🏆・jimbos-invitational

[main mirage]

im surprised there's now a second boss that hates face cards

[mellow echo]

Expected

[boreal reef]

i feel like obelisk has alot of potential

[raven pier]

I don't think it's good for high score runs

[winged pasture]

I'll swap a couple out no matter what but I am happer now than I was before the streams started

[boreal reef]

but they dont get it high enough

[winged pasture]

It seems pretty good as a set

[subtle stone]

obelisk seems strong for full game, you just scam 4 hands with High card and play last hand as a proper one

[winged pasture]

invis can copy obelisk WITH mult remember

same with ankh

[boreal reef]

i still think that its better to not skip, unless you want red seal start

for high score runs

[tender musk]

Double skip tag can be pretty strong

[mellow echo]

He'll buff it, don't worry

[subtle stone]

some tags seems cool, some are just meh (like the guaranteed uncommon)

[boreal reef]

hafu getting a 89k and taking the fourth spot from dan

[subtle stone]

but you get too much from a full round

[covert umbra]

Hafu pb

dang

[mellow echo]

Hafu pb is also Hafu first run, isn't it?

[main mirage]

that's generally how you get your first pb

[winged pasture]

My guess is that once you all get your hands on tags, they will be slightly less viable overall than not skipping but definitely sometimes better, so it is more strategic because you actually think about them now

like a double tag from the diet cola changes the equation a lot too

you can get double orbital tag for +6 levels on a specific hand

[boreal reef]

negative and poly are ones which will definitly be worth it if you have double tag

[tender musk]

Anaglyph deck will be fun with 8 antes

[boreal reef]

at least 1 of the 2 is good in most cases

[tender musk]

Imagine an instant +24 hand levels lmao

[covert umbra]

skootie doing obelisk

[lusty tangle]

double double double double double double double double tag

[raven pier]

+9 levels after anaglyph

is the hand randomly selected or is it most played?

[winged pasture]

It's randomly selected

[deep hollow]

dope

[boreal reef]

when doing seeded those skips will be good, since you know what hand it would proc

[lusty tangle]

Saving double tags to magically make a hand you've never played strong could become a strat

[subtle stone]

also localthunk, Hex seems way to dank (in a bad way)

[raven pier]

you know I'm going to search for a seed that gives you like level 50 high card with anaglyph and orbital

[deep hollow]

set seed speedruns are gonna be goated

[winged pasture]

Thinking of changing it to delete up to 1 joker

[boreal reef]

i think true low%(6 cards, 0 discards) should definitly be doable with these skips

[winged pasture]

I kinda like hex though - and ankh

[boreal reef]

what does hex do?

[raven pier]

downside seems too much for Hex, but balanced for Ankh

[lusty tangle]

I love the silly jokers for their names

[raven pier]

they both remove all but one joker - Hex gives it Poly and Ankh duplicates it

[winged pasture]

The upshot is huge with hex

With all the duping potential

[boreal reef]

duplication seems alot better then the poly

[lusty tangle]

cola duping + hex could be the stupidest strats ever

[subtle stone]

not really, unless you dupe the negative

[deep hollow]

im glad showman is in this demo

[raven pier]

It'll be fun to stash all of the anaglyph tags and then trigger one skip tag 5 times (8 in full game)

[deep hollow]

i wanna see if these tourney players abuse it

[boreal reef]

2 jokers which retrigger instead of 1 or having poly on that joker

i know what i prefer for high scores

[raven pier]

I don't see this happening unless someone pulls off a strong brainstorm/hack run

then they might need one of those to be duped for a good chance of beating it

[subtle stone]

you can also just get that joker with [joker that allows dupes], but the only way to get the poly on joker is wheel, and its very low odds

[winged pasture]

I had to move the ui around to let tags go up above the screen

[boreal reef]

the ideal scenario is to first make it poly and the duplicate, but the odds of that happening arent in your favor

[lusty tangle]

does duping oops all 6s do anything

[raven pier]

Skoottie has Brainstorm with Obelisk, might be on a huge run here

[subtle stone]

yes

[deep hollow]

ye i noticed that, good thinking

[raven pier]

x4 all probabilities

[lusty tangle]

here me out

[tender musk]

I was gonna suggest that exact change for hex actually

[boreal reef]

assuming you have the joker that allows dupes you could go poly, but again since only 1 is left you wont have that joker. you will first need to find the joker and then a copy

[lusty tangle]

I'd just imagine getting a couple lucky cards with this for the lols

[tender musk]

If 1 poly and 1 destroy is too good it can always be 2 destroys as well

[raven pier]

it's not lols, it's synergy

[boreal reef]

poly has higher potential, since you can still get copy elsewhere, but the odds are already so bad for poly glass and having red seal. dont forget decent planet level

[lusty tangle]

I like lols

[winged pasture]

I don't think skoottie gets the invis

He keeps skipping

[subtle stone]

if you are going for high scores, that you are looking for best thing possible, and getting poly on joker is better than duping it (from spectral)

[winged pasture]

Is the description confusing?

[deep hollow]

the description is after 3 rounds sell to dupe right

along that line for the new ability?

[winged pasture]

yeah

[lusty tangle]

do you gotta beat the rounds or just get through 3 rounds?

[winged pasture]

yes

[deep hollow]

i think he just doesnt wanna wait on the 3 round

[raven pier]

skoottie didn't go for hack

[covert umbra]

new skoottie pb with obelisk

[lusty tangle]

I think skoottie is in love with kings

[boreal reef]

true, but since you would want 2 hack and 2 brainstorm. i would just go for the extra copy. once that has been done however you will need good editions or negatives

[raven pier]

or more than 2

[subtle stone]

i mean, if you are talking about negatives, than anything can work

[raven pier]

showman doesn't limit you like WW did

[boreal reef]

you arent limited to 2?

[raven pier]

don't think so

[boreal reef]

that openes a whole new door

[winged pasture]

skoottie is about to go thermonuclear

[lapis remnant]

skoottie cooking

[lusty tangle]

hold up lemme tune in

[lapis remnant]

x6.5 obelisk

[boreal reef]

obelisk brainstorm

[deep hollow]

with ramen

[boreal reef]

damm

[lapis remnant]

last normal ante too

[rose knoll]

finally the obelisk gets the love it deserves

[deep hollow]

hope he replaces the 2nd joker

[lusty tangle]

i got hit with a 30 sec ad 😭

[lapis remnant]

big number either happens now or never

[covert umbra]

Is fish in this demo btw

[lapis remnant]

yuh

[deep hollow]

obelisk is fucking awesome btw thunk

[covert umbra]

O_O

[subtle stone]

was it not loved?

[deep hollow]

very impressed by the new cards

[lapis remnant]

it was unknown

[covert umbra]

I knew it would be fun

[lusty tangle]

local loves the silly jokers

[rose knoll]

skootie said it was awful and passed on a holo obelisk

[winged pasture]

here we go!

[lapis remnant]

5oak time

big number go

[winged pasture]

it's happening!

[lapis remnant]

drumroll please

[lusty tangle]

we got the 4 deadly jokers the 4 goofy jokers the 4 suit jokers

[lapis remnant]

2.1 mill!

[raven pier]

2.1 mil

[deep hollow]

LOL

[lusty tangle]

lets go

[raven pier]

not even ante 6

[lapis remnant]

7 digit alert

[covert umbra]

2 mil!

[boreal reef]

thats the number 1 spot for skoottie

[subtle dagger]

mils been cracked

[tender musk]

Nice!!

[subtle dagger]

lesgo

[subtle stone]

oh btw localthunk, thanks for scientific notation 🙂

[lusty tangle]

local you gonna give bonuses for who gets 1 bil 1 tril etc

[raven pier]

with cerulean as boss it isn't a guarantee though

[lapis remnant]

wait where

[lusty tangle]

cerulean is a pain and I love it

[deep hollow]

atleast he bought paint brush to have better odds

[subtle stone]

skootie checked the antes at the start of the stream, and antes 12+ are in scientific

[covert umbra]

where the leaderboard update?

[lethal pendant]

Cerulean is very final boss coded lol

[lapis remnant]

ooh

[mellow echo]

it's just slow

[covert umbra]

ah ok

[main mirage]

no need to panic

[mellow echo]

the in game board updates but the streamed leaderboard on Steam is slow

[lusty tangle]

cerulean causes problems that you only notice at the worst time

[covert umbra]

Im panicing

[main mirage]

DONT PANIC

[winged pasture]

No I had to do that one manually

[lusty tangle]

panik

[winged pasture]

It didn't update

[subtle stone]

i think leaderboards update every 5 minutes

[mellow echo]

o

[tired hound]

Lets go malfie

[lapis remnant]

maybe big number?

[winged pasture]

Please message here if it doesn't update within a minute on the livestream!

[lethal pendant]

Justified panic

[lapis remnant]

skoottie has a chance

[winged pasture]

No I pushed an update for a bug - they just need to update

[subtle stone]

are you talking about steam or ingame? or they are the same

[lapis remnant]

oh no

[winged pasture]

It usually works

[tender musk]

Did anyone screenshot the million hand? I’m at work and couldn’t watch it lmao

[lapis remnant]

obelisk 9.5 but he won off high card

[lusty tangle]

lol he won for the wrong thing

[rose knoll]

should have moved the obelisk to not double it for a while before ready

[covert umbra]

just picture 9x obelisk with bs going crazy with 5oak queens

[lapis remnant]

5oak queens, one glass two +mult x6.5 obelisk the tarot one popcorn ramen brainstorm

[lusty tangle]

anaglyph is stupid funny

[tired hound]

obelisk the tormentor?

[lusty tangle]

i have a physical copy of that

[winged pasture]

I ❤️ Obelisk

[lusty tangle]

got it from a yugio movie

[raven pier]

anaglyph is my favorite deck

[lusty tangle]

anaglyph stacking strat

just keep skipping just keep skipping just keep sticking

[lapis remnant]

I think the invitational is going well

upping hype and streamer exposure

[subtle dagger]

yeah it's amazing

[raven pier]

me on endless mode with 20 double tags, waiting to level up my Flush Five 60 times...

[subtle stone]

is there anything better in this demo to get dupes of tags than negative jokers and have enough money?

[lusty tangle]

whos on track to get a pb rn

[tired hound]

at work, trying to catch as much as i can

[tender musk]

Nice!

[raven pier]

everyone is in earlygame

[lusty tangle]

you can get a tag that levels up a random hand which is funny

[deep hollow]

obelisk stack with the tag that gives u more hands maybe, but its very eloborate strat

[subtle stone]

true, but thats even more random, since you need to roll eyris

[deep hollow]

i think tags are in a good spot now that there is a ton of variety

[winged pasture]

poly skip is good, rare skip is a sometimes, economy tag depending on your cash, ethereal tag is good

[rose knoll]

double money tag and then double tag tag. its good stuff

[lusty tangle]

well any pareidolia combos that are stupid

[subtle stone]

what double money tag limited to?

[winged pasture]

$40

[boreal reef]

pareidolia gets hard countered by the boss though

[lusty tangle]

yea skoottie got a demonstration

[deep hollow]

why does it feel like bull is both underpowered and overpowered

[lusty tangle]

bull?

[tender musk]

Bull feels weird

[tender musk]

+chips equal to cash

[deep hollow]

+1 chip per $1

[boreal reef]

if you have drspectered amounts of money you will have a good amount of chips

[subtle stone]

i wish cola joker can be bought&sold 🙂

[boreal reef]

otherwise it doesnt seem that strong

[tender musk]

It is just a common

[lusty tangle]

money printing strats are flourishing with this

[deep hollow]

its uncommon

[tender musk]

Oh

Whoops

[deep hollow]

which is good for the baseball card

[subtle stone]

its weird that dev printed chip joker that is even more op than wee

[subtle dagger]

with double tags you can stack up money quite fast

[lusty tangle]

and the interest voucher

[subtle dagger]

yeah right, we have that too

[boreal reef]

baseball card seems close to an instant win this demo

[rose knoll]

bull seems like the kind of card you see in an endless run with infinite cash

[deep hollow]

bootstrap bull seems fun in full game

[lusty tangle]

I think skoottie is tryna do something with bull considering how much i've heard him talk about money

[slow acorn]

immediately sells it, lol

[lusty tangle]

perfect timing lol

seriously i keep hearing that man talk about money even in the highscores

[lapis remnant]

maybe replace bull with buskin in the new demo?

[deep hollow]

bull + parieldolla + buisness + reserved parking

[lapis remnant]

there's not much synergy with it rn

[deep hollow]

holy shit

[lusty tangle]

• oops all 6s

[deep hollow]

was boutta add that

[lusty tangle]

does red seal work with held in hand stuff or no

[rose knoll]

plus oops 6's

[subtle stone]

thats an entire hand of jokers

[lusty tangle]

gotta hustle

[deep hollow]

best early game joker set

if ur a lucky dog

[lusty tangle]

that set gives like $20 per HAND

[subtle stone]

would be nice if dev can share the new jokers, so someone can update the wiki

[lusty tangle]

stack some hand tags + the wall and you've got a money printing machine

[covert umbra]

WHAT

Neg even steven and odd todd same shop from hafu O_O

[raven pier]

said some will be switched around for the public demo

[lusty tangle]

it was meant to be

[winged pasture]

LMAO she needs to choose between steven and todd

Sophies Choice

[covert umbra]

lol

[subtle stone]

always todd

[main mirage]

trolley problem

[deep hollow]

skootie showed every joker in begining of vod

[lusty tangle]

should we do a doc with all of them

[subtle stone]

yeah, but screenscrapping is bad quality

[main mirage]

the joker flavors in this demo look a lot more intense than the first demo

[deep hollow]

true but we can work with ong

[main mirage]

looking forward to trying it 👀

[lusty tangle]

local's been getting a little goofy, especially with the 4 silly jokers

[fickle rapids]

the ramen looks like it has intense flavor and i want to eat it

[subtle stone]

Mouth blocks you from not same hand, but probably should say the hand

[lusty tangle]

can we put the jokers into categories of 4

cause local likes adding 4/5 jokers with a specific theme

[winged pasture]

wat

[mellow echo]

wat

[lapis remnant]

wat

[main mirage]

which category does jimbo belong in

[boreal reef]

humanoid?

[lusty tangle]

the jimbo

[lapis remnant]

joker face, picture, food, other

[viral tide]

Hi what about free codes for game ?

[subtle stone]

what the Arrowhead category is?

[mellow echo]

#📢・announcements message

[lusty tangle]

The 4 rocky jokers

also the 4 deadly jokers

[subtle stone]

i want to know

[main mirage]

bean

[lusty tangle]

what are the new 4 silly jokers called

[fickle rapids]

the four comedy dorks of the chipocalypse

[subtle dagger]

nice leek

[mellow echo]

"I like thi- look at this beeeean" - Skootter

[lusty tangle]

how do I check what the names of the new jokers are?

Me joining skoottie's stream: "I'm so excited for this eve-" Devious Joker

[covert umbra]

Is judgement its own rng pool in this demo?

[lusty tangle]

from what i observe its part of the joker pool

[covert umbra]

ok so like last demo

[subtle stone]

jokes aside, these 2 are the jokers im actually interested from the sneak peeks

[mellow echo]

The right one has known text

[lusty tangle]

joker on the left drank some redbull

[covert umbra]

lol, the left looks so goofy

[raven pier]

Hallucination

is what the left one is called

[subtle stone]

is this something with glass cards?

[lusty tangle]

from the name i'd say its similar to pareidolia

[raven pier]

I had an effect idea for it that was fun

[mellow echo]

isn't that a legendary? 🤔

[raven pier]

All cards act simultaneously as one rank higher and one rank lower

[raven pier]

it makes strouse possible

[lusty tangle]

you mean a ledge-and-dairy

[winged pasture]

Will neff is here!

[mellow echo]

not wavy enough to be legendary

[lusty tangle]

can i get the names of the 4 silly jokers

lol seeing skoottie be shocked at beta jokers is kinda funny ngl

[raven pier]

beautiful streams right now

[covert umbra]

lol

[boreal reef]

adblock?

[main mirage]

STREAM EDITIONS???

[tulip pebble]

I'm enjoying Murphy's multistream commentary

[main mirage]

ye

[mellow echo]

For folks missing out: #🎥・videos-and-streams message

[lusty tangle]

I'm casually watching skoottie misunderstand Hit the Road

[subtle stone]

im kinda curious, if localthunk/playstack contacted Murphy for what he is doing

because its so good

[lusty tangle]

what he doing?

[subtle stone]

#🏆・jimbos-invitational message

[mellow echo]

Nah, he Thunk'd it up all on his own

[lusty tangle]

Nah, I'd thunk

[tulip pebble]

he's got all the streams up in a multistream window, sometimes focusing on just one of them, and giving commentary on what he's seeing

[boreal reef]

i like the jimbotron and jimboplex

[subtle stone]

and giving hell of a Commentary

[tulip pebble]

it's hilarious and ridiculous

[lusty tangle]

jimbo, more like GYMbo

[mellow echo]

#🎥・videos-and-streams message

[tulip pebble]

Gym Bro?

[lusty tangle]

Jimbo hit the gym bro then became gymbro with his gymbro

[main mirage]

#🎨・fan-art message

[subtle stone]

thank you

[raven pier]

Skoottie had a 1.4 mil run and died to the bell

[boreal reef]

he lost his glass aces

[lusty tangle]

bell is a KILLER

[subtle dagger]

this new bell is brutal

[tulip pebble]

what does bell do?

[boreal reef]

selects 1 card you have to use

[lusty tangle]

it autoselectes a card every hand/discard

[boreal reef]

either playing it or discarding it

[lusty tangle]

It is simple yet destructive

[tulip pebble]

does it select it first and then you can decide if this is a play or a discard?

or is it like, you select 4 cards and it throws a 5th one on it?

[lusty tangle]

it selects before every hand

[boreal reef]

cant be rough if you are discarding to find your cards and it selects the one you want to save

[covert umbra]

Dna in demo or nah?

[lusty tangle]

the fact that autoselecting one card does this much damage(makes some tarots less useful, relies on rng to get your preferred hand)

[raven pier]

hafu with 459k

[covert umbra]

oooo

[tulip pebble]

yeah, that seems like almost a hard counter for a lot of builds

[lusty tangle]

Ima predict hafu gonna get 2-3 mil then skootie gets barely above that later

[tulip pebble]

autoselect one card when I have a straight build? Fuck

[lusty tangle]

skoottie almost got destroyed with an almost perfect straight flush build

[boreal reef]

it wouldnt suprise me if someone gets above 10m

[mellow echo]

Third run?

[subtle stone]

once hafu figure out the obelisk, she gonna go 8 digits

[lusty tangle]

when red seals become common to achieve we're gonna go way, way higher

[tulip pebble]

I haven't seen what Obelisk does yet

[lusty tangle]

gain xmult per consecutive non most played hand

scales faster then throwback by a long shot

[raven pier]

588k now

[tulip pebble]

oh geez I see The Bell and it's also frickin 40k chips

[raven pier]

587927 PB

[subtle stone]

its hard, since its only from spectrals

[mellow echo]

Lvl 15 Full House

[tulip pebble]

that was a great play though

[subtle stone]

so you need early 4 fingers + jokers that gives spectrals

[lusty tangle]

lol

[lusty tangle]

bs + seance will be game changing when someone gets that combo

[subtle stone]

i have little idea how new jokers are called

[tulip pebble]

is Bell the final boss always?

[lusty tangle]

I think skoottie will get cause he's focused on straight flush

[mellow echo]

yeah

[lusty tangle]

yea its the same bosses just cycled differently

[mellow echo]

He's been focusing Five and Flush Five the whole time

[boreal reef]

reroll tag still a thing?

[lusty tangle]

in the beginning he went for straight flush and got pretty far with it

[mellow echo]

He experimented with Shortcut and Fingers but passed on Seance three times and played more Straights than Straight Flushes

[lusty tangle]

seance is pretty hefty honestly

[boreal reef]

i always imagined that spectrals would have a higher sell price compared to tarots

since they felt more rare

[mellow echo]

They're rare until Seance makes them not rare

[lusty tangle]

mass producing seance will go crazy

with ringleader/invis joker

also copy with bs

[tulip pebble]

seance / shortcut or seance / 4 fingers seems like it could be very strong

[boreal reef]

seance is really good

will be insane in seeded runs

[main mirage]

malf getting offered shortcut/seance in a mega buffoon pack lmao

[lusty tangle]

you'd need seance shortcut and invis/ringleader/bs early

[mellow echo]

let me know what he picks in about 17 minutes

[lusty tangle]

I think skoottie's just experimenting cause flush five is a dream come true

[winged pasture]

Whoever gets the highest score, I think murphy wins the competition

This stream is amazing

[mellow echo]

Jimbotron

[main mirage]

jimbotron was a great chat suggestion

[mellow echo]

broadcasting live from the Jimboplex

[lusty tangle]

Jimbo Neutron is a fire joker 🔥

[mellow echo]

I'm going to keep boosting him for the newcomers to the channel: #🎥・videos-and-streams message

[tulip pebble]

me and Michael are both hella sick. I'm laying under a blanket watching the stream. I think he might be laying under a blanket watching the same stream.

[boreal reef]

willneff has the optimal camera placement, only blocking the part of the screen which displays the score

[zenith sierra]

Good strategy imo

[fickle rapids]

@ionic solar look I know you're busy but pinging this to you because you deserve the round of applause

[sage prism]

Hafu aka Fort Knox

[subtle stone]

how did Hafu get her 500k?

[tulip pebble]

level 15 full house, kings/queens, on the final boss

[subtle stone]

hmmmm

[rose knoll]

skootie banking a quick level 13 full house

[covert umbra]

ooo

[velvet girder]

Oh right that was today

[median knoll]

whos got the leaderboard ?

[lusty tangle]

you forgot?

[covert umbra]

check pin

[velvet girder]

Been busy

[tight jacinth]

ringmaster with celestial packs feels really bad huh

[raven pier]

A list of every Joker in this invitational

[winged pasture]

Any Cavendish appearances yet?

[subtle stone]

any mods with some pins?

[mellow echo]

not that I've seen

[tight jacinth]

Is cavendish the upgraded bananna?

[lusty tangle]

8th joker boutta pull a devious lick(please don't i want my bathrooms back)

[raven pier]

@ mods

[rose knoll]

what are the chances for cavendish

[eternal tundra]

hey could you check out #📜・bugs-old for me while you're here?

[pseudo vapor]

Do we want to pin that?

[tight jacinth]

if so, I don't think we will see a cavendish since everyone seems to be offput by the 1/4 chance to destroy

[raven pier]

up to you tbh

[wintry topaz]

Legend

[pseudo vapor]

Let me consult the council

[raven pier]

i know a lot of people had asked about the jokers included so this would be helpful

[tight jacinth]

What is going on in hafus stream

[lapis remnant]

chip doing the lord's work rn

[slow acorn]

yes

[lapis remnant]

way better than murphy imo

[raven pier]

there's also things like tags, but idk if there is a streamer that went through all of their descriptions

[tulip pebble]

what joker is that orange one?

[slow acorn]

Greedy

[raven pier]

+4 mult per diamond

[tight jacinth]

so greedy

[tulip pebble]

oh I see that's a "let's just play diamonds like mad"

[hot moss]

i love how skootie always takes throwback

[tulip pebble]

oops all 6s bad with glass cards

[raven pier]

ringmaster clearly was cooking

[covert umbra]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kp9ZNPV6x-aMbHS2RWqnk34UgNiC5ENKUEnfFW16vlg/edit doc for jokers just incase

[velvet girder]

Hot take flower pot is not very good

[covert umbra]

fair

[subtle stone]

can you do something for visibility? like spacing between jokers, names being bolded

[raven pier]

Also rarity colors

[covert umbra]

Im busy atm

[velvet girder]

Hit the road is slightly better than flower pot but it’s def not worth a rare

[sage prism]

Why does blud have 4 greedy jokers ⁉️

[velvet girder]

I guess it really depends

[covert umbra]

prob double tags with somethin idk

[velvet girder]

Ringmaster?

Actually I have 0 clue of the new stuff

[subtle stone]

hit the road is great

its almost free x3

[raven pier]

Showman (new name for Ringmaster) and Ankh?

[velvet girder]

It can be good but in most runs it is not

[covert umbra]

Im waiting for hack bs glass cards

with maybe a poly idk

[velvet girder]

Ya

No glass joker in this?

[raven pier]

Check pins for the joker list

[velvet girder]

I didn’t see it so I guess not

[tall nymph]

What'd I miss in the last hour

[velvet girder]

They played Balatro

[tall nymph]

My god

[main mirage]

skoottie still at the top with 2 mil

but everyone's cookin more

[velvet girder]

I know it’s crazy

[boreal reef]

willneff got brainstorm and invis joker in the same shop

[velvet girder]

Crazy

[main mirage]

does that triple the brainstorm??

[boreal reef]

he doesnt seem to want to buy the invis joker though

[main mirage]

bruh :(

[covert umbra]

what font should it be in?

[velvet girder]

Comic sans

[main mirage]

wingdings

[covert umbra]

wingdings it is

[rose knoll]

can the hologram go crazy in the main game. maybe dna or the marble joker or something. it doesnt seem great

[covert umbra]

It definitely needs a buff

not to many ways to add cards imo

[velvet girder]

Just read vagabond

What the hell

[covert umbra]

Im gonna bold jonkler names now

[velvet girder]

jonkler

Odd Todd, hack, and Fibonacci

Fairly common thing that’s good

[raven pier]

Why is Fibonacci uncommon? It triggers just as often as Even Steven with the same benefit

[main mirage]

the question for all time

[winged pasture]

shake it up

[sage prism]

Everytime I see balatro I miss balatro

[covert umbra]

also baseball synergy

[tender musk]

oh i just realised photograph is common

common xmult

[lusty tangle]

I thought it was Willy Joker

[main mirage]

oh interesting

probably because it applies before other jokers

[mellow echo]

Don't tell CC
Skootter sold the Business Card when Pareidolia

[main mirage]

bruh

[tender musk]

sigh

[lusty tangle]

He keeps failing that strat so hard

[covert umbra]

? I just copy and pasted maths list

[lusty tangle]

Skoottie wants to do the strat, but logic and the universe itself just don't like it

[main mirage]

the universe has not yet deemed skoottie worthy

[lusty tangle]

I think the universe wants skoottie to take the seance

[main mirage]

yes that is likely the trial through which he shall be proven worthy

[sage prism]

Any rainmen figured out the max possible score given the demo joker pool?

[velvet girder]

Glass ploy pareidolia Ace with Fibonacci odd Todd

[main mirage]

tryin to https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1197995315001819308

[lusty tangle]

not so hot take: Hologram and Driver's License should never be in the same demo together

[velvet girder]

Whar

[raven pier]

tl;dr it depends on how many Brainstorms and Hacks you can get in a seed, but it should be a good bit higher than last demo’s glitched score

[boreal reef]

willneff got poly red seal 2 from standard pack

bruh

[lusty tangle]

has anyone figured out a strat that gives a lot of red seals/glass cards

[raven pier]

lmao

You know I’m searching for poly red seal glass standard packs now

When the demo releases

[lusty tangle]

willneff can potentially get the craziest score that most likely can't be rivaled till much later

[mellow echo]

You can just get it, yeah

[raven pier]

Use deaths generated from Vagabond probably

[boreal reef]

wait that might be the fastest way to get it

and now a polychrome wild king from standard pack

[lusty tangle]

I think the meta's just gonna be straight flushes/flush five solely because of seance

[boreal reef]

what is his luck

[rose knoll]

i want to see seance pop off. all the seals and then cryptid is better death

[boreal reef]

straight flush is will be hard to get polychrome on every one

you will need alot of strength cards

[lusty tangle]

seance is an absolute game changer that hasn't really been seen in this game's history(ok thats exaggerating but it sounded cool ok)

[velvet girder]

Really depends

[rose knoll]

seance my fav new card but it may secretly be ass

[lusty tangle]

does skoottie know the jan 25 announcment

[rose knoll]

is there a public demo on 25th

[lusty tangle]

yea

next demo went from feb to jan

[rustic wind]

#📢・announcements message

[rose knoll]

this news has brightened my day for sure

[lusty tangle]

The Tooth might actually be a problem because of the low money Vagabond stuff

[mellow echo]

"Malf, how you doin'? You've been cookin' on this run for a little while" - Murph
#🎥・videos-and-streams message

[main mirage]

malf's got a slow roast in the oven

[lusty tangle]

what category should we call the xmult poker hand jokers?

[lusty tangle]

someone boutta get an exponential roast in the oven like skoottie

What if you stack double tags on the neg tag then use swashbuckler

cause +mult is gonna become slightly important when everyone figures out how to use obelisk to the max

[tight jacinth]

flowerpot seems like a tough proc. Don't see an issue increasing it to x4 mult. Better flavor and matches the art

[raven pier]

I think someone will break through with a retrigger build

[lusty tangle]

flowerpot has a high reward but tedious condition

[tardy belfry]

this demo has me thinking

[raven pier]

or just getting full glass cards with the obelisk combo

[lusty tangle]

im calling that someone using hack

[tardy belfry]

it is shown possible in last demo

[subtle stone]

Wanted to check out hafu from the start of the stream, but she has it private 😭

[lusty tangle]

hack is gonna take the roll of dusk in this demo

[mellow echo]

Yeah. We called that at the beginning of the month

[tardy belfry]

1 trill will be hard in this demo i think

[lusty tangle]

didn't see 😢

[raven pier]

I think it will be harder unseeded but easier with searching

[boreal reef]

it should be easier compared to the previous demo i think

[lusty tangle]

1 trill I think will be slight easier

[boreal reef]

with red seal

[raven pier]

retrigger builds have a higher ceiling with showman

[mellow echo]

should be easier

[tender musk]

we have extra retriggers in this demo

[tardy belfry]

no dna or dusk

[boreal reef]

and being able to get more copies of jokers you want

[lusty tangle]

we got seance\vagabond and hack

[boreal reef]

we have hack, which retriggers 2,3,4,5

[mellow echo]

Seance is the real game changer everyone is sleeping on

[tardy belfry]

i guess thats a replacement of dusk

[raven pier]

nobody's gotten a good straight flush build with it

[boreal reef]

there is so many straight synergy's in this demo

[main mirage]

i aint sleeping on it, i just can't play with it yet 😔

[covert umbra]

hack just better dusk for 2,3,4,5

[tardy belfry]

no one is even going for aura which makes me sad

[lusty tangle]

ikr like you'd think they'd take advantage of the fact that this is the best demo for spectrals

[boreal reef]

Willneff took dan's number 5 spot with 49k

[winged pasture]

Yoooooo

[covert umbra]

• red seal which is dusk as a seal (except every hand instead of last)

[main mirage]

dan returns to stream, "where's my score chat?"

[tight jacinth]

Was Ankh ever tested giving 2 copies? Its mega strong but you would have to sell everything you didnt want to hit for it to pop

[boreal reef]

was the leaderboard having 5 slots on purpose?

[tight jacinth]

I could have easily missed but i havent seen anyone take ankh yet

[lusty tangle]

omg skoottie might use flowerpot

[mellow echo]

Skoottie took Hex, which is Ankh but worse
and then immediately got punished

[lusty tangle]

this is a big moment

[tender musk]

it gets worse the further you get in the run

[main mirage]

i thought hex was a seal?

[mellow echo]

o

[lusty tangle]

ankh is literally prestige in idle games

[main mirage]

unless he had a joker that was a retrigger

[tight jacinth]

yeah its great as an ante 1 or 2 spectral but any time after i could never see myself taking it

[mellow echo]

whichever one gives you the Polychrome Joker

[tender musk]

hex is the poly joker one

[winged pasture]

Hex is poly

[main mirage]

oh

wait what

[winged pasture]

ship evab

[main mirage]

why did i hear it was a seal

nO

[lusty tangle]

ship you to no balatro land

[mellow echo]

That was early speculation about which Spectrals gave seals

[tender musk]

medium is purple, trance is blue, deja vu is red

[lusty tangle]

wait skoottie trying ringleader

[main mirage]

i see

[tardy belfry]

hack and brainstorm plus red seal oh no I now realize

[main mirage]

also, first case of a spectral and a joker sharing a name, yeah?

[tight jacinth]

ringmaster allows dupe spectrals as well hmmm

when is this ever helpful?

[main mirage]

frost just got 300k

[median knoll]

not updated on the stream then

[tender musk]

you could get 2 of the same in a mega pack

[tight jacinth]

oh right. Still i think its more often a downside

[deep hollow]

the card that spawns spectral too

[covert umbra]

Can we have the leaderboard in binary?

[lusty tangle]

duping with seance

[tender musk]

showman will be really good for seed searchered runs

[tight jacinth]

Yeah for sure. Unseeded though it seems terrible. Anti celestial pack synergy and low chance to see duplicate jokers

[mellow echo]

For the record, Thunker, this experience,
this is why I proposed to have a (not necessarily) monthly rotating "Limited Joker Pool."

You're given a new Joker pool and get to figure out what's possible and what's optimal all over again.

[winged pasture]

Will got 79K

[misty lantern]

Will is so entertaining man

[lusty tangle]

but when it happens... it happens

[mellow echo]

oop. I got an up-doot

[main mirage]

duel of the pointing upwards hands

[tight jacinth]

Will hitting some nice shop rolls

[lusty tangle]

I think skoottie's tryna swashbuckle

[mellow echo]

trying

[winged pasture]

This dang thing is being held together by hopes and dreams rn

cmon you rusty bucket of bolts

[lusty tangle]

ok

[tender musk]

he couldve played a royal flush on the first hand lmfao

[misty lantern]

poor will

[tender musk]

with 4 fingers

[tight jacinth]

The mouth claims another 😂

[mellow echo]

lol

you seeing this, too?

[covert umbra]

WILL NOOOOO

[tight jacinth]

poor Will

[misty lantern]

woulda been a sick hand too

[covert umbra]

He had 4 fingers also omg

[median knoll]

how slow does the leaderboard update?

[misty lantern]

he said he wanted to get all 5 for the max points

[main mirage]

greed

[tender musk]

its pretty fast until it just doesnt update at all

[tight jacinth]

Skoottie is aware of red seal power

[fickle rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/morpheus-believe-neo-beginning-to-believe-gif-5399492

[winged pasture]

If the leaderboard doesn't update please send a message!

[misty lantern]

red seal / glass / hack seems like the play

[lusty tangle]

poly

[mellow echo]

He's known the whole time but hasn't figured out what Jokers to use yet

[misty lantern]

true but thats asking a whole lotta luck

[tight jacinth]

wow he must have been quick. I just heard him now saying he was hunting for red seals

Skoottie onto the hack+ red seal now

[scarlet vigil]

anybody got a clip or timestamp for the high scoring hands?

[tight jacinth]

oh yeah Skoottie has got this solved

just needs the right seed

[lusty tangle]

skoottie loves neg jokers lol

wait he might be cooking just a little bit

[misty lantern]

throwback + obelisk

crazy potential

hard to play though

[lusty tangle]

first shop too

[misty lantern]

if he gets some luck he could beat his pb

[tender musk]

hafu took joker over gros michel lmao

[lusty tangle]

what.

did he just put even steven ahead of photograph

[misty lantern]

even steven my goat

[lusty tangle]

ok he's getting the luck

poly boutta be glass 9

[misty lantern]

glass 9 poly is insane

he is cookin

hack

too

[lusty tangle]

why can't he use strength to put it to 2

[graceful falcon]

Hafu yelling at the camera is giving me life

[tight jacinth]

Nobody is taking it because it destroys so easily. Dont think we are going to be seeing super banana this tourney

there is no way in game to know that banana needs to be destroyed for the upgraded version to spawn i think

it serves as a nice easter egg but i dont think we will see much of it unless someone knew of this beforehand

[misty lantern]

red seal 4 and glass

skoottie has something here

[mellow echo]

He's got the tech, if he can solve the puzzle

[misty lantern]

he is right there

[winged pasture]

Skoottie is about to go off

[boreal reef]

skoottie is cooking

[main mirage]

oh god

[lusty tangle]

he got the tools to cook, now he gotta prepare the dish

[boreal reef]

3 glass with red seal already

and its ante 3

also got hack and ringmaster, which might lead to another hack

[tender musk]

Screenshot his score plsss I had to pack up my stuff

[tender musk]

Ringmaster is named showman now

[main mirage]

o7

[boreal reef]

didnt know it was already changed in this version

[tender musk]

Yep!

[lusty tangle]

he's building obelisk...

[covert umbra]

Skoottie cookin

[boreal reef]

thats another one

4 red seal glass

[mellow echo]

hold onto your butts

[misty lantern]

if he gets that 9 poly to a diamond its over

hes going for it

[covert umbra]

TRIO!

[lapis remnant]

just when I go to dinner someone starts cooking

[tight jacinth]

lmao wrap it up

[boreal reef]

dammm

[misty lantern]

145 mil

[boreal reef]

145m

[misty lantern]

holy

[lusty tangle]

YOOO

[covert umbra]

145 MIL!

[half mortar]

LET'S GOOOOO

[sage prism]

145MIL WINNERS POV!

[mellow echo]

Live from the Jimbodome:
#🎥・videos-and-streams message

[winged pasture]

145 milly oh my

[hallow oak]

145 MILLION

Wow!

[lusty tangle]

now he gotta get 1b

[strong marlin]

gawd DMN

[hallow oak]

Talk about tearing that Wall down

[misty lantern]

its crazy cause that wasnt even best possible hand

insane run

[sage prism]

zamn

145 mil

[mellow echo]

pretty mid

[rose knoll]

yeah he missed that last 4 and could have stacked the obelisk a bunch more as well

[half mortar]

great to see the early meta begin to congeal

[boreal reef]

ideal scenario is 5, he had 4 and only drew 3 from pile

[covert umbra]

With the right luck couldve been atleast 1.5 bil

[boreal reef]

also take in mind this isnt even glass poly

[covert umbra]

^

100Bil is the ceiling for this 24 hours if they seriously grind

[half mortar]

True! :v

[covert umbra]

though Ig you never know

[boreal reef]

and there also steel cards

1.5x mult

those werent used

[lusty tangle]

do red sealed steel cards trigger twice

[misty lantern]

yes

I think

[covert umbra]

^

[rose knoll]

the full game is going to be so broken lmao

[misty lantern]

the perfect run in the demo needs some insane luck on random seeds but with seeds im excited to see the scores

[lusty tangle]

If it was 5 red sealed poly glass cards alone it would've been 3^10 mult

[misty lantern]

plus hack and potential steel

the ceiling is insane

[rose knoll]

no brainstorm on the x10 obelisk either

[misty lantern]

obelisk too

[lusty tangle]

if you factor in 8 red sealed steel cards in held hand that'd be 1.5^16

wait does poly red sealed steel cards work

[misty lantern]

you gotta use 5 of them though

so you gotta increase hand size

but negative exist and makes the possibilities insane

[mellow echo]

Frost is stream sniping
he's doing his research

[muted hearth]

How is it looking the scores?

[lusty tangle]

lets say no hand size changes/no jokers

[misty lantern]

god this event fucking rules

[rustic wind]

Big ol 145M mic drop from Skootie

[misty lantern]

im so excited for new demo

[lusty tangle]

skootie hit a 145M

[rustic wind]

No one else has even 7 figs yet

[misty lantern]

Hafu is cookin and it seems frost is picking up the strats

idk if anyone is getting 145 mil though

[boreal reef]

strats

[muted hearth]

My highest hand in the previous demo was like maybe 10k

Zamn

[mellow echo]

time to start coaching Frosty Boi

[boreal reef]

already saw you in the chat

[rose knoll]

im only loyal to skootie and dan

[mellow echo]

Thunk said he wanted a competition

[covert umbra]

skoottie and hafu only 2 I know

funny they are the goats rn

[boreal reef]

i knew every creator except for dan

[half mortar]

yeah this really ramped up

this is dope

[lusty tangle]

5 red sealed poly glass cards + 8 red sealed steel cards = 3^10 * 1.5^16 or just around 40 million mult

[boreal reef]

does hack retirggering a card also make it retrigger a red seal?

[tender musk]

no

red seal adds 1 trigger only

[covert umbra]

Anyone got skoottie clip?

for 145 mil

[half mortar]

try this

https://clips.twitch.tv/WonderfulSourEagleSoBayed-yfAOvgnL6fxZmNG8

[covert umbra]

Post in videos and streams also

[lapis remnant]

guys I think skoottie might be in the lead now

[mellow echo]

walking the wife

[lapis remnant]

golly that's a whopper of a score

[covert umbra]

maybe...

[mellow echo]

and the dog, I guess

[tender musk]

a banana has gone extinct

now's our chance for cavendish

[subtle stone]

Hafu basically said "challenge accepted" on her stream

[tender musk]

no cavendish 😔

[rose knoll]

cavendish is secretly not coded into the game

[lapis remnant]

cavendish is an easter egg

you need to physically eat a banana for cavendish to appear

[subtle stone]

i just had one, but it didnt appear on any of the streams

[tight jacinth]

Will knows he can raise game speed? At this point i'm sure he just prefers x1 speed

[covert umbra]

Is baseball card compatible btw?

I assume not

[subtle stone]

with brainstorm? it is

[covert umbra]

YOOO wait thats insane then

2.25x per uncommon

[main mirage]

is brainstorm rare or uncommon

[covert umbra]

Rare

[boreal reef]

rare

[main mirage]

so from 1.5^4 max to 1.5^6 max

• negatives i suppose

[covert umbra]

yah

reposting my link of jonklers in a doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kp9ZNPV6x-aMbHS2RWqnk34UgNiC5ENKUEnfFW16vlg/edit

[subtle stone]

most of the uncommons are not that great for high scores, so its just x11 from 2 jokers

[rugged rose]

Holy hell, I love these new jonklers

[rose knoll]

hafu is going through it

[hot moss]

doing the math

should she switch baseball for obelisk?

cause baseball is giving her x2.25

[half mortar]

oh noo hafu

[hot moss]

ik so sad

she did all the math in the shop but didnt do any for the hand

[covert umbra]

Rip hafu

[hot moss]

rip

[mellow echo]

I miss Skoottie
admiring the Joker art previews

[hot moss]

ik

seeing him play obelisk wrong was kinda funny ngl

[mellow echo]

he figured it out

[covert umbra]

Did he misunderstand it at the beginning?

[mellow echo]

He understood what the words on the card were
but not necessarily how to maximize its value

it's a thunker for sure

[zenith sierra]

er

Tbh I've seen like 1 or 2 full runs of the invitational

[raven pier]

It’s been 7 and a half hours and nobody else has broken a million yet

[mellow echo]

called shot

[covert umbra]

thats crazy

[zenith sierra]

Then what is the #🎥・videos-and-streams going on about with skootie

[covert umbra]

was expecting a mil by now, guess skoottie left so

[zenith sierra]

I'm mad lost rn

[narrow crane]

the mark + pareidolia combo 🔥

[covert umbra]

What are all the tags?

[raven pier]

He’s the one who broke it

[raven pier]

Skoottie didn’t look through them, otherwise I would’ve wrote that out too

[steady obsidian]

https://clips.twitch.tv/LightClearBisonBCouch-c__G-C5XL0REuStM

[narrow crane]

astounding

[tight jacinth]

"Celestial Packs suck" Will Neff

so when are we getting buffed celestial packs 😂

[covert umbra]

lol

[tight jacinth]

hes hilarious

he had a ton to say about the probability joker

spoiler: he hates it

[tender musk]

there's not really much planet synergy in the joker lineup for this version

[wicked hamlet]

are you planning on scrutinizing the invitational for joker leaks

because if so i'm sorry for your sanity

[raven pier]

I already listed them all, but the ART leaks will be pain to find

or just wait 6 days, and we'll have them all

[wicked hamlet]

why would i do that

[tender musk]

no, getting direct sources for everything would be a huge pain in the ass, i'm sticking to discord leaks

[tight jacinth]

I'd love to see the most picked cards this event after it ends

[raven pier]

Delayed Gratification

[tight jacinth]

Based on what I've seen, flower pot and Ankh needs a buff to be more enticing

[wicked hamlet]

flower pot is x3 though

[tender musk]

ankh isn't bad

[wicked hamlet]

x3 is a lot

[steady obsidian]

with wild cards flower pot becomes way more doable

[tender musk]

it gets worse the further you get in the run but its really good earlygame

Hex though, not great

[covert umbra]

skoottie back?

[wicked hamlet]

what does hex do

[tight jacinth]

its fine super early and maybe thats fine. But outside the first ante or 2 its unpickable

[tender musk]

gives poly to a joker and destroys all others

so ankh but poly instead of dupe

[main mirage]

i think if you have some mediocre jokers and one really good one it could still be good later

[wicked hamlet]

yeah thats weak

maybe poly to 1 and destroy another random

[tender musk]

poly on a random joker and 1 random joker destroyed could be worth

[tight jacinth]

How often does that come up though? I havent seen a single Ankh picked yet

[tender musk]

might be a symptom of the lineup this version

full game i think itll be more effective

[main mirage]

i don't think the players have a good grasp of what a normal run looks like either

they're focusing on high score, but are also playing pretty far from optimally

[lapis remnant]

is there a normal run?

[zenith sierra]

Every run in balatro in normal

[lapis remnant]

this is a new demo after all

[zenith sierra]

Except for crummy ww shenanigans

(That's I totally never interfered with)

[mellow echo]

Same with a lot of Spectral Cards. People forget that this is a good thing; the cards changing value over the course of the run.
This is true about Tarot Cards, too

[main mirage]

i have pretty frequently had runs with several utility jokers and one good scorer

[wicked hamlet]

sure

[main mirage]

i think i'd use it with some frequency

[zenith sierra]

Yeah tbh this demo puts util jokers in the spotlight imo

Mainly shortcut carry

[raven pier]

And Xmult

[tender musk]

we gotta start brainstorming which jokers to swap out

[raven pier]

So much Xmult

[zenith sierra]

Bp got canceled for bs (sadge)

[raven pier]

Nobody’s used banner, like at all

[zenith sierra]

Nah whats bs's cost in demo

[wicked hamlet]

tbf it's mostly good for highcard

[zenith sierra]

If it's 10 dollars imma freak

[tender musk]

i saw banner once with ramen

[raven pier]

Yeah, it doesn’t synergize with high score

A lot of these don’t synergize with high score

[zenith sierra]

I mean, it is only 120 chips

With no extra discadds

[mellow echo]

Here's the deal with Flower Pot.

There are Jokers that Reward you for playing a Flush.
Playing one of each suit is the same difficulty as playing a Flush.
Except, one of each suit isn't a poker Hand. There's no potential for synergy.
To play a Straight of all different suits is only half as hard as making just a Straight Flush.

[zenith sierra]

Tbh true

It's hard without wilds

To get diverse suits

[winged pasture]

better with support (wilds + smeared)

[wicked hamlet]

there goes my opinion, drspectred just debunked it

game over

[winged pasture]

Hard to do without support but X3 is pretty large

[lapis remnant]

I feel like bull is underpowered tbh

[zenith sierra]

Flowerpot doesn't include non scored cards iirc?

[lapis remnant]

unless paired with an economy joker it's almost a never take

[wicked hamlet]

what does bill do?

[raven pier]

there's not as much econ in this version though

[lapis remnant]

cuz you won't stock enough money to make it valuable in 8 antes

[raven pier]

bull is +1 chip per $

[lapis remnant]

+1 chip for every dollar

[zenith sierra]

What-

Isn't that just a shit bootstraps?

[wicked hamlet]

pretty much

[main mirage]

probably why it's common yeah?

[lapis remnant]

straps was one mult for each five bucks

[tender musk]

different rarities

[zenith sierra]

Checks out

Min maxing moner seems super funny imo

Although probably more rng with less tarots in play

[mellow echo]

There are Jokers which do nothing unless you have X Enhancement.
You can think of Flower Pot as like that. The "cares about Wilds" Joker.
Does it deliver as much as Steel Joker does?
Does it deliver more, possibly?

[lapis remnant]

having bull or bootstraps directly impacts your ability to do better though

[hot moss]

what does the bull do

[lapis remnant]

cuz you can't buy good jokers without sacrificing mult or chips

[zenith sierra]

^^

Spoofy

[main mirage]

do we have confirmation or denial that flowerpot counts unscored cards in the played hand?

[lapis remnant]

idts

[zenith sierra]

Iirc it didn't with v0.8.8

[lapis remnant]

it's scored suits I think

[hot moss]

ah ok

[mellow echo]

doesn't say has to be scored

[hot moss]

like bootstraps

[main mirage]

ok but localthunk was here like 5 seconds ago and it's 0.9.2 not 0.8.8

[zenith sierra]

Fair

[raven pier]

"Flower Pot (UNCOMMON): X3 Mult if played hand contains a scoring Diamond card, Club card, Heart card, and Spade card"

[zenith sierra]

Wellllllll, I'm just going off what I've seen

[mellow echo]

o

well, that does it

[main mirage]

so 3oak ineligible

[raven pier]

I copied down all the descriptions from Skoottie's stream, it's in the pins

Dan is back on stream lol

[fickle rapids]

DAN RETURNS

[zenith sierra]

Honestly, I always felt that flowerpot should have some reference to the term "rainbow"

As in, when the flop has 3 different suits

[mellow echo]

Lowers read-ability
I wouldn't know what that was

[covert umbra]

DAN WIFI ISSUES

[zenith sierra]

That's true

Just like a thought provoking thing on my mind

[fickle rapids]

a classic storyline

[zenith sierra]

I get alot of those

[lapis remnant]

tbf a lot of joker names/pictures don't have any relation to their effect

they just look pretty

[zenith sierra]

Checks

[mellow echo]

That hurts it a lot. For balance, would either like to see the Mult go higher or not require scoring.

[lapis remnant]

does flower pot need balance?

[zenith sierra]

Probably not

[mellow echo]

I claim it does

[tender musk]

what about X1 for each unique suit

[main mirage]

if you don't balance the flowerpot it'll fall over

[lapis remnant]

there are plenty other jokers that give xmult but require at least four cards played

[main mirage]

and das not gud

[mellow echo]

we'll leave it to the mathologists to decide

[zenith sierra]

I dint think x5 mult is a good ider

[tender musk]

it would be max X4

[main mirage]

how do you get 5 suits

[mellow echo]

x5 would be too much

[main mirage]

5 suit deck we talked about?

[zenith sierra]

X1 + 4 is 5 tf

??????

It starts at x1 no?

[main mirage]

no

[zenith sierra]

What

Oh wait

I'm dumg

[lapis remnant]

spade club diamond heart jonkler

[zenith sierra]

Nvm

[main mirage]

that'd be 2x for one suit lmao

[mellow echo]

everyone hand contains at least one suit

[tender musk]

well, not stone hands

[mellow echo]

you would start getting a bonus after the first suit

[zenith sierra]

I love everyone hands

[main mirage]

stone hands x0 poggg

[tender musk]

but yeah X1 per unique suit would give flowerpot some use outside of 4+ card hands

[zenith sierra]

Actually yeah stone cadds

[tender musk]

oh easy fix

[zenith sierra]

Immediate loss lmao

[tender musk]

"minimum X1"

[main mirage]

ew

[zenith sierra]

Meh might make the wording clunky

[tender musk]

in the grey text

[zenith sierra]

Nvm

Problem solved

[lapis remnant]

with the change flower + smeared could be a good combo

[zenith sierra]

Smeared would nerf the pot

With the rework