Experimental Deck Peek

[somber smelt]

Patch notes for 0.9.0o
Changes:
-General performance improvements
-Can now sell cards in more situations
-Changed negative effect to be slightly hue shifted
-New run screen in main menu defaults to 'Continue' when applicable
-reworded Death to be more clear
-Bosses that debuff your entire hand and throw it away warn you when they are about to do so
-Brand new tooltip system, more information is now displayed for cards
-Renamed high scores to stats
-New top 10 stats screen for each most used Joker/Consumable/Voucher
-You now get a sticker for beating the demo with the base Stake difficulty for each Joker in the collection

Bug Fixes:
-Fixed a bug where collection alerts were staying on screen after closing the collection menu
-Fixed a bug where viewing poker hands was creating garbage in engine
-Fixed a bug where using consumables when round ends crashes game
-Fixed a bug where non-integer numbers were being shown for display resolution
NOTE - SDL scaling doesn't play nice with Windows, so if you have windows scaling set to anything other than 100% your 'fullscreen' resolution numbers might look wonky. Make Balatro run in high DPI mode to fix this, but otherwise there isn't an issue with the numbers being off
-Fixed a bug where To Do list had hand reroll on reload
-Fixed a bug where some buttons could be clicked multiple times (Cash out, sell, use, open, etc.)
-Fixed a bug where packs were respawning on load after rerolling in the shop

[red adder]

Looking forward to reading all the feedback

[tired solstice]

Very excited to try this!

[errant maple]

Will be testing this out later. Sounds interesting!

[humble otter]

My muscle memory is kicking in, in that I go to run info to check my full deck 😛

[somber smelt]

Yeah I knew that would probably be an adjustment - but for new players this is likely more intuitive

[long crypt]

for the first boss its hard to distinguish disabled cards and remaining cards

[real jacinth]

It doesn't seem like I can check the contents of my deck when I have 0 cards remaining in the draw pile

Also when I try and click on the linked form it states "This form can only be viewed by users in the owner's organization." Not sure if it's only on my end, though

[open nest]

huh, no notices about the silent buffs in the patch notes

[somber smelt]

That is on my end, looking into it

[somber smelt]

How about now?

[real jacinth]

I'm able to view it now, thanks!

[waxen nest]

I'm imputting the code gettingThunky on the beta participation thingy but nothing is happening, where do I have to go after that?

[tired solstice]

The dropdown should show the beta now

[open nest]

it should show the version below the field and you should be able to download it

[waxen nest]

Only "experimental - for early updates - less stable" appears for me

[open nest]

send screenshot

if you can

[waxen nest]

This channel doesn't let me send screenshots here

[open nest]

then go to #🃏・off-topic

[waxen nest]

I PM'd it to you

[humble otter]

omg, just randomly found that i can click the deck to get a visual of whats remaining and not just the hover info, thats niiice

[analog lava]

is this a spire joke or some blind i’m forgetting 😭

[open nest]

did you click check code

[waxen nest]

yes

[open nest]

flush and straight are x4

now

[open nest]

go to dms ill try to help there

[analog lava]

oh cool

[waxen nest]

Update: We did not figure out why it's not working

[long crypt]

Nothing really to report after my first game, I just vibed and half forgot that the deck was there, though my deck was just discard for higher cards

[tired solstice]

Maybe steam just needs an update?

[tired solstice]

Did you try ending Steam with task manager and then reopening it

Sometimes updates don’t push or take a while to show up

[waxen nest]

Alright, will do

[tired solstice]

Might also just be a time thing though unfortunately

[waxen nest]

Alright it appeared now, thanks!

[tired solstice]

Eyy nice

Glad to hear it!

[long crypt]

I found a bug

clicking view deck as you win the blind makes the card stay stuck in the center of the screen

[edgy plinth]

I find that the red cards are a lot harder to see than the black cards, they are like more faded out, makes it harder to read, maybe because the red is lighter?

[waxen nest]

Looking at the new UI for the Aura card and WOW it looks great, really really nice job

[light quiver]

I like the new death tooltip, and the view deck for the remaining cards is also nice

[jade panther]

the new update is awsome, but I am not sure if you meant the graied out cards should be this dark, bc it makes it difficult to see which cards are not in your deck. This applies only to the red cards.

[edgy plinth]

Agreed!

[jade panther]

and especially when its a steel red card, it's impossible to see neither the number nor the suit

[edgy plinth]

I found this new boss, the tooth, and I'm in negative money now? this is new, but very interesting hehehe

[tame frigate]

Imagine negative modifiers cards that give money

[jade panther]

you could have negative money before the update too when playing against that boss, so i think it was intentional

[edgy plinth]

I know it's not a bug, but I just found this one now hahah I like it actually

[jade panther]

Also, i just played against the psychic boss and it was nice letting you know that you aren't playing a hand with 5 cards and letting you play a new hand

[jade panther]

Same tbh, I think its a really nice feature to the game and it adds way more depth to it

[humble otter]

I am in love with having this deck info, informed decisions make me feel like I have more agency in whether I win or lose.

[unique prairie]

The psychic change is SO FING NICE

[long crypt]

I have such a good build going

[weak hawk]

deck peeking is less impactful than i thought it would be, it kinda feels just like qol

[eager sleet]

oh cool

[somber smelt]

This is what I thought as well, when I am actually playing the game I rarely use it

[long crypt]

I got 23 aces rn

[light quiver]

i use it fairly often, though i do gravitate towards flush most of the time

[weak hawk]

yeah same, ive mainly used it for 50/50s on discards if im looking for a specific hand

[eager sleet]

average 5oak run:

[weak hawk]

like if i have 3 pairs and want a full house

[regal berry]

-You now get a sticker for beating the demo with the base Stake difficulty for each Joker in the collection
what does this mean

[analog lava]

does what it says on the tin, when you win the game with a joker you get a sticker

[regal berry]

ohhhh gotcha

[regal berry]

where do those live

oh nice

[eager sleet]

oooh cool

[somber smelt]

also please PLEASE share your stats in Settings > Stats > card stats

[unique prairie]

The tooltips are AMAZING. Good work on those, they are super helpful for both new and old players

[somber smelt]

I'm a fiend

[eager sleet]

can’t wait to try this out when I get home(hopefully)

[waxen nest]

:O omg that got revamped??

that looks awesome!

also could we have picture permits in this chat?

[somber smelt]

Oh crap

oops

one sec

[analog lava]

those are off for all threads in this server btw

[waxen nest]

ayy W!

[somber smelt]

Try that?

[regal berry]

if there was steam cloud sync i could share my main machine stats

[somber smelt]

YOOOOOO

you have no idea how happy this makes me

[light quiver]

i like these stats a lot too

[somber smelt]

numbers ❤️

[weak hawk]

full house my beloved

[regal berry]

these are sick actually yea

[waxen nest]

Wait where is Misprint /silly

[unique prairie]

Those are rookie numbers /hj

[weak hawk]

i would love to be able to scroll and see all of the cards' stats

[sharp delta]

W ui change

[waxen nest]

Y'all sleepin' on misprint! Smh

[weak hawk]

i wanna see everything

[somber smelt]

This was about 10% of the work required to scroll

[somber smelt]

(my engine doesn't have a scroll UI element, still haven't built that part)

[normal sun]

i love how 3 people who posted stats have juggler as second most used but not first

[eager sleet]

misprint my beloved

[analog lava]

different pages would work

[waxen nest]

💖

[eager sleet]

(if I can I always take it)

[light quiver]

we love aura

[eager sleet]

I wonder what my most used spectral is

[waxen nest]

You took more incantatiosn than immolate? Huh!

[weak hawk]

oh yikes, you could always do side arrows like in deck selection if scrolling is too much work

[long crypt]

my goodness

[unique prairie]

Oh I HATE immolate

[long crypt]

I have used aura like 5 times

[waxen nest]

This stat screen is awesome - there is gonna be so much cool discussion around discussing people's stats

[regal berry]

psychic change is godlike

[tired solstice]

I love numbers

[unique prairie]

@somber smelt While your here. Can we get a reveal on what the most hours played on the demo for a single player is?

[jade panther]

when I say full house is the best suit, but I've been upgrading it like crazy compeared to all of the others

[somber smelt]

I don't have that information

[regal berry]

while youre here, can we get a reveal of your credit card information?

[jade panther]

lol

[sharp delta]

1 million

[somber smelt]

8675 3094 2069 1234

[waxen nest]

People really like Full Houses huh

[unique prairie]

I guess the survey only counts hours on the game

[regal berry]

ive never gotten this far what do i do now

[unique prairie]

Jenny?

[eager sleet]

full house is a popular kind of build apparently

[humble otter]

haa

[sharp delta]

Btw does the death/victory screen show what jokers you had as well, I’m too far away from home to see

[regal berry]

full house strong and easy to build around

[regal berry]

are jokers like the 3 of a kind one supposed to trigger on full houses?

[analog lava]

yes

[normal sun]

yes, it says "contains"

[somber smelt]

Sorry to stifle here - I wanted to keep this thread about the deck peeking feature and feedback around it. That is my bad!

Please carry on this convo in the other channels though

[normal sun]

can we post stats in other channels

[somber smelt]

Yes!

[sharp delta]

No worries, I’ll diss a pear

[eager sleet]

maybe separate thread/channel or smth

[regal berry]

(there should be a stats channel)

[somber smelt]

maybe #🕹・game-discussion

[eager sleet]

or that works

[unique prairie]

So the deck peek feels like a crazy nice QOL feature, and i doubt it could be abused

[somber smelt]

#1162105713074655435

[eager sleet]

going off by what everyone’s saying, im just gonna guess deck peek basically only shows the cards that haven’t been drawn yet

[eager sleet]

👍

[somber smelt]

Yes and it doesn't show order

[eager sleet]

yeah I figured

[somber smelt]

There are 2 views of it though. For those that use it, do you use the peek or the full view?

[long crypt]

1m in the experimental mode

[tame frigate]

Overall this experiment feels rlly solid and helpful overall.

[light quiver]

i generally use the peek

[weak hawk]

mainly the peek

[humble otter]

peek

[weak hawk]

i use the full view whenever im just curious about what enhanced cards i have

[waxen nest]

Full view; information overload on the peek

[tame frigate]

Same

[weak hawk]

peek might be better if it only showed suits and values tbh, there aren't many cases where'd id use peek over full view to see specific cards

[tame frigate]

I think the visual indicator is a lot more helpful than the number grid personally

[waxen nest]

I can see that the peek is gonna be better for people that spend hundreds of hours on the game and know how to parse this info like the back of their hands but it's not a good UI for new players. I feel either it should be massively streamlined or placed as a toggleable setting in the menus

[tame frigate]

Agreed

[jade panther]

@somber smelt since you are here, i would really like to adress this point I made before

address*

[somber smelt]

I see all the messages - I'll go through them and update accordingly in a patch

[waxen nest]

Sent my feedback on the google feedback thingy 👀

[rose dust]

dude this is just what I was waiting for

[unique prairie]

peek

[somber smelt]

So this definitely could be the case, but there is a possibility that you are already used to the full deck view so that information seems more organized to you. I wonder what brand new players would think, since both screens are likely information overload and they would gravitate to one (hopefully peek)

[rose dust]

like fr just today I was playing and thinking "damn a way to check what many cards I have left would be so helpful to help me make decisions" and boom there it is

[somber smelt]

If not, then I could look into streamlining it further

[waxen nest]

That's a great argument, yeah. Altho if you're new to everything, seeing this flash on your screen when you hover over the deck could be an even bigger information overload - they already have the entire game to parse and understand, seeing a literal table of information won't help with these first few hours

[weak hawk]

i just dont typically need to see how exactly how many 10 of hearts and 7 of spades i have, the rank and suit amounts by themselves would be both more useful and easier to parse for me

[waxen nest]

If it's already not this feature should 100% be disabled during the tutorial - trying to learn what blinds, discards and etc is and be slammed with a table like that is not ideal I feel

[humble otter]

maybe instead of the hover being the peek, the click be the peek, and move the deck info back to its old area in run info?

and have it taught in the tutorial

so it doesnt surprise someone

also might be niche

[light quiver]

oh the blind is no longer the last option in run info, my muscle memory keeps clicking vouchers instead

[jade panther]

i feel the same way. I think that only having the top line is enough information for the peak; otherwise, if someone wanted to know more information, they could easily go to the full preview.

[somber smelt]

I kind of think having 13 columns of information is more the issue than the numbers in the middle

That is the hard part to navigate for me at least

[waxen nest]

This is cute, having the "Stones: 2" there

[rose dust]

yeah it kinda spooked me at first but you get used to it quite quickly

[waxen nest]

Honestly, I feel like you could just have this pop up and forgo the table idea entirely

[humble otter]

suit info?

[waxen nest]

And add the number of each suits after the 2s, so "10 spades, 12 hearts, 10 clubs, 13 diamons"

[humble otter]

ah, didnt let you finish 😛

[jade panther]

Yeah thats exactly what i meant,and if someone whants to see the suit, then they can go to the full overview

[waxen nest]

Is there any build in the game that makes you ask "Should I discard the 2 of heart or the 2 of clubs depending on what's in my deck"?

[somber smelt]

For a little context - a majority of players were at least annoyed to some extent by not having access to this information, so the expectation is already there to display something. So I definitely wouldn't want to hide it under a menu option for the peek

[lime mauve]

flush house maybe?

[analog lava]

the rank digits should be more pronounced imo

[waxen nest]

I feel like the information of if you have more 2 of hearts or 2 of clubs in your deck is so niche and rarely applicable it doesn't justify the information overload and UI clutter imo

[somber smelt]

Larger? as in the labels?

[analog lava]

the labels yeah. idk what needs to be done but my attention is kinda split between everything in the chart

[weak hawk]

shitty mockup of smaller version lol

[jade panther]

This looks really nice

But i would like the icons to be a bit bigger

[long crypt]

Omg the fool motification is so nice!

[waxen nest]

13 is a prime number so we can't divide them into equal number rows 😔

[long crypt]

D:

[weak hawk]

since there's less info it can all be larger as a whole

which would be nice for readability

[long crypt]

what about stone cards

[jade panther]

Yeah thats what I mean

[somber smelt]

I have a feeling people would get annoyed at this

Right now the balance is 'show the player what they need without needing to switch UI context' and 'don't show too much'

I appreciate the mockups but I wanted to try this setup for now and if it's actually an issue for newer players then I can dial it back a bit

I've learned that this is the kind of change that probably needs quite a few eyes on it to determine that balance

[weak hawk]

i would definitely prefer what we have now over nothing

[rose dust]

Like I don't feel it's too intrusive, it's there and it's not that annoying, like I've played a bunch of games without checking it and when I need to I can get it much quiker than having to go to the menu

[somber smelt]

Yeah I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, if this is much better than before but not perfect then that is a huge W for me

[jade panther]

either way if you continue with the design thats in the game or a newer design, i would really appriciate if the icons as a whole would be a bit begger

[weak hawk]

my concept was definitely one made for me, not a playerbase as a whole

[waxen nest]

As much as we may complain about the UI this is awesome

(and the UI isn't even bad tbfh)

[somber smelt]

The purpose was to have the data on screen so your brain doesn't need to context switch

[waxen nest]

There's points it can become better but it's by no means bad

[somber smelt]

As opposed to many deckbuilders where it really bothered me that you need to pull up a huge menu for any of the same information

[weak hawk]

the mouse-over is very nice for sure

i like it a lot

[jade panther]

I know this would be a lot of work, but if you could make like a toggleable switch to change from the view now to a more summarized view, like the one by @weak hawk would be very cool

[somber smelt]

Oh any controller people? I needed to test that too

it's available on LT pull, full deck is RT

[waxen nest]

Being able to mouse over and see all the info is super convenient, even if I haven't gotten the hang of the table yet

[lime mauve]

this seems like a very good addition, but it's gonna be hard to train myself to not press "Run Info"

[somber smelt]

Upside is that your poker hands AND your deck are now 1 click away

[weak hawk]

ooh yeah i like seeing poker hands with 1 click too

[waxen nest]

Growing pains; it happens during game dev like this. In no time you'll be used and it'll be smooth sailing

[light quiver]

muscle memory keeps striking but thats just a temporary thing

[lime mauve]

yeah, that's my issue, but it's such a helpful feature

[light quiver]

i dont find the peek to be information overload, i generally either just look at the suits or the rank count and rarely check how much of a specific card i have left

[jade panther]

maybe swiching the poker hands preview to the new full deck preview would be the best and all of the info about your cards could be in one place

[somber smelt]

Is there a scenario you need to look at both?

I would think that those 2 menu navs would always be unrelated

[weak hawk]

the only case i can think that id use both together is if im doing two different upgraded hands with supernova and i wanna compare the likelyhood of either one to the mult id get

[jade panther]

no I ment as a tab like on the top

[weak hawk]

which is. not gonna be often

so id prefer them both being 1 click

[somber smelt]

Yeah I think I understood what you meant, but I just don't see a use case for having that tab there

[jade panther]

i just think that the info about your poker hands is connected closely to the deck, so having all of the info at one place would be nice

[thorn owl]

it's very interesting to see my joker usage

[weak hawk]

the odd todd enjoyer

[thorn owl]

odd todd is great though

[lime mauve]

my jokers are funky

[waxen nest]

Y'all are SLEEPING on misprint fr fr

[somber smelt]

Please use #1162105713074655435 to share those!

[lime mauve]

i did not realize this was a thing

thank you

[somber smelt]

No worries, trying to keep this thread on the topic of deck preview things

[thorn owl]

i'd probably change it so "view deck" is shown on hover

if it hasn't already been mentioned

[somber smelt]

Why is that?

[waxen nest]

It feels weird to have it always there, tbfh.

[thorn owl]

mostly UI feel, it feels weird to have this on top of the deck at all times

[unique prairie]

Wait. How does peek work when cards are hiden

[waxen nest]

When I first saw it there I thought it was a bug that it got stuck there

[weak hawk]

oh yeah i like looking at the card back there

[somber smelt]

Is it obvious enough that you need to click the deck without the words?

[unique prairie]

Oh wait. I just assumed it was for the demo to highlight what to do

[weak hawk]

having "view deck" fade away after you start a blind could work

[waxen nest]

You could have it only appear when you hover the deck; that's how UI like this usually works

[weak hawk]

so you see it every round but it doesnt stay the whole time

[thorn owl]

if you hover over the deck and it shows "view deck" when you do, i'd assume it would be clickable as a new player

[unique prairie]

Maybe in like the first round ever keep it there. But yeah, its really obvious and a jarring thing if its there permanently

[somber smelt]

Okay I could:

• keep it there during tutorial first couple rounds
• show it only on hover
• remove it entirely

If it's jarring to always have it there for sure, I'll change it

[weak hawk]

1 and 2 would defo work

[thorn owl]

i can see it for the tutorial

[jade panther]

I personally feel that it adds a nice feel to the deck and it makes it more aesthetically pleasing having "view deck"

[waxen nest]

I can see both A and B working together

[rare quest]

Hope this isn't off topic, but we mentioned before the possibility of Seeded runs not counting for Progression. Is it possible to make Seeded runs not count for Stats? When rerunning the same seed over and over, it inflates the counts for the jokers and consumables which appear in that run.

[somber smelt]

It also didn't bother me, but the card back art is kinda fun for some of the decks so I wouldn't mind getting rid of it

[somber smelt]

For sure

[rare quest]

ty, boss

[thorn owl]

i can't wait to see the other decks

[weak hawk]

common localthunk W

[unique prairie]

I will however miss being able to drag a card around the screen for half an hour to entertain my adhd brain

[weak hawk]

you can still drag it lol

[unique prairie]

Ig we can do it with joker cards, but its less silly

[thorn owl]

oh, yeah, so you can

[obtuse coral]

• Because of this - this version of the demo can not be streamed or used to make videos

Can I stream it to friends thru discord though?

[somber smelt]

No chance in hell I get rid of the draggable card

[somber smelt]

I would prefer not - if you want to please use a different build

[weak hawk]

thank you for that

[obtuse coral]

K

[thorn owl]

just a thought, but it'd be neat if the card dragged does something funny occasionally when it returns

like maybe sometimes it spins, or bounces

[weak hawk]

i would like to drag every card i can click to be honest

[unique prairie]

How lonf did that card drag take to code /gen

[thorn owl]

#drageverycard

[rose dust]

You get rid of that and we riot

[somber smelt]

As you should

[waxen nest]

I'm sorry @somber smelt but the demo is literally unplayable - we cannot drag the cards around in the card stats page. Literally unplayable

[jade panther]

i got a bug when playing the head blind, where both heart and diamond cards were debuffed

[rare quest]

Every card draggable when?

[waxen nest]

They stand up but no dragging

[rose dust]

When I clicked on the ace at the start screen and I saw you could drag it around, I knew that this game was going to be something really fucking good

[somber smelt]

Did you have Smeared joker?

[jade panther]

yes

[weak hawk]

uninstalling the game immediately

[rare quest]

Classic.

[vernal stratus]

Mr.Thunk, thank you for adding a safety net to the psychic fight!!!!! oml I have wasted so many hands not thinking about it. S+++ teir feature

[somber smelt]

I feel so much shame

[thorn owl]

okay, already like this change

[jade panther]

now i feel dumb, i didn't know this was an intended mechanic

[thorn owl]

being able to quickly tell which cards have been discarded during a round really helps when i can't really do the card counting thing

[vernal stratus]

i did the same last week lOL

[rose dust]

[waxen nest]

Tbfh smeared joker could be reworded to make this confusion less obvious

[somber smelt]

Now the question I really have for you all is:

Do you even use the remaining cards in deck feature? Please play a couple runs and let me know how often you actually use it

The same question is in the google form

[thorn owl]

remaining cards in deck?

[lime mauve]

for me opening the deck and seeing the greyed out cards is way easier than trying to read the graph

[thorn owl]

so far, it seems pretty useful

[rose dust]

I have played a bit and yeah, it helps a lot specially when you don't know if you still have a powered up card left

[thorn owl]

will fill out a form once i play with it enough

[somber smelt]

Just wanting it quantified a little - I'll add a poll to this channel

[weak hawk]

i used it less than the peek, but still occasionally

to check for enhancements

[unique prairie]

Remaining is just infinitely more useful than full imo. It doesnt matter that I have 15 aces, if ive already used 11 of them

[light quiver]

remaining cards as in this?

[waxen nest]

3 finished runs in (2 won, 1 lost to the final boss): A lot.
It helps make more informed choices in the early game and make me feel like I have more control over that early game and it's not just luck
It helps me determinate which cards in hand I should discard to make pairs/3oaks/4oaks, or if that card even can make a 3oak

These are the main uses and they come up surprisingly often I feel

[Assuming this means the general capability to see the cards left in deck, either via the peak or by seeing the full deck]

[open nest]

personally didnt have much time to test but I dont think Id be using it. Maybe because I am used to not having it though

[jade panther]

i use it more than the peek tbh

[thorn owl]

it's the picture i just posted earlier

[rose dust]

Omw to play more Balatro cause localthunk told me to. (I was gonna do it anyways)

[unique prairie]

I have 49.9 hours on the game... OH GOD DO I ANSWER 40 OR 50 HOURS ON THER SURVEY

[waxen nest]

Hop back onto Ballantro to turn it into 50

[steady falcon]

the ability to view your deck really helps increase consistency with decks that actual require using a brain ||looking at you 5oak and flush decks||

[unique prairie]

I have class in like 10 mins :*(

[thorn owl]

this is a really useful update

[unique prairie]

^^^

[thorn owl]

i already know what they do

but for a new player, or just as a reminder, it's very helpful

[unique prairie]

Honestly it wasnt till that update that I realised it could add hologrphic

[rose dust]

Yeah I had to go back and forth the menu just to be sure I knew what each did

[somber smelt]

#🧪・experimental message

[somber smelt]

This was so much work

[steady falcon]

it was worth it

[thorn owl]

i appreciate it

[steady falcon]

W feature

[somber smelt]

It's easier to add everywhere now

[weak hawk]

awesome feature

[somber smelt]

notably missing from skip rewards

[rare quest]

Thoughts:
Interface for Deck View is very smooth the way the Play/Discard buttons dip down to make room for the Deck View pop-up.

But I feel the display gives too much metadata for me to parse at a glance. Even if I want simple information such as "how many 8's do I have left?" I have to visually scan over all of the totals to find the tiny 8 with a tiny 2 under it.

Personally, I would like the old Deck View to just have an extra tab for "Full Deck" vs "Unplayed." And then on the "Unplayed" tab, the played cards either are grayed out or don't appear.

[lime mauve]

wait there's also hand prevention for the Psychic and the Arm now?

massive LocalThunk W

[rare quest]

In the Poll, I voted for "Almost every hand" as in I would, in theory, if

1. I wasn't playing Seeded
2. The output was easier (for me) to read

[somber smelt]

Any of you get a fun white sticker yet?

[thorn owl]

oh huh, that's new

[steady falcon]

i wonder what card i had 9 copies of...

[waxen nest]

Yup!

[thorn owl]

against The Psychic boss blind, it stopped me from playing 4 cards

thank you for this

[waxen nest]

Me n the boys

[light quiver]

good ol delayed grati stared

[weak hawk]

the sticker will be a different colors for higher stakes right?

[somber smelt]

yeah

[thorn owl]

i still played 4 cards anyway. (Not allowed!)

[jade panther]

I noticed this and wanted to report it. If you look closely at the six hearts, you can see the text "view deck" being displayed when gathering your cards from opening a tero pack. Is this intentional?

[waxen nest]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[weak hawk]

sweeet

[waxen nest]

Did you not sell the gratification for verdant?

[light quiver]

it was a random

[waxen nest]

Ohh, the good ol' save justice for verdant right?

Makes sense

[thorn owl]

can confirm, this happens to me too

did the multipliers for hands change or is it just me

[somber smelt]

The engine glues the button to the top card of the deck, so intentional but weird

[somber smelt]

Oh, yeah

they did

[thorn owl]

okay, was like "wait, straight doesn't get +3 mult on level"

[somber smelt]

You can beat blind 1 with Straight now

and Flush?

[jade panther]

ok just wanted to be sure it wasn't a bug

[somber smelt]

Also Straight scales much faster

and Straight flush

[waxen nest]

W!

[weak hawk]

nice!

[thorn owl]

straight hand bros... we finally made it...

[somber smelt]

I just won with a straight build

So it's viable for sure

[humble otter]

yess gamers who enjoy straights rise up!

[weak hawk]

finally i can play with straights

[thorn owl]

we're doing it live

[humble otter]

my first win this afternoon was also a straight run, haha

[steady falcon]

quite funny taken out of context

[thorn owl]

just because of this slight change to mults here, i've found a very interesting strat i'm trying out for straights

[weak hawk]

wait noo im gay i swear

[thorn owl]

i wonder how many people bother with the "aura" spectral card...

[steady falcon]

when the other option is incantation

all the time

[waxen nest]

It's a middle-of-the-road option for me

Worse than Oujia, Sigil, Grim and Immolate but better than Familiar, Incantation and Wrath

[somber smelt]

Pack exploit patched confirmed? Or not confirmed

[rare quest]

I can test

[somber smelt]

I appreciate it

[rose dust]

which one?

[somber smelt]

It's important for me to get rid of things that will mess with daily runs

[thorn owl]

familiar would be good if we weren't forced against the "faces are disabled" boss blind

wraith is good if you're lucky enough to be broke at the time

incantation though...

[humble otter]

I was trying to phrase that in a way it couldn't be misinterpreted, but guess I failed haha

[rare quest]

"Pack Peeking" is not patched

But "Pack Respawn" is patched

[humble otter]

I try to snag aura when the other options are bad, at least it doesnt have a downside

[somber smelt]

iirc the respawning was the major issue right?

The peeking is still a problem, but more of a 'cheating information' problem and not a 'do something impossible' problem

[obtuse coral]

:(

i liked getting infinite packs as long as i had the money for them

[rare quest]

Correct.

[long crypt]

my goodness 180 new messages in 1 hour

[thorn owl]

lets go

[waxen nest]

STRAIGHT WIN? 👀

[thorn owl]

straight win

with the extra mults, runner became a very powerful joker

also helped that i got a negative four fingers

[rose dust]

Liberal Balatro be like:
GAY WIN? 👀

[dusty willow]

im so glad that psychic tells you that you must play 5 cards before confirming

best change of all time

there is a bug if you spam click play hand though, it gets a little buggy

but the minor changes like rewording death tarot and stuff like this is awesome

uhh why is this happening

my card :(

[long crypt]

lol

[eager sleet]

oh boye

🪲

[long crypt]

🪲 moment

[normal sun]

lmao

[somber smelt]

Did you face the Wheel before that happened?

[long crypt]

face the wheel sounds so menacing LOL

[dusty willow]

no im pretty sure

i can check

i faced the psychic

btw how does the boss rerolling tag work? will there be reroll specific bosses in the full release

[manic verge]

despite only using this feature a few times per run on average, i still think it's useful and i like it being here now

makes it easier to look at odds when it matters

[dusty willow]

how much you use it definitely depends on the run too

its a nice feature which pretty much just saves you some time, since you could just X out any card you got previously in a spreadsheet of sorts

[steady haven]

Just tried out the deck peeking feature and its really nice, saves time to check rank amounts for full houses

The only issue I see with the feature is that debuffed cards don't seem to be darkened as much as other cards in the remaining cards window

[dusty willow]

yeah the also transparency looks a bit weird with the overlapping imo

[somber smelt]

I'm messing around with this right now - how would you expect the played cards to look?

I can make them like orange or blue instead of grey, or make them smaller

[frail socket]

Just me sitting in the no playtest because recording, with a spreadsheet and no stars corner 😭

[steady haven]

I am fine with them being greyed out just the debuffed ones should be a bit darker so its easier to tell

[long crypt]

smaller would make the best visuals imo

[somber smelt]

I could honestly just use the red X to denote 'Debuff' and grey to denote 'played'

The X is pretty obvious by itself

[dusty willow]

yeah i think that makes sense

[latent mantle]

yea

[dusty willow]

although you might want to have that explained somewhere

[somber smelt]

The red ones will still say 'debuffed' on hover

and the grey ones disappear in the full deck view. I don't know should that get a tooltip still?

[dusty willow]

its fairly well choreographed, but you might be able to fit it somewhere in the tutorial

[vernal iris]

Deck preview is great! I feel like it could be optimized better for getting info quicker but I'm not sure how. It's great either way tho bcuz I'm able to use it when playing stuff like full house and see what's most realistic to get a triple of, at a glance 🙂 doesn't slow me down much at all

[somber smelt]

It seems like people weren't confused about what the grey ones mean from this thread

[dusty willow]

yeah fair enough, just a thought

[vernal iris]

(my full house run turned into high card by the end but that's ok lol)

[somber smelt]

I have seen that a couple of times, not really sure how I can change it globally but people have also mentioned maybe a setting in menu for different detail levels for the peek?

[latent mantle]

yea its pretty straightforward, but just in case id recommend something about it in the tutorial

[vernal iris]

Yeah I have no clue atm, I just can feel myself scanning more than I ideally should

[dusty willow]

the deck peek makes sense and looks good, but yeah it does feel like there might be a better way to display it

[vernal iris]

Im not even sure if the amount of info is the issue? It's possible larger numbers or something else to help everything pop could help

Like logically reducing info would help but I'm not scanning the grid anyway, I'm scanning the totals and that still takes time

[somber smelt]

Yes larger labels for the columns is on the docket, maybe even colour coding for Aces/Faces/Numbers

[vernal iris]

I think this would go a long way!

I need to be able to "snap" to what I want to see instead of "scan" if that makes sense?

[somber smelt]

Yeah I definitely get you

lmao you guys your responses for what your playtimes are in the google form is absurd

[vernal iris]

Oh right the Google form brb

[weak hawk]

What’s the data look like there?

[dusty willow]

forgot the 200+ hour option clearly

[somber smelt]

larg

[weak hawk]

Lol

[somber smelt]

Like a lot higher than my steam numbers for average/median times

comically so

I may share later on with more data

[dusty willow]

that does make sense that the people who play more are more active

[somber smelt]

For sure

[steady haven]

new favourite visual bug using controller

[rustic nest]

What stats are you looking for so I can quickly update then deupdate?

[steady haven]

don't know why my capture software made the window like that though

[dusty willow]

yeah you definitely weren't meant to be able to move those

[long crypt]

LOL

[rustic nest]

Also if you have any debuffed cards even if you have all black is blackboard not suppost to proc

?

[long crypt]

idk

[vernal iris]

I'm pretty sure it's intended cuz it looks at the debuffed card which disables abilities so the ability gets disabled

[normal sun]

#1162105713074655435

[dusty willow]

juggler should probably be an uncommon

[long crypt]

yeahhh

[rustic nest]

Idk I wish the joker said it on it

[vernal iris]

More a problem of debuffed being unintuitive than blackboard imo

[rustic nest]

Or maybe it would shake if activated

[vernal iris]

It's kinda inconsistent about which abilities it disables

Yeah if blackboard had some visual flare just to make sure it'll proc that'd be great

Honestly I feel like all jokers should shimmy if the selected hand fulfills their condition

[rustic nest]

Like black particles coming off of it

[high minnow]

I do want the “RT to peek” emblem to fade off the deck (on steam deck) but I don’t know when it should fade. After a few runs maybe offer an option to toggle the reminder off?

[vernal iris]

Yeah I agree, after I know that keybind it just ends up being visual clutter (same for the label on the deck)

[long crypt]

just used the peek and it saved me

[unborn furnace]

@somber smelt never noticed before, but why Judgement is #20?
new changes seem nice, but having 2 tabs for the deck is a bit weird for me.
also whats up with the order of the cards in "stats"? for Consumables it shows Fool as the first one with 6 uses, but in Tarots it is displayed as the 3rd one?

[normal sun]

they're tied at 6 each, so the order is random

also judgment is #20 because that's the number it has in a real tarot deck

[unborn furnace]

and that order is only reset on game restart? weird

[normal sun]

i don't know how it's coded

[waxen nest]

Judgement is 20 in most tarot decks tho?

[unborn furnace]

im not into tarots so i dont know anything about their decks. im asking that because judgement is inbetween "flush" tarots in the Balatro tarot list

[normal sun]

that actually bothers the dev too lol

[vernal iris]

Yeah unfortunately that's just how tarot are ordered

[waxen nest]

I agree it's pretty weird but the themeing is that tarot cards that are based on space stuff - Star, Moon, Sun and World - are all suit-changing

[weak hawk]

yeah the theming there was too good to pass up, its just unfortunate they aren't in the right order

[wise hornet]

OMG YES! I have waited so long for this feature. I was a bit sad that it wasnt in as i first played the demo. This feature is amazing!

[dusty willow]

"view deck" text doesn't dissapear when you run out of cards

pressing buttons that lead to the page that you're already on makes the cards move around weirdly. also you cant move cards in the stats page

[long crypt]

thats suppose to be like that I believe

[normal sun]

whoa

saturn got a big buff :o

[sharp delta]

all my homies do F

[normal sun]

?

[sharp delta]

for poll

[normal sun]

oh lol

[dusty willow]

oh no

[normal sun]

bount :3

[high minnow]

what are you talking abount

[somber smelt]

You know I make 1 little mistanke

[high minnow]

You have a tankless job

[dusty willow]

your pfp is the fool for a reason

[analog lava]

what was it?

[normal sun]

used to be +20/+2

[somber smelt]

Straight base also got a buff

[normal sun]

ye with flush and 3oak

i would also like to note that this increase is bigger than planet X lol

[somber smelt]

Straights are harder to come by in late game IMO

[weak hawk]

ante 1 small blind stocks are higher than ever

[normal sun]

straight flush planet (neptune) also got increased to +40/+4

[cosmic meadow]

absolutely love these changes, deck preview is very clean, stats pages are fantastic

[vernal stratus]

the stats pages are so sick!!!

[tired solstice]

Love this new demo and all the changes

The only constructive feedback I have is echoing the thing others have said, making "View Deck" not appear until you hover over the deck

[analog lava]

any nonconstructive feedback?

[tired solstice]

Thank you for implementing this! (or at least giving the implementation a try)

[jaunty star]

is modifying the code of the experimental allowed license-wise

[jaunty star]

thank you 🙏

[barren briar]

Ok so far the view deck is siiiick, and it's helping me a lot

I would say though, it would be a nice distinction to have, between cards discarded and cards currently in your hand
Like the discarded cards could be gray, and the held cards be...I guess a different color tint?

[dusty willow]

i could swear that the poker hand bases got buffed or changed somehow

[somber smelt]

Thoughts on this for the new debuff/played card look?

[normal sun]

quality Xs

[tired solstice]

are you playing a boss that debuffs Clubs?

[somber smelt]

Yes

[tired solstice]

looks good

I think that it would read clearer in general if discarded cards were removed instead of grayed out

[dusty willow]

the red x's seemly being behind the played cards looks awkward, i think if a card isn't remaining then it doesn't need the X on it

looks good otherwise though

[dusty willow]

actually this makes a lot more sense

i would probably prefer that

[sharp compass]

man,i hope i get enough time to play the experimental cuz yesterday i didnt notice this and now at 6am i notice, i gotta go sleep and thsn i can play the experimental

how much lobg do i have until experimental demo ends ?

[normal sun]

between 24-48 hours from when it was released

[analog lava]

thoughts on deck preview
much better than i thought it'd be, i find i check it very often early game (ex. to decide if i should discard x or y to find the hand), but less and less as the game goes on because i know what specific cards i want. i use the preview way more than the full screen, i wish the full screen windows were in the same "menu" as run info (i don't want the preview button removed, just all the tabs on the same screen). overall i think this is a positive addition, which is surprising as i thought it'd be super negative

thoughts on other stuff
stats screen is super cool, but the 10 limited slots makes me want more :p
base hand values changes are great, but it makes it much much easier to ohko the first blind and survive ante 1 in general--could increase ante 1 (maybe 2 as well) base values slightly to compensate. this seems like a funny cat and mouse game but i think the consistency between hand types warrants this type of change
planet changes are also great, with a couple exceptions: saturn is a bit overtuned, it's weird to me that it's better than planet X even though the difference is minute. i think it's also strange that it's so much better than the flouse and flush planets, but i'd have to play a bunch to see if/how i feel it should change
it bothers me so so much that neptune gives higher mult but lower chips than ceres, i think it's reasonable to have these two on the same power level but fix pls

[sharp compass]

when i go back from experimental will i keep my collection ?

[sudden relic]

Just wanted to mention that I used the deck peek a lot with the to-do list. Helps a lot with deciding what to discard to maximize chances for the reward.

[sharp compass]

id like a deck to hand table

so id see what 4oak or something is possible

when i look at the deck, it shows what cards are not in the deck, but when i would be looking for straight flush or something, than its kinda hard to pick a position from where the straight flush is gonna start

or i should look at that like

"what can i get from my deck, that is shown"

the new UI for tarrot cards looks nice!

i like how the at the psychic, it wont let me play my hand striaght away when its not 5cards hand

[sharp compass]

aint no way i just got ramdomly a blank seed right ?

[atomic heron]

the view deck overlay on the deck seems too large imo, i think it might look better if "view" and "deck" would be same size,slightly smaller and a bit see through

[barren briar]

After running a few runs, there are definitely moments where the deck peek helped majorly
I use it inconsistently, sometimes multiple times per ante, other times a couple times per run

And in my last run, it came in clutch when I had to make a full house but didn't know what cards were left to pair with, and so i discarded the correct cards, got the ones I wanted, and it felt so satisfying

Definitely would have lost without knowing the cards left

[jaunty star]

Red seed background means seeded, you hit the use seed button but put nothing in

[zinc shell]

why is the google form not opening for me

[normal sun]

internet moment

[zinc shell]

my internet is fine

[normal sun]

yeah but the internet's internet might not be

[zinc shell]

huh...?

[jaunty star]

meaning google could be having issues

[zinc shell]

ohhh ok

[hollow gull]

i think if there was an option "only checked view deck when i was low on cards/out of discards" for the poll, that would be perfect

i have virtually no reason to look at it otherwise, but when im running low and wanna consider my chances at a draw i do it every time.

[vital halo]

using the tarot that makes 2 cards bonus cards, when one of the cards flipped it had a yellow back, and the other a red one, im using the yellow deck this run and my deck turned red after doing this

oh its back to yellow now after 3 rounds

and its back to red again haha

[frail socket]

Have you made cards with DNA?

[vital halo]

yes

[frail socket]

Known bug, DNA makes red cards when playing with other decks

[vapid steeple]

Found a bug (not sure if known issue or not) - when playing against the phychic and you play a hand of less than 5 cards, if you double* click the "play hand" button with a hand of less than 5 cards after the warning comes up the hand will play twice and you will lose two hands (on one occasion, the hand even scored chips despite being only 3 cards)
*not sure if double click is the exact right term, I was mashing the click button so I'm not sure exactly how many times the click was registered but definitely more than once

[jaunty star]

You can also win multiple times in one hand, leading to crazy payouts with this

[vapid steeple]

good to know i'm not the only one who breaks the game by clicking excessively :>

[somber smelt]

This specifically happens when there's the boss debuff message on screen?

[long crypt]

I did it after you because I saw it

[somber smelt]

Or any time you mash play

[long crypt]

Ill test

[long crypt]

only the psychic message

[somber smelt]

Thank you

[vapid steeple]

likely just the boss, i tend to mash click a bunch

[long crypt]

np!

it was my pleasure

[lime mauve]

it also probably works with the arm

it also has the warning message

[vapid steeple]

if the arm has a similar message perhaps

it definitely happens on the psychic and it's strange

i played a pair (4 card hand) and mashed play hand and it scored it as if I played 4 of a kind

[somber smelt]

Any other double click payouts for anything else? I tried fixing that in this patch

[vapid steeple]

i havent found any other double click payouts
but i did just find something interesting
when skipping a blind right before the wheel and getting a free mega arcana pack, one of my cards was drawn facedown (likely an effect from the wheel)
not sure if that's intended or not

[long crypt]

LOL

[somber smelt]

Oh interesting

[vapid steeple]

maybe i'll be spicy and make the face down card made of glass

[long crypt]

LOL

[normal sun]

do you lose a $ for having -1 hands left?

[long crypt]

I lose so idk

[normal sun]

lol

[weak hawk]

anyone else's white stickers not showing up?

the tooltip for the sticker is there but visually there's no sticker on the joker

including after a restart

[vapid steeple]

i made the face down card glass
it didn't show me what it was in that selection menu

but i see it in the view deck button
truly a magic trick; it's Penn's favourite card

[long crypt]

LOL

[vapid steeple]

wait
this isn't right
why do i have discards now

i have burglar i shouldn't have any discards

im going to blame the double payout on psychic for this

oh
hmm
maybe the view deck should be disabled for the wheel?
otherwise i know exactly what my face down cards are

[long crypt]

I didnt get 3x the payout

only 1x

though I am in ante 5

I skipped 3 and 4

[vapid steeple]

oh by double payout i mean the double click thing
where it shows a bunch of extra things on the victory screen
and skipped an entire ante

[long crypt]

yeah

so wait

if you rerolled boss into phychic at ante 4...

you would go to ante 7

also this happend to my cards after skipping 2 antes

ITS THE VIEW DECK CARDS XD

Whenever I hover over it it views deck XD

[normal sun]

lmao

[somber smelt]

Does this bug always happen with the double-play bug?

I saw it reported earlier and I couldn't reproduce it

But if it's related to double-play then I should be able to get it

[long crypt]

yeah I just did it again

and its not double, its triple

I even got it 4 times once

[somber smelt]

So all the crazy stuff I see from #🕹・game-discussion is from that bug right?

[long crypt]

yeah

[jaunty star]

small indie developer watching their creation be mangled due to the absence of an if

[long crypt]

hey, its funny

[somber smelt]

It's all good, that's why it's experimental

You are conducting science

[long crypt]

It works on arm to

I can 100% confirm that now

[jaunty star]

I love it when people find bugs in my stuff
until it's a security bug
but most of the time it's fun

[long crypt]

what

I just played 5 cards on psychic without even spamming

and it worked

[jaunty star]

mine worked perfectly fine

I played normally and got the normal result

very confused

[long crypt]

lol

[jaunty star]

what are you doing to get this bug

[long crypt]

autoclick use hand with 5 cards on psychic

[jaunty star]

Huh, okay

[long crypt]

IM DUMB

<5 cards

I mixed it with arm

[jaunty star]

but then the hand doesn't score and can't win 😭

[agile flame]

so i was playing with this experimental build, and i accidentally submit my hand of 4 cards in the psychic. the fact it doesnt just delete your cards like it does on the main build is a change im super welcoming (ive done this a few too many times lmao)

[dusty willow]

yeah that was me, probably should have been more specific mb

[lime mauve]

@somber smelt DNA bug is fixed???

i'm heartbroken

[jaunty star]

What was the weird Lua reason for the strange todo list not being seeded right

[somber smelt]

when a non-integer key table is called with the pairs function in a for loop, the order of the table is not guaranteed like it is for an integer key table and ipairs

[agile flame]

good ol' pairs, not surprised there

i remember running into some issues with lua stuff before using ipairs

[jaunty star]

whaaat
that's lovely 💀

[grave jolt]

Sooo glad the view deck button is on hover now !

[jaunty star]

yeah it looks v nice

[somber smelt]

I don't know if there are very many common bugs left... but I would love to be proven wrong!

[weak hawk]

We’ll be hard at work 🫡

[jaunty star]

let me sleep instead of playing your game (this is totally not my fault)

[jaunty star]

@somber smelt what do the blue KQJ and the gold ace mean

also my disabled cards are no longer greyed out which seems weird

or unintentional because it's not in patch notes

overlap on cards, likely because opacity was used instead of a real gray filter?

[ionic axle]

based on this image and the patch notes I reckon it’s the colour coded columns local mentioned. However I think the KQJ blue should be changed as it is the same blue as the “effective” blue

[barren briar]

trying out the new update, what exactly was changed about to do list? it seems the same to me

though tbf i have barely used it previously

[jaunty star]

hence the confuuuusion

[jaunty star]

It is properly seeded, there was an issue where the same seed gave different todo items

[barren briar]

ah

damn, i was hoping it would change poker hands after every blind lol, hate to be stuck with it when it shows a difficult hand to make

[analog lava]

that would be a sick change

[frail socket]

Re: To do list, I think it should now definitely change the presented hand when scored, rather than having a chance to roll into the same hand again for a second or 3rd time in a row

[cinder lion]

Do you think blinds are too difficult to discover now

[jade panther]

YEssssssssssssss

[barren briar]

Hey, quick question, what do the colors mean? The yellow and blue? Are they just to indicate face cards and aces?

[normal sun]

yeah

[long crypt]

gm

I still did the psychic glitch

[somber smelt]

Ah okay, was it any harder to do?

[long crypt]

yes

I only did it 2x instead of 3-4

[somber smelt]

Ok that helps thanks

[long crypt]

np

[normal sun]

oh no it's even happening on discord

[long crypt]

hate this keyboard lol, it takes what I type and only typed it 3 seconds later

I tried it on the hook and it failed, though it also has a tight window

I got it 3 times on the psychic

maybe it was my autoclicker lagging the first time, Ill try a few more times

[somber smelt]

Have you been auto clicking everything?

[long crypt]

basically yeah

[somber smelt]

And are there any other bugs from that?

[long crypt]

only the psychic

I hate this keyboard

actually sorry I must be slow this morning

you can glitch out the cards if you autoclick back and forth on the cards but that happening without autoclicker would be rare

[somber smelt]

Like mid round?

[long crypt]

at any point

even card packs

and view deck but it fixes itself in view deck

want to see a screenshot of it

[somber smelt]

I mean to say only when you "select" a card (it moves up and down)

Hmm okay

[long crypt]

maybe its not harder cause I just did 4 on psychic

[somber smelt]

I can't reproduce the issue at all - what is the framerate on your computer? And how fast is your auto clicker?

I'm testing with a 1ms autoclick

[long crypt]

1 ms and no clue about framerate

[somber smelt]

I just mean your monitor

sorry

Like is is 60 hz, 144 hz?

[long crypt]

is there an ez way to check, Im technially challenged lol

[somber smelt]

To reproduce:

• go to the psychic
• select less than 5 cards
• auto click the play button

is that right?

[long crypt]

yes

is mine maybe not updated?

[somber smelt]

Oh

Maybe?

Let me see how you can check

Actually sorry I have to run - I'll ping you later! Thanks for the help though

[long crypt]

ok

[somber smelt]

Anyone else - please report any bugs for the newest private build here!

[tired solstice]

Love all the seeded stat changes

One thing I think might still be fun is to track “highest score (seeded)” separately from unseeded high scores in case people want to try and get the highest score they can on a seed

[indigo grail]

^yes great idea

[vital halo]

game crashed after i continued a run from yesterday

[long crypt]

rip

[vital halo]

closed and restarted and it crashed again

works fine if i just start a new run

[waxen nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722000484113711166/1150180190132109465/cateimadkgfnadkgnadg.gif

what did you do

[long crypt]

psychic glitch

[dusty willow]

thats cursed lol

112/52

[long crypt]

XD

-1 hands

ante 6/5 when I just defeated psychic

[dusty willow]

"fixed"

[dusty willow]

yeah theres still a bug with continuing in a shop i think, im not sure exactly what it is though

[long crypt]

WHAT

I have 3 hands left and I lost XD

and I didnt run out of cards

this psychic glitch just does whatever it wants

[jaunty star]

they're not going to be in the full game, they won't be locked into certain ones minus rerolls afaik

same as predemo

[severe prairie]

I've played a few runs with the peek feature and maybe I'm just not used to it but I prefer not being able to see what's left in my deck. I'm very much someone who plays to my outs but to me not knowing exactly what's left in my deck means I have to pay attention more in runs and have to make what I think is the best choice, rather than a statistically correct choice

But that's just my 2¢

[jaunty star]

then don't use it

[severe prairie]

I'm just giving feedback on the feature! It's not a complaint

[somber smelt]

I appreciate the feedback, this is one of the primary things I was concerned about because I think I also play the same way you are describing

[long crypt]

Im so close

yet so far away D:

[dusty willow]

this is a STRAIGHT??

[long crypt]

yeah

[normal sun]

yes aces are both high and low lol

poker thing

[dusty willow]

thanks poker

[normal sun]

this needs to be put in the tutorial lmao

half the players don't know about it

[long crypt]

lol

[somber smelt]

@lime mauve do you know what framerate your monitor is?

Or do you know if the game feels like it is running slowly

[lime mauve]

i do not know the framerate

the game runs super smooth though

it's never lagged in my 80 or so hurs

[somber smelt]

So just to reitorate - I feel like I am taking crazy pills I should be able to make this bug happen.

• Get to the psychic
• Select fewer than 5 cards
• Auto click play, there is a split second where you can multi click play before it gets disabled
• Crazy things happen

is that right?

[lime mauve]

yes

you play your hand, the warning comes up, and then you begin to spam immediately

[somber smelt]

Oh you click - wait briefly - then spam?

[lime mauve]

crazy things happen way more if the hand you play with less than 5 cards happens to win the blind

[lime mauve]

i just spam click before the hand starts

i spam through the warning usually

[long crypt]

I autoclick the play button after I selected the <5 cards

[somber smelt]

So

• select 4 cards
• start spaming Play NOW
• warning pops up, mid spam
• warning goes away and the next hand is played?

Yeah okay that is what I am doing

How tf do you win the hand like that?

[long crypt]

Its so glitchy

[lime mauve]

you need to play some 5-card hands first usually

get close enough to the point cap, and then do the glitch

[long crypt]

true maybe thats it

[somber smelt]

But the glitched hand doesn't score at all, does it?

[long crypt]

it does and doesnt

its super glitchy

want me to try and record

[somber smelt]

That might help, I don't want to put you out though

I think I understand

I just want to be able to test the fix

[long crypt]

I tried recording, but obs does not like 4 tabs at once open

[dusty willow]

i might be able to test it

[somber smelt]

It would be annoying but also pretty funny if I was the only one unable to get the bug

[long crypt]

LOL imagine

that may be the case if you were on the wrong version

[somber smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/realization-eugene-levy-johnny-johnny-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20775597

[long crypt]

if you were on a patched version and we werent

[somber smelt]

... let me check something real quick

[long crypt]

NO WAY

[dusty willow]

the fool strikes again

[lime mauve]

He's been using a secret version this whole time

[long crypt]

"The Fool strikes again" make it your new catchphrase

[lime mauve]

But he also said he had the ame build number as us I thought?

[long crypt]

true... though I dont know what that is so

[somber smelt]

I'm not using the steam build to test, just my local code - I was 99% sure I added the patch to the steam build though it's even in the patch notes

But at this point I might believe it

[long crypt]

👀

[weak hawk]

i got the bug to work on the latest experimental patch

so

[long crypt]

nice

[weak hawk]

it was funny playing 4 aces, and getting high card twice

[long crypt]

yeah lol

[weak hawk]

no autoclicker either, just spam clicked on my trackpad

[long crypt]

I played a 3 of a kind and get 4 of a kind 4x, with only 1 card being counted

[weak hawk]

lmao

this bug is wack

[long crypt]

I think it has to do with what you played in your previous hand

[weak hawk]

ah makes sense, i did high card the hand before

[somber smelt]

The issue is that the Play button is still clickable after the boss starts yeeting the hand right?

[long crypt]

Yeah

I think...

[weak hawk]

seems so

[long crypt]

yeah because hook works then yes...

[somber smelt]

lmao I got it

[long crypt]

Wait

[weak hawk]

nice lmao

[somber smelt]

This is the demo steam build

[long crypt]

I hate my keyboard

Lol nice

[somber smelt]

I do not understand it though the build id identical

[long crypt]

idk

[dusty willow]

the bug is hiding from you

[long crypt]

Im so close yet so far away from skipping to ante 7 with the bug

its just I have to get to the same spot every time

[dusty willow]

NEW hidden boss in BALATRO?? (NOT CLICKBAIT)

[long crypt]

and change 1 thing

[long crypt]

LOL, batteries not included

[vital halo]

got it first try by getting to the psychic selecting 4 cards and putting autoclicker on 100ms on the play button

[long crypt]

KEKW

imagine a joker KEKW for discord

[somber smelt]

I'll push an update in a couple mins, 0.9.0p-DEMO

[long crypt]

no wait

I need to get to ante 7

[normal sun]

it won't update until you close the game

[long crypt]

oh ok

then you good

[normal sun]

unless an act of Gaben

smites your game

[long crypt]

D:

[somber smelt]

I'll be all up in Gabes DMs

[long crypt]

I suck at doing the same thing over and over

[dusty willow]

what an honor

[long crypt]

I keep forgetting to buy even steven

[analog lava]

you can also copy all the game files and have a backup of that version to play

[long crypt]

nahhhh

[somber smelt]

Alrighty new build pushed, should say 0.9.0p in the main menu

[high minnow]

only 10 more builds until 1.0.0 right

[somber smelt]

0.9.1a 🙂

[high minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-no-father-elf-will-farrell-gif-14042015

[somber smelt]

Devs see my versioning numbers and give me a hard time

[somber smelt]

It's dumb but I like it

[normal sun]

0.9.9z
0.9.10a :)

[high minnow]

dammit Jim I’m a doctor not a programmer

[high minnow]

No this is chaos

[long crypt]

lol

[somber smelt]

No no no

0.10.0a

[long crypt]

jim 👀

[normal sun]

a.aa.aaa

[high minnow]

Cool your jets it’s a Star Trek reference

Also I’m not a doctor

[long crypt]

ok I didnt get it

my fault

[normal sun]

we are officially leaving beta testing, and are preparing for the gamma testing

[jaunty star]

I firewall steam to keep old updates

[long crypt]

lol

[normal sun]

we're living in 2023 while void is living in 2013

[jaunty star]

😂

it also lets you keep removed games

if steam can't know it was removed

[long crypt]

true

my guy in the stone age

[jaunty star]

who cares about the messager or getting new things
I like my old things

[long crypt]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[jaunty star]

please elaborate

[long crypt]

I DID ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Im in ante 7

[somber smelt]

lol

[normal sun]

👀

what's there

[jaunty star]

new boss??

[long crypt]

LOLLL

[jaunty star]

blinds leading to verdant leaf? endless mode reached?

so many questions

[somber smelt]

Seems legit

[normal sun]

you can keep playing?

[jaunty star]

97/52 cards btw

[long crypt]

lets see

[jaunty star]

in the bottom

💀

[long crypt]

NO WAY

[jaunty star]

WHAT IS THAT

[normal sun]

O.O

your doom

[long crypt]

XDXDXDXDXD

[jaunty star]

went from local doing leaks to shadow doing them 😂

[weak hawk]

oh shit!

[sudden relic]

maybe you unlock endless if you reach ante 10 🤣

[jaunty star]

you could have the largest collection out of any demo player

[normal sun]

that'd be an insane flex

[jaunty star]

no one else has that blind

😂

[long crypt]

XD

[somber smelt]

You better win

[long crypt]

anyone wanna try it

[long crypt]

wanna see my jokers

[jaunty star]

"what's the seed to get to ante 7"

[normal sun]

can you even win

[jaunty star]

😂

[long crypt]

even steven and icecream carry

[jaunty star]

I don't even think 5oak 10s wins

[somber smelt]

I believe

Do it shadow

[jaunty star]

but you don't probably even have 5 10s

[normal sun]

maybe they secretly have a glass card build

[long crypt]

all my years of experience

[jaunty star]

please tell me you recorded this

[long crypt]

for this 1 moment

[weak hawk]

i can't recreate the bug in this version anymore! nice work

[jaunty star]

all your month 😂

[long crypt]

no, obs sucks for me

[jaunty star]

😭

[somber smelt]

Thank you for checking!

[long crypt]

week

[jaunty star]

week???

[weak hawk]

no problem

[jaunty star]

are you new

[normal sun]

they have the little "new member" icon

[long crypt]

yeah

anyways

[jaunty star]

not on mobile :(

[long crypt]

it has the mouth so I cant win

[somber smelt]

GG that was exciting

[long crypt]

it needs me to play 4 of a kind and I cant play one

[weak hawk]

i dont have my collection stickers though :(

[somber smelt]

Really???

[weak hawk]

the tooltip shows up but theres no sticker on it

[somber smelt]

What is your pixel art smoothing set at?

[long crypt]

no wait

[weak hawk]

had this issue last patch as well