🕹・game-discussion

[ancient gyro]

affects speculative burger

[viral raft]

like with that logic Tribe is better because of scoring but that doesn't mean you should buy it lol

[devout wasp]

aw dang hang on lemme download localthunk's opinion so i can be correct

[frozen smelt]

Decide to play this deck for first time in a while and this is the start

I hope it goes well

[knotty zodiac]

the goal we're talking about (different than my initial goal) is "buffing larger hands" right? but maybe the extra 5 cards seen is enough? i suspect flush will need more help with the -1 hand

[viral raft]

me too, Madness low stakes is fun but is obviusly bad if you compare playing with a actually deck instead of just 1 joker

[echo sphinx]

lol real (tribe is a bit lmao in general)

[turbid nova]

Strong jokers, weak jokers
Balatro players should be able to win with their favorites

[patent sail]

i take everything i ever said about vampire back, hes pretty good

[viral raft]

it just sucks, literally any Xmult in pair build is equal or better than Tribe

[echo sphinx]

ye

doesnt get better in higher stakes either

[viral raft]

nope, imo they should buff it to X3mult so maybe that would make Flush more viable

and tbh buff high poker hands in general

[ancient gyro]

that's where I added the idea of retweaking planet scoring

[ancient gyro]

#🎙・server-chat message

[viral raft]

like Full house and Flush

[mellow elk]

What the fuck

[dawn summit]

its peak wdym

[patent sail]

flush xmult joker equal to straight xmult joker? god no

[mellow elk]

Can't believe we're of the same generation

[viral raft]

i know, i hate playing Flush but they should make it viable

[ancient gyro]

my initial idea was +2 discards but that was fundamentally broken

[devout wasp]

oh okay lmao thunk and i don't actually disagree. i agree chad is a balance issue, i don't agree that photochad is a balance issue

[mellow elk]

The problem with photo and chad is their synergy together, not the jokers alone

[viral raft]

Localthunk should focus on making hands like Flush, full house and maybe 3oak more viable overall

[ancient gyro]

it's a fun health issue

[dawn summit]

because i can enjoy a harmless gif

[patent sail]

problem with photo is it exists

[devout wasp]

the problem is chad, and it's a problem not because of photochad, but because of everything

[dawn summit]

photo is completely fine its just chad yea

[viral raft]

Photo alone is garbage, Chad is really good by itself in most of situations

[mellow elk]

True

[cosmic sun]

Chad can stay the way it is or get a nerf and I wouldn't care, it would still be good. Photo is pathetic alone and should not be a brainless speculative pick for chad.

[mellow elk]

Photo can still save sometimes but only in lower rounds

[patent sail]

i love chad the way he is do we need to nerf him

[viral raft]

they should directly delete Photo, does nothing more than make new players play thoses flush face builds

[patent sail]

hes fun

[mellow elk]

Doesn't make much difference later in the run

[dawn summit]

the multiplayer rework for chad is really good imo

[mellow elk]

While Chad is a good chip maker and buff generator

[wraith slate]

first shop baron + 3 judgements cus magic deck into this second chop lmao

[mellow elk]

Even an econ joker ngl

[viral raft]

yeah, imo they should do that in the vanilla game

[mellow elk]

Do it

[patent sail]

god i hate showman

[ancient gyro]

it just happens that ballot has a synergy anomaly among all the compatible options it has and looks at the one that gives card xmult according to the masses

[devout wasp]

what is the multiplayer rework for chad?

[viral raft]

we all hate that crap

[dawn summit]

how can you hate showman

[frank grove]

kinda removes its identity a little bit but it fixes the photochad problem a little i guess i dont even think photochad is a problem

[dawn summit]

retriggers the first and 2nd card once

[cosmic sun]

Everytime someone defends photo I press them and they immediately fold and admit they're doing it because they hope they get chad.

[mellow elk]

"ballot"

[dusty valve]

Why do some mime baron strats use steel kings and others use gold kings? And is there a best one to use?

[devout wasp]

okay yeah that kinda rules

[knotty zodiac]

if chad didnt exist or was rarer, photo at 3x would be a fine early pick, kinda like a slighly worse smiley face

[dawn summit]

thats beautiful

[patent sail]

gold is for money

thats it

[devout wasp]

most use both, but transition gold -> steel. you use gold so you can econmax and look for optimal jokers with rerolls, you use steel because eventually you need the score

[wraith slate]

🙁 I love nat negative showman

[dawn summit]

photochad alone isnt a problem its chad in general, it is so powerful

[dusty valve]

So where I am rn, gold or steel?

[devout wasp]

yeah. photochad is a red herring

[frank grove]

i think chad is mostly fine

[dawn summit]

even the multiplayer rework is still so powerful

[devout wasp]

chad is just straight up a little too good

[knotty zodiac]

chad is cool but seems a bit too good at 2 retriggers and a bit too weak at 1 retrigger

[wraith slate]

got me my first ante 39 naneinf run on anaglyph deck

[dawn summit]

at one retrigger its still extremely good

[serene forge]

what's the problem

[dawn summit]

its just so versatile

[patent sail]

i started drawing showman catwoman but got too lazy to finish that one because showman SUCKS 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥

[mellow elk]

A little bit of gold

[ancient gyro]

whoops

[dusty valve]

Ok

[mellow elk]

I ain't even gonna say anything

[serene forge]

old chad was 1 retrigger and it sucked

[cosmic sun]

Again I would literally not bat an eye at a chad nerf but people pretend like every other chad interaction is extremely unhealthy.

[patent sail]

based!

[viral raft]

Chad is really well designed, the problem is Photo which is only made to thoses generic photochad builds

[mellow elk]

Showman the goat

[patent sail]

lets just delete photo!

[serene forge]

you just did

[frank grove]

yeah i think chad is fine as it is

[knotty zodiac]

extra $3 from gold seal. x4 xmult if you find photo or glass. seems useful but not broken?

[dawn summit]

sucked is definitely overstatement

[viral raft]

exactly! i hate that card

[ancient gyro]

someone didn't play on release patch

[dawn summit]

yea its good like that imo

[frank grove]

i dont reallyt think chad need a nerf? i think its unique and works well for a retrigger joker

[cosmic sun]

Ah yes I get some more money out of Rough Gem or synergy with Lucky Cat which isn't a braindead pick like photo

[viral raft]

Photographg may be the worst designed common joker

[serene forge]

is it

[dawn summit]

i play multiplayer a lot and its one retrigger there

[frank grove]

ist two

[dawn summit]

its still so versatile

[frank grove]

its one on the first and second

its still two triggers

[patent sail]

one less joker without any stickers, im getting a lot of stcikers today

[mellow elk]

I have an idea

[cosmic sun]

Why do multiplayer ppl think they can speak on Balatro

Like deadass ya'll are playing endless lite

[mellow elk]

Just make the plant be more likely to appear if you have photo and chad in the same build

Done

[ancient gyro]

cool, this isn't a multiplayer chat though

[mellow elk]

[serene forge]

plant doesn't counter photochad

[patent sail]

plant does nothing to photochad

[dawn summit]

ah i didnt know old was just one first card, but even still that is completely fine and useful for a common

[patent sail]

get one glass

easy

[frank grove]

multiplayer changes are generally really bad for normal balatro

[serene forge]

in other words

photo sucks chad good

[mellow elk]

What

[viral raft]

when you're sladering Baron and Idol because they directly sucks but then you see the multiplayer player approaching:

[mellow elk]

What is multiplayer

[dawn summit]

multiplayer players know how to make the most out of every little thing to a very gross extent, its still the same game

[mellow elk]

Fair enough

[cosmic sun]

Playing a very narrow definition of Balatro there

[knotty zodiac]

photo is interactive. not strong usually but it's more fun than unconditional scoring. the solution is to make it stronger imo

[frank grove]

but you dont have to worry about bosses, its just a race to who can get idol online the fastest its mostly just a money race and doesnt matter in the context of ante 8 gs runs

[ancient gyro]

multiplayer meta is completely parallel to gsg meta

[patent sail]

are we deadass buffing photochad

[ancient gyro]

yes im changing it to gsg

[dawn summit]

i know

[viral raft]

is literally evil gsg

[knotty zodiac]

that was my next point.. but buffing photochad is bad

[cosmic sun]

More like rework

To not be a parasite to chad

[patent sail]

what if photo was X1 Mult 🐎

[ancient gyro]

so what's the point of bringing up multiplayer where it serves little relevance

[viral raft]

they should rework Photo by making it X3 but being the last played face

[serene forge]

it should be 0.44x mult

[dawn summit]

i barely brought it up lol, i just mentioned the chad rework there is good

because it is

[knotty zodiac]

i like this

[patent sail]

1 in 9.5 chance perhaps

[cosmic sun]

"Uh yeah the chad rework is good in this game mode that is not gold stake"

🤫

[patent sail]

a single face played and its back to photochad

[knotty zodiac]

breaking photochad but still strong, and rewards having other onscore

[dawn summit]

wtf are you talking about

[viral raft]

atleast is rewarding you for playing smart in a way

[knotty zodiac]

"if the last scored card is a face card [...]"

[ancient gyro]

yay j high straight meta

[frank grove]

the multiplayer mod (and its balance) has almost no relevance to vanilla ante 8 gs runs

[cosmic sun]

x3 pre scoring I guess

[viral raft]

i didn't think about that 😭

[dawn summit]

i never said it did

[patent sail]

hey at leadt makes straights a meta and i would love that

[ancient gyro]

i was in support of it

[frank grove]

.

[cosmic sun]

bruh lmao

Multiplayer players know how to bring up multiplayer that's for sure 😭

[ancient gyro]

who wanna play a multiplayer game

[frank grove]

and then say they didnt bring it up 😭

[viral raft]

maybe X3 mult if the last scored card is a face

[knotty zodiac]

whyre we so mad at the multiplayer enjoyoor :<

[dusty valve]

Should I keep copying DNA? Or should I start copying Barron or Mime?

[ancient gyro]

i don't have it im just saying for engagement

[cosmic sun]

I think black++ might look more appealing now

[ancient gyro]

im larping

[viral raft]

Nebula gsg looks more fun than that tbh

😭

[dawn summit]

i mean its not really an incorrect statement, obviously the goal is different being that there isnt boss blinds, but they are compatible with the knowledge you gain in each, i have way more hours in vanilla than multi, and i learned so much from multi because of how precise it forces you to be, anyway all i said was i like the chad rework there, it works well in gold stakes too, obviously not nearly as strong as current chad, which is kinda the point

[ancient gyro]

does mp ballot still retrigger first 2 cards once or did they press the red button on it again

[frank grove]

its one on the first one on the second card

[dawn summit]

yea

[knotty zodiac]

seems like a decent rework

[patent sail]

i like chad the way he is

[frank grove]

me too i dont think chad is that strong in current meta at all

[ancient gyro]

it's fine but that's up to the general masses on how they'll take the changes

[patent sail]

its photo that sucks ass

[frank grove]

also the identity of the joker is that its the first item on the ballot thats the entire point of the design

[dawn summit]

i mean its almost always a pick up and you can easily keep it the whole game, in any stake

[ancient gyro]

it's less strong than it is versatile

[dawn summit]

i think thats too strong for a common

[knotty zodiac]

i think existing retrigger players will hate it... but thats any nerf

[ancient gyro]

chinese speed runners in sts2

[knotty zodiac]

hey we have our own drama now

[mellow elk]

Always skip money tags on the first ante (if the tag is in the small blind)

[cosmic sun]

My proposal was just having a stake evolve jokers but also it would be funny just to see their reactions

[patent sail]

my onyx agate is still completely stickerless somehow

[calm furnace]

waiter waiter ineed more rentals please

[dawn summit]

just harder to find ig

[exotic silo]

uncommon moment fr

[viral raft]

tbh why theres so many bad rewievs on Sts2???

[ancient gyro]

oh they did more balance patches eh

[patent sail]

ive had it several times and every single time i died with it

the curse of onyx agate

[dawn summit]

aw

[cosmic sun]

I think it was the aforementioned chinese speedrunners + shit players or something

[knotty zodiac]

"evolve jokers"

u have my attention

[ancient gyro]

i havent played since five ever

[cedar mauve]

Onyx Agate being a better gluttonous joker is interesting

I guess the other one is meant to be common tho

[viral raft]

And bloodstone being a shitty version of Lusty is pretty sad

[cosmic sun]

Basically up to a certain stake jokers would act like normal while some would be reworked versions of themselves

[ancient gyro]

chinese players didn't like their little nanlet playstyle gimmick being removed

[cosmic sun]

Which would be where photo comes in

[knotty zodiac]

1. chinese community hates infinite nerfs
2. english community gamergate

[viral raft]

ohh i see

[cedar mauve]

Bloodstone you just need to combo with oops but even then

[viral raft]

2 jokers to make a Ancient Joker with a red heart boss counter

[cosmic sun]

But even then you are playing flushes

[viral raft]

that sucks in my books imo

[cosmic sun]

[cedar mauve]

You ain’t wrong about that 💔

[patent sail]

And bloodstone being shitty sad

[cedar mauve]

I never get bloodstone unless I beat the head first

[knotty zodiac]

yes i understood this part

have u redesigned any?

[patent sail]

I never get bloodstone

[eager prawn]

Chad still being most compatible with most jokers

[cosmic sun]

I think photo was gonna just be an actual xmult in my idea

[cedar mauve]

Best joker in the game imo

Excluding bp and bs

[cosmic sun]

The 3x pre scoring seems better tho, if the hand's last card is a face

[dawn summit]

definitely

[cedar mauve]

Chad being a common joker is still insane to me

[calm furnace]

what was thunk thinking when he made rentals

he cooked

[calm furnace]

its a very average joker on its own

[knotty zodiac]

ya i like this but i wonder if it's still broken for photochad HC

[calm furnace]

rebate being common is insane

[cedar mauve]

Oh yeah don’t even get me started

[devout wasp]

imo rarity is orthogonal to card power

[dawn summit]

ticket is really strong too

[cedar mauve]

I love rebate but it needs a nerf

[cosmic sun]

Make it like Seeing Double

[eager prawn]

We need more nerf that if you hold that joker for more than 2 rounds you immediately lose the run

[devout wasp]

rarity is, to my mind, more an indication of complexity than it is of power

[frank grove]

rebate being rebate is what makes it good, even if it was a rare it would still be insane

[cedar mauve]

That’s honestly pretty accurate

[calm furnace]

yeah but you can almost find rebate eveyr run

it being rare makes you find it less tehrefor more balanced

[frank grove]

ehh

[devout wasp]

in that sense rebate makes total sense as a common, and the nerf should maybe be numerical rather than on the level of rarity

[patent sail]

why is my shop all tarots and planets im not plaging jokerless

[cosmic sun]

Also chad is being overrated again

lmao

[cedar mauve]

There’s a lot of commons and uncommons that are better than rares

[eager prawn]

Vouchers?

[knotty zodiac]

it's a bit of both. for ex. i dont think the xmult handspecific rares are that complex

[patent sail]

zodiac deck

[devout wasp]

well yeah it's a bit of both

that's why i said "more" and not completely

[cosmic sun]

It may come as a surprise to people but not all runs need chad

A run could certainly benefit from chad for a bit

[calm furnace]

tbf it works on every run

[cosmic sun]

Or the whole run depending on circumstances

[calm furnace]

chad is that versatile

[cedar mauve]

😱

[dawn summit]

its not about need, its just about it being so useful all the time

[knotty zodiac]

so this is in the context of your proposed chad rarity change? or what are the other implications?

[cosmic sun]

I am not putting chad above Bus or Grimbo

[calm furnace]

mare chad legendary and make chicot common

[cedar mauve]

Ye I mean i always take Chad if I have the option to

[cosmic sun]

Or lord forbid Rebate

[devout wasp]

no i'm not sticking to that change, i was pointing out why i think rebate should stay common

[cedar mauve]

Ok legendary might be giving it too much credit

LMAO

[dawn summit]

any scaling mult is ofc really strong too but chad is just so versatile it works extremely well in every deck

[knotty zodiac]

i see. ya i think itd be better to nerf the dollar amount than to make it rarer

[frank grove]

I really dont think making jokers rarer really balances them just makes them show up less, some of the weakest jokers are uncommons

[dawn summit]

grimbo and bus have drawbacks

[eager prawn]

And glass cards with red seal flush five ez win Chad

[cosmic sun]

"Drawbacks"

Lil sus there

[calm furnace]

chad has drawbacks too

[devout wasp]

like, i do feel like chad makes more sense as an uncommon from a complexity perspective but i'm not gonna die on that hill

[frank grove]

making showman or idol common doesnt make them any better it makes them worse, same general idea as if you made chad or rebate uncommon it would make them better not worse

[dawn summit]

not really

[calm furnace]

mid game it adds nothing to the score if you are not using enhanced cards

[patent sail]

flower pot has a drawbackof taking a joker slot

[ancient gyro]

rarities separate some joker scoring/utility gimmicks in the sense you run into them more often in the portion of the game you're at.

common jokers have two x mult jokers, one locked behind an rng condition and the other being photoslop

uncommon has a lot of xmult and enhancement joker options along with utility based options

rare jokers have no flat mult options which are only really sought out for heavily in early game while having warping abilities

[calm furnace]

and it does nothing to econ without gold seals

[patent sail]

ok vro

[knotty zodiac]

the case for chad as an common** is we need an intro to retriggers, and it appears to be the simplest candidate

[patent sail]

okay vro???

[eager prawn]

Next time play ghost deck and "sell hex"

[cedar mauve]

The game has a sense of humor I see

[cosmic sun]

Dawg said those jokers have drawbacks even though they don't even matter

[devout wasp]

like i said, i'm not dying on that hill

[patent sail]

i would sell this mime instantly if that would make me afford blueprint

[calm furnace]

chad is perfect where it is

[cosmic sun]

You can discard with Green Joker.

[calm furnace]

whats not perfect is the existance of the fish

let the fish drown in the water

[cosmic sun]

You can ignore face cards with Bus all the time.

[dawn summit]

if you have any seal or enhancement its value, any photo/ticket/bs/idol its value, even without any of that its still chips, it not being always very strong is not a drawback

[ancient gyro]

accidentally becomes the strongest of its niche

[eager prawn]

I take riff just for Chad and gold

[calm furnace]

riff raff is the goat

[cedar mauve]

The strongest retrigger joker in history vs the strongest retrigger joker of today

[cosmic sun]

Chad overglaze just indicates where you are in your gold stake gameplay tbh

[dawn summit]

of course but it removes the possibility to effectively interact with them, so no more photo or sock or whatever it may be, obviously bus is still very strong but it is a drawback

[cedar mauve]

(Both are Chad)

[red briar]

hello Balatro game discussion channel

[ancient gyro]

today in history

[cedar mauve]

Shhh

[devout wasp]

hello plasma deck glazer we are doing the 798th chad discourse

[cosmic sun]

Face cards are where I put my devils sometimes that's it

And STM

[calm furnace]

chad has nothing on eternal siltzer

[ancient gyro]

also ballot was some buns during on release patch

[knotty zodiac]

so if 2 is too strong and 1 is too weak

time to make all the bloodstone haters hate me

1 in 2 chance of triggering 3 times

[cedar mauve]

Is that even a thing

[dawn summit]

gold stake doesnt require optimal play so you can have good success there and have either opinion

[ancient gyro]

what would the electoral college think of this one

[patent sail]

i cant make it into a gif so watch it as a video i guess

[calm furnace]

you need he secret code

[cedar mauve]

Teach me your ways 🙏

[cosmic sun]

That is easy to say for anyone who just forces photochad runs and doesn't even streak

[knotty zodiac]

best i can do is a 5-4 decision from the supreme court along party lines

[calm furnace]

im jk 😭

[cedar mauve]

Ik LOL

[calm furnace]

remove cortisolstone from the game next patch

[cedar mauve]

It would be funny tho

[bleak bolt]

left or right

[cosmic sun]

Anyone can randomly win a gold stake with luck

[dawn summit]

photochad is not what makes chad so strong lol its just a part of it

[cedar mauve]

Left

[calm furnace]

dont matter

[eager prawn]

Both

[bleak bolt]

round 1 shop

[ancient gyro]

1-4 buss im gonna go zip lining

[bleak bolt]

pant

[cosmic sun]

So do you just play face builds in GS

[eager prawn]

I would take egg

[cedar mauve]

Niceee

[mellow elk]

Another easy game

[eager prawn]

[mellow elk]

Boring

[devout wasp]

this chat when chad is brought up for the billionth time (the same conclusions will be reached):

[cosmic sun]

Didn't even try denying what I said 💀

[cedar mauve]

We love scaling + mult tho

[dawn summit]

obviously not i play with what the seeds give me

[bleak bolt]

me too

[cedar mauve]

Egg probably better long term tho

Only for Econ ofc lol

[mellow elk]

Not consistent

[bleak bolt]

yeah egg is better econ than pants

[knotty zodiac]

we should talk about prime complex numbers instead

[cosmic sun]

You can say that but people still unironically pick sock retriggers more often than they should LMAO

[mellow elk]

You mean the spare trousers?

[devout wasp]

alright, i'll start. 2 is composite because it's (1 + i)(1 - i)

[cosmic sun]

All imma say is

[eager prawn]

Pants*

[cedar mauve]

Idk man those pants are priceless

[bleak bolt]

bro used the government name

[cosmic sun]

The jokers you pick say a lot about your gameplay

[eager prawn]

It can't speak

[cedar mauve]

I know a guy who’s favorite jokers are square joker and obelisk

[dawn summit]

sqaure is great

[ancient gyro]

apple bottom jeans

[cosmic sun]

Are you sure that's not me?

[knotty zodiac]

i wish i had something intelligent to add here

[cedar mauve]

It might very well be

[ancient gyro]

gulp

[shell dagger]

4 is composite because it is (1+i)^2 (1-i)^2 🤔

[bleak bolt]

holy jackpot

[eager prawn]

New pfp only relying on chad

[devout wasp]

true!

[cosmic sun]

What showman doing there

[devout wasp]

3 is prime, but 5 is composite, in the complex integers. proof left as exercise to reader

[viral raft]

guys did i cook with my resprite of the Hologram background or nah

[cosmic sun]

Gotta be an endless profile

[knotty zodiac]

it's too large to fit in the margins of this chat ig

[bleak bolt]

why did i buy the voucher

[devout wasp]

dang. someone call andrew wiles and richard taylor, stat

[cosmic sun]

kinda fire.

It actually feels like something that could have just been vanilla

[bleak bolt]

too complicated imo

[cloud sinew]

@pale wolf explain hologram's flavour

[eager prawn]

Hologram is the only animated joker apart from legendary jokers?

[devout wasp]

not to my taste personally, a little too busy --- but stepping outside myself i have nothing negative to say

[viral raft]

card have flavours?

[viral raft]

yep

[knotty zodiac]

i like the pattern. needs more distinction between foreground/bg. maybe just make it darker?

[cloud sinew]

proverbial flavour. it means their theming : effect in this case

[pale wolf]

holodeck?

[cosmic sun]

Probably lower contrast on the bg

[viral raft]

yeah i made that but maybe i should make it more darker

[eager prawn]

[bleak bolt]

it is back

[cosmic sun]

Just enough to be noticeable but to make the jimbo in the center pop ig

[eager prawn]

Do you guys take rental egg?

[knotty zodiac]

almost never

[viral raft]

this is enough or nah?

[cosmic sun]

Prolly more

If you could overlay a png of holo jimbo that'd probably help

[knotty zodiac]

beyond the income lump problem, rental egg is also usually negative income early bc rental fee digs into interest

[viral raft]

ok

[clear mulch]

thought this was a minesweeper joker

[eager prawn]

Yeah it's a pain without temperance

[eager prawn]

[clear mulch]

you can do that with the "soul smth smth" attribute i kinda forgot just copy it from hologram

the floating sprite

[knotty zodiac]

Minesweeper Joker (uncommon)

+5 mult per discard/hand used
Resets when [7 of clubs] is drawn. Card changes every round (weighted to deck)

[clear mulch]

no more deckfixing ok

[viral raft]

it's a hologram background resprite so already has the smth smth floating sprite

[clear mulch]

meow meow meow yay

[tardy spade]

imagine if joker editions trrigered every time the joker triggered

[tardy spade]

just get a deck full of stone cards and you'll never draw the ace of spades

[knotty zodiac]

kinda deserve to win at this point

[tardy spade]

also that seems incredibly luck-based

[devout wasp]

dies to doom blade, 2 / 5

wait my bad wrong card game

[tardy spade]

like if you just accidentally draw the 1 specfiic card then you lose

even if you don't scale it

after 7 rounds you are statistttically likely to have drawn the card

[rustic haven]

finally unlocked andrew 😭

been working on it all morning

[knotty zodiac]

it's not supposed to scale to infinity. the original thought was that it disincents digging until you hit the card, and then reincents it

the idea is hands should proc it around 10-20 mult

[bleak bolt]

cute

[patent sail]

spongebob build

[rustic haven]

soulmates

[echo sphinx]

spongebob squarepants

[bleak bolt]

this is correct then

[viral raft]

What about now @cosmic sun @clear mulch

looks better or nah

[rustic haven]

jimbob squaretrousers

[rustic haven]

my eyes

[knotty zodiac]

lots of improvement imo, i like

[devout wasp]

i think my real issue with it in practice is, if you see this joker, you're almost never taking it, because the payoff is never enough to justify the joker slot except when no other options are available --- so the actual impact it would have on the value of digging is zero, since the people who want to dig will just, not take it

[tardy spade]

I never noticed the hologram on hologram floats over the edition

[viral raft]

it can't be that bad 😭

[viral raft]

yeah now jimbo looks way sexier than before because of the background

[knotty zodiac]

fair, so then the only remaining value is the minigame when playing early antes. prob not enough to be compelling

[devout wasp]

like, it feels like it'd just in practice just be a worse misprint with more requirements, and with worse variance

[hearty tusk]

I might be a masochist

Because why in the hell do I keep going back to gs black deck

[patent sail]

how it feels to willingly spend your time to play black deck

[devout wasp]

which, isn't fully a reason it "shouldn't" be in the game, to be clear --- i think it's fine and good and inevitable that some things are mostly just bad

[terse dock]

just have 1 hand size

[hearty tusk]

Black deck making me discover new things about myself man

[serene forge]

I <3 yuri

[patent sail]

just dont lose

[devout wasp]

if every joker in the game was magically made good somehow, then immediately, as if by the laws of nature, "good" and "bad" will immediately reassert themselves as categories

[hearty tusk]

Wouldnt be less about being bad and more about being who's "more good"?

[patent sail]

ante 2 spongebob build we are winning

[terse dock]

if there are only good jokers, then there are no good jokers

[devout wasp]

the thing is, bad is always relative in a game like this, because everything has the opportunity cost of not having something else

[hearty tusk]

Communism

[devout wasp]

so if you made all the things people currently designate bad into something good, then other jokers (or maybe even the same ones) would come to be seen as bad in the new meta

[terse dock]

if there are only bad jokers, then there are no bad jokers too

[rustic haven]

this is why we always go bloodstone because it only needs itself

[patent sail]

only needs itself to do nothing

[knotty zodiac]

is the variance worse than misprint tho? you have more control over the mult than you do with misprint.

ig the biggest problem i see is it makes large hands awful to draw for, which reinforces pair meta

[devout wasp]

but there are manifestly differences in degree. the only way to have "no" good or bad jokers is if all jokers were somehow equal in eval, which, even if possible, is obviously not desirable from a design perspective

[rustic haven]

hey thats not true

it does something

[cosmic sun]

Better.

[rustic haven]

it sits there and does nothing

[patent sail]

aka miss

[rustic haven]

which is something

[devout wasp]

you only have control over it if you maximally don't dig, which gives you less latitude for how you play around it, and you can still be screwed by the opening draw

[rustic haven]

i wanna make a meme

but idk how

[patent sail]

what meme

[devout wasp]

the odds that misprint blanks are 1/24, the odds that this joker blanks itself are a fair bit higher

[rustic haven]

"hi welcome to the burger store what can i get for you?"

"yeah ill have the nothing burger"

hands over picture of bloodstone

[vale shale]

Fantastic my phone didn't charge while it was plugged in

[knotty zodiac]

getting "screwed" by the opening draw means you burn 2 discards and get +10 for the first hand, +15 for the 2nd hand, etc.

this makes it comparable if not better than mystic summit in that scenario?

[vale shale]

Jimbotastic

[patent sail]

are you on mobile? get something like picsart of ibispaint

[pearl hinge]

Do you know if it's a problem with the chord, outlet, or the phone itself?

[patent sail]

oh hey there

[rustic haven]

i am yeah, ill look into it later

[vale shale]

The adapter was not plugged correctly

[pearl hinge]

Heya :3

[devout wasp]

but if it functions on both hands and discards, does it actually do anything to digging?

[patent sail]

a russian individual has hit the #🕹・game-discussion

[vale shale]

Who

Wait guys

[patent sail]

me

[vale shale]

Guess what

[rustic haven]

maybe the guy with a russian name

[patent sail]

ofc

[rustic haven]

not sure tho

[pearl hinge]

My mind immediately goes to "phone didn't charge = phone broken" bcz my phone doesn't charge overnighr half the time

Anyway

[rustic haven]

ok byebye i go farm gs ghost deck

[patent sail]

soul in two runs back to back thats pretty good

[rustic haven]

thats a big word for a small gay like myself

[devout wasp]

the EV just seems terrible in any situation --- i would not personally take the joker unless it were 4 dollars

and even then i'm looking to get out of it asap

[vale shale]

Holy twink

[rustic haven]

i am a twink/femboy yes this has been established many times

thats not...

[patent sail]

hell yea

[devout wasp]

but part of that is also how the minesweeper joker would, in the long term, put pressure against any kind of deckfixing

[hoary zodiac]

twinning

[rustic haven]

trans and femboy are different

but

[patent sail]

gaylatro

[rustic haven]

pop off

[undone talon]

hello everyone

im back

[rustic haven]

i have a bf

[undone talon]

with a trib

[patent sail]

saying ts like its a bad thing

[vale shale]

Ok bye someone called flush lover is here

[undone talon]

cold

[iron vigil]

That's kinda straight bro

[undone talon]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hoary zodiac]

That's kinda bitchy bro

[undone talon]

flush is too good

[vale shale]

Flush like flush the toilet

[undone talon]

bruhhhh

flush is too good wtfff

[serene forge]

i love being gay

[iron vigil]

actually cannot believe there is not a toilet joker

[knotty zodiac]

yes bc digging is just seeing more cards. you play or discard as few cards as possible if you need mult right now and havent hit the reset cards.

[undone talon]

hornet is les trust

[rustic haven]

yaoi & yuri > anything else

[undone talon]

yuri is better ngl

[serene forge]

I <3 yuri

[hoary zodiac]

[rustic haven]

okay so i didnt ask

[patent sail]

we ALL (yes WE ALL) love being gay here

[undone talon]

https://giphy.com/gifs/project-sekai-pjsk-colourful-stage-Ur5uLpMbQC6H7Fnsw1

[rustic haven]

anyway

[vale shale]

She's so based

[rustic haven]

just like we yes we all love playing bloodstone right guys?

[undone talon]

i love bloodstone whatttttttt

[hoary zodiac]

-# mirai Kimi dai noko aidesho natsu a sai teshi ma da bakenohana

[pearl hinge]

Balatro is the name of a lesbian ethnostate

[patent sail]

🦗

[undone talon]

huh

[rustic haven]

right?

[vale shale]

Bye

[rustic haven]

okay hater

[serene forge]

blocked

[rustic haven]

twin what

how could you

[serene forge]

hehehehe

[vale shale]

I can support whatever you say but not when you say bloodstone is good I'm sorry

[undone talon]

nah bloodstone isnt good but its fun

balatro is abt fun not abt good

[patent sail]

i kinda want that

[vale shale]

Wow what a word

[knotty zodiac]

right, it ruins most deckfixing. so the upside or downside probably need to be adjusted.

it should be made to be at least better than misprint and summit

[serene forge]

when I have a child they can be anything they want, except a bloodstone user

[patent sail]

30 hearts in the deck

also why would you even want to have it

[undone talon]

whyyy

bloodstone is fun

[serene forge]

no its not

[pearl hinge]

Bloodstone when RNG will be present at the function

[patent sail]

you know her??? wow!

[undone talon]

yes it is bro

[serene forge]

its funny

[undone talon]

bro u js get oops and lucky

[serene forge]

its so bad its laughable

[undone talon]

such a fun build#

[patent sail]

most of the time, nothing

[vale shale]

Stickef

[vale shale]

Well duh

[patent sail]

plinko isnt that bad

[vale shale]

Bro playing on misprint deck

[patent sail]

trib

[vale shale]

Trib

[serene forge]

*trib

[patent sail]

lmao

[tulip minnow]

whoch bloodstone are you using that its those numbers

[serene forge]

its vanilla

[patent sail]

its like that in game wdym

[tulip minnow]

u sure?

[vale shale]

Actually not false

[knotty zodiac]

no it was driven by the twitter-gamergate pipeline

[serene forge]

if I could choose between getting hrt and removing bloodstone from the game I would pick the latter

[undone talon]

cant tell when u guys are ragebaiting or not

[vale shale]

Trib is good

[patent sail]

i almost got mouthed

[undone talon]

yh ik

[vale shale]

But it's the worst legendary

[undone talon]

HOW

its js an early idol

[tulip minnow]

id argue it's perkeo

[serene forge]

so, garbage?

[vale shale]

It's the most situational legendary joker vro 😭

[undone talon]

so chicot better than trib yh?

[rustic haven]

trib bc idol exists

[rustic haven]

yes

[vale shale]

Yes by like a mile

[undone talon]

huhh

[rustic haven]

making balatro a nothing burger is much easier

[serene forge]

trib is strong but gets hard countered by bosses and is antithetical to standard gold stake strategy

[undone talon]

other than chicot bug how is he usefyul

[serene forge]

(onscored xmult in this game is kinda trash by default)

[undone talon]

and yorrick

[patent sail]

canio

[rustic haven]

canio

[vale shale]

My opinion is
Yorick > canio > chicot > perkeo > trib

[undone talon]

when u go into endless yorrick scaling isnt exponential

[patent sail]

bro just eats all the hanged men i swear

[undone talon]

aint no way

[serene forge]

endless doesn't exist

[patent sail]

yeah true

[vale shale]

The goal of the game is ante 8 vro

[undone talon]

i forgot that everyone here doesnt like endless or smth 💀

[rustic haven]

i love hung men

[patent sail]

endless? whats that

[undone talon]

mbe ur right

[knotty zodiac]

perkeo is for sure in top 4

[serene forge]

there's like 4 good jokers for endless

[vale shale]

Endless is 😴

[undone talon]

mbe roffle lite ruined my balatro mind

[serene forge]

everything else is objectively shit

and thus endless is never a point of discussion

[patent sail]

WHY do you watch roffle

[vale shale]

For sleep

[undone talon]

WHATTTT roffle is so fun

[serene forge]

since the game was never designed around it

[undone talon]

for sleep yh

[patent sail]

yall need youtube for sleep???

god damn

[rustic haven]

ya

i dont need it

[undone talon]

nah but like roffle is soothing bro

[rustic haven]

but i like it

[patent sail]

insane vro

[rustic haven]

i watch bean tho

[brave echo]

is credit card good

[rustic haven]

for sleep

[serene forge]

no roffle just puts you to sleep because endless is so boring

[patent sail]

no

[rustic haven]

roffle good background sound

[knotty zodiac]

bean is 100% soothing

[rustic haven]

yes

[brave echo]

ok thanks

[rustic haven]

love bean

[vale shale]

No but when I watch roffle at night by like 30 minute mark my eyes get tired while he looks at chat, and barrates his chat

[brave echo]

ill sell it

[knotty zodiac]

if i had a crying baby refusing to sleep i would play bean vids lol

[serene forge]

bad but inoffensive

usually its just 1 dollar of temperance value

[brave echo]

is gluttonous joker BAD

[vale shale]

No

[patent sail]

have yall tried closing your eyes and putting your head on a pillow idk

[brave echo]

caps

ok

[knotty zodiac]

it's fine

[knotty zodiac]

who does that?

[brave echo]

misprint?

[vale shale]

What

[brave echo]

is misprint good?

[patent sail]

me after ive had my phone time (usually till 2-3 am)

[vale shale]

Do you just sleep without pillows

[undone talon]

who doies that

sleeping without a pillow is diabolical

[patent sail]

chat?

what does this mean

[undone talon]

photochad

[vale shale]

No best common is obviously golden joker

[knotty zodiac]

best common is rebate

[patent sail]

best common is photo because roffle said that!

[brave echo]

am i allowed to send a screenshot of a card from my current run so i can know what it does

[knotty zodiac]

yes

[patent sail]

thats not what i meant but okay

[brave echo]

or would that be breaking the rules

[cosmic sun]

I like how in the "Balatro has a pair problem" video by BU he mentions that we all have irrational likes and dislikes for jokers

[cosmic sun]

Like how Roffle hates Castle

[patent sail]

ofc 🐎🎉

[brave echo]

what does this od

do*

[iron vigil]

eats jokers

[undone talon]

madnessss

[iron vigil]

gains xmult

[brave echo]

no i know what it does but is it food

good*

[patent sail]

crimes

[vale shale]

I hate flowerpot

[brave echo]

i cant type

[iron vigil]

pretty good if you get it early game and get time to scale

[vale shale]

And so does 80% of the people here

[iron vigil]

and also if you have eternal jokers

[undone talon]

wait do so do u guys js not play endless?

when u get to it

[iron vigil]

or good leveled up planets

[knotty zodiac]

destroys random joker if it can, then the xmult goes up. good with eternal jokers, which u probably dont have yet. it pushes you towards taking planets for scoring and gold cards for money

[patent sail]

yup

[brave echo]

is it good round 4?

[vale shale]

Yes I don't

[undone talon]

SRSLY?

[patent sail]

yup

[undone talon]

HUH NO WAY

respectable honestly

[patent sail]

whats endless that doesnt exist

[vale shale]

Best I can go for is ante 9

[iron vigil]

Eh, not really

[brave echo]

and without eternal jokers

[iron vigil]

i wouldn't take it

[undone talon]

playing the game like it was intended tbh

[brave echo]

if its an unlock i dont have it

[vale shale]

Then when it's ante 10 I just start a new run

[undone talon]

my record is ante 20 rn

[patent sail]

withiut eternals its so bad

[brave echo]

ok so i wont take it

[knotty zodiac]

unless youre super attached to the run i would take it

[undone talon]

baron mime 🤣

[knotty zodiac]

it's fun to try

[undone talon]

rhat was it

[brave echo]

does it actually do nothing

[undone talon]

no

[serene forge]

yes

[patent sail]

deck stake wins 😭

[vale shale]

Yes

[undone talon]

u get smth nice after

[brave echo]

wow

[undone talon]

what

[serene forge]

so it does nothing

[knotty zodiac]

once you buy it 10 times, you unlock something for future runs

[undone talon]

i lost my account

[patent sail]

if you get really lucky and unlock the tier 2

[undone talon]

lmao true gay hornet

[brave echo]

so i wont buy that yet

[serene forge]

I <3 yuri

[undone talon]

you wld defo like deo

[patent sail]

it actually does nothing, but tier 2 of it does do something

[iron vigil]

Yes

[brave echo]

what?

[iron vigil]

It does nothing

[brave echo]

WRONG MESSAGE

[patent sail]

you need to buy blank 10 times to unlock its tier 2

[brave echo]

what?

[vale shale]

Remember when we thought -1 ante -1 hand was just bad 🥀

[iron vigil]

It allows you to hold one extra nothing

[patent sail]

+1 joker slot

but yet again you need to unlock tier 2 by buying blank 10 times AND get really lucky to get tier 2 after it

[heavy heron]

bro whay is this no justice

[vagrant pike]

YOOOOOO

[patent sail]

nope!

[undone talon]

niceeeee

[vale shale]

Gg

[brave echo]

370 THOUSAND?

[patent sail]

it buys you time which you REALLY need sometimes

[vale shale]

I'm a nice person, gg on any people even people who do flush builds

[brave echo]

HOW CRAZY DOES THIS GAME GET???

[patent sail]

it gets into powers of 10

[vale shale]

You can get not a number score

You can also get 1 chip score

Which is seemingly harder to get than naneinf

[iron vigil]

huh

[patent sail]

e308

[vale shale]

1 chip

[undone talon]

damn

[patent sail]

that one money challenge

[undone talon]

nat neg burnt joker

[vale shale]

I mean realistically it is harder because you didn't how to do it

[undone talon]

btw this is my first gold stake deck

[vale shale]

But if you did know it it's easy as pie now

[iron vigil]

oh is it actually just the money challenge i thought it'd be some cooler tech

[undone talon]

i think im gonna ankh the trib here

[vale shale]

It's impossible on vanilla

[patent sail]

yeahhh the chips = money one

[vale shale]

Even on the right conditions

[iron vigil]

ah damn

[undone talon]

praying i dont die now

[iron vigil]

is the lowest possible vanilla score 3 chips?

[vale shale]

I think the least score you can gwt is 3

[iron vigil]

ah

[vale shale]

On vanilla

[vale shale]

The plant

[patent sail]

i will actually try it on my phone because that cant be true

[undone talon]

so i shld be fine

[iron vigil]

[undone talon]

ahahahahaha real

[vale shale]

Did bro just ecto on ante 4 🥀

[patent sail]

i refuse to believe it

[undone talon]

guess what i play for the love of the game

[vale shale]

Ngl

If you lose that's kinda heartbreaking

[iron vigil]

I mean it appears to be pairslop

[undone talon]

yh ik but who cares 🤷‍♂️

[undone talon]

no its four of a kind slop

[iron vigil]

Wghat the fuck

[undone talon]

why not?

[vale shale]

Pretty sure

Wait

It might be 5

[patent sail]

??

[vale shale]

Idk how you get a debuffed card on the flint

[patent sail]

debuffed high card on flint is 3

[vale shale]

How

[patent sail]

that one challenge

the

uhhh

[vale shale]

Yeah but like

[iron vigil]

vanially

[patent sail]

all deck red seal

[vale shale]

On a deck dexk

On a deck deck

Not on challenge

[knotty zodiac]

fragile

[patent sail]

challenges are vanilla

[patent sail]

no

[hearty tusk]

Its genuienly just torture

[vale shale]

The other challenge

[hearty tusk]

Like

[patent sail]

DOUBLE OR NOT

YEAH

THAT ONE

[vale shale]

I meant not on challengw

The lowest one is probably 5 chips

[patent sail]

well damn shoulda clarified that

[hearty tusk]

Why the fuck am I doing this tl myself

[undone talon]

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

[patent sail]

i thought vanilla as in unmodded

[undone talon]

so i may be done

[vale shale]

Straight

Wait no

Even probably a 3oak is fine

[undone talon]

lmaoooo

its over

[patent sail]

in-fucking-sane

[undone talon]

i needed 18k

playing dead cells and hades so much has made me not care abt these losses lmao

need to hop on hades 2 eventually

[brave echo]

is even steven good

[patent sail]

depends on the situation

hes not bad objectively but may be not too useful sometimes

[brave echo]

do i sell

since i have riff raff and max hand

[patent sail]

man i dont know your game situation rn

[brave echo]

i think ill sell gluttonous joker i dont think hes that good

well i cant send a screenshot of the run here can i

[patent sail]

uhhhh you can

[brittle ocean]

If you include challenges then the challenge where chips can’t be greater than money would allow a score of 1 right?

[brave echo]

cus this isnt run discussion

[patent sail]

thats what the channel is for 😭

[patent sail]

#🕹・run-discussion is DEAD nobody cares about it

[brave echo]

i dont want to break the rules

ohh ok

[undone talon]

game and run discussion same thing

lmaoooo

[patent sail]

literally nobody cares about that be free to do it

[undone talon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-1720

this is my cat

[patent sail]

JUST THAT RULE

[vale shale]

I don't think you can get 1

[patent sail]

other ones are real

[brave echo]

do i sell even steven and gluttonous joker

[brittle ocean]

I think #🕹・run-discussion has been used slightly more for endless runs and #🕹・game-discussion has been used slightly more for ante 8 runs

[patent sail]

i guess so yea

[vale shale]

Run discussion is used for runs and game discussion is used for runs got it

[patent sail]

would i take dna over jimbo for stickering purposes?

[brittle ocean]

Which I suppose I contribute to cause I talk about all my endless shit in run discussion

[brittle ocean]

Got it

[undone talon]

people here dont know what that one word means

ante 8 is the limit

[knotty zodiac]

all i know is i tend to get way more engagement in #game-discussion so...

[patent sail]

id assume dna may be harder to sticker due to being rare idk

[bleak bolt]

take hallucination or run

[brittle ocean]

Definitely more traffic in game discussion

[knotty zodiac]

uncommons are slightly harder than rares and theyre both quite a bit harder than commons

[patent sail]

i also have buffoon skip, i already beat final boss easily so i might look into that in case of something like cola/luchador/showman/bean/etc

probably dumb but my econ is dead so i cant reroll

[patent sail]

wrecked by ante 7 ox

[undone talon]

lets see the run

[iron vigil]

So, i was looking a bit deeper into the flint, does anyone recall if the mult can go below 1?

I don't think so right?

[rustic haven]

whats a good number to get pair at to start scaling ob?

i was gonna do 20

[undone talon]

idk like 50

[knotty zodiac]

12-15

[rustic haven]

son.

[undone talon]

lmaooooooooo

[rustic haven]

yeah i beat yellow deck gs on 13 pairs so

im on painted

[patent sail]

meh, zodiac seems more fun for stickering purposes

also my econ WAS fine until the ante 7 ox, yellow wouodnt do anything about that

[rustic haven]

so its a lot easier

to draw other shit

[clear mulch]

make it darker

[rustic haven]

ok ty

[ionic jungle]

I beat orange stake lets gooo

[clear mulch]

what deck

[patent sail]

the ox 😭😭😭😭 i said it like 3 times

[ionic jungle]

Blue

[clear mulch]

kewl

[ionic jungle]

Almost 1/15th of the way to c+

[patent sail]

sock for gold sticker over jimbo? maybe? idk?

[ionic jungle]

Or however many decks there are

[hearty tusk]

CHAR

[patent sail]

oh yeah lemme just pull one out of my ass

[hearty tusk]

CHAT

IS THIS IT?! A FIRST SHOP WRAITH?!

ARE WE FINALLY DOING IT BOYS, GALS AND NON BINAS?!

[iron vigil]

something something bullshit is only as good as other jokers you have

sorry brainstorm

[cloud sinew]

why did you open the spectral 😭

[patent sail]

ALEEB seed

[hearty tusk]

I lost all hope

[cloud sinew]

youre playing seeded

[patent sail]

also im on gold stake hunting gold stickers

would i take sock for stickering over jimbo? id assume sock can carry a face run later so its not really worth it here

[knotty zodiac]

q: im having trouble with boss blind
a: play white stake seeded

[knotty zodiac]

i always take noncommons first

[cloud sinew]

you cant change the seed and stake mid-run

[knotty zodiac]

might as well just turn debug mode on

[patent sail]

okay but i want gold stickers

c++

[brave echo]

whats a poker hand

[rustic haven]

god damn what a line up

imagine canio

rah

[patent sail]

open Run Info

[cloud sinew]

The hands in run info are poker hands

[patent sail]

what is ue twin

[cloud sinew]

the context of your question would help me answer it better though

an achievement

[patent sail]

completionist++ achievement

all jokers with gold sticker

[slow grail]

Fun run

Rarely happens when I’m on plasma

[undone talon]

how dare u invoke endless

[patent sail]

no 😭😭😭😭😭

[undone talon]

im joking i love endless

sad times

[patent sail]

madness having a feast

[clear mulch]

why even buy perishable brainstorm

oh the money

[cloud sinew]

econ

[clear mulch]

okee

[undone talon]

because.
i play for de love of de game

[knotty zodiac]

gz on c+?

[brave echo]

how do i open run info

[undone talon]

theres a big ref button

red

that says

[vale shale]

Helo gamers. 1 take gold stake run any deck. Which deck are we thinking bout.

[undone talon]

run info

[clear mulch]

yea but like they're at ante 4, it's -1 joker slot for 5 antes

[cloud sinew]

press the button that says run info

[knotty zodiac]

dreen

[patent sail]

geen

[undone talon]

black deck

BLACK

[patent sail]

lmao

[undone talon]

BLACK

[knotty zodiac]

wow two typos

[vale shale]

Dren

[knotty zodiac]

same mind

[undone talon]

dlack dlakc

[terse dock]

what if there was a tung tung tung sahur joker

[patent sail]

mines intentional

[cloud sinew]

no thanks

AI slop is not welcome in trobalo

[patent sail]

quitting the game

[knotty zodiac]

i have boomer fingers 🪦

[lost vault]

i wish tung tung tung sahur wasnt ai slop

😔

[patent sail]

now The Duo and Jimbo are gold stickered and pretty

[lost vault]

??

[lost vault]

whart

[vale shale]

That's a wish I've never heard

[cloud sinew]

halo elites

[vale shale]

Usually the wishes I hear are unlimited money

Happiness

[terse dock]

what if there was a fung fung fung fungus joker

[lost vault]

no fungal slop in balatro

[clear mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1447827511701409852.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=strawber&lossless=true

[vale shale]

Is bro saying he wants to naneinf on challenge deck

[patent sail]

thats like a common russian saying i think, as to say "my problems are worse so stop complaining" (i dont think they quite meant that here though)

[clear mulch]

what if there was a strawber joker

[patent sail]

what if there was a horse

[lost vault]

thats a shitty saying johnestly

well

maybe depends on the context

[cloud sinew]

nah

[lost vault]

but like problems are valid

even if others have it worse

[cloud sinew]

i dont think theres a context where that really makes sense

[lost vault]

i dunno

ai sucks

[knotty zodiac]

there are starving children and therefore no one else's problems are real

[cloud sinew]

fuck AI

[clear mulch]

gender envy (?)

[patent sail]

ai sucks

that simple