💻・modding-dev

[manic rune]

a player out of nowhere will somehow crash with that

trust me

it always goes like that

[sonic cedar]

what does it skip /genq

[normal crest]

you lose a hand and play nothing

[foggy carbon]

not no benefit. Some jokers only give benefits on the final hand, so burning hands is useful to get to the final hand. Once you get into the scientific notation scores, 99% of the blinds will be won in one hand, so getting that extra Xmult or whatever is worth.

[scarlet spire]

true...

actually for the sake of this joker, would you consider 4oak to contain 2pair?

[foggy carbon]

the game doesn't

[normal crest]

No

[manic rune]

no

[sonic cedar]

lmfao

[normal crest]

What I'd do for that joker (i realize my previous idea was wrong) is base it off the example provided in the run info

and call get_poker_hand_info on it

[minor furnace]

can I define functions in my mod's main.lua or do I need to patch them into the game files?

[manic rune]

two pairs is two pairs of different cards, while 4 of a kind is 4 same cards so they arent really the same

[manic rune]

the former works

[minor furnace]

perfect

[scarlet spire]

anyways I'm still trying to figure out why exactly this crashes

[lucid owl]

maybe my most embarrassing dev moment happened earlier when i discovered that my joker i had been debugging for THREE DAYS was perfectly working, the only problem was that in the calculate declaration i wrote function(self, context, card) therefore making every reference of context confuse the game entirely and make the joker entirely unfunctional. all i had to do was change that line to function(self, card, context)

[manic rune]

i honestly cant even imagine having to patch all of those if i cant do that lol

[normal crest]

: not .

on juice_up

[scarlet spire]

ohhhh I am blind.

thank you for pointing it out

[lucid owl]

what do these do?

[manic rune]

i have no clue what they even mean, but that art is clean

[normal crest]

The left one summons a worm friend

[manic rune]

in fact, way too clean compared to the pixelated style of balatro 😭

[faint yacht]

I didn't reuse 1x, instead doing 2x separately...

[gusty sequoia]

Who doesn't want a worm friend! :D

[faint yacht]

Like Cryptid, Ninja Rope will increase card selection limit by 1...

[normal crest]

Worm friend will eat some percentage of the blind's requirements to help you out

[gusty sequoia]

Glory to worm friend!

I should make worm joker... it does nothing, alternatively you get a singular chip

Or maybe I could code it to give a random phrase of encouragement...

[manic rune]

...thats a ninja rope? 😭

[gusty sequoia]

I can see it

[normal crest]

Me too

But worm friend is funny so I'm sticking with it

[manic rune]

looks like a heated steel coil for me somehow

[foggy carbon]

there we go, now I have a tooltip for it, so people who download the mod without playing 999 or knowing the math concept, will still understand

[lucid owl]

i'm curious how people have even managed to implement increased card selection amounts

[gusty sequoia]

Same

[faint yacht]

Mess with G.hand.config.highlighted_limit.

[lucid owl]

makes sense

[manic rune]

i cant find the image but imagine the first image heated like the second image

[gusty sequoia]

Oh yeah I can see that too, that's interesting

[scarlet spire]

fully functional

actually it still isn't juicing up the stolen items but whatever

[manic rune]

wow, thats REALLY good for a common joker

[gusty sequoia]

:0

[manic rune]

that + oops, all 6s is gonna be absolutely wild lol

[normal crest]

from the code previously it's a fixed 50% lol

[manic rune]

oh

[normal crest]

guess it's wip tho

[gusty sequoia]

Tbh I make all my jokers common until after I get a chance to test them out

[scarlet spire]

it's just common because I keep copying jimbo for my base jokers, I'll probably make it rarer

also i forgot about oops

[gusty sequoia]

This is why my in testing 777 joker that retriggers each 7 7 times is common... I still don't know what rarity it should be tbh

[manic rune]

thats even stronger than a rare

so idk

[gusty sequoia]

I did the math though, with a five of kind of 7's it gets 40 triggers total

[gusty sequoia]

Yeah

[normal crest]

the math is 8 x 5

[gusty sequoia]

I might nerf it to 2... maybe 1 trigger for each 7?

Or I'll just keep it since I plan to keep the mod to myself either way

[gusty sequoia]

Indubitably!

On an unrelated note how would I make the thing for my mod that shows up under its cards to say it's from the mod be a different colour?

I am very sure I worded that weird

[vestal ore]

yay

[manic rune]

leet

[normal crest]

in your metadata you can add a "badge_colour" = "FFFFFF", entry

[gusty sequoia]

What is a Leet...?

[manic rune]

almost read that as feet ngl

[normal crest]

FFFFFF being pure white

[gusty sequoia]

Ooh

[vestal ore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

[gusty sequoia]

So just Hexadecimal :D

[gusty sequoia]

Well I know of Leetspeak I was just confused what the hand(?) would be

[gusty sequoia]

Interesting

[normal crest]

That's very specific

[gusty sequoia]

I like it

[manic rune]

thats a really odd hand type ngl, can be both fun and challenging to build a deck around it tho lol

[normal crest]

25% Aces, 50% 3s, 25% 7s

[gusty sequoia]

The glorious LEET build!!!!

And a reason to have 7s!!!

[vestal ore]

im considering moving it a bit higher in the order to make up for its specifics, should i?

[manic rune]

a gambling game with no 7s supports is kinda disappointing ngl

[normal crest]

I'd make it better than three of a kind

[manic rune]

i think it should be higher than full house, below four of a kind ngl

[normal crest]

Idk if better than straight

[gusty sequoia]

Agreed :(

[manic rune]

As and 7s dont have any good support jokers

[gusty sequoia]

That's why I wanna make a lotta stuff for 7s in my own personal mod

[normal crest]

that could be changed with the jokers the mod provides!

[manic rune]

true, true

[gusty sequoia]

I like 7, it's a good number

[manic rune]

mhm

777 is my fav number with 3 digits honestly

i mean, who doesnt love it

[vestal ore]

i dont have anything for aces and 7s
i probably should do something about that LOL

[gusty sequoia]

I also like 42, but there's no 42 of spades or anything to that effect :(

[normal crest]

hey now you have more ideas

[gusty sequoia]

I have my 777 joker and I plan to do 2ish more about 7s... afterwards I plan to work on Aces >:D

[manic rune]

what if theres a mod that allows you to increase your card's rank insanely high

[gusty sequoia]

That would be nice

[manic rune]

like, 1 gazillion of spades

❤️

[vestal ore]

oh boy! can't wait to draw a 5,092 of Rank #1,799,802!

[gusty sequoia]

The glorious Red Seal Mult Polychrome 42 of Spades

[faint yacht]

And the first shop in this random run gave the Scales. ⚖️

[vestal ore]

i imagine the suit is just a fucking cube

[gusty sequoia]

Is it really called Mult for the thing that you add to cards that gives +4(?) mult or am I going insane?

[vestal ore]

yea

[gusty sequoia]

Okay

It just feels odd to say

[vestal ore]

jimbo himself says it so

[gusty sequoia]

True, glory to Jimbo

[broken cliff]

The regime knows best

[plush cove]

cobrastan above all

[vestal ore]

yknow

nvm

[quasi dune]

What would be the correct way to put my custom stake between orange and gold? doing this still puts it at the end of the list, and doesn't even apply the other stakes

[manic rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300949683111333889/1340670491412660225/stupid.gif

[minor furnace]

I added this print to state_events.lua but it is not printing...

    local poker_hands = evaluate_poker_hand_wrapper(_cards)
    print(_cards)```

[normal crest]

And how did you "add it to state_events.lua"

[minor furnace]

with a patch

[normal crest]

What's your patch

Well, first of all, do you see it in the dump

[minor furnace]

yeah, I copied that from the dump

[normal crest]

Do you see your changes in the dump

[minor furnace]

yes

all of my patches applied

[minor furnace]

this was the patch

[[patches]]
[patches.pattern]
target = "functions/state_events.lua"
pattern = '''local poker_hands = evaluate_poker_hand(_cards)'''
position = "at"
payload = '''local poker_hands = evaluate_poker_hand_wrapper(_cards)
print(_cards)'''
match_indent = true
times = 1```

[foggy carbon]

"planet?" lol

[normal crest]

idk tbh

[grim remnant]

wuh oh, were file uploads disabled in the wake of. The Events Incident. was encountering smth we figured was best described via video

[normal crest]

I can still upload files

[grim remnant]

weird.

[limpid halo]

nope

[grim remnant]

basically, the for loop works, the problem is that. uh. it keeps *re-*calculating itself and more specifically, adding onto itself. our attempt at a sanity check was not that, it turns out. what're we doing wrong here? it doesn't seem to be an issue with the actual for loop, but the code inside it.

        --NOTE: this is bugged and because of how the addition works, if you keep hovering over it, it. Keeps adding. this breaks things fast. oops.
        --could MAYBE solve this with some form of sanity check of "if money > cardsCounted, what the fuck stop that"?????
        local money = 0
        if G.playing_cards then -- make sure the deck. Exists.
            for _, v in ipairs(G.playing_cards) do --basically, "for every playing card, do the following script:"
                card.ability.extra.cardsCounted = card.ability.extra.cardsCounted + 1
                if card.ability.extra.cardsCounted <= card.ability.extra.cap then card.ability.extra.money = card.ability.extra.cardsCounted else card.ability.extra.money = card.ability.extra.cap end
            end
        end```

oh, we just had to loudly acknowledge the problem and it fixed itself. go figure. ;P

[normal crest]

well the problem i see here is that your card is upgrading itself every time you hover over it

you shouldn't modify your card's values in loc_vars

[grim remnant]

where's the best place to move it? this is a temperance-like card, if that helps narrow it down.

[normal crest]

instead of modifying your card directly, use a local variable as a counter

[grim remnant]

...huh. looking at it we think we started trying to do that and just kinda. Forgot. because of the local money = 0 line. sounds abt right

[normal crest]

I didn't even see that but yes it looks like you had the right idea to begin with

as a tip, not every single variable has to be in your card's config

[foggy carbon]

just tried to hover over the video to see what your deck did lol

[normal crest]

you could remove cardsCounted and money

and only keep cap

[minor furnace]

I suppose debugging will be tommorow me's problem

the only thing I can think of is that somehow G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info simply isn't being called, but then if it isn't I have no clue where the UI is getting the display information for the highlighted hand

[normal crest]

Did you try playing a hand

[minor furnace]

yeah, and that didn't do it either

[normal crest]

do eval G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.hand.cards) in debug plus' console

while in a gaem

[minor furnace]

it printed high card, then I highlighted a pair, and it printed straight

[normal crest]

looks like your wrapper is messed up

Lol

[minor furnace]

I guess so

it's weird that it's printing the name of a hand when it should be printing the card information, unless I'm misunderstanding what G.hand.cards represents

OH

It's giving me the best hand I can play with all of the cards I curretnly have, not the ones I have selected

that still doesn't explain why that's what it's printing though...

It's not even coming from any print statement I've written myself

[grim remnant]

okay, we definitely removed those wrong, and it did crash in a silly way, but. question. can you put a for statement in a ease_dollars(yadda yadda) argument? because while it wouldn't fix the text on the card, that would very easily fix the actual functionality.

[gloomy rain]

Can't figure out my issue

It's crashing the game

[plush cove]

do you have the jokers.png file in your assets folder

with 1x and 2x versions

[minor furnace]

the only explanation I can think of is that I've somehow patched and/or called the wrong function, in which case I need to track down the correct place to insert my wrapper

[gloomy rain]

yea

omfg

I spelled assets wrong

"assest"

[minor furnace]

hmmm. I got a stack overflow trying to make a deep copy of the selected hand

perhaps the function I found for making the copy is faulty

[faint yacht]

Sounds like infinite recursion.

[minor furnace]

yup

probably a faulty function

I absolutely need it to be a deep copy though

[faint yacht]

Set a depth limit.

[grim remnant]

okay, we're almost there. we can get the numbers to stop incrementing every single time they're hovered over, but the function to actually give money is borked now. should we like, make a non-local money variable in config to store the payout, and then call that, or is there a simpler answer we're missing?

    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        --NOTE: this is bugged and because of how the addition works, if you keep hovering over it, it. Keeps adding. this breaks things fast. oops.
        --could MAYBE solve this with some form of sanity check of "if money > cardsCounted, what the fuck stop that"?????
        local cardsCounted = 0
        local money = 0
        if G.playing_cards then -- make sure the deck. Exists.
            for _, v in ipairs(G.playing_cards) do --basically, "for every playing card, do the following script:"
                cardsCounted = cardsCounted + 1
                if cardsCounted <= card.ability.extra.cap then money = cardsCounted else money = card.ability.extra.cap end
            end
        end
        return { vars = { money, card.ability.extra.cap , cardsCounted } }
    end,
    atlas = 'Tarot',
    pos = { x = 2, y = 1},
    cost = 3,
    can_use = function(self, card, area, copier) --when can we use this?
        return true -- Yea,
        end, --ok good c:
    use = function(self, card, area, copier)
        ease_dollars(money)
    end
}```

[rigid hare]

Would it be possible to have a blind apply multiple other blinds? Not like the usual blinds where they recursively apply eachother, but multiple seperate stakes.

Basicly, you have one stack of stakes, and another stack of stakes, would it be possible to make one stake add both? And maybe even more stacks?

[minor furnace]

the problem was I copied faulty code. Found one that actually works

[runic pecan]

 held in hand at end of round.
(Won't clean if your hand has only one rank.)```Please help me find better wording for the last line.

[plush cove]

If held hand
contains more than
1 rank, destroy
lowest ranked
card

[gloomy rain]

what's the context name for the end round money calculations

[plush cove]

calc_dollar_bonus im pretty sure

[gloomy rain]

so, what golden joker refers to

[plush cove]

nvm its just calc

calc_dollar_bonus(self, card)

[grim remnant]

having tried a non-local variable for the payout... didn't work. any idea what we're missing here? everything here except the actual "give money" part seems to be working just fine. (image embeds smaller so may as well use that)

[runic pecan]

Does any words in the third line need to be {C:attention}-ed?

I'm leaning to highlight the "more than one" part.

[sturdy compass]

I think that'd work well

Also, anyone in chat rn familiar with modding with Talisman? I'm running into some issue that I'm very confused with

[runic pecan]

Numbers got turn-tabled again?

[sturdy compass]

Not exactly. Lemme reply to it rq

here we are

[gloomy rain]

"calc_dollar_bonus(self, card)"

How do I set up the values afterwards here

[runic pecan]

You return the number of the bonus in dollar

[gloomy rain]

example? I am extremely new to lua so I might need an example

[runic pecan]

    [doing your calculations (or not)]
    return the_number_of_dollars_you_want_players_earn_at_end_of_round
end```

[gloomy rain]

oh

ok

thank you

[rose dragon]

omg hi ancient joker your my 22nd favourite joker in the game

[gloomy rain]

Why thank you good sir

[maiden phoenix]

What if Ancient Joker had Whatsapp

[gloomy rain]

death

[sturdy compass]

If Baron had whatsapp

[gloomy rain]

How does Canio's effect look in the code? I am trying to do that but with money instead of mult

[faint yacht]

Reacts to context.remove_playing_cards, with context.removed containing destroyed cards.

[solar eagle]

more than one rank

not ranks

[gloomy rain]

context.remove_playing_cards(face)?

I want it to give you money at the end of the round based on the # of face cards destroyed

[solar eagle]

you'd check for context.remove_playing_cards

then in that context, see if the cards are face cards

[gloomy rain]

So this?

[solar eagle]

no

thats not how contexts work

if context.selling_card and context.card.ability.name == "Egg" then

here's an example, this joker reacts to when you are selling a card

and if its the egg

if context.remove_playing_cards
and then context.card should be the card being removed/destroyed? i admit my knowledge here is slim

you would check if context.card is a face card though i do not remember how to do so because its 2 and i need to go to bed

[frosty dock]

Note: you should be checking keys instead of names: context.card.config.center.key == 'j_egg'

[solar eagle]

oh trueee

i just did it the same way card.lua does

[plush cove]

i was thinking about this but i didnt know how exactly it would work, but I'll definitely note this example if I ever need to check a specific jonkler

[solar eagle]

i was rushing

[frosty dock]

yeah smods code likes to stay as far away from names as possible

[plush cove]

localization right?

[frosty dock]

take note of j_ring_master, j_caino and j_gluttenous_joker while you're at it

[maiden phoenix]

If mods use the same name for their objects it can be troublesome

[frosty dock]

that's something else. Basically internal names need not be unique

[plush cove]

...

thank you for that wake up call

[gloomy rain]

what's the confusion with gluttenous jokers code name?

[frosty dock]

this has the funny behavior that you can set a joker's name to that of a vanilla and it will behave like that joker wherever you don't define different behavior

[gloomy rain]

I knew about ring master and canios

[solar eagle]

i greatly dislike that its spelled "caino" not "canio" in the source

[plush cove]

gluttenous not gluttonous

celiac joker doesn't like it

[gloomy rain]

ahh

[frosty dock]

Lmao

[gloomy rain]

how would I make an internal counter on the card, similar to satellites counter

[rose dragon]

use card.ability.extra?

[plush cove]

i dont think its a common thing to have joker values be passed on to other jokers but i wanted to share the code I used for it

[foggy carbon]

trying to remember, are there any vanilla jokers that deal with played but unscored cards?

[plush cove]

i dont think so

[gloomy rain]

Square joker

[plush cove]

oh I forgor about that

[gloomy rain]

I've been trying to figure out what to write to check if the destroyed card was a face card and I'm getting rly confused

[normal crest]

Anyone know how to make this text not go off screen? It shouldn't pop up on top of the card like that

tis on a custom collection tab

[plush cove]

i dont think theres a way around it unfortunately. but i dont really care since it looks fine when it's in the actual game so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal crest]

D:

There's gotta be

[plush cove]

if there is one I would also like to know because i have that same issue as well

[normal crest]

In the jokers collection all the jokers on the top row show their text below them

So I would want this to do the same

@frosty dock would you happen to know

[rose dragon]

i dont see it?

[normal crest]

The top of the screenshot is the top of the screen

The name goes off screen

[primal robin]

Oh god this stake on paper clip looks really cool!

[normal crest]

all credit goes to PaperMoon

[rancid charm]

just finished art for another custo joker

and the other one i posted earlier

[sturdy compass]

Go off dude

these are great

Do you have any function in mind?

[rancid charm]

thanks!

yeah the top one of underdog

and its affect is gonna be that it gains +3 mult for every hand played that is not your most leveled poker hand

and the second one is courier joker

[gloomy rain]

peak art

[rancid charm]

and played 6s give 38 chips when scored and selling it will make a negative version of it much more likely to appear in the shop

[sturdy compass]

Is that a reference of some sort?

[rancid charm]

or somethin like that

yeah fallout new vegas

[sturdy compass]

Ah I see

[rancid charm]

thanks!

[frosty dock]

there is, with lovely patching. I think the top/bottom positioning is just based on the on-screen position of the card

it's just not far enough up to be switched

[normal crest]

if you could point me to where the positioning is calculated that'd be great

if not i'll look for it tomorrow

[random sleet]

wake

[frosty dock]

can't search for it rn

[normal crest]

that's okay

[rose dragon]

i will be pull requesting the util functions bug

[plush cove]

its not like this in actual gameplay ffs

its just in the collection

[random sleet]

crop job so bad it killed godzilla

[rose dragon]

whar? i was just giving a kind reminder that there will be a bug in your repo and you will never know when it will come

[random sleet]

my mod has long enough tooltips that stuff goes offscreen all the time

[plush cove]

thats not cropped

[random sleet]

yes it is

by the screen height

hee hee
hoo hoo

[plush cove]

yea

[rose dragon]

this is something that i would expect wee joker to say

[wintry solar]

Are those code and idea badges toggleable?

[plush cove]

Currently no, but that is something planned

[random sleet]

balatro story mode

[plush cove]

At the moment I'm focusing on getting as many Joker ideas as possible into Mistigris

[random sleet]

pog how many are you at

[wintry solar]

You’d save so much vertical space without them 🤣

[plush cove]

20 implemented, 31 total ideas

[rose dragon]

by telltale games

[normal crest]

okay thanks for letting me know this, I just made the collection taller...

Lol

A tiny bit taller

like 10%

[rose dragon]

31 ideas left or 31 ideas in total?

[plush cove]

31 ideas in total

[random sleet]

nice im almost done with my third page of jokers iirc

[plush cove]

i am proud of these ideas though

[random sleet]

eepy

[rose dragon]

awake joker automatically becomes sleepy after defeating 3 bosses
-# idea

[plush cove]

no awake joker has insomnia, it cant get back to sleep

[rose dragon]

awake joker dies after 5 bosses

[plush cove]

unironically though I don't like the idea of limiting Awake Joker

because then it's like, you build up Sleepy for 10 rounds, get a good amount of mult, sell it, and then you only get to use it for like 3 antes?

[rose dragon]

awake joker has crippling caffeine addiction (lore)

[plush cove]

canon

[wise crown]

Woke joker

Woker

Awaker

[plush cove]

pronoun joker

[desert ore]

where does the game set the G.GAME.current_round stuff? or at least anybody know a mod that cycles a global thing like castle or rebate? I have like 6 mods downloaded and none of them have a cycling joker lol

[opal spade]

+4 mult for every pronoun in descriptions of all owned jokers

[desert ore]

oop nvm farmer from extra credit does

[crisp coral]

+4 mult for every pronoun consumed by this joker

[foggy carbon]

How do I look through a player's entire deck? I want to make a joker that, if the player doesn't have a specific card at the start of a blind, adds it back to their deck.

[normal crest]

Full deck is in G.playing_cards

[manic rune]

how did you add the subtitles?

[random sleet]

thanks bup

[fickle quail]

Can you lovely patch a mod?

[random sleet]

yes

[fickle quail]

Same format & everything?

[random sleet]

https://github.com/AutumnMood924/AutumnMoodMechanics/blob/0eda77398d8afa3937474470813ac7671143c49a/lovely.toml#L756

[fickle quail]

Ahhhhh. Thank you!

[faint yacht]

So far...

[broken cliff]

Peak Work

[rancid charm]

another joker, this one is more visually graphic than illustrated

seal team five

[neat plover]

how would you check for the rank or suit of the right most card?

[hushed field]

iterate through the played hand, and grab the last one, then just check the way you'd normally check for rank and suit

[neat plover]

yes but the last one in a flush ( five cards ) isn't the same in a double pair (4 cards)

[hushed field]

#context.scoring_hand is always the exact size of the array. So if you check context.scoring_hand(#context.scoring_hand), you'll always get the last hand.

You don't even need to iterate, I realize, that's just habit on my part, I guess

[neat plover]

thanks for teaching me that #contect.scoring_hand is a thing

[hushed field]

It's not that specific one that's a thing! If you put a # in front of an array name, it'll return it's length

[neat plover]

no way

thats so cool

[zealous glen]

I think it could have the white border

[hushed field]

Hmm, the easiest way to have things in the collection screen that aren't tied to a game object specifically would probably to just create Dummy objects, right?

[rancid charm]

wdym?

also heres another finished joker art

[hushed field]

I'm working on Fantasy cards right now, which 'cast a spell' based on the three left most cards held in hand, and I'm not too keen on having their tooltip show every potential spell option every time, but rather just the spell that will be cast, and just have every spell visible in the collection

[neat plover]

wrong reply

here is the code

[hushed field]

Please do include line numbers when you post code, it's a lot easier if I don't have to count. But you just used the wrong brackets. () Is for passing variables to functions. [] Is for indexing

My bad for giving you the wrong brackets in my suggestion, btw

[neat plover]

like that?

[hushed field]

Ya

[neat plover]

perfect

small problem

it doesnt work

it just does nothing

[wintry solar]

You’re combining contexts

[neat plover]

wtf is that?

[hushed field]

Go over your code and try to reason when each statement is entered. When do you enter context.before, and when do you enter context.main?

[neat plover]

what?

[hushed field]

do you know what 'if context.before then' does?

[neat plover]

yyes i want to give the money before the cards are scored

[hushed field]

do you know what 'if context.joker_main' does?

[neat plover]

when the jokers are being used?

[hushed field]

what do you mean by that? Jokers are being used when their code is ran, after all

[neat plover]

ii don't understand what your questions mean

[hushed field]

I'm just trying to figure out what you mean when you say 'when the jokers are being used'

[neat plover]

after the hand is scored

[hushed field]

No, no, not when, what does it mean when you say a joker is being used? Do you mean if it gives out it's effect?

[neat plover]

yes

[prisma loom]

So I want to make a Joker that draws 2 Enhanced cards from your deck at the start of round. So far it does nothing, what could be the issue?

[hushed field]

Ah, okay!

[prisma loom]

context?

[opal spade]

i don't think context.selecting_blind has other_card

[prisma loom]

selecting?

[opal spade]

That's what your code has

[zealous glen]

Card Jokers have a white border

[prisma loom]

it says setting not selecting (should I change that?)

[opal spade]

I can't read but I don't think setting_blind has other_card either

[zealous glen]

I had some effects like this but I can’t access the code right now

Anyways your contexts don’t make sense to me

I intend to rework how I was doing it, but you need to iterate over the deck to find which cards you want to draw

[opal spade]

your current code does:

• on setting blind, if other_card (thing that doesn't exist) is enhanced, then have that card execute draw_from_deck_to_hand (function cards do not have) two times

[hushed field]

Jokers aren't 'used' in that way. The game has a bunch of times it calls each joker the player has with by using 'calculate_joker()'. You can see this happen by making a joker who's calculate function has no 'if context' statements, but just a function like this:
calculate = function(self, card, context)
return {mult = 1}
end

If you put that in your game, that joker will add 1 mult when you draw a hand, when you discard, when you use an item, when you reroll. So to stop that, Balatro uses context. They carry information, and part of that information is timing.

For example:
context.before will only be true before scoring.
context.individual will only be true when playing cards are scored
context.joker_main will only be true when each joker card is scored.
context.after will only be true after scoring.

Jokers have a variety of abilities, and only some are the ones you wanna put in joker_main. If a joker says '+4 mult', that goes in context.joker_main, because that happens when the joker triggers. If a joker says something like 'gains +2 mult if your hand contains a pair', you check if it's a pair in context.before, before the scoring. context.before and context.joker_main are never true at the same time, so your code, which checks first for before, and then for main, will never trigger because of that.

So, in the code you're writing, try and figure out why you're using context.before if you want to return something on context.joker_main. Is there something that needs to happen before scoring?

[opal spade]

well not two times but have 1 time that draws 2 cards but the point is that cards don't have the function with that name, it's a g func iirc

[prisma loom]

I thought that othercard:draw_from_deck_to_hand(card.ability.extra.draw) means draw "othercard" (which is enhanced card) from your deck

[zealous glen]

I think that’s what Blinds do

At least SMODS ones

[zealous glen]

How are you finding the card to draw

[hushed field]

Oooh, good point. I hadn't even considered looking at blinds, for some reason. Thanks for the tip

[opal spade]

draw_from_deck_to_hand is a global function that draws (argument) cards from the deck

[prisma loom]

I used context.other_card and context.other_card.ability.set == "Enhanced"

[neat plover]

yes give 3$ before scoring if rightmost card is less than 4

[prisma loom]

What should I use then? SMODS wiki doesnt have that info iirc

[zealous glen]

So I don’t know if that ever iterates over the deck

[hushed field]

if the $3 is given before scoring, then try to see why you'd use 'context.joker_main'

[zealous glen]

There’s an extra option for effects of cards in the deck, but Idk about effects of cards on cards in the deck

Either way you don’t need that

[neat plover]

because im dense and i dont think before copy pasting stuff

[zealous glen]

And I’d probably recommend against it for probabilistic reasons

[prisma loom]

why other card doesnt exist? I created a local othercard

[hushed field]

I mean, copy and pasting without thinking is something every programmer does 😛 But I'd keep in mind that if your joker isn't triggering in the future, it's good to try and figure out whether you're usign the proper contexts!

[prisma loom]

Is there any code I could reference?

[hushed field]

your local is defined as context.other_card. context.other_card doesn't exist

[neat plover]

thanks very very muc

[stiff locust]

anyone know why this take ownership wouldn't be working

SMODS.Joker:take_ownership("splash", {
    tsun_mine = true
})

[zealous glen]

Actually I found this but let me check something

[prisma loom]

is there a context for deck area?

like G.play or G.hand

I think yeah

[wintry solar]

If you want to draw extra cards you should probably just use the hand_drawn context and then draw extra cards

[zealous glen]

Yeah this works probabilistically @prisma loom

[zealous glen]

To avoid drawing cards in hand?

[prisma loom]

yeah, they are extra cards

[wintry solar]

Well if you draw them before that you won’t get extra cards

[zealous glen]

See the code I referenced

[wintry solar]

As the games draw function just fills your hand

[prisma loom]

makes sense

[zealous glen]

I know my code worked with respect to context timing, but I don’t remember if I fudged the event timing

[hushed field]

With SMODS not being big enough to have thousands of guides on google, it can be tricky to figure out, especially if you're still learning. If you're getting stuck and not sure what contexts actually contain or do, you can just play around with print statements, and the debug functions (https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility) to see what's going on. Not as flashy as making functioning jokers, but I found it really helped me understand the code a lot better

[zealous glen]

There are also example mods

Or just other mods

[wintry solar]

Look at big mods that are well made and easy to understand

[zealous glen]

I think the tricky part is new modders don’t know what mods do what

At least we know what mods to suggest for some effects

[stiff locust]

cryptid does everything

[hushed field]

And they're often not commented, or per se written to be understood by new people. Especially once they use lovely injects, or a lot of functions that call other functions

[zealous glen]

It doesn’t do balance

[stiff locust]

yeah

[zealous glen]

Also Cryptid is usually very confusing

[wintry solar]

I am against blanket copying effects and more for looking at mods to understand how they work

[stiff locust]

bump

[zealous glen]

What do you mean

[prisma loom]

There suprisingly little to none mods that have draw effects and those who do use those wierd patches or something (i dont understand how they work)

[hushed field]

Yeah, copying code over is often a good way to lose the ability to just understand your own code

[zealous glen]

Mine does but is unreleased

I’ll also probably update to use patches

To unify different draw methods

[prisma loom]

What it's called? I use modded balo wiki

sry

[zealous glen]

Mine does but is unreleased

[prisma loom]

typed too fast

[hushed field]

Hmm, I should check if I'm actually using the proper ways to draw cards, or if I'm going to break intended synergies with the way my code's working 🤔

[zealous glen]

I wanted to get an alpha release soon

[wintry solar]

Mods should be used as a reference to help understand how to use the stuff smods supplies, I see way too many people posting code that they don’t understand that they’ve just copied blindly from a different mod that isn’t necessary for what they’re doing

[zealous glen]

I have more than enough Jokers for it

[zealous glen]

That’s fair but I think it’s tangent to the conversation

[rancid charm]

I want to make a joker that ensures the last hand played the previous round is drawn first in the current round, is that possible without extensive modding of how the game handles deck order?

[zealous glen]

It’s mostly new programmers who don’t want to learn programming

[rancid charm]

or does the game even order the deck randomly each round instead of just pulling random cards from a pool

[zealous glen]

The hardest part is remembering the cards

The rest should be easy

[stiff locust]

remembering the cards sounds easy though

cant you just add a property to them like how c dagger adds sliced to cards and then remove it when they get drawn

search the deck for the property on blind select

[zealous glen]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tasks.png

[hushed field]

On a slightly related note, btw, I haven't looked into it much, but I have some joker concepts that do deck order manipulation. Is there already a safe way to do that in SMODS, or is that going to involve me writing some injects or hooks to do?

[zealous glen]

That’s probably the approach I’d take. I think it should work separately from any Joker or other kind of effect. I think that’s the main caveat

[hushed field]

I should probably look into whether the game shuffles at any arbitrary moments, too

[zealous glen]

I had done it by hooking the shuffle function

[wintry solar]

I think you can just reorder the table freely

But there might be mods that shuffle the deck at certain points

[zealous glen]

I hooked the shuffle function to guarantee you draw enhancements for a Joker effect

[stiff locust]

sdm0's stuff dev branch has a card that lets you see the top 3 cards on the deck that might help with something idk

[zealous glen]

Card that lets you see the top 3 cards of the deck number 1000

[hushed field]

Haha, I do have that joker too!

[zealous glen]

Idk why “top 3” specifically is so popular

[stiff locust]

yugioh

[zealous glen]

How so

[hushed field]

I went for 3 because that way I can make the Back to the future part 2 joker show you 4, and the part 3 joker show you five

[stiff locust]

dark magical circle

[zealous glen]

It’s not like YGO has scry effects

Not many I mean

[zealous glen]

Me making a Joker that shows the whole deck

[hushed field]

Such limited regular card draw and so many shuffle effects in ygo that scrying's not too useful. You just look at your entire deck every time you're searching for a monster anyway 😛

[zealous glen]

One reason I’m not sure about that one is because someone else did it better

[zealous glen]

Exactly why do the top 3 even matter

Are you playing against SPYRALS

[hushed field]

Haha, I did consider that for back to the future 3, as a legendary joker that has a bunch of hoops to jump through to get it, but it'd be a ui nightmare that i'd have to solve

[stiff locust]

it's nice for mill decks

[crisp coral]

aren't you usually forced to shuffle after deck searching

[zealous glen]

That’s the part they did better

[prisma loom]

what is this?

is that a number?

[hushed field]

Yeah, I can imagine. It's the hardest part of that joker concept, after all

[zealous glen]

It’s in the same code

[zealous glen]

It’s not too complicated—well, I haven’t programmed this kind of UI, I’m talking conceptually—, just a new tab with a CardArea for the deck in order. But I don’t think I can come up with a better, original alternative to that and I didn’t want to copy the implementation

[hushed field]

I have a potential voucher that I'm considering that would turn my new consumable item into a cache, so that no matter how many you have, they'd only take up one consumable slot, which the logic wouldn't be too difficult for, but if I want it to look nice, I'd commit to more ui stuff than I'm actually interested in

[wintry solar]

That is the timing i suggested btw victin

[zealous glen]

And it’s a flavor effect so Idk what to do

[hushed field]

Haha, I think it's my days writing ruby code for pokemon rpg maker fangames that have traumatized me about the concept of making custom ui that's bug free, so I'm always a bit too wary

[zealous glen]

I see. I haven’t looked into these effects in a while, but I want to eventually patch things so all of them work consistently. But I’m not sure how many I’ll have

I had planned more

But I’m not sure since I cut down a few

[zealous glen]

There’s a mod that does that at least

[hushed field]

I'll look into it at some point. I've been considering some custom UI for my boss blinds, but I've set everything up so that I can make mostly everything in this mod function without having to touch ui stuff, so that ui stuff is only for polishing everything

[zealous glen]

I think also for consumeables it could just be a number on hover

It doesn’t need to be more complicated than that

[zealous glen]

What kind of custom Boss UI

[hushed field]

mostly some reskinning the blind info with some more thematic art. Nothing too big, but it's mostly that ui stuff is such a bummer to work on for me that I'd prefer to just do it in the end, as it doesn't need to be there for things to function and the player to get the right info. Only stuff I do need to implement is an indicator for boss blind's that target specific jokers or cards and warn the player, but that's just sticking a sprite to an object

[zealous glen]

I think adding art to the Blind UI should also just be sticking a sprite to an object

[hushed field]

Yeah, probably! It's mostly that I also want certain animated things and indicators and such. It's probably not hard, I just hate doing it, haha. The Voldemort boss blind I want to have an indicator for each random spell he's going to cast next hand, for example, and display that, and that's still something to figure out too. It's mostly the designing things and making sure it's floating on the right coordinates and such, when you don't get immediate visual feedback 😛

[zealous glen]

L Corp does some stuff with Blinds

[prisma loom]

@zealous glen Is there a get_enhancement function? So I could look for cards that have them

[zealous glen]

I had also made Blind tooltips

[merry raven]

I usually use if card.ability.set == "Enhanced" then

[zealous glen]

I did something similar for another effect that drew Enhancements though I don’t remember how. But you can check that the set isn’t “Default” but instead…

As they said

[merry raven]

You can even do the inverse by substituting == with ~=

[hushed field]

SMODS has a specific get enhancement function that checks for quantum enhancements, right?

[zealous glen]

when the Joker in the deck

[merry raven]

Ah

[zealous glen]

I think so

[wintry solar]

It does but I’m not sure it’s appropriate in this situation

[zealous glen]

@hushed field some minor Blind UI stuff

[random sleet]

oh hell yeah

victin when does your mod come out

i forgot

[zealous glen]

I’m gonna try to make an alpha release with 15-ish Jokers soon

I have more than 15 working but no art

[random sleet]

oh bet

[zealous glen]

Well not for a lot of them

I have placeholders but people need to hover to see

[random sleet]

i was just being a weird one

[prisma loom]

@zealous glen which part of the code is responsible for the number of cards drawn?

[hushed field]

Oh, that does look really nice. Fits in with the style real well

[zealous glen]

I’m thinking if I release as is or if I do more distinguishable placeholders

[random sleet]

i mean my mod has like 50% placeholders

[zealous glen]

Here, the fact you only draw once

[random sleet]

(does it count when one is named "Placeholder Joker"?)

[zealous glen]

Thank you!

[prisma loom]

Should I chnage +1 to +2 then?

[zealous glen]

What’s that mix one

[hushed field]

I've just opted for an art style that's honestly just as quick as making a placeholder

[zealous glen]

No

[prisma loom]

Im used to changing values via config

[crisp coral]

she fusion on my trans til i

[prisma loom]

So idk what to do here

[zealous glen]

To be fair for my first mod project I had only placeholder art made within a few seconds and people loved it

[zealous glen]

There’s no value to change because you only draw once

[stiff locust]

fusion???

[random sleet]

she fusion on my trans til i convert 40% of chips to mult at a X1.25 rate

[wintry solar]

Autumn you should totally not steal the ortalab artist credit boxes

[zealous glen]

Yeah

[random sleet]

thanks i havent

[zealous glen]

Steal mine

I like them more

[zealous glen]

them = mine ;P

[wintry solar]

Oh that message read badly I meant that you should actually steal them

[zealous glen]

What you want to do is to have a for loop over the number of cards to draw, and instead of selecting a random one, do a pseudoshuffle

[random sleet]

thanks i wont

[zealous glen]

No it read correctly

[hushed field]

Haha, well that's lucky 😛 Or you're just amazing at placeholder art. My placeholders were just flat info, but the joker style I opted for is real quick to do (because it looks janky), so I decided to just skip placeholder art

[zealous glen]

What do you think? Alpha with placeholder art that’s identical to one another?

[prisma loom]

oh right, ur code was drawing 3's only

[random sleet]

im not allowed to look to others for help thanks tho

[prisma loom]

if im not mistaken

[zealous glen]

It looked something like this #🎨・fan-art message

[hushed field]

haha that's charming as hell

[zealous glen]

My point is that it only drew one card

[young dew]

is it intentionnal that the seed 7LB2WVPK on erratic deck no longer works?

[zealous glen]

_< thanks

[young dew]

(no more cards in deck)

[zealous glen]

Although I think I lost the Dog and Hamster arts

[random sleet]

dog

[hushed field]

So, if people are up to help me brainstorm, for Fantasy card enhancements (and some jokers), I've gotten a list of 'spells' that cast when they're triggered based on the suits of your first 2 cards in hand, and the rank of the third one, but I'm struggling to come up with anything that works for Clubs and Spades. (Though I think I should potentially figure out a stronger theme for Spades than 'the random effect suit')

[zealous glen]

@wintry solar something keeping vanilla bugs

[zealous glen]

🤔

[zealous glen]

For my mod I’m planning for Spades to have xMult, Hearts Mult, Clubs Chips, and Diamonds money

[crisp coral]

curious why you switched the benefits of the first the suits

[hushed field]

That definitely works for the identity of each suit, but I found them hard to combine in that case

[zealous glen]

I think it’s more flavorful

Also first three

Not first two

[random sleet]

first the suits

and then the suits

[zealous glen]

Arrowhead gives Chips, Bloodstone xMult, Clubstone Mult

[hushed field]

I was considering having spades mess with meta resources like discards, hands and consumables, generally, but those are a bit too powerful to give freely

[zealous glen]

The Enhancement themes for them were Steel Spades, Glass Hearts, Lucky Clubs, and Gold Diamonds

I was almost settled on Seal themes

[hushed field]

seal theme six

[random sleet]

i have 22 "finished" jokers, 16 implemented with no art, 5 with art but no effect, 2 with art but not even ingame

[wintry solar]

Hmm?

[hushed field]

hmm maybe spades/clubs should upgrade the other scoring cards with a chip bonus 🤔

[zealous glen]

See the question I replied to

[random sleet]

why not an xmult bonus

[wintry solar]

It doesn’t say anything

[zealous glen]

From what they said, there’s an Erratic deck seed where the deck is empty

[prisma loom]

I read what for loop is in lua and I still dont understand wtf should I do
what is _cards? what is #_cards? why it uses square parenthesis? by how much I increment? what am I even incrementing?

[wintry solar]

I see

[zealous glen]

I created _cards to track the possible drawable cards

[hushed field]

because i want the club suit to relate to chips. I might make the heart/spade one give an xmult bonus, in that case, but that's a bit harder to properly balance I think

[random sleet]

-# the vanilla game does not have xmult bonus

[zealous glen]

Also what’s this 👀

[hushed field]

that's why it's a mod 😛

[random sleet]

no i mean like its not there at all

you have to do the heavy lifting

[hushed field]

already done

[zealous glen]

Unless I do the heavy lifting and add to SMODS

[random sleet]

i mean

[zealous glen]

(Seriously I was working with someone else but I haven’t put in my side of the work to finish the PR)

[random sleet]

AMM is right there

please steal my code

[zealous glen]

My side of the PR is for Jokers

[prisma loom]

How could I know that? Is there a guide on SMODS wiki? (Im just genuinely curious how someone is supposed to figure it all out. Like where do you learn this stuff?)

[zealous glen]

The playing cards are done

[random sleet]

yeah cuz you're a weirdo

/pos

[zealous glen]

As I said, I created _cards so no. But for the rest, look up a Lua tutorial

Those are all syntax questions

Well

The latter are semantical questions

[wintry solar]

Victin holding up smods beta release 🙃

[hushed field]

I was gonna grab a screenshot, because my heavy lifting is stealing your code, haha

[zealous glen]

But they are due to some particular syntax

[random sleet]

lmao

i mean it'd ideally be nice if people actually used AMM as a dependency

because then cross compat is better

but IDEALLY it's just in SMODS anywya

but i cant do that so :)

[zealous glen]

Also some card UI @hushed field

[random sleet]

offering tombstone combob

[zealous glen]

I did mention it

I just didn’t explain myself ;P

[random sleet]

yeh i just hadnt seen the joker itself yet :)

[crisp coral]

i can't really add dependencies because people may be stupid and dont know how to install the right shit

[hushed field]

I might switch it over to that set up, honestly. I used AMM to look into how lovely injections functioned, so I thinkt he one in my current main branch is your credited code, but I think the one on my dev branch is a wacky refactor of it to make it worse so I could learn and figure things out.

[zealous glen]

Also those cards are permanent

[zealous glen]

Also Myst is the Blind genius

Not blind genius, Blind genius

[merry raven]

Myst my goat

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-evil-bosses-shrek-lord-farquaad-some-of-you-may-die-gif-16648565

[crisp coral]

who knows whether im actually blind

[zealous glen]

Myst was all along

I’d Crimson Mist but I don’t have an emoji of it
-# it was Crimson right

[crisp coral]

yes

[hushed field]

Haha, I'll check out Myst's stuff at some point then. Boss blinds are for when I've finally added all 8 enhancements and have 150 functional jokers, though, haha. Can't get distracted

[crisp coral]

but that ain't a self insert

[random sleet]

myst you should do a self insert blind so i can have my self insert joker beat you up

8 enhancements eh? i'm halfway there myself :3 enhancements are funny

[zealous glen]

Did you see the fanart of Water pregante

[crisp coral]

if i make a self insert blind none of you are going to survive

[zealous glen]

Self-insert Victin particle effect when

[hushed field]

I've somehow decided that I wanted an enhancement type for each big movie genre, so there's something for jokers of that genre to interact with

[merry raven]

8 enhancements? Pathetic

[zealous glen]

Mysty Sue much

[zealous glen]

Enhancement? Pathetic

Where’s the Disenhancements

[crisp coral]

SMODS Objects? Pathetic

[fast badge]

yall reek

[merry raven]

Right here

[zealous glen]

How can you tell? Are you breathing manually?

[hushed field]

Though the nightmare code that is the Fantasy enhancement rn might as well've been 30 enhancements in itself, and I'll probably split it up into a sort of module that the fantasy card uses so I can keep reading my code without losing sanity

[fast badge]

my heart is beating manually

[merry raven]

But honest to god tho I'm really happy on how they turned out

[fast badge]

Looking good

[zealous glen]

Oh I don’t think I shared the Confused cards here

[manic rune]

if you are reading this, you are now blinking manually

[fast badge]

didnt work

[manic rune]

damn.

[zealous glen]

If you’re reading this, you lost the game and I won it

[merry raven]

If you are reading this, you have the habit of blinking hard

[random sleet]

if you are reading this [[LET ME OUT LET ME OUT LET ME OUT LET ME OUT LET ME OUT]]

[hushed field]

ooh, some of those look real sick

[fast badge]

If you're reading this, the snail is outside your door.

[zealous glen]

Confused Disenhancement

[merry raven]

Some I get carried away with

[crisp coral]

I will pray for you, so that you shall surely break.

[manic rune]

wallahi im cooked 😭

[zealous glen]

May I offer you a [[great deal]], [[little sponge]]

[merry raven]

Damn you read my mind Victin

[zealous glen]

Also here’s a way to get all these Enhancements

[edgy mountain]

this hook works but the cards played are all flipped down

i dont really know what to use flip_card on

G.hand_highlighted doesnt work as expected

[crisp coral]

fun fact igo stands for init_game_object

[zealous glen]

isn’t that Frankenstein’s monster’s Frankenstein’s assistant

[fast badge]

Yep

[random sleet]

it is so interesting to me to see people not realize you can just change variable names to whatever you want

[fast badge]

btw calc is short for calculator

[crisp coral]

cool, did not need to ping me

[fast badge]

its not that deep

[merry raven]

This Joker is going to be the end ofm e

[stiff locust]

bump

i really need this to work

[frosty dock]

how are you using it to have determined that it doesn't work?

[stiff locust]

splash does not show up in my mod's collection page nor with my mod's badge

[edgy mountain]

i do know that 🙂

[stiff locust]

it used to do that, but after I split my mod into multiple lua files today, it stopped working and splash no longer is owned by my mod

this code is in the main file (the others load properly anyway)

i do actually need this for functionality now and not just for show

[frosty dock]

and you didn't accidentally disable the badges?

[stiff locust]

nope

wait you can do that?

yeah no it's not in the tsunami collection page at all

even if it didnt have a badge it'd still be there right

[fast badge]

aure's now called john? interesting

[frosty dock]

it's more that I'm the john of smods

I'm still aure

[stiff locust]

john "aure" smods

[frosty dock]

yeah. I think the code just isn't being run then

[fast badge]

john aure smods the second

[stiff locust]

but that's not possible

it's in the main file

not inside any if statements or other code

it's at the top and the code below it runs

and it doesn't crash it just gets ignored

[frosty dock]

huh

any logs?

[stiff locust]

logs of what

[fast badge]

https://tenor.com/view/send-the-logs-send-the-log-files-gif-7419926888397076395

[stiff locust]

i haven't had any crashes

[frosty dock]

no just logs

in your game logs

[stiff locust]

oh

i thought it only logged when it crashed?

[frosty dock]

Mods/lovely/log

[stiff locust]

oh there is a newest log

huh okay

[fast badge]

lovely mods log

[stiff locust]

well then here

i'm not really sure how this will help..? but do your magic

all I did here was boot up the game and go to my collection

and then close it

[random sleet]

chat rate my placeholder oddity art

[runic pecan]

How do I make this compatible with modded suits?

[red osprey]

Use SMODS.change_base instead

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Utility

[merry raven]

Ooh boy that reminds me, my mod is painfully vanilla

[runic pecan]

Like this?

[red osprey]

Yep

assert means it will check that the change did something

[stiff locust]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-burn-tbh-fire-gif-1464924163788048068

[runic pecan]

My main question was whether rank_shift_string is correct or not.

[red osprey]

What's your goal?

[runic pecan]

chanced strength (except that Ace-/->2)

[red osprey]

Then that should work

It doesn't handle custom ranks but I'm not sure how to deal with that

[runic pecan]

My solution is just to not touch them.

[hushed field]

Testing some code that had a 1/4 chance, and I thought I'd written it to be broken, but no, my luck was just very good and I had 16 triggers in a row

[crisp coral]

lmao??

[shadow rapids]

Hi guys! I'm quite new to Balatro, and infantile to balatro modding (though I have modded other games [eg Minecraft] in the past). Where would you recommend I start?

[hushed field]

I was so convinced that I'd done something wrong. But no, four separate hands without reloading, all triggering every card

[red flower]

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Your-First-Mod

[hushed field]

the Steamodded github has documentation, and maybe more importantly, example mods to look at

[shadow rapids]

yipper!!!

[manic rune]

shouldve went and win the jackpot ngl 😭

[hushed field]

damn

[minor magnet]

anyone has any clue why this happens?

this happens when i try to open cryptid refactor

[shadow rapids]

hm. where are the example mods

[stiff locust]

https://www.balaui.dev

oh wait i got the link wrong

did that

there we go

[shadow rapids]

the page doesnt work

nvm dark mode extension doesntr work

so is it possible to spawn a joker in the command line

sorry again im very new to modding

[bold gyro]

https://github.com/Steamodded/examples

[frosty dock]

#1228149931257237664

[bold gyro]

Hey y'all, I'm trying to implement a joker that basically takes the ceiling of the current chips and mult during scoring. I'm working with Talisman, and I'm really confused on how to_big is supposed to be implemented. I get an error saying a table is being used inside the math.ceil() bit. How do I fix this?

calculate = function(self, card, context)
    if context.joker_main then
      mult_mod = to_big(math.ceil(to_big(mult) / to_big(10)) * to_big(10))
      chips_mod = to_big(math.ceil(to_big(hand_chips) / to_big(100)) * to_big(100)) 
      return {
        chips_mod = card.ability.extra.chips,
        mult_mod = card.ability.extra.mult,
        message = "Gullible!"
      }
   end
end```

[minor furnace]

so, if Card:get_id() returns self.base.id

    if self.ability.effect == 'Stone Card' and not self.vampired then
        return -math.random(100, 1000000)
    end
    return self.base.id
end```

Then why am I getting two different values for these two prints???
```print(hand[j]:get_id())
print(hand[j].base.id)```

Possibly related to the fact that I'm doing this earlier
```for i=2, 14, 1 do
        hand[current_card].base.id = i```

get_id() is returning this negative number while card.base.id is giving the value I want, even though that's the value the function is supposed to be returning

[wintry solar]

is it a stone card?

or rather, a has_no_rank card

[minor furnace]

ah

yeah it is. Not a stone card but it is my own custom enhancement with no rank

[grim remnant]

sorry to nag, but still trying to figure this one out, if anyone has any pointers :o

[minor furnace]

Not checking the dump file strikes again 💀

one of these days I will learn

[manic rune]

....can i carry this to info_queue somehow

[wintry solar]

card.ability.extra.payout is always 0

[manic rune]

starting to realize that if i were to add more complex effects for my jokers, this is gonna flood the entire screen 😭

[minor furnace]

I was using replace_base_card and no_rank, but I think I just need the base card one

[red flower]

what if you make them a separate screen with a button to open them

[manic rune]

i also initially thought of that actually, but can you change this part of a joker through code?

(holy shit that circle is diabolical, its basically the text part of loc_txt)

if its possible, i want to add a button for the jokers to cycle the description between the effects, eidolons, and set effects

that should make it look much better

[minor furnace]

that fixed it! Now onto the next issue 🫡

[sonic cedar]

unrelated but is there a way to pin stuff in #1209506514763522108 ? so i can have my most important information readily accessible

[manic rune]

you can do that with vencord

it has client-side pinning, i think

[minor furnace]

hold on, this is accurately registering as a pair! The function might actually be working properly
No such luck

[red flower]

you need to use generate_ui for that but it's not going to be very simple

[manic rune]

...honestly, its gonna help on the long run so im willing to go through the torture 😭

lets see, im supposed to find the part where the game generates the joker's description and somehow work with that, right?

[red flower]

smods.joker has a generate_ui function you can use

[manic rune]

oh i see, thats convenient

[minor furnace]

ok there's something slightly wrong with my recursive function but that should be fixable

[red flower]

i don't think it's documented? I found it while looking at the code

[weak brook]

it is

it's on the SMODS.Center page in the smods wiki since SMODS.Joker is derives from that

[red flower]

there's an SMODS.Center page?

[weak brook]

oh wait

no im mistaken

on both counts

[manic rune]

if thats the case, then jokers should be using this right? (its inside SMODS.Center)

[weak brook]

some jokers use it but its not used often cause its ui stuff, which is more advanced to a lot of modders

[manic rune]

i can see why

[red flower]

yes, you're basically hooking into it so it replaces it
you need to call the original in your code

[manic rune]

hmm, i will try, thanks for telling me where to start ❤️

[red flower]

found it

https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/wiki/Localization#generate_ui-advanced

[minor furnace]

recursion fixed!

[shadow rapids]

i have a joker idea that wants to modify a large game function

fml

(also soul/bh spawn rate is 0.3% iff you don't have Showman for some reason)

common events 2273~2284

[minor furnace]

Ok so I know for a fact my wrapper function returns exactly what I want it to, ran it using eval in debug. But why isn't it executing in any place I patched my wrapper into? This is in state_events.lua btw

    local poker_hands = evaluate_poker_hand_wrapper(_cards)
    print("testing")```

[shadow rapids]

nevermind then i wanted to buff those two spectral's spawn rates but it literally doesn't let you redeem them a second time

[minor furnace]

and I have checked to make sure the patches took in the dump files

unless, I've missed some critical place that evaluate_poker_hand() gets called

[wintry solar]

where are you trying to patch it?

[red flower]

did you check smods

[minor furnace]

which file is this in?

[red flower]

smods\src\overrides.lua

[minor furnace]

I didn't, that's almost certainly it then

am I able to patch that file??

[red flower]

target = '=[SMODS _ "src/overrides.lua"]'

i think

[minor furnace]

Thanks! I’ve gotta go but I’ll check it out when I get the chance

Chances are that’s the last piece I’m missing

These are the kinds of things that if I didn’t ask, I literally would not know even existed

[stiff locust]

how would I remove specific ranks of cards from the starting deck like abandoned deck does with faces

abandoned deck uses starting parameters to toggle a pre-existing removal of face cards which I can't find the code for

[tepid crow]

You'll have to go a route similar to checked

[stiff locust]

alright then how do I remove a playing card directly from the deck

is card:remove() enough

[sturdy compass]

Is there anyone in chat rn who has good Talisman knowledge?

[zealous glen]

@mellow sable

[sturdy compass]

lmao

[mellow sable]

👋

[stiff locust]

that was quick

[sturdy compass]

Yeah seriously

[zealous glen]

Like seeing a Cryptid in the wild

[stiff locust]

math was already here

[mellow sable]

I was alr online lol

[zealous glen]

https://tenor.com/view/homestuck-lord-english-gif-18102483669141631516

[mellow sable]

[stiff locust]

while you're here is card:remove() enough to remove a playing card directly from the deck

do i need to do anything special like context.destroying_card

[zealous glen]

Hey while you’re here should I invest in Apple stock

[normal crest]

no

[zealous glen]

I heard Fuji was gonna be the fruit of the season

[normal crest]

Alsoo did you try it

[stiff locust]

invest in to the moon stocks

[mellow sable]

iirc no

[zealous glen]

I guess they hate Fuji

[mellow sable]

I remember card removal being annoying

Could be wrong tho

[stiff locust]

i already open and close balatro enough times on my own
my steam friends probably hate me

[sturdy compass]

anyways, I ask because I'm having a really confusing issue with developing alongside it rn. Getting this crash as a result of (I BELIEVE TO BE) this patch, but not entirely sure why

[normal crest]

go invisible

[mellow sable]

Like I think you also have to remove it from card area

[stiff locust]

oh that's annoying

[stiff locust]

no

[stiff locust]

oh thats easy

G.GAME.chips is a table with talisman

[normal crest]

calling remove already does that tho

you might just need to mark the card as destroyed too

[zealous glen]

go splashisible

[stiff locust]

add this in your code and then wrap G.GAME.chips in to_big()

to_big = to_big or function(num)
    return num
end

[mellow sable]

^^^

[stiff locust]

if talisman isn't loaded, to_big won't do anything so it won't crash with or without talisman

[stiff locust]

holy shit

wait is there a way I can check that without steam end of year analytics

[shadow rapids]

how do i make a joker that increases itself based on played cards work?

[mellow sable]

idk

[sturdy compass]

where exactly would I do that? This is an injection being made in the final score calculation in state_events.lua

Post-talisman patches might I add

[stiff locust]

you could put it in the lovely patch if you really want

[mellow sable]

to_big(G.GAME.chips) + to_big(whatever) maybe

[stiff locust]

but it should work just

in the top of your mod's lua file

because the code won't be run until score calculation, which is after your mod is loaded so

yeah that oughta do it

[sturdy compass]

So stick the block you gave somewhere in my main??

[stiff locust]

yeah

just pop it right in

[wintry swallow]

hello, anyone knows how to have stickers only apply to jokers? i have the "sets = { Joker = true }" thing but it looks like it doesn't matter cuz the sticker appears on consumables as well

[sturdy compass]

Hmm, still no. Same error

[stiff locust]

you did add to_big() around G.GAME.chips right

[sturdy compass]

I did not whoops

[stiff locust]

like to_big(G.GAME.chips)

yeah do that

[sturdy compass]

I'm just confused as to why Talisman doesn't make that patch in the first place

[stiff locust]

because to_big is the function it uses to convert numbers to tables for bignum/omeganum storage

it is not something talisman can fix in itself, they would have to find and patch in to_big() around EVERY instance of G.GAME.chips and G.GAME.dollars

something like that, anyway

if talisman added the dummy to_big function it would change nothing

[sturdy compass]

I knew that much. I just meant that the G.GAME.chips in that vanilla code block is untouched by the mod. That's where my confusion is coming in

[stiff locust]

all that code block does is make sure to_big exists, and if to_big doesn't exist, it does nothing
so that the code doesn't change without talisman

oh

no it should be working on the vanilla stuff

[sturdy compass]

Also same error after doing this

[stiff locust]

well that's all i got ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sturdy compass]

damn lol

[stiff locust]

i only know surface level talisman stuff

so back to @mellow sable

[sturdy compass]

If absolutely needed I can easily send over the files that are doing this. Won't do that unsolicited tho lol

[mellow sable]

What line of code do these errors refer to? StackTrace :: Oops! The game crashed
main.lua:1781: main.lua:1567: bad argument #1 to 'floor' (number expected, got boolean)

[sturdy compass]

That's a great question that I genuinely don't have an answer to

I would've checked my main.lua but it doesn't even have that many LOC

[stiff locust]

check in mods/lovely/dump

if you're doing lovely patches to vanilla code it's usually something there

dump contains the vanilla code post-patches from your last crash

[sturdy compass]

Ah right I did find that. It's coming from a G.FUNCS.evaluate_play() call

[shadow rapids]

im having a bit of trouble debugging my mod, can I have some help? It keeps crashing when the cards get scored. Does execute() need to always return a value?

Mod code:

SMODS.Joker{
    key = 'scribbled',
    loc_txt = {
        name = 'Scribbled Joker',
        text = {
            'Gains {C:chips}+#1# Chips{} for',
            'every scored {C:chips}Bonus Card{}',
            'and {C:mult}+#2# Mult{} for',
            'every scored {C:mult}Mult Card{}',
            '{C:inactive}(Currently {C:chips}+#3#{C:inactive}, {C:mult}+#4#{C:inactive})'
        }
    },
    rarity = 2,
    config = {
        extra = {
            chips = 0,
            mult = 0,
            dchips = 10,
            dmult = 1,
        }
    },
    loc_vars = function(self, info_queue, card)
        local stg = card.ability.extra
        return { vars = { stg.dchips, stg.dmult, stg.chips, stg.mult } }
    end,
    calculate = function(self, card, context)
        local stg = card.ability.extra
        if context.joker_main then
            return {
                chips = stg.chips,
                mult = stg.mult,
                card = context.other_card
            }
        end
        if context.cardarea == G.play then
            if SMODS.has_enhancement(context.other_card, 'm_bonus') then
                stg.chips = stg.chips + stg.dchips
                return {
                    message = 'Bonus!',
                    colour = G.C.CHIPS,
                    card = card
                }
            end
            if SMODS.has_enhancement(context.other_card, 'm_mult') then
                stg.mult = stg.mult + stg.dmult
                return {
                    message = 'Mult!',
                    colour = G.C.MULT,
                    card = card
                }
            end
        end
    end
}

sorry for text wall it wont let me send .luas

here's the output error log

[sturdy compass]

There's no context.other_card in context.joker_main

[shadow rapids]

oh

ok yeah that makes sense. thanlks

[stiff locust]

oh my god

local stg = card.ability.extra
        return { vars = { stg.dchips, stg.dmult, stg.chips, stg.mult } }

THIS HAS BEEN A THING THIS WHOLE TIME???

[shadow rapids]

yeah. just defining your own locals in a function

[stiff locust]

you mean i DON'T HAVE TO TYPE OUT CARD.ABILITY.EXTRA EVERY SINGLE TIME

[shadow rapids]

heebie geebies

[sturdy compass]

I feel like a moron for not thinking of that

holy shit

[shadow rapids]

what

[stiff locust]

i've

literally never seen that

[shadow rapids]

this is going on tumblr. i am putting this on tumblr

[sturdy compass]

[stiff locust]

do not put me on fucking tumblr

[dreamy thunder]

oh wait so this is a thing

[sturdy compass]

You've summoned the horde

with superior coding practices

[dreamy thunder]

no more "extra" typos

[shadow rapids]

THREE PEOPL

THREE., PEOPLE.

[stiff locust]

it's always ability for me

[dreamy thunder]

i keep typing exrta or ablitly 😭

[foggy carbon]

how do I get a card's base suit, not accounting for smeared/wild/etc.

[shadow rapids]

should just be able to access the suit anyway

[sturdy compass]

It's always 'ablity' or 'abiltiy' for me

[stiff locust]

one of my jokers

has 35 instances

[shadow rapids]

though why areyou doing that

[stiff locust]

of card.ability.extra.something

and i just typed or copy pasted it every time there's so much

why did nobody come up with this

[dreamy thunder]

my most has 15~

i think

[shadow rapids]

i cant even say anything

[stiff locust]

youve said enough

[dreamy thunder]

true

[stiff locust]

we will carve this as the 11th commandment

[hushed field]

tbf, most ide's just let you autofill the card.ability.extra after you've typed it once

[sturdy compass]

real

[shadow rapids]

also it still crashes, same listed reason

[stiff locust]

oh oh right your crash

hold on let me return the favor

[sturdy compass]

LMAOOOO

[stiff locust]

what is it supposed to do

[dreamy thunder]

autofill is annoying

[shadow rapids]

boost chips and mult of joker on bonus or mult card score respectively

[stiff locust]

so
when a bonus card scores, increase chips
when a mult card scores, increase mult

[shadow rapids]

yes

[stiff locust]

or is it the other way around

okay

[shadow rapids]

instead it crashes