#🏆・jimbos-invitational
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I was just about to pitch this
Stackable
might actually work (numbers edited)
Taking a skip makes all blinds permanently larger
We're going to be living in a different universe when evab is done
I feel like permanence is something better left to vouchers
permanent +1 hand is too strong
but permanent bonus something is the correct idea
that feels like a bit too much in the other direction imo
Next let’s remove the cap from the money doubler /j
permanent bonuses or optionally-permanent bonuses
I mean +3 hands/discards seems fair rn
they are weak but they're meant to be one round boosts
How about remove 5 cards from your deck
If you select them
Nobody ever takes these
Otherwise it’s just worse Immolate
ah
How does +1 Hand Size compare to +1 Hand?
I think hand size is probably more powerful
essay incoming, should i wait for people to finish this thought
yes
+1 Hand feels more powerful to me, but it's really close
Nah I think we are on the same page with brainstorming big balance change ideas
We can do that later
go ahead evab! ship us away
🚢
I agree Tags are great in concept, because breaking one of the normal roguelike gameplay cycles for a risk is very cool and can add a lot of tension to a run while being an experience not offered in other games. That being said, breaking a normal roguelike cycle is also one of the reasons why designing and polishing such a system is really difficult - there are no already established conventions we can follow, even loosely, because we've seen them work in other games.
Here's what you have to take into account with this skip tag system:
You are missing a shop.
- No Jokers to improve your build.
- No packs, which are already limited to 1 per round.
- No more of the voucher you were offered if you skip Big Blind.
- Less use of shop is less fun in the shop.
You are missing a round of play.
- No money.
- No scaling your jokers/deck.
- Less rounds played is less fun in those rounds.
This is SO MUCH STUFF to lose in this system. A ridiculous amount. So much of the game revolves around going to the shop, and a decent amount from playing the rounds. Skip tags have to make up for ALL OF THIS somehow - and all of the things I miss out on are exactly what goes through my mind when evaluating whether I take them.
This is basically the root of the issue, great analysis
So what if the tag gives you something that you are specifically hoping for in all those missed opportunities?
Like a Polychrome for example
that could be an avenue of approach
Is that when it feels good? Is that why it feels good?
Or the spectral tag
That's the same thing - a rare shop find that you can guarantee at a cost
polychrome to me is offering me something that the shop often struggles to give, a little bit of extra power ceiling
Xmult is great like that
foil/holo? no
Is that the design idea that these tags should be trying to fulfil then?
Some of the tags do - most don't
i think that is one of multiple ways it could approach the issue
What other ways?
another way is to somehow tie up a bunch of shop/round value into a single tag, which would take a really strong idea to accomplish
and maybe having a variety is good too
Also the fact that the limited number of rounds means skipping a round now = skipping your best future round
Isn't this more relevant for high score hunting?
depends how much you're keeping pace already
Your best round doesn't matter if it's good enough at the end of 8 antes
i could get 1400 to beat BB 2 but if i skipped i'd be short for Boss 2
Same mentality also applies to having enough score to beat the Ante 8 boss
the money tags for example, sacrificing shop/scaling for better economy
Yeah that seemed like an easy one to add actually
(also hafu has 2 poly hacks right now 😳)
like the economy tag seems like it's in a good spot
i agree! i like that there's more than one and they work slightly differently
economy tag is funny because it does actually give back some of that missed shop value...because it gives you the opportunity to buy more back from the shop
on that note we could combine coupon and d6?
$40 is a lot of value - do you think it represents more than the lost opportunity cost?
miss a shop but make it easier to buy down the line
$40 sounds like it's in the ballpark
like the $15 tag when a boss is defeated was a 'sometimes take' for a lot of people
$40 feels too big to me
i wouldn't take it if i had a ton of econ already, but that's just a situational
i would wager $15 was considered a sometimes take because people remember taking it in ante 1, the most played ante
that one's good to get yourself going again if your econ is falling behind (or in ante 1 lol)
but past ante 2 im never taking
What if it added $15 per ante?
now we're cooking
Before we go further though
maybe a bit much but better than flat
Do changes like these address the issue
don't know, but it's another step in the right direction i think
For this one tag, it does
imo
And the reason for that is that you can imagine multiple scenarious throughout a run where you would actually prefer that over the missed round value?
i think it's really hard to tell when an idea would solve those listed issues without testing since this system is so unique
Of course
But it's still important to pick a direction before I steer the ship that way
it's a slow ship
$10 would suck to skip for ante 1, but maybe it could be $5 + $10*Ante
If the problem is opportunity cost, convert all that opportunity into a dollar value.
It works for me
IS WHY it was correct for GLUK to take the Justice over the $50 Temperance
For ante 1, how much value does a single shop/round bring?
probably not much
First blush - $12
ties back into our recent conversation on building up econ early game and how you can just ignore the shop for a few rounds
pulling a number out of the ether
I don't think this is wrong
that's what i meant
Okay, let's test that. Would you skip for a free holo even steven
just worded badly
here's the formula: divide the ante base score req by 25 to get the cash equivalent :)
300/25 = 12!
yes if early game
oops ping
don't think about any ante past 1
mfw endless mode
the holo even steven as a skip reward
ante 1? probably. i think that carries through all of ante 2
Okay because that is about 12 smackers
tags being locked to certain ante thresholds helps the problem out
In Ante 1, I wouldn't skip for Holo Steven because I can get the same value from garbage Jokers
minus their cost
How close is it for you
🤔
Holo Steven on abandoned, maybe
What about a holo business card
hmmm
For a random unknown Holo, I would never take.
For a random but known Holo, I would take the ones I like to build around and would do so even if not Holo.
What else is about $12
i'd be intrigued enough by a free random holo to test it several times
A free voucher
the edition being on a random joker does have the problem with being disappointing sometimes
voucher im skeptical for some reason
wait, I'm not done
I would never take, but I could see a lot of people taking it
and feeling good about it
Two uncommon jokers
despite they have long term value
oh, probably because i have a similar opportunity in the shop already
what about a free voucher?
i can look at the shop for a voucher AND other things
All I am trying to do is determine if $12 is the right figure for ante 1
Not to actually come up with skip ideas
maybe ten dollars?
ante 1 i would skip for a known holo joker
enough to buy most non editioned jokers, packs, vouchers, etc
I think $12 is probably a good ballpark to shoot for
Max money you can get from a round + the cost of a reroll
update: hafu 11 mil
ooooooooooo
i got an ad break right when she started that hand, odd todd wailing sobbing image
lol
same lmao
i have missed EVERY single one live so far
this is much harder to me
to estimate
My guess is $20
same
there's too many variables to get an accurate number just thinking about it for me
And ante 3 my guess would be like $23
🤔
because shops are less valuable
the longer you play
You need specific things that tags might offer
on the contrary, i think ante 3 is where things really start getting good
In Ante 1, it doesn't matter to me how much each shop contains; I'm not buying any of it.
In Ante 2, it starts to matter, cause now I'm buying all of it
Ante 3 is where my economy starts to come into play and must consider missing out
hmmmm
Like, by Ante 3, I have an econ Joker that I didn't have in Antes 1 and 2
Hafu has a strong run into Cerulean
So why would ante 3 shops be worth more than ante 2?
Is it enough though?
No worries
This should just be for the comp
No you are good
we should move
Please keep updating about Hafu!
I'm watching her contemplate
the swashbuckler conundrum
I love that swashbuckler has give and take now
2.9 mil
Morning
morning ☕
ballpark some scores
I just saw scootties big hand. Otherwise
2nd malf
3rd hafu
4th will
5th frost
6th dan
dan played 3 glass cards because "why not" and successfully cracked none of them lmao
30-100million range?
oof someone's optimistic
punch that sidewalk
that was near the beginning
ive been thinking about which jokers that could be switched out for the public demo, and i have some candidates and arguments
Out
- Business Card. We already have Reserved Parking for money from faces, and we had BC in the previous demo anyway
- Trio/Order/Tribe. There's plenty of XMult in this version, and these are the least interesting, plus they take up three whole rare slots
In
- Sock and Buskin. Face synergy to make the total face synergy jokers equal after Business Card is out, plus retriggers are just really fun
- Satellite. There's very little celestial/planet synergy, so here's a cool candidate for one, plus a bit more synergy for Bull, which is niche
- Bootstraps. A good +Mult scaling joker to go with all the XMult and economy jokers.
- One more planet synergy card, but I'm not sure what for this one. Maybe the unrevealed spaceship joker lol
every raid so far has been raiding one of the players with the message "[their score]???"
very wholesome
Skoottie just did a high card build for the lols
hafu with the pareidolia/business
When did Steel revert back to old steel 😮
recently :)
Well I'm off to a 7.10am appointment then I can properly catch up 😄
AND reserved parking lmfao
Ya this hafu run could pop
Hafu is about to go off this run this is a great start
Bets in now. I'm going 68 milli
make it 69
The jokes just can't be that easy
make it 71 >:(
tbh watch it be like 300k
$68 :(
gaming
also something I've noticed
a lot of the people like to take the +4 suit jokers when they can and go flush
which def isn't optimal but ig it's just an easy way to pick a strat and stay with it?
will has a negative banana
i feel like those are kinda weak
even steven is a little less than half a deck
and suits are 1/4
hafu's build is ridiculous
bull not getting the money bonus?
ye
Yeah that's known
ah okay
It's more complex than I hoped
uh oh 😳
thats what i meant lmao
ah lol
mixed up the word
thank you
anytime
skootie got poly hack
the rich get richer
he ded tho
Hufu is on a good run
oh shes still in ante 4
she has so much time left to get this thing going even harder
Hafu Hafu Hafu
full house fives full of sixes probably best bet atm
If that natural poly red seal had been compatible with hack it would’ve already been over
YOOOOO
another red seal lol
Deja vu AND glass AND a 5
she HAS red seal on glass!!!
sheesh
hack compatible!!!!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this could be the run
This has big potential
I’m talking about ante 2 here
drift compatible!
she's going sicko mode
This still is huge but it might be close against Skoottie
she has all of ante 5 to dupe them
be the devil
ope
use devil on the very last hand
woah
h o l y
WHAT
BRAINSTORM
BRAINSTORM
This is goingto be it
chat this is the run
it’s over
it's so joever
🧠 🌩️
oh wow
I hope cerulean bell doesn't fuck up the big run
maybe you just get the scoring done ante 5?
Will she go for cerulean? Skoottie didn’t…
find out next time on dragon ball z
ante 5 attempt is defo safer
Seems like the bottleneck here is deck manip once they get glass/red seal right
yeah getting the dupes and thinning
yeah and getting glass/seal early
she's gonna throw by not playing Flush Five 😭
I mean level 8 full house tho
how is flush 5 better with 150x14 base again?
Extra Glass is huge because double Hack
there were more than 3?
She has 5
It’ll be close I think
the big hand shall be bell
ehhh
I dunno Jim
😭
woah
WHAAAAT
29mil
no justice
29 mil
omg
NO BREAKS
dang
One more chance
SHE HAS A CHANCE
ONE MORE SHOT
no breaks
idk
I’m rooting for her
one more glass
oh boy the glass
YOOOOOOO
Justice ;)
poly glass six with red
ooh
LETS GOOO
that justice is gonna be hard to use right with bell
nooo
SMART
Blue seal clutch
a wild dog appeared
omg this is a minefield
OMG
!!!
POG
wait maybe
it'll be close
Skootter didn't trust in Todd
Skoottie had a lot of Xmult jokers too
🥁
my guess is 75 mil
Skootter had two obelisk at x9 each
oof right..
we believe
Skootter also played his hand on the second to last round because he knew the Bell would ruin it
nooooooooo
F
lmao
59 mil
F
F
F
Oh no
F
F
F
F
she is so obsessed
F
I think she will get it
Shes having fun
her econ game is way better than Skootter
Gotta love her determination
I have no idea what full send temp means in this context, I don't even want to know
i am 100% missing her high score tonight. i have to go to bed with my recent insomnia lmao
double fool deck is called the magic deck, right?
did no one beat skoots score yet?
not yet
not yet
we had it
and then we dropped it
Heya, just woke up to see skoottie has 145 mil
What the hell
What kind of build did he have??
no steel strats at all right? I haven't seen much
nope
I keep preachin'
Do they know red seal works with it?
I told Skoottie and Frost
Dan wasn't ready for that
black horse, coming up from the rear, Dan
Skoottie has a good point in Hafus chat
cerulean bell is like the worst boss for this contest
yea
although any final boss is pretty bad
it's really evil for this specific scenario
the 8x ante base boss wouldve been the best-case scenario
I like it for this contest specifically
the risk/reward of
going for the max out early, or getting an extra shop at the cost of facing the Bell
oh yeah violet vessel
bell is more interesting to watch :)
tru
The contest would've been more akin to the game itself if it was scored by winning with the fewest possible cards/hands played
and I had that on the board
Like we discussed for daily run leaderboards
It’s like the killscreen in Tetris competitions - how far can you push a losing battle in order to play the exact hand you need (or clear as much lines as you need)?
I understood that reference
same here
we all saw the youtube videos
yep
Thank ya
Man that's gonna be one hell of a score to beat
yep
They also both rely partially on RNG, as the pieces you get are also really important in NES Tetris
However I think what makes Cerulean Bell frustrating is that it’s much more random, especially when you aren’t trying to prepare for it and are fixated on a high score build
The lack of a 2 round lead-in hurts a bit (although they know it's coming) as does the different objective of scoring high instead of just winning
It does? Well I guess it makes sense
Though unless the steel card effect has something like "can be retriggered" written to it's description, people won't even think about it being possible
i just noticed that scores right now would be way higher if DNA existed
cryptid is the best card-dupe in this version
People are using Death and Cryptid instead
Something like that seems like a feature more than a bug
yep
If i win this thing I get a skoottie joker, right?
Agree or disagree:
Hafu's success in these late hours despite not having as much previous experience as Skoottie
is a product of how "readable" the game is
oh hi skoottie
👋
the big man himself
agree
Oh it's the guy
im just here to get justice for baseball man, make him 3x
i could see a baseball card buff yeah
You want me to juice the ball player?
exactly
juice him
That sounds about right
like to at least X2
🍹
I heard from malf that skootie cheated
put a green alien in the game
alien joker - 'same ability as baseball man but just better'
Mandatory joker drug testing incoming
IT DOES?
Also holding a baseball bat
also in uniform
jimbo is on so many different things
2x mult for each joker owned
?
X1.5 mult for each tag you have
🤔
🤔
also hi skoottie
(unprocced only)
i like that, I do be having like 8 tags because I never take anything lol
makes sense or it's throwback but better
double tags go brrr haha
We just had a massive discussion about tag changes after watching and analyzing a bit
I have tags on the brain
I really like the tags, I think the tag deck is my favorite but people keep telling me its bad
i think theyre just so varied in power level
its not as good for a highscore hand
like some i never take and some are like always take
If you aren't going for high score only I think it's more fun
i think tag is so so RNG reliant
its a wacky one
everything is RNG reliant
and wacky is fun
I think tag deck will go wild in seeded though
oh for sure
Oh yeah
Especially when people sift through a few trillion seeds to find what they want
yeah i just mean its surely a make-or-break situation realistically
(you)
whens pvp coming in the pipeline
lmao
Hey, just like how there's a "copy leftmost joker ability" joker card, is there one for the right most side?
skip to make your opponent suffer
SAP style async multiplayer???
^
I have thought about an async multiplayer mode
there is blueprint which is copy directly to the right
with irl betting mechanics
There’s really cool design space though
Imagine playing both runs separately and then for the boss blinds you do better if you get more points than your opponent
Wait, this sounds like something else…
like lego fortnite
Have you heard of poker?
What would happen if blueprint and the other joker were the only jokers you had 🤔
nothing
they would wear each other's hats
the dev confirmed it
Damn
dog jealous
game too fun
hear me out, dnd joker, every time its anywhere from 0x - 4x
like randomly?
offbrand misprint 🤔
Misprint but goated
yeah like a d20, there are 20 things it can hit
doesn't hit x4 tho, 5% chance to get x8 instead
Misprint but with crit
then misprint art could go to a random 0-4X joker
ooh
random encounter
misprint already has random from 1-20 so the d20 flavour fits so well
when cool blueprint edition 👀
misprint with critical success and critical failure
Oops! All 20s
it has a word popup, too

on a 1 you just lost instantly
sleep well!
sleep well
🚢
all the new jokers look very cool
"You had 40 gold on round 1" -dog
"I've played enough games to know it wasn't good enough" -Hafu
lol
theyre on to something
lol get some rest
based
lmao
Wait what? I thought this was the game about pegs and orbs?
nono, this is the game about slot machines
Where's the dash mechanic smh
Used to love watching the NLSS (Nothernlion Live Super Show) when Hafu was on. Fun to watch her play Balatro
Im surprised to see holagram have an animation while higher tier cards dont
wait what this isn't about backpack inventory management?
I kind of like the juxtoposition (big word for the day)
Yeah, but these are straight fire
Loving the new artwork
ooh
an underdog in the poll
she's easily ascended to my favorite competitor
ahahahahaha
go to bed skootter
I don't know much, but I know that Hafu knows card games and is very competitive
im surprised she was an underdog, probably best strategy game player out of everyone
yep
she's got the "restart for any reason" grindset
thats when the magic starts to fade haha
Dog is so excited about Purple Seal, Holographic, Steel Card from Standard pack
Hafu is so over it LOL
lol
She's so determined
I believe
Hafu was on NLSS?????
Murph,
Hafu has been on an absolute tear
She beat nl 4-1 in champions of fire so nls chat asked "hafu when* for weeks until he invited her on the nlss and everyone loved it
Really? I just woke up by accident what's the scores look like?
second place is 59 mil, off by only x3 Mult
Welp well see how things shake outin the morning. Back to bed!
later dooder
Great game @split flax
Hafu on 2x Hack again
Yep, saw it too
15 hours, goin strong
Idk why put glass on 4 there ngl, on 2 for the 5oak could be stronger
I haven't been watching the whole time
It was in the same shop, from tarot pack
Business card is the only economy card this demo? That's tough
Parking
?
When you play a hand, you get money for Face Cards Held
you get money every hand not just end of round
Oh
Seance also technically works
Vagabond is blocked from giving you money, but it does give you a ton of value.
It's still way weaker than 8 Ball, but 8 Ball is off the charts.
In this build, it's so hard to get Arcana Packs, Vagabond is actually very potent.
It gives you something money literally can't buy.
Yep, think so too
Parking is uncommon, meaning business card is like the only thing for most of the runs
yeah, is why Hafu has latched onto it
Hey, would you rather have
2 Fools
or
6 Hanged Man
I'm surprised pareidolia made it in, but I guess it makes sense with other jokers available
6 hanged man is playing abandoned
Sock and Buskin was supposed to be in but Thunker made a whoopsie
will probably be patched in before the demo goes public
O, that's cool
yeah, Thunk asked earlier
if two Fools is OP for Magic deck
It's hard to tell, u also get crystal ball, but with so little arcana/celestial packs it feels annoying, you have to hold onto them for a while
Maybe if fools are negative
😹
Magic deck is now yellow deck
we're talking about in the full release
in which you get to choose between Abandoned, Magic, and Plasma
I was talking about selling the fools
Sell the voucher
Perkeo alert
POLYYY
whats her build rn straight flushes?
YOU CAN ADD DOUBLE ENHANCEMENTS
Finally, I have some time to watch
A card can only have one enhancement (mult, glass, stone, etc), one edition (foil, holographic, polychrome), and one seal (red, blue, gold, purple)
One Edition, One Enhancement, One Seal
Thats still cool though, she just had a poly bonus chip 3 of hearts
surprised all 4 suit jokers are here, that's like 1/10th of the joker pool
It's past my bedtime
I just came back, how has Hafu been streaming for 16 hours
welcome back, my guy
is this what Sisyphus feels
Hafu has advanced to 2nd through 7th place lol
multi millions so many times
Stupid, you seein' this cash money?
bruh, watched couple of hours, went to bed, woke up, did some chores, yet hafu is still streaming
was she really playing balatro all that time?
i slept for like 10 hours how tf
Yep, I did
no breaks
im glad dev got her to play in the event, she was so addicted to the demo
oof, unbuyable holo(?) Hit the Road first shop
This is making me so excited for the demo release on the 25th, Hafu is a machine 😅
I think hafu made a grave mistake by not sleeping, I see her do quite a few blunders
no telescope in the demo ?
now it's probably too late to stop
so few planet packs
Yeah, planet packs are very rare now
I think with so many joker & card packs, you can still win consistently tho
its lowest difficulty, and the fact its only 5 antes makes it even easier
feels like the right planet balance is somewhere between this demo and the previous one.
The weird part is that you can get 2 buffoon/standart packs, but only 1 arcana/celestial
I feel like it's a bug... or experimental feature
I think I've seen a shop with 2 celestial pack on hafu's stream a few minutes ago
oh rly? I guess I missed it
I want to say buffoon packs should be a bit more rare, because we already see more jokers in shop than tarot/planets
but then in full game with 150 jokers, that might hurt you
Idk if you want to open a lot of standart packs in a normal run either
agree on buffoon packs
I think standart packs chance should be cut, honestly
hm I don't think hafu is gonna pull off anything great in the time that's left, she's gonna start making more and more mistakes if she doesn't sleep
yeah, that's unfortunate
Also imo she went all in too hard on one strat and isn't getting it anymore
she had some amazing runs earlier
Me in the email: Although the tournament lasts for 24 hours, make sure you take breaks, rest and continue to have fun! Nothing is more important than your well-being.
Hafu: Hold my polychrome red seal glass 3
💀
hafu vod now public Pog
I want standard packs to stay because it's a reliable way to add cards into the deck. This is something you can't do with tarot, tarot is mostly about keeping the same number or thinning the deck
And I like the idea that thinning isn't always the best strategy (not sure if that's true in the demo though)
who needs well being when you can play card game for 16 hours amirite
Big deck only works well with hand size
there's only 1 hand size item in this demo
-> deck thinning is the way
there are plenty (if you include negative size 🙂 )
fourth of the spectrals affect hand size
Buffoons packs are strange because they're like a better reroll option. I'm not sure seeing so many jokers is necessary, even in the full 150 jokers version
I kinda think it is
cuz it also helps you to skip the potential dupes, if you have 2 jokers in shop you dont want, if you open the buffoon pack you are not seeing them there either
looks like someone who havent played the og playtest with 90 jokers
It's hard to evaluate in the context of this tournament because they're playing for highscore, not just winning the run. So you have stricter joker requirements
you are right
i thought that seals also reduced hand size for some reason
what time is it for yall rn
3pm
8am
5:30 am 😭
8:30am
Also, I just realised that the hold R restart animation uses the card back of the first available deck. I always felt it should have the back of currently used deck
in previous demo it was red, in this it's blue
?
fast reseting uses ur last deck you were using no?
noo
When you hold R to restart, you see a card appear on ur screen, when it flips, it has a blue back side
it previous demo it was red
OH
which makes me think it simply uses the first available deck for that
I just tuned into hafu for the first time and i can sense someone grinding for hours upon hours
Hafu has been live for 17 hours at this point
I can definitely tell by the fast movements and semi spam clicking
Will is still going 😂
oh wow his game knowledge improved a ton over the last few hours
hafu got poly stone and its trippy
I haven't, I have only watched some videos. But was that difficulty issue related to the joker pool or to more general balance problems (access to tarot and planets, hardcounter bosses, ante scaling) ?
I never felt like that pool was too specific and lacked soft synergies, these jokers should provide a large set of solutions in any context. Things get more difficult when going for optimal highscore since the game isn't balanced around that.
hafu is playing so frantically
Is skoottie’s run still number 1?
Holy moly
I'm awake just need to get some coffee in me. Is she the only one still live?
i don't think so
willneff is live
Is there a clip of Hafu's 59 million score?
Did Dan say if he'd be on this morning. I know frost and malf prob will
i forgot what jokers skoottie used i think it was obelisk popcorn photo and bs
I think the plan is red poly glass face cards
He had the low card retrigger one too. Hack I think? Forget its name
If there is, it was not posted here, and I cant find clips section on her channel. There seems to be a 18 hours vod already, maybe I could find a timestamp
Hafu could have something here, but we’ll see what happens
It’s still only 4 rounds in
it's so early, she might be able to cook something
all she needs is money honestly
and not to die to some boss blind
oh she has hack and one glass 2
She has business card and all 6s now
now pareidolia for the final combo
Got some hermits
she moneying rn
I think I found the run, 11 hours in she has 5 glass cards
and already 29 mil high score on leaderboard
Will Neff climbing
she skipped obelisk
will just hit 900k
nice
hes got a coach on the call though its so funny lol
Yeah
nah i gotta join that
Who?
willneff got a coach lol
lol
he on bell
is the coach anybody from the discord?
idk i just hear the voice
bro got notes on the screen 😭
he's that one guy whos studies like no other
good morning
Frost Prime too I think
WILL?
Hafu has been live for just under 18 hours
Legend
I can see the effects of streaming for 18 hours on hafu 😭
will on his mega hand
flush five 3 red sealed 4 multed 1 bonus
he's going for it
at the slowest speed imaginable
lol
gosh
im gonna be busy helping my father move some stuff for a bit so im not gonna be able to watch… i would love a last minute blowout from hafu though
slow motion
After watching 4x speed its excruciatingly slow
871k
892.8k
pretty decent
ik if bro had glass it would've gone to the billions 😭
Anyone saw how much exactly Will Neff did before the 892k? It was 900k something
we need glass hack red seals with any good scaler
we also need early-mid game obelisk building
true
he had a higher score that didn't register?
interesting that hafu didnt take invisible
could still dupe hack, it'd give more than baseball
hell baseball would've been fine too
Think it's a glitch, we'll fix it but I don't recall the exact scoree
i think realistically glass two hack red seals with fibbo, even steven and obelisk is the shot
i know thats very specific but
someone can hit it
even if its like 3 glass 2’s
nah, not rly, just yeeting all jokers but hack would make sense, nothing else really contributes to the high score
photo pareidolia is a good combo as well
only thing that could kill her is unlucky draws
pareidolia could go nuts maybe? i havent seen any cards that give chips/mult with face cards in this build though
I didnt see scary face either
A cook
if anything people have been getting their jimmies absolutely jimbo’d with face cards
and hack
oh no
oh true
oof hafu dam
greed
heh greed
not a morning blunderrrr
what does she get from all 6s at this point anyways huh
It was for business card synergy but now it’s kinda useless
Should’ve sold for brainstorm lol
it makes glass cards 50/50
yea exactly ...
excited for murph to wake up and see its still a wash in the tournament
yeah this happened earlier with hafu too
all 6s is part of a good ecom combo
I like that the leaderboard is 5 people and there is a total of 6 people in the tournament. Last place guy just sent straight to the basement to stay out of sight.
yea rn its useless
she just needs to survive
I think she gotta hermit before proc
With death and justice she might still clutch it
mega on tooth is wild
oh no no no
i think she's gonna mega
ye nice
yup
still holding on to that all 6s
what deck is she running?
get rid of oops tho 😭
magic
magic
start with 2 fools and crystal ball voucher
ye thats nutty
She could’ve bought a brainstorm there too
68m
new pb
almost 10 M improvement
she does not sound like she likes that pb
2nd place is last place
pb is nice but it just hurts looking at it compared to skoottie
If she had sold all 6s for brainstorm she would’ve smoked skoottie
how many glass broke?
2nd place is the worst place to be in
because it's less than 145 mil 😭
like DAMN skoottie just did it like that
skoottie had early obelisk tho
and good glass/red seals
yeah which was overall lucky but like
if he got that ONE card to glass it would've been 1b
*2/5 broke i think
1 red sealed glass 2/3/4/5 = X8 mult which would've gave skoottie a huge boost
its a mixture of no one truly going back to study that run + this game is obviously still luck based, so it really is jimbos choice if he wants someone to jump up in points
i'll clip it
its honestly a problem with timing
like early game is ROUGH with tryna get all the neccesary jokers + ecom
yeah
and the red seal + glass
rn the best +mult source is tarot joker
and the best xmult is obelisk
it definitely sucks for players to have to pick and choose how they wanna play with their money due to jokers like bull and vagabond
its like do i go broke for some tarots or do i stay crazy up in hopes i hit great jokers and try to keep money for my chips to stack
so u gotta build 2 different jokers early-mid game onwards with one requiring a pseudo build to scale it up
obelisk is rare or uncommon?
some tarots might be more helpful than the money, if u get glass + death + fool
true
i think uncom since i saw baseball proc 4 with it earlier
shit
uncommon
while money, it's rng what cards you draw in the pack
its a wild uncommon
baseball obelisk is broken as fuck
rng isn't that bad its just the money
I think you can replace obelisk with baseball if you get a good ecom and a lot of neg uncom jokers
but that's a little too much
its not always about the money .wav …
sometimes its about WILLNEFF GO WILLNEFF HELL YEAH BABY PLAY 12 MORE COPYRIGHTED SONGS
This was the saddest part of Hafu’s PB run
sometimes its about WILNEFF'S COACH YEAYEAYEAYEAYEAYEA
She didn’t see Brainstorm
brainstorm on that hack wouldve been so crazy
another sad part was her skipping obelisk mid game
NO WAY.
tbf she keeps going dead broke
and the only time vagabond shows up was when she had the most money 😭
she did pb tho. now 68m
she wants to get the #1 tho
yaya
she sounded so frustrated from the 68 lmao
the sell oa6 into brainstorm wouldve went nuts in that shop its sad
yea i was in the chat like HOLY
she needs vagabond cause she is going DEAD BROKE CONSTANTLY
we all are gonna go so crazy when we get are hands on this demo tho
and she was just like ahhhhhhh dang
if only she got the BS 
With that brainstorm it would’ve broken 2 billion
Ikr
Extra x32
with how many retriggers there are just 1 non glass card would be a MASSIVE reduce(skoottie be like)
Hafu with the $64
then getting vagabond once in the entire run not needing it

fingers seance for hafu
then goes dead broke on the tooth
she cookin?
just woke up
not that much but she got glass on
im eatin my breakfast then hoppin online
hows leaderboard going?
hafu got 68m
Hafu threw 2b
WHAT rip
did skoottie say if hes playing this morning or not?
She didn’t buy brainstorm in shop
yuh, missed brainstorm
she got destroyed with the tooth
18 hours without sleep does that
