear hare]

f in chat for the person trying to gold stake every modded deck

[native lotus]

I think the fact that there is so many ideas and we all agree they should be implemented is wonderful

Also I just wanna torture the person who will in the future want to 100% this

[lime inlet]

lol

[native lotus]

:)

[cold sandal]

actually actually i missed 3 because they werent in the spreadsheet (and havent been decided on what they do yet but thats besides the point for now)

[native lotus]

Lmfao

[cold sandal]

The other Deck of [Sin] decks

[native lotus]

So

[cold sandal]

31 decks

Probably with more to come

[lime inlet]

im still struggling on the other Deck of [sin] ones lmao

[native lotus]

Breadsticks: 5$ per round removes 1$ per round, pretty much money popcorn, common

[lime inlet]

Deck of Envy can replace Deck of Unlocking but it forcefully uses a key every ante

[native lotus]

Ig so

[cold sandal]

Deck of Pride (concept):
Double ante requirements. All sources of money give +1$ at the end of round

Deck of Lust (also concept):
Start with 4 sets of 13 6s, one set for each suit. Anything that happens to a card also happens to all other cards in the set. When adding a card, create a new set starting out as that card.

[fickle shadow]

A deck where you can spend limitlessly but every so many dollars of debt equates to negative mult

[lime inlet]

we kinda have a deck you can limitless amounts of money on

you'd just be in debt for the rest of the game

[clear hare]

Wraith

[fickle shadow]

Then perhaps it could be offset by buying everything you can on purpose

[lime inlet]

right

[fickle shadow]

Buying things to waste them

[lime inlet]

wait how would wraith work in the next ante after use
wouldn't it just set money to 0 THEN you lose money?

[cold sandal]

Skip packs

I was thinking the same thing

[lime inlet]

i mean you could reroll for a spectral gen

ig

[cold sandal]

That too

[fickle shadow]

Greed begets waste

[cold sandal]

You could reroll for every joker technically

Just get enough negatives

[lime inlet]

speaking from experience
that is going to take weeks if not months

[fickle shadow]

Getting real fat from Joker consumption

[lime inlet]

it took me 4 hours to do it with 30 jokers

(with cheats)

now that i think of it

[fickle shadow]

Well what about a deck where the Joker and consumable slots are just literally infinite, but every hand something gets destroyed in there

[lime inlet]

Lagging Deck fits more in theme with Greed than Deck of Greed

how many of these decks are just replacing other decks

[cold sandal]

The "Does Literally Nothing Basically" deck:
Cards, jokers, and consumables (Planets with observatory) are triggered from right to left instead of left to right.

[clear hare]

A deck with no effect would actually be funny

Blank Deck: Does nothing?

[lime inlet]

Deck of Abnormaility: Is normal

[fickle shadow]

Standard Issue Pack of 52 Cards

[cold sandal]

Win 100 gold stakes run with the blank deck to unlock the antimatter deck
(Combine only the upsides of every deck)

[lime inlet]

oh yea math maybe deck of greed can replace lagging deck as it encourages spending a lot of money

[fickle shadow]

A deck with a critical hit and critical miss chance

[cold sandal]

1/10 chance to ^2 mult, 1/10 chance to sqrt mult

[clear hare]

Let me add this

[lime inlet]

Boss Blind idea
Every other card gets triggered

[cold sandal]

Rename the current deck of greed to Risky Deck maybe?

[lime inlet]

Deck of Anti-Greed lmao

[clear hare]

Deck of Delayed Gratification maybe? lol

[lime inlet]

Deck of Patience?

[fickle shadow]

Deck of 2008 Market Crash

[clear hare]

Yeah that works

[lime inlet]

difference is i make money by not spending

[cold sandal]

Unnamed Deck:
Gain A Tarot, Planet, and Spectral card whenever you play a hand with 0$. Start with an extra consumable slot.

Extreme Vagabond (but in deck form)

[fickle shadow]

If you go to a casino and never buy any chips, you'll walk out richer than most other people there that day

[clear hare]

Maybe with full discards? This feels too similar to Vagabond

[lime inlet]

there are so many Deck ofs now
im not complaining

[clear hare]

Like if you play hands before discarding, you get the bonus

[cold sandal]

yea

[fickle shadow]

Maybe there should be some not decks then

[cold sandal]

Use it with delayed gratification for funny

[fickle shadow]

Trading Card collection, entirely face cards

[clear hare]

Thorn Deck: 1 hand, inf discards

Based on an idea I had in the demo for a deck

[cold sandal]

Jokerless on the thorn deck where you only play straight flushes:

[clear hare]

Delayed Gratification

And Banner

[cold sandal]

Delayed Gratification 💀

[fickle shadow]

Does the game let you discard when you have nothing left in the deck?

[cold sandal]

Banner making every hand naninf

[clear hare]

No, you just lose

[lime inlet]

if you had inf discards then does that mean theoretically burnt joker and trading card last forever?

[fickle shadow]

Commit seppuku by throwing all your cards away without even trying to play a hand

[clear hare]

I hope not

[lime inlet]

lol

[fickle shadow]

When there is only one hand remaining, and you discard all of your remaining cards from your deck, gain one polychrome, glass, red seal King(?) that is guaranteed to break after being played.

[cold sandal]

New Deck List (From what I found, just compiling all the recent ideas):

Deck of Pride (Concept) (Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Double ante requirements. All sources of money give +1$ at the end of round

Deck of Lust (Concept) (Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Start with 4 sets of 13 6s, one set for each suit. Anything that happens to a card also happens to all other cards in the set. When adding a card, create a new set of 13 starting out as that card.

Unknown Deck (Idea by Catman):
"Well what about a deck where the Joker and consumable slots are just literally infinite, but every hand something gets destroyed in there"

RL Deck (Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Cards, jokers, and consumables (Planets with observatory) are triggered from right to left instead of left to right.

Blank Deck (Idea by MathIsFun):
Does Nothing?

Antimatter Deck (Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Combine the upsides of every deck. (Unlocked after winning on Gold Stakes with the Blank Deck 3 times)

Critical Deck (Idea by Catman / Mystic Misclick):
1/10 chance to ^2 mult, 1/10 chance to sqrt mult.

Deck of Acceptance (Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Gain A Tarot, Planet, and Spectral card whenever you play a hand without having discarded. Start with an extra consumable slot.

Royalty Deck (Idea by Catman):
Start without numbered cards or aces. (Just the opposite of Abandoned Deck p much)

Thorn Deck (Idea by MathIsFun):
-3 hands, infinite discards.

Last Resort Deck (Idea by Catman):
If you have 1 hand remaining, and are out of cards in your deck, add a Glass Polychrome Red Seal (Number) of (Suits) to your hand that is removed from your deck when the round ends. (The card would be a King of Hearts, but will change to an Ace when fighting the Plant, or to a Diamond when fighting the Heart)

[cold sandal]

Also theres this

[cold sandal]

This

[clear hare]

And Supernova

[cold sandal]

This (Might need a new name as it's shared with a Joker)

[clear hare]

That one might be better as White Hole though with the same spawn mechanics as Black Hole

Because it’s just as busted

[cold sandal]

This (Part something)

[lime inlet]

i think that already got implemented unless im wrong

[cold sandal]

Oh wait thats in the sheet

oops

[clear hare]

I got that one alr

If it’s implemented I can remove it @lime inlet

[lime inlet]

k

[cold sandal]

The bad art for 2d I made that doesn't really work

[cold sandal]

A different scaling deck

And also this

I think thats everything

(That isnt already in the spreadsheet)

Have fun trying to gold stake every deck now modders!

I think thats around 40 decks in the mod if all of the concepts get added

This is purely hypothetical but I think we have enough decks now

We need more uhhhh

vouchers

and tags

Pack Gamble Tag:
Gives a Celestial pack, an Arcana pack, a Standard pack, and a Buffoon pack.

[fickle shadow]

A joker that adds game speed to mult

[lime inlet]

finally 0.25X mult

[thin sigil]

just awoke, what are you guys talking about

[cold sandal]

Empowered Tag:
Spawn a spectral pack thats guaranteed to contain The Soul and Gateway. +1 ante.

[lime inlet]

tag rarities?

[cold sandal]

Just having it be rarer than the other tags?

[thin sigil]

makes sense

or just give it a gold color

[cold sandal]

That Might already be a thing, I feel like the Buffoon Tag doesn't spawn as much as the others

[thin sigil]

and call them exotic tags

[cold sandal]

Or it's just that the Buffoon Tag cant spawn on Ante 1 specifically

[fickle shadow]

Tag that coinflips giving an exotic tag or nothing

[lime inlet]

me when the all 6s

[fickle shadow]

Perfectly balanced as all things should be

Harvest double tags just for that

[thin sigil]

maybe 1/4th

[cold sandal]

Gamblers Tag

Also calling it Exotic tag doesn't feel right considering it could also give you a legendary if you dont want to risk your build later in the game

[thin sigil]

hmmm

[cold sandal]

I called it the Empowered Tag when first suggesting it

[fickle shadow]

Voucher that makes double tags work on double tags

[cold sandal]

Thats just an infinite loop

Get 2 double tags for a free softlock!

[lime inlet]

me when Vendere

now you have 15 double tags to softlock

[fickle shadow]

Would be fine by me, currently if I take double tags my game usually crashes after cashing them in

[lime inlet]

uhhhh

[cold sandal]

😅

[fickle shadow]

Open multiple packs all at the same time, only get to pick two cards and crashes afterwards

[cold sandal]

Have you tried #1200105253559873707 ?

[thin sigil]

maybe add in a whole new type of packs

[cold sandal]

That might happen with Keys

[fickle shadow]

It's a Tag Previews mod problem I am pretty sure, it also makes investment tag give nothing. Very cool

[lime inlet]

why does it hurt to see Joker as joker in some effects

[thin sigil]

oh yeahLocksmith packs

[lime inlet]

locksmith is taken as a name

[lime inlet]

unlock too

[fickle shadow]

So perhaps a triple or quadruple tag then, a voucher that can make double tags sometimes triple tags

[thin sigil]

hmmm

[cold sandal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6st5Uf08xz0nNjXJ0LZiBo6TG26F5IZRkV4xulZicI/edit#gid=0

Bringing that down here

[lime inlet]

Thievery pack since you're taking keys?

[fickle shadow]

Skeleton Key

[lime inlet]

3d printed key
Can be used as any key

oh wait there's already about 55 keys that need to implemented lmao

[thin sigil]

Skeleton packs

[fickle shadow]

Filled with bones

[thin sigil]

lol

[fickle shadow]

All 256 of them

[lime inlet]

Boned key

yer boned

[thin sigil]

trying to come up with a good name for a pack with keys

[fickle shadow]

Keyring

[lime inlet]

we already took the good names

[thin sigil]

WHY

[lime inlet]

so we can name the vouchers related to the keys?

[thin sigil]

:(

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Sinner's Deck
idk name sounded cool

[cold sandal]

Vouchers:
Copies:
Double Tags become Triple Tags, and are now 2x likely to spawn.
Tag Printer:
Double Tags become Quadruple Tags, and are now 3x likely to spawn.
Clone Machine:
Double Tags become Quintuple Tags, and are now 4x likely to spawn.

[thin sigil]

I like

[fickle shadow]

Joker of The Keymaker from The Matrix Reloaded able to open doors to completely different places

[thin sigil]

Maybe Copies, Printer, and then Cloning machine

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Hear me out
an item that allows vouchers to be restocked

[thin sigil]

?

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you can gain copies of vouchers

[fickle shadow]

Deranged gambler prints entire voucher book in one sitting

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of course the planet and tarot ones don't do anything but stuff like the +hand and +discard vouchers could be really useful

[cold sandal]

Double Observatory

2.25x for each held planet :o

[fickle shadow]

Betmma Vouchers has two that just give two random vouchers and four random vouchers respectively

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anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-anti-matter

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And it has a voucher with a buff for how many vouchers you have

Truly an extreme couponer build

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A penultimate voucher that restocks every single voucher would go hard

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we are disorganized I thinkl

We should probably focus on one thing

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which is?

the tags ig

[thin sigil]

yes

tags

we do not have any of them

[fickle shadow]

Tag that has a cute cat face on it and never redeems

[thin sigil]

So a cat tag

that does not help you

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Reduce Tag
Reduce following blind requirements by [idk]%

[cold sandal]

More Vouchers:
Fishing Rod:
1/4 chance to get the skip tag when playing a blind.
Professional Angler:
1/3 chance to create a Double Tag when playing a blind. 1/3 chance to get the skip tag when playing a blind.
Master Caster:
1/2 chance to create a Triple Tag when playing a blind. 1/2 chance to get the skip tag when playing a blind.

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holy crap

I thought we were doing tags though lol

[cold sandal]

Its technically related to tags

[fickle shadow]

Or perhaps for the seriously deranged programmer it actually adds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neko_(software)

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WHAT

Tag Ideas:
Memory Tag: Spawns 2 of the last tag that you used

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yuh

[mental tiger]

What about like, all jokers are negative, but 3/4 of them are rental or something (this probably needs some tweaks)

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im looking at the vouchers and man redeemed deck is busted

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imagine a voucher that restocks all voucher of a specific tier

[cold sandal]

Has Redeemed Deck
Gets Ticket Key

:)

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best part is that with the tier 3 key voucher you can redeem it again and get every voucher again

tbf that is like a 1 in 55 chance of getting that 1 key

[cold sandal]

Get the key

Get Perkeo

Win because you have like infinite vouchers

Alright ima get every suggestion here rq

[clear hare]

I can give you edit access to the spreadsheet if you want @cold sandal

that way it can be easier

just give me an email I can add

[dusty plover]

imo the maximixed joker sprite would look better if the colors were flipped

just looks kinda... off... that the arrow is on green and not the redder side

[clear hare]

I mean I kinda interpret it as being "charged up" if it's green

[dusty plover]

good point

[clear hare]

oh yeah we also have 39 new decks now

nice

[dusty plover]

dude this mod is gonna be so sick when it releases

[clear hare]

I'm probably going to release it in batches

so like not all of the ideas will be ready at once, but once there's enough we can do a 0.1 release or something like what Ortalab did

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70 new suggestions pop up

[dusty plover]

yeeeah i'd LOVE a demo of this mod

[clear hare]

The code is open source so you can always try it, but for now it’s so little you’ll probably never see any Cryptid items for most runs

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anyone up for Deck of [stages of grief]

[cold sandal]

I'll add the rest of the stuff I've found in a bit, gotta eat so brb

[cold sandal]

Btw we need a name for this

Unknown (Deck{?} / Idea by Gold)
All Jokers are negative. 3/4 of Jokers are Rental.

[cold sandal]

And a different name for this

Scaling Deck (Deck {Name in use} / Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Start with 3 eternal scaling jokers. +1 Joker slot. Deck starts with only 5 Polychrome Lucky Red Seal 2s of Spades.

[cold sandal]

And another one for this

Key Booster Pack (Item Pack {Name subject to change} / Idea by y_not_tony):
Contains 2 keys. (Mega and Jumbo variants work similarily to how other Mega and Jumbo variants work)

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Knockoff(Voucher I):
Creates a duplicate of a random owned tier 1 voucher

Forged Ticket(Voucher II):
Creates 2 duplicates of a random owned tier 2 voucher

Counterfeit(Voucher III):
Duplicates half of all owned vouchers

[cold sandal]

Unknown (Deck{?} / Idea by Gold)
All Jokers are negative. 3/4 of Jokers are Rental. (Name Aquired)

Scaling Deck (Deck {Name in use} / Idea by Mystic Misclick):
Start with 3 eternal scaling jokers. +1 Joker slot. Deck starts with only 5 Polychrome Lucky Red Seal 2s of Spades.

Key Booster Pack (Item Pack {Needs a proper name} / Idea by y_not_tony):
Contains 2 keys. (Mega and Jumbo variants work similarily to how other Mega and Jumbo variants work)

These 3 need names still. If y'all could drop some names for these that'd be great 👍

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Maybe Taxing Deck for the 1st one

[cold sandal]

Voucher shenanigans

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also envy is gonna replace deck of unlocking

[cold sandal]

Alr

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there are so many everything

we crossed 150 entry barrier

[cold sandal]

Decks

You cant even view them all without zooming out

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i dare u post it in modding with no context :)

[cold sandal]

#⚙・modding-general message

It has been done

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llo

[cold sandal]

That is 34 decks

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41 cause enhancement decks

[cold sandal]

oh yeah

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ok maybe miscounted a bit

[cold sandal]

actually 40

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• the 15 base and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[cold sandal]

Balatro: Too much stuff (And it's all really op)

Can't wait to see this on YouTube (when it's eventually finished or has a first playable version that you can actually obtain everything (thats been added))