[LE9PWG7D - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

[unkempt monolith]

makes sense

crytpid a consume?

[full siren]

wait so the consumeable goes into your hand after the glitch

[young echo]

even if they are seen as playing cards

[young echo]

yeah

[full siren]

LMAO

[young echo]

that works, thats how I got other stuff

[unkempt monolith]

makes sense

[full siren]

I find it funnier just not mentioning that in the video and waiting until someone gets this happening to them

using a planet doesn't break anything right?

playing it I'm sure does

[young echo]

playing does, using just uses normally

[unkempt monolith]

surely if this is doable we can shove consumes into joker slots right?

[young echo]

probably removes from deck

[unkempt monolith]

with some buggy ahh mess

[young echo]

nope

[unkempt monolith]

bring back v0.8.7

les go

[unkempt monolith]

hater

why dont you believe

[young echo]

the reaons it puts in deck is cause you play the card and the game thinks you are playing that consumable

maybe yoou can use invis joker with this and add invis to deck?

[unkempt monolith]

yeah thats what im thinking

this bug + WW3

so how do you do the glitch

[full siren]

watch my video

[unkempt monolith]

you use a consume then savescum?

[full siren]

^^^

[unkempt monolith]

lazy

[full siren]

it's 40 seconds

and you have 2x speed

[young echo]

it is the ww3 glitch, but on playing cards

+a bit extra spice

[unkempt monolith]

think about it though

what if you sell invis, it dupes, then that duped joker is thought of a playing card

then boom, you have blueprint as a playing card

also we should probably make a new thread for this

[young echo]

use WW3 since its the same glitch?

or new bug report?

[unkempt monolith]

new bug report

this is consumeable ww4

maybe WW5

WW deluxe prehaps?

[young echo]

Konsumable Kard Karrying (KKK)

[full siren]

💀

[unkempt monolith]

AYO

[full siren]

We’re definitely calling it that now

[unkempt monolith]

im asain (i dont mind though)

[young echo]

XD

[odd sorrel]

lol accidently got chip only whilst playing on plasma

[unkempt monolith]

can we not just name it CCC

[full siren]

Plasma is a source of mult

[young echo]

CCC works

[unkempt monolith]

id appreciate shadowbulb not getting banned

[young echo]

or CCD Consumable Card in Deck

[full siren]

3C?

[unkempt monolith]

C^2 /j

[full siren]

C^3

[unkempt monolith]

Card confusion

CC

its punny

[tired matrix]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck i accidentally started a new run instead of continued my glitched one 😦

[unkempt monolith]

rip someone should make multiple saves as a mod

[full siren]

I did that so many times I copied the save in case I did that

[odd sorrel]

lol why is this talk not in https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1200105253559873707

[unkempt monolith]

we did

#1212937474737963078 message

[full siren]

not kidding, GLITCHED might be a good seed for straight flush only

I got a straight flush naturally before running out of discards in the first two hands

[safe garden]

what was your deck like here ?

[full siren]

A lot of poly steel red seal kings I assume

[safe garden]

a lot of what? xD I just played the seed, but just lost very early

do i need to hold the starting hex or use it instant on perkeo? And how do you even get that much cards?

[vocal hull]

you get the cards with pereko cryptid

[safe garden]

ahh okay

[north vine]

Hey guys, how can i go to the top of the discussion ?

[tired matrix]

i figured out a card dupe without needing any jokers/tarots/spectrals

can be performed on the first blind

[full siren]

Please tell us how, would love to know

[raven swan]

even better #1200105253559873707

[magic flame]

Anyone know what the record for highest round is?

[young echo]

39 is the limit without glitches

Idk if anyone actually reached it

[magic flame]

ante 39?

thats crazy

[young echo]

thats when blind score hits integer limit

40 is max with glitches ig

[magic flame]

i could probably go a little bit higher than this with some optimization/better luck

[young echo]

might be a best, idk

[magic flame]

that was no skips aswell

with skips could possibly get to ante 33

[young echo]

dang

[tribal sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1navgebm6M

epic run

this dude in video got epic run

[full siren]

gj drspectred

[young echo]

drspectreds the goat

[odd sorrel]

What are the base scores for the secret hands?

[manic stream]

these are all the hand scores

[odd sorrel]

thank you

[raven swan]

#1212154374206259200

[slim meteor]

what happens after? is it just impossible to beat even if going inf yourself?

[young echo]

yeah

even with mr bones

[slim meteor]

huh?

selling bp actually worked kekw

[unkempt monolith]

diet coke moment

but that got patched

so its probably similar

tbh i really do not like luchadors design

[slim meteor]

i still dont get why it doesnt work outside of its fight

[young echo]

maybe if iyt made it so boss was halfchips on sell but youhave to be on boss blind it would be atleastmid

though tbf thats only a 2x 1 time

[celest gale]

Does this work on switch?

[full siren]

No, since 1.0.0b/1.0.0c uses different seed generation for packs

[young echo]

anyone have a seed with red seal steel king?

ante 1

[slim meteor]

does the mr bones protect vs crimson heart if its debuffed or it stays debuffed?

[unkempt monolith]

what if crimson heart debuffs luchador and you try to sell it 🤔

[crisp locust]

you lose. it stays debuff i think

[gritty locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nltHmlXRBQU

Damn, he finally beated the game

[odd sorrel]

fr lol

[tranquil talon]

not the first!

[odd sorrel]

I don't remember who it was though maybe it was Trousers?

[tranquil talon]

I think it was Trousers, yeah
first naneinf score for sure

quick turn around time between you going "what if...?"
and then he just did it

[odd sorrel]

I don't know what we should name the Perkeo bs/bp cryptid strat cause saying it like that is kinda long

[tranquil talon]

Dwarf Hands

[manic stream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/IBPlJBHj5P either this man is the luckiest man alive or I just found another cheated run on reddit

[odd sorrel]

aoint no way this is real

[manic stream]

Yeah i doubt

[odd sorrel]

like if its real why does he have 4 burglars? there is no reason to have more than 1 hand when you go for a ante 39 run as playing multiple hands does prety much nothing

And math would have found this seed in the searcher and we would probably be running it

[manic stream]

There's only 1 burglar what are you on about

[odd sorrel]

oh shit I though all the jokers on the left were burglars 😂

[tired matrix]

what do you think isnt real about it?

is it unseeded or something

[odd sorrel]

modded

[manic stream]

The amount of blueprints and brainstorms he has

And the amount of negatives and polychrome

[tired matrix]

when you get to later antes its not weird to have that many

the error at the end is real too

[manic stream]

There's a difference when you have 15 negatives of cards like that

[odd sorrel]

Invis joker removes negative yet his hand size is 22 max so he must have had all of the negatives through sheer luck and not the spec card and I dont think a seed like that ever exists

[manic stream]

And over like 5 polychrome

[tranquil talon]

It's not that he has a lot of Negatives but that he has a lot of specific Negatives,
like 5 copies each of Negative Brainstorm and Blueprint

[manic stream]

I mean it's both tbh

[odd sorrel]

and the total number of bs/bp is crazy

[manic stream]

I think someone just wanted reddit clout and just randomly gave his jokers editions

[tired matrix]

unrelated but do you know how seeds are calculated/generated? my seeds are unseeded after doing some glitches and i cant seem to fix it

[odd sorrel]

come on he reseted for 2 hours and got a neg bs 🤨

[manic stream]

Sorry but there's no way in hell a seed like this actually exists

Yeah 35 jokers in a run sorry but bullshit

[raven swan]

insane gamesense tbh

[tired matrix]

definitely cant get a run like that in 2 hours though, ive reset gold stakes for longer lol

[odd sorrel]

lol fr did he not know that cryptid is like 1e6 to 9 compared to planets that are 1.5 with observatory?

[odd sorrel]

same

[raven swan]

nah I mean that he didnt know sixth sense and seance exist

[manic stream]

While I'm happy for debug mode it just can easily invalidate any run that doesn't show the seed

[odd sorrel]

oh okay

[odd sorrel]

fr

[manic stream]

And even then we would need a seed analysis tool

[odd sorrel]

that and the fact that people can mod runs

[manic stream]

Like if I wanted I could make a run that will look crazier than that

[tranquil talon]

I don't want to name names, because it's against the server rules,
but I saw someone post 100% completion++ here with only 150 wins.
And then looking back at their post history, they had 20% only two days before.

[tired matrix]

if you unlock all at start i could see gold sticker all with only 150 wins

[full siren]

The standards definitely have to go up

For validating runs

A playback/run-logging mod would be important for ensuring that the run was legitimate even for people who weren’t recording runs

[tranquil talon]

Thunk said he might implement something like that himself once dailies go live

[full siren]

I think that was about if there were as ever a longer-term leaderboard for some list of seeded runs/restrictions, which would be a post-daily thing if implemented

[tranquil talon]

O, maybe a longer term thing, yeah

You right

[full siren]

With that in mind a mod like that would be beneficial, especially if things like the community WR doc become more prestigious

[tranquil talon]

Yeah, it's kind of the wild west right now lol

[odd sorrel]

LOL I have been grinding gold stake for sticker comp and I have about 35% done though I only have 50 ish wins I'd say that about 10 of those wins were on gold stake maybe more. In theory its possible but it's waaayy too ewrly to have comp++

[manic stream]

I imagine trying to get gold on Michel isn't going to be fun

It getting deleted before final hand

[odd sorrel]

You can reroll before final boss and get lucky

[tranquil talon]

It's common, too

[odd sorrel]

like some jokers that are gonna be hard is invis, seance, yorick (if you get him late) etc

[tranquil talon]

My plan for legendaries is to reroll for shop 1 legendaries (around 0.5%) on checkered deck. And then my plan for the rares is to do rerolls on Plasma Deck because you cam theoretically win with only +500 Chips from Jokers

[odd sorrel]

lol I just opened my game and I forgot I was on this run

[odd sorrel]

Thats really smart and saves a lot of time ima do that to thx for the idea

[full siren]

I can’t wait till someone attempts the “All Gold Stickers” speedrun and has to reroll this for several hours

[tranquil talon]

"Oops all rerolls" speedrun

[manic stream]

We need a mod that let's you see the future shop instead of trying to play and then reroll

Like a shop seer mod or something

[full siren]

No way that would be allowed for runs though

Would be a cool mod

[odd sorrel]

Stop feeding us bad ideas math I'm already cooking a jokerless guide because I plan to run for jokerless wrs and I don't wanna do a 400 page 100% glitchless speedrun guide

[manic stream]

Nah I think about it for casual gameplay

[full siren]

Not even my idea, that category is already on the speedrun page

[odd sorrel]

what

aint no way

[manic stream]

Like I'm playing random seed gold stake plasma and I wanna find stuntman

So i just look in shop

If nothing go next

[full siren]

Someone should write a guide on ante 1 small blind

[manic stream]

Everything is loaded at run start right? So theoretically it should be possible

[odd sorrel]

fr so many people use two hands

[full siren]

You could use seed searcher-type behavior so it would always be possible

[full siren]

Depending on what you’re optimizing that would be okay

[odd sorrel]

On my jokerless guide I'm gonna have a section specificaly for every ante which explains what you should do (ish) and Ima fully explain ante 1 sb

[full siren]

Usually you can one shot it but if you see a 200 point hand and just want to make it out quickly then that’s okay at the cost of $1

[odd sorrel]

Yeah but for jokerless that $1 can take you far

[queen hazel]

@tranquil talon I got it off screen btw lmao

[manic stream]

What in the fuck

How

Jesus perkeo is getting abused

Cryptid spam I'm guessing?

[queen hazel]

yeah

one of the old runs on the 1.0.0j seed

but i forgot to show it

[manic stream]

Btw once I get my new gpu I'll try setting up runs for possibly an ante 8 attempt at inf

Only math will have to help me with the code since when it comes to setting the filters idfk what I'm doing

[queen hazel]

ohh

cool

if you find a good seed can you post it?

ill definitely want to try

[manic stream]

Ofcourse I will

Definitely*

[queen hazel]

ty

[manic stream]

Also @queen hazel now I realize it's the same guy who made this video https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/s/nn5qBNk6Ws that you called out before

And he says both runs were random

[queen hazel]

Oh yeah

[slim meteor]

thank fuck i got lucked out with some of them before even getting all gold deck lol

i cant imagine grinding for them

[slim meteor]

does 4 finger + tribe work on 4oak?

ill save the run for tomorrow, but i just got both of them, and i dont want to f up my last run because of that not working

[tranquil talon]

It do, yeah

[near mortar]

I've got a vile idea:
If you can't get repeat tarot cards from The Emperor, as in, it won't create anything you currently have (unless you have a Showman), then wouldn't the following setup be possible?
The Infinite Campfire

• Perkeo, giving you a negative copy of every tarot card, except The Fool, The Emperor and some other random card of your choice
• Campfire
  So, after you have all the negative tarots, you use The Emperor, get The Fool, sell the other tarot card, use The Fool, get The Emperor... rince and repeat.
  You get infinite money and campfire multiplier? would be very tedious but technically possible to go into a truly infinite run like that? Might take like literal hundreds of years of clicking even with like five copies lmfao

[gritty locust]

You got limit by how many fool on default, but at least 2 times amount of the fool you have

[near mortar]

could you elaborate a bit? not sure what you mean

[gritty locust]

Fool -> Emperor/ High Priestess -> sell 2 consumable

So 1 Fool only like 2 consumable in nutsell

[near mortar]

um sure, that makes sense. I mean, to make use of this you would most likely need to use scripts anyway, but i guess that makes it a bit more efficient

it would still take an absurd amount of time to get thru Ante 39

which was 10 to the power of 300 if i remember right?

but TECHNICALLY possible

[gritty locust]

Ante 39 is Naneinf

[near mortar]

wasnt it Ante 40

atleast I heard so, but yea

[full siren]

People already went infinite but for infinite money that’s a busted idea

And should be possible

[gritty locust]

1.8 e308

[near mortar]

point being even copying campfire 5 times its gonna take years, even if selling 20 cards a second with scripts or something lol

[gritty locust]

Or 2^ 1024

[full siren]

Hell, do it while holding every tarot card! You’ll get two fools

[near mortar]

wait what

it works like that?

[full siren]

(Since fool is the default when everything is taken)

[near mortar]

ooooh

neat

[near mortar]

correct me if im wrong about this btw

[full siren]

I think you can still only use one at a time but then if you want you have a bunch of extra fools lying around to use

[near mortar]

maybe i am overestimating

[full siren]

Probably an underestimate tbh

[near mortar]

lmao

[full siren]

If you had 20 copies of campfire I think it would still take longer to go infinite

[near mortar]

oh right its easy to calculate isnt it?

you need uhh

a number to the power of 6 that would reach e308

[full siren]

Pretty much e(308/6)

[gritty locust]

e62

[near mortar]

omfg

[gritty locust]

Isn't 5 campfire is 308/5?

[near mortar]

ok assuming 20 sells a second with scripts like how i theorized...

[full siren]

I do love that idea because of the infinite money potential

[near mortar]

im assuming 5 copy jokers

because you can sell Perkeo

[full siren]

There’s animation cooldowns so unless you cheat your game speed you’ll be stuck at 1 every 2-3 seconds

[near mortar]

dont need it after getting all the tarots

[near mortar]

oh this sucks lmao

[full siren]

It is rly cool though for the infinite money potential

[gritty locust]

Macro overnight lmao

[near mortar]

for e100 years straight?

[full siren]

There was a glitch that did that in the demo but got patched, this is like that but a bit weaker (since tarots sell for less) and probably won’t be patched (because of the tedious setup)

[near mortar]

what is infinite money even good for though

well

its fun tho yea

[gritty locust]

1 shot with bull

[full siren]

lol

It’s also cool because you can get an infinite amount of any other tarot

And you can manipulate the one you want by selling only that one

So you can pretty much get whatever tarot you want whenever you want

And change your entire deck into whatever you want

And with judgement you can get infinite jokers if you try long enough (because of negatives

[near mortar]

I just calculated that you can get 21600 xMult on the campfire if you spend literally every second of an entire day

[young echo]

I mean with multiple campfires that can be pretty big, but not big enough

[near mortar]

7 884 000 in a year

[near mortar]

^^

so uhh

e56 years

to beat e308 blind

lol

[young echo]

lol

[full siren]

Do you know what’s much faster?

[near mortar]

who is going to commit?

[young echo]

btw math what is the base voucher?

[full siren]

Duping copies of judgement and getting several negative copies of Mime, Baron, Blueprint, Brainstorm, the bean joker, and changing your entire deck into steel kings

[full siren]

Tarot Tycoon iirc

But I might be wrong

[near mortar]

but thats boooriiing

xd

[full siren]

xd

[young echo]

I wonder what is the biggest score we can get past infinite

[near mortar]

well

[full siren]

with that it’s unbounded

[near mortar]

now you know, technically any score

[full siren]

Which is the crazy thing

[near mortar]

with this

its only down to how dedicated you are!

[full siren]

Even with Showman issues, you can just dupe fools and then use judgement with showman until you almost run out of fools, then rinse and repeat

[young echo]

me when I get 5 showmen

[gritty locust]

Imagine you get neg eternal blueprint

[near mortar]

oh right i forgot to ask

what happens when your hand size goes below 1?

[gritty locust]

You die

[near mortar]

do you just draw nothing

[gritty locust]

I tried

[near mortar]

oh cool good to know lol

sad

[gritty locust]

Stuntman + 3 ectoplasm moment

[near mortar]

no fun with ectoplasm abuse

[young echo]

I still think the ectoplasm nerf was a bit much

[manic stream]

I said that since the nerf went live

Join the line

[near mortar]

I guess the only way to get infinite jokers now is with infinite money and Showman, so you can just keep rerolling and getting all the negatives?

[manic stream]

And invis

Invis is just sad

[near mortar]

I love Invis whats wrong with it

[gritty locust]

Gamble

[manic stream]

The fact it doesn't copy negatives

[near mortar]

I keep ruining my runs at Ante 5 because neuron activation, sell everything

[full siren]

Or your infinite emperor fool chain idea with judgement

[near mortar]

oh right

[full siren]

Even without Showman, you can still get lots of the default joker, Jimbo

[near mortar]

judgement can give negatives

[young echo]

If only invis didnt strip negative

[near mortar]

ooh 🤔

wait

but if you dont have a showman

wouldn't you get it?

since it will be the last one remaining

i guess youre saying that if showman didnt exist or something

[full siren]

You’d get it if you rolled an uncommon

But if you roll a common or a rare you still won’t get it because of the way joker rng works

[near mortar]

oh

thats odd

[full siren]

Yeah, it’s one quirk of the system

I think people got Jimbo when using Soul while having every legendary joker

[near mortar]

oh yeah i remember hearing about that

i wish it was possible to use Judgement even if your joker slots are full

and if it doesnt give you negative it just goes

like wheel of fortune

[manic stream]

I still think the nerf should be undone with a mod

[raven swan]

why tho, I think it was the right choice, currently perkeo negative spam gets so dumb, to a point where it's entirely different game

imo perkeo should be nerfed to not give negatives, or to have a limit at the very least

[young echo]

I mean you can only get 2 ectoplasms before its not worth it

[raven swan]

what I'm trying to say, with jokers it would be the same story

[raven swan]

troubadour

[young echo]

ok then you can get 3 ectoplasms with 1 trobadour until its not worth it

[raven swan]

we're talking about duping negatives though

I don't think it needs to be in the base game

[young echo]

Idk

I think it could be like the first 1 is -1 and rest -2

[raven swan]

also campfire can clutch a run for you, but once you introduce infinity it's so unfun to go through all your cash to grow it

[unkempt monolith]

i hate campfire

the joker-

and thats my very non objective opinion

[slim meteor]

that was very anticlimatic way to finish the stakes

[dire garden]

i can understand obelisk but youre just wrong there

[gritty locust]

It's fine until the part called: Reset after round

[dire garden]

its still an amazing joker

[gritty locust]

Only good for high ante run if you happens to have a lot of purple seal card

[raven swan]

It gives good and easy Xmult. But its design is just weird. Having to sell stuff turns into routine you have to go through every round for that 10% increase of x5 mult already
I'm very glad actually that burnt didn't end up being "sell stuff" joker

[unkempt monolith]

Yeah and burnt current abil still has the "burn" aspect

But like I cannot economy enough to where I can comfortably feed campfire

Unless I have a eternal cartomancer or 8ball, I skip campfire all the time

[dire garden]

skill issue

[young echo]

people sleepin on to the moon econ

and cloud nine is basically better gold joker econ

[slim meteor]

do the vouchers unlock only after the run* end?

[young echo]

idk

try going to main menu and continue the run

[slim meteor]

well, i bought the last card on the last ante, than beat next round, checked again, still stayed locked. beat final boss and obviously after going to main menu it unlocked

very weird that vouchers dont unlock as jokers in the current run

[unkempt monolith]

Okay wait nvm

[slim meteor]

kek

[young echo]

?

[slim meteor]

i assume thunk "fixed" the glitches like duping invis or adding planets to the deck

[young echo]

yeah

[slim meteor]

well, i have my game still open with 1.0.0l

[young echo]

xd you goof

[slim meteor]

always wanted to try that glitch, how do you do it again?

[young echo]

search me saying doc

and theres a google doc about how to all thebugs

[slim meteor]

i dont want to look at all the bugs

im afraid to do them for getting stickers

[young echo]

youll be fine

just do it seeded or smthin

[slim meteor]

im serious, i have a problem with that

[young echo]

or just dont win

[slim meteor]

i can test something and relaunch the game knowing that i wont be able to do that

but learning something that is still not fixed.... id rather pass

[young echo]

ok

[slim meteor]

can Certificate give non basic cards?

[raven swan]

I think it does exactly what it says, just a card with seal

[slim meteor]

i assume you meant seal? i guessed so, but wanted to double check in case i was very unlokcky or smth

[raven swan]

yes, sorry, brain fried

[slim meteor]

where can i find percentage things like joker vs tarot in shop or soul/blackhole chances?

[young echo]

Wait for MathIsFun_ Ig

[full siren]

Joker is 20/28, tarot is 4/28

[slim meteor]

@full siren pinging for when you have time. im looking for shop chances (including ghost deck) both types and rarity, soul/blackhole chances (i assume they are same for tarot/spectral) and what bosses are available at which ante

[full siren]

I forgot spectral odds but I think it just lowers it to +4/32

I’ll answer the rest later, I’m a bit busy

[slim meteor]

planets 4/28?

[full siren]

Honestly I’ll make a doc later just to have it all in one place

[tribal sage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfl-KIpJDeI

this is crazy run

[unkempt monolith]

why does this forum still exist

[full siren]

it's #seed-discussion basically

[slim meteor]

i usually jsut use this chat to ask for questions that normal people wont be able to answer

[raven swan]

@tranquil talon btw, the other day you said that the arm does not trigger matador, I knew that wasn't true, but now I have video proof, finally got matador build going 😹
It triggers on the flint as well

the only thing it does not make sense on is the tooth as far as I know

[tranquil talon]

😂 you got me

[manic stream]

This channel just became a general chat for seeds i love it xd

[slim meteor]

hook?

[raven swan]

it does not work on hook? I don't think I tested it there

[slim meteor]

suit hates, mouth eye, pillar, arm and plant. does it work on anything else?

[raven swan]

leaf too Ig

it does not work with cards face down bosses, needle, manacle, water, tooth, all final bosses other than leaf

probably does not work with serpent

actually, it might work with crimson heart? because playing hand switches the debuffed joker 🤔

[raven swan]

psychic

I think crimson heart and serpent very unlikely tbh

the hook is very likely, because there is an instance where it might not trigger - 5 or less cards in hand, all played

works on 14/28 boss blinds, I guess, useful only on 13

[slim meteor]

hook doesnt work

both hook and tooth doesnt work, even tho they should

#1203578282709094491 message im pretty sure thats the only bosses that it work on, excluding final ones. ok psychic aswell

wait, are you sure it works on flint?

[raven swan]

yup

100%

didn't record because I didn't expect it to, and it was 1 shot

[slim meteor]

i mean, even than, its still shit ton of money, if you are going against bosses that it works against

[raven swan]

yeah

only works on the arm if it actually reduces hand level btw

so does not trigger with level 1 hand

3$-4$ spent to upgrade hand, gain 8$ from matador

[slim meteor]

so weird that this boss is so weak now. basically big big blind on low antes

[raven swan]

maybe ante 2, ante 3 when you rely on planets it can screw you

[slim meteor]

you rarely know what planets you are going for on ante 3 tbf, unless erratic/abandoned

[raven swan]

almost lost me a run once, nerfed my straights and I couldnt find saturn for a while

I already know what planets to go for ante 2-3

unless the stuff I get is pretty generic

[slim meteor]

unless you are rerolling for something specific, you very often end up with generic things for antes 1-2

[faint rose]

is naneinf the new missingno

[odd sorrel]

OMD I'M A GENIUS HEAR ME OUT

A WAY TO GET TO ENDLESS WITH 0 POINTS

Use a super perkeo dupe machine on ghost deck with ankh then in the later antes get mister bones and keep duping him to win

oops I forgot mr bones has the 25% rule am dum rip strat

[slim meteor]

imagine if mr bones actually protected you from any fight 👀

[full siren]

I had a crazy idea with the ankh ectoplasm dupe strategy

If you buy the grabber voucher when you’re at 0 hand size, even if you should be deep in the negatives from ectoplasm, does it give you 1 hand size?

[stiff jacinth]

did you mean paintbrush/palette?

[raven swan]

it shouldn't

the hand size is in negatives, but displayed as max(0, hand size) = 0

[odd sorrel]

I tried

[full siren]

Ah, its visual

Checks out

Localthunk thought of that already

[raven swan]

#1204200450879004682 message yeah

I remembered that message when I saw the bean not saving from negative hand size 😭 took me a bit to find it

[stiff jacinth]

wait new idea (inspired from recent discussion)

try eternal joker stencil with perkeo ankn ectoplasm

[raven swan]

#1209513992519946250 message

[slim meteor]

just to confirm, tarot/planet merchant vouchers change the odds of them from 4/28 to 8/28 or to 8/32?

[full siren]

8/32

[unkempt monolith]

why is all i see on youtube is the "52 10 of spades erratic" deck 😭

[slim meteor]

funny broken seed go brrrr

[unkempt monolith]

its not even that broken

not enough strength

[slim meteor]

it is broken in the sense of seed design

[unkempt monolith]

fair enough

are there any others that we may know of

im thinking $52 cloud nine is nice

[slim meteor]

from what i understand, 10 of spades is a critical value that cards are defaulted into (if something breaks), therefor there is high likelyhood of no other similar seed existing (but dupes of that existing)

[unkempt monolith]

oh

that makes sense

10s are dumb

but makes sense

also ig the chances of 1/52^52 is less than the # of possible seeds

[slim meteor]

also this seed even more funny, since you also get walkie talkie in the first shop 🙃

[unkempt monolith]

lmao

i saw a negative hit the road

just saying

anyways speaking of dumb youtube stuff

it feels so weird that aliensrock went mind blown once he hit e19

[odd sorrel]

Aight I just tested this and if you have 25 certificates with negative x handsize you still lose the cards do not get created

[young echo]

that is very upsetting

why wont it just be easy smh

maybe chicot with manacle?

or luchador or smthin

[silver oriole]

Any tips on how to use stencil joker?

Or is it more of an early pick up to carry then replace it later kind of joker

[raven swan]

it is, unless you also use ankh

if you have 2 stencils, both give x2 mult

if you pick up eternal one, you can use ankh even more

so 3 stencils would give you x3 mult each

[silver oriole]

oh nice so they dont interact with each other

as in they dont count as "other jokers"

[raven swan]

yep

[silver oriole]

Nice one thanks

[raven swan]

stencil counts as an empty slot

[silver oriole]

Apoligies just realised i posted this in a thread i was looking at last night and not the game-discussion channel feel free to get rid of those messsages if needed!

[slim meteor]

if you have eternal + non, and use ankh, do you always lose non eternal?

[raven swan]

#1202386969867595827 message

[slim meteor]

out of curiosity, if you get perkeo + all tarots copied, cant you infinetely chain emperor?

[raven swan]

ye

you'll always get fool

[slim meteor]

does it work?

[slim meteor]

fool + emperor + (planets/money)

[young echo]

technically yes

and if we do that with a glitch similar to this https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215252474840223795 we can have some funky things happen with maybe infinite rares or smthin

idk

math said its technically possible

[raven swan]

I mean what's the point tho

farm emperor fool stats? 😭

[slim meteor]

infinite money. is there really no benefit of this?

[raven swan]

not really? 😭

other than the time waste

[vocal hull]

you could get infinite planet levels

[young echo]

like I said if math figures out how to use immolate to find seeds with the glitch and use it well enough maybe somthin like judgement will be the same negative every time and junnk

Idk

[slim meteor]

also, how does eternal seltzer/mr bones work?

[young echo]

they dont

[vocal hull]

I guess you could cycle with judgement until you get negatives

[slim meteor]

you dont get the bonus after it experies? or it destroys through eternal?

[young echo]

you just cant get it

[vocal hull]

they can't be eternal

[slim meteor]

what happens on typecast than?

[young echo]

doesnt work

[slim meteor]

they dont become eternal?

[young echo]

this was from a bug report I saw

wee joker is cursed lol

[slim meteor]

wee joker eternal looks kidna scuffed lol

yeah

[full siren]

I know how, but it’s not that OP

[full siren]

This is true

The planet that you always get with the bug is Eris so with something like 8 ball, copying jokers, and showman, you can get lots of flush five levels

(The game will hang if you have multiple eris planets, since showman can’t let that happen)

[slim meteor]

why cant you have multiple eris with showman?

[full siren]

No you can with Showman

If you don’t have Showman the game will always try to generate Eris and fail, causing it to hang

[raven swan]

finally got some decently lucky endless run 🫡 no negatives and antimatter unfortunately

[young echo]

dang

thats a lot of sock n buskin holy

[raven swan]

ye invis kept dropping on it 😭

[young echo]

I might be wrong but you seem to have 5 red seal glass kings so wouldnt 4 sock n buskin be better? I dont wanna do the maths

[raven swan]

poly glass kings yeah

I think it does not matter?

[young echo]

probably not now that I think about it

idk

[raven swan]

I didn't have 10 glass to test it cuz some broke to get there

[young echo]

Im to lazy to maths

I guess it wouldve been better with bp on sock n buskin and bs on idol

maybe

idk

[raven swan]

5 triggers X 4.5 idols

so I think it's the best setup

[young echo]

idk

maths hard

[raven swan]

you want triggers x idols to be even

or +1 on idol

[young echo]

but each trigger is 4x and each idol 2x

idk

[raven swan]

not how it works tho

(2^(idols))^(triggers)

= 2^(idols * triggers)

5 x 5 = 25
4 x 6 = 24

[young echo]

idk

I need to stop saying idk

XD

[raven swan]

3 x 7 = 21
etc.

so you want to have them even

[young echo]

I get that

[raven swan]

glass is like an extra idol

so yea

[young echo]

Aliensrock explained it to me in his first balatro video

[odd sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-gif-12239950076086292480

[barren echo]

guys i really dont understand what seed u uses cause in all screenshots it is different and in a title it can be only from demo(and what all this seeds below the title?)

So which seed is current?

[full siren]

LE9PWG7D is the naneinf seed used in the latest version

I should probably update title and description

[barren echo]

thx

[full siren]

[LE9PWG7D - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

Discussion has been pretty off topic here lol so hopefully this clarifies things for newcomers

[raven swan]

it was high score discussion !!

[full siren]

lol I called it that after people started talking about their crazy runs here

Originally it was for the high score seed in 0.9.3

[manic stream]

Now the question is how fast inf can be done

[full siren]

I’m a firm believer that naneinf non-endless is possible

With a searched seed

[manic stream]

I wonder if it can be done without plasma on ante 8

[ebon plaza]

I guess I'm behind the times. what is the bugged seeds, and what are people doing to use them to get these naneinf

[full siren]

So there’s an RNG bug that allows the game to repeat a specific RNG value over and over again, which allowed for an erratic deck seeds with all of the same card to exist: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1215252474840223795. Doesn’t help for high score though.

The primary strategy for high score relies on two things: Steel cards which give you Xmult and Perkeo, which can copy spectrals.

You use Perkeo to get as many copies as possible of Cryptid, which you can use to get as many steel cards in your hand as you need to win. You can boost your score by also giving your steel a red seal and getting jokers that boost their scoring, like Baron and Mime

[ebon plaza]

okay, got it. so 2 different discussions then

[full siren]

I wrote the searcher that found the seed so I know the details of the bug if you’re curious. But this thread is more about high score strategies so you could go to the thread about that seed or my searcher to inquire more :)

There’s some other things you can exploit with that bug that I want to search for once I get access to my GPU again

[raven swan]

sad that my baron run also ends ante 20 😭

[young echo]

Rip

The plant ruins so many high round builds

Im assuming no directors cut or smthin?

[raven swan]

new score PB but considering this is plasma, not that impressive

[young echo]

oof, every voucher basically EXCEPT directors cut

[raven swan]

yup

got the head early enough that I could just 1 shot it with bull, but the plant ante 20 is just sad 😭

[young echo]

😔

[tired matrix]

the head is SOARING

[final ocean]

did this seed die?

[raven swan]

the seed in the title is still valid, at least on PCs (version 1.0.0n-FULL)

consoles may have an older version, so you'd need an older seed

[final ocean]

yeah i was making a stupid mistake lol, i got it figured out