which one between k and v would i put in the find_joker function
#💻・modding-dev
stiff locust
maiden phoenix
v
maiden phoenix
👍
stiff locust
a different issue has just occured to me
my joker says it gives +5 mult per unscored card played
and the message text it outputs correctly identifies how much mult it should give
but it actually gives 5 mult if there's at least 1 unscored card
i still don't understand how jokers giving mult works
maiden phoenix
I don't understand the issue
stiff locust
I don't understand the issue
ripple has the same issue
it says +5 mult per extra scoring cards but the code checks if there is at least 1 unscored card and outputs +5 mult if there is at least one
so the effect is actually +5 mult if there is at least one unscored card
maiden phoenix
It checks if there's at least one so it doesn't have to do all the calculation if there's none
maiden phoenix
If you have 3 extra cards it doesn't give 15?
stiff locust
nope
it says it gives +15 on the message it outputs, but it only gives +5
???
well yeah it looks like it works on the message dont it
maiden phoenix
Oh nvm you're right lol
stiff locust
easy to miss on high speeds
maiden phoenix
I pushed a fix
maiden phoenix
Yea a quick copy paste
stiff locust
what part of the ability triggers it to give mult
maiden phoenix
the returned mult_mod
stiff locust
okay
maiden phoenix
Some context return different values so be careful
Like it's not the same between context.individual and context.joker_main
You just need to check vanilla code to be sure
stiff locust
makes sense
stiff locust
the returned mult_mod
soo why didn't this work for me
the value that the message outputs is correct but the mult remains at +5 if at least one
wait i know why it is
it's because i'm still fucking testing with ripple
and not my joker
lmao
maiden phoenix
Mult_mod needs the var directly
maiden phoenix
No stop trying to send mult_mod a localized value lmao
stiff locust
oh
maiden phoenix
mult_mod, most of the time, should be equal to what's in your vars
stiff locust
what happens if it's not
maiden phoenix
maiden phoenix
what happens if it's not
Doesn't matter as long as it's a number
stiff locust
ok
maiden phoenix
Otherwise it will give you nothing (or crash maybe)
stiff locust
so what about xmult mod
is that just returning xmult_mod instead of mult_mod?
(same for chips would that just be chips_mod)
maiden phoenix
Not sure if it's case-sensitive but it's Xmult_mod too
stiff locust
so if i wanna increment my joker's value
maiden phoenix
You mean sell value?
maiden phoenix
Just look how Trousers do it
stiff locust
okay
okay so it is like that
makes sense
alright next step
how do I apply an effect (like a retrigger or permanent +chip increase) only to cards scored by splash
maiden phoenix
Idk if there's a way to differentiate scored card and scored card by splash effect
stiff locust
Idk if there's a way to differentiate scored card and scored card by splash effe...
there has to be
be it that I have to recalculate what hand should have played by checking the ranks and suits of each played card to find out which ones don't match the played hand
this is very important to a lot of my fusions
opal spade
be it that I have to recalculate what hand should have played by checking the ra...
vanilla calcs the poker hand info by doing this
local text,disp_text,poker_hands,scoring_hand,non_loc_disp_text = G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.play.cards)
then it inserts splash cards and stone cards into scoring_hand before doing any calcs
stiff locust
vanilla calcs the poker hand info by doing this
``local text,disp_text,poker_han...
is it possible to add a flag to the cards that are part of the poker hand before splash cards and stone cards are inserted
if so then when the joker effect goes through i'd just have to check if the card doesn't have that flag
opal spade
you can just rerun the G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.play.cards)
stiff locust
oh
that's convenient
i'm not really sure what that does though
what does it return (if anything)
opal spade
it returns 5 different values, the 4th being the scoring hand before splash/stone
stiff locust
ah
opal spade
vanilla calcs the poker hand info by doing this
``local text,disp_text,poker_han...
see here
its from the very top of G.FUNCS.evaluate_play = function(e) in functions/state_events.lua
stiff locust
but how does one value hold 5 cards
opal spade
the value is a table
stiff locust
okay that makes sense then
so that returns each card from the original hand
which then means I have to compare that to the table containing every card in the entire hand?
which would be scoring_hand
and if a card isn't shared between scoring hand and this other table then it's a splash scored card
but then how do I apply an effect to those cards
brisk rose
I'd guess some flavor of nested loops and if statements
opal spade
but then how do I apply an effect to those cards
you could turn it into a "when scored" effect and apply it if the card is not within the original scoring_hand
stiff locust
you could turn it into a "when scored" effect and apply it if the card is not wi...
well yeah the idea is that they are when scored effects
logically i know how this would go but i don't know how to put it into code
mostly when it comes to applying the effect to the cards in the table
opal spade
context.individual is for individual card interactions and it comes with context.other_card which is the card currently being scored
opal spade
``context.individual`` is for individual card interactions and it comes with ``c...
make sure its also context.cardarea == G.play
stiff locust
``context.individual`` is for individual card interactions and it comes with ``c...
so I'd check if context.other_card is in G.FUNCS.get_poker_hand_info(G.play.cards)
and if it's not, apply the effect?
opal spade
first you check if the context is individual and within G.play but then ye
stiff locust
you lost me on that
opal spade
if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
stiff locust
oh
opal spade
ye
stiff locust
alright
opal spade
then u check if context.other_card is a part of the 4th value returned by get_poker_hand_info
stiff locust
how do I get specifically the fourth value
opal spade
tbh no idea but you can probably just get all 5 the way vanilla does it
opal spade
vanilla calcs the poker hand info by doing this
``local text,disp_text,poker_han...
.
if you just copypaste that line then you'll have a non-splashed hand as scoring_hand
stiff locust
okay
glossy stone
stiff locust
got a crash attempt to index field 'ability' (a nil value) when trying this
what's that mean
well i guess i can figure out what it means but why is it showing up
my other jokers worked fine without requiring an ability value
limpid shadow
is steamodded debug console still working in latest alpha? I created a sample mod that just prints Hello World! in debug, but nothing is showing up
muted kite
is steamodded debug console still working in latest alpha? I created a sample mo...
You mean this one? #1228149931257237664
rough furnace
was the console running before launching the game?
tbh with lovely's console and DebugPlus, theres not much reason to use the steamodded debug console
opal spade
got a crash `attempt to index field 'ability' (a nil value)` when trying this
need to see more code to help with that
stiff locust
what
clyde
???
i'm posting a message here
strange
i don't know what happened there
let me try again
tepid crow
message might contain some words that are not allowed?
rough furnace
should use a different message then
stiff locust
if that happens it gets blocked by a different bot
brisk rose
you get a differnt error
stiff locust
this is the clyde message for when you DM someone who has it off
rough furnace
I've seen this when discord gets confused on your perms and thinks you can send a message but can't
but you can send a message
so idk
stiff locust
this oughta do it
crisp coral
discord is a fuck, try again
stiff locust
that's the joker in question
tepid crow
you get a differnt error
yeah I know, but that was the thing that made the most sense to me
stiff locust
i want the hiker effect to trigger a second time only on cards not scored by splash
rough furnace
you'll probably need a lovely patch
stiff locust
i already did a lovely patch to apply the splash effect
the hiker effect shouldn't require one(?)
rough furnace
in G.FUNCS.evaluate_play in state_events.lua you can save a copy of the original scoring hand somewhere your joker can access and use that
stiff locust
how/why would that solve the crash
stiff locust
yeah there's a crash
rough furnace
I can never remeber
stiff locust
👀 most OCs in server huh
uneven halo
Hey chat rq question i want to do a meme with the Jimbo text box, is there a tool for it?
Just this but as a gif
From the actual in game Jimbo text
uneven halo
https://tenor.com/view/balatro-joker-balatro-joker-jimbo-jimbo-the-joker-gif-153...
This, basically
This one works well enough as a reaction image but I NEED to clown on people for their agendas
rough furnace
uhh maybe
rough furnace
I think it expands
uneven halo
I saw BU use one for his own messages so I want to know if there's a quick edit tool or if I should just somehow change it in specific
uneven halo
👀 most OCs in server huh
Also yes, I'm the clownposter that's been spamming her silly little guy on #🃏・off-topic and recently on #🎨・fan-art
stiff locust
if you're gonna make a title you should check it first
uneven halo
if you're gonna make a title you should check it first
Nah, I have plenty, I just don't spam everyone in this server because I am both lazy + don't know when to bring them all up
stiff locust
uhuh
uneven halo
Anyways so so uhhh
If it's possible to alter the text box:
How exactly?
Language? Maybe a tool that just makes him say whatever you want?
I'm ready to make the alteration myself so long as I know where to even begin
All for the bit
rough furnace
idk I tried spawning him manually and getting him to speak but the box was empty
uneven halo
Thanks at least for the attempt haha, though I will make it myself as to not bother anyone else past "Hey how do I even do this" lol
rough furnace
oh it seems like at one point you coud pass raw strings to it but now it needs a localization key
zealous glen
Hey chat rq question i want to do a meme with the Jimbo text box, is there a too...
Kinda
I showcase how I did it here
uneven halo
I showcase how I did it here
Neat! Thanks
zealous glen
I referenced Bunco but Bunco uses in-game code just tweaked slightly
And I tweaked it a bit more to change box colors, etc.
zealous glen
I referenced Bunco but Bunco uses in-game code just tweaked slightly
The main change was just to move from the CardCharacter class to the Card class since they’re different
uneven halo
The main change was just to move from the `CardCharacter` class to the `Card` cl...
And this works for Jimbo's message screen, right?
zealous glen
I’m not sure what you mean. I haven’t tried to manipulate those
If you just want to change those messages, it might be possible to just change the localization tables
uneven halo
I’m not sure what you mean. I haven’t tried to manipulate those
Oh, that was my question from the start, I'm sorry it wasn't clear thanks to the whole meme part
zealous glen
I don’t know how different quips are selected, so I don’t know if you can extend or only replace
uneven halo
I don’t know how different quips are selected, so I don’t know if you can extend...
Replacing will work just fine enough, it's for a gif/PNG anyways, I just want the gif to be accurate
So long as I can get the funny joker saying the funny meme I will be good enough
zealous glen
Fish mod does a very simple localization replacement. That should probably be enough
uneven halo
uneven halo
Fish mod does a very simple localization replacement. That should probably be en...
Thanks! I'll check it out
zealous glen
Thanks! I'll check it out
opal spade
this oughta do it
what is this
this is the reason of the crash
you're trying to look up self.ability.name in a method where that returns nil
brisk rose
his ass hiked right over to the consumable area
opal spade
and to the top of calculate(self, card, context) too apparently 😭
stiff locust
how did i miss that shit
stiff locust
this is the reason of the crash
now would you believe me if i said removing that line
did not solve the crash
opal spade
how's the code looking rn
rough furnace
also what line number does the crash point to?
stiff locust
the same as above without that line and with everything in the if statement indented one less so it's in the right spot
stiff locust
also what line number does the crash point to?
141, which is...
context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus = context.other_card.ability.perma_bonus + self.ability.extra
opal spade
the code above has like an entire chunk that doesnt belong (the hiker thing is more than one line)
stiff locust
which would have to mean it's self.ability.extra
should that be card.ability.extra
is that why
stiff locust
the code above has like an entire chunk that doesnt belong (the hiker thing is m...
oh do i not need that part
the loc_vars im guessing
yeah those are an artifact
stiff locust
which would have to mean it's self.ability.extra
should that be card.ability.ex...
this worked
and holy shit this joker actually functions now
i wish I could make it display "upgrade!" more than once or display something else to signal this
right now it displays upgrade once on the extra cards
but still increments them twice (intended behaviour)
is there a way to do that
brisk rose
I'm pretty certain those messages are pretty configurable. I see mods doing all sorts of things with them
stiff locust
they are
i have attempted to change it to see what happens
okay yeah this second one isn't actually triggering
the upgrade! shows up as normal but raft! does not show up at all
brisk rose
I think you have to define the loc keys somewhere
opal spade
the upgrade! shows up as normal but raft! does not show up at all
because return cuts off the function
rough furnace
no its returning the object with the key in it
but chances are theres no locale key named "Raft!"
stiff locust
oh
opal spade
no its returning the object with the key in it
no the thing is the calc function cuts off itself
languid mirage
https://tenor.com/view/balatro-joker-balatro-joker-jimbo-jimbo-the-joker-gif-153...
for that gif I used a website to overlay PNG on top of a gif
gif I made by recording in-game jimbo from win screen
and cropping the video
stiff locust
no the thing is the calc function cuts off itself
but the above return message works fine
opal spade
it returns before the context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play is checked
stiff locust
so why doesn't this one work
languid mirage
oh nvm, you wanted it in game
opal spade
but the above return message works fine
yes it returns one and the other one doesnt calc because you've already returned
stiff locust
ahhhh
languid mirage
I can't read I guess
stiff locust
you can only return once
uneven halo
for that gif I used a website to overlay PNG on top of a gif
That'd be easier yeah, but do you know the font so I can make it as close to Balatro as possible?
brisk rose
I'm pretty sure you also need to pass it a loc key instead of a string
languid mirage
That'd be easier yeah, but do you know the font so I can make it as close to Bal...
it's in the game's files
uneven halo
oh nvm, you wanted it in game
I want it as a gif, the in game thing is as close as realistic Jimbo as I can
languid mirage
if you unzip balatro.exe with 7zip
stiff locust
I think I can move around the code to account for this 🤔
opal spade
I'm pretty sure you also need to pass it a loc key instead of a string
if it was a functioning eval message it would display "ERROR" instead of the text yeah
uneven halo
I just realized I could do something similar than what bu did, alter the game loss screen, and have him say that
Instead of messing with a gif since that wouldn't have the font and the way the letters show up one by one
opal spade
I think I can move around the code to account for this 🤔
if you want to display a message w/o returning use card_eval_status_text()
languid mirage
it's in the game's files
this is the font
stiff locust
if you want to display a message w/o returning use ``card_eval_status_text()``
this did not work actually
opal spade
if you want to display a message w/o returning use ``card_eval_status_text()``
look it up in the source to see how its used but the function itself is in functions/common_events.lua
stiff locust
oh i didn't give enough arguments
but all these messages (the ones in vanilla) are localised
i need one that doesn't localise don't I
brisk rose
you define your own loc key I think
rough furnace
I think you can just not call the localize functin
opal spade
ye u can just pass a string instead of localizing
(although localizing is good practice)
brisk rose
ye u can just pass a string instead of localizing
so the syntax would just be message = "Raft!"?
opal spade
so the syntax would just be message = "Raft!"?
ye
localize with a string argument returns a string
so you can just put a string instead of it
rough furnace
what even is self in the calculat context?
opal spade
the center
brisk rose
ngl I still haven't figured out why some Jokers use 'self' and some use 'card' in their calculate functions that seem to do the same thing
brisk rose
though the only mod I have expereince kinda sorta coding is DeFused which is a 0.98 mod frankensteining together the 3 fusion mods and removing the well... fusing
stiff locust
3 fusion mods?
opal spade
ngl I still haven't figured out why some Jokers use 'self' and some use 'card' i...
self (vanilla) = the specific instance of the card during gameplay
self (smods) = prototype object within G.P_CENTERS
card (smods) = the specific instance of the card during gameplay
brisk rose
3 fusion mods?
Fusion Jokers, Jestobiology, and the expansion to Fusion Jokers that only exists as a zip file dropped in the Fusion thread
stiff locust
oh i forgot there was that third one
i hope you don't defuse my fusions but i can't really stop you
opal spade
this did not work either
try passing a colour in addition to the message ig
brisk rose
i hope you don't defuse my fusions but i can't really stop you
I want to respect you, but I also want to use good jokers without needing to fuse them
stiff locust
try passing a colour in addition to the message ig
where does the colour go
opal spade
next to the message
{message = <string>, colour = <colour>}
colour is like
G.C.RED
stiff locust
I want to respect you, but I also want to use good jokers without needing to fus...
they're so easy to fuse ;-;
brisk rose
not when you have 900 jokers in game, lol
opal spade
``G.C.RED``
any of those reference colours or you can put in a hex
brisk rose
I've seen Splash like twice in the last week
rough furnace
I've seen it quite a few times last night (I was going through the collection to make tags)
stiff locust
I've seen Splash like twice in the last week
the first fusion I made was splish splash which creates a splash each time when blind is selected cmon
i'm gonna make decks that make splash more common and have you start with splash too
and i wanna make a card sleeve where the stacked effect is that all splash are negative
hell yknow what
i'll make a tarot card
brisk rose
I just... don't like the Fusion mechanic, but I also... have no idea how or if I'll port DeFused to 1.0
stiff locust
fuck it i'll make a tarot card that just
spawns splash
brisk rose
so it's moot for now anyway
stiff locust
how's that for fusion accessibility huh
i'll make a combustible splash
that burns your house down
aaanyway
stiff locust
``{message = <string>, colour = <colour>}``
didn't work
i used the colour G.C.CHIPS like hiker's normal message uses
opal spade
can i see the code again
stiff locust
opal spade
the return message cuts off the rest of the function
stiff locust
no it doesn't
opal spade
?
stiff locust
the second part of the code still runs through
it triggers the hiker effect a second time on the extra cards, as it should
the message for the second one isn't showing, but everything else down there is working
which is what's confusing me
hardy viper
the second part of the code still runs through
then take it up with whoever made luajit and tell them that return isn't cutting off your code like it should
stiff locust
what
opal spade
the second part of the code still runs through
?
stiff locust
is return just stupid
hardy viper
im being rhetorical because your code is definitely being cut off
and any effects you think you're seeing from the second part are not actually there
stiff locust
it says +10 extra chips on the cards
frosty dock
the second part of the code still runs through
that's just not how returning from functions works...
stiff locust
.
brisk rose
if you remove everything after return in the function, does anything change?
it must be doubling for some other reason
hardy viper
it says +10 extra chips on the cards
then either the first part of the code is doing that or you are literally performing magic
there's no buts the second half of the code is not running its not logically possible
frosty dock
it might be that context.cardarea has some duplicate condition / isn't unique?
stiff locust
then either the first part of the code is doing that or you are literally perfor...
it's literally identical to hiker's effect (without the "am i hiker?" check
opal spade
if you remove everything after return in the function, does anything change?
why do that when you can just slap print('TESTING TESTING') into the second part
brisk rose
isn't coding just a blast
stiff locust
well I heard horror stories about lua but
stiff locust
why do that when you can just slap ``print('TESTING TESTING')`` into the second ...
where would this output
just into the balatro console?
frosty dock
ugh no
opal spade
into the console ye
stiff locust
okay
frosty dock
into the code you're trying to see running
brisk rose
into the code you're trying to see running
the question was where it prints to
not where to put it
stiff locust
oh I just realised I never actually filled in the value displayed on the text
oops
that's a text thing it's not a functionality thing
i haven't stylised the text properly
yet
tepid crow
lol I can't read either apparently
readability at an all time low (I'm the number 1 misreader here)
brisk rose
lol I can't read either apparently
Assertion Failed indeed :P
stiff locust
alright so
opal spade
it's literally identical to hiker's effect (without the "am i hiker?" check
btw its not because you're missing the fact that hiker's condition is nested within a if context.individual then
stiff locust
- I verified that the double extra chips are showing up and triggering properly they are not fake
- the print statement did not show up
so I'm
very confused
uhh
hold on
it might actually be triggering every card twice
but I think that's because I did the if statement backwards
I checked if the cards were in scoring_hand not if they weren't
what's the uhh
symbol for not equal to again
!= or =!
rough furnace
~=
stiff locust
oh
ok
oh it did not like that
are you sure
it says unexpected symbol
oh wait
it's the ~
rough furnace
yes thats lua's not equal
stiff locust
i was doing -
brisk rose
tilde equal is a weird choice for not equal, not sure why they chose that for lua
brisk rose
tilde equal is a weird choice for not equal, not sure why they chose that for lu...
it makes me think "roughly equal" because that's what it typical means in math
stiff locust
okay no you guys must've been right actually
the first part of the code is just triggering twice
opal spade
just swap what youre returning and what youre card_eval_status_text ing
stiff locust
I don't know what's going on with it
stiff locust
just swap what youre returning and what youre card_eval_status_text ing
oh
that makes sense
wintry solar
You check for the cardarea in context which is called multiple times
opal spade
the first part of the code is just triggering twice
because you're not specifying context.individual i think?
wintry solar
It checks for repetitions and individual iirc
hardy viper
tilde equal is a weird choice for not equal, not sure why they chose that for lu...
real ones know that ~= isnt real
stiff locust
You check for the cardarea in context which is called multiple times
oh
how do I not do that
brisk rose
I feel like I'm the too-manyth cook in the kitchen and well... I can barely use a microwave
wintry solar
Add context.individual to your initial check
stiff locust
okay
frosty dock
real ones know that ~= isnt real
me when I avoid ~= by just using not(a==b)
frosty dock
actually and isn't real either, there's always not (not a or not b)
stiff locust
okay so
- it's still triggering twice on every card but this time it seems to be a logical error
- is the "Upgrade!" text supposed to appear below hiker or above the card?
brisk rose
actually `and` isn't real either, there's always `not (not a or not b)`
if you just keep removing symbols until you have the minimum to be turing complete... I don't even want to fathom the monstrosity you have created
stiff locust
if you just keep removing symbols until you have the minimum to be turing comple...
this is how i defusion-proof my mod
anyway now i just have a logical error to solve
hardy viper
me when I avoid ~= by just using `not(a==b)`
that's the joke
it's automatically translated to that before it's compiled
if you gave an ~= to the compiler it'd tell you there's a syntax error 
stiff locust
the part that triggers the effect again if the card is not found in scoring_hand is triggering on every card
hardy viper
it's automatically translated to that before it's compiled
(assumption, maybe this is done in the middle of the compile)
frosty dock
if you just keep removing symbols until you have the minimum to be turing comple...
omw to create brainfuck 2.0
stiff locust
which is strange because i thought scoring_hand would be only the non splashed cards
brisk rose
I still don't understand how lua is a "compiled" language, when the binaries seem to contain all the plaintext source
hardy viper
I still don't understand how lua is a "compiled" language, when the binaries see...
compiled at runtime using luajit
brisk rose
ah fair enough
hardy viper
i Hate you luajit
sincerely cg
(it's not that bad it's just annoying sometimes)
(and also slow)
brisk rose
I guess I should have figured that luajit means "lua just in time"
hardy viper
meh it's not the easiest acronym to figure out if you haven't seen it before
stiff locust
the part that triggers the effect again if the card is not found in scoring_hand...
i am very confused by this not working
i thought it'd be that scoring_hand contains every card in the hand but
regardless of if i check if they are or aren't in scoring_hand
every card is triggered by this
okay wait
stiff locust
yeah this is fucking weird
so if i make the second part run if the cards are found in scoring_hand (the inverse of what I want)
wintry solar
It’s just bad logic
stiff locust
the card triggers as expected
wintry solar
You check if the other card is not scoring hand card 1 and if it’s not you do something
stiff locust
no but
that would mean it triggers on only one card if it's inverted
but when it is inverted it works properly except inverted
oh wait np
no
I get what you mean now
how do I make it not do that
I know how
hold on i need to write this down this is confusing me
it doesn't work because i check each individual value of scoring hand
to see if it's not equal to the current scored card
and if it's not then it goes on with the rest of the code
and it shouldn't do that because if the card is in scoring hand
then it will still get triggered because other values in scoring hand are wrong
okay
wintry solar
You need to check it’s not equal to any card in scoring hand
stiff locust
yeah
if i use break to end an if stateemnt
what was my question again
must've been stupid the answer feels obvious
frosty dock
break doesn't break out of an if statement, it breaks out of a loop
stiff locust
i see
hardy viper
can you structure loc_txt like
loc_txt = {
name = "name name :3",
text = {
[[blah blah text
blah blah more text
blah blah blah]]
}
or do you absolutely have to use multiple strings in the table to utilize line breaks
regal wolf
can you structure loc_txt like
```lua
loc_txt = {
name = "name name :3",
text = ...
multiple strings
frosty dock
break doesn't break out of an if statement, it breaks out of a loop
(or out of switch statements actually, which lua doesn't have. One of the few good things about it tbh)
hardy viper
multiple strings
unfortunate
hardy viper
(or out of switch statements actually, which lua doesn't have. One of the few go...
hey what's wrong with switch statements
wintry solar
Switch statements are just if statements in a different wrapper
stiff locust
my solution didn't work
frosty dock
hey what's wrong with switch statements
bad design imo, mostly the implicit fall-thru
wintry solar
my solution didn't work
You want a Boolean that’s set to true that you set to false (or vice versa) when you find a match, and then your if block under that dependant on the Boolean
stiff locust
that is what I did
but I think I defined the boolean inside the loop
so it's resetting on every trigger
my fault lol
i moved it and
it didn't work
wait i think i got it
gaunt thistle
bad design imo, mostly the implicit fall-thru
a switch statement is just a mid pattern match
stiff locust
i didn't get it
I think I did something stupid
but i don't know where the stupid is
okay well i noticed what I did wrong
the return should not be in that else
please work (the coding experience)
stiff locust
the return should not be in that else
did not solve my issue however
i need a fresh pair of brain bro
wintry solar
Where are all your ends 😭
wintry solar
Then they’re in the wrong place 😆
stiff locust
what
tepid crow
just because it doesn't crash doesn't mean the code is working like you expect it to
stiff locust
but it is working like i expect it to 2/3 times
both my other jokers did this and they work flawlessly as intended
this one is having logic errors for issues totally unrelated to the ends
(i think)
tepid crow
well either your indentation is wrong or your ends are
what does this joker do again?
stiff locust
what does this joker do again?
splash effect and hiker effect
if card was scored by splash effect, trigger hiker effect again
opal spade
I think I did something stupid
can you annotate the intended functionality of this code, statement by statement
stiff locust
everything works except the last part
ah oh wait
I know what it is yeah
writing it out made it so obvious
tepid crow
yeah that's how it usually goes
stiff locust
but i'm not sure how to fix it
tepid crow
I think this is what you want?
stiff locust
well now i wanna keep all my ends at the end for the funny
tepid crow
just to clarify, indentation doesn't do anything in lua
stiff locust
what
tepid crow
indentation doesn't do anything, code wise
opal spade
a lot of ui code in balatro is compressed by putting a lot of things into one line
tepid crow
idk, this aint python
opal spade
a lot of ui code in balatro is compressed by putting a lot of things into one li...
you could compress your joker into a single line if you truly wanted to
stiff locust
i'm still gonna indent for peace of mind
tepid crow
you should
tepid crow
did you use python before this or what
tepid crow
Lua's end is Python's dedent, basically
which is why I added these ends here #💻・modding-dev message
stiff locust
okay
well
damn.
i can't keep all my ends at the end anymore
that's really good to know and yeah that fixed my joker
now there is
one more issue i'm having
which is that the upgrade text appears below hiker and not on top of the scored card
card_eval_status_text(card, 'extra', nil, nil, nil, {message = localize('k_upgrade_ex'), colour = G.C.CHIPS})
i'm guessing i change the "extra" value for this? but what to
opal spade
no u change card to context.other_card
opal spade
the first argument is the card that speaks
tepid crow
i can't keep all my ends at the end anymore
I'm baffled that you didn't know this yet... how'd that even happen??
stiff locust
I'm baffled that you didn't know this yet... how'd that even happen??
it never came up with my other two jokers
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tepid crow
there's no way those didn't need end
tepid crow
🤦♂️
stiff locust
the jokers work as intended though
opal spade
then end are basically { } from other languages
stiff locust
well it's good to know now
i specifically chose these three jokers to make first though
because they give me all the fundamentals i need to make (almost) every other fusion
code wise that knocks out a lot of writing cause i can copy it over
thank you all for all of your help (and patience with my dumbass)
tepid crow
all good lol
opal spade
thank you all for all of your help (and patience with my dumbass)
thats what this channel is for
brisk rose
``then end`` are basically ``{ }`` from other languages
which makes lua really hard to read, at least for me
part of the uh... bracketing being a word just throws me off
wintry solar
It just needs indenting properly to be readable
brisk rose
looking at DeFused would probably give you an aneurysm. Due to its cobbled-together nature and me being lazy, the indenting is al over the place
stiff locust
i feel confident enough in progress that i am going to make a mod thread
but i will not have a github yet because i can't figure out how to make one and dont have enough for a beta release yet methinks
stiff locust
i'm gonna wait until I have at least 10 jokers
then i will make a legendary and a tarot card and a github
tepid crow
making a thread for concepting is great, but I'd definitely recommend a github if you're planning to actually release anything
stiff locust
well i've already concepted almost every fusion
i did that a long time ago on a separate sheet
i will do a github when i do any releases
zealous glen
I probably should push what I have to GitHub and make a thread
So I can be motivated to continue working on it
opal spade
i finally got balatroAP 0.1.9 to a presentable state so burndi can release that and i can work on magictrick again w/o feeling like im slowing down another mod
on magictrick the big roadblock is still the custom retrigger api (unifying vanilla's playing card retriggers and smods' joker retrigger api into a singular system with depth config) but its less of a theoretical roadblock and more of a "this is very annoying to implement" roadblock
opal spade
on magictrick the big roadblock is still the custom retrigger api (unifying vani...
also at this point I'm rewriting so much of evaluate play that at this point it would be easier to override it instead of patching it piece by piece but it'll probably be a nightmare to write it in a way that would keep it compatible with lovely patches
(but then again this mod is a compatibility nightmare at it's core)
zealous glen
Maybe you could help with the Better Calc branch
Which would help with compatibility
opal spade
First I'd have to learn more about what better calc was (what was the goal, what were the methods), the one thing that I do know is that it's so outdated that any attempts to continue it would have to start from scratch
I feel like working on better calc would be a bit out of my league (because if anything, magictrick is the "worse calc", hacking things together to make different separate systems coexist under the same hood; it allows for more flexibility, but it's far from improving anything)
zealous glen
I had an idea for creating a class to allow extending calculation to more objects but I never did anything with it
opal spade
the basic principle behind magictrick extending the default calcs to iterate over card lists instead of specific hands and then "translate" different calc types where applicable (i.e. a playing card in the joker space would call a eval_card for being held when asked to joker_main)
zealous glen
That was kind of the idea
The class would have about three properties
A CardArea, a Card set (or maybe a list), and a number
The number orders it before or after the default calculation step and relative to each other
opal spade
A `CardArea`, a `Card` set (or maybe a list), and a number
rn magictrick has a cardarea api with order and tags, so for example "context.individual" are iterated over a card list received from all card areas with the tag "playing_cards"
the default order of things rn
G.play -> G.hand -> G.jokers -> G.consumeables
with all of them having their own sets of tags related to things that need to be differentiated
opal spade
with all of them having their own sets of tags related to things that need to be...
atm the cardarea api grabs tags directly from the cardarea objects but I plan on separating that into a separate function so mods could hook it
zealous glen
Well, rather than using tags, my idea was to have a list of CardAreas to iterate over and what to look for in each of them
Since you don’t need to recreate the list at runtime
opal spade
Well, rather than using tags, my idea was to have a list of CardAreas to iterate...
magic trick is kinda approaching this point bcos one of the things on the todo list is unify individual G.play and individual G.hand into one phase (although still relying on the tag system to check whether hand/play effects should be calced or not) and merging joker_main into that loop could make sense (esp with the thoughts of complete override)
default response to getting cards from cardarea api is just giving a complete list of G.play -> G.hand -> G.jokers -> G.consumeables because outside of evaluate_play all one needs is just all the cards
opal spade
default response to getting cards from cardarea api is just giving a complete li...
that would also simplify the "translation" process bcos then since it's all one phase it'll already react as expected
stiff locust
i am unfortunately swinging back around here again
right after i test a solution i just came up with
it says attempt to index field "extra" and crashes but i returned mult_mod = card.ability.extra.mult * modifier which is correct isn't it
i did define the joker's mult value with config = { extra = { mult = 3 } },
so i think somethijng went wrong there? but i can't tell what
the example mod does it like this and vanilla and modded jokers get this to work
wintry solar
Did you load a save to test?
wintry solar
yeah if you update the config you need a new card
stiff locust
now i have a new problem
this joker does not trigger the splash effect
even though I added it to the same table as I used for the other two jokers
and the other two jokers in the table apply the splash effect as they should
graceful horizon
Where does one start when wanting to create mods for the game?
stiff locust
Where does one start when wanting to create mods for the game?
this helped me a LOT
graceful horizon
ty! I'll have a look at it
rough furnace
Should use SMODS.load_file
solid salmon
just that or?
rough furnace
It won't fix your frash but it will make your filename more readable
rough furnace
will never be fixed
nocturne garnet
completely balanced
rough furnace
totallty
elder vapor
i want to get into developing a balatro mod as a little fun project but everything looks confusing 😭 should i look at example mods source and learn from there?
nimble sequoia
yes
limpid flint
Of course
loud citrus
i'm trying to edit the vers of 8 ball and it's telling me self and card is nil, dose anyone know why? (putting either card or self is nil)
stiff locust
i'm trying to edit the vers of 8 ball and it's telling me self and card is nil, ...
did you add the extra field
this is what it'd be referring to
loud citrus
yeah
stiff locust
alright i figured out the issue with my joker it is now functional
however it should be applying the splash effect
this is how i patch in the splash effect, and this method works for soaked joker and raft, but not dihydrogen monoxide for some reason? anyone know why?
tepid sky
this is how i patch in the splash effect, and this method works for soaked joker...
I like science lol
stiff locust
regardless of its position in the table it will never trigger the splash effect but the other two will
this is confusing
wait i know why
nevermind i don't
wintry solar
Can I see the joker definitions?
stiff locust
this is everything before the ability
the ability works as intended
it's just not finding dihydrogen monoxide when it's in your jokers for some reason
wintry solar
I’d recommend using SMODS.find_card instead of the find joker function
stiff locust
but i am lovely patching it into the base code
will that work with a smods function?
brisk rose
Well, I'm pretty sure that's how mods are loaded in the end, so probably?
stiff locust
I’d recommend using `SMODS.find_card` instead of the find joker function
are the arguments for this the same as the find joker function or no
stiff locust
Well, I'm pretty sure that's how mods are loaded in the end, so probably?
yeah ig it's worth a try
wintry solar
It uses keys
wintry solar
Yeah
wintry solar
It returns a table so it checks that there’s something in it
You still need that bit
stiff locust
okay
i set up a key table and changed it to use the smods find card
this did not solve my issue
stiff locust
It uses keys
wait do i need to include the j_ and/or my mod prefix
brisk rose
I'd guess yes to the j_ no to the prefix
also, this is a good type of thing to reference other mods for
brisk rose
ayyy nice
brisk rose
it is j_prefix_key
and yeah that makes since i guess
stiff locust
logic error it'll be fine
stiff locust
changed the method and the joker works again
wintry solar
You almost always need the full prefix
stiff locust
that is a fourth fusion joker implemented
is there a way to reset the colour and size of text without making a new line in loc_txt
brisk rose
Also, random question to eremel, did mod prefixes exist in 0.98? Defused seemed to have a conflict with regular fusion until I basically manually gave it one
stiff locust
Also, random question to eremel, did mod prefixes exist in 0.98? Defused seemed ...
yes they did
i'm pretty sure
i saw mod prefixes in jestobiology's fusion results
they're all j_f_key
brisk rose
they were named that
stiff locust
oh
stiff locust
guess it was the slug
split jungle
hey what does setting atlas and soul_pos do
I also have problems with global var
how do I included these
stiff locust
hey what does setting atlas and soul_pos do
the atlas is what provides textures
in the assets/1x and assets/2x folders under your mod you should have your mod's sprites in there
split jungle
i did
stiff locust
the atlas refers to the name of the file
soul_pos is for legendaries
you use soul_pos to define the location of the floating front part of the card
makes sense?
muted pier
i'm trying to edit the vers of 8 ball and it's telling me self and card is nil, ...
when taking ownership, self becomes the center, and card is the actual card
you wanna use card.ability
or self.config
split jungle
also some part of my code or smt keep saying undefinded global
how do I define them
loud citrus
when taking ownership, self becomes the center, and card is the actual card
oh that makes a lot more sense mow, thank you!
muted pier
also some part of my code or smt keep saying undefinded global
ignore that, its just how lua works
split jungle
oh ok
stiff locust
yeah that's normal with SMODS functions and stuff
muted pier
because the project doesn't know they exist, but they do
stiff locust
it will say undefined global but it should work fine
just note that if you use a global from another mod
you need to load your mod after that mod
split jungle
Damn
wintry solar
Also, random question to eremel, did mod prefixes exist in 0.98? Defused seemed ...
I’m not sure, I didn’t really do much work in 0.9.8
primal robin
Is UI supports transparency?
frosty dock
Also, random question to eremel, did mod prefixes exist in 0.98? Defused seemed ...
not eremel here but no
wintry solar
Is UI supports transparency?
I'm sure you can give it a transparent colour yeah, what are youtrying to do?
primal robin
Smth like CSS opacity
Want to create a small block which will appear and after period of time became transparent with transition
wintry solar
wait, G.C.CLEAR is already a transparent colour
primal robin
Problem is children, some text will be inside
frosty dock
wait so a gradient?
opal spade
wait so a gradient?
i think they mean fade in/fade out
wintry solar
the text should be fine
languid mirage
UI color is a table of RGBA normalized to 0..1
{r, g, b, a}
so color[4] is transparency
stiff locust
getting an error "for limit must be a number" on this line, guessing it's because of #context.scoring_hand ?
wintry solar
make sure context.scoring_hand exists
stiff locust
is there something else it should be
languid mirage
so you want opacity go from 0 to 1
primal robin
And backwards
languid mirage
over time
languid mirage
so color[4] is transparency
^
primal robin
Is it works for children?
languid mirage
if children use the same color table
yes
you can create a copy table of color
and use it for all nodes that need it
I'm not 100% sure about text nodes
I dont know if text opacity can be a ref_value or something
primal robin
So basically answer is no, only adjust color for each node "individually". Sad but it's okay
languid mirage
yeah, engine is rather limited in that regard
primal robin
At least i tried
stiff locust
make sure `context.scoring_hand` exists
how do I do that
wintry solar
if context.scoring_hand
stiff locust
i did that
wintry solar
can you show more code?
stiff locust
joker should give 1.5x mult per unique suit in played hand
wintry solar
you have too many ends
stiff locust
oh
stiff locust
please tell me this code is indented in your editor though
it is
i indent everything as it would be in python
opal spade
why dont indents get saved
stiff locust
that should fix it
if i just remove that end it says missing symbol end
wintry solar
oh, put it at the end then
stiff locust
i did that and got the same crash
brisk rose
why dont indents get saved
The ide probably isn't displaying in normal plain text
So formatting gets lost with copy/paste
opal spade
joker should give 1.5x mult per unique suit in played hand
btw you should specify context too because context.scoring_hand gets passed with many different contexts and if your only condition is context.scoring_hand then the code will fire off much more often than you'd probably want
stiff locust
what should I change that to then
opal spade
also smods has suits api
wintry solar
okay your for loops need ends
opal spade
what should I change that to then
if context.scoring_hand and context.joker_main if you want it to fire off during the main joker scoring phase
stiff locust
also smods has suits api
i dont need it though
wait actually i might need it for modded suits
opal spade
you do because you're trying to count unique suits
stiff locust
i mean the method i used here counts unique suits just fine
wintry solar
why do you have the ssame code twice btw?
stiff locust
why do you have the ssame code twice btw?
because flower pot does it that way
now that i think about it, why did thunk do it this way
brisk rose
🍝
tepid crow
I've looked at flower pot before, I recall it being that way yeah
stiff locust
the wildcard should count as every suit
wintry solar
I also think that this will just always give you the number of cards you've played, right?
stiff locust
it's because wild "fills" any missing suits
makes sense
stiff locust
I also think that this will just always give you the number of cards you've play...
it gives you the number of unique suits played (out of vanilla suits)
wintry solar
oh no I am also blind
stiff locust
i just add together all the suit values at the end
and multiply that number by the card.ability.extra which is 1.5
and return xmult_mod with that so it should give 1.5x mult per unique suit
hey wait won't that make two unique suits give 3x mult
jesus that's strong uhh
i'll make it give + X0.5 mult per unique suit
i can modify it to do that
opal spade
to get all the suits (vanilla + modded) you should be able to loop over SMODS.Suits and grab their keys
brisk rose
Also keep in mind Fusions are supposed to be strong. It's why even I have them rarities for DeFused most ended up rare
opal spade
to get all the suits (vanilla + modded) you should be able to loop over ``SMODS....
unless im misunderstanding it, been a while since ive messed with apis
stiff locust
Also keep in mind Fusions are supposed to be strong. It's why even I have them r...
well perferably i'd want it to give 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 mult when you have 4 unique suits for example
wintry solar
you can just loop through the hand and add the suits present to a table
primal robin
Which major I should use to be over all playing cards but behind G.OVERLAY_MENU?
wintry solar
but it'll be funky with wild cards
brisk rose
well perferably i'd want it to give 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 mult when you have 4 u...
That should be possible
stiff locust
but it'll be funky with wild cards
i'lll just have it be vanilla suits
cause otherwise wildcards would be super broken if you had more than 4 suits
brisk rose
Multiplyying nstead of adding
wintry solar
Which `major` I should use to be over all playing cards but behind `G.OVERLAY_ME...
instance_type- sets the layer your element is drawn on
- Options includeNODE,MOVEABLE,UIBOX(with noattention_text),CARDAREA,CARD,UI_BOX(withattention_text = true),ALERT,POPUP.
- Layered from left to right.
primal robin
Thanks!
stiff locust
but none of this solves my problem
the code still isn't working regardless of its efficiency
tepid crow
NODE, MOVEABLE, UIBOX (with no attention_text), CARDAREA, CARD, UI_BOX (with attention_text = true), ALERT, POPUP.
ahhh, that explains why UIBOX is in there twice actually
stiff locust
this fucking ide make me wanna kms
i put a } down and it goes unexpected symbol
i don't put one down and it goes missing symbol }
opening balatro and letting it fucking crash is more informative than this
all that shit popped up just cause I missed an integer elsewhere in the code
god
crisp elbow
You use VSCode?
drowsy tulip
i wanna create a global variable to store a card like the idol how can i do that
stiff locust
okay
i don't know how it got 5.06x mult
but it worked
okay no it worked as intended
5.06x mult is 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5
drowsy tulip
i wanna create a global variable to store a card like the idol how can i do that
nvm scratch that
hardy viper
i don't put one down and it goes missing symbol }
you probably put it in the wrong spot?
stiff locust
i figured it out
hardy viper
cool
stiff locust
joker is functional correctly now
stiff locust
how do I refer to only the card currently being scored
i don't know if that will fix this actually
this code is checking every card in scoring_hand every time
i don't want it to do that
i want it to only check the card currently being scored
opal spade
why are you looping over scoring hand
stiff locust
well yeah i know that's what is wrong with it
how would I make it only check each card once
opal spade
i don't know if that will fix this actually
the loop here doesn't even define the card you're checking so you're checking the card that's being scored and repeating that the same amount of times as the amount of cards in the scored hand
stiff locust
oh
opal spade
either that or don't check other card
other card = the other card in individual scoring or retrigger check
opal spade
either that or don't check other card
what are you trying to do
stiff locust
count how many A/2/3/5/8 are in the played hand
opal spade
then you need to replace other card with v
and put it in context.joker_main
unless I'm misunderstanding the intended effect
stiff locust
fibsequence should be equal to the number of A/2/3/5/8 in the hand
which i then multiply by 3, which is how much +mult each A/2/3/5/8 gives
that is the intended effect
everything works except for counting how many fib numbers are in the played hand
opal spade
oh ok then you just need to replace other_card within the loop for v
stiff locust
so context.v:get_id() or v:get_id()
opal spade
v:get_id()
stiff locust
okay
stray orbit
anyone know how to use vars.colours for the background colour on text?
like the red part of xmult
this doesnt work
mellow sable
Use X:mult,C:white
stray orbit
nono i want to use a colour stored in vars.colours
V:1 sets the text colour but i want to set the colour behind the text too
wintry solar
you can't do it that way, you'd have to add your colour to the colours table
earnest creek
are there any resources that I can look into if I wanna get into modding?
stiff locust
are there any resources that I can look into if I wanna get into modding?
also learn lua idk
earnest creek
tyvm
drowsy tulip
are there any resources that I can look into if I wanna get into modding?
balatro source code and example mods are great options
stiff locust
yeah the source code is super helpful
tepid crow
to know what's going on yeah, not sure as example
drowsy tulip
trying to get text to color based on the suit picked and this aint working help
stiff locust
is there a way i can check what mod a joker is from
wait ceres does that doesn't it
stiff locust
are there any resources that I can look into if I wanna get into modding?
also other mods
stiff locust
the guys at cryptid are fuckin wizards man
drowsy tulip
mostly what i got from looking at other mod is that shit is too complex for the effort
earnest creek
lmfao
stiff locust
looking at other mods has helped me a LOT
bleak rain
cuz math is smart
No, math is fun 
stiff locust
i wouldnt have known how to register fusions if i hadnt looked at the other fusion mods
tepid crow
mostly what i got from looking at other mod is that shit is too complex for the ...
this can be true btw, some mods can really abstract a process
stiff locust
yeah i noticed that with sdm0's splash evo code
earnest creek
btw, what happens if I give a joker no texture? cuz I can't be asked to do legendary joker background art
stiff locust
¯_(ツ)_/¯
drowsy tulip
probably just gonna be nothing
stiff locust
if you're making a legendary you can color shift the legendary background to fit your theming
and just change the nameplate
vanilla style legendary backgrounds are easy
drowsy tulip
ye thats true
stiff locust
one other thing about legendaries
soul_pos refers to the placement of the floating front part of the card
regal wolf
some mods can be really helpful to look at, others not so much
primal robin
Just addig small popup is such a pain 
tepid crow
balatro UI be like
stiff locust
is there a way i can check what mod a joker is from
would this be #prefix_jokers?
like for my mod #tsun_jokers?
split jungle
the guys at cryptid are fuckin wizards man
Hell yeah
earnest creek
how can I let a joker retrigger a specific card multiple times?
(for example, ace of spades)
tepid crow
is there a way i can check what mod a joker is from
like, code-wise?
stiff locust
code wise
tepid crow
joker_center.mod.id iirc
tepid crow
this is a sleeve center
drowsy tulip
how can I let a joker retrigger a specific card multiple times?
(for example, ac...
look at the code for hack
tepid crow
also what is this in a context
idk this is hard to explain lol
do you know when you have a Card class?
stiff locust
i just want to run an if statement which goes "if joker is from x mod, do this"
how do I do that
stiff locust
yeah i wanna give xmult to jokers from a specific mod like how baseball card does it with a rarity
tepid crow
context.other_joker.config.center.mod.id
stiff locust
so would that come out as the mod prefix
tepid crow
no, that'd be .mod.prefix
stiff locust
oh yeah right there's a mod ID section
tepid crow
this is a sleeve center
this image shows what a .mod all contains
tepid crow
might also need to double check for basegame jokers? idk if steamodded gives them a .mod
stray orbit
trying to get text to color based on the suit picked and this aint working help
does your loc_vars look like return { vars = {something, something, colours = {something} } }?
i didnt realise the first time that colours needs to be part of vars
stiff locust
`context.other_joker.config.center.mod.id`
is there something like context.other_joker.config.center.name i can search?
to get the joker's name
tepid crow
what do you need the name for?
stiff locust
what do you need the name for?
to check if it's splash
that very common thing everyone needs to do
all the time
tepid crow
ofc ofc
tepid crow
to check if it's splash
I suggest checking it's key instead
stiff locust
that works too
tepid crow
context.other_joker.config.center.key == "j_splash" I think
stiff locust
alright thanks
tepid crow
keys are less prone to changing and being messed up
stiff locust
when you run juice_up(x,y) what do the two arguments do
tepid crow
is it not clear from the definition in the base-game code?
stiff locust
i mean the only instance i've seen so far it just uses (0.5, 0.5)
tepid crow
your editor should have a "search all", use that
stiff locust
i am using that
i don't know what to search for so i'm just looking through instances of juice up and i can't find it
earnest creek
if I wanna check for aces, do I just go if rank == "Ace"?
stiff locust
if I wanna check for aces, do I just go `if rank == "Ace"`?
if rank == 14