#Daliy Discussion #23 - Sly, Wily, Devious, Crafty Jokers

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empty briar
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Sly Joker

+50 Chips if played hand contains a Pair.

Wily Joker

+80 Chips if played hand contains a Three of a Kind.

Devious Joker

+120 Ohips if played hand contains a Straight.

Crafty Joker

+80 Chips if played hand contains a Flush.

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surreal beacon
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sly sucks lol but its gotta be there

fresh ore
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Sly has saved me countless times lol

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it provides a mostly guaranteed buff, even if it is a small one

vapid cloud
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the good part is these jokers being more useful than their +mult counterparts, because there are better options for +mult, while good chips options are limited

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50 chips can be pretty significant, especially when you don't have high hand levels or secret hands

empty briar
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i note 2 things:

  1. 4oak chips joker is missing/doesn't exist
  2. there wasn't a pair joker in previous demo (but it existed in first demo/playtest apparently?)
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hm, flush joker has red/black coloring. reference to suit colors?

vapid cloud
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yeah, jolly joker

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i think it's supposed to be +8, which isn't terrible for how free it is

sour steppe
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if I'm playing a hand that's been leveled up a few times, these jokers become much weaker. Like early on, Crafty is functionally about an x2 to a flush, but once I've gotten a few Jupiters, Crafty is only functionally about an x1.5, and if I also have some Heirophant cards, the relative bonus for Crafter becomes even smaller.

Sly is weak enough that I only take it if I get it for free and I'm playing a pants/full house kind of build.

plain lava
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Just realized crafty has blue cards for chips, while droll has red for mult

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Not sure if that's supposed to be true but good reference

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Tbh I don't understand why jolly wasn't in the v0.9 demo

empty briar
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oooh that'd be real cool if true

vapid cloud
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mhm

sour steppe
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I think none of these are as cool as runner (with the caveat that runner starts off weaker). I appreciate chip jokers that scale with number of hands played and hope there are at least some like that in the full version.

plain lava
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Also I don't know why, but sly makes me think of Pocket aces

vapid cloud
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wee

plain lava
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Sly hand

shell laurel
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love them or hate them, they give new players a lane

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also they give chips in a heavy mult joker lineup

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also strong early

plain lava
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Banner carry

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Ftw

shell laurel
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overall thumbs up from me

vapid cloud
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they're fairly strong in this demo, in part due to the lack of planets compared to the September demo

plain lava
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Also I just realized blue mouths

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More chip reference

vapid cloud
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with base level hands and heavy mult, they do the most work

vapid cloud
misty temple
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they're fine yeah, I understand why thunk added them in the 150 jokers pool, basic jokers are important

sour steppe
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I do hope for some bigger/better chip jokers in the full pool

honest folio
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The more i play the demo the more i appreciate them. They’re genuinely some of the best jokers to see along with banner / bull

stray swift
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i feel like the chip jokers are not that strong early game due to having little mult early. While late game there are often better options

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for straight/flush builds they are pretty great though

pallid swan
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what i wanna know is why no 4oak +chips joker exists

sour steppe
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3oak and pair +chips jokers work. Though it'd be extra cool if the pair joker worked twice on 4oak

pallid swan
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nah

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by that logic it should work 3 times on 3oak

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6 times on 4oak

sour steppe
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only if you're doing combinatorics

pallid swan
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why does 3oak joker exist if pair exists

sour steppe
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slightly more chips

pallid swan
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yeah, and so 4oak joker would give slightly more chips too