don't get this many jokers
#⚙・modding-general
fathom gust
your game WILL crash after 1 hand
x = 1
{} > x
woven crag
Ts talismanslop
fathom gust
attempt to compare table to number
prisma latch
attempt to compare number to table
winged prism
What's the third secret order
prisma latch
ok nice this works
forest knoll
What's the third secret order
table to number compare to attempt
viral gulch
attempt to compare table to number
and that means? (im stupid ok?)
prisma latch
and if you disable spectrum framework with its long af name
fathom gust
THE URGE.
winged prism
One, literally any
fathom gust
THE ACTUAL URGE.
viral gulch
my curiosity got the better of me and i used the crash code card
viral gulch
yeah i deserve that tbh
prisma latch
i can hear this image
winged prism
my curiosity got the better of me and i used the crash code card
I wonder what crash card could do
Hmmm
viral gulch
😭
winged prism
No idea, honestly
hard plank
don't get this many jokers
hop on aikoshen
viral gulch
hop on aikoshen
whazzat
hard plank
viral gulch
huh
winged prism
Love how non of these pictures indicate that Danbo is from Yotsuba... He's almost his own thing
viral gulch
ok real question what the hell does ERROR even do
hard plank
glitched
viral gulch
later
lavish pike
mod my twin play
winged prism
Wawawawawa
hard plank
ice
full edge
aiko
hard plank
what does my mod need for success
fathom gust
i kind of want to add a speedy comet to my mod ngl
prisma latch
two thousand jokers
full edge
i don't think i'm the person who knows. Have you tried adding jokers that reference movies from the 1940s?
fathom gust
15 second timer, playing a hand adds +5 seconds, exiting shop adds +5 seconds...
-# new super mario galax-
hard plank
never watched movies older than 10 years at the time of watching
keen knoll
play my mod?
winged prism
Don't think so sorry
lavish pike
play no mods, the concept of mods are cancelled now
fathom gust
play my mod?
-# no candycane that's not how you shill a mod /hj
lavish pike
-# ~~no candycane that's not how you shill a mod~~ /hj
oh...
uhh play my mod or something /j
prisma latch
added pips so you can actually tell how many pages there are still
will probably add it as an option to the config
keen knoll
-# ~~no candycane that's not how you shill a mod~~ /hj
aikoshen is doing it
full edge
Now it's time to figure out how I want this to look, UI-wise, before you've completed quests. I kinda want there to be a lock sprite, but then there's not really much room for text. Unless I manage to make each quest very simple so it fits in a smaller text box 🤔
viral gulch
IM RICH
keen knoll
nil
spare token
how in the fuck
viral gulch
how in the fuck
moneh
keen knoll
how in the fuck
cryptid and probably compound interest
spare token
cryptid and probably compound interest
oh ok
viral gulch
cryptid and probably compound interest
yes and i dont remember
full edge
getting e money is as trivial as e anything in cryptid, yeah
fathom gust
hold on let me break out the isojunkyard and gardenview crossmod rq
rain orbit
El gato balatro
keen knoll
Now it's time to figure out how I want this to look, UI-wise, before you've comp...
i assume the diamonds one is only at end of round?
full edge
yup
fathom gust
lmfa
keen knoll
getting e money is as trivial as e anything in cryptid, yeah
especially getting e nough
keen knoll
Now it's time to figure out how I want this to look, UI-wise, before you've comp...
also wait is the spades one scaling
full edge
yeah, will give x0.1 more for each Spades in your discard pile
keen knoll
should probably add (currently X1) then
full edge
I mean, it does all still say nil, haha, I'm testing stuff still
trail berry
im bored again best balatro card/content idea i will implement
keen knoll
also if youre basing it on the uncommon gems then spades and hearts should be swapped
rain orbit
trail berry
im bored again best balatro card/content idea i will implement
wait why am i evil
fathom gust
sorry, but may I ask what in the fuck?
the evil and intimidating
+(some really fucking overpowered joker)
lavish pike
right
rain orbit
The good and nice looking
full edge
It's based on the suit pattern I used in Kino's spells, though I do know it breaks with the gems
fathom gust
maybe that's why chips don't equal money
prisma latch
ok list of collection tabs that dont seem to work with planetx yet: seals, editions (no pages), tags, blinds
keen knoll
maybe that's why chips don't equal money
this isnt cloverpit
lavish pike
the evil and intimidating
I need to draw my oc as a joker dont I?
even If I dont use it
trail berry
im bored again best balatro card/content idea i will implement
Guyseth.
keen knoll
It's based on the suit pattern I used in Kino's spells, though I do know it brea...
oh ok
full edge
the gimmick of the joker is that when it spawns, only a random one of those abilities is unlocked, and the other three are locked behind a little mission you need to do. Missions will be the same each time, but which ability they lock changes whenever that joker spawns
lavish pike
I did do it for bala dash once, but eh (ngl, It was indeed ass from the second I drew it)
keen knoll
the gimmick of the joker is that when it spawns, only a random one of those abil...
oh cool
viral gulch
mortal minds cannot comprehend the sheer NUMBERS of my wealth
hard plank
mortal minds cannot comprehend the sheer NUMBERS of my wealth
i can
viral gulch
nuh uh
hard plank
i don't think you know how much or little that is
winged prism
mortal minds cannot comprehend the sheer NUMBERS of my wealth
Slop money
viral gulch
i don't think you know how much or little that is
yeah well i've never seen someone with e
viral gulch
i see
winged prism
i dont know what you mean
Slopful sloppy moneyrs
wind turtle
don't get this many jokers
worldly cliff
should i do it ?
formal orchid
play my mod
winged prism
Was that printful a sleeper agent
formal orchid
who knows
prisma latch
How printful?
does discarding decrease its value or is it stuck at 2X forever
because if its stuck that could be rare worthy
winged prism
does discarding decrease its value or is it stuck at 2X forever
"Values of the copied ability won't be affected"
Might be a bad wording?
But yeah, stuck at 2x
formal orchid
why is the button above the joker
winged prism
Below?..
formal orchid
no like
formal orchid
i like it being like that but was curious
winged prism
i like it being like that but was curious
It's because I have no idea how to put it below without redefining use_button lol
normal hollow
i love drawsteps
formal orchid
drawsteps are goated
prisma latch
ok planetx can now properly seperate seals into pages
stable juniper
hi gamers
just back from the trenches
updated Phanta and BFDI's wikis
worst good decision of my life
prisma latch
i have enabled all of my content mods and still only have 10 editions
i need to get more
so i can test planetx
whats a mod with loads of editions
not cryptid
granite forum
not cryptid
cryptid 💡
prisma latch
yeah sure ive not checked out revos vault yet
pta's joker.lua is currently giving X93.5
the benefit of having every individual object in your mod have its own file
ok so yeah when you have more than 10 editions it adds pages, i just gotta figure out how to make it do that when pages are added by planetx
oblique sparrow
lavish pike
hi
sick spade
What are the must have mods to start modding?
blazing pivot
DebugPlus and DebugPlusPlus
prisma latch
if you mean development debugplus is a must have
blazing pivot
Steamodded is required; Cartomancer and Handy are nice to have
prisma latch
galdur, deck sleeves, partner, handy, cartomancer
sick spade
Ooo
formal orchid
man i cant recommend my mod as a great mod to start with
forest knoll
paperback and all in jest are always my top two recommended starter mods
ortalab and blindside are fantastic too but they're each fairly dedicated experiences that you should play with only them (and your qol non-content mods of choice)
full edge
Paperback is a really good mod to dip your toes into, yeah
prisma latch
it workssss
wtf. who was gonna tell me payas terrible additions has a spectral card that doubles joker values and makes them take 2 slots.
thats. thats my fucking Big edition
ok so i think i just gotta make the blind tab and the tags tab work and then add a config menu and the mod should be good to ship pretty much
time to lose my mind figuring out why those tabs dont cooperate
seems like they dont use SMODS.card_collection_UIBox. greeeat
forest knoll
yea blinds and tags are Silly™ (not centers)
at least i assume that's related to why they have special uibox functions for the collection
prisma latch
i can probably get away with not including them for now right
indigo narwhal
so, uh, how do we uh, get a mod to a wider audience to get more feedback and stuff? I feel like some mods get off the ground and just have a ton of traction and...well.
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1464718331524288637
cause I can just do this and go "hey look at what we're making"
formal orchid
get a somewhat known streamer to play it probably
i personally shill my mod any chance i get
indigo narwhal
ah
well we're technically still in the early stages
not playable at all yet
but more artists and programmers...who are more available. would be nice.
formal orchid
i would help but i got more than i can handle on my plate rn
indigo narwhal
I get you
formal orchid
working on 4 mods at the same time is tiring
i checked the mod out when the thread was first made and it seems interesting
wishing you luck
indigo narwhal
thankies
full edge
but more artists and programmers...who are more available. would be nice.
I think you just kinda have to assume any project is solo dev, as the default
full edge
And the way to get it out there is just to keep talking about it and making sure it's on the known places to find mods
indigo narwhal
I suppose it's weird to be asking for more. :V
we mostly just need help filling out some of the slots for spectral cards.
full edge
Yeah, it does happen. But so does work or exam weeks, so people's availability often doesn't match up with their enthusiasm, haha. That's not a problem, but I think you have to kind of assume there's no level of notariety a mod is gonna reach where you'll all of a sudden find consistent, highly skilled contributors.
indigo narwhal
I mostly just want to get it done
so I can improve
and get onto the next one
Maybe I should just learn how to do it myself
formal orchid
learning is always a great option
indigo narwhal
It's just intimidating
I have a lot of game and balance knowledge.
but most of my coding/formatting is like
HTML
and BBCode
formal orchid
i had 0 experience in lua when i started
and lua is very easy to pick up
so it did not take much time to get the basics
long hare
evil and intimidating emerald build
formal orchid
im emeralding it
granite forum
evil and intimidating emerald build
long hare
evil and intimidating emerald build
actually this is just observer build cranked up to the max, phantom and blue bonnets make observer's xmult crazy high
woven crag
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1235990629863919667/1465439003573489736/B...
why do the in hand scoring effects fully happen before the regular hand effects
also negative playing cards
actually since they highlight i assume its a different method of making them score
blazing pivot
why do the in hand scoring effects fully happen before the regular hand effects
Wdym? They're first scored as played, then in-hand effects happen
woven crag
i assumed that that would happen per card
blazing pivot
Ohh
Well the way the scoring code goes it goes one card area at a time, not one card at a time
So first G.play is scored with all its cards, then G.hand is scored with all its cards
woven crag
i use a SMODS.score_card hook for whenever i do it in my mod and that goes per card
blazing pivot
actually since they highlight i assume its a different method of making them sco...
Nah, just some lovely patches to include them in the normal scoring loop
blazing pivot
i use a SMODS.score_card hook for whenever i do it in my mod and that goes per c...
There's a function? 👀
keen knoll
get a somewhat known streamer to play it probably
how lol
woven crag
There's a function? 👀
keen knoll
:(
woven crag
wheel of mods
formal orchid
like i said i shill my mod every chance i get
blazing pivot
[this hook](<https://github.com/borb43/Hypernova/blob/80ccc58c007cba2c0b761595a0...
Interesting
Tbh if I knew this function existed I would've tried it lol
formal orchid
but its been more than a year since i made my mod
blazing pivot
But I think the patches I wrote work sufficiently
woven crag
speaking of theres a link to my mod so uhh shilling go
formal orchid
keen knoll
keen knoll
it took me ages to come up with and code 30
im at 47
woven crag
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415395671241920592 discord keeps hiding the thread for me
theres like not a ton on latest release
but i have a ton of stuff ready for the next release
formal orchid
it took me ages to come up with and code 30
there would be arround 300+~ish if i kept doing vaulted jokers
blazing pivot
y'all are cracked lol
keen knoll
i have almost 50
woven crag
there will probably be 75 ish in my next release
formal orchid
im still proud of this
blazing pivot
also negative playing cards
they come with smods and are perfectly functional, though there is still a bug i should report once i figure out what exactly it is
blazing pivot
i've already reported a few but they keep on comin
keen knoll
there will probably be 75 ish in my next release
i should work on gtranslatro again,
woven crag
mayhaps
blazing pivot
yeah but they are quite broken
well save for this one bug left they seem to be functioning fine for me
so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
blazing pivot
im still proud of this
yappersville 🙏
woven crag
well save for this one bug left they seem to be functioning fine for me
broken as in balance
blazing pivot
2 negative legendaries is juicy tho
woven crag
the only source of negative playing cards in my mod is a hidden consumable
blazing pivot
broken as in balance
ah yeah fair enough lol
they're the main gimmick of my mod so they're somewhat common
blazing pivot
but i'm not very concerned with being perfectly in balance with vanilla so i think that's okay
you can have a few busted cards as a treat
woven crag
what
formal orchid
yappersville 🙏
😔
keen knoll
oh
woven crag
cryptid moment
full edge
nothing to add to this conversation except 350 jokers in Kino currently and only like 50 are bugged still, probably
blazing pivot
update 1.1 could never
blazing pivot
1 in 1.8e308 chance for the last banana to die
full edge
It shouldn't, haha. I've started to accept that the game kinda starts falling apart once you cross having 300 jokers available in a run
formal orchid
what wouldd you say about 165 consumables
forest knoll
what if you make a mod that's focused on consumables
something something high roller :3
blazing pivot
i have a joker that gives you tags for sold jokers depending on their rarity
if you sell a legendary to this joker, should the resulting tag be a haha funny easter egg or something actually gameplay-significant
prisma latch
man its fucked up that you gotta flat out build your own config tab ui if you want one
we need html for balatro ui
formal orchid
im trying to fix old parts of my code but i had to go for like 5 mins and now i completely lost
prisma latch
we need html for balatro ui
or just. anything more intuitive than what we have now
formal orchid
iont remember my progress
normal hollow
these are cool im sad nobody played this mod
forest knoll
what mod is this
forest knoll
oh nice
i'll download it :3
plush hound
something something high roller :3
the shill is crazy
forest knoll
it doesn't count as shilling if it's not playable yet :333
-# "merge my prs" -slengineerman
plush hound
it doesn't count as shilling if it's not playable yet :333
release the files
forest knoll
i mean technically it's "playable" in the sense that the github is public and up to date
it just needs you to download an open smods pr for it to function
latent crescent
Should I implement keybinds API? 
forest knoll
what would it do that SMODS.Keybind doesn't already do?
latent crescent
doesnt support mouse or wheel + you cant make combinations with any keys, only ctrl alt shift or smth + no mechanism to reassign or save (manual work)
forest knoll
i think it'd be good to have it as an smods PR
latent crescent
eh
i'll implement it for myself then
- no idea how I supposed to implement such complex thing in SMODS
forest knoll
mouse/wheel/combo support could just be an overhaul of SMODS.Keybind, and then (re)assigning keybinds could tag along in the existing config system by saving custom keybind objects to the config file when they're set
latent crescent
What about keybinds intersections?
Prevet assigning same button to multiple keybinds? It sucks, you cant assign enter to play a hand + cash out + leave shop + select blind
So you need to deal with it somehow
That's what I'm designing right now in this system
forest knoll
i mean if it can be part of this standalone mod i don't see why it can't be part of smods
ember flicker
im still proud of this
buckshot roulette joker
formal orchid
yes
latent crescent
i mean if it can be part of this standalone mod i don't see why it can't be part...
I'll maybe think about it
just yk, I seen few times people asking how to add own keybind to handy when you cant do it because controller not designed to handle it
formal orchid
fire
balmy lily
these are cool im sad nobody played this mod
i actually played it
safe to say i never got that joker
wait what do you mean you can win without the cheat items
normal hollow
wait what do you mean you can win without the cheat items
if you mean the last message you cant
it's just for errors
formal orchid
no more typos
formal orchid
fire
prisma latch
yippie
i will work on making it banner compatible now
my guess is it just overwrites the same function im overwriting
so ill just like. reimplement banner's code ig
orrrr i could convert it into patches. but im lazy and that would be a lot messier
storm forum
...probably could revisit this old thought of mine...
Putting "blind" in a "blind run".
woven crag
What if balatro but there wasnt anything
storm forum
for _, t in ipairs{G.P_CENTERS, G.P_TAGS, G.P_SEALS, G.P_BLINDS, SMODS.Sticker.obj_table, SMODS.PokerHand.obj_table} do
for k, v in pairs(t) do
v.no_collection = true
end
end
would do it. 😂
prisma latch
should also replace all atlases with solid black
storm forum
Though Red Deck persists through.
prisma latch
what the fuck is red deck
long hare
should also replace all atlases with solid black
better yet, solid white
storm forum
Every texture is Jimbo.
woven crag
Though Red Deck persists through.
Is the deck selection normal though?
storm forum
Is the deck selection normal though?
Every deck becomes Red Deck once you scroll.
prisma latch
lmao?????
woven crag
Amaing
storm forum
Otherwise, previous deck will peek through.
prisma latch
vscode just decided to fucking flashbang me
turned solid white for a sec
AH
IT DID IT AGAIN
ok so banners code is weird
main path
ok so banners code is weird
The codebase of doom and despair
So cursed that apparently vscode would rather flashbang you than show you the actual codebase
woven crag
Huh?
brittle urchin
This feels like a weaker Shortcut but I want this effect somehowwww
Maybe just staple this to superposition
prisma latch
nobody has ever proposed this
brittle urchin
in reference to what precisely?
forest knoll
your joker idea
(it's literally a toggleable feature in smods)
brittle urchin
ah. the fool I am
exotic oasis
A mod for selecting cards in a row instead of having to click each one?
prisma latch
wait its a toggle in smods now? lmao
brittle urchin
My personal opinion is giving it to superposition still. it needs that sauce
forest knoll
wait its a toggle in smods now? lmao
more specifically a function you can hook to enable the functionality under certain conditions, yea
prisma latch
i believe thunk has explicitly stated he Would Not Do That
its against the design philosophy to give a joker 2 mechanics
brittle urchin
I respect his opinion as a developer and I respect the opinions of those who disagree
forest knoll
SMODS.wrap_around_straight()
in smods it just always returns false but it's all set up so that if you hook it to return true everything works
brittle urchin
but we are in the forsaken modded zone
storm forum
more specifically a function you can hook to enable the functionality under cert...
🖐️ 'tis uses a hook involving it.
exotic oasis
What's the mod that lets you select cards in a row instead of having to click each one?
formal orchid
handy
brittle urchin
neat! samebrained
storm forum
Though-
brittle urchin
now we're thinking with portals
storm forum
🪠
keen knoll
what
plush hound
tangents could not compare with togapack
i want to be the guy but its me to ali's production
exotic oasis
What's the mod that lets you select cards in a row instead of having to click each one?
storm forum
...uh, duplicate message?
formal orchid
What's the mod that lets you select cards in a row instead of having to click ea...
i said handy
storm forum
tangents could not compare with togapack
I'd think of it as excelling in different fields/scopes.
formal orchid
already
storm forum
I think that's Discord being dumb and sending a duplicate.
Not the first time I've seen such.
formal orchid
idk
formal orchid
theres a great 5 minutes in between
storm forum
I've seen an exact same message being sent with a difference of 10 minutes between the two.
exotic oasis
i said handy
Mb ty
formal orchid
no worries
storm forum
tangents could not compare with togapack
-# You also can do actual art and shader stuff, at that... further proving my point that we excel in different fields. 🧑🎨
plush hound
-# You also can do actual art and shader stuff, at that... further proving my po...
truee true
stable juniper
i think i made this a little too strong lol
(it's fine, i'll just make previous hands only count in the same round)
Loser here absolutely did not help the balance
(Round only ends after final hand of round)
which went well with Target
storm forum
truee true
And you best not forget the mention on the injector release, so no discountin' yourself. 🫵
stable juniper
(Gains +5 Mult on final hand of round)
MmmmmJokers' Cheerleader makes an appearance here! she's rooting for the 35 Spades in my deck
forest knoll
i think i made this a little too strong lol
probably should reset if played hand ranks above previous hand
(not just if you break the chain in general, so you can take advantage of how much you've scaled if you can survive on high cards, but just can't scale it further)
stable juniper
hmm. to be honest i don't like resetting abilities
but i might
Phanta lacks them
storm forum
Bump base gained value, but also potentially divide it by amount of poker hands that are both not vanilla and secret should those be present. 🤔
stable juniper
right ^^
forest knoll
hmm. to be honest i don't like resetting abilities
i mean yea i kinda don't either, that's why i suggested not having it reset but also just not having it scale if you play the same hand as the last one
stable juniper
ah yeah it doesn't scale for the same hand
storm forum
I only have 3 Jokers that have value resetting... Skier and DPF are guaranteed ones.
Whilst this has a chance to reset... and the Chips gained are half of base Chips of the selected poker hand.
plush hound
i tried making a deck that resets all scaling value after beating a boss blind
i know its possible, i tried my best
no luck tho
storm forum
...that's a whole library of specific stats to reset...
storm forum
One way to do it would be to potentially introduce a specific context that is only ever called by your deck, then take_ownership of the vanilla items that reset their values under other conditions and perform the reset there for them to respond to said context.
-# That's all that comes to mind for me, anyway.
-# ...though that'd mean opt-in for other modded Jokers...
brittle urchin
Ok ok ok, ONE more random idea
latent crescent
weak
plush hound
-# ...though that'd mean opt-in for other modded Jokers...
ueah i figured
can someone make this blind
normal hollow
can someone make this blind
is it the 🤏 blind
brittle urchin
Slightly Bigger Blind
x1.51 base
normal hollow
i am making amber acorn 2
plush hound
is this JS
normal hollow
yes
normal hollow
what about this one (when you lose the blind you keep playing but you get the card in another area that cant be removed)
unable*
frigid mica
I’m sorry Gud, I didn’t know how goated you were.
stark hare
😵
fossil iron
thanks
formal orchid
i think i did something wrong
long hare
i think i did something wrong
the humble hermit:
sage reef
So do the achievements get disabled when I mod the game?
formal orchid
you can enable them via smods config
forest knoll
but by default yes they're disabled
sage reef
you can enable them via smods config
Wdym
sage reef
but by default yes they're disabled
So if I just got one mod or a qol the achievements going to be disabled
formal orchid
theres this
sage reef
So if I deleted the mods or deactivated them I can get the achievements back
formal orchid
you can get them even with mods
forest knoll
^ you don't have to delete the mods, you can go into the smods config and enable them at any time
formal orchid
im bad at explaining
formal orchid
np
hardy brook
Chat, how do you regain motivation to mod this game after you lose it
main path
Particles are underrated visual effects
Now that college is starting up for me, probably wont have as much time to work on coding my mod
main path
Chat, how do you regain motivation to mod this game after you lose it
Unfortunately from my experience, motivation is a difficult thing to chase intentionally
Its definitely possible, but since modding games in general is passion driven, i wouldnt worry about trying to force your mindset to get back into modding
hardy brook
Oh.
main path
Im not saying its impossible
hardy brook
What if you want to get back into it but just... don't feel like you can?
main path
Then go for it
hardy brook
meant to add the don't
woven orchid
if you are intentionally trying to get motivation then its not motivation its the desire to be productive i feel
hardy brook
fingers are typing faster than brain sometimes lol
woven orchid
idk i got bored of balatro modding for a while and i just stepped back from it and did more playing other games and not modding stuff and i just came back to it a few weeks later
albeit on a different project
hardy brook
Gonna be honest, I lost motivation after the initial argument that I honestly shouldn't have caused in a project. After that and then Ortalab's completion, I felt nothing ngl
It wasn't like I had a project to fall back on after Ortalab like i did when I finished Re;Shuffled
Like I want to do Parallel Update but at the same time I don't know if the way it's going is the right way
latent crescent
Chat, how do you regain motivation to mod this game after you lose it
- take a real break, including dont follow what's happening in balala space
- decide what exactly you want try to do. New mod? Rewrite something? Just cleanup? Patch? Few jonklers?
- cook
And all this points in while true
hardy brook
1. take a real break, including dont follow what's happening in balala space
2. ...
-
been doing other projects and drawing along with just IRL work. (last time I really TALKED was the 19th and then before that was back on new years eve, last modding thing a month back.)
-
I'm just stuck on that IG?
latent crescent
my method is: i'm watching balala content (streams is better) and make mods which fulfills a niche which I see
hardy brook
I mean I guess the only thing I can think of is that I'm just not happy?
I lost my motivation due to drama, and every time something major happens here, it's another thing of drama
latent crescent
then change community around you and continue doing what you're was already doing
hardy brook
Ruby's banning situation
Jen going after Mayhem's creator and wanting to get it erased or merged into their own mod
Joker Forge stealing assets that weren't theirs to use
latent crescent
friends rotation is a thing and thats okay
ignore/block people who make you feel out of track
hardy brook
Your right, but it just feels like I'm the one forcing myself out of track if anything
past lava
> Ruby's banning situation
> Jen going after Mayhem's creator and wanting to ge...
what assets did jf steal??
latent crescent
wtf
hardy brook
what assets did jf steal??
The shaders from Ortalab and from Smods itself (used for learning purposes only)
hardy brook
the ones specifically in Ortalab were removed (supposedly, idk if they actually did or not), but who knows about the SMODS ones
fathom gust
-# there’s a damn good reason why the “modding-chat” joker i had (xmult for every day without meltdown/drama) was set to -1e200
the ability was changed because
balancing
hardy brook
But yeah, I feel like i'm pulling myself away from something I thought I was enjoying
Which means 1 of 2 things:
- I'm my own worst enemy
or
- I'm trying to force myself to enjoy Balatro mod making when I really don't
latent crescent
if youre not enjoying modding process just dont do it unless it's necessary
you're not on job
hardy brook
Your right. I may be back in just to chat but I got something I should do
amber river
Which means 1 of 2 things:
1. I'm my own worst enemy
or
2. I'm trying to for...
do what you wanna do man, it's a hobby, not a job
hardy brook
Thinking a bit more, I think i know what FULLY killed my motivation to mod
like that nail in the coffin
amber river
what did bro
hardy brook
Joker Forge.
amber river
what's that
hardy brook
That online mod maker
past lava
what's that
jokerforge is pretty much scratch but for balatro modding
fathom gust
it uh
has quite the community i’ll just say
although that’s probably not the thing shinku is talking about so
amber river
Is it because it undermines the effort you put into manually programing your whole thing?
formal orchid
i forced my motivation back by working on cold beans
hardy brook
I thought Cold Beans would force my motivation back but it really didn't
latent crescent
next hotpot event good way to do balala modding in unique enviroment
Specifically in a team
if it will happen of course
(i'm not on hotpot server for a while so I have no idea)
hardy brook
That online mod maker
If anyone can make a mod with it, good or bad, what's the point in me trying? If slop's gonna be uploaded to the thread and push all the other interesting mods, why even bother with attempting in the first place. The slop mods would tarnish the idea of balatro modding to many others
old sphinx
Joker forge is so limitting in what it can do anyways, and Lua has applications beyond balatro modding (granted, the only other use I've found is TBOI modding, but there are others)
hardy brook
Okay but that doesn't change that it exists. It's not something you can just "Ignore and it'll go away" because Joker Forge still exists. It's done stuff that has caused some drama in stuff I worked on (aka the shader thievery from Ortalab)
winged prism
If anyone can make a mod with it, good or bad, what's the point in me trying? If...
We really suffer from lack of good mod hosting huh
long hare
rare/legendary joker idea:
1 in 5 chance to gain 1 Hand after playing a hand
even if you get a couple of oa6s, you still have to contend with deck out
normal hollow
how can i make this with jokerforge
haughty pier
how can i make this with jokerforge
magic
normal hollow
is this comprehensible
exotic belfry
> Ruby's banning situation
> Jen going after Mayhem's creator and wanting to ge...
First time hearing those last two, goddamn
normal hollow
the jokerforge one is them taking the shaders from the smods examples or something else?
winged prism
How does "Destroy highest scoring rank in Straight, gain half the chip value of cards destroyed this way" sound for a common
river mango
First time hearing those last two, goddamn
the context for this is here for anyone who wants it #1387407991896150036 message
normal hollow
the jokerforge one is them taking the shaders from the smods examples or somethi...
ah seems to be that, i wouldnt hold that against them its just a case of not reading in this case i think
winged prism
How does "Destroy highest scoring rank in Straight, gain half the chip value of ...
Okay unfortunate timing for the question sorgy
dire meadow
exotic belfry
the context for this is here for anyone who wants it https://discord.com/channel...
Just read through and this reeks of hypocrisy
incredible
normal hollow
first time we can invoke the fact smods mods have to be gpl3 compatible in a positive way
river mango
what makes me laugh even more is the fact that pwx was uploaded without gpl3 and mayhem was lmfao
exotic belfry
main path
Its been a little more than a day and pwx is already getting in hot water wtf
river mango
yep
river mango
i noticed it this morning and immediatly told my balatro friends because this needs to be seen
because i fear if it doesn't get the attention it deserves then Jen would get away with this atrocity of a demand
round pilot
exotic belfry
because i fear if it doesn't get the attention it deserves then Jen would get aw...
Valid concern
I am admittedly by no means a fan of Mayhem but this sets a really bad precedent
river mango
Exactly Astra
winged prism
Honestly I think modding rule 5 should be a global thing instead of just discord rules
But that would require official involvement ig
river mango
Exactly, a mod should not be able to be uploaded without proper liscence
exotic belfry
I mean technically any mod using SMODS is required to license because of GPL3
river mango
so all of them
exotic belfry
People just don't know that lol
winged prism
A
grand geode
the mod isn't hosted here so it isnt under server rules
but we can talk to the modding mod(singular) about banning pwx talk here since its unlicensed and shit
-# i need to add a license to lobcorp i keep forgetting
umbral pilot
fwiw pwx is not unlicensed, it's gpl3
grand geode
is it
river mango
it is hosted on a private discord server with a direct download rather than a github link
grand geode
then by gpl3 mayhem should be able to modify the mfkaa code..?
forest knoll
mfw jen still doesn't know how to use github lol
he does, he just doesn't like having pwx on github for some reason
winged prism
it is hosted on a private discord server with a direct download rather than a gi...
Wait why do we give a shit about polterworx then
grand geode
he does, he just doesn't like having pwx on github for some reason
he doesnt he uploads jencollection manually
winged prism
Like at all
exotic belfry
Wait why do we give a shit about polterworx then
Because Jen likes to impose his will on the rest of the community apparently
forest knoll
he doesnt he uploads jencollection manually
fair lol
umbral pilot
then by gpl3 mayhem should be able to modify the mfkaa code..?
yes
grand geode
yea so jen already lost this one
river mango
you ever wonder if Thunk is watching this chat
grand geode
no
exotic belfry
Nope
winged prism
Most definitely no
grand geode
he never checks modding
umbral pilot
gpl3 just isnt something that you can get out of, that's all im saying
exotic belfry
Good to know lol
umbral pilot
it's both the good and bad thing about that license
hard patio
you ever wonder if Thunk is watching this chat
thunk surely has enough will of life to check this channel
exotic shadow
accurate depiction of @umbral pilot
umbral pilot
wilson that was two years ago
exotic shadow
give me a bit to catch up with the chat
umbral pilot
fml your internet is slow
dusty token
a second licensing problem has hit the modding community
umbral pilot
there is no problem, it is a work that depends on smods and therefor it is gpl3
river mango
I mean we are just discussing the fact that jen walter came at the developer of mayhem for stealing code and gave him the choice to either join pwx or delete the mod
exotic shadow
gpl3 just isnt something that you can get out of, that's all im saying
we just need everyone who has contributed code to agree to a new license/remove all code for people that don't agree
river mango
I mean we are just discussing the fact that jen walter came at the developer of ...
oh and btw pwx is indev again
umbral pilot
I mean we are just discussing the fact that jen walter came at the developer of ...
context aside because I have no idea what's going on but there is no "code theft". you can get upset with each other but there are no enforcible demands, the entire system is gpl3.
plush hound
can i steal your strontium code
umbral pilot
there is wiggle room in terms of pure lovely mods - they can be licensed however way they want, but anything that touches smods must be gpl3
umbral pilot
can i steal your strontium code
of course you can
river mango
did you see the message? i linked it like way above
plush hound
oh hey, the potato man
grand geode
ok brb converting mfkaa to pure lovely
dusty token
ok yeah just checked the zip and the license is gpl3
river mango
you mean the zip that doesn't include almanac?
dusty token
its the pwx zip
river mango
the original?
dusty token
this one #1444172795067105281 message
oh my god don't include .git in the zip dammit
river mango
the one in downloads is the most up to date one i think
even if it does have it jen has absolutely no right to demand deletion of another mod for using code
dusty token
whatever
river mango
that server is a mess anyways
theres download links in like three different channels lol
round pilot
what happened with Jen this time
long kindle
I've been looking through this server and seen a couple times that modding on game pass is impossible and I'm curious as to the reasoning behind that; Currently I'm trying to find where the hell game pass stores my save files so I can try (and probably fail 😭 ) to recover a save file to a fixable bug
umbral pilot
#1458081113078497280 however mod compatibility is... unknown. The gamepass version of the game is closer to mobile than steam, funnily enough
long kindle
I'm poking through the save.manager.lua and I see it call the save.jkr and a bunch of other files I cannot see which is mildly frustrating -_-
umbral pilot
although frost might know something more
dusty token
gamepass has special saving mechanism
long kindle
Idrc about modding it since I have both versions, I just wanna get this save game back 😭
I save scummed on a booster pack double tag and kerblooey
long kindle
gamepass has special saving mechanism
fantastic -_-
long kindle
Is there any way for me to find my save or am I cooked
and if I am may as well take this as an opportunity to be enlightened on the inner workings of save mechanics bc I'm very curious
dusty token
Is there any way for me to find my save or am I cooked
if the game can somehow still access it you're not entirely
but if you need to manually access these files it requires much more in-depth look, all the files are most likely random hex ids
and i assume, if you modify it externally it will be overwritten by cloud save
river mango
mayhem shit has been sorted lol
long kindle
<#1458081113078497280> however mod compatibility is... unknown. The gamepass ver...
that's cool but I don't think there's anything about the save manager on here
umbral pilot
god xbgp is such a black box, I wish I could help you
the way that it mounts the save directory is so freaking strange
dusty token
ill try copy my last xbgp save, i lost it
long kindle
the way that it mounts the save directory is so freaking strange
yeah, I'm not super knowledgeable when it comes to low level programming, but I know my way around generally and this is foreign to me
like I'm looking at method calls that are calling things that just don't exist
dusty token
i think i lost the save file format too 😭
long kindle
I thought I was onto something when I saw STR_UNPACK but then I can't find meta.jkr which is the thing it's being called on so I'm just cooked
rain orbit
Never in my life have I struggled writing dialogue more than bizarro speech
long kindle
i think i lost the save file format too 😭
nooooooooooooooooooooooo 😭
rain orbit
Never in my life have I struggled writing dialogue more than bizarro speech
I'm not even sure if half of these are grammatically "correct"
hard patio
I'm not even sure if half of these are grammatically "correct"
Good thing these chips are fake
rain orbit
Bizarro speak
Me hate you = I love you type shit
It's why the win quips sound so negative, while in reality they're the best I can translate the vanilla quips into bizarro speak
dusty token
I thought I was onto something when I saw STR_UNPACK but then I can't find meta....
so you'll need to eval though, get_compressed_savegame("1", "meta.jkr")
if you use #1458081113078497280 it includes terminal which you can use to run and copy/write to external file
reading it rn directly is not possible, but i might make an eternal tooling sometime
rain orbit
Problem is I was never given translations of more complex sentences, so I don't know if "Looks like you weren't bluffing!" translates to "No look like you honest!" or "Look like you bluff" and so on
long kindle
so you'll need to eval though, `get_compressed_savegame("1", "meta.jkr")`
if you...
okay, translate to stupid
dusty token
so
winged prism
I'm not even sure if half of these are grammatically "correct"
Isn't "Looks like you weren't bluffing" and "Me think you honest" essentially the same thing
rain orbit
It's like peeing your pants on purpose
You go all your life learning how to not do it so it's difficult when you want to
long kindle
so you'll need to eval though, `get_compressed_savegame("1", "meta.jkr")`
if you...
okay so I installed the thing from here and ran it (despite every fibre of me telling me this was a virus 💀 ) and it said it put it in my balatro
rain orbit
If something here was a virus it'd be quickly discovered and booted
fathom gust
if that was the case crust would have been publicly executed
dusty token
i have no bad intention crust
rain orbit
"I'm the spy" head ahh
dusty token
but yeah if everything is installed properly open your balatro and press f1
long kindle
If something here was a virus it'd be quickly discovered and booted
yea that's why I trusted it I just come from games where people distributing rats is commonplace 💀
long kindle
but yeah if everything is installed properly open your balatro and press f1
oh swag and then just paste the command from above?
rain orbit
yea that's why I trusted it I just come from games where people distributing rat...
What
winged prism
It's like peeing your pants on purpose
You go all your life learning how to not ...
Not shitting my shirt accidentally
umbral pilot
remote access trojans
nasty stuff
but I wouldnt trust crust
frost is pretty great but crust is evil
long kindle
nasty stuff
yea I've had a couple friends get NUKED before lmao
dusty token
oh swag and then just paste the command from above?
lua love.platform.loadSaveGame("1", "meta.jkr") > meta.jkr
it should write to %appdata%\balatro-xbgp
long kindle
substitute 2 for 1 bc I have it in save 2 I'm assuming?
dusty token
yeah
long kindle
and that did what exactly?
dusty token
read 1/meta.jkr from save then write externally to %appdata%\balatro-xbgp\meta.jkr
long kindle
alr
and I get my save file from this how??? (sorry for the immense stupidity you're having to deal with)
dusty token
what do you want to do exactly, make a copy or modify it or something?
long kindle
yeah throw it in https://larswijn.github.io/BalatroReTag/ balatro retag to fix the skip tag bug
dusty token
also meta.jkr is just unlocks
dusty token
oh, you're looking for save.jkr
lua love.platform.loadSaveGame("2", "save.jkr") > save.jkr
win+r, then %appdata%\balatro-xbgp, you should see file explorer open with save.jkr
drag and drop the file there
long kindle
and what do I do to upload it to my game
also holy shit this is sick
insane work o7
dusty token
....🤔
long kindle
if i open my save in notepad its a hell of a lot of chinese and vscode doesn't recognize it
and yeah the website just doesn't do anything with it when I click choose file
dusty token
if i open my save in notepad its a hell of a lot of chinese and vscode doesn't r...
its compressed save file so yeah
you don't get the "save seems good" atleast?
long kindle
the page works for steam files and it gives me a "save seems good"
but with this I don't get anything
dusty token
im curious, can you upload the save.jkr here?
long kindle
dusty token
or in dm, whatever you feel comfortable
long kindle
idrc
rain orbit
Can someone proofread these please
long kindle
thanks so much for your help btw this is like breaking my brain
people are way too smart lmao
dusty token
long kindle
how tf
dusty token
the encoding is broken somehow
download it, then put it in %appdata%\balatro-xbgp with file name save-fixed.jkr, then run
cat save-fixed.jkr | lua love.platform.writeSaveGame("2", "save.jkr", input)
ooh cat hey that's linux stuff
dusty token
:)
long kindle
me when ape brain remembers the 5 minutes I spent doing picoCTF 💀
holy shit thank you so much
dusty token
is it fixed?
long kindle
yup!
dusty token
great
long kindle
now time for all that just for me to not get ecto or hand size 2 and still not nan 😭
keen knoll
ooh cat hey that's linux stuff
its called a pipe
plush hound
POLTERCHUD
wanton rapids
POLTERCHUD
what could she mean by this
fathom gust
very crude implementation of psi hypnosis
humble rampart
POLTERCHUD
why are you analogue horror
rain orbit
What would make sense as rekoj's nickname
Like vanilla joker's is jimbo
But bizarro logic doesn't take nicknames into account from what I know
Maybe something with an r I guess
storm forum
-# Richard.
rain orbit
umbral pilot
roy
humble rampart
But bizarro logic doesn't take nicknames into account from what I know
wouldnt most people get that jimbo backwards is bizarro jimbo though
idk the bizarro nomenclature but i think most ppl would get it
rain orbit
The only backwards name is rekoj becaus I couldn't think of anything better
Actual names are [last name] [first name], like mccready gary
But idk how nicknames would work in bizarro logic
spare token
glornk
humble rampart
But idk how nicknames would work in bizarro logic
yeah but wouldnt most people understand name backwards is bizarro
amber river
judging you people
keen knoll
hey guys
rain orbit
yeah but wouldnt most people understand name backwards is bizarro
It'd be like bizarro's name being namrepus instead of bizarro
keen knoll
joker ideaa
buzzy beetle (uncommon)
if played hand contains a straight, retrigger all cards backwards after scoring```hello candycane from neonflame
dusty token
judging you people
judgement
humble rampart
It'd be like bizarro's name being namrepus instead of bizarro
ithink you're overesgimating how much someone who sees the name will think abt it honestly
bojim
amber river
```
buzzy beetle (uncommon)
if played hand contains a straight, retrigger all c...
sounds pretty good
fathom gust
```
buzzy beetle (uncommon)
if played hand contains a straight, retrigger all c...
pretty good idea actually
amber river
have fun vro
rain orbit
Wait I just found something where characters are called batzarro and grundzarro
So by that logic maybe jimzarro
Or jimbozarro
humble rampart
Wait I just found something where characters are called batzarro and grundzarro
wheres that from
rain orbit
I think the grundzarro result is from that bizarro virus thing and the batzarro one is a bizarro-esc clone of batman
ornate bone
rain orbit
do you think anyone would get that reference instead of naming him like
It's more accurate to the actual bizarro naming scheme it seems
humble rampart
yeah but like i think theres less people that care abt the naming scheme than theres people who would say "oh! his name is jimbo but backwards! good show, i say! good show!"
and have a gay ol time
like me
or i guess thats a bit thought terminating isnt it
rain orbit
I just found a goldmine of grammatical references
I was so off to the point I feel accidentaly racist
wide mulch
> Ruby's banning situation
> Jen going after Mayhem's creator and wanting to ge...
what assets? if it was about shader mod code I thought the examples provided by smods docs were free to use because they are examples. also those have been removed the second someone mentioned it
(yes I sometimes type joker forge in to see what's going on lol)
tacit cove
ive been making a mod that adds prestige layers to balatro and i want to add compatibility by locking other mods' jokers behind certain prestiges and rebirths and etc etc, is that something i should ask permission from mod authors before doing?
azure dagger
ive been making a mod that adds prestige layers to balatro and i want to add com...
I would think to get permission first, but again, I did a lot of crossmod stuff with zero permission from the other authors in mine.
Also, does anyone know what deck skin / mod this is?
exotic belfry
immaculate
fathom gust
evil ass white card
rain orbit
Holy text wall
hard plank
I lost my motivation due to drama, and every time something major happens here, ...
then you're not gonna have motivations ever if you treat every drama as important to you
polar oyster
Holy text wall
Hmm, you gave me an idea, I also have to create dialogues.
You need make one text is in reverse order
rain orbit
Hmm, you gave me an idea, I also have to create dialogues.
It'll be way easier for you that's for sure
polar oyster
You need make one text is in reverse order
Like sseccus thaW!
hard plank
:/
rain orbit
Like sseccus thaW!
That's not how bizarros talk
polar oyster
b
Wait if you change tutorial text, it possible add rekoj instead of base in tutorial, where you need buy joker*
rain orbit
It's possible to change the joker in the win/lose screen too
granite forum
does octagon red seal just stop the card from triggering
honest zephyr
idea...
binding of isaac themed mod..
-# i'm sooo original...
-# there's no way that somebody's made that before...
angel and devil deal packs...
forest knoll
plenty of mod content based on binding of isaac, but the only dedicated mods based on it (that i'm aware of) either only added jokers or were just a tarot texture reskin. plenty of room for creativity
also like nothing is original and you shouldn't let a mod existing stop you from making your own vision anyway :3
fathom gust
drawing jokers just to never fucking use them in a mod
honest zephyr
i might pull it in the direction of how ut/dr does the jokers
like some jokers are based on places instead of just characters and items and stuff
if i made jokers based on places should i just have it be the name of the place or have it be the name of the song in the ost (or the name of the replacement song in a tboi ost replacement mod)
i could call the basement joker "Six Feet Under" (excelsior ost reference.. heh...) or i just name it "Basement"
honest zephyr
😭
i'm not doing the fucked up joker effects
+7 mult, or +9 mult and the card self destructs!
forest knoll
would you rather have unlimited joker but no mult
or mult, unlimited mult
but no mult
wanton rapids
no more mult...
hard plank
+7 mult, or +9 mult and the card self destructs!
+6 mult but occasionally +1 extra mult
honest zephyr
i could call the basement joker "Six Feet Under" (excelsior ost reference.. heh....
taking this as a moment to say:
i LOVE the excelsior ost replacement mod
rain orbit
Unlimited chips but no mult or unlimited mult but no mult
honest zephyr
inexorable (cathedral theme) takes me to a different dimension whenever i hear it
forest knoll
no more mult...
nomoremult always reminds me of one of my mod concepts that just has nomoremult and nomorechips as boss blinds
hard plank
hi meta
forest knoll
hi aiko
honest zephyr
i might pull it in the direction of how ut/dr does the jokers
like some jokers a...
all the characters are decks
isaac's deck makes you start with d6, maggy's deck makes you start with yum heart and an extra hand, you get the picture
the tainted decks would use their alternate name, i guess you could call it?
instead of tainted isaac's deck, it's Deck of The Broken
woven orchid
nomoremult always reminds me of one of my mod concepts that just has nomoremult ...
funnily enough this is in a mod already
astronomica has 2 boss blinds which just temporarily delete chips or mult
though it is pre-scoring_calculation so it is bound to be a little buggy these days
forest knoll
astronomica is irrelevant and doesn't count /j
but yea i figured i wouldn't be the first to have them as blinds
woven orchid
woww @zenith loom can you belieeevee this girl
zenith loom
woww <@854953603911385088> can you belieeevee this girl
she is right tho 😭
im a lazy bum so astronomica is dead
hard plank
im a lazy bum so astronomica is dead
riley
woven orchid
she is right tho 😭
you should playtest my mod if you are getting back into balatro
woven orchid
im a lazy bum so astronomica is dead
i will bring it back just like how ruby brought back vallkarri 
fathom gust
holy shit +score
forest knoll
xscore too
woven orchid
https://github.com/Steamodded/smods/pull/1167
its fine aikoyori
xscore when held in hand sounds insane
fathom gust
finally pk ground doesn't have to be janky!!!!!!!!!!!
opaque python
xscore too
yes please
honest zephyr
what am i doing
hard plank
xscore when held in hand sounds insane
for those who need it
this might be my first gameplay facing changes
but it will not be my last
hard plank
joker that balances mult with money
wanton rapids
joker that balances score and chips
actually this could be kind of interesting idk
woven orchid
wouldnt that just be insanely busted
winged prism
Joker that balances rounds and antes
In vanilla ease_round() is used twice
And one of those two cases is the debug menu
winged prism
The only use is to get big antes
Balancing rounds with anything just sounds funny to me
I'm glad I'm not actually acting on "haha that would be funny" too much
One Tangents is more than enough
For some reason I thought that ids for face ranks are strings
Wtf am I on
long bobcat
STANLEY PARABLE<3
winged prism
Evil ass cat
dire meadow
Evil ass cat
peak mod!?
winged prism
peak mod!?
I hate spriting so fucking much
dire meadow
I hate spriting so fucking much
why is yomi looking at me liike that
winged prism
But also despite the name it isn't Azuma themed mod, I just want to cook up 10 jokers before I drop the first pack
dire meadow
rigged
winged prism
The idea is that every 0.X.0 version is about whatever the fuck media I'll think about
So 0.1.0 is like
Jimbo & Azuma! ig??
Yotusba
winged prism
why is yomi looking at me liike that
She's on a diet excuse her
What was the chapter where Yotsuba was a milkman...
dire meadow
She's on a diet excuse her
do i look tasty or smth!? 😨
winged prism
👀
dire meadow
winged prism
Why are they going to undertale
dire meadow
Why are they going to undertale
lore reasons
winged prism
What was the chapter where Yotsuba was a milkman...
Milk joker that spill chips when moving to another joker slot....
winged prism
Milk joker that spill chips when moving to another joker slot....
It also technically would have a Yomi-synergy and Tomo-anti-synergy which is funny
winged prism
lore reasons
Well isn't that some kind of story of Undertale huh
ember flicker
is this really a legendary... (that's a comma btw)
115 kilobytes
ember flicker
why did u precise the comma then
balmy lily
number go up's best friend
winged prism
is this really a legendary... (that's a comma btw)
Damn 115kb is pretty low for a game
dire meadow
why did u precise the comma then
number_format does that
and that already runs on numbers in descriptions
ember flicker
no i mean why did u precise its a comma
dire meadow
no i mean why did u precise its a comma
it can be seen as a .
ember flicker
if it doesnt act like one
ember flicker
close
dire meadow
in america the number seperator between groups of three digits is ","
ember flicker
thats like the decimal comma
dire meadow
true
winged prism
thats like the decimal comma
That's the case only in the most of the world😔
full edge
is this really a legendary... (that's a comma btw)
It doesn't disable boss blinds, tbh, don't know if it deserves to be legendary
full edge
wat de neuk
Dutch?
ember flicker
That's the case only in the most of the world😔
must be the orange guy's decision
balmy lily
yeah but number go means up this joker becomes stronger
winged prism
must be the orange guy's decision
I don't think orange guy affected this stuff anyhow, this shit is ancient
dire meadow
is this really a legendary... (that's a comma btw)
🤔
