#[LE9PWG7D - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

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odd sorrel
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Ive only seen perkeo and caino

manic stream
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having 5oak queens with trib blueprint and sock and buskin is mad score

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if only i knew and got some glass

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this was without any glass

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baseball made the run so easy until it was time to sell it

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i had like 3 uncommons with baseball and 2 polys with blueprint

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run was so easy lmao

young echo
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I swear this statistic is wrong, its been more then 30 hours of me playing

odd sorrel
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lol this is my play time

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I must have played for more time though

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I feel like Ive played 40 hours

young echo
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ikr

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I almost fell for it

odd sorrel
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fr he appears every other run man

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either egg or macho or wathever his name is

young echo
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how does bp stencil work?

young echo
odd sorrel
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btw the run I'm on:

young echo
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LOL

odd sorrel
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with level 12 flush

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man could you not

young echo
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Meanwhile me

odd sorrel
raven swan
young echo
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I got throwback

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3 tens lol

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oo new experimental just dropped

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if I had bs I wouldve won 😭

raven swan
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good bye green sticker on the jimbo 😭

young echo
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lol

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what legendary

raven swan
young echo
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the worst one

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imo

odd sorrel
raven swan
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I was going to win either way tbf

young echo
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super straight gay

odd sorrel
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Yorick is good if you get him early

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I say that in order its: Perkeo, Triboulet, Caino, then Yorick and Chicot are tied

young echo
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if only the runner was eternal and not the glass joker

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got 4 steel cards from incantation XD

raven swan
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"if you get him early" applies to caino too

young echo
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so even this much power... it wasnt enough

raven swan
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perkeo probably good even ante 8, if you aim for endless

young echo
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if only this was plasma deck XD

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M7LBWZMI seed, skipped first blind for poly and ankh is super early somewhere

slim meteor
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What’s up with your font?

manic stream
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a custom font mod

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dont worry youre not the only one to question my font choice

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join the line in people that see this as cursed

raven swan
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yorick again 😭

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oh well

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ante 7 yorick 💪

young echo
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lol

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I also got yorrick 2 times in a row

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it was pain

raven swan
young echo
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sounds about right

young echo
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youve gotta be kiddin

full siren
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Arcana pack has emperor fool hermit chain

tribal sage
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so epic

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epik

young echo
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just saw 5 rares in 1 shop

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not a siongle bs or brainstorm

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or invis but I have invis in my slots

odd sorrel
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well I just played a run with 4 rares and I think this is it

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my highest hand is 6ish mil with perfect luck but I can only do it onces pretty much and after that my hands score 400k

young echo
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lol

odd sorrel
young echo
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ngl, this hand sucks

young echo
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fudge I crashed

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do be a lot of cards

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Oops wrong shop ig

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they must be closed today or something

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this is what happens when the game doesnt give me gold stake paint deck

young echo
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In rich get richer challenge you can get 0 chips with negative money

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so naneinf x 0 = ? is possible to try

odd sorrel
raven swan
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this run just got extremely saved ngl

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I was barely surviving

young echo
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stupid you are missing ww3

raven swan
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🙄

raven swan
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I win

young echo
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gj

odd sorrel
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fun little build

tired matrix
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finally beat checkered gold stake! have abandoned and checkered done now 🙂

young echo
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nice

young echo
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niceeee

odd sorrel
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rn I'm doing ghost cause its easy and I don't want anything hard as paint again

full siren
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When I do play on a non-unlocked profile the first gold stake I’m going for is erratic

tired matrix
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it feels weird to play a deck and not immediately go for flushes haha

odd sorrel
young echo
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Ive been preoccupied with my bug

full siren
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It’s pretty hard to check that a completion is first though when the game has over 250k downloads and it’s a vanilla goal to go for

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But that also might just be me lol

odd sorrel
full siren
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That’s also valid

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People could also probably cheat savefiles to show that they have gold stake

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There are save editors now

tired matrix
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ya people used that program on steam to unlock all the achievements when the game was released :\

young echo
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Ive done black stake ghost deck for past 30 minutes trying to see if ankh works for my glitch

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I avent seen ankh once

odd sorrel
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thats what I'm mad about cause truely theres only a handful of people that have gold stake but some got all of the decks like the game hasnt been out for a week

full siren
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Might have to add glitched/glitchless splits 🫠

young echo
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lol

high timber
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a friend of mine is asking if googol is lower than the score limit (so we can actually say googol was achieved)

young echo
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first shop ankh pog

high timber
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it's e308 yeah?

odd sorrel
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by a tiny bit I think

young echo
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e308 > googol

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google e100

vocal hull
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googol is 1e100

odd sorrel
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wait no nvm am dum

full siren
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I think it’s closer to googol^6 if the game supported over infinity

high timber
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i imagine

young echo
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It softlocks me ... good thing I tried ankh

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it didnt even dupe the poly mnster face

odd sorrel
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wdym

slim meteor
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completionist+ is gold stake on all decks* right?

odd sorrel
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yeah

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the reason why it should be impossible rn is because the game has been released 5 days ago which isnt enough time to accomplish this

plain lodge
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Completionist+ is impossible to get legit at this point, you need 8 wins with all 15 decks, so a total of 120 wins. If you can do that in less than 100 hours and winning every run and having hours of sleep you're superman

slim meteor
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just decks is not hard to finish within a week, and completionist ++ last time i checked was still on 0.0%

odd sorrel
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My guess is that people could finish it feasibly probably around the end of this weekend or beginning of next week but this is if you play constant nonstop

young echo
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I dont even have 2 decks yet

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and have like 40 hours at this point

odd sorrel
young echo
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anyways @ me a save file if you having a winning build on cerubean bell

slim meteor
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i have 45 (not sure how much of that is non afk tbf), but i got gold on most already

slim meteor
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nah, i only used unlocked to compare which jokers i should and should not* rush unlocking lol

slim meteor
odd sorrel
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how did you beat so many of em so fast in only 45h

young echo
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DANG

slim meteor
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might have one on orange, but only 3 left completely untouched

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i switched to challenges

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i got tired of losing on green

odd sorrel
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how tough was paint for you?

slim meteor
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on scale of 1-10? where 1 is checkered? 4

odd sorrel
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damn

slim meteor
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tbf, im rerolling start a lot, and just try to play in same pattern at this point

odd sorrel
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yeah same

young echo
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didnt have to do em dirty

slim meteor
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i kinda had fun already, but now when i got decks out of the way, im just "tryharding"

odd sorrel
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I think thats the meta for gold completion

slim meteor
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and i still have jokers to get stickers on lol

odd sorrel
tired matrix
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took me 30 hours to clear 2 decks and steam says .4% of people have cleared all decks already

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thats like 1000+ people

odd sorrel
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most of those are hacked probably all of them

slim meteor
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@odd sorrel can i ask, did you do the challenges?

tired matrix
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completionist++ will take months unless a cheat is found imo

odd sorrel
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because think about it to be that good you must have been on this discord to talk with the community and know the strats but they appear out of nowhere and bam but nobody claims that they did it in the chat

odd sorrel
odd sorrel
slim meteor
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people love plasma, but i will probably do that on checkered

tired matrix
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ya youll have to just use most of the jokers as extras on an already op game

odd sorrel
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no matter what to get completionist ++ were gonna need to find a setup thats consistant and achievable then hope for rng

raven swan
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good chips scaling on plasma should do it, no?

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wee and retriggers maybe

slim meteor
raven swan
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wee is rare tho

young echo
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or my bug

odd sorrel
raven swan
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by cheating or legitimately? 😹

young echo
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lol

odd sorrel
raven swan
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you can just copy save file with good start

slim meteor
young echo
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true

raven swan
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then finish with different jokers

odd sorrel
slim meteor
odd sorrel
slim meteor
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in 9+ territory there are some interesting ones

odd sorrel
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I know the last one and man it makes me depressed

slim meteor
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you could try them, i think if you beat them, it would be much easier to do decks

odd sorrel
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do you win anything or?

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skill lol

slim meteor
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i still have 2, i "just" switched to them

tired matrix
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i mean youre going to be resetting for dozens of hours on some of the harder decks just to get out of ante 2

raven swan
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green/black decks basically 😹

young echo
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why does cerubean bell have to be SO RARE

tired matrix
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then when you factor in decks like erratic youre going to be resetting for dozens of hours just to get a good deck... then hoping the jokers are good lol

odd sorrel
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I have 32.5 hours and like 11h of those are trying to get gold on paint 💀

young echo
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I just want to test my bug

odd sorrel
raven swan
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actually had bell twice today Idk wym 🙄

slim meteor
young echo
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somone died on cerubean bell seed

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pog

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now I can test my stuff

tired matrix
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has anyone made a gold stake deck tier list yet

odd sorrel
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probably not Ive only beaten red and paint 😦

tired matrix
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i mean you dont have to beat them, just kinda look at them lol

slim meteor
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what is "gold stake tier list"? tier list of stakes on scale how hard to beat them, jokers for the gold stakes, or....?

tired matrix
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which decks would be easiest/hardest to beat gold stake with

odd sorrel
young echo
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me personally, Im vegan so I dont like stakes

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I CANT WIN ON THIS SEED

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AHHHHHH

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I forgot to buy a planet to do the bug 😭

odd sorrel
young echo
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rippp

odd sorrel
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I mean I got to ante 11 but lost because I didnt have more jokers

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I wanted more xmult

young echo
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fair

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I want to do my bug to softlock my game on this fight but since the boss picks 1 card to always be selected goofy stuff may happen

odd sorrel
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man with more xmult i was gonna score 10 mil per high card 😦

young echo
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dang

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thing is build didnt get stone joker till ante 8

odd sorrel
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I had gotten marble joker round 1 with holo on it then got holo on like round 2 then mystic summit then bp

young echo
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theres also an ankh cryptid somewherei n there

odd sorrel
young echo
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nah

odd sorrel
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lol you used ankh on emperor

young echo
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nah

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thats not even possible

slim meteor
young echo
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hmmm

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tags

slim meteor
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no

young echo
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no wait those got changed

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hmmmm

unkempt monolith
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burglar

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3rd joker is burglar

young echo
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no

unkempt monolith
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nvm

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discards

young echo
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they have discards

unkempt monolith
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oph wait

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hierogylph would amke needle have 0 hands

young echo
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huh?

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what you on about

slim meteor
unkempt monolith
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ah

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thought it was some "secret buff"

slim meteor
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but specifically on needles (boss), it gives 2

unkempt monolith
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against specifically the needle

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yipper

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secret heiro buff

young echo
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huh?

slim meteor
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ok, fuck it, im going -2 hands

unkempt monolith
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XD

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but how would needle react 🤔

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1 hand only, 3 hands only?

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or 0 hands only balatrojoker

young echo
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-1 hands only

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I wanna test to get like 10000 vouchers with diet cola + WW3 + lots of money from perkeos

unkempt monolith
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makes sense

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ive gotten 1 legendary from the runs ive done within balatro

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i have 7.3 hours

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1 legendary

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and it was yorick

young echo
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I87BKXRP has perkeo if skip first blind and get both packs

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and then hex it

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and ankh next shop

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(ghost deck)

unkempt monolith
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also am i dumb or smth, bc doesn't yorick only get the x5 once, then you gotta discard again

young echo
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yeah its garbade

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basically loyalty card but way worst

unkempt monolith
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fr

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you cant fool soul right

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imagine

stiff jacinth
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you could’ve in the summer playtest when it was still a tarot, but not anymore

unkempt monolith
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LMAO

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makes sense

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it is a spec

young echo
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sadly ghost deck cant give soul

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probably

unkempt monolith
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makes sense

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technically it would mean you could buy legendaries in the shop

young echo
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true

slim meteor
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if thats true, it has to be bugged

unkempt monolith
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lmao

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yorick sucks

young echo
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yep

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its not even discard 23 cards which would still be trash

unkempt monolith
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why 23

young echo
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is that not the number

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I always insta sell it so idk

slim meteor
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10 gold is 10 gold

unkempt monolith
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ill keep it for temprance value and thats it

young echo
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how double perkeo with magic?

unkempt monolith
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i dont

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no ankh

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jkust ecvtoplasm

young echo
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you need ghost deck for the ankh

unkempt monolith
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i have 8 fools though

young echo
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and the hex

unkempt monolith
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lmao campfire

young echo
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ikr

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there is bs end of ante 2 if you spend a lot of cash (I think) and bp around ante 4

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or smthin

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idk

unkempt monolith
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damn

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bp/bs doesnt copy perkeo right

young echo
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they do

unkempt monolith
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gawd damn

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alright ig ill try and pull em

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but i gotta sleep soon

young echo
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OH SHOOT SLEEPING

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GN

unkempt monolith
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lol

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im very tempted to rip my 8 fools on wof

manic stream
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What decks do we know so far have been beaten on gold stake?

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I counted here plasma red painted and checkered

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Anyone done blue?

raven swan
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I did yellow

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was working on painted yesterday, but didn't finish it yet

manic stream
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Nice

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Also abandoned was done and blue

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And magic was done too

young echo
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I did ghost

unkempt monolith
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been suffering with black deck, died at ante 7 ;-;

raven swan
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waiting for that drspectred video on black deck to fix my skill issue with it

tired matrix
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damn! matador doesnt work with the tooth 😦

tranquil talon
tired matrix
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matador says earn $8 if played hand triggers the boss ability... thought id get $35 for playing a flush lol

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got a p good erratic deck 21 diamonds, lots of flush houses, and a flush five from the start

raven swan
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matador only triggers once per hand anyways

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it is "hand has/does/is X" effect

plain lodge
manic stream
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So green is also on the list

tired matrix
plain lodge
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Red and Blue were fairly easy to get going, green took me a couple of tries, yellow i have no idea because i just got lucky with a Throwback on the first shop and snowballed it out of control

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screenshot of yellow win, it's after the boss because it was acorn and i wanted to have the jokers on the screen

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but i'm on Black at the moment and it's way above the other 4 in difficulty so far

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the -1 hand at the start makes it harder to get stuff going

odd sorrel
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rn I'm taking a pause from deck completion and I'm trying to finish the challenges

plain lodge
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I stopped doing the challenges because it messed up my card stats, I did the first one a few times and suddenly egg was my most played card 😅

odd sorrel
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lol

odd sorrel
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well I think this is it for my best run

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vamp is at x10.8

young echo
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lol

odd sorrel
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blast off is a really fun challenge

young echo
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lol

odd sorrel
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these challenges keep getting easier

young echo
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lol

young echo
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isnt ante -1 possible?

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actually nvm no it isnt

odd sorrel
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ok rn I'm doing cruelty the 19th challenge and after hours I think I have a run here is where I'm at. I don't think I should replace anything, I run two pair and its level 13

odd sorrel
young echo
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nice

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lvl 41 is insaneeee

odd sorrel
tired matrix
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bloodstone hitting 0 times on 5 cards to lose the needle 😡

unkempt monolith
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rip

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this is why rng sucks

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but 1/243 chance is rough

tired matrix
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im pretty sure ive won all of my top tier stake games because of having an early burnt joker lol

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not to pull the ladder up now but i think it should be rare instead of uncommon its just so good

odd sorrel
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Burnt if you have at least 1 copy joker and get it early is probably the best combo in the game other than eternal jokers with madness

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and perkeo mime RPS kings

young echo
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Ive used burnt like 2-3 times

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its aight

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maybe I just play to risky with it?

odd sorrel
tranquil talon
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With Flushes is pretty savage

odd sorrel
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its the best hand I could go for I tried 2 pair but nope too low of a score

full siren
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also leaving that last Jupiter just to taunt us

odd sorrel
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no its for observatory 😂

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its pretty much an extra steel

young echo
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Just get per-

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nvm

odd sorrel
young echo
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I think I could do this with good tarot luck

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just get lots of 1 suit and justice and do flush houses

odd sorrel
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its a balance in between tarots and planet level

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I had level 18 flush

young echo
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who needs planet lvlwhen flush house glass

odd sorrel
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with 2 glass with 4 steel

young echo
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but also that was with violet vessel as boss

odd sorrel
young echo
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fair...

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I feel like with enough tarots though its not to bad

odd sorrel
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also if you get the leaf 💀

young echo
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  • savescumming to play other glasses whrn glass break
odd sorrel
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I was praying for heart

odd sorrel
young echo
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yes

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I savescum all day everyday

odd sorrel
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The wall
The arm
The psychic
The eye
The needle
The flint
Verdent leaf
Violet vessel

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this is a list of the bosses that could completly fuck you up even if you know what your doing

young echo
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directors cut helps

odd sorrel
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true but remember that your low on money the whole run

vocal hull
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psychic is bad for jokerless?

odd sorrel
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I was only rich cause I got immolate and kept my money abov 25 for interest

odd sorrel
young echo
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I mean you can solo first three antes

odd sorrel
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wdym?

young echo
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I mean roubds

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english is hard

odd sorrel
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yeah rounds but then you missout on possibly good chances to get early planets/tarots

young echo
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then get suit change tarots for straight flushes/full house ante 2

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and rhen ante 3 get justice fools

odd sorrel
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and it would take a while to reset for runs like that

young echo
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fair ig

full siren
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Can’t wait for Jokerless speedruns

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Those will be wild

odd sorrel
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like my strat was reset until either telescope or 2 jupiters or 1 jupiter and money

young echo
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I dont see why you cant do seeded challenge runs

odd sorrel
young echo
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I smean

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is it though?

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like seeded jokerless still god awful

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idk

odd sorrel
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yeah just use my seed its pretty straight forward get telescope then always open planet packs then if you have the money (above $25) buy tarot packs or cards in shop

young echo
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I need sleep

odd sorrel
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same I got school tmw

tired matrix
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getting under 20 cards is actually pretty difficult

young echo
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ikr

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just get perkeo shop 1

tired matrix
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was trying with abandoned deck but maybe ghost deck is better

young echo
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I mean the nyou would need immolates

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after I watch my aliensrock vids Ill try with you cause it sounds fun

odd sorrel
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perkeo immolate?

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other than that abandoned with trading card and luck with hanged man

tired matrix
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ya either way is luck based but abandoned starts with an advantage but each immolate is 2.5 hanged man so not sure if it evens out

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i doubt very many people have even done it since the percentages on steam are the same as all the cheaters lol

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.2%

odd sorrel
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Yeah same for the complete all challenges achievement aint no way some people already beat jokerless

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My thoery is that the testers still have their accounts and it didn'wipe their progress so they still have the achieves

tired matrix
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there are programs that unlock all achievements for you. a lot of people with a lot of steam games use them to get steam points and stuff

manic stream
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Steam achievement manager is how people get achievements

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I don't think it's bannable on steam but it just fakes your stats

tired matrix
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damn i had a 28 card deck but ran out of cards playing full houses lol

odd sorrel
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yeah I think the only real way to get the achieve is perkeo with immolate or hanged man because otherwise you lose because your out of cards

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omd rn I'm thinking of how difficult it will be to get gold sticker on legendaries

plain lodge
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I did it on magic deck without perkeo, restarted a lot for hanged man, got a very early trading card and 2 oe 3 immolates the whole run can't remember exactly

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this was the setup i had

young echo
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dang

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I forgot about trading card

plain lodge
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vouchers

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and final deck before removing the last one

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was only able to do it on endless tho

tranquil talon
young echo
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Consistently getting like 30 dollars a round but didnt get low enough

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+like 0 score

tired matrix
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was able to get down to 17 cards but then i got owned when the first hand was all face down...

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i couldnt tell which was my flush house, otherwise i probably could have went to endless

odd sorrel
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lol the fact that these are my last 2 challenges

young echo
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very normal balatrro screenshot

odd sorrel
young echo
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Yes

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that is what is happening

full siren
young echo
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/j I used hermit before pack opend similarly to my WW3 glitch and yeah

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then used fool for the 2nd hermit in top right

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hallucination also gaveme hermit

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anyways I actually got a lucky cat run going!

mossy garden
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lucky cat is impossible to synergize with

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so that is amazing

raven swan
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oops?

young echo
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29 deck size

mossy garden
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thin it into 20

young echo
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got sock and buskin with low deck size and magician jacks

raven swan
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  • retriggers
young echo
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Im tryin

tired matrix
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oops all 6s and lucky cat pop off

young echo
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true

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Id sell erosion for it

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this maybe do bp on oops all 6s?

raven swan
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you cant bp thaT?

young echo
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idk

raven swan
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I think just bp on sock and buskin works best

young echo
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but bp on sock and buskin is worst then bp on oops all 6s mathematically

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so well see

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first Ill have to restart the file

young echo
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I havent found a single hanged man for 2 antes

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not a single money activation 😭

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ah I did it

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2nd try

young echo
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10 activations of magic

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nice

tired matrix
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damn how do you always find the jokers you need lol

young echo
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idk

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magic deck got me lucky start

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and then I had like 100+ dollars throughout the run

plain lodge
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Any of you fellas already done gold stake black deck? I'm getting absolutely bodied by it, what a jump in difficulty from the previous 4

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been actually trying it for 2 days now, and got to ante 8 like 4 times, just too hard to get a good run going

young echo
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Kai might

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I got down to 16 deck size by the end

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1 proc away from invis poppin off

tired matrix
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i probably reset checkered gold for 5+ hours

dire garden
slim meteor
young echo
dire garden
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having parts of the ui in a completely different spot from where it's supposed to go

young echo
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Uh

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kinda

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Basically for some reason you can use consumables before a shop loads by continuing a run, clicking the consumable

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theres like a 1/10 chance you can use it

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basically, WWII but goofy

dire garden
#

world war II?

young echo
#

white whale II

manic stream
full siren
#

Did the game just stop drawing the cards back to deck in the middle? lol

full siren
raven swan
raven swan
#

some

pants

carry for the gold stake win

odd sorrel
odd sorrel
#

is it possible to get legendary jokers in the shop in any way like showman or something?

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then can you get eternal legendary jokers in any way?

young echo
#

nope

tranquil talon
#

oof, Painted Deck

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you're finally free

young echo
#

beat me to it lol

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cause Im busy busy busy

unkempt monolith
raven swan
unkempt monolith
#

Pls no black 😭

raven swan
#

I would never

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my least fav deck

unkempt monolith
#

Let me have the victory if I pull it lmao

unkempt monolith
#

I forgot how op cycling through deck is

raven swan
#

what is that supposed to mean

unkempt monolith
#

The deck

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Typo-ed decks

raven swan
#

ah, makes sense

unkempt monolith
#

Also has this forum literally just become "do impressive stuff then shove it here"

young echo
#

me when WW3 Black deck

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gold stake paint deck sucks

odd sorrel
#

it really does

#

but completionist+ am I right 🤠

young echo
#

lol

unkempt monolith
#

Black deck sucks early game

#

What deck should suck midgame?

#

Tbh probably yellow if anything

young echo
#

this isnt wrong ethnically at all

unkempt monolith
#

No

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But get a negative Todd and

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Then it is

young echo
#

lol

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😦

#

232

unkempt monolith
#

Neddle

faint rose
#

Noodle

tribal sage
#

lol

#

epic naneinf run

tranquil talon
#

It's a reupload

tranquil talon
#

@full siren
Skoottie is looking for a Perkeo inf seed.
Do you have any suggestions?

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Doesn't have to be the best one, just a good enough one

manic stream
#

theres also gothic looking for vagabond and credit card

full siren
plain lodge
#

3 days, i finally did it, f this deck xD

full siren
tranquil talon
#

The seed Trousers used, maybe?

manic stream
#

that wont work this version

queen hazel
#

yeah doesn't work in this version

full siren
#

If Skoottie is okay with downgrading the game to play the seed then it could still work

queen hazel
#

to do the infinite run things have to be done in a specific order which i could clarify

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if needed

tranquil talon
odd sorrel
#

Aight I think ima start writting a huge doc about jokerless i.e. how to beat it most optimal strat etc. Ive seen a lot of players complain about how difficult the challenge is so I want to help out people as much as I can

young echo
#

I have a quad perkeo run

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and cryptid is pretty early

queen hazel
#

any mime or baron?

young echo
#

not from what I remember

#

but I only went ante 8

queen hazel
#

any DNA?

young echo
#

I87BKXRP is seed, skip for blind for free packs and soul should be in the 2nd one you buy

young echo
lapis ridge
#

does anyone know where to find the max score that people have reached?

young echo
young echo
#

and then bp bs somewhere ante 3-4

queen hazel
#

2 perkeo isnt ideal

young echo
#

I mean 2 perkeo + ankh + bs is pretty good

queen hazel
#

red seal king steel?

young echo
#

I didnt look that hard

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my main goal was getting 1 of each tarot to get backups for the memes

queen hazel
#

how did you get cryptid?

young echo
#

idk

queen hazel
#

i think my game is broken

#

i always have the same 2 tags on the first ante

young echo
#

I saw someone report yesterday

queen hazel
#

ok a bug

young echo
slim meteor
young echo
#

ante 7 there is idol

slim meteor
#

I beat 18, including both of these 2

odd sorrel
slim meteor
#

Yes

odd sorrel
#

okay idk how tough your cruelty run was but from my runs jokerless is harder because its only rng in cruelty theres still skil involved but for jokerless the avg player will just lose if they don't try hard and reset for good seeds

slim meteor
#

Wat

#

Jokerless is as consistent as it can be for the hard challenges

odd sorrel
#

well for example in cruelty you have way more freedom in what you go for since you still have access to jokers even though theres only 3 slots you can still go for semi good jokers and win pretty easily. Jokerless a lot of times if you get the wrong boss you lose if you get bad planet/tarot rng you lose so theres a lot less skill involved in jokerless and way more in cruelty. Because of this the avg player whos doing jokerless for achievement is going to tend to quit way sooner in jokerless then in cruelty. My goal s to make a guide that details what the best strats are for consistent jokerless runs.

slim meteor
#

I’m not sure if I understand you than. Jokerless is only inconsistent for the last boss (whatever makes your cards disabled), other than that it’s much more constant than cruelty*, since you don’t have randomness element in it with the shop and packs (and tags)

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I had like 10 runs on cruelty, but needed 2 for jokerless, it felt much less rerollish

odd sorrel
# slim meteor I’m not sure if I understand you than. Jokerless is only inconsistent for the la...

well in the shop you can still get horrid tarots or planets and if your packs arent the right ones than you will prob end up losing, rn I think the problem is that were seeing this in a .1% player perspectives theres like only 3 people including us that I have seen beat jokerless. The avg player isnt as try hard as and probably hasnt played for as many hours as us so for them it would probably be more difficult. Another reason why I want to do this guide is mostly because I want to see how far we can push jokerless. I want to try and get a high score in the 10m range to which I think is possible if you know what to look for and if your really good at the game

young echo
#

Im srry glass poly, its for the cause 🫡

slim meteor
#

It’s just for me felt that jokerless is just a “cool” challenge, not a hard one

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Kinda similar to the glass one, but less fun

odd sorrel
#

yeah I love the challenge its a great design as a final challenge to the game but I dont think most people are so I'm gonna do this just for fun and really because I want to become the best jokerless player

slim meteor
#

I also wanted to do some “guides”, for decks mostly, but I really need to finish the 2 decks on gold first, otherwise it feels like my opinion wouldn’t matter

young echo
#

the game wont let me skip and all tarots require me to click a card LOL

slim meteor
#

@full siren can I ask you for some assistance? I need 2 seeds - seed with early mailin rebate for abandoned and seed with early castle for checkered if deck matters. Need to confirm test something

full siren
#

Sure, I can search when I get back home

slim meteor
full siren
#

Alr, if you can get Immolate to run you can also create a filter file with something like this inside the function:
#1209513992519946250 message

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If you don’t want to wait for the delay

slim meteor
#

@full siren also sorry, mailin rebate for abandoned

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If it’s not a problem for you, please do that, I can wait. I don’t want to look into seed searching myself

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For my own sanity to keep playing on non* seeds always

full siren
#

No worries, I’ll get the seeds to you tonight

tranquil talon
#

Castle can only select suits in your deck, and Rebate can only select ranks in your deck.
What it does is pick a random card in your deck, and then pull the rank/suit of that card.
So if you have more Diamonds, Castle will be Diamonds more often.
And if you have only 10's, then Rebate will be 10 every time and never change.

young echo
#

For example I had 40 aces of spades in my run and idol was ace of spades more

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maybe I shouldnt set my hand size to 0?

unkempt monolith
#

bro what is this

#

i just see 3 perkeos and a neg brainstorm

full siren
young echo
#

invis like ante 11 though

unkempt monolith
#

ah

#

i did something funny

young echo
#

also I missed bp somewhere

tired matrix
#

ive played like 50 hours and only need chicot to complete my collection and havent found it unseeded yet lol

#

can you get legendary jokers from shop with ghost deck?

#

i only have green stake done on that one maybe thats the problem

full siren
#

Try opening as many arcana and spectral packs as possible

tired matrix
#

theyre in arcana? ive only ever gotten them from spectral

full siren
#

Soul spawns in Arcana, too

raven swan
#

ah man, why do some of these stake runs just end up winning when I start going for a meme build, but when I try to do consistent stuff I just lose 😹

#

gotta love the rng sometimes

young echo
#

lol

tired matrix
#

or the picasso joker whose name i cant remember that gives you a chance when opening a pack?

full siren
unkempt monolith
#

Tbh I've never gotten blackmore or soul fron spectrals, only planets/arcana respectively

#

Wonder if the odds are bloated or something similar

full siren
slim meteor
#

i knew about idol in first demo, but ancient works differently, and i cant know for sure if mail and castle are the same

young echo
#

On chexkered I got castleand only spades and hearts showed up

raven swan
#

and it wouldn't really make sense for it not to be a random card from your deck

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e.g. imagine you get it on abandoned, and it just keeps dropping on face cards

#

I dont really know why ancient is an exception, when castle already works by choosing a card from your deck

tranquil talon
#

I think Idol picking a random card in your deck makes sense.
It'd be unplayable otherwise. Even if it was x20
for a uniformly random suit and rank.

I think Rebate and Castle being uniformly random across ranks and suits, respectively,
could also be fine. It's not that much different from how it currently works.
Even with Rebate being less good on Abandoned, there are already dedicated Face Card Jokers
which are blanks. And I wouldn't necessarily say Castle is less good on Checkered.

Thunk said Ancient is the way that it is as a nerf, so it doesn't degenerate into Idol.
Making all, or almost all, of your cards the same suit is way easier
than making them all the same suit and rank.

Rebate, Castle, and Ancient feel like they should all behave the same,
one way or the other. Rebate and Castle could be changed to match Ancient,
in which case you could increase the payouts if you feel they're underpowered.
OR Ancient could be changed to match Rebate and Castle,
with a decreased payout of maybe x1.25-x1.4 if the concern is about balance.

raven swan
#

makes sense

#

also felt like ancient mechanic was some sort of a nerf

#

why is it not uncommon though... 😹

tranquil talon
#

It's the Wild Card Joker. It says "all Wild Cards give x1.5 mult"

raven swan
#

The only downside is that there's now 3 more bosses that can screw you

tranquil talon
#

Wild Cards are pretty dang risky, yeah

tranquil talon
young echo
#

nice

tranquil talon
#

For anyone who wants to try it,
first shop Arcana -> Soul -> Perkeo,
buy Temperance to copy.
Second shop Buffoon for Blueprint

LE9PWG7D
(copied from above)

young echo
#

I have school soooo

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will try in like 8 hours

tranquil talon
#

Ante 2 has the Gift Card

odd sorrel
#

Has someone calculated the odds of getting x hand in a round?
if so can I have them?

slim meteor
raven swan
magic flame
#

for naneinf scores is it better to copy mime or baron?

raven swan
#

it's a balancing game

#

You want to balance (effects per card) X (retriggers) for the biggest result number

#

effects per card would be baron, retriggers are mime/red seal. Although effects includes steel, it's just +1 to (effects per card)

magic flame
#

okay gotcha

#

would it be worth it to sell a blueprint to balance it?

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if its causing it to be unbalanced

raven swan
#

heh, how would it be unbalanced

magic flame
#

hmm you're right

#

so this would be balanced?

full siren
#

So you’re good

queen hazel
#

why always one more baron copy?

#

surely it shouldn't matter if one or the other is unbalanced?

full siren
#

I ran a Desmos graph and I think Baron ended up being slightly better

#

Maybe because of the +1 retrigger from red seals skewing things

queen hazel
#

oh like balanced mime and baron?

#

i thought you meant balanced x1.5 and triggers mb

queen hazel
manic stream
magic flame
#

thanks guys

manic stream
#

Another naneinf gg

queen hazel
#

seeded?

magic flame
#

yes, LE9PWG7D

tranquil talon
#

Skoottie and I just hit the inf on Ante 12 on stream.
video in a couple days I expect

tired matrix
#

damn! nice

full siren
#

Nice

tranquil talon
# magic flame

For the purposes of balancing "effects" versus "retriggers,"
we should think of the first trigger + red seal as already two "retriggers," even without any Mimes.
And we should think of Steel as already one "effect," even without Baron.

So either equal numbers of Mime and Baron or
up to one more Baron than Mime.

full siren
#

What do you think the lowest ante inf is possible in?

#

I think the goal should be to get one by ante 8, but wondering your thoughts

tranquil talon
#

We could've gotten Ante 8 but didn't get Baron or Mime early enough.
Getting Cryptid in Ante 5, we already had enough Cryptids by Ante 8
(assuming Baron and Mime).

young echo
full siren
#

No bugs

slim meteor
#

what happens if you immo with 5 card hand?

full siren
#

It draws a new hand

tired matrix
#

what about with no cards left

young echo
#

cant use

#

weirdly enough you cant use immolate with 1 card, but you can with 2,3, and 4

#

also math when is the invis + coke seed gonna be searched for

#

Ik youve been pretty busy and you might have forgotten

full siren
#

I can probably do it tonight

young echo
#

noice

#

Im surprised the bug hasnt been patched, ig locals having a break or smthin?

slim meteor
young echo
#

basically invisible joker shenanigans to get the benefits but not have it actually sell

young echo
young echo
#

np

manic stream
#

Doing inf before boss is crazy

#

We need a seed to try and meet all the requirements before final boss

queen hazel
#

what exactly would be needed in the seed?

mighty loom
#

alright just a bit of luck now

manic stream
#

Mostly a good economy to be able to buy the jokers and making sure they get in the shop early enough

#

Gold stake high score incoming?

mighty loom
#

how many cryptids do I need with just Baron and Red Seal Steel Kings?

young echo
#

a lot

#

like a lot a lot

mighty loom
#

alright let's hope I find bp and mime

young echo
#

yep

queen hazel
#

Inf on gold stake would be crazy

young echo
#

or invis joker and use my glitch for 5 barons?

queen hazel
#

Lmao

queen hazel
young echo
#

if 5 barons how many?

queen hazel
#

Just 5 barons?

young echo
#

you cant go over joker slots

queen hazel
#

~33 I think

young echo
#

so not that many

#

but also a lot

queen hazel
mighty loom
#

welp I made an oopsie, I got excited about Ankh copying Perkeo while leaving Baron on field and didn't think that one through

#

let's say I didn't hit

young echo
#

rip

queen hazel
#

Rip indeed

mighty loom
#

what's gold stake highest ante/highscore?

#

alright run would've been ended by the plant anyways

odd sorrel
#

😦 I'm a quarter way in part 2 of 10 in the jokerless guide and the doc is 8 pages long

young echo
#

I found another glitch that I want to test on cerubean bell

#

I hate my life

#

apparently, playing a tarot while playing a hand at the same time crashes the game

odd sorrel
young echo
#

apparently, you can do my ww3 glitch not only on selling jokers...

#

... but on playing cards

#

Basically I can click play before the game should allow me to

#

but because of that it lets me also discard and use consumables while the game figured wtf is happening

#

wait I can hanged man and play a card at the same time 👀

#

looks like I lost all my afternoon plans XD

young echo
odd sorrel
#

can you use spectral cards too?

#

probably right like you play a hex or something maybe aura?

young echo
#

HOLD UP

young echo
odd sorrel
young echo
#

XD

#

I played a hand while lvl up happened and it allowed me to play a hand while a hand was playing

young echo
#

also I have 52/50 cards in deck

#

WTF WTF WTF

#

I can use it, play it, and discard it wtf

tired matrix
#

wow thats actually really broken

#

do you think perhaps its the card you didnt delete?

young echo
#

relogging made one of the cards uranus

tired matrix
#

what does it play as? how many chips?

young echo
#

no the card I didnt delete was 8 of hearts and deck log says I havnt drawn it

#

I clicked uranus and crashed

#

Prob cause it was a pair with the hanged man ig

#

on play they crash

#

raised fist might crash me...

#

WAIT IF I DO THIS WITH CRYPTID...

tired matrix
#

tarot/planet cards probably dont have a value so when you try to play them the game just panics

young echo
#

or death

tired matrix
#

"using" a card is probably different than "playing" one

young echo
#

I used devil on a card and it worked... until it crashed

#

I need to stop crashing omg

#

you guys want the file?

#

I used death on hex (changed to spectral deck for spectrals)

#

wait if I do cryptid does that give me inf cryptids cause I cryptid the cryptid?

tired matrix
#

you need to start recording idk wtf youre doing

young echo
#

My recording sucks

#

and explaining is so hard

tired matrix
#

you redid the glitch on a new game or what?

young echo
#

yeah

full siren
young echo
#

I eternally have 0/8 on my screen now

full siren
#

can you repeat more than twice

#

imagine jumping from ante 1 to ante 8

young echo
#

Uh maybe

full siren
#

don't really have time to test now since I have a school project but lmk your progress

full siren
#

even with being unable to beat nan

young echo
#

I will

full siren
#

tbh ante skip will probably be slower than the RTA record because of menuing, but I wonder what the in-game timer would be lmao

tired matrix
#

i cant get it to work. it wont allow me to do anything when i shouldnt even when i go down to .5

#

are you autoclicking or escape spamming?

young echo
#

esc menuing

#

Basically set speed to 0.5x
esc --> new run --> continue
click a card if you can
if not repeat step 2-3

#

and to have the consumables do this, play a hand, and then rush to consumable. sometimes consumable cant be used

full siren
#

so basically doing anything with the animation playing the same time you continue a run breaks balatro?

unkempt monolith
#

Shadowbulb what the fuck

#

I just see extremely blursed balatro images

young echo
#

Idk anymore

#

I want to test ante skipping and cryptid rn

full siren
#

do you know when you did it to get the double cash out?

young echo
#

yeah

full siren
#

plasma deck with seed "GLITCHED" and going for flush is what I'm trying

#

but also my first time doing the glitch

young echo
tired matrix
#

i cant get anything to happen and my clicks are basically frame perfect 🤷‍♂️

young echo
#

I used planets at that time

full siren
#

oh so you need a consumeable in hand

#

got it

young echo
#

yeah

tired matrix
#

i have death and hex in hand and the option to use either of them goes away the frame that a hand is played

#

and theres a buffer delay when re-entering the game

full siren
#

so this setup is good?

young echo
#

yeah

full siren
#

so I press play hand and then reload save?

young echo
#

do 0.5x speed

#

reload save

tired matrix
#

the speed doesnt matter it greys it out instantly

full siren
#

is this the sweet spot?

young echo
#

click one of those aces as loading in, if it isnt able to be clicked reload save

full siren
#

it failed, let me try again

young echo
full siren
#

do you usually go later or earlier?

#

but after you play a hand or does that part not matter?

young echo
#

not matter

full siren
#

so I keep reloading until it lets me?

#

or if it fails do I have to go again

young echo
#

basically relogging makes so you can click the card before you are suppose to and play a hand before you should

young echo
full siren
#

this is what I have now, nothing abnormal

young echo
#

and then play an ace and use earth before hand plays, if earth cant be used relog and restart

full siren
#

OH

#

that's the trick

#

alr let me get back to this point and try that

young echo
#

You have to play 1 of the non straight flush cards

#

(I so wish I could record)

full siren
#

so basically:

  • reload save until you can play cards
  • play high card and instantly use earth
  • profit?
young echo
#

explaining things sucks

young echo
full siren
#

ok

young echo
#

there should be no delay from clicking cards and loading in

#

cause relogging sometimes fobug

#

reson deletes the timer, and thats the whole bug

full siren
#

so do I have to play the high card instantly too? or do I have itme to wait

#

because I couldn't press use last time

young echo
#

you have until the game normally allows you to play the card

full siren
#

alr, let me try again with that knowledge

young echo
full siren
#

also struggling to find a save that lets me through the high card part

#

oh I found one now

#

but got confused because the play button never grayed out

#

until the timer ended

young echo
#

but then click the straight flush after the planet card uses

full siren
#

ok

young echo
#

and you should be able to play multiple hands at once

full siren
#

I feel like I won't get ante skip since only one hand will win but I'll try

#

I can also get to a score where high card wins

tired matrix
#

when do you hit escape in order to go back into the run though?

full siren
#

I found a good ante skip setup

#

both pairs will win

young echo
#

NO CRYPTID CRASHED THE GAME

#

so you cant make cryptid a playing card

#

probably

#

the reason that sucks cause if cryptid was a playing card you could cryptid itself maybe

tired matrix
#

i mean i have a death card if i could ever get it to work lol

young echo
#

death doesnt work

full siren
#

tried it and I couldn't get 2nd hand to play

#

although I got the glitch

#

should I savescum after it gives me the option?

young echo
#

good to know

#

what should happen is you play your first hand whikle using earth and then after earth animation ends you cfan play another hand iirc

#

unless Im confusing multiple things

full siren
#

that happened, then I selected a hand and spammed play but nothing happened

young echo
#

huh

full siren
#

it just didn't let me through

young echo
#

I think I had a discard last time

full siren
#

same thing happened again

#

let me try one more time

young echo
#

maybe it doesnt work on boss blionds specifically?

full siren
#

fyi I tried savescumming and it didn't save anything

#

from the bug

tired matrix
#

im just going to wait for someone to post a video lol this isnt working for me

young echo
#

oh I see what you mean now

full siren
#

I have a discard let me see if that fixes things

young echo
#

you might need to discard then

full siren
#

do I discard once then play?

#

is that what you did?

#

ok when I discarded the game bugged out lmao

#

it gave me a 0X0 starting hand for some reason when calculating the score, but then nothing else wonky happened

#

wait

#

I GOT ANTE SKIP

#

JUST FROM DISCARDING

#

WHAT THE HELL

young echo
#

I played then discarded

young echo
#

wait that means burglar wont work for this

full siren
#

I mean I played a hand then did the glitch with a played hand then discarded

tired matrix
#

wow i went into a new game entirely and my starting screen is fucked up lol maybe i did something right

young echo
#

can you get video math?

young echo
#

crypttid works on cards you have in the play zone btw

#

problemn is, I lost

full siren
young echo
#

nice

full siren
#

video made

#

I think I can do it consistently too with the right setup

#

just will crop and upload it

tired matrix
#

i have cards selected in the pause menu now lol

young echo
#

LOL

#

what have I done

unkempt monolith
#

shadwobulb omfg

full siren
#

my spamming was so scuffed in the video btw, since I was accidentally selecting and deselecting it a bunch of times

unkempt monolith
#

you cant be like this

young echo
#

it crashed

#

turning a consumable into a card with death crashes also

tired matrix
#

damn i cant buy stuff from the shop because the hand menu is blocking it haha

young echo
#

lol

#

that ha[[ened to mne

#

using a consumable fixes it

tired matrix
#

also cant skip blinds

young echo
#

the irony

#

oh fudge I broke my game

#

opening balatro instant crashes

#

thank god it fixed

tired matrix
#

planet x of hearts!

young echo
#

thats what happens if you use death, the previous cards texture goes over the other texture

tired matrix
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i cant seem to be able to put hanged man in my deck

young echo
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have you gotten other cards to?

tired matrix
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hermit crashed my game

unkempt monolith
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what if you death a planet into a tarot

tired matrix
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or something i did crashed it, idk

full siren
unkempt monolith
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crash id assume?

young echo
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pog

young echo