🕹・game-discussion

[carmine hollow]

This shi warms my heart

Isn't hand size nerf shoot the moon

[deft sandal]

this might be the end of me

[humble gulch]

I have extra hand size, it's fine

[carmine hollow]

#🕹・run-discussion

[deft sandal]

#🃏・off-topic

[carmine hollow]

Lmao

Back to the game topic

[deft sandal]

look at this, my favourite 4x Mult joker

NAT NEGATIVE IDOL

[carmine hollow]

Is there new enchencment for joker or whatever it was called named monochrome

I just wonder what there left to create for the enchencments

[carmine hollow]

So what

[deft sandal]

[carmine hollow]

Is idol choose cards from the deck?

Because otherwise i feel like it's shi

[deft sandal]

yes

[carmine hollow]

Fine

[deft sandal]

its not as shit as AJ

[carmine hollow]

AJ?

[deft sandal]

Ancient joker

[carmine hollow]

Ancient Joker is my buddy at scoring

You can't say that

Sometimes he's good sometimes he isn't

Infact he useful more time then idol

[deft sandal]

but you can't think it's consistent unless you have all the wild cards in your deck

[carmine hollow]

You just think you better because you don't use easier joker or something

[humble gulch]

Bottom decked

[humble gulch]

I hope you're joking

[carmine hollow]

Ancient if my buddy

[deft sandal]

which means you can't change it to glass to save your life

[carmine hollow]

That not true

Dude

Stop shitting

It's fine joker

[deft sandal]

[humble gulch]

He's joking, of course no one thinks idol is actually good

[carmine hollow]

What does white stake emoji means

[shy tangle]

The good banana

[carmine hollow]

I didn't say idol is bad

Turn on your brain

And open eyes

[upper spade]

All natural spawns btw.

[humble gulch]

Idol is actual trash

[carmine hollow]

Why's that

[humble gulch]

(Gold stake)

[knotty zodiac]

idol kinda sucks white stake too ngl

a8

[humble gulch]

Not consisten at all, you're not getting your deck fixed in 8 antes, retrigger dependent and if you rely on it with an unfixed deck you will just die

[carmine hollow]

What's all this buzz with white stake

[carmine hollow]

There sometimes it work byt i feel like when you made good deck you probably don't need idol

[bleak blaze]

Chat I need help

[carmine hollow]

It always like that for me

[bleak blaze]

Whats the best configuration here?

[humble gulch]

You never need idol, the only thing he actually does is baseball card value

[carmine hollow]

They all the same

Dude

[bleak blaze]

Blueprint Copying Baron? Or Blueprint Copying Mime?

[carmine hollow]

Oh wait no

You should retrigger king

[humble gulch]

Two baron one mime

[carmine hollow]

2x2=4
1x3=3

Genius actually

Gonna remember that

[bleak blaze]

So which should I copy?

[humble gulch]

The card itself counts as a retrigger so it's 4 retriggers and 4 scoring effects

[humble gulch]

Blueprint on mime, the two brainstorms on baron

[bleak blaze]

Thanks

[carmine hollow]

Oh yea

[carmine hollow]

Go to the #🕹・run-discussion next time

[bleak blaze]

No antimatter or ectos is realllly kicking my ass as well

[knotty zodiac]

lot of ppl here like winning on hard difficulties consistently (winstreak)

others like rerolling runs until they get a good one. usually this is at a lower stake like white stake

the two are fighting an endless war

[carmine hollow]

Please

[carmine hollow]

So why emoji

[humble gulch]

It's basically an insult at this point

[bleak blaze]

Don't backseat mod me

[knotty zodiac]

charitably put, it's "this opinion does't make any sense for gold stake"

[bleak blaze]

Thanks

[faint linden]

Blue/Purple is the worst part of progression

[thin finch]

brainstorm?

[humble gulch]

Yes

[carmine hollow]

It feel not like insult but like when you go and you quietly grumble about a person, but so that they can hear.

[humble gulch]

I mean, it's still an insult

But like

[carmine hollow]

Cool i guess

[humble gulch]

At the level of "idiot"

[faint linden]

It's Jimbo! Can you please sign this?

[carmine hollow]

Why would somebody care

I feel like they just grindy and sweaty

Because white stake is fun , few first stakes are fun

It's like

[humble gulch]

Because it's funny that we have white staker as a term

[carmine hollow]

"oh I'm so good"

[faint linden]

Then blue happens

[carmine hollow]

For a tryhards

Like gibus in tf2

[stone shell]

white stake just means you dont play at a difficult enough level to discern whats good and bad and a certain take shows that

[humble gulch]

It can be fun, but people enjoy harder things, wouldn't you get bored if you play the same difficulty all the time?

[carmine hollow]

All this "terms" in so kust people can hate someone on internet

[stone shell]

i.e "baron is good"

[thin finch]

surely winning madness in gold stake good enuf to life someone 🥹

[faint linden]

For Ante 8? Not really. For naneinf? Essential unless you're Doc

[knotty zodiac]

tbh ppl who enjoy white stake dont bother me

it's the ppl making game losing decisions and spamming their salt blaming the game

and ppl who offer their highroll strats to ppl who are discussing high winrate strategies

[humble gulch]

Yeah

That too

[brittle ocean]

You mean I shouldn’t suggest baron mime blueprint brainstorm to someone attempting gsg?

[humble gulch]

Exactly

[carmine hollow]

It's an insult , you said that , also you have completiionist of course you gonna say that , all i say is terms like this exist only to spread hate on the internet

[humble gulch]

Unless I already have baron mime

[knotty zodiac]

idk what youre talking about. works for me every time

[carmine hollow]

Offtopc but summer weather is so cool

[humble gulch]

I mean, we only say them to actual idiots

[carmine hollow]

Why am I an "idiot"?

[humble gulch]

Did I say you?

[carmine hollow]

I feel like people just throw shit

[brittle ocean]

I think that’s mainly when you tell them to go to #🕹・run-discussion

[stone shell]

idol is an excellent joker...

[carmine hollow]

That what channel description says

[stone shell]

...at making you rage when it hits the 1 in 34 cards

[humble gulch]

Real

[carmine hollow]

I don't think that is a good reason to insult

But i really don't care

Shi weather is excellent

[knotty zodiac]

i didnt and wouldnt insult you but tbh the backseat modding is a bit annoying

[carmine hollow]

I'm now smiley joker

[humble gulch]

It usually goes bad/wrong statement > someone corrects them > they start being a jerk about it saying "that's not true"

And then they deserve it

Like, you asked for advice, we gave you advice

And then they say that it's not true...

[spring radish]

im gonna advertise now, PLAY 2V2 PLEASE!

[stone shell]

if i hypothetically say superposition is good will i get whitestake'd

[humble gulch]

Not really

[stone shell]

welp theres my answer

[knotty zodiac]

hm i disagree but curious

[humble gulch]

Because we know you don't actually think that lol

[carmine hollow]

So it's just gibus but for balatro

You know what I'm think

Y'all just stupid

[stone shell]

i genuinely think its fine esp if you get luck with a few hunged men

[carmine hollow]

Hunger man

[humble gulch]

Just like that

[carmine hollow]

Eat 2 selected cards

[carmine hollow]

I mean there will be always idiots in community

Especially hyped one

Dudes think they smartest

Like Reddit users

[humble gulch]

There's already a few known ones

[brittle ocean]

Guys why isn’t my bootstrap idol showman flower pot stone joker build beating white stake

[carmine hollow]

What flower even do

[knotty zodiac]

bc youre missing photochad

[brittle ocean]

x3 mult if played hand has every suit

[carmine hollow]

Bro

[stone shell]

3x mult if you score every suit

[carmine hollow]

I know

[humble gulch]

I accept that some people don't like admitting being beginners, but like, bro, just accept our help, don't start arguing with us ❤️‍🩹

[carmine hollow]

Never seen it work

[carmine hollow]

And now i think you are the same

I will ask if i need help

What do you mean

What id your damn point

[humble gulch]

I wasn't talking about you tho

[knotty zodiac]

here ya go

#🕹・game-discussion message

that was from a run where flower pot carried the mid antes

[stone shell]

actually arguing is fine if both sides are willing to hear the other out, the term youre looking for is being too stubborn/egotistical to accept being wrong

[humble gulch]

Yeah, that

[carmine hollow]

It does not work like that

Vro

There no group such begginers

There two groups

Tryhards and other people

[knotty zodiac]

i can tolerate a bit of snarkiness from ppl who are good at the game... but they gotta be at least either good or nice, if not both

otherwise ignore 👋

[carmine hollow]

Local thunk online

Bye guys

[humble gulch]

It gets tiring, I understand why people get easily mad after a while

[carmine hollow]

Of course you do because you c++

[humble gulch]

Sometimes I wish it was actually ragebait

[stone shell]

i personally like seeing other perspectives that aren't blatantly wrong/ragebait but yeah, can understand angrily messaging people on discord can be a chore

thats why we all have the capacity to use this skill called ✨ moving on ✨

[carmine hollow]

It would never be a chore if you not addicted to the internet

[knotty zodiac]

hot? take: a lot of ppl with c++ arent good at the game- they just have a lot of time

however, not getting to c++ usually means someone has more to learn

[vocal rose]

jumpscare gold stake ante 8 tierlist

[carmine hollow]

Having a lot of time to spend on videogames is not good

[vocal rose]

so is there defined line that makes someone "good" at the game

[brittle ocean]

Did I just see chicot > brainstorm

[vocal rose]

yes

[carmine hollow]

Let's discuss the game at least once

[ebon condor]

fr my ass sucked at the game when i got c++ and tb h i still kinda do 350+ hours lat4er

[stone shell]

showman at the bottom, opinion declined/j

[brittle ocean]

Bloodstone at the bottom?

[vocal rose]

wym

[carmine hollow]

Pretty random

[vocal rose]

bloodstone is horrible

[humble gulch]

I mean, we're here because we love the game and to help others with our experience

[vocal rose]

its a jumpscare

[brittle ocean]

Not worth bottom tier though

[vocal rose]

it is if you read the context of the tierlist

[carmine hollow]

I mean that smelly players just send wgat they should've send in #🕹・run-discussion so we never speak about actual game

[stone shell]

no im just here to do stupid stunts and give players a laugh

[carmine hollow]

Join bloodstone hater club

Be with us

[vocal rose]

Erm

still

[carmine hollow]

B haters

[vocal rose]

what

[carmine hollow]

Don't worry

[knotty zodiac]

copout but the best i can do without a long think is "i know it when i see it" based on their advice

[carmine hollow]

Nothing to care about

[vocal rose]

true

[stone shell]

i personally think separating game discussion and run discussion wasnt a great decision but whatever

[humble gulch]

Yeah, same

[brittle ocean]

How is superposition above bloodstone

[knotty zodiac]

im happy to use run-discussion if that place livens up

[carmine hollow]

This line is for sweaty, dirty chuds 🙏

[knotty zodiac]

i tried already

[carmine hollow]

Balatro is a very casual game for me

[vocal rose]

are you going to contribute anything of actual substance

[stone shell]

im just using run discussion out of obligation but its so dead

[carmine hollow]

And it's good

[brittle ocean]

Not saying it’s great or anything, I just feel like bottom tier is a bit harsh

[carmine hollow]

I can pop up balatro

[vocal rose]

or just insult people who play balatro

[carmine hollow]

To play on a bus

[brittle ocean]

Since there’s niche cases where it’s useful (e.g. early heart boss blind)

[ebon condor]

the issue with run discussion is that discussing runs inherently involves discussing the game so the distinction kinda makes no sense

[carmine hollow]

I become the one I am who i been sacred of

No!

[stone shell]

discussing runs is just nuanced game discussion

[vocal rose]

its not that high up above bloodstone but for what the card tries to achieve and the value it brings, it serves more of a purpose than bloodstone

[carmine hollow]

Nah i think everyone is fine

You right buddy

[waxen quartz]

it moves slower, easier to discuss a thing for a bit. like naninf ante 1

[carmine hollow]

I think you hate bloodstone just for love of it

[carmine hollow]

Like nothing happens

I think green joker suck ass

[vocal rose]

The head appearing as an ante 1 boss blind will still not make me pick up a bloodstone

[carmine hollow]

Nobody does

[brittle ocean]

👀

[carmine hollow]

It's fine jimbo

[deft sandal]

Now we just straight up lying

[stone shell]

bloodstone generally is considered a bad joker because of its unreliability

[vocal rose]

it's inconsistent scoring that will get you killed

[vocal rose]

I don't

[brittle ocean]

Fair

[vocal rose]

its a joker that will get you killed

[stone shell]

it doesnt matter if its high is scoring 1 billion if its low is straight up killing you

[carmine hollow]

Can u have my own fucking opinion dude

[vocal rose]

and sucks without loads of economy dump that would be better spent else where

[carmine hollow]

Stop bitching

[waxen quartz]

that aside, it's great

[carmine hollow]

Let me hate green joker

[vocal rose]

go ahead

[carmine hollow]

You so fucking annoying

[vocal rose]

but your hating is wrong

[carmine hollow]

"oh it's lie"

Like dude stop

[carmine hollow]

I don't care

I don't like big G

[vocal rose]

are you above the age of 13

[carmine hollow]

I think it's dumb to get one mult on one hand

[stone shell]

nah hating grimbo is different from hating it for being bad

[carmine hollow]

I think it's slow and there better alt

[deft sandal]

You deserve this white stake reaction

[knotty zodiac]

another one bites the dust 😔

[brittle ocean]

What are your thoughts on ride the bus and supernova

[ebon condor]

yeah like i hate playing early game sin jokers but they are realistically perfectly fine early game

[vocal rose]

$1 for +1 mult is a very GOOD exchange

[carmine hollow]

Who cares dude , try and explain yourself stop being shiteater

[humble gulch]

It gets up to 50 mult on the late game and that's all you need

[carmine hollow]

Does he worth 1$?

[vocal rose]

yikes

uh what rule is that

I forgot

[carmine hollow]

It's not that bad now

[brittle ocean]

Surely this is a ragebait opinion

[vocal rose]

I don't think he is ragebaiting

[knotty zodiac]

epic crashout bc ppl didnt interact with their enhancement idea

[vocal rose]

he's just

severely immature

[stone shell]

not gonna bother arguing but i will say is that green joker stacks up to respectable mult if you ignore discarding for a little bit

[deft sandal]

#mod-mail looking real good right now, am I right?

[vocal rose]

OH thats a thing?

[deft sandal]

😉

[carmine hollow]

Stop saying this omg

[brittle ocean]

Did I say it more than once

[carmine hollow]

Why i can't have fucking opinion now without somebody calling it ragebait or troll

I play fucking game i have different thoughts about game because i different human

It's so stupid

Okay whatever

[vocal rose]

hi guys I want more interaction with my tierlist

[stone shell]

i almost used temperance to get $0

[vocal rose]

ignoring the elephant in the room

[ebon condor]

generally when you have an extremely off-meta take and dont provide very strong backing for that take, people will assume youre ragebaiting

[carmine hollow]

Straight flush not that hard

[deft sandal]

Add Chaos Theory to A-

[brittle ocean]

Can bloodstone get D tier at least 🥺

[humble gulch]

Why isn't Trib in F tier 🗣️

[carmine hollow]

I think spiritual seanse is good

[vocal rose]

nope

[carmine hollow]

I like it

[vocal rose]

wtf is that

[brittle ocean]

My flush slop past self needs it

[vocal rose]

seance is horrible

[carmine hollow]

Nah i use it

Rarely

But use

[brittle ocean]

Also brainstorm’s gotta be S+

[knotty zodiac]

hm am i underrating invis? id have it C tier probably

[humble gulch]

This is a gold stake tierlist

[deft sandal]

What could’ve been

[carmine hollow]

Because i usually feed it with suit cards

[vocal rose]

it doesn't

because of the way it copies

it is significantly worse than blueprint

[carmine hollow]

Cool

[vocal rose]

but it's still a VERY good joker

[brittle ocean]

You can get double Econ / double anything

Doesn’t have to be xmult

[deft sandal]

Although it got scrapped, I would give it A- just for the art work

[humble gulch]

So no, seance actually goes in F

[carmine hollow]

Ye

Fhat true

[brittle ocean]

Def worse than blueprint

[carmine hollow]

Okie

[vocal rose]

This is something blueprint has access to that brainstorm doesn't

[brittle ocean]

Yeah

[carmine hollow]

(proud seanse user)

[vocal rose]

the max brainstorm can give you 2x because of the interaction it has with +mult and x mult jokers

a VERY common combination in gold stake gameplay

[knotty zodiac]

brainstorm has a niche. if you need to guarantee copying something every hand and amber hits

[floral latch]

[brittle ocean]

But stuff like rebate / certificate / baseball card still benefit the same

[floral latch]

[carmine hollow]

It's just different

Not worse

[floral latch]

hi jimbo

[carmine hollow]

Hi buddy

How you doing

[floral latch]

taking the train to school

[vocal rose]

Yes it does which is why I still rate it fairly high

[floral latch]

you?

[carmine hollow]

No way

I kove trains

[floral latch]

same bro

were like twins

[vocal rose]

but it doesn't bring as much value as the jokers above it

[brittle ocean]

We can agree to disagree on this one

[carmine hollow]

All jokers are equal

[brittle ocean]

Can we talk about Mr bones

[floral latch]

[carmine hollow]

Yea

[vocal rose]

I mean whats the disagreement

[floral latch]

[deft sandal]

Then why you hating on grimbo

[humble gulch]

I feel like there should be a really big sing that says "Gold stake is objective" so everyone can read it

[brittle ocean]

I just think brainstorm should be higher up and you don’t

[vocal rose]

they arent

[carmine hollow]

Don't speak to me

Smelly

[floral latch]

i think arrowhead is better than bloodstone

[deft sandal]

That’s kinda racist ngl

[strong jacinth]

So is the plasma deck

[carmine hollow]

What is arrowhead

[humble gulch]

Nope

[carmine hollow]

Lmao

[deft sandal]

Discriminating the green people

[vocal rose]

I mean I've yet to see WHY you say this

rather than just making the statement

[floral latch]

50+ chips each spade card played

[ebon condor]

tbh im still not enough of a chicot believer yet to see it being in s+ tier above like const and holo

[carmine hollow]

Wow

[floral latch]

eh actually bloodstone is better

imo

[carmine hollow]

I don't use it usually

[brittle ocean]

You can copy multiple different jokers per round

[ebon condor]

like its a good joker for sure but

[strong jacinth]

Checkered deck goated

[carmine hollow]

Id i don't get it early

[ebon condor]

it doesnt win games

[brittle ocean]

Doesn’t just have to be scoring

[floral latch]

genuinely

[vocal rose]

How does it bring more value than the jokers above it

[brittle ocean]

Like Econ jokers / other utility jokers

[vocal rose]

I know what it does

I know why I put it there

[knotty zodiac]

theres also a big opportunity cost in giving up a useful joker for a 20% chance at chicot

[strong jacinth]

I sure do love my flush builds

[vocal rose]

you've told me that already

[carmine hollow]

Chicot is goat

[humble gulch]

I mean, a slot in exchange of no more boss blinds is actually incredible

[floral latch]

we ALL love yorick

[ebon condor]

mmm generally youre taking soul when you have the slot

[brittle ocean]

I mean I think it’s hard to compare to scoring jokers

Kinda subjective

[carmine hollow]

(and Chicot)

[vocal rose]

it does win games though

[floral latch]

yeah chicot is better buttttttt

[carmine hollow]

40% of legendary are good

[ebon condor]

bc most soul jokers dont do anything immediately

[carmine hollow]

(Chicot and yorick

[ebon condor]

but still

[brittle ocean]

So probably not something that can be objectively agreed on

[knotty zodiac]

ex. im taking vampire over an econ joker but not soul

[vocal rose]

it gets rid of the absolute hardest part of the game

and immediately

[strong jacinth]

Does anyone know the chance to get soul in a tarot pack

[carmine hollow]

Banana counter

[vocal rose]

rather than having to snowball it

its so good that its boring

[knotty zodiac]

sticker concerns aside

[vocal rose]

not really

[brittle ocean]

0.3% per card

[carmine hollow]

0.2% as i remember

[strong jacinth]

Ah ok

[ebon condor]

hardest part of the game is scaling fast enough

[carmine hollow]

Not that bad

[ebon condor]

chicot doesnt help at all with that

[vocal rose]

in gold stake ante 8 context you rank joker based off how much value it brings you throughout an entire run

[carmine hollow]

Chicot is support

And he's good

[ebon condor]

chicot is support but support is a luxury

[carmine hollow]

And good

[knotty zodiac]

mm i slightly disagree, i think it should be based on how likely it is to move your run towards a winning trajectory. subtle difference but it matters

[carmine hollow]

I like chicot

Actually

No joking

[humble gulch]

I feel like you can consistenly win games with 4 or less scoring jokers

[carmine hollow]

Painter deck

[stone shell]

geez i hate gold cards for appearing so infrequently

[ebon condor]

you can, but even in those runs, there are often points where you need 5 scoring jokers

[stone shell]

FYI the reason i have 55 cards is because 3 of them are gold

[carmine hollow]

All with lucky cat cat on crack

[brittle ocean]

I might also add that brainstorm works fine with xmult too if you have a lot of mult from planets or enhancements

[deft sandal]

I mean, one madness with enough planet scaling probably win you the game

[knotty zodiac]

hello fellow hieroglyph enjoyer

[humble gulch]

I actually think that you only need 3 scoring jokers but that's just me and gold stickers optimization

[brittle ocean]

Just not very good with stuff like ride the bus pair builds where most of your +mult comes from jokers

[stone shell]

i can get a petroglyph xd

[ebon condor]

for chicot to have its value, you need to not need 5 scoring jokers for the entire time you have it

[stone shell]

like rn its my voucher for this ante

[ebon condor]

which is my issue with it

[vocal rose]

and this is usually able to happen with 2-3 jokers

[ebon condor]

hell, even econ is more important if you dont have many gold cards imo

[flat tiger]

also you need to actually cant beat the boss

[vocal rose]

and these cases are very much in the minority

[humble gulch]

I love three jokers gaming

[ebon condor]

preventing how you might die isnt as important as preventing how youre going to die

[vocal rose]

having to NEED 5 scoring jokers to win your run

I feel like something has gone wrong in the process of it all

[flat tiger]

for chicot to actually do something (instead of being$10) you need to have an unbeatable boss with your build, and actaully get chicot

[brittle ocean]

Without chicot you still have three rounds to see the upcoming boss blind and prepare for it

[vocal rose]

that isn't the fault of chicot

[ebon condor]

i dont see why

[brittle ocean]

And there’s other solutions like director’s cut

[knotty zodiac]

chicot means you can build greedier even without a lot of xmult

[humble gulch]

1 in 16

[ebon condor]

more common than chicot tbf

but still

[flat tiger]

or I can just.... get another scoring joker?

[brittle ocean]

Well presumably you’ve gone through several antes before the killer boss

[knotty zodiac]

if i have chicot, im not stressin about vv. i just find the path to 400k

[brittle ocean]

So more like 4/16 to 7/16

[knotty zodiac]

imo not as good as a 3 xmult but still pretty damn good

[ebon condor]

generally id rather have an x3 than chicot but maybe thats just me

[humble gulch]

It's always 1 in 16 unless you take both tier 1 and tier 2 of any voucher

Not good enough to be reliable

[vocal rose]

because REQUIRING 5 jokers to win means you've scaled incorrectly or something else has gone wrong

[brittle ocean]

No I meant you could’ve already picked it up earlier

[vocal rose]

which isn't a fault of chicot

[flat tiger]

exactly, so most of the time being $10 is more useful

[faint belfry]

mf most depressing build ever (rightmost are two eternal satellites with no modifiers btw)

[humble gulch]

Still

[carmine hollow]

C++ is gay

[stone shell]

i think chicot is good specifically for non-lobotomy/pair runs

[vocal rose]

please grow up

[carmine hollow]

C# is peak

[ebon condor]

how is it scaling incorrectly if ive scaled enough to win

[knotty zodiac]

a lot of the time when i see chicot, i see them before i see my first or second xmult

[humble gulch]

What's wrong with being gay tho

[ebon condor]

not to mention eternal jokers

[faint belfry]

got wee gold sticker the worst way possible

[carmine hollow]

Chill out

[faint belfry]

[ebon condor]

which already cut your joker slots down very often

[stone shell]

like no amount of xmult is saving me from the mouth locking me to pairs during a straight run

[deft sandal]

fr, first racist then homophobic

that's crazy

[stone shell]

well technically with enough it will but

[brittle ocean]

@vocal rose wanna repost the tier list so I don’t have to scroll up 😂

[flat tiger]

the issue still being any other legendary is better, and more times then not it didnt matter if you have chicot or not, and being $10 is more value in too many runs

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[ebon condor]

like dont get me wrong i do not think chicot is bad, i had a great run with him like last week but

[deft sandal]

was about to find a mod and pin the message

[knotty zodiac]

i prefer chicot over canio and trib

[vocal rose]

and also I slightly disagree with this because I value consistency over a short term impact lens that a joker would bring me

[humble gulch]

You only need x400,000 to beat the last blind with 1 mult and 1 chip

[dark lava]

JokerPokerBalala

[carmine hollow]

Did i said it's wrong

[stone shell]

only

[ebon condor]

its not s+, better than const, holo, and obelisk type good

[vocal rose]

yes a drool joker will be better than that hologram ante 1

hologram is still the better joker

[carmine hollow]

That happens every 20 min

[ebon condor]

id even say perkeo is better usually

[flat tiger]

its like acrobat for me, if I dont have anything sure, but if I get anything, I am selling them

[stone shell]

chicot is an A tier joker, best in the business for its niche

[ebon condor]

id say s tier even tbh

but s+ is pushing it HARD

[vocal rose]

I think chicot can go below midas mask

but it definitely belongs in S+

[stone shell]

arguable but mid-high A tier for me

[flat tiger]

i wont call anything S tier if it isnt a good pick up 99% of the runs

[brittle ocean]

I’d also say A to S

[ebon condor]

very few jokers are good 99% of runs tbf

[brittle ocean]

It’s just chicot > brainstorm is bugging me

[vocal rose]

chicot is one of them!!

[ebon condor]

no its not

[humble gulch]

Real

[ebon condor]

you cant argue that one come on

[flat tiger]

thats why very few should be called S tier, as it should be

[vocal rose]

I definitely can

chicot brings out its full value the MOMENT you get it

and for the rest of the run

[stone shell]

im gonna be honest ive had times where bp/bs showed up but it was an abyssmal roster for them

[brittle ocean]

👀

[ebon condor]

youre saying that 1% of runs cant hold chicot?

[flat tiger]

yeah, $10 is sinificant

[ebon condor]

really?

[stone shell]

is it daring to say i think bp bs are overrated for ante 8

[brittle ocean]

Yeah same but same with chicot

[vocal rose]

yes

[flat tiger]

BP is only good if your base mult only come from planets or you are doing on trigger build like AJ photo and stuff

[brittle ocean]

If I’m playing pairslop I’m not that scared of too many boss blinds

[ebon condor]

you only get like early game eternals and few xmult options in ONE PERCENT of runs?

like come on i wouldnt say pretty much any joker is good in 99% of runs

[knotty zodiac]

chicot taking care of eye wall needle is huge

[stone shell]

also this is why i never use run discussions nobody is helping me make a decision

[brittle ocean]

True

[vocal rose]

uhhhh

rebate

cav

yorick

blackboard

blueprint

[stone shell]

i distinctly remember being screwed over by the mouth appearing in one run and then chicot arrived in the nick of time

[brittle ocean]

Those can be helped with tarots though no?

Not completely fixed but still helped

[ebon condor]

i think cav blackboard and bp are the only ones you can argue for

honestly not even bp bc its bad early actually

[flat tiger]

if you luck it out you can just not get a bad boss or get luc

[stone shell]

bp ante 1 gambit 🙏

[vocal rose]

if you dont take these jokers theres a high chance its a misplay in your run

[ebon condor]

but yorick is bad late and so is rebate

[knotty zodiac]

which tarots help u through eye? i think without chicot you need chip and more xmult

[stone shell]

relying on rng is not a good strat in roguelikes

[brittle ocean]

Don’t mind me quickly googling what eye is

[flat tiger]

by late you mean endless?

[ebon condor]

that doesnt mean theyre bad overall, especially for rebate their earlygame value is VERY important

[vocal rose]

rebate is the best joker in the game and yorick is the second best

[ebon condor]

no i mean like ante 6+

[knotty zodiac]

play hand type only once

[flat tiger]

aka chicot is bad because its a legendary, AND you need the boss to actualyl kill you

[brittle ocean]

I think for that you can use glass right?

[ebon condor]

yorick can be good like ante 6 actually but rebate usually isnt

[flat tiger]

how is easy X5+ bad before endless

[brittle ocean]

If a lot of your scoring is from planets

[vocal rose]

Uhhhhhh what?

[brittle ocean]

And otherwise you can just play different hands

[ebon condor]

and also youre saying only 1% of runs get burglar

if youre saying rebate is good 99% of the time

[vocal rose]

an eternal rental rebate obtained on ante 6 will be better than a rocket you've obtained ante 1-2

[ebon condor]

like remember the number we're arguing

99%

[vocal rose]

yes

99.9% of times if you ARENT taking rebate

you're likely throwing the game

[knotty zodiac]

you'll probably need to find a hand with two glass and maybe one tarot to craft it into the right hand

[vocal rose]

its so unbalanced as a joker

[stone shell]

nah chicot can help even against boss blinds that wouldnt outright kill you but just be a major inconvenience

[ebon condor]

so are you saying that you only get burglar .1% of the time?

are you saying that

[vocal rose]

strawman of death and doom

[ebon condor]

LITERALLY NOT

A STRAWMAN THIS IS WHAT YOURE SAYING

[vocal rose]

you're misconstruing my argument like

very horribly

[ebon condor]

UNLESS YOU THINK REBATE AND BURGLAR IS A GOOD COMBO

[stone shell]

on average a chicot run for me is just so chill because focusing on pure scoring alone is easier than all the balatro variables

[brittle ocean]

Maybe I’m just too used to having too convenient of a run cause I don’t go for streaks lol

[knotty zodiac]

ya ig if rerolling, only 1/4 runs hit eye, so most of them will make it through

[stone shell]

its good because rebate gives you the money to find burglar 🙏

[vocal rose]

unless its pedantrics you're doing

obviously not

[brittle ocean]

Or even if I hit eye, I usually have a strong enough build to make it through

[lunar zealot]

Hello chat what's happening

[vocal rose]

but I just wont interact with you since I'm really not in the mood for pedantrics or strawmans

[brittle ocean]

And the 10% of the times I don’t, I don’t remember them

[stone shell]

someone made a tierlist

[ebon condor]

if you are saying that rebate is the best pick 99.9% of the time, that means that either it is good when you have burglar, or that you only have burglar .1% of the time

[brittle ocean]

Cause they didn’t break a streak

[ebon condor]

i dont see how this is a strawman

[flat tiger]

you rolled a soul card, all you need is discord for yorick when you have by default, or find one hanged man for canio for 3X, have one of the retrigger for trib, more cases then not chicot didnt matter

[lunar zealot]

or get this it's hyperbole

[knotty zodiac]

can be scary. back when i played more pairs, i had often trouble outscaling a7 eye

maybe you have better tactics

[ebon condor]

THE ARGUMENT IS ABOUT THE GENUINE 99%

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE THEN SAY THAT

JFC

[stone shell]

finding a hanged man for canio alone is quite a challenge

[vocal rose]

social skills

and context clues

[lunar zealot]

anyway chat

[flat tiger]

multiple sure, one, not really

[ebon condor]

oh my fucking god

[knotty zodiac]

can't tell you the number of runs that have died with a x1 canio

[vocal rose]

and an understanding of figurative language

[flat tiger]

yeah cant tell you the numebr of runs I die with chicot because it didnt mattered

[stone shell]

nah ive had runs where canio just for its life wouldnt come online because rng doesnt favor killing faces

[knotty zodiac]

sure sometimes i've had to sell chicot, but without tarot gen, it's still better than canio

[lunar zealot]

Chat im at the bank rn

[brittle ocean]

Mfw Canio is to hanged man as cats are to creepers

[vocal rose]

fire

[lunar zealot]

Not fire

the line is taking years

[vocal rose]

better than the DMV

[deft sandal]

having to find trading card/tarot cards/immolate to kill the face cards is like impossible after you get canio

[flat tiger]

the chances of finding one hangman for canio is way higher then chicot actaully saved me from an unbeatable boss, and finding a 2nd one is already making it crazy good

[lunar zealot]

i don't have a car

[vocal rose]

I do

and the dmv sucks

[lunar zealot]

haha

[deft sandal]

it's like the game know you're playing towards canio and decides to go against you in every single way

[lunar zealot]

Imagine having a car in big 26

[ebon condor]

you bring up 99% as a figure, i treat that as your genuine figure FAIRLY CLEARLY, you go farther into that figure and then say that you were obviously being hyperbolic even though i made it CLEAR that i was talking about 99% completely non-hyperbolically

[stone shell]

chicot doesnt have to save you for bosses but its mere existence takes a lot of mental load out of usual balatroing

[ebon condor]

you cant just do that

whatever

[rustic haven]

[lunar zealot]

im not the girl who made the argument

[brittle ocean]

Screw it ima just resend it here for my own reference

[ebon condor]

im not talking to you bestie

[rustic haven]

seance is wild

[stone shell]

focusing on scoring alone doesnt stretch money as thinly as finding everything else you need to make sure you win

[flat tiger]

mental load???? you mean you suddenly stop making mistakes when you have chicot? TBH it sounds literally like skill issue

[rustic haven]

and baron even being in D tier is a sin

[knotty zodiac]

@vocal rose bomp 😛

[vocal rose]

o i didnt see this

uhhhh

[vivid bronze]

I put that list in s tire

[vocal rose]

apologies

[vocal rose]

yeah you're probably right

[flat tiger]

for ante 8 baron is bad

[deft sandal]

The only I dont agree is Seance, It is definitely way higher considering checkered and abandoned deck is much easier to build towards straight flush

[rustic haven]

i know

[vocal rose]

I might move it down to B-

[rustic haven]

thats why im saying

[flat tiger]

so D tier is totalyl fair

[rustic haven]

ikt shouldnt even be d tier

fuckin

z tier

in hell

useless af

[brittle ocean]

Not my list just resending it to avoid scrolling

[echo sphinx]

lets go beat this guy up (i haven't even seen the thign yet)

[rustic haven]

worse than idol actually

[deft sandal]

i know :)

[flat tiger]

baron can work, it makes every K a steel card, its not the worst thing

so D tier is fair

[knotty zodiac]

reason: 2 rounds where it's a dead slot is often unaffordable, and then after that, my spam setup is usually chip, scale mult, xmult. i want it to hit xmult but that's only 1/4 or 2/4 usually and i cant sell the other oens

[stone shell]

while i admit im not a good balatro player, i still think chicot is good because changing balatro to just a game of numbers is very strong as opposed to having to deal with both scoring and playing against some problematic bosses

[rustic haven]

it is when u most like have 0 deckfixing bc ur focusing on pairslop/econ/scoring more than forcing a shitty baron

[brittle ocean]

Invis is A tier if you savescum change my mind

[rustic haven]

^

[echo sphinx]

lol real

[stone shell]

on average from my experience you will meet at least one boss you have to pay attention to

[vocal rose]

Seance quite literally gets worse the more usage you get out of it

[knotty zodiac]

still paid the opportunity cost of holding ded joker for 2 rounds tho

[echo sphinx]

whos the tierlist op btw

[vocal rose]

me

[knotty zodiac]

@zoahl

[echo sphinx]

o

[deft sandal]

this is one of my Seance Run on abandoned

[stone shell]

anyways gang wheres my run discussion help

[vocal rose]

and needs you to build into a VERY subpar type of hand

[ebon condor]

well you dont necessarily have to build into it

[flat tiger]

invis is S tier if you savescum

[stone shell]

at the bright side straight flush does have some really good planet scaling

[brittle ocean]

Potentially

You do have to sell some other jokers though

[deft sandal]

on checkered deck, you dont even need to fix your deck and it is easy to draw a straight flush

[flat tiger]

why if you save scum

[ebon condor]

but honestly if the most optimal play for a joker is to not play around it thats a good sign its a bad joker lol

[brittle ocean]

And can’t move it around like bp/bs

[stone shell]

technically it also has in built eye counterplay by having royal flush and straight flush being distinct hands

[brittle ocean]

Cause you can manipulate what joker it copies

[echo sphinx]

honestly not bad lol

[vocal rose]

I don't know how much this is supposed to provide

since its on black stake too

[flat tiger]

you are save scuming why do you need to, just reload?

[ebon condor]

does that work?

[echo sphinx]

seance and bloodstone are so lmao

[ebon condor]

ive never heard of that before

[stone shell]

from my memory yes

well i remember royal flush and straight flush being different according to mouth

[echo sphinx]

i also had a seance run and a not completely throwing your run away spectral only showed up at ante 9

[vocal rose]

is this true?

[brittle ocean]

Seance was my last gold stickered joker on my first c++ and I will forever be traumatized by the perpetual shop rerolling

[stone shell]

both boss blind and word of mouth

[lunar zealot]

Hi chat

baron mime gold stake

[echo sphinx]

nice lol

[ebon condor]

cany anyone else back that up?

[vocal rose]

woah

[flat tiger]

my only "seance run" was just me triggering it like 3-4 times then selling it

[deft sandal]

gold stake checkered:

[echo sphinx]

seance kinda dogshit outside of two decks

and rn the examples is within these two decks

[brittle ocean]

Two?

[stone shell]

i believe it is but i havent had the distinction matter to me in a run yet

[echo sphinx]

checkered, abandoned

[lunar zealot]

seance's only redeeming quality is that it is an uncommon joker

[brittle ocean]

Oh abandoned

[vocal rose]

once again I'm still wondering what this is supposed to provide

[lunar zealot]

It has 1.2 use cases

[vocal rose]

that seance can be used?

yes it can be

[echo sphinx]

and even then spectrals aren't... that great

[ebon condor]

didnt even used to have that going for it 😭

[echo sphinx]

half of them throw the run away

[knotty zodiac]

hm can you explain aj over vamp/DL/seeing double? feel like a lot of the time, pivot to aj is not possible. and then when playing aj, sometimes you randomly die from bottomdeck

[echo sphinx]

and the other half -1 is just. slightly better tarot

[rustic haven]

so i need baron and balatro decides i have planet merchant

[vocal rose]

thats a more controversial pick I'll be honest since

[echo sphinx]

and immolate cooks future seance procs

[deft sandal]

Wraith for better joker, or immolate for econ, Trance for blue seal, medium for purple sealed and Deja Vu for Red seal

[echo sphinx]

but thats a 1 in 14 so that's like friggin impossible

[brittle ocean]

Always the darn planet merchant

[vocal rose]

ancient joker is probably the hardest joker to take full advantage of

[rustic haven]

i dont even have it

[brittle ocean]

Even if you don’t have planet merchant

[rustic haven]

ikr

im not winning this run

no baron

:P

econ is in the dirt

[flat tiger]

do you even want planet merch unless constellation?

[brittle ocean]

Why stm

[rustic haven]

$48 ante 11 bc i have to focus steel for scoring

[ebon condor]

even with const its pretty shit

[echo sphinx]

time to force a "baron" with steels

[ebon condor]

unless youve basically already won

[rustic haven]

havent found idol havent found any other good mult or xmult

[ebon condor]

in which, case, yay you won

[rustic haven]

that puts me past ante 12

so im just making like

[echo sphinx]

if theres econ on the run then its an instant pick

[brittle ocean]

Most of the time I wanna just delete planet merchant from the game

[echo sphinx]

what else u gonna spend monis on

[rustic haven]

a couple gold queens

[knotty zodiac]

rerolling for jokers, not planets

[flat tiger]

just having some random red seal steel is better then baron most of the time

[rustic haven]

and a bunch of kings

i also have no red seal

[echo sphinx]

fair

[rustic haven]

so even that

[brittle ocean]

Yeah the run might be cooked

[rustic haven]

makes it gg

it is

unless next shop is a miracle

[brittle ocean]

Probably more time efficient to just reset

[knotty zodiac]

tho if i dont have blue seal and constellation is low, i think i pop

[rustic haven]

no point

not gonna reset a dead run jus cuz i know its dead

[echo sphinx]

lets see what else is on the tierlist

[rustic haven]

thats giving up

[brittle ocean]

It’s making a disciplined fold

[ebon condor]

mmm idk

[stone shell]

i hate tribe you have one use and you decide to be only mildly useful

[echo sphinx]

all in on high card when there's a likely straight for the others on the table mmmmmmmmmm

[ebon condor]

maybe if its a late const?

[knotty zodiac]

getting the constellation from 1.0 to 1.5x is often the difference between making it and not making it on the mid runs

[rustic haven]

?

[ebon condor]

yeah u right, but the voucher itself also costs $10

[brittle ocean]

I can’t remember the last time I purchased planet merchant tbh

[echo sphinx]

for self reference again

[flat tiger]

at least 1.1 and 1.2 is doing something, unlike hologram where you go 4 ante without standard packs

[knotty zodiac]

ya if i have no econ i dont take..

[ebon condor]

so you need to be able to take that hit as well

and if you have econ youre usually fine anyways so

its just kinda

[brittle ocean]

I’d rather take a blank on ante 8 than take planet merchant 😂

[rustic haven]

omg

omg

omg

omg

omg

[ebon condor]

it doesnt really have THAT much of a place even there

[rustic haven]

I NEED A HERO

😭

[brittle ocean]

Might be time to fold

[rustic haven]

YOOOOOOOOOOOO

WAIT

[knotty zodiac]

its lower variance now bc it's higher probability than finding more xmult jokers

but worse for finding xmult down the line and for stickering

so there's some nuance

[rustic haven]

ITS NOT OVER

[ebon condor]

ye

i think there are def situations where its the right move but

few & far between

[knotty zodiac]

it's situational. and i dont think ive ever wanted planet tycoon

[flat tiger]

madness A?

[rustic haven]

never over till its actually over

[deft sandal]

are you playing the queens or saving them for shoot the moon

[echo sphinx]

why is castle below square lol

who hurt u

[rustic haven]

thers ur answer

[deft sandal]

oh

[rustic haven]

fuck this game dawg

no anti

[ebon condor]

would you say planet merchant or magic trick is worse? considering they provide basically the same thing for 2 different jokers

[brittle ocean]

Alr fuck it I’m gonna start a naneinf run lol

[echo sphinx]

take the first three nice

[knotty zodiac]

magic trick bc naked cards are worse than planets

[deft sandal]

cause I dont think scary face would do well with shoot the moon :/

[ebon condor]

fair enough

[rustic haven]

i am NOT grabbing tarot tycoon 😭

[echo sphinx]

magic trick's only use is hologram fodder

[rustic haven]

i cant find jokers

[ebon condor]

but it also scales holo faster than merchant scales const

[rustic haven]

😭

[deft sandal]

fair

[rustic haven]

im so tired of taking tarot merchant

[ebon condor]

so in a pinch it can more reasonably save you

[rustic haven]

im gonna stop taking it

[brittle ocean]

Tarot merchant is good

[deft sandal]

grab the hieroglyph tho

[knotty zodiac]

hm thats fair. i think constellation means sometimes planet merchant, and holo means always magic trick

[flat tiger]

just get a mirror 4Head

[rustic haven]

ik

[rustic haven]

not for late

[brittle ocean]

You need tarots to make the gold to steel conversion

[echo sphinx]

u could make the argument that planets also give chips mults

[rustic haven]

i have 7 purple seals

[echo sphinx]

so it could also save u in a pinch

[rustic haven]

and if i didnt need to force scoring

aka

if i had a baron

[brittle ocean]

Hmm

[ebon condor]

eh i wouldnt say THAT

[rustic haven]

id be able to have rebate AND dig for purple

[ebon condor]

just that magic trick can be helpful if you need the xmult NOW

[rustic haven]

and the only issue would be red seal

[knotty zodiac]

i think if holo is below 3, im always taking magic trick

[brittle ocean]

Purples give random tarots tho

In the shop you can pick the one you need

[rustic haven]

and...?

[echo sphinx]

constellation = planet is autotake
magic trick = magic trick is autotake

[brittle ocean]

If anything, temperances and hermits can pay for the few extra rerolls

[ebon condor]

i think it depends on how early it is and how many slots i still have open for scoring

like ante 3 magic trick seems pretty bad

but i can accept like ante 6 magic trick

[deft sandal]

idk why but all the jokers I've been getting in this run are foiled

[echo sphinx]

these two need to have its own Overstock effect lol

[slow iris]

foiled again

[echo sphinx]

rn they're pay-to-lose vouchers

[knotty zodiac]

hm i would take a3 if i had holo. that feels like a recipe to get it to 6x+

[deft sandal]

foiled again 😔

[eager lance]

SOMEONE HELP ME NANEINF

[ebon condor]

maybe youre right idk

[stone shell]

i knew upgrading neptune would matter eventually + this run looking hella cooked

[ebon condor]

ive not really considered it that much

[rustic haven]

get out of trib

[deft sandal]

with trib, you're not naneinfing, sorry

[rustic haven]

^

[eager lance]

yeah ik

but idk whats the best way to get higher hand size

[flat tiger]

i really dont like acro

[ebon condor]

tf is going on here

[echo sphinx]

run of all time

[ebon condor]

actually ykw thats probably salvageable

[errant brook]

Guys...what do I do here lol

[echo sphinx]

scoring so poor the econ is poor through zero hands too

[eager lance]

am i at the stage to switch to baron and mime?

[echo sphinx]

what do i do
bro just take it

[errant brook]

I'm terrified it's gonna make me lose

[rustic haven]

you need to sapw

[deft sandal]

this is going to put me in debt isn't it

[rustic haven]

pre ante like

10-12

[eager lance]

wha

[rustic haven]

like ante 8-12

swap

[echo sphinx]

here's what u can do
blueprint copiers can copy burglar effect

[knotty zodiac]

what happened to your chad?

[echo sphinx]

so u have all the things copy burglar before u select a blind

[rustic haven]

baron mime needs to kick in ante 8-12 and if not atleast pre 16

[knotty zodiac]

oh ankh

[rustic haven]

you build for baron and deckfix for it so when you grab it

you dont die

from ur old build

[eager lance]

do i just go for red seal steel kings now?

[echo sphinx]

then each copy gives 3 hands each
so u effectively start with 17 hands per round@errant brook

[rustic haven]

which is why stm, trib, or idol is good bc u can just deckfix to all kings/queens

[errant brook]

Yeah but

I have a max score and using DNA gives me the max score lol

[echo sphinx]

and after the burglar copier u can proceed as normal

[stone shell]

okay so basically i was in a scoring pinch and needed xmult

i found throwback and even though my brain said it wasnt enough i felt like i had to try

i skipped, got a spectral pack, and yes i got an ankh

[deft sandal]

you doing gold stake naneinf?

[rustic haven]

so ur in a good position, but i think youve waited wayyyy too long but you can still give it a try

[eager lance]

whats stm

[rustic haven]

shoot the moon

[knotty zodiac]

lolol almost screwed by throwback

[errant brook]

Yes, I'm missing both re-roll vouchers though and The Serpent is coming up next, where I 100% can't naneinf cuz it's too early

[rustic haven]

basically baron but queens and +mult

[eager lance]

i could have gotten it earlier lol but i thought i didnt need to get it at that time

[echo sphinx]

not enough king seals?

[stone shell]

in my defense i had 10 dollars and rerolls costed 8 atp

[deft sandal]

that's unfortunate

[errant brook]

No it's too early

[echo sphinx]

rip

[errant brook]

Like you can't naneinf on ante 19

[knotty zodiac]

ya thats rough. can happen sometimes

[errant brook]

You win too quickly

[echo sphinx]

i forgot how many kings to naneinf

[eager lance]

this is my deck rn

[rustic haven]

44 on plasma

[errant brook]

You need to get to ante 25 IIRC to naneinf

[ebon condor]

well it depends on your baron/mime numbers

[echo sphinx]

never too early, naneinf can be achieved before showdown bloind

[errant brook]

It's too early without Perkeo

[rustic haven]

you are in a good position to pivot

[stone shell]

judgement got constellation my absolute goat

[deft sandal]

yea, at least after ante 24

[rustic haven]

but ante 17 and no baron mime

[eager lance]

i replace trib and sock with baron and mime? but what order

[knotty zodiac]

now its just winning lols

[rustic haven]

you have good econ

[knotty zodiac]

3 hot jokers

[rustic haven]

probably a trib

[ebon condor]

cat in shop is also funny asf

[echo sphinx]

holy judgement pull

[ebon condor]

think abt the value

[rustic haven]

do u have hc levels?

[deft sandal]

im scoring 900 chips with this build in ante 5 lmao

[echo sphinx]

chipsmaxxing

[rustic haven]

that is great

[stone shell]

lucky card procced money to ressurrect my cooked econ

[rustic haven]

you actually

[eager lance]

do i cryptid here

[rustic haven]

might be able to

antimatter retcon?

[rustic haven]

no

[stone shell]

this went from its so over to we're so back in one ante

[rustic haven]

u need a red seal

[stone shell]

absolute cinema

[eager lance]

i have some in the deck

[rustic haven]

dont deck bloat more with useless kings

[rustic haven]

not worth here

[eager lance]

alr

[rustic haven]

no antimatter sucks

farm soda

and look for voucher skip

[errant brook]

Well...I need to find Luchador...and also have enough to live...

[deft sandal]

Luchadore will appear, trust

[rustic haven]

youll need a burg, rebate for more money, copy jokers, baronmime, and a dna

[eager lance]

alr. btw i have negative showman, juggler, and business card

[deft sandal]

or Chicot

[errant brook]

Found him lol

Do I sell DNA or my 2nd Mime?

[eager lance]

what about golden ticket

[rustic haven]

also ur ante 17 on ante 24 you need to roll crimson heart and get a bean for bean bug if u wanna do it

up to uj

[rustic haven]

with sock its good but youll be replacing sock with mime

i would honestly

send ss again

of lineup

[eager lance]

to choose burg or bean?

[stone shell]

well um, how much do we pray in constellation scaling

[rustic haven]

bean ante 24 boss blind

[eager lance]

ok

[rustic haven]

make sure to find a fresh one

wait

u have showman so finding more bean

[eager lance]

i have 1 blue print and 1 brainstorm

[rustic haven]

i was gonna say

sell showman

[stone shell]

HELLO WHY ARE YOU UNPUNISHING ME

[rustic haven]

bc its actually worsening your odds of finding baron mime

[echo sphinx]

LOL

[errant brook]

I still may be in trouble here. I need to sell DNA or Mime but because I have Burglar, DNA may still go wrong

[echo sphinx]

what a redemption

[rustic haven]

but with how much money u have maybe its ok

[deft sandal]

two bean into the crimson heart would go crazy

[rustic haven]

yeah thats what im sayin