🕹・game-discussion

[vague flint]

Good with flush builds or retriggers

[brave fox]

Gotta loosen my pants for all this food i got rn

[knotty zodiac]

one plasma game i was playing straights and got most of my face cards above 35

[vague flint]

You can get several cards beyond +100 chips with a single chad

[round current]

depends on what ur trying to do but everytime i try optimizing it i never get the high card run i want so idk

[mellow panther]

RPNC9W81

[round current]

please move popcorn infront of ramen thank u much

[austere escarp]

By the time I got enough chips on hiker to be worth a damn I was already playing flush fives and had hella chips from other sources. I would hope to see it buffed in a coming update tbh.

[cloud sinew]

ive had like 6 in 1000 hours lol

[knotty zodiac]

mm i love me some banana-popcorn ramen

[cloud sinew]

it just feels too inconsistent to be worth it most times

[austere escarp]

The 5 im missing are in the 300 hours I have less than you

[brave fox]

Id probably eat my popcorn before my ramen anyway so u right

[knotty zodiac]

sometimes hiker is the only early chip in plasma. beggers cant be choosers

[austere escarp]

Lowkey stopped playing so I dont get burnt out before 1.1 comes out.

[cloud sinew]

ive done a lot of gold stake streaks tbf, and niche jokers are used more often there because you need to use everything at your disposal

[vague flint]

I think the joker itself gaining chips per x cards played would make it viable, since you wouldn’t have to focus on replaying specific cards to maximize chips

[frosty saddle]

is it normal to get two planet cards for the same hand in one celestial pack? i don't have telescope

[whole eagle]

cookieclicker saves don’t really work as cross saves though, i bought the cookie clicker by orteil on my ps5 so i could use my 5-6 year long run that i have saved and then realized that theres no way to import or export saves on playstation, or Nintendo switch. Xbox has the possibility of being able to import/export saves if you have a onedrive. This is a similar issue for minecraft(importing/exporting worlds) you cant really export or import saved worlds on consoles, you beed to either play pocket edition or java, or you need to buy a realms subscription and put the world on the realm, add yourself from the console to the realm and then save the workd to the console from the realm. But realms costs money.

[cloud sinew]

is the planet card in question Pluto?

[frosty saddle]

nope, venus

[frozen fiber]

what's a flush build

[knotty zodiac]

i just need mobile<->PC. I get that for Switch it's probably RIP

[cloud sinew]

are you running modded in any capacity? this includes just having steamodded installed

[rich mauve]

showman

idk

[austere escarp]

I mean my highest gold winstreak was like 8 on yellow deck. I kinda play too risky and lose a lot of runs. But c++ was a lot of fun.

[frozen fiber]

is that like. jokers good for flushes (droll/crafty)

[frosty saddle]

oh yeah, i have showman

i didn't realize that thats what it meant

[rich mauve]

🐘

[frosty saddle]

awesome lmao, thank you

[vague flint]

It affects all consumables as well as jokers

[austere escarp]

Sounds like a showman moment to me

[round current]

yeah it means multiple of the same card can spawn

[knotty zodiac]

it would only work for devices that support copying/inputting text or transferring text files

[frosty saddle]

yeah it is a showman moment lmao, i didnt really understand what "can appear multiple times" meant

[round current]

its okay

[vague flint]

Is that what it spits out if you’re holding onto a copy of every available planet?

[round current]

i didn’t either at first

[cloud sinew]

yes

pluto is the default planet card

[austere escarp]

Based

[rich mauve]

based

[frosty saddle]

anyways, thanks for the explanation lmao

[austere escarp]

Make mercury the default fr

[vague flint]

If you haven’t played a five of a kind, will planet x (or the other secret planets) appear or will it just be plutos

[rich mauve]

it's like having blueptint as the default joker failsafe

[cloud sinew]

it will be plutos

[round current]

of course :)

[vague flint]

Neat
What’s the default tarot?

[cloud sinew]

strength

default spectral is incantation
default voucher is blank

default joker is Joker

[unborn cliff]

ANTE 1 CHICOT

[vague flint]

I knew about vouchers
Weird that strength is the default tarot though

[round current]

thats so awesome

[cloud sinew]

default card is ace of spades (see idol, rebate, castle in the collection in the main menu)

[cloud sinew]

it used to be fool and that was changed so you couldnt force fools as easily

didnt really change anything though

[round current]

motorhead reference

[vague flint]

Ah, I guess that makes sense

[cloud sinew]

default misprint card is Jack of Diamonds (11D)

i still don't know why

[round current]

jack of diamonds my beloved

[cloud sinew]

I know why code wise, just not why thunk would choose 11D over any other card

[rich mauve]

is there default to do list?

[cloud sinew]

no

[austere escarp]

Put fool in every arcana pack guranteed

[cloud sinew]

there also isn't a default tag or a default pack

[round current]

real

[whole eagle]

if balatro on mobile was like mcpe that would be possible, due to mcpe having a whole thing in the iphones files that allows you to import/export worlds and add mods(without jailbreaking your phone), but balatro does not show up in the iphone files. So sadly i dont see a way to do mobile-pc save transfer until localthunk adds a way to

[cloud sinew]

there is a default deck though; red.
you can find this out by duplicating a joker with invis or ankh on a deck that isn't red deck, and the back of that card will be red deck

[round current]

i always wondered why that happened lmfao

[austere escarp]

Alright im just fucking around, I have no meaningful discussion really. Later gang

[round current]

thought it was a coding issue

later juice

[vague flint]

As if amber acorn needed to be easier

[cloud sinew]

that's what we're all here for

[rich mauve]

we should have an in-game profile exporter/importer fr

[cloud sinew]

amber acorn has the most bugs/mechanics that counter it out of any boss imo

[rich mauve]

not being able to temper with my own files on my own device is crazy tho

[cloud sinew]

holding a card so it doesnt get flipped, seeing if the back of a card is red to know if it's the copy (non-red deck only), seeing if you can sell a joker or not (whether the sell prompt is grey or green) as if you can it means it's not eternal, 4 jokers are different shapes when theyre flipped, etc

[cloud sinew]

you can even know exactly where 2 jokers are on mobile*, not easily reproducable, as there's a bug that causes the normal sell button on jokers to appear and stay there until you exit the run, and it stays even if the joker is flipped

[rich mauve]

also some of them shake

[cloud sinew]

true, like invis/loyalty/dna/trading

[rich mauve]

it would be funny to have stencil with no back

[cloud sinew]

amber acorn is one of the bosses that just needs a complete rework i think

one of two, serpent is the other

[brave fox]

Oh yeah, we eating today bois

[round current]

even when i can’t figure out my actual joker placement for acorn cause i’m dumb i always win anyways

[compact gazelle]

amber acorn should flip and rearrange every hand or something idk

[cloud sinew]

but serpent is already confirmed to be reworked in 1.1 to draw a max of 3 instead of always 3

[rich mauve]

yea none of them feels like a boss

[cloud sinew]

making acorn be a normal boss effect would be fine

it's just not deserving of being a showdown blind

[compact gazelle]

swap it with something else lmao

[round current]

no literally

[knotty zodiac]

do you know if thunk provided any reasoning about making a big 1.1 vs coming out with small changes with 1.0.2, 1.0.3, etc?

[round current]

this would be cool

[compact gazelle]

my guess is
big update easier for everyone to keep up with than many small update

[round current]

i wish more platforms did that

minecraft loves churning out the tiniest updates it’s bloated

[cloud sinew]

i believe it's because he plans on making it the last update, at least he has said that in the past.

[round current]

oh wow

[knotty zodiac]

interesting

[ancient gyro]

deadlines are more lenient

not that he has one since it's just him

[knotty zodiac]

just thought the changes would be easier iteratively instead of a big bang

[round current]

yeah aside from a few bugs and boss reworks there doesn’t really need to be a major update anyways

yeah

[compact gazelle]

theyre scared of making an update people will have any objections to
(still have no clue which insane person okayed the mace and spear with those numbers)

[round current]

thats definitely true

[ancient gyro]

that can come in 1.1.x iterations

[round current]

i haven’t played minecraft in months but every so often i’ll get an advertisement saying there’s a huge new update and it’s a new chicken texture or something

[sterile nexus]

what the fuck lmao

[rich mauve]

yeah we should thank him at worst, it's a completed + sold game and he doesn't make any money from the update (not sure)

[cloud sinew]

there's also probably an element of localthunk not wanting to update the game in little pieces at this point because people are expecting the next update to be the major update

[knotty zodiac]

there are plenty of small changes that wouldnt have to wait for a big rework. for ex. the serpent change. it's a nerf but it shouldn't affect something like the grand reimagining of blue stake

[round current]

he looks so handsome with the negative

it’d be so cool if for the balatro youtooz they had limited/chase negative ones

[compact gazelle]

big update (as it in has a name): baby mob retexture plus new craftable flower
big update: new soccer ball slime and red blocks (no hate to the cinnabar and sulfur palette, as a builder cinnabar fills in a necessary role in its color range and sulfur adds to the gradient for gilding)

[rich mauve]

yeah but then there wouldn't be a big update then

small things add up together

[ancient gyro]

serpent getting buffed and tweaked just happens to be a small thing of the 1.1 update that isn't confidential

[round current]

wow they love adding nothing

[fiery nymph]

i like the sulfur update a lot actually

the cube is really silly and fun

[round current]

was really looking forward to the chickens being yellow instead of white thats awesome

[compact gazelle]

indeed
no complaints though since im just a builder and i like new blocks as long as i can imagine any use for em

[ancient gyro]

localtruck prefers not to treat game making as a chore but rather a hobby foremost

[fluid nova]

is it even possible ;-;

[fiery nymph]

i also think updates dont have to get bigger for mc

[compact gazelle]

but yeah theyre paranoid of adding anything people will identify as "bad game design" and they spend way too long bug checking imo
have you seen their april fools snapshots the content on those is insane sometimes

[round current]

idk what the sulfur update is i just wish minecraft didn’t churn out the silliest smallest updates

[compact gazelle]

theres already a lot of really stupid uses discovered for the thing

[fiery nymph]

yeahh

[round current]

they add like entire new portals and game mechanics yeah

[cloud sinew]

yk bones skip is patched in 1.1 too

[ancient gyro]

ik

[rancid glade]

woo I got tiny hands

[compact gazelle]

i dont mind minecraft updates being on the smaller scale
it keeps the original feel of minecraft by restraining the new stuff to small contained regions of the world

[fiery nymph]

this feels like too much more for the game rn

[round current]

ive never played an april fools update actually

[unborn cliff]

what the hell is bones skip

[round current]

i mean for april fools but yeah

[fiery nymph]

ante like 500

[unborn cliff]

dude what

[fiery nymph]

something like that

[rich mauve]

yeah something other than dna would naneinf afaik

[compact gazelle]

sans undertale ante skip
deck out with two mr bones

[unborn cliff]

interesting

[compact gazelle]

very dumb and very silly

[cloud sinew]

https://youtu.be/yNcWdeNtfZo

[unborn cliff]

interesting

[ancient gyro]

two bones and andrew on abandoned, play and discard when you reach 25% score and watch funny stats

[unborn cliff]

of course MathIsFun uploaded that

[cloud sinew]

it's how my highest ante is 62 in vanilla

[round current]

woah

[unborn cliff]

250k dollars

interesting...

[round current]

ur like Thee balatro

[ancient gyro]

fern is in the millions rn

[cloud sinew]

some people are in the millions, 250k is not much all things considered

[round current]

thats so cool i saw that

[unborn cliff]

mogged 😂✌️

[rich mauve]

too bad you can't convert those to chips

[round current]

my most money is only like $646 i think

[rich mauve]

[whole eagle]

seen it b4, ended with this

[round current]

lmao

[ancient gyro]

icarus post credits scene

[whole eagle]

made it to ante 69 though, so i got a good chuckle from it

[round current]

how the hell does this even happen

[quaint stag]

greatest port in history

[unborn cliff]

golden ticket is a pretty good econ joker

[round current]

true!

now i want to try a rough gem run on yellow deck hm hm hm

[fiery nymph]

isnt parking literally just better for money records

[unborn cliff]

i dont know

[compact gazelle]

fern used parking bean bug

[onyx blade]

i'm having a bit of a problem

[round current]

whats wrong

[onyx blade]

i got the gold sticker on every joker

[cloud sinew]

win 1 more run

[quaint stag]

if you're going for a money record parking + mime + gold cards usually works

[cloud sinew]

any deck any stake, unseeded

[compact gazelle]

oh do another run on any deck and stake

[onyx blade]

okayyyy

[round current]

noted

[onyx blade]

thanks

[unborn cliff]

im guessing this is like 60+ hand size instead of like 18 right

[viral raft]

sad but atleast my early game will be peak

also a gold stickering

[unborn cliff]

eternal riff raff

here win

[viral raft]

nvm this was 100% worth it

[quaint stag]

does raff technically count as an econ joker or is it its own thing

[compact gazelle]

they did like
4 bean bugs or something

[unborn cliff]

TECHNICALLY yeah

[fiery nymph]

its worth it

[compact gazelle]

on 4 crimsons

[onyx blade]

Tyy

[cloud sinew]

it's econ adjacent

[unborn cliff]

Bro.

[compact gazelle]

something like 8 copiers 44 hands?

[unborn cliff]

did they do the burglar method on all 4 too

[viral raft]

tbh not always, after the early antes is just a -1 joker slot

[cloud sinew]

probably

[compact gazelle]

you can search their messages they gave a better explanation of what they did

[cloud sinew]

the money record will be a lot lower for 1.1 though as chicot manacle and crimson handsize bugs are both confirmed to be fixed

also serpent is being reworked

[rich mauve]

I mean whatever makes you win the game I guess

[compact gazelle]

new joker with new exploits for bigger record trust :>

[unborn cliff]

do you think the hook trading card bug will be fixed

[round current]

probably

[fiery nymph]

i think you dont need 5 joker slots to win though, riff helps with scoring and econ so you dont need those 5 slots imo

[cloud sinew]

hopefully not

but it definitely isnt meant to happen

[round current]

trading card my beloved

[cloud sinew]

so probably

[unborn cliff]

it like never happens i feel like its pointless to fix

it does nothing

[fiery nymph]

i mean it fixes pretty quickly

[viral raft]

yeah but with that logic all jokers are good, Riff raff is amazing in early antes but then is almost pointless to play around unless you're playing dagger

[unborn cliff]

trading card does that already

[fiery nymph]

but its inconvenient

[rich mauve]

so like unless the new jokers, only way to naneinf is perkeo realistically?

[whole eagle]

If you get these specific jokers and order them like this(Vampire—>Midas Mask—>Golden ticket) and play either five of a kinds, full houses, flush houses, or pretty much any hand if you have the splash joker, youll get a continuous stream of +0.5 mult to the vampire for removing the gold from the face cards, but because the midas mask is placed after vampire it triggers after, making the face cards gold again, and then you get the +$4 from the golden ticket joker for the gold cards scoring(this is assuming you build a deck based around scoring 5 face cards per hand)

[cloud sinew]

the reason thunk fixes bugs like that, even if theyre "fine" gameplay wise, is because they can have major consequences to changing stuff around and adding new content

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[fiery nymph]

no because all jokers dont give the same value in scoring and econ like riff early

[rich mauve]

do we know how many jokers will be added?

[unborn cliff]

new bug that makes bean not decrease incoming

[cloud sinew]

at least 1

[ancient gyro]

or 2

[unborn cliff]

6 or 7

😂✌️

[rich mauve]

new banana

[fiery nymph]

i want more jokers that enable hands like shortcut

[cloud sinew]

why 2, i thought we only had new 'nana confirmed

[knotty zodiac]

does that mean c++ will need to be recleared?

[cloud sinew]

not for the achievement, no

[ancient gyro]

im going off of what he said

[cloud sinew]

you can't revoke someone's achievements, it can only be done by steam or yourself

[onyx blade]

i did it

[compact gazelle]

no but whoever doesnt have it by then will have to sticker the new ones

[unborn cliff]

steam support comes to your house and wipes your account if you have c++

[round current]

congrats!!

[rich mauve]

also it would suck

[cloud sinew]

i see #🎙・server-chat message

[compact gazelle]

wouldnt put it past them

[cloud sinew]

hello cat

[round current]

love that cat

[viral raft]

Should i dagger or just Supernova spam?

[cloud sinew]

okay invis did not copy cat :(

[rich mauve]

although, we can maybe have c+++ at least non-officially

[ancient gyro]

dont car 💔

[cloud sinew]

it did not car :(

this is my 2nd deck of gsg

[ancient gyro]

it did not holy yap

great

[rich mauve]

does invis actually hit the jokers you like when not alone?

[whole eagle]

nice

[cloud sinew]

what do you mean

[round current]

very rarely for me

[rich mauve]

like you sell it when there is more than 1 joker

[whole eagle]

what hand did you use for the jokerless challenge, I used straights for it

[rich mauve]

and it hits the one that you wouldn't want

most of the time

[cloud sinew]

straights worked for me the most

[onyx blade]

i used flushes

[cloud sinew]

70% of my jokerless wins are with straights i think

let me check

[whole eagle]

Peak

[cloud sinew]

okay 7/12 were with straights

[autumn trout]

I've played for 10+ hours at this point and have not gotten my first win.

[cloud sinew]

that's okay twin

balatro is hard

[whole eagle]

i dont think I would’ve ever beaten jokerless with flushes lol

[rich mauve]

we all did

probably

[candid niche]

alr bro

[rich mauve]

most of us

[onyx blade]

jokerless was the first challenge i've beaten

[round current]

been there done that

[rancid glade]

prepping for yorick guys trust

[cloud sinew]

mr worldwide

[ancient gyro]

i still lose 1200 hours in, it's just what i am

[whole eagle]

thats not possible its the last challenge unlocked

[cloud sinew]

couldve unlocked all

[whole eagle]

cause you start out woth the first five unlocked

[ancient gyro]

whatever happened to the challenge deck gauntlet

[compact gazelle]

unlock all

[cloud sinew]

uhh

[compact gazelle]

probably

[cloud sinew]

i won

[ancient gyro]

fr?

[whole eagle]

what?

[ancient gyro]

unlock all

[compact gazelle]

they probably used unlock all

[round current]

are all the challenges locked to white stake

[humble gulch]

I-... Uhm

[whole eagle]

there are cheats?

[autumn trout]

The run I started last night is looking good. I have perkeo

[cloud sinew]

@ancient gyro

[round current]

good luck

[cloud sinew]

did it over a year ago actually

[onyx blade]

yea

[autumn trout]

How long did it take y'all to get first win

[whole eagle]

no clue

[round current]

uhhhh

[ancient gyro]

swag

[round current]

a while

[compact gazelle]

first try
gold stake

[humble gulch]

Three hours

[compact gazelle]

learned from watching a friend for a bit

[ancient gyro]

i simply didn't remember

[autumn trout]

I must just be slow then

[round current]

ur not slow its okay

if ur stuck we can try to help

[cloud sinew]

the first 3 i started with were golden needle -> jokerless -> blast off, as theyre the least consistent imo

[compact gazelle]

no youre good
its normal to take a while to learn since the traps beginners fall for are VERY appealing

[round current]

i lose alll the time i suck its okay i get it

[cloud sinew]

so i have a lot of golden needle experience and can beat it pretty consistently

[ancient gyro]

someone finally understands blast off

[autumn trout]

I've been trying to learn strategy. I've heard of pairslop as a good strat.

[ancient gyro]

how about doing challenge deck gauntlet in order 🗣️

[humble gulch]

I love blast off

Blast off is so fun

Bram power too

[cloud sinew]

it's like plasma deck purple stake+ as it's hard to win consistently, but winning once is almost guaranteed within a bunch of attempts as you can highroll into a win

[rancid glade]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[round current]

with supernova that’s not bad

[humble gulch]

I guess, bro

[brave fox]

I managed to leave my ramen untouched till now, but it seems im gonna have to start slurping now 😭

[whole eagle]

the fragile challenge was fun ngl

[humble gulch]

Hi, Swiss

[fiery nymph]

hi

[ancient gyro]

got any army knives

[cloud sinew]

<@&1133519078540185692>

silly bots

[ancient gyro]

blast off pissed me off when I first attempted it

[humble gulch]

[cloud sinew]

thoughts on me taking seltzer over one of my green jokers so i can actually scale cat?

[ancient gyro]

um

do you need an x2 this ante

[humble gulch]

I find it really fun

[cloud sinew]

boss is tooth so no, but i definitely lose to vessel a8 / wall a7 if i dont have xmult from cat

[ancient gyro]

2 hands and discards are poo the winnie

[autumn trout]

I'm watching balatro university in hopes of getting good.

[ancient gyro]

I'll take it

[cloud sinew]

good

[humble gulch]

Stop

[cloud sinew]

i was gonna take it anyway unless you said a really good reason otherwise, but just wanted to feel good about my decision

[humble gulch]

Okay then

[cloud sinew]

time to sell hex for interest

[ancient gyro]

a grimbo was gonna be replaced sooner or later anyways

[fiery nymph]

im convinced you start your games with hone

[humble gulch]

I just wait for ante 5 and turn it into an eternal

[ancient gyro]

money doesn't seem to be an issue

[autumn trout]

The dyslexia goes hard with that sentence.

[cloud sinew]

chad will die guaranteed though

[humble gulch]

Yes

[fiery nymph]

no chad never dies because photo exists and its the best combo

[ancient gyro]

best?

impact font

text

whatever

[humble gulch]

Whatever

[fiery nymph]

😭

[cloud sinew]

got 3 triggers in one round, seltz was definitely the play

[ancient gyro]

i suppose chap

[autumn trout]

Does what you get on your first few shops determine if you have to change your strat

[ancient gyro]

your build can change at any point in the run

[autumn trout]

How does a pairslop run generally go

[fiery nymph]

what would be a good idea of an enabler

[fiery nymph]

chips, scaling mult, xmult(towards the ending antes) and value generator

[cloud sinew]

i used seltzer up then got it next shop 🔥

this MIGHT be peak

[ancient gyro]

pair slop at higher stakes usually happen when you find a joker that lets you scale requiring all your hands or when the joker doesn't care about what hand you play

[cloud sinew]

also a7 is wall, im glad i planned for the worst case.

[ancient gyro]

waiter waiter

[autumn trout]

So it seems enhancers are better than enablers for pairs because pairs are already so easy to get

[fiery nymph]

i dont think a pair enabler exists

[fiery nymph]

you wanna put seals on ur cards really

specifically purple and blue seals

[autumn trout]

I'm gonna go get my computer and play. Can y'all help with my run? I'm trying to get first win.

[humble gulch]

Alright

[cloud sinew]

sure

[ancient gyro]

ppl here can help sure

lilo and a few others can give decent advice

[fiery nymph]

i remember i helped someone win the first time and i got them to like e30

because vagabond goated

i feel like tht game was a bad example

[ancient gyro]

i remember coaching someone through black deck gs a few times 🫩

[humble gulch]

What a useful joker

[fiery nymph]

😭

[serene forge]

sell photo

[humble gulch]

Sold chad

[fiery nymph]

is it really that bad with photo though

[waxen fable]

it goes like this

[humble gulch]

I mean, I don't need it

[fiery nymph]

true

[cloud sinew]

oh yeah i definitely win this

vessel is an issue but i can scale cat enough by then im sure

[fiery nymph]

how many lucky cards do you even have?

[waxen fable]

in the cat we trust

also w seltzer burn

[cloud sinew]

7 i think

[fiery nymph]

makes sense

cat always shows up in my 4oak builds

becayse i always turn them lucky

[ancient gyro]

what'd u think of my tier list earlier, might do some changes for the upper case tiers

[fiery nymph]

can i see

[humble gulch]

Maybe I do have hone

[cloud sinew]

OKAY THE BOSS IS VESSEL

BUT DCUT IN A8 🔥

[ancient gyro]

funny

o

[ancient gyro]

did the blinds in like 5 min so um

yeah

[autumn pendant]

how do you get remotely enough jokers to naneinf? obviously this run failed bc I couldn't get red seal but where do you even get the room for that many jokers? Ecto your hand to death?

[cloud sinew]

yes

you use ectos

[autumn pendant]

Where get spectral

Just hope for packs?

[cloud sinew]

sixth sense or seance

[ancient gyro]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[autumn pendant]

I was worried that would be the answer

I haven't actually looked at a naneinf guide aside from get a shit load of joker mime and blueprint/storm with showman and play hands with burglar on the serpent. I should probably do that

[fiery nymph]

i would personally put the order and the family a lil higher, thats just my opinion, everything else is pretty reasonable

[autumn pendant]

How rare is a seed that can be naneinfed on?

[shell dagger]

not that rare

it depends on voucher and boss rng

[eager summit]

jfc, i'm baroning it

[humble gulch]

Bruh

[ancient gyro]

tiers in caps are separated by their own joker type, tiers in lower case are arranged in order within the list

[rancid glade]

Ouija 🔥

[humble gulch]

Oops

[ancient gyro]

scoring against card draw tampering bosses and it being more conditional than x mults above it knock it down a spot

[cloud sinew]

can you make it easier to read

[frank notch]

put mime to the left, youll score more and get more money

[autumn pendant]

Yeah I know that scores higher with my jokers but I die to that round anyways

[ancient gyro]

how should I do that

[frank notch]

still do that

i think you could actually win

[cloud sinew]

@grok make the only tiers be S through F, all capitalised, and make the jokers be ordered within the tiers as well as between tiers.

[humble gulch]

Three stickers

[fiery nymph]

nab

[ancient gyro]

only s to f 😐
that's no fun

[junior hamlet]

do i take invis instead of showman

i dont think i have naneinf potential

[autumn pendant]

I did not

[humble gulch]

:3

[frank notch]

well did you copy mime?

[autumn pendant]

Yes

[ancient gyro]

joker order between the tiers is going to be long asf to finish

[frank notch]

ok

[autumn trout]

I fear I might just be bad at balatro

After all this practice

With no win

[humble gulch]

Hmph

[autumn pendant]

inb4 copies the stencil

[humble gulch]

At least I got a mega

[dawn fable]

decisions decisions

[humble gulch]

Gg

[junior hamlet]

i just beat amber acorn and i havent bothered to fix it

[ancient gyro]

I tried to do it for individual joker types within the tier like with castle and blue

[autumn pendant]

I also dont even have all the jokers unlocked yet not exactly sure why im trying to naneinf

But actually wait that might be good

[cloud sinew]

if only there was a joker in my arsenal whose effect was on blind select so i could sell it in-round to no detriment...

[autumn pendant]

I do need to unlock invisible joker though

Because I have not done that yet

Probably just win on painted deck?

[ancient gyro]

provided no negative pickups

[atomic trout]

Aww man

[fiery nymph]

the infamous car lucky

[cloud sinew]

2/15 gold stake gauntlet

yellow deck time

[atomic trout]

I'm only 1/15 😢

[cloud sinew]

holy shit

[ancient gyro]

pluh

[cloud sinew]

holy shit

[shell dagger]

yum

[ancient gyro]

money printer

[autumn trout]

I liek red

[shell dagger]

my greedy ass would’ve taken spectral over buffoon

[ancient gyro]

i like bean

[random terrace]

My first good run

[cloud sinew]

thank god

[ancient gyro]

bruh

[cloud sinew]

its fine i got a +6 red card now

[random terrace]

W

[ancient gyro]

sugoi

[autumn trout]

I've been invested in this game for months but haven't gotten anywhere with it.

[cloud sinew]

okay so i think i just win this one

[shell dagger]

bull

[ancient gyro]

my shit ain't loading

o cool

[shell dagger]

plasma deck seed

even without the blueprint

[ancient gyro]

and red card 👅

allegedly

[shell dagger]

well you wouldn’t even see the red card

or i wouldnt

[bronze widget]

red cards rental hold r

[cloud sinew]

the limiting factor at this point is honestly just like

[ancient gyro]

green card

[autumn pendant]

imagine if it was an ankh or a hex tho

[cloud sinew]

not being able to use hands as much because im scoring so well

my lobster is too buttery

[bronze widget]

i am too juicy

[fiery nymph]

faceless feels a lil underrated

[shell dagger]

probably is

[bronze widget]

wldnt say underrayed

[fiery nymph]

its a really solid econ

[bronze widget]

i feel like it gets enough love

[shell dagger]

it’s so easy to get $10

[fiery nymph]

better than most

[ancient gyro]

faceless is very good in practice

[bronze widget]

who hates faceless

[cloud sinew]

probably

[cloud sinew]

that is not what underrated means

[bronze widget]

not used /appreciated enough no?

[shell dagger]

i feel like faceless gets shoved in that golden joker tier

or just above it

[cloud sinew]

thats my xmult sorted

[ancient gyro]

im well confident that faceless can be taken in any condition

[fiery nymph]

also mid round money > end of round money

in my lukewarm opinion

[cloud sinew]

i'm scoring 40k in one hand at ante 3 😭

[shell dagger]

gg

operation: draw the 3oak

[fiery nymph]

you won at round 2 💔

[cloud sinew]

im just wondering what im really vulnerable to at this point

not drawing a 3oak probably

[fiery nymph]

thats like

[bronze widget]

guys balatro needs to add a joker

that just disables

30% of your deck randomly

[fiery nymph]

a single strength

[bronze widget]

thatd be funny

[fiery nymph]

puts you into 3oak territory

[bronze widget]

30/100 of your deck and oops all 6s doubles it

[autumn trout]

What next

[cloud sinew]

holy shit

[autumn pendant]

Joker that has the same effect as two blueprints but also has a 1 in 250 chance to end your run every time you play a hand or discard

[shell dagger]

start printing neptune fr

[ancient gyro]

abstract over devious

or that

[cloud sinew]

okay so

do i take midas over faceless

[autumn trout]

For why? I'm considering actually.

[round current]

probably cause of stone joker

[cloud sinew]

because devious is inconsistent and your chips will likely be coming from stones

[round current]

yeah

[shell dagger]

you probably don’t need trio for a while don’t you

midas probably has better short term

[cloud sinew]

not for another ante or 2

[pale wolf]

beep

[fiery nymph]

i think its unnecessary

[cloud sinew]

also swapping faceless means im not hurting my 3oak safety by discarding faces

[nova elk]

thank god, welcome the Invisible Joker

[autumn trout]

Do I buy that voucher. In my mind I could start printing planets easier but is the voucher worth it

[bronze widget]

id stick w faceless

[round current]

yo congrats

[cloud sinew]

if there is a way for me to lose then i have not optimised enough

[nova elk]

thanks

it took like 30 runs

[round current]

i bet

[nova elk]

I wish I were drspectrd

[bronze widget]

yeah but for the next 5 turns you have to play as many high cards as possible and also not gonna get money from the gold cause ur making it

[cloud sinew]

im doing a 15 deck streak, this is my 3rd deck in.

[bronze widget]

and or trying to draw

[autumn trout]

Reroll or no

[fiery nymph]

i dont see how you lose this anymore

[nova elk]

you got 55 bucks, why not

[cloud sinew]

by not drawing a 3oak

or getting crimson

[fiery nymph]

that takes like 2 tarots

[cloud sinew]

if it's a possibility every round then it's something i need to deckfix for as well as keep security tarots

[fiery nymph]

its safe to assume you have enough fixing to consistently get a 3oak in the near future right

[cloud sinew]

why do I have to play as many high cards as possible

[cloud sinew]

no

[autumn trout]

Do I get anything

[fiery nymph]

it genuinely takes like a single strength to make 3oak online

[cloud sinew]

no, you reroll

[autumn trout]

Again?

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[ancient gyro]

it's not late game yet

[fiery nymph]

crimson is a threat tho ur right

[fiery nymph]

thats why i said near future

[willow frost]

perkeo hermit lets go

[fiery nymph]

they have so much time to fix and get econ

[autumn trout]

What now

[cloud sinew]

midas over faceless means i have a joker i can easily replace for another scoring source without losing my econ

which makes me less susceptible to crimson

[fiery nymph]

i guess

over faceless?

yeah

[shell dagger]

ideally xmult that doesn’t need 3oak to acore

[cloud sinew]

yeah

[shell dagger]

so you can hc and get midas money

[cloud sinew]

im scoring pretty comfortably rn, i 2-shot with a high card, but i'll have to start using trio within an ante or 2

[autumn trout]

If nobody says anything Im gonna next round

[cloud sinew]

reroll again

[fiery nymph]

vessel shouldnt be a problem either with how ur scaling no?

[autumn trout]

What now

[cloud sinew]

it isn't

[cloud sinew]

next round

[bronze widget]

i meant face cards i am slow sorry

🥺

[knotty zodiac]

1 printscreen
2 find a chip source
3 but since rerolls are o expensive and it looks like you survive, go next

[bronze widget]

survive

copy hermi to econ

then tryt o find a spectral through like

[grizzled robin]

Ahhahaahahaha bro this fucjing seed

[shell dagger]

sell neptune

[bronze widget]

sixth sense

to copy

[grizzled robin]

Holy shit this seed

[bronze widget]

a good spectral wld be good

[grizzled robin]

Is fucking mental

[grizzled robin]

Officially the fastest baron setup in the gane i think

Ever

[knotty zodiac]

i heard you like blueprint

[grizzled robin]

Ante 5 with those

Gotta be world record

Refuse to believe otherwise

[cloud sinew]

no

[cloud sinew]

theres a seed that naneinfs at ante 5

[cinder thicket]

I genuinely like GENUINELY DESPISE the plant bro

[shell dagger]

sell neptune

[grizzled robin]

Oh...

Still a top 1000 seed

For sure

Theres no way its not

[bronze widget]

seeded?

[shell dagger]

top 2.2 trillion for sho

[autumn trout]

????????????????????????

[bronze widget]

just nat negatives right?

[autumn trout]

No.

[cloud sinew]

there are ~2 trillion seeds, i don't really think it's top 0.0000005%

[grizzled robin]

Considering found ones i meant

[shell dagger]

sorry if my sarcasm earlier didn’t translate over text but $20 per round is better than copying a planet of one of the worst hands

[grizzled robin]

Not considering, top 1 million

Maybe

Or ok top 10 million

[cloud sinew]

massive cope

[grizzled robin]

You mean theres 9.999 million seeds better than 3 blueprints and allthat

By ante 5

[bronze widget]

seeded or unseeded?

[grizzled robin]

Unseded

Unseeded

[autumn trout]

I was asking for what to do. Not sure sarcasm was the best move. Im genuinely new to this and was trusting people

[bronze widget]

probably yeah

[cloud sinew]

do i consider taking constellation over midas? 9/15 of my faces have turned to gold

[bronze widget]

there is an infinite amount of seed and with seed diggers you can literally find seeds with natural negative brai nstorm bp baron and mime probably

[shell dagger]

infinite

[grizzled robin]

A bit late for it imo

[cloud sinew]

that is not true

[ancient gyro]

can you link me the world record documents with like highest Jj, camp and what not

[grizzled robin]

Youre low in money

[bronze widget]

:(

[grizzled robin]

I personally say no

[cloud sinew]

there are a finite amount of seeds

~2.3 trillion

[hasty harness]

i wonder if we'll ever find a seed better then the nat neg blueprint ankh into nat negative perkeo

[cloud sinew]

uhhh

[shell dagger]

isn’t there a blueprint brainstorm perkeo all negative

[cloud sinew]

there's an updated one since then

as the original wasnt maintained

[bronze widget]

okay whatever

[autumn trout]

Why would someone purposefully tell me to do the wrong thing.

[grizzled robin]

Btw here i take the mime and sell brainstorm right

[hasty harness]

best one ik of is the one where u get nat negative bp first buffoon pack then ankh it and then get nat negative perkeo all in like 2 antes

[grizzled robin]

I dont need scoring but i have full gold cards

[void topaz]

what

i unlocked who

[grizzled robin]

And a red seal card

[shell dagger]

sorry but this is the internet after all

[cloud sinew]

it wasn't that big of a mistake tbf, but also that's not your fault

[grizzled robin]

Bro unlocked nosk from hollow knight im dead 😭

[cloud sinew]

you should be fine to just play the queens with a stone and 2 throwaway cards

[ancient gyro]

shame on you 🥀

[bronze widget]

you wanna naninf?

[shell dagger]

tomatoes on his head

[grizzled robin]

God willing ye

[bronze widget]

if you do vouchers are the main problem so rn any colas you find you still gotta sell a joekr and take the cola to try to get a

voucher skip

[grizzled robin]

Too good of a start not to

[bronze widget]

you need retcon and antimatter fs

or bean bug on nate 8 if u know how to

[ancient gyro]

i could use a list of that w and w/o perkeo

[grizzled robin]

Idk if thats possible id have to sell shit

[cloud sinew]

let me see if i can find it

[bronze widget]

yeah but not too much its still worth it

[grizzled robin]

Yeah need to do some reeeeeally good farming

[bronze widget]

just econ a lot till tehn and ull ebe fine

yeahh

[knotty zodiac]

isnt a straight close to a one shot here...?

[bronze widget]

get colas

you need like

10 double tag

well like

[cloud sinew]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1RH7gxp0b6-XiC63Obcsnoo_1eF1LZerKYpiCmESiWDk/htmlview

[bronze widget]

8 should be enoiugh

[humble gulch]

Hi there

[cloud sinew]

supernova

[knotty zodiac]

beautiful

[cloud sinew]

i would sell juggler for supernova

[bronze widget]

supernova over juggler probably

copy temperances cause you have egg

[humble gulch]

The wall kills me, gg

[knotty zodiac]

y so many jumpscares

[cloud sinew]

i dont take anything here

[ancient gyro]

googly moogly

[cloud sinew]

reroll once

[cloud sinew]

AAAH

you scared me

[ancient gyro]

mb

[cloud sinew]

i would take telescope and go next

[cloud sinew]

yellow deck game isnt won yet but

im not looking forward to green

and then we both know what comes after

[ancient gyro]

lol

[shell dagger]

the dreaded ghost deck

[ancient gyro]

this mall has like zero cell phone reception 🤳

mf

[shell dagger]

stop driving

[ancient gyro]

im not

[autumn trout]

I think I’m starting to git good

I would take arcana pack. Is that the correct move

[fallow shadow]

hello. i am wondering how to you unlocked the scribble joker?

[cloud sinew]

yes

[fallow shadow]

people score big big point with scribbly joker

[cloud sinew]

discard a flush pair

[fallow shadow]

OK thank you discord user im mad glubget | C++

[cloud sinew]

i no longer need to worry about crimson

[autumn trout]

What do I take

[cloud sinew]

hanged man the ace and the diamond 4

[autumn trout]

What next

[cloud sinew]

reroll

[grizzled robin]

So what should i sell to start farming colas

Someone help

[humble gulch]

One more sticker

[autumn trout]

What do I do

[knotty zodiac]

ya verdant blackboard -1 is a bit sad

[grizzled robin]

@bronze widget

Help pls

[humble gulch]

I-... Okay

[cloud sinew]

take tower and go next

[autumn trout]

But dont we want the hermit to duplicate

[grizzled robin]

Glubget what sell here

[cloud sinew]

you should use tower in the round

[grizzled robin]

I require assistance

[cloud sinew]

probably DNA

[autumn trout]

It’s okay it duped hermit anyway. Worked out. Got the tower too.

[grizzled robin]

Ok thanks thats fair

[autumn trout]

When do I use tower

[ancient gyro]

crimson bean 👅👅

[grizzled robin]

Lmfao i got a brainstorm right after selling the cola

[gentle basalt]

how is tower worth paying 8.33$ for?
(3$ buy cost, 1 / 3 probabiility of losing 16$)

[grizzled robin]

That is the 4th brainstorm to appear this run

Fucking insane

[humble gulch]

Needle killed me

[autumn trout]

What do I tower

[humble gulch]

Anyways

[wintry ice]

no hex

:(

[humble gulch]

Died

[autumn trout]

My deck has an unholy amount of stones.

[humble gulch]

🔥

Fuck

[ancient gyro]

pluh

[autumn trout]

Do I add stone to another heart?

[dense locust]

what should i get rid of, scary face?

[autumn trout]

Uhhh no

[knotty zodiac]

<@&1133519078540185692>

[humble gulch]

Money

[dense locust]

not triboulet again...

bro sucked ass last time

[humble gulch]

W-WHAT, WHY?

[autumn trout]

What now

[cloud sinew]

chips

[heavy heron]

i ain’t have a run like this in a minute..

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[autumn trout]

I like your username

[heavy heron]

this might be a first for me

[serene forge]

thanks

[round current]

wtf awesome

congrats tho that build is awesome

[heavy heron]

i didn’t need flat mult the entire run LOOLLL

thank you

[round current]

thats insane

[dense locust]

i don't like triboulet bro has done nothing for me twice now

[ancient gyro]

neither did i

[ancient gyro]

real

[split rivet]

omg i NEARLY beat jokerless this time

[heavy heron]

the lovely photochad baron

[split rivet]

tried flush build for the first time and it is surprisingly viable even with the scaling problems

[dense locust]

goat?

[cursive crater]

stats menu synergy

[split rivet]

I didn't even have to fight VV this time, it was CB and still I only got 70k/100k

[ancient gyro]

don't forget bloodstuh

[ancient gyro]

only 💔

[split rivet]

yep 🥀

[gentle basalt]

try straights, it is most consistent for me for jokerless

you kind of have to force straights/4 of a kind to win jokerless

and 4 of a kind is hard to play at the start

[split rivet]

i usually do but the problem with that is that arcana packs are almost useless

[ancient gyro]

debatable

[autumn trout]

GUYS. GUYS. GUYS. HOLY SHITE.

[split rivet]

yolkin time

[ancient gyro]

pulls one of these

[gentle basalt]

money, money, lucky, glass, steel, hang-men, gold, death
all pretty good hits

[humble gulch]

No stickers

[heavy heron]

yo are you down for a challenge

[ancient gyro]

my phone is at 3%

[heavy heron]

i give you a seed, you open first buffoon pack, you go big blind and then open the arcana pack

after that, your goal is to get the highest score possible on ante 8 boss

are you down

gold stake ghost

[split rivet]

sure but flush build you got all that + shape your deck by boosting favorable suit and nerfing unfavorable ones

[heavy heron]

it doesn’t have to be now but like whenever

[ancient gyro]

i don't have a spare profile slot to do seeded runs atm

[heavy heron]

ofc you don’t

[gentle basalt]

so 2 extra good hits? (wild is debatable too)

[cloud sinew]

what do i hold

[heavy heron]

red card

wait

hmm

[dense locust]

is this good cuz it feels good but idk lol

[cloud sinew]

bull and trio are eternal so that's fine

[heavy heron]

you can always just play a hand to find out where everything is

you’ll have to do that either way

[proven gulch]

red card

[cloud sinew]

true

[heavy heron]

whether you move red card or hold constellation

[cloud sinew]

yeah ill just hold red

[ancient gyro]

pairless++ is ongoing
black++ doesn't have ghost gs unlocked yet
gsg/streak profile is for streaking

maybe when I get my macbook soon

whenever

[heavy heron]

ok…

[ancient gyro]

pretty good

[cloud sinew]

won in 1 hand anyway

3/15 gsg

green deck time

[heavy heron]

gsg?

[foggy sun]

chat should I wraith?

[heavy heron]

dub

[heavy heron]

sure! you have nothing to lose!

just sell negative blueprint to make space!

[foggy sun]

EXACTLY

[tranquil cedar]

this guy gets it

btw omori tag omg

[foggy sun]

Also I must say its so painful not having overstock 19 antes in (took both rewind vouchers)

and zero voucher tags

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[ancient gyro]

gold stake gauntlet

[cloud sinew]

balatro brochacho time to start my run

[alpine crescent]

im uncle! grandpa!

[heavy heron]

no idea what that means

[heavy heron]

YESSSSS

[ancient gyro]

15 gold stake wins
1 per deck
no losses

[cloud sinew]

omg runner

[heavy heron]

that makes sense actually

[ancient gyro]

marathoner

[tranquil cedar]

YEAHHHHHH

[heavy heron]

YEAAAA

[humble gulch]

Go quintuple runner

[heavy heron]

spectral ankh nex t shop

[cloud sinew]

im gonna take jimbo and move on

[tranquil cedar]

YIPPIEEE

[cloud sinew]

im not forgetting that interest isnt a thing, i just want to be able to buy stuff next shop

[alpine crescent]

i didnt even have this run today i just really wanted y'all to see this monstrosity

[heavy heron]

wait did you always have that aubrey pfp i just noticed it bro LOOLL

fire

[tranquil cedar]

lmao yeah

[cloud sinew]

2 okay xmults, what are we thinking

[heavy heron]

you prob need to find a straight in just 2 discards then because you’re winning in one hand no matter what prob

[humble gulch]

Both

[heavy heron]

OH WAIT GREEN DECK it’s so nice being able to buy stuff

if you really want to win, it’s take both

[cloud sinew]

i need to win

[alpine crescent]

"I'm gonna beat Black Deck on Orange Stake today!" I said and failed and also died

[heavy heron]

but it’s ok if you don’t wanna decide yet since

[dense locust]

if i buy this, will it make a joker before getting destroyed or no

[tranquil cedar]

💔 rip uncle grandpa

[heavy heron]

hermit fool in pack

[heavy heron]

yes it will make a joker in time if you move it tot the left

[void topaz]

ok so seeing double doesnt work when the cards are debuffed but blackboard does

[alpine crescent]

boy i sure glad i'm not uncle grandpa right now

[heavy heron]

wait no

left

yes left

[tranquil cedar]

dude say the thing

[grizzled robin]

Should i get it?? My handsize will be 3 but if i get a dna its probably ok

The ecto

[alpine crescent]

if you put riff raff before madness then yes

[grizzled robin]

Thoughts?

[humble gulch]

I got @weak relic

[alpine crescent]

there are a lot of people that owe me money!

[void topaz]

im fairly sure you dont need 3 ectos

you dont even really need 2 ectos

[alpine crescent]

uh i mean GOOD MORNING!

[grizzled robin]

To naninf?

[void topaz]

yuh

[cloud sinew]

it does it regardless of position iirc

[tranquil cedar]

HELL YEAH

[pale wolf]

I like to balatro and drive

[dense locust]

i mean what should i do here anyways actually this run feels good and i don't wanna fuck it up lol

[grizzled robin]

But why? One more slot for dna will mean 4 cards copied for -3 slots

Its more optimal is it not

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[void topaz]

this just wins

[cloud sinew]

i would not take riff raff here

[pale wolf]

Not what I heard

[void topaz]

just get high card levels

not high card

pair

fuck

[cloud sinew]

slue beal

[dense locust]

yea i mean the issue is that all my hands are lvl 2 from a single black hole and nothing else

[humble gulch]

I need to try

[alpine crescent]

wait i just realized that both of the other jokers are eternal then yeah it destroys the riff raff regardless

[dense locust]

so i'm kinda losing

[serene forge]

take it if you want to waste 1 dollar

[tranquil cedar]

🔵 🦭

[alpine crescent]

(when will he realize)

[pale wolf]

madness to the left of riff Raff will kill riff Raff before it gets a chance to generate a joker, no?

so you would be better off just buying and selling the riff Raff anyways and getting the single campfire scale you would have gotten

or any other Joker

[humble gulch]

Alright

[fringe nebula]

damn

[tranquil cedar]

the fact that rental invis is only worse than regular by $2

[fringe nebula]

that's kinda mad

[serene forge]

wow

[alpine crescent]

did you just. skip all the way and managed to beat 2 boss blinds

[fringe nebula]

yes

[cloud sinew]

only if madness is to the left of riff raff

[pale wolf]

That was the thing I said yeah

[humble gulch]

I'M mad

[cloud sinew]

right

[humble gulch]

GUYS

[pale wolf]

lol

[cloud sinew]

peak

[round current]

hell yeah

do it

[alpine crescent]

this happened to me with card sharp once

[autumn trout]

What is better, x3 mult or +64 mult

[pale wolf]

You could just get two annkhs right now

[round current]

LOL.

[void lintel]

holy xmult

[fringe nebula]

absolute madness

[pale wolf]

🦓 🦓 🦓

The run of all time

[alpine crescent]

this ALSO happened to me with card sharp once

[humble gulch]

I'm the madness

[fringe nebula]

unfortunately, the chance of getting a gold sticker is quite low because of the build

[alpine crescent]

eternal blueprint in the next shop trust /j

[pale wolf]

A rubber room with rats

[humble gulch]

Ew

[spark kernel]

Free win pretty much

[pale wolf]

so obviously you refuse any Joker besides ankh right

or invis

[fringe nebula]

how many legendaries left btw

[humble gulch]

Three...

[cloud sinew]

my mind is a machine

selling photo now

[bronze widget]

no antimatter ante 4 hold r

[fringe nebula]

I "just" need to find chicot

😭

[bronze widget]

the humble chicot does not show up

[cloud sinew]

oh my god

[bronze widget]

he is summoned

[bronze widget]

isnt it too late

[fringe nebula]

no

[cloud sinew]

absolutely not