⚠ SPOILERS ⚠ Next Fest Balatro Stream

[vernal canyon]

tear down the wall!

[oak lantern]

why the 3 instead of the jack

[simple schooner]

he's playing small hands

[fluid creek]

We need an RNA joker

[versed verge]

Foil here is huge

[oak lantern]

[simple schooner]

he got a house

[plush raft]

ooooooo he's got one

[hasty bronze]

This'll do numbers

[merry monolith]

gl gl

[broken monolith]

gl

[hasty bronze]

gl hf

[broken monolith]

I’m thinking like 20k from this

24k not too far off

[versed verge]

let's goooooooooo

[oak lantern]

[vernal canyon]

yessss

[plush raft]

TEAR DOWN THAT WALL

[broken monolith]

nice

[simple schooner]

gg

[bleak pebble]

gaming

[merry monolith]

YOOOOOOOO

[bronze river]

Yoooooo nicee

[carmine badge]

A-maz-ing

[fluid creek]

Lovely

[warped fiber]

He doens't neeed DNA!!!!!

[oak lantern]

that's why he should replace it

[simple schooner]

"full house is still my best friend"

bro just playing 2pair

[merry monolith]

maybe if he rerolls he could fin dsomthing to replace dna

[hasty bronze]

DNA jiggle on first hand?

[oak lantern]

would help for sure

[cedar lagoon]

Crazy joker art SO different these days

[fluid creek]

Double double

[trail needle]

More joker jiggles

[vernal canyon]

very small ante 6 🤏

[hasty bronze]

Trading card jiggle on first discard?

[merry monolith]

would be so nice

[warped fiber]

Yesssssss

[hasty bronze]

ship it

[merry monolith]

also yes please

[simple schooner]

🚢

[versed verge]

🚢

[grave vault]

how can I say no to more jiggling jokers?

[cedar lagoon]

Flower pot jiggle on 4 valid suits selected

[carmine badge]

Aww, I was expecting Red Seal to retrigger and cause it to duplicate itself again

[bronze river]

Add a jiggle to all cards that have effects similar to dna, like trading card

[plush raft]

4oak O.o

[hasty bronze]

Do you hate jigglejokers?

[severe jetty]

jiggle me timbers

[merry monolith]

u read that wrong

[grave vault]

i want them ALL to jiggle!!

[merry monolith]

commas are a butt

[hasty bronze]

ah

[simple schooner]

timber me jiggles

[hasty bronze]

jiggle the jimbos

[versed verge]

Joker jiggle on Hand-type Jokers

[broken monolith]

🔥

[severe jetty]

nooo dont ❓ me nooo

[plush raft]

i understood you

[bronze river]

Naman is cooking rn

[broken monolith]

Card Sharp

[hasty bronze]

LEAKS

[broken monolith]

X3 is huge

[vernal canyon]

holy

[merry monolith]

WHAT

THATS ACTUALLY AWESOME

[bronze river]

WHAT

[vernal canyon]

that is massive

[severe jetty]

NOWAY

[oak lantern]

wow 2 common jokers on blind select, that's huge for that knife joker

[severe jetty]

that is crazy

[plush raft]

leek 🥬

[carmine badge]

Okay, that's just busted

[broken monolith]

Pair might be the Strat then

Just for consistency

[carmine badge]

That is absolutely 100% busted

[fluid creek]

Whar? How is that not OP

[trail needle]

Yoo I remember this art leak

Really cool card

[simple schooner]

leek

[fluid creek]

Inform the authorities

[severe jetty]

oh man my stream was laggin behind alot haha

[hasty bronze]

We play the wheel here

[plush raft]

POLY POLY POLY

[broken monolith]

[oak lantern]

[plush raft]

[bleak pebble]

[simple schooner]

rng said

[hasty bronze]

[severe jetty]

[vernal canyon]

[cedar lagoon]

[grave vault]

[merry monolith]

card sharp is an immedite new favorite top 10

[severe jetty]

anybody remember what the pattern joker does?

[bronze river]

[broken monolith]

Spawns commons

[merry monolith]

ye one sec

[oak lantern]

2 common jokers when selecting small a blind iirc

[carmine badge]

Also, noted a grammatical error on Riff-Raff. Create up to 2 Common "Joker", not "Jokers"

[severe jetty]

oh cool

[oak lantern]

guess not necessarily small blind

[plush raft]

i like how uncommon is a screenshot lmao

[merry monolith]

it can create one so it would be joker

[broken monolith]

We have the king!

[cedar lagoon]

BARON!

[fluid creek]

Joker(s)

[oak lantern]

King buff

[carmine badge]

What is even--

[oak lantern]

[vernal canyon]

king!!!

[merry monolith]

YEP THAT MAKES SENSE

[versed verge]

hold my hand

[hasty bronze]

🙂

[carmine badge]

So THAT'S what it does... I saw that in one of those sneak peeks

[bronze river]

👑 ✋

[fluid creek]

Oh great heavens,

[merry monolith]

Half joker buff

btw

[severe jetty]

also i saw that "chips" was not capitalised in the Chips Tarot (forgot the name lmao)

[severe jetty]

BROOO

[broken monolith]

LETS GO

[bronze river]

What was the buff, didn't see

[merry monolith]

15 -> 20

[bronze river]

Oo

[versed verge]

+20 is insane

[severe jetty]

yoooo

love that

[trail needle]

Ahh so THIS is the effect that supposedly allowed going infinite

[fluid creek]

Potential 1.5^H multiplier

[cedar lagoon]

red seal 7 kings high card plays

[broken monolith]

Dusk lol

[merry monolith]

my note for baron on my spreadsheet index before today was litteraly just: unrevealed (thunk said its op)

[severe jetty]

1.5^(H-1) actually

if H is hand size

[warped fiber]

New Challenge!

[merry monolith]

good as hell run

Black deck leak

did anyone catch it

[oak lantern]

too fast

[cedar lagoon]

I'm screen recording, wont publish it though

[broken monolith]

New order

[versed verge]

short bus challenge

[broken monolith]

Game modifiers on right now

[cedar lagoon]

2 pages of challenges!

[bronze river]

We are all going for a bus ride weeeee

[carmine badge]

Got a Shadowplay on it, but I will respect the dev's wishes and shall not leak, because I'm nice like that

[plush raft]

the challenges past 5 being locked 😂

[oak lantern]

was already shown on the pcgamer interview

[lone burrow]

i wanna know if hex or ankh destroy eternals or not

[broken monolith]

Window

[trail needle]

Toss a mime in there and make them all steel too >:)

[cedar lagoon]

surely not

[frank oxide]

They don't I think

[pure hatch]

they probably cant

[severe jetty]

shouldnt afaik

[merry monolith]

red seal steel mime

[frank oxide]

Eternal says can't be sold or destroyed

[lone burrow]

so doesn't that just mean free poly/duplicate

[fluid creek]

Immolate will go hard in this challenge

[bleak pebble]

how do eternal cards work with ankh and hex? are they just ignored?

[lone burrow]

or does it not even let you

[frank oxide]

The eternal could get duplicated

So sorta free

[oak lantern]

can you drag them around?

[merry monolith]

yes

[carmine badge]

WRONG WAY

[merry monolith]

pinned is a diffrent attribute

[versed verge]

sweat

[carmine badge]

Much better

[rocky meteor]

duplicates enough to fill every joker slot with eternals

[bronze river]

Phew

[severe jetty]

phew

[cedar lagoon]

They can be locked though, like dagger locked to left hand side

[plush raft]

naman proves himself a better player than 90% of content creators

[oak lantern]

oh what, there's pinned as well?

[merry monolith]

yeah its how on a knifes edge challenge works

[severe jetty]

Knife's Edge challenge

[oak lantern]

ah missed that

[lone burrow]

imagine brainstorm with pinned

[vague marsh]

high card runners rejoice

[fluid creek]

Pinned to slot 1

[merry monolith]

its why alot of people think eternal means cant be moved

[versed verge]

With Bus, you don't really need to be playing Straights

[oak lantern]

i see

[little galleon]

i. cant. friggin. wait. to play this

[bleak pebble]

how droll :)

[oak lantern]

[broken monolith]

Faceless!

[versed verge]

Faceless!

[severe jetty]

ooooh Faceless!

[versed verge]

$$$$

[severe jetty]

that hiker buff

yeahhhh

[river zinc]

huge hiker buff

[cedar lagoon]

hiker at 4 is HUGE

[vernal canyon]

i've been looking forward to that one!

[carmine badge]

Whoa, Hiker is much better now

[broken monolith]

Debuff synergy :(

[plush raft]

wait we just saw that buffed to 2 yesterday 😂

[scenic wave]

hiker is FOUR?

[cedar lagoon]

debuffed cards tho innit

[carmine badge]

They were debuffed, thus the Joker ignored them

[merry monolith]

HIKER BUFFED AGAIN?!?!?!?

[rocky meteor]

Hiker doin' CARDIO

[vernal canyon]

hiker to the moon!!!

[broken monolith]

Uncommon too

[simple schooner]

4 and uncom

[fluid creek]

Didn't get money because cards are debuffed?

[oak lantern]

thunk are you reading? faceless joker jiggle on 3 or more face cards selected and there are still discards left 👀

[trail needle]

Hiker buff is deserved

[severe jetty]

And you get a Jiggle, and you get a Jiggle, EVERYONE GETS A JIGGLE!!!

[plush raft]

shortcut straight 👏 👏 👏

[merry monolith]

was already uncommon was it not

[severe jetty]

yeah

[quiet dove]

Hiker on release day: every card gains +64 chips when scored

[cedar lagoon]

hidden seed "rejiggle" all cards jiggle during play

[broken monolith]

Legendary

[merry monolith]

buddy is back

[merry monolith]

was revealed last stream

[broken monolith]

It’s here again

[vernal canyon]

we saw that one yesterday!

[simple schooner]

ah aight

[plush raft]

and now we see it again

[simple schooner]

wasn't there

[plush raft]

WHEEL WHEEL WHEEL

[broken monolith]

[warped fiber]

WHEEL TIME

[plush raft]

[fluid creek]

Wheel

[severe jetty]

[vernal canyon]

[versed verge]

[oak lantern]

it'll work, trust me

[merry monolith]

[vernal canyon]

[hasty bronze]

[broken monolith]

[oak lantern]

[bleak pebble]

[grave vault]

[plush raft]

[carmine badge]

[severe jetty]

[cedar lagoon]

[merry monolith]

#wofto1in4

[broken monolith]

Wheel of 4tune

[merry monolith]

yuppppppp

[carmine badge]

Do Fool, run the Wheel of Fortune again lol

[merry monolith]

Devious nerf

[versed verge]

Devious, yooooooo

[merry monolith]

needed

[severe jetty]

#AlsoPlsMakeLuckyCardsTriggerMoreOftenButMakeTheRewardsABitLess

[fluid creek]

Fool me once

[plush raft]

[simple schooner]

devious nerf?

[broken monolith]

[versed verge]

[warped fiber]

WHEELLLLLL

[broken monolith]

[carmine badge]

THAT WASN'T MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY!

[vernal canyon]

[hasty bronze]

[oak lantern]

[bleak pebble]

[plush raft]

[carmine badge]

[severe jetty]

[cedar lagoon]

[fluid creek]

Your wheel is:

[trail needle]

[pure hatch]

[merry monolith]

120 -> 100

[versed verge]

Superpos hater

[oak lantern]

LOL

[trail needle]

Wheel of misfortune

[simple schooner]

THE FAIL

[fluid creek]

"Lets do it"

[carmine badge]

Ehhh... it probably woulda been a bad one anyway

[simple schooner]

doesn't do it

[versed verge]

No Aces in deck, I still take Superpos

[severe jetty]

what a skill issue lmao

[merry monolith]

Zany art and buff!

[carmine badge]

Yeah, Poly Delayed Gratif... imagine that

[broken monolith]

Death Strength those kings!

[vague marsh]

do you mean strength

[broken monolith]

Yep

[plush raft]

where's immolate when you need it lol

that hand

[severe jetty]

maybe a hot take but im not that big of a fan of the poker hand joker art

[merry monolith]

Zany Joker: 10 -> 12

[versed verge]

that IS a hot take

[simple schooner]

hot take indeed

[fluid creek]

Dangerous

[versed verge]

The artist is standing right there

[plush raft]

🍐

[oak lantern]

lol

[severe jetty]

🍐

maybe ive just been spoiled by all the new and pretty joker art

[vernal canyon]

🚀 🌕

[fluid creek]

We reached 1,000 viewers

[merry monolith]

we need the secret!

i have a feeling i might now what it is

[simple schooner]

🍐

[plush raft]

might as well predict, we'll see it soon

[versed verge]

Superpos value

[broken monolith]

There’s a secret?

February surprise

[merry monolith]

i have a feeling that the secret will be the game price

[oak lantern]

behind the scenes

[merry monolith]

bts????

[hasty bronze]

lmao I don't even know what the secret is

[cedar lagoon]

Please don't speculate about the game price 😉

[merry monolith]

gotchu gotchu

[broken monolith]

Strush lol

With the face cards

[simple schooner]

👀

[versed verge]

He's addicted

[severe jetty]

it's gonna be N$ where N is half of your high score

[vague marsh]

omg the band is coming to balatro

[trail needle]

They can’t ALL be wild, there’s gotta be some cute basic ones

[plush raft]

playstack about to announce Balatro 2

[simple schooner]

"just one more"

[oak lantern]

"just one more round"

[versed verge]

let him cook

[severe jetty]

"uno mas"

[cedar lagoon]

Secret is "local is a boxers not briefs guy"

[oak lantern]

Balatwo ?

[hasty bronze]

shhhh tell him the stream ends in an hour

[vague marsh]

ewwwwwww

[plush raft]

daylight savings

[vague marsh]

boxers suck

[carmine badge]

Do the 10 instead

[merry monolith]

yeah... the stream actually just started u got an hour left to go

[oak lantern]

LESS THAN 70 DOLLARS CONFIRMED!!!

[rugged ivy]

balatro won't cost $70 let's go

[simple schooner]

price leak... it's not 70$

[merry monolith]

YOOOOOOO

[plush raft]

BALATRO WONT COST $70 POG

[vernal canyon]

🤯

[severe jetty]

LET'S GOOOO

[rugged ivy]

it'll be $75!!!

[bronze river]

Yoooo thats huge

[carmine badge]

It better not cost as much as Starfield lolol

[vague marsh]

damn greedy AAA devs

[cedar lagoon]

That's canadian doobles

[broken monolith]

$200

[rugged ivy]

already played the demo more than i played starfield so from a value perspective...

[oak lantern]

dev tools?!

[vague marsh]

I have ten Canadian dollars can I pay with that

[vernal canyon]

???

[severe jetty]

OH MAH GOD

[oak lantern]

CHEATS!!!

[vague marsh]

HUH

[river zinc]

CHECK HIM PC

[merry monolith]

THIS CHEATER

[pure hatch]

wth

[versed verge]

👀

[severe jetty]

HACKS!!!

[broken monolith]

sandbox mode

[bronze river]

DEV HE CHEATING

[vernal canyon]

the number is still at 8 when it's not negative!!!

[grave vault]

RULE 7

[vernal canyon]

bug spotted

[plush raft]

lmao

[cedar lagoon]

Local can I have that for youtube gubbins PLEASE ❤️

[bleak pebble]

cheating! live on stream even!

[simple schooner]

lmao

[merry monolith]

LOL

[oak lantern]

i can't trust the trailers anymore

[plush raft]

imagine he discovered another leak item

[severe jetty]

oh boyyy

[plush raft]

👏 👏 👏 👏

[warped fiber]

Thank you Naman!!

[oak lantern]

[carmine badge]

Imagine, if we could use them

[bronze river]

Great stream

[hasty bronze]

Thanks Naman 🙂

[oak lantern]

Thank you, Naman

[vernal canyon]

👏

[cedar lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-applause-round-of-standing-gif-20790999

[bleak pebble]

Great stream Naman

[versed verge]

Great work, Naman!

[bronze river]

Thank you Naman!

[simple schooner]

loved it Naman

[severe jetty]

Good work, Naman!

[rocky meteor]

👏

[simple schooner]

ty for the stream

[merry monolith]

YIPPIE

[scenic wave]

hell yea

[merry monolith]

awesome stream

[oak lantern]

We all know if you had more time you would have won that first run, without cheats

[versed verge]

👏

[cedar lagoon]

No Cavendish

still bugged

[pure hatch]

😦

[severe jetty]

i aeted all the cavendish

[simple schooner]

aight gn

[cedar lagoon]

g'night gang ❤️

[merry monolith]

recap for anyone who missed!

[plush raft]

gn to all the people goin to bed

[severe jetty]

same

[bronze river]

Ok it's 3:30 am here
I need to go to slep desperately lmao

[severe jetty]

gn yall!

[merry monolith]

gn thoose going to bed!

[bronze river]

Gn you jokers

[oak lantern]

sweet dreams about duo buff and popcorn nerf!

[severe jetty]

wait blue seal change????

[merry monolith]

apparently

[trail needle]

Cool stream!

[merry monolith]

that was the one thing i missed, but math picked it up

[trail needle]

I don’t think blue seal changed

[oak lantern]

looks like you were right after all

no?

[broken monolith]

I thought I was tripping

[cursive peak]

pretty sure it worked the same still

[broken monolith]

I said that because I thought was base game effects

[oak lantern]

i don't know if thunk was joking or not when he asked "blue seal activates on discard?"

[broken monolith]

what happened was I thought it activated on discard in the current demo

instead of held in hand

[oak lantern]

ah i see

[broken monolith]

but in this vod it's held in hand, yep

[oak lantern]

okay then it's unchanged

[severe jetty]

it always has been held in hand

[broken monolith]

I think because purple seal activates on discard (?)

my brain just filled in gaps lol

[merry monolith]

ok so just ignore that in the recap

[grizzled jay]

Thanks for watching everyone!

[oak lantern]

thanks for playing

[spring sage]

Is the stream over? Will there be a vod?

[merry monolith]

Thank you so much Naman

[tender jolt]

Thanks

[quiet dove]

Highlight of the stream was triumphing over The wall

[merry monolith]

you did very good

[vernal canyon]

you did great naman!!!

[broken monolith]

tysm for the runs

[severe jetty]

i didnt see the scary face buff, that's nice

[grizzled jay]

VOD will go up tomorrow

[oak lantern]

thanks!

[severe jetty]

ok gn fr

[spring sage]

Thank you @grizzled jay

[plush raft]

good stream 👍

[hasty bronze]

Thanks @grizzled jay 🙂 Thanks everyone!

[versed verge]

showed that wall who's boss

[vernal canyon]

man that stream made me want to jump right in to the full game 🥲

[plush raft]

two weeks

that's nothing

[vernal canyon]

true

[merry monolith]

will be updating my nextfest doc!

[oak lantern]

what are you writing in that doc? oh nvm, balatro updates we've seen during the event

[merry monolith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12JHOwuqk4VB2wqX7RxbJ2A1l8GKXnqIYfOXNXyGqXP8/edit?usp=sharing

updating as we speak

[grizzled jay]

Checked the VOD and it has music/SFX so must have been a weird streaming quirk

In any case will get both VODs up tomorrow for folks that missed it

[oak lantern]

good news 🙌

[merry monolith]

you probably had the output audio splits and had the desktop audio not on the first audio channel which is the one the stream reads

i run into that issue all the time

[hollow blade]

im hyped for the unnamed joker that adds mult for every card less than 52 in your deck

thin to win baby

[hasty bronze]

BTW it says '40' for Abandoned 🙂

[bleak pebble]

sad but understandable for us abandoned deck players

[quiet dove]

No casual +48 mult 😔

[lavish oar]

Understandable, it shouldn't break every joker possible

[hollow blade]

yeah that makes sense

[grizzled jay]

Ahhhh that makes sense

[merry monolith]

thank you, was wondering if that card was just gonna be busted

[merry monolith]

everything should be added

[quiet dove]

Thanks 👍 Card sharp is insane

[hollow blade]

yeah i can't believe that's uncommon

compared to like flower pot it seems so much easier to proc

[merry monolith]

it buffs early hands and nerfs later hands

its pretty good

[hollow blade]

the challenges seem very fun

reminds me of stuff like rollercoaster tycoon scenarios

[forest prism]

Straights are getting nerfed across the board. Curious what new support they are getting in the full release

[hasty bronze]

across the board?

I thought I just changed the planet scaling

[forest prism]

crazy and devious joker nerfs?

[hasty bronze]

is it not like that in the demo?

[forest prism]

i havent played for a day but last time I checked devious was 120?

[merry monolith]

^

[forest prism]

120 chips rather than 100

im just refering to the leak sheet

crazy was 15 mult last demo

[merry monolith]

yup we still have 120 for devious

[fast tinsel]

what does cards used this ante mean (the pillar)

[upper ferry]

oh I missed the stream

[fast tinsel]

does that refer to cards played? cuz Idk why not just say played

this says 20 chips on the right

[merry monolith]

i think it might be played one sec

[merry monolith]

tyty, was just copying from my index

[merry monolith]

it is

[fast tinsel]

half joker should say it got changed from 15 to 20

[fast tinsel]

oh that makes sense

[merry monolith]

was just rushing to get it down on the doc

thank u for all the fixes

[merry monolith]

oh mail was buffed

[icy holly]

SWEEEET

[fluid creek]

What website/other tool is that?

[lone burrow]

google sheet lol

[fast tinsel]

#1204200450879004682 message

[cedar lagoon]

#1204200450879004682 message full name

[merry monolith]

couldve changed but this was the preview we got on pcgamer interview, it was just called mail

thunk either was joking or did change it

only thunk can confirm

[cedar lagoon]

#🎥・videos-and-streams message videos are up!

[grizzled jay]

Next Fest streams now available unlisted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3zob73pwbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R-RuhV3NS4

[severe jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/tbh-creature-gif-25772842

[frank oxide]

Some unlock criteria

[fast tinsel]

Difficulties are unlockable per deck 😭

oh well

[merry monolith]

we knew a few of these but thank u for the ss!

[merry monolith]

thank u so much naman!

[eager shore]

yup

[fast tinsel]

heeh first was this ever leaked

second what does it mean

interest is not capped for 10 rounds?

or does it mean I always get 10$ interest no matter my current money

[cedar lagoon]

this sounds right

[merry monolith]

oh thats new

sounds like always $10

[quiet dove]

Loc^k

[hasty bronze]

That's the unlock condition you need to fulfill

[merry monolith]

oh

that makes more sense LOL

but also isnt a bad joker idea lmao

[fast tinsel]

ohhhhh that makes more sense now

thought because the voucher itself was not "Locked", it shows the actual effect

[hasty bronze]

I'm kinda confused where this screenshot is even from

[fast tinsel]

challenge

[merry monolith]

Naman's stream 1

[fast tinsel]

egg

[hasty bronze]

Ah okay

[merry monolith]

in the omellete challenge menu

[hasty bronze]

Oh right it was banned

[merry monolith]

yeye

[cedar lagoon]

God I'm so excited for Challenges

[hasty bronze]

They're actually way better than I was anticipating

The testers are having a blast with them

[cedar lagoon]

As the author of "On a Knife's Edge' I look forward to seeing people struggle though it 😛

I also imagine there's a lot of room for free content updates when new challenge ideas come around as they can just be programmed in and put ont he end of the list

[versed verge]

For the purposes of advertising the game,
I wish Naman said more about what makes the demo'd challenges "challenging"
and/or highlighted the benefit of there being some which aren't

[fast tinsel]

6$ now

[versed verge]

Probably better in 8 Ante than 5 Ante, yeah?

$6 is a lot for a Common though

[fast tinsel]

yea

we'll see

[versed verge]

sure sure

[fast tinsel]

ehm, this feels weird
shouldn't it say X3 mult because you have 2 empty joker slots?

[hasty bronze]

2 empty = X2

[fast tinsel]

so 0 empty = x0????

[plush raft]

it always counts itself

[hasty bronze]

Yes, but remember it says Joker stencil included

So if you have stencil and 5/5 it's X1

If you have stencil and 4/5, X2

[cedar lagoon]

if you have 5 stencils its X5 😮

[hasty bronze]

Yes

[fast tinsel]

so if u have 5/5 stencil jokers, it/s 5x?

wow

[merry monolith]

oh

thats sick actually

[plush raft]

X3125

[merry monolith]

didnt think bout that

[fast tinsel]

X25

[plush raft]

larger than my triple obelisk run

[fast tinsel]

oh right

I cant count

😹

[cedar lagoon]

Get a negative stencil for X6

[plush raft]

46,656 whew

[fast tinsel]

I mean "joker stencil included" sounds kinda weird, like I won't think of what does it mean exactly

I wonder if theres a better way to word it tho

[plush raft]

what do you think it means

[hollow blade]

visually it's like an "empty" slot since it's a stencil so I guess it's kinda intuitive

[fast tinsel]

I guess

[hasty bronze]

There was talk of which is better

• Joker stencil included
• Joker stencil not included

Both are ambiguous

But do convey something is different about stencil

[merry monolith]

Doesn't count itself?

maybe

[hasty bronze]

Other stencil interactions though

[merry monolith]

it is a confusing thought

[hollow blade]

maybe rather than "included" you could say "Ignores Joker Stencils"?

[plush raft]

then if you get multiple joker stencils they don't stack favorably

[hollow blade]

it's still confusing ig

[fast tinsel]

maybe
X1 Mult for each empty Joker slot and Joker Stencil owned

Idk tho, still does not click with me

[hollow blade]

that might be the best one so far

[oak lantern]

makes it sound like if you had a joker stencil in the past but not anymore it still adds X1 mult maybe?

[fast tinsel]

you dont own it anymore tho

[vague marsh]

make it currently owned?

[oak lantern]

yes

[hasty bronze]

Joker Stencil counts as empty

[versed verge]

If the worse case is "oh, Stencil does more than I thought it did at first,"
then I think that's still a postive player experience and a win overall

[hasty bronze]

I agree

[plush raft]

sometimes that means players don't take it and miss out on that

[hasty bronze]

To be fair though this was in the sept demo, I believe it had this disclaimer

And I didn't hear much about it

The wording on the first bit was different

But the disclaimer itself would have had the same issue

[versed verge]

The player with this attitude is going miss out on a lot of stuff,
not just Stencil. And this same "power gamer" will figure it out
from other people's experiences eventually anyway.

[fast tinsel]

I think the worst case is player not picking it up if they only have 1 joker slot left, they might think it would give them X0 and they lose

[hasty bronze]

I doubt that'll be a common assumption

When it does say (currently X1) as well in that situation

Before you buy it

[fast tinsel]

but that's before you buy it

[hasty bronze]

Plus that scenario I definitely would have heard about in the sept demo

I know that's how you interpreted it

[fast tinsel]

you might not want to risk if you dont understand that it isn't going to give X0

[hasty bronze]

But I am not convinced that's how most will interpret

[versed verge]

In that case, it's probably not useful to take Stencil anyway.
People getting the wrong idea but making the right decision, I'm not super worried about.
And I think we also dodge the scenario of people making the wrong decision and being punished.

[fast tinsel]

eh but even if u have 2 empty slots and see stencil in shop you might think "oh, after I pick it up I only have 1 empty joker slot left, so there's no point in getting it"

because e.g. Bull does not tell you how much chips you get AFTER buying it

[versed verge]

In my experience, the game doesn't really punish you for not interacting with game elements
so much as you might get punished for investing too much in the wrong game elements.

[fast tinsel]

off-topic, but negative invisible joker creating a dupe on NON stencil would (probably) make you get X0 mult

because 6/5 jokers

[hasty bronze]

Hmmmmmmm

[fast tinsel]

unless it's capped at X1

[hasty bronze]

It might be capped

And the wording does have enough wiggle room that it still makes sense at X1

Because there are 0 empty slots + 1 stencil

[fast tinsel]

true

[hasty bronze]

Not -1 empty slots

[fast tinsel]

we did get -1 hand size in previous demo tho 😹

[versed verge]

🕵️‍♀️

[hasty bronze]

Floored at 0 now

[fast tinsel]

[versed verge]

sad!

[hasty bronze]

And you lose if that happens 🙂

[versed verge]

better than soft lock

[fast tinsel]

yeah

speaking of softlocks, anyone tried immolate + hanged man twice yet (without playing/discarding)

[fast tinsel]

do you actually lose even if you still have cards in hand? because that's how drs won the previous demo with -1 hand size

[severe jetty]

which version?

[fast tinsel]

well I guess any, but latest better

[fast tinsel]

ecto for 7 hand size works too, then only 1 hanged man

[severe jetty]

ill see if i manage to pull it off in the experimental build 👍

[severe jetty]

manacle could work too

[hasty bronze]

If you have 0/0 you lose

1/0 doesn't lose

[versed verge]

But what about 0/8?

[eager shore]

0/8 and no discards

[versed verge]

You can't currently discard without selecting a card, right?

[eager shore]

True

Oop

[hasty bronze]

0/8 implies your deck must be empty right?

In which case you lose

[versed verge]

The above scenario is you use Immolate from consumables

[hasty bronze]

Or immolate things

Right

I'll check in a bit

[fast tinsel]

yea we had this idea ever since seance was leaked

didn't get to try it yet 👀

[severe jetty]

i took Ouija earlier so i have 7 handsize rn

[eager shore]

🔥

[severe jetty]

heck

[fast tinsel]

seed SEANCE has shop 1 seance

intended??

[severe jetty]

trying that rn

yup

[plush raft]

lmao

[pure hatch]

lmao

[fast tinsel]

u also took sale tag? lol

[severe jetty]

ofc

[fast tinsel]

ante 2 four fingers

well this is pretty convenient

[severe jetty]

lol

from the skip tag

[fast tinsel]

appears in 1st shop

[merry monolith]

yeah it just uses the joker order for the packs

so the shop was trading card and four fingers

[fast tinsel]

I'm aware ty

[merry monolith]

yeye

[severe jetty]

so far no dice on the immolate

[fast tinsel]

wait is booster pack queue not ante based?

[merry monolith]

it should be

[severe jetty]

got ouija next

[merry monolith]

i think all orders are based on ante now right?

[fast tinsel]

I had jumbo buffoon and spectral packs in ante 2 when I skipped small blind

[severe jetty]

[fast tinsel]

now I replayed without skip and they appear ante 1

also we should probably move out of this thread 😹

[merry monolith]

tru

[fast tinsel]

I'll bump the doc

[fast tinsel]

and the vods

[severe jetty]

noooooes

take 2

lost again lmao

im testing the theory of seeds with joker names with Obelisk first

[fast tinsel]

^

[severe jetty]

mb

[hollow blade]

are there any known jokers that have the possibility of giving you x0 mult?

[plush raft]

no

no jokers we know of can essentially set your score to 0

[fast tinsel]

wow, what a combo to draw in a buffoon pack 😹

the rivals

[scenic wave]

I don't think anybody screencapped it but the first vid has that 'insane joker' in it; Destroy random joker at the beginning of a round, gain 0.5Xmult

[merry monolith]

The Madness

ye

we've known about it for a long time

[scenic wave]

ah I had only ever seen it's art

[fast tinsel]

me too, but then I found a thread where they were guessing the effect

[merry monolith]

ye thunk made us a riddle and we figured it out

twas awesome

[lavish oar]

That sounds like knife, but a bit wilder, i like it

[trail needle]

knife but you dont get to choose :)

[versed verge]

spooky tbh

I probably treat it the same as knife then

which is to say, play Jokerless

[lavish oar]

use ankh to double mad joker

Think about what you've done

[trail needle]

better hope theyre eternal!

[merry monolith]

black stake and you get the madness

[severe jetty]

considering the current wording we have for The Madness, isnt it possible for it to destroy itself?

i shouldve read further back lmaoo

[humble idol]

are vods out?

[plush raft]

yes - #🎥・videos-and-streams

[humble idol]

ty

[bronze river]

Are there other jokers like Cavendish that you can only get once you do something specific in a run?

[vague marsh]

I don't think so

[lone burrow]

if you include unlock requirements then most likely yes

[fast tinsel]

Thunk said yesterday that some specific jokers like glass joker would only appear once you have 1 glass card in the deck. I guess that counts?

[bronze river]

Oh interesting

[lavish oar]

#🕹・game-discussion message
This is the post in question. Jokers that require specific enhancements (like stone, glass, steel, etc.) require those enhancements in your deck before they'll start appearing in the pool

[bronze river]

Oo gotcha, thats actually cool

[toxic fable]

stencil became uncommon 😲

[blissful knoll]

for anyone else who wants to watch the VOD: #🎥・videos-and-streams message

[fast tinsel]

Would blueprint also copy this ability, or does it only copy the "Xmult" of the joker 🤔 Probably the latter?

[blissful knoll]

before it was nerfed in the September demo, Blueprint didn't count as an "empty joker" if it was copying Joker Stencil

[fast tinsel]

Yea that makes sense

[dusty pilot]

it is unfortunate that it doesn't give a mult equal to the number of empty slots

I mean- it was really exploitable so it makes sense why not XD

[uncut quest]

i did the thing

[pure hatch]

madness can’t mad anymore 😔

[trail needle]

SWAG

That’s so much xmult every round oh my stars

[bronze river]

Wait, what happens with madness then? Does it eat or not eat

[trail needle]

It can’t eat!

But it still grows >:)

[trail needle]

Ante 12 is no joke

Nice going

[uncut quest]

things were going so well 😦

[bronze river]

Holy God
Oh btw, speaking of eternal jokers, can you get them in normal runs in any way?

[trail needle]

Black Stake and higher yeah!

Below Black Stake, no

Though a lot of challenges use eternal jokers

[bronze river]

I see

[vague marsh]

it still grows?

very interesting

[trail needle]

Madness is unlike Dagger in this regard

Dagger requires the card to be destroyed to gain mult, Madness gains mult when you select the blind no matter what

[vague marsh]

I see

[pure hatch]

ooh interesting

[vague marsh]

5 eternal madnesses when

infinite mult

[bronze river]

It can't go infinite, as each increases only once with selected blind i believe

But imagine tho

[trail needle]

Yeah, eventually the endless ante scaling will increase more than any of that

[vague marsh]

still

really big number

[trail needle]

It would get hella far for sure

[bronze river]

Now I'm wondering if there are any actual infinite loop builds or if they've been playtested through

[vague marsh]

uhhhhhh

[trail needle]

As far as we know, we got them all during pre-1.0 playtesting

[vague marsh]

dang

[trail needle]

Infinite targeted negatives was a big one

[plush raft]

infinite loops are gone. but someone still managed to break the points barrier into infinity

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1203578282709094491

[vague marsh]

why do I always miss all the cool stuff

[bronze river]

So this is the win condition for Balatro

What happened afterwards? Just continues as normal?

[plush raft]

no idea

[trail needle]

I think I remember math saying you lose once the blind score requirement reaches nan

[vague marsh]

that's honestly wild that someone got infinity points day 2

[pure hatch]

yep

that should count as an achievement

“beat endless”

[vague marsh]

"to infinity and beyond"

[fast tinsel]

Are we sure this is an intended feature though

[uncut quest]

the wording is consistent with the effect

besides, it takes an insane amount of luck for something like my run to happen

and it still dies to ante 12