#[LE9PWG7D - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

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raven swan
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second run of the day it is

tranquil talon
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LOL

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I'm probably not going to record the next one

raven swan
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I think I've gathered enough information from this one 🫔 but I'll be doing the fun stuff first anyways

full siren
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High Score Discussion and the Demo High Score WR Seed

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Renamed thread to relate to current discussion

odd sorrel
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šŸ‘

full siren
raven swan
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yep

full siren
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LMAO

raven swan
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how do you think he gets 4 hours recording 4 hours after the game release LOL

full siren
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The e84s come naturally to the deck doctor...

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and then I'm going to play my first (unseeded) run of the game and cavendish is going to break first try

raven swan
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thats an achievement though

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one in a thousand!

tired matrix
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did you do this on a profile with all unlocks?

tranquil talon
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All unlocks, to get all the content right away, yeah

full siren
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Speedrun strats

tranquil talon
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Did the same thing for the demo

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That was my only demo run

full siren
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I haven’t had time to play the game yet but when I bought it first thing I did was unlock all and look at collection lol

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Anyway we’ll see if anyone can beat your score before the seed searcher comes around

tranquil talon
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There's a lot of fun stuff to check out and theory craft about

raven swan
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I didn't use unlock all, trying different stuff out

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discovering stuff is fun, and the high scores aren't running away from me anyways šŸ‘€

tranquil talon
tranquil talon
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Hm. Impossible.

raven swan
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will have to use unlock all once it gets to that one

tranquil talon
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Skootie was theorycrafting, maybe don't unlock some Rares on purpose when going for high scores

full siren
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Final Challenge (||Jokerless||):

full siren
tranquil talon
raven swan
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I was also thinking that just a while back

tired matrix
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most games dont use unlock manip in speed runs unless you mean a run going from 0 to 100% all

full siren
full siren
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I needed an unlocks system for ante 1 restrictions already

raven swan
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considering stuff like cartomancer/astronomer need you to buy 50 planets/unlock all tarot, community will have a save file with perfect conditions for high score runs, which you would have to change every run. pain in the ass but oh well

full siren
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and it also works well for rerolls

full siren
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you only want the "good" tier 2 vouchers

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I wonder if people will use challenges to maximize score

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||Five-Card Draw|| might be a good challenge because you can use 7 Joker Slots

raven swan
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does ||five card draw|| auto unlock tier 2 paint voucher 😹

raven swan
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the astronomer is pretty easy to avoid, by not discovering 5oak/flush house

full siren
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actually we should probably plan out which ones we want locked/unlocked

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I'm going to pull from a locked and unlocked profile real quick

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and then list requirements after

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Jokers:
Golden Ticket - Play a hand of 5 Gold cards
Mr. Bones - Lose 5 runs
Acrobat - Play 200 hands
Sock and Buskin - Play 300 face cards
Swashbuckler - Sell 20 Joker cards
Troubadour - One-shot 5 consecutive rounds
Certificate - Have a Gold Gold Seal card
Smeared Joker - Have 3 Wild Cards
Throwback - Continue a run from main menu
Hanging Chad - Beat a Boss with High Card
Rough Gem - Have 30 Diamonds
Bloodstone - Have 30 Hearts
Arrowhead - Have 30 Spades
Onyx Agate - Have 30 Clubs
Glass Joker - Have 5 Glass Cards
Showman - Ante 4
Flower Pot - Ante 8
Blueprint - Win a run
Wee Joker - Win a run in <18 rounds
Merry Andy - Win a run in <12 rounds
Oops! All 6s - Score 10K chips in a hand
The Idol - Score 1M chips in a hand
Seeing Double - Play a hand with four 7 of Clubs
Matador - One-shot a boss without discarding
Hit the Road - Discard 5 Jacks simultaneously
The Duo - Win without Pair
The Trio - Win without 3oak
The Family - Win without 4oak
The Order - Win without Straight
The Tribe - Win without Flush
Stuntman - Score 100M chips in a hand
Invisible Joker - Win with a max of 4 Jokers in a run
Brainstorm - Discard a Royal Flush
Satellite - Have >$400
Shoot the Moon - Play every Heart in a round
Driver's License - Enhance 16 cards
Cartomancer - Discover every Tarot
Astronomer - Discover every Planet
Burnt Joker - Sell 50 cards
Bootstraps - Have 2 Polychrome Jokers
Legendary Jokers - Use The Soul

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Vouchers:
Overstock Plus - Spend $2500 all-time
Liquidation - Redeem 10 vouchers in one run
Glow Up - Have 5 editioned jokers
Reroll Glut - Reroll 100 times all-time
Omen Globe - Use 25 tarots from packs all-time
Observatory - Use 25 planets from packs all-time
Nacho Tong - Play 2500 cards all-time
Recyclomancy - Discard 2500 cards all-time
Tarot Tycoon - Buy 50 tarots from shops all-time
Planet Tycoon - Buy 50 planets from shops all-time
Money Tree - Maxout interest for 10 rounds straight
Antimatter - Redeem Blank 10 times
Illusion - Buy 20 playing cards from shop all-time
Petroglyph - Reach Ante 12
Retcon - Discover 25 Blinds
Palette - Reduce Hand Size to 5

full siren
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Wait when I was doing all the math earlier I forgot about Plasma šŸ’€

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you basically only need e154 mult then to go infinite

manic stream
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well with my own testing now that modding is allowed, i can tell yall with plasma deck and a simple flush 5 rpg and 3 idol and 2 retriggers this is the base score

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now i know this doesnt count since i modded this but go after legit high scores

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im invested in the race

full siren
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I think at this point it’s ā€œhow many negatives can you get?ā€

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And with endless vs 8 antes too

manic stream
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Imo it has to be seperated

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Since you can get endless (pun intended) amounts of negatives

odd sorrel
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Yeah we should probably come up with rules or something otherwise its going to go on forever

full siren
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The main splits would be Any/Black Stake and Normal/Endless

odd sorrel
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Ive been trying to beat prange stake for some time now and damn its hard

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Has anyone beaten gold yet?

full siren
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I only beat white lol

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Because I was playing seeded and modding and then a bit of speedrunning

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I beat my first unseeded run like an hour ago

odd sorrel
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I wanna be one of the first onea to beat gold

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Rn I'm using red deck though so its really tough

tranquil talon
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sry

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So, uhhhhh, Bull on Plasma autowins, even on Gold

manic stream
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ofcourse its drs

tranquil talon
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You can't be the literal first, but you can be among the first for sure

odd sorrel
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Im playing on red deck 😈

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Ima be the first person to beat gold on red deck

full siren
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Serpent might be really busted for endless high score with full deck manipulation

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Since you can GAIN hand size by only playing/discarding high cards

odd sorrel
full siren
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That is probably better

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More consistent + more potent

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You could get literal HUNDREDS of cards

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While having lots of retriggering jokers

odd sorrel
full siren
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Ok that single-handedly makes me thing going infinite is possible again

odd sorrel
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I honestly think that the best strat would be mime with perkeo and all the copy cards copy mime because we would have so much duped card in our hand

full siren
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Imagine high card with that lol

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Wait let me think

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If we have 200 cards from perkeo

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That gives 400 steel cards

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Let’s say they all retrigger

odd sorrel
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then mime is way better

full siren
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That’s 2.25^400

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Or basically 2.25^800 WITHOUT mime

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Already almost infinite

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Wait it’s so doable

odd sorrel
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fr getting a seed like that should be pretty easy

tranquil talon
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Perkeo Cryptids LOL

full siren
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You survive off of RPG Strats for 20 antes and then stack up 200 cryptids

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Burglar for more

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And then RPS your way to infinity

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You could probably break e1000

odd sorrel
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lol rip the RPG meta now its RPS time

full siren
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If the game didn’t stop you

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Does poly even matter? Does that trigger with steel/mime? Iirc no

odd sorrel
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no it doesnt

manic stream
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rps looks cooler so it does matter

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obviously

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thats how it works

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source: trust me bro

odd sorrel
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Nah but think about it it would be an RPS atom accelerator or something like that game would prob crash

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but in our books thats a win

full siren
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With cheats I did something really dumb and it didn’t crash

odd sorrel
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aint no way

queen hazel
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i might have a seed to try the perkeo thing

full siren
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This was demo but I went infinite with cheats by giving myself 100 hacks and 100 RPS cards and a hand of RPG cards

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Also don’t tell thunk about this because then all of a sudden Perkeo won’t be able to copy spectrals anymore

odd sorrel
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fr

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we keep this hidden and then we nuke the leaderboards it will be a quick operation

manic stream
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Incoming perkeo nerf

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Just like invis nerf

tranquil talon
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Perkeo probably won't get a nerf
because stacking Cryptids only allows for a one-off high score.
The previous concerns about stacking Negatives was about endless survivability

odd sorrel
tranquil talon
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Thunk loves wacky shit like that

odd sorrel
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omd if we do get like 200 cryptids how is that gonna be in our consumables and how long is it gonna take to use them

queen hazel
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how do you get a spectral card into hand?

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to dupe with perkeo

odd sorrel
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you can use sƩance or ghost deck there may be a joker that allows it to but idk

queen hazel
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ok thanks

manic stream
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Isn't there that joker also that if you destroy a card in your first hand you get a spectral?

queen hazel
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sixth sense

odd sorrel
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yeah that one too

queen hazel
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it would be pretty difficult to get cryptid along with everything else

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the conditions for the spectral jokers are so awkward

full siren
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You only really need to get it once though

queen hazel
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that's true

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but its from a random pool of the spectral cards

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so it could take many lucky hands to find cryptid

odd sorrel
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not really I mean think about it if we have a bunch of copy jokers then we could cycle through spec cards pretty fast kinda like Arkana's set seed wr where he bought sƩance at the end

queen hazel
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i got it!

odd sorrel
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nice

queen hazel
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i have 2 brainstorm

odd sorrel
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holy shit

queen hazel
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cryptid in hand

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will have blueprint 3rd brainstorm and perkeo

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i know the seed

odd sorrel
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damn thats crazy

queen hazel
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ill keep you updated

odd sorrel
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$271 šŸ¤‘

full siren
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Holy guacamole

queen hazel
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just got blueprint

full siren
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Going infinite without searcher would be wild

queen hazel
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searcher?

odd sorrel
queen hazel
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ahh

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update

odd sorrel
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damn this that seed could actualy go crazy

queen hazel
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only thing is

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my deck is really cluttered

odd sorrel
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lol 95 cards

queen hazel
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and i want to use perkeo to clear it

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but i need to dupe cryptid

odd sorrel
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how many RPS?

full siren
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All you need is the one card at the right time

queen hazel
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but ill want as many as possible?

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rps?

odd sorrel
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RPS mean Red seal polychrome steel card but I dont think you have poly

queen hazel
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no poly

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lots of red steel kings

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for holding in hand ofc

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so poly isnt necessary

odd sorrel
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thing is that even if you miss out on a few steel cards tif you dupe then you would just missout on like 1000000x or so its no tthat bad

queen hazel
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true

full siren
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Poly isn’t needed with steel

odd sorrel
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but it looks cool šŸ™ƒ

manic stream
odd sorrel
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remember when your maxed out in any rpg or roguelike the next step is to look cool

manic stream
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Frl

queen hazel
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im at 25 cryiptid now

full siren
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Let me calculate what you need to go infinite

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Every single one is basically X5

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220 will be enough guaranteed

queen hazel
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what determines going infinite

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doesnt the ante scale exponentially?

full siren
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Max number Lua supports is 2^1023-1

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Then it’ll give you a value of infinity

queen hazel
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so getting an infinite score

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got it

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not sure i can make it to 220

full siren
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That was an overestimate, so something slightly less will probably do it

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If you get burglar that will be huge

queen hazel
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what would i sell?

full siren
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Oh yeah 220 is without mime

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With mime probably 100 would do it

queen hazel
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copied mime?

full siren
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Yeah I’m implying copied

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Every steel would get triggered 6 times instead of 2

queen hazel
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baron factored in?

full siren
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No

queen hazel
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copied twice

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with mime too

full siren
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That’ll definitely break infinity

queen hazel
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i dont think ill need 100

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i have 45

full siren
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Does baron work with held in hand?

queen hazel
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yes

full siren
full siren
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This is like Hand Duplication glitch but it’s a feature (for those who remember that from the demo)

queen hazel
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i'm gonna go for it

full siren
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I wonder if highest ante will become more prestigious with Perkeo strats

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Since going infinite will basically kill the category on day 2… LOL

queen hazel
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this could take awhile

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should i record?

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my screen?

full siren
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Please do

manic stream
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If you can sure, idk why but my obs doesn't like me trying to record

queen hazel
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the whole round

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or just scoring

manic stream
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Record it all

lost granite
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this seems promising

full siren
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There’s some funny glitches when you go infinite, I wonder how it’ll look like in 1.0

queen hazel
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its scoring rn

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this will take a minute

lost granite
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im excited to see this

queen hazel
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halfway

full siren
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I love how in a matter of hours we went from ā€œoh I wonder if increasing hand size will be powerfulā€ to ā€œliterally breaking infinity as we speakā€

queen hazel
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my best on this seed was e68

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i thought it was almost impossible to go higher

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its done

full siren
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POG

queen hazel
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i cant upload here

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too big

full siren
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Can you take a screenshot of the score

lost granite
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screenshot?

manic stream
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Upload there and send the link it gives you

full siren
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Or just to YouTube…

queen hazel
lost granite
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lmaoooooooooo

manic stream
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Youtube compression though

full siren
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NANEINF

queen hazel
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we did it

lost granite
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thats hilarious holy shit

manic stream
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NaNeINF strikes again

queen hazel
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do i get bragging rights?

manic stream
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183 deck card though holy

full siren
lost granite
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GG

queen hazel
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do you guys want the seed?

lost granite
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sure, no need to protect it since it cant be beaten technically lmao

unkempt monolith
full siren
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Sure

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I’ll update the post to include it

queen hazel
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61TP3FV9

full siren
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Next step is to maximize without endless mode - or for most antes

queen hazel
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heres the file

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1.1gb sorry...

young echo
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yoooooo

manic stream
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I'm waiting for calculator so we can find out how many idols and re triggers we need for inf

manic stream
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Above 500mb?

queen hazel
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1.1g

manic stream
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Well there might be a way but I won't be able to do it now

full siren
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[61TP3FV9 - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

manic stream
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I know a way

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Might be able to send it here as an embed like when I wake up

high timber
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whattttttttt

queen hazel
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see you guys in the morning

odd sorrel
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Ayo he did it

queen hazel
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good work

full siren
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Good job everyone

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It didn’t even take 36 hours for the game to be completely broken

high timber
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bro no one is saying anything in game discussion

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you gotta post the screenshot

queen hazel
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ill do that rq

lost granite
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damn i thought it was gonna take at least 3-4 days, this is nuts

odd sorrel
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I mean we achieved our goal what do we do now?

high timber
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play the game normally?

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anticipating roaring laughter

young echo
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I contributed, trust

true viper
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we were here guys

unkempt monolith
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just looking at the image, redsealsteel kings?

true viper
lost granite
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ive been trying to find out what the fastest path for a 100% collection speedrun would be, but its been a headache so i just play for fun for the time being

full siren
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  • Highest ante
  • Going infinite in ante 8 (possible with this strategy, I’m 100% confident)
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The latter could be done in a few days if we get a seed search going

lost granite
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if you can naneinf ante 8 on this that would be fucking nuts

odd sorrel
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aight thats the new goal ante 8 inf high-score

full siren
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You’d need Perkeo, BP and BS Ante 1 to stack Cryptid

lost granite
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thats what im thinking, idk how youd have enough time to do it

full siren
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Then you can already get like 60 Cryptids, then it’s doable

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Just with a god seed

lost granite
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thats the golden seed right there lmao

odd sorrel
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we also gotta make sure we win lol I think that a lot of seeds are good but lose too early

full siren
lost granite
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i mean youd have space to sustain an early game i think and make it through

lost granite
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lmao true

full siren
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Oh yeah also going infinite unseeded could be a goal

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I think it’s doable

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Imagine a going infinite speedrun balatrojoker

odd sorrel
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You know the funny thing I have been grinding on orange stake red deck for so long I dont even have challenge mode unlocked

lost granite
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yeah ive just been trying to make a deck of a single card on abandoned deck for fun, havent tried the challenge yet

true viper
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just watched the clip of the infinite score, thats crazy

manic stream
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Maybe for infinite seeded we can kinda do what's been done here with sock & buskin and baron instead of seltzer and triboulet @mathisfun

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Time to fire another desmos graph

full siren
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My thought was just do what the endless run did in 8 antes

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I think inf unseeded will happen

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Considering these seeds were without searcher and very quick to be rolled by a skilled player

manic stream
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I wonder how many steels would be needed if we can get like 3 and 3 of each

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Kinda like idol and triboulet

full siren
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With double the steel cards

manic stream
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Wait I mean re trigger not idol

odd sorrel
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we should also try going inf on hardest dif

full siren
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I wonder how many challenges we can go infinite in

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Everything except Jokerless should be possible

odd sorrel
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lol it went from can we get inf to how many ways we can get inf

full siren
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(Although we do need a mod for seeded challenge runs)

tranquil talon
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hilarious

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šŸŽ‰

raven swan
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ggs

tranquil talon
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For long term survivability, Observatory + Perkeo (with copies) could be the move

full siren
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That could get you to a permanent X5 per round

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Or with plasma, X25

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I feel like you could break e200 consistently like that

odd sorrel
tranquil talon
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numba 1, numba 1

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how was it?

odd sorrel
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it was real tough but for that last run I got really good rng

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it was mostly orange stake though that one took me a long time

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I also got sƩance at the end so now that has a gold sticker for completion

tranquil talon
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Gold Sticker Seance without using the joker slot for scoring
gotta be tough. Congrats!

plain lodge
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i'll take number 2 i guess

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last hand before the win, sold a burglar before the boss, so i kept 7 playable hands

young echo
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dangg

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that extra discard is important

young echo
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I wonder how fast that would be

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actually thats probably slow as heck

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like a million per day

full siren
manic stream
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Note that what I said are only examples I think there are a few more re triggers

young echo
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I wish there was a 5 perkeo seed

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  • obervatory
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might outscale the blinds and be inf technically

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idk

manic stream
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You can copy perkeo 5x with showman

young echo
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and invis

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and ankhs

manic stream
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Yeah but showman is easiest imo

young echo
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wait imagine like -69 hand size with ouija after ouija

manic stream
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You'll lose after the 4th one cuz you won't have any hand size

full siren
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I think it doesn't go below 0

young echo
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I mean true

full siren
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I tried with debug mode

manic stream
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Maybe with bean you can survive

young echo
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D:

full siren
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except maybe bean can override that

manic stream
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And alot of hand size enhancements

young echo
manic stream
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Wdym do it in a pack

young echo
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you cant die if you use ouija in a pack

manic stream
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You'll die when you start the round it doesn't matter

young echo
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ik that

full siren
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me copying immolate with a 1 hand size high card run for ultimate money strats

manic stream
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You're just delaying the inevitable

young echo
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if only we could ww vouchers

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that would be the most broken bug ever

high timber
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what ante are you on?

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no

young echo
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XD

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shop slots? yeah I have 99999 of those

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buy everything 100x fold

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joker slots?

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infinite magnet so draw full deck?

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actually thats a good question, does magnet override hand size

high timber
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...magnet?

young echo
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does that not exist?

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curse you wiki

high timber
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what does it do

full siren
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palette?

young echo
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gives top 3 most played cards

high timber
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yeah doesn't exist anymore

young echo
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(just saying it would have been cool)

full siren
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Mod it in

young echo
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true

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but I need sleep

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my eyeballs boutta burn out

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gn

high timber
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gn

hushed jasper
lost granite
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is there not a dedicated records/first thread? if not there should be instead of posting it everywhere, have a hard time tracking it all, gotta know whats left to still go for lmao

full siren
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There was a spreadsheet with records for the demo so that should be ready to go for the full game in a few days

daring magnet
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e79 has been reported

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is this WR?

manic stream
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I think this is the highest e score we've seen besides inf

daring magnet
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ah, I see

tranquil talon
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Full commentary on the 6 hour run if you want to try to learn something

queen hazel
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going for highest ante now if anyone is interested

queen hazel
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maybe highest seeded ante?

manic stream
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Highest e score god damn

queen hazel
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The seed is just insane

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i have another idea to go further

queen hazel
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doesn't work

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going for idol

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but psychic ruins the run

manic stream
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Triboulet and idol basically do the same thing for your run

queen hazel
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triboulet would be perfect

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hmmm

manic stream
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I'm working on trying to figure out the minimum jokers I need for inf without steel

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That's gonna be fun

queen hazel
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also highest non inf score

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same seed same build ofc

manic stream
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Cuz I see steel as a cheese

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I can get an infinite amount of them it's a boring way

queen hazel
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fair enough

manic stream
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E301 is crazy lmao

raven swan
daring magnet
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wait. so the WR is actually hitting MAXFLOAT or whatever Balatro uses when calculating chips?

raven swan
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the number limit is 2^1024-1 in lua

lost granite
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301 is super close to the limit as well. pretty sure limit is 308 power

manic stream
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1.8e308 I think

lost granite
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yeah, likely 301 is about as close as people are gonna get to max for a bit without hitting it, but who knows with how much the game is being pushed rn, didnt think it would be broken this early either

tranquil talon
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Thunk said it was possible and said Baron would be part of what makes it possible

civic swift
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yo guys

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what is current WR?

full siren
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Infinity

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If the game didn’t cap at e308, it would be in the e500 range

civic swift
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oh right

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i though my e11 was pretty good KEKW

raven swan
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🫔

manic stream
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Can we mod past e308 or is that not possible?

full siren
#

Would be tough but possible

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You’d have to rewrite all the scoring logic to use a large number library

lost granite
#

"large number" is an understatement when max score is already ~(estimated atoms in universe)^4

odd sorrel
#

Man I like this group

queen hazel
#

what is the next goal?

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are we waiting for a proper seed searcher?

manic stream
#

Yeah we're just waiting on that

queen hazel
#

I assume math is making it

high timber
queen hazel
#

lmao not even close

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Tbf they're not on plasma deck

young echo
#

I beat gold stake

odd sorrel
young echo
#

ghosat

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seemed the most fun

odd sorrel
#

nice rn I'm trying to clear gold stake on paint

young echo
#

nice

odd sorrel
#

if I can do it I don't think anybody else has the first paint deck gold completion soo

young echo
#

Id race but I have 150 queswtions of math homework to do

high timber
#

sheesh

young echo
#

they are relatively easy questions

odd sorrel
#

what are they about?

young echo
#

Factoring trinomials, 4 terms, trinomials when a >1

odd sorrel
#

oh seems easy

young echo
#

it is

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its just lots and lots of work

#

I got wee joker!
pog!

tired matrix
#

is there a video of the inf score?

full siren
#

I added the link to it to the top of the post

vocal hull
#

has anyone else done gold stake on yellow yet?

odd sorrel
vocal hull
#

cool

young echo
#

decided to try for gold stake paint deck anyways

#

so far only red done šŸ’€

odd sorrel
young echo
#

also invis wasnt ready 😭

young echo
#

green stake done

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got burnt joker brainstorm and eternal baron next run so pretty much won ig

odd sorrel
#

man stop speed running pls

young echo
#

lol

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plz god give me mime

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nvm dna will work

odd sorrel
#

what is your luck

young echo
odd sorrel
#

man I get a run like that like once in a blue moon

young echo
#

Same

full siren
#

Serpent moment

odd sorrel
#

like these are the type of runs that I get:

young echo
#

black stake done

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casual 180 million

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I dont think I was bluffing either lol

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anyways I gtg, see you later

odd sorrel
#

cya

slim meteor
#

iv seen the people hit 308 already, what are the other goals? highest ante? when does the endless hit 308?

odd sorrel
#

wdym by 308?

slim meteor
#

inf

odd sorrel
#

because we already reached naneinf

young echo
#

I wish there was a way to get inf mr bones

slim meteor
odd sorrel
#

oh you mean like when the blind reaches inf or what?

slim meteor
#

i saw it was with cryptid cheese, is there similar but without?

slim meteor
#

maybe? so people didnt get it yet?

young echo
#

not inf antes

full siren
young echo
#

that should be next goal

full siren
#

I think going inf is possible without endless

full siren
#

mods

slim meteor
#

bruh, im asking for actual scores

full siren
#

oh I thought you meant strategies LMAO

young echo
#

lol

full siren
#

if you can get 15 good negatives then maybe you can do that in endless

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but it would be hard

slim meteor
#

also, does perkeo but without cryptid even counts as cheese?

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*is there something im not aware of

full siren
#

is observatory+perkeo cheese?

#

it's similar but not as effective

#

and can be combined with retrigger strats

young echo
#

observatory + perkeo is more controllable

#

might let us get inf antes

slim meteor
#

isnt observ + perkeo only 3.4x per ante?

full siren
#

blueprint

young echo
#
  • bs + bp
slim meteor
#

oh, its compatible

young echo
#

and multi perkeo

slim meteor
#

why?

full siren
#

you can scale that along with RPG

young echo
#

I mean the woeding is compatible, so its compatible

slim meteor
#

didnt the dev change all of the "start/end of round" effects to not be compatible

young echo
#

idk the wording of the joker

slim meteor
young echo
#

maybe cause says end of shop

slim meteor
#

the entire reason for the shit that procs "for free"

young echo
#

idk man

slim meteor
#

well, i guess im not allowed to use perkeo at all then

young echo
#

does ankh copy negative jokers?

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or does it strip negative off

slim meteor
#

no, but idk how does it copy

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the wording is unclear, i saw it, but it didnt proc on negative. i dont even know if it strips off negative from original, or jsut creates non negative copy

young echo
#

cause eternal negative perkeo + ankh would be $$$$$

slim meteor
young echo
#

with enough of them we can get lots and lots of plutos

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  • observatory
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and outscale

#

but still control not over integer limit

slim meteor
#

yeah, but without negative bp/bs, its still only 1.5^5, which is like... x8?

young echo
#

and then use mr bones for high high numbers

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Idk man

slim meteor
#

i guess its 512 per ante, but thats like ante 16 scaling

young echo
#

512^20

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would be a lot

#

but your probably right on it not being enough

slim meteor
#

sorry, where is 20 coming from?

young echo
#

mb, meant 30 cause thats where the record died

slim meteor
#

oh, you mean like getting it from the start, i see

young echo
#

yeah

slim meteor
#

also, do we know what are the 2 "secret" stakes that were found in the files

young echo
#

idk

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I have all 8 stakes

slim meteor
#

did someone get to 100% "legit"

young echo
#

on ghost deck

slim meteor
#

ok, that was my question

full siren
#

they might be unused

slim meteor
#

oh wait, only on ghost deck

young echo
#

or future dlc

slim meteor
#

i thought maybe it unlocks after you 100%

young echo
#

Im not that goated

slim meteor
#

idk, checkered and erratic/abandoned seems to be the easiest ones, i got gold on checkered very easy, other 2 mentioned should also be easy. but things like black/green seem so hard to me

young echo
#

Im doing painted

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then prob checkered

slim meteor
#

btw, does going inf still softlocks the profile? previously it was doing so cos nan in highscores was crashing the game

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does it now resets to 0, or sets it to 1.8e308 or something?

young echo
#

no clue

manic stream
#

Hypothetically with negative showman and idols and hacks it could be done

queen hazel
#

new highest seeded ante

manic stream
#

nice

queen hazel
#

I think I can improve upon it a little more

manic stream
#

i wanna try for highest best hand non inf

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as close to the e308 as possible

full siren
#

Is Ante 39 infinite already? The antes that are infinite would crash the game when you play a hand

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So that or 40 would be the final reachable ante

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Also 800 card deck LOL

queen hazel
#

I think 40 would be infinite

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I'm going to try and get there later

queen hazel
manic stream
#

probably some modded one but just to try

full siren
#

I feel like you could get an e308 in game but that would require a lot of math to line up 🤣

queen hazel
#

Imma try that too

raven swan
#

Also insane deck size

tranquil talon
#

Tall deck on the right side is hilarious

raven swan
#

Thunk did not account for that one lol

queen hazel
raven swan
#

Makes sense

queen hazel
#

Speeds up the process

raven swan
#

Yea, figured

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Is it possible to reroll ante boss until serpent

queen hazel
#

What does serpent do?

raven swan
#

Allows you to draw more cards than your hand size

queen hazel
#

Draw 3 one

raven swan
#

Only draw 3 cards after discard/hand

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Then you can skip big / small blinds

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If you aren't surviving them without extra cards

queen hazel
#

I forgot about skipping blinds...

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Yeah good idea

raven swan
#

Skipping blinds also skips the shop, but I think at that point you just want to reroll until serpent for more cards in hand

#

I wonder, is there some known logic/limits behind rerolling boss blinds? Like, if you had boss A previous ante, is it possible to reroll current ante boss until you get the boss A again.

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I don't think I ever had repeating boss blinds appearing naturally on the seed so I'm not sure if rerolls have some sort of restriction that previous ante boss(or bosses) can't be rolled or less likely to be rolled

tranquil talon
raven swan
#

I think it does not really matter that much, personally

tranquil talon
#

yeah, maybe keep it in because it's hilarious

raven swan
#

Only niche runs like this can ever reach this deck size

tranquil talon
#

Like huge hand size from Juggler Tag as well

queen hazel
#

Off screen deck would be pretty funny

tranquil talon
#

to the actual moon

queen hazel
#

Scrap biggest hand

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Who can get the biggest deck

raven swan
#

Is Blank the fallback voucher when you have all of them btw? šŸ¤”

#

since you reached ante 38 I assume you can just get all vouchers by that point without skips

manic stream
#

it is

raven swan
#

ah, sad, but makes sense

queen hazel
#

i had all but heiroglyph and its upgrade

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and blank isn't a fallback voucher

raven swan
#

why not

queen hazel
#

do you want to know?

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i don't want to spoil anything

raven swan
#

it's not really spoiling anything lol

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fallback voucher means when you have all vouchers, the game does not have anything to generate

#

so it falls back to some fixed value

#

to not break things

queen hazel
#

ohh

#

i misunderstood

#

idk

raven swan
#

I assume it's blank because it does nothing

queen hazel
#

ill find out

tranquil talon
#

People have tested this on anaglyph already. Blank is the "breakfast"

manic stream
#

i know from what i tested while modded is i spawned like 30 something double tags on a voucher tag and after i was done with all the normal vouchers i got the blank voucher multiple times

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so i think it is a fallback voucher

full siren
#

I can just pull up the list

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Tarots - Fool
Planets - Pluto
Spectrals - Incantation
Jokers - Joker
Vouchers - Blank
Tags - Handy

queen hazel
#

btw in case you didn't know already ante 39 is inf

manic stream
#

modded run so it doesnt count but yeah

#

i also bought 2 -1 ante voucher but idk how these work honestly

full siren
#

So 39 is the highest possible ante

manic stream
#

do they just reduce the number and i get another round to play?

#

i can see what that would be nice

queen hazel
#

my game doesn't crash when i score inf against ante 39, but it is impossible to win

raven swan
#

what happens if you have mr bones

manic stream
#

oh wait ill test that

#

thats a great idea

raven swan
#

something wonky with that 25% of inf

queen hazel
#

i suspect nothing

manic stream
#

only one way to find out

raven swan
#

I think so too

#

because inf *0.25 is still inf

#

but for funny

queen hazel
#

we gotta know

manic stream
#

mr bones doesnt save you

#

its a rip

queen hazel
#

rip

#

i think i'm finally finished with this seed

#

now to play normally ig

daring magnet
manic stream
#

It's cursed when you play balatro with it

#

It's the most used font

paper nebula
#

what is the strat for this seed?

full siren
#

Blueprint/Brainstorm + Perkeo + Baron + Cryptid + red seal steel + Plasma Deck

paper nebula
#

i mean that didnt really answer my question but i appreciate it

manic stream
#

get these jokers and copy cryptid

#

thats all there is to it really

paper nebula
#

thanks ill try it

queen hazel
#

i did this on a full unlock profile btw

young echo
#

Im home

#

whqt about needle?

#

does that allow for ante 40 being max ante?

full siren
#

If the base score is nan then it shouldn’t make a difference

young echo
#

idk

full siren
young echo
#

so what does the game actual register the number of naneinf

full siren
#

inf

young echo
#

dang

#

so inf does not = infinity?

#

put it as a bug report balatrojoker

full siren
#

all of the behavior at infinity could be a bug report xdd

#

I like naneinf though

young echo
#

lol

#

fair

#

time to continue painted deck black stake run I got yesterday

#

BRO THERE IS AN INVIS JOKER THE NEXT SHOP AFTER WINNING XD

odd sorrel
#

Man I canonly play in abt 2 hours and I'm stuck on orange stake

young echo
#

dang

odd sorrel
#

I do think that the diff between orange and gold isnt that much for painted but at purple omg does it become tough

young echo
#

I wasnt paying attention

#

boss is plant

odd sorrel
#

Youch

young echo
#

rip run unless I get lucky

odd sorrel
#

I lost lile 3 runs on orange to heart

young echo
#

my only glass card is a queen also

#

so Im just dead dead

#

blue stake time I guess

odd sorrel
#

The real difficulty about paint is that the first few stakes are easy because there like no limmitations but the later ones are extremly difficult because of scaling and you only have 4 jokers

young echo
#

is lucky cat retroactive?

odd sorrel
#

Idk I got it once in a run and lost

young echo
#

I got it once and didnt buy it

#

15 handsize go brrr

odd sorrel
#

OIforget whats the blue stake challenge again?

young echo
#

-1 discard

odd sorrel
#

Is it -1 discard

#

Ok yeah

young echo
#

so starting to get to the harder ones

#

I mean I have ante 3 so Im chillin

odd sorrel
#

How many unlocks do you have?

young echo
#

blue stake done

#

this is my main profile, 4 winstreak is pretty pog lol

#

wrong one woops

queen hazel
#

nice

young echo
#

oh god purple stake time

queen hazel
#

gl lol

young echo
#

rip winstreak

odd sorrel
#

yeah purp is annoying

young echo
#

got canio and lost the next round

#

If I got hanged man bro

#

wouldve been a win

young echo
#

got pareidolia but not a single face card synergy

queen hazel
#

different purple run?

young echo
#

yep

#

canio laughing in my face

queen hazel
#

literally

#

third times the charm?

young echo
#

I got rocket and egg

#

so we may be cookin

#

and its only ante 1 end

queen hazel
#

strong start

young echo
#

wasnt paying attention to boss fudge

#

4th times the charm balatrojoker

#

hold up, ouija 4s. if walkie talkie we might have a run

#

since when did disabled cards not count for flower pot

#

5th times the charm guys trust

queen hazel
#

Trust trust

#

100% faith

young echo
#

burnt joker shop one

#

surely

odd sorrel
#

lol your on your 5th try 🄲

young echo
#

only 5th

odd sorrel
#

the grind is eternal

young echo
#

burnt + astronaut joker

#

ante 2

#

surely

odd sorrel
#

😦 cant play a pair

full siren
#

This seed might be broken now - soul and standard pack RNG changed so there probably isn’t perkeo anymore

young echo
#

6th times the charm guys

#

local still didnt patch my bug

full siren
#

You playing on k?

young echo
#

patchnotes dont say its patched

#

tested it myself on K and yep, not patched

full siren
#

[1.0.0j - 61TP3FV9 - naneinf score] High Score Discussion and the High Score WR Seed

odd sorrel
young echo
#

901735879th times the charm

odd sorrel
#

lol I ve been grinding so much I got my 6th ante 1 small blind wr

young echo
#

just a couple more hours

#

it loses BARELY

#

1 more club and wouldve won

odd sorrel
#

rip that couldve been a good run I just got this

young echo
#

round 1 wee joker I cant afford

#

yay

manic stream
#

No jokers at all

young echo
#

I love how either 1 of us is completely winning or one of us is completely losing

odd sorrel
#

lol

young echo
#

Just got emporor into emporor into fool into emporor into emporor into fool XD

full siren
#

Emperor fool chain v2

odd sorrel
#

man I lost got horrid jokers and no good tarots to dupe

#

and then they give me this

young echo
#

todo list went from high car to pair to high card to straight flush

tribal sage
tribal sage
#

idk what is this red card joker name

#

yep its just red card

odd sorrel
#

you like stone cards right? this is my run rn

young echo
#

lol

#

holo Im assuming?

odd sorrel
#

well this is where I lost

young echo
#

rip

odd sorrel
young echo
#

DANG

#

big rips

odd sorrel
#

this my set up lol

young echo
#

lol

odd sorrel
#

it lasted a really long time too

young echo
#

isnt bp better on fist?

#

wait does fist work on stone cards?

#

100% not right?

odd sorrel
#

maybe later on idk

#

I have no clue for stone cards

young echo
#

šŸ‘€ Id assume not cause 50 multi would be bonkers

young echo
#

Just figured out the invis joker is slightly transparent

odd sorrel
#

lol this my set up ig

#

I think that in the whole game a build like this with eternals and madness is my fav cause its so chaotic

#

man if only it was eternal

raven swan
#

purple stake scaling is kinda tough ngl, thought I can get away with only 1 xmult jonkler, but died to the bell 😭

young echo
#

of all builds, this is how I beat purple stake

#

also got Shoot the Moon

#

which is a good +mult

odd sorrel
#

OMD I MIGHT HAVE BEATEN ORANGE

#

I dont know for sure though

#

this build is sooooo scuffed

young echo
#

gl

odd sorrel
#

OMG CLIP INCOMING

#

FINALY AFTER 100+ ATTEMPTS

#

Aight now its time for gold

young echo
#

my jjoker setup

tribal sage
#

yay the demo highest score seed works still on demo

young echo
#

I just tried to play wof XD

raven swan
tribal sage
raven swan
#

are you still playing demo or what

tribal sage
#

this is seed

odd sorrel
#

damn that one is an og we completly maxed it

tribal sage
odd sorrel
#

yeah we were a group that worked on it. iirc me and someone else found out how to get a fourth bs then I optimized the run to get fish with those and a few steel then arkana found a way to get multiple rps then I optimized his run with a bit more steels and then he found a way to get spectrals and dupe with cryptid a lot

#

😦

tired matrix
#

any tips for the gold stake on the checkered deck? should you still go for flushes with reduced hand size?

young echo
#

Ive done ghost decfk and not painted

#

havent done checkered

tired matrix
#

which hand type did you mainly use on gold ghost?

#

cant seem to beat manacle with flushes

young echo
#

ummm

#

I dont remember lol

#

Ive played so many runs at this point its hard to remember all of them

young echo
#

OO yay a negati- oh

unkempt monolith
#

swashbuckler/bbcard value

young echo
#

got bored

unkempt monolith
#

makes sense

odd sorrel
#

this the build im running rn

#

OMG NOOOOOO!!!!!

#

next up is the final boss but its violet and I dont have enough

young echo
#

shoot the moon deck

tired matrix
#

giving up on the gold stake checkered. been basically retrying the first 2 bosses for an hour now

odd sorrel
tired matrix
#

usually flush but ive done a few based around pants

#

i got an e11 deck on the orange stake and i think i used up all my luck on that one lol

#

the gold stake just seems killer if you dont get hand size jokers

odd sorrel
#

lol I have like a bunch of completions and my high-score is 2mil

odd sorrel
#

blessed by rng gods

#

I swear they gotta make it so psychic boss doesnt let you play unless you have five cards cause I just sold my 87th run

young echo
odd sorrel
#

you still gonna try to beat gold?

young echo
#

Tmr

#

I have a busy weekend

#

still have homework + gotta watch my nephew

odd sorrel
#

😦

young echo
#

rip

#

just a couple more hours

young echo
#

what if you got 0 chips but naninf multi?

#

actually nvm new patch wont let you get lvl 0 hands

odd sorrel
#

your score would be naneinf probably

young echo
#

so how long you gonna keep trying for gold stake today?

odd sorrel
#

until I get it

#

I havent gotten a close run since the one I posted

young echo
#

no sleep?

odd sorrel
#

Ill sleep when I finish this

#

or I may just pass out

young echo
#

I think it would be more fun if you slept till tmr

#

then I have a SMALL chance of catchin up

odd sorrel
#

Its not about the race at this point its about the deck I hate this piece of shit so I just want to finish this challenge so I can stop doing it

young echo
#

lol

#

you burned yourself out by going to fast

odd sorrel
#

I'm only burned out of this challenge but I still really enjoy the game so that why I'm trying ot finish this fast so tmw I can enjoy more of the game

young echo
#

ok

raven swan
deft bridge
#

so basically, someone has already maxed the game?

manic stream
#

yes

raven swan
#

It was seeded, but yeah

#

naneinf score was unseeded

#

Highest ante seeded

manic stream
#

to get inf even seeded is crazy ngl

raven swan
#

True, but it came down to just being able to copy perkeo

#

It's really broken that it's even possible

deft bridge
#

i have 5 words for the video of this

#

"him me him him me"

raven swan
raven swan
tranquil talon
#

Holy crap, dude

young echo
#

gm

#

did a misplay and did 1 to many hands so lost a dollar

queen hazel
#

That hurts

#

Like physically

young echo
#

I got first shop campfire nesxt run

#

and lost

#

first shop order LOL

#

what is my luck

queen hazel
#

How many tries did it take to get past purple

young echo
#

idk

#

like 20 maybe?

#

I finally get perkeo, but I have to sell it to use ankh

queen hazel
#

Hmm

young echo
#

actually I need + multi...

#

and bp perkeo on neptune...

queen hazel
#

Arrow head gives just chips right?

young echo
#

yeah

#

F it lets go

#

1st time getting perkeo I aint just leavin

queen hazel
#

BP + perkeo should hopefully be enough to carry

young echo
#

I kept getting grim and other bad cards so had to sell for +multi

#

now I get neptune...

#

f you gamne

queen hazel
#

How set up is your deck for straight flush

#

Could be risky

odd sorrel
#

I just woke up had to stop yesterday cause I couldnt think, congrats on orange stake

young echo
#

oss is plant, so I lost

odd sorrel
#

I think the only way to win is if boss is bell or if boss is acorn but you have jokers that dont matter withorder

young echo
#

or leaf

odd sorrel
#

unless you hsve negatives I dont think leaf is possible

#

or you have reallllyyyy good cards in the deck

young echo
#

wdym

raven swan
#

is getting gold on painted deck a challenge of some kind or what

young echo
#

just have multiple x multi and leaf is fine

young echo
odd sorrel
#

well for leaf if you dont sell a joker then all of your jokers gotta have extremly high mult and that usualy aint the case

young echo
#

I mean campfire and like 40 + multi is a free win most of the time

odd sorrel
#

I have never gotten that cause its a rare and Im usualy too poor

young echo
#

fair

#

full skip orange stake XD

#

or almost full skip, 2nd extoplasm was a mistake

manic stream
#

anyone here knows what the ante 8 record so far?

#

idk how mine compares but i think its pretty nice

odd sorrel
#

My jokers were: pants (foil), blue, ramen, cavendish

young echo
#

I have been busy so cant play 😭

odd sorrel
#

rip well it was fun at first but the end was ā˜ ļø

young echo
#

yep

raven swan
#

tbf, painted deck is just red deck with eternal troubadour

odd sorrel
#

not on gold diff lol -1 hand size -1 discard

young echo
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UMMMMMMMMMMM

raven swan
odd sorrel
raven swan
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no you dont get it

odd sorrel
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red was pretty easy compared to paint

raven swan
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oh wait, not red deck, blue*

odd sorrel
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I know that in theory yes its like if you had that joker permanently but in practice it doesnt feel like it

odd sorrel
manic stream
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you better get sock and buskin xd

young echo
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trust me

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I am

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10 million

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28 mil

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if I get glass on my red seal king

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its over

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sadly no justice

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easiest orange stake of my life

odd sorrel
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fr lol wth is that

young echo
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325 mil

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thats what it is

raven swan
young echo
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I wish I kept baron

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wouldve been so much more 😭

young echo
raven swan
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I'm out here only getting 1 after 30 hours

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actually like 20 ish, excluding idle time

young echo
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this just took me 40 hours

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best 2 to get together also

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lost ante 12

odd sorrel
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well thats still a huge run my record is ante 10 on white lol

manic stream
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i mean i dont think i played actual unseeded rather than modded and i got like 2 legendaries in packs already

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i think i have maybe 5 hours unseeded?

young echo
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thats just you being the luckiest man alive

odd sorrel
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yeah all I ve been doing is grinding gold stake I just unlocked the last deck after beating paint

young echo
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I got all decks 2 days ago

odd sorrel
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I have like 30h in the game but I have like no high-score a bunch of missing jokers and etc.

manic stream
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in my record run i posted here i got a legendary for my run

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funnily enough i duped queens even before getting it