🕹・game-discussion

[frank grove]

where did they come from?

[pastel hatch]

Guys just let them be lmao they weren't asking for help with blinds, it's fiiiine

[patent sail]

make more good cards

[rigid mesa]

Shops

[vestal copper]

we are giving advice

[frank grove]

why are you taking them though

[rigid mesa]

Free

[frank grove]

if they're not queens why are you taking random cards

WHAT

[rigid mesa]

I had 2 free shops in a row

[vestal copper]

???

[frank grove]

what???

[rigid mesa]

Wdym what

[pastel hatch]

Skip tags

[vestal copper]

coupon tags?

[patent sail]

the tag

[frank grove]

skip random nonsense

[rigid mesa]

Skip tags

[vestal copper]

but why

[frank grove]

why are you even taking random aces and kings or whatever

[rigid mesa]

Well thwyre mostly face cards because j was playing an ace build earlier

[frank grove]

instead of skipping the standard packs if they dont have queens ??

[rigid mesa]

So I was gonna just strength them into aces

[vestal copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1463720276872265728.webp?size=48&name=quogplush~1&lossless=true

[patent sail]

coupon tag is lowk such bait, like it may seem good but 99% of the time its gonna do like nothing for you

[frank grove]

with what money from what shops?

[rigid mesa]

But then I picked up speculative mimr

[vestal copper]

oh my god.

[rigid mesa]

Skip tags

[frank grove]

You have 19 dollars

and 57 cards

[patent sail]

i only ever take it when i full skip ante 1 while bored on low stakes

[rigid mesa]

I Spent it

[vestal copper]

why

[frank grove]

again, 57 cards

and below interest

[mint jetty]

This feels like ragebait but i can't prove it

[rigid mesa]

Looking for cards to get more queens in the pack

[vestal copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1008707962249941102.png?size=48&name=true~1&lossless=true

[lime remnant]

only skip when you know you can win and you just wanna get out 🔥

[patent sail]

its okay guys theyll figure it out eventually

[rigid mesa]

I didnt ask for advice on my blinds bro I just asked if I should take soul

[vestal copper]

throwback is at?

[rigid mesa]

And it seems like everyone's saying no so Ill leave it

[frank grove]

you shouldnt take the soul and you die to like 4 bosses good luck

[rigid mesa]

2.25x

[lime remnant]

2.25 im crine

[vestal copper]

well

[lime remnant]

this guy is not gonna get far

[vestal copper]

prob no

[lime remnant]

in higher stake

[vestal copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1008707962249941102.png?size=48&name=true~1&lossless=true

[rigid mesa]

Ive beat orange already

[patent sail]

well, just think of what it may give you and which jonklers may be good for you

[rigid mesa]

I have yet to even attempt gold

[lime remnant]

how many attempts

[pastel hatch]

Yeah I dunno why they're forcing it so hard lmao

[patent sail]

i dont think it would do much here

[rigid mesa]

Idk where do I check that I haven't touched yellow deck in eons

[lime remnant]

wtv bro i cant argue with geniuses

[rigid mesa]

The only ones I really want would be chicot and yorick

Maybe canio

[patent sail]

2/5 chance which requires to remove something you need yeah no

[frank grove]

perkeo would be good if you didnt skip blinds since you could get deaths for queens

[pastel hatch]

Yorick pretty bad if you don't play blinds

[rigid mesa]

Yeah but im always using all 15 discards it would add up quick

And id pribably just play small blinds to get more discards off if I did pull him

Not playing them before foesnt mean I have to not play them ever

[patent sail]

if you got the winnable score just focus on stm at this point

[rigid mesa]

Hermit or devil then

[frank grove]

hermit

[pastel hatch]

Blinds are great are making money, working towards consistent draws and rounding up your joker lineup

[frank grove]

also spreading rerolls in the shop throughout an ante costs wayy less than doing it all at once

[rigid mesa]

That went well

[pastel hatch]

Also stuff like blue seals improve scoring as well which can be really nice

[slow iris]

i'm shooting it. and by "it" i mean the moon

[rigid mesa]

🤔

Perchance?

[drowsy rain]

Judgement into fool into judgement gave me brainstorm baseball card 😭😭

[mint jetty]

In my opinion there really only 3 skip tags that are actually viable to take sometimes (outside of anaglyph deck)

Which are investiment, orbital and boss tag

[frank grove]

investment, handy and orbital if it hits a good hand

[rigid mesa]

Skips are always viable if youre not consistently skipping youre playing wrong imo

[mint jetty]

Handy too

[gentle basalt]

A lot of the skips have situational uses

[drowsy rain]

Investment, investment reloaded, investment the sequel

[rigid mesa]

It wouldn't be a mechanic if we weren't supposed to use them

[frank grove]

the most obvious bait ever

[gentle basalt]

Many of the money tags for example, handy or economy

Or a standard pack, with hologram

Or an early top up tag

[mint jetty]

The effects are underpowered compared to what actually playing the blinds can give you

[rigid mesa]

Its like saying any item in Isaac is bad when they're almost all viable in diffeent builds

[frank grove]

no it isnt

skipping actively hurts balatro runs

[gentle basalt]

The d6 tag is great too when you have a lot of money

[rigid mesa]

Skill issue

Thats not the skio tags fault

[lime remnant]

what should i do here

[frank grove]

ive 100% the game 2 times?

[pastel hatch]

It's like skipping treasure rooms to get planetariums(not on tkeeper)

[frank grove]

ive done full skip runs

beating the game in 8 rounds like ive done the full skip with throwback thing

[mint jetty]

Nah you're in fact just ragebaiting

[lime remnant]

do i take rtb? do i keep my money

[rigid mesa]

Since when is skill issue ragebait bro

[calm swallow]

Should I sell this

[gentle basalt]

Anyways, all that said, never skip is a good advice

[lime remnant]

yeah

[rigid mesa]

Do you have a replacement for it or

[lime remnant]

green is not doing much

[frank grove]

green is doing nothing there

[rigid mesa]

Bad advice not skipping could easily kill more runs than skippiny

[calm swallow]

This is still my first ever run so I don't have much joker

[lime remnant]

ok bro you are just ragebaiting

white stake hogger

[rigid mesa]

Yeah but why sell it if youre at max intrest and dont have a replacement in mind

Let alone unlocked

Wait until youre in the sop atleast

[lime remnant]

green is doing 0 work obviously

[rigid mesa]

*shop

[pastel hatch]

He was in fact not max interest

[gentle basalt]

Shut up dude, stop this obvious ragebait

[frank grove]

hes at 23 dollars??

[rigid mesa]

20$ isn't max?

[frank grove]

NO

[rigid mesa]

Mb

[lime remnant]

yeah this give me enough

[mint jetty]

Mind I ask you what the best skip tag is?

[rigid mesa]

What if you tell someone with a baron moment build to not take the boss recollection skip before the plant?

[fallow osprey]

$25 is the base.
With a Voucher, it's $50

[frank grove]

they're gonna say some shit like rare tag 😭

[mint jetty]

I'm curious

[rigid mesa]

Prolly investment or negative (ovehated)

[lime remnant]

thats like a super situational situation

[fallow osprey]

Cat Tag. 😄

[rigid mesa]

Theres no 1 size fits all strat

[lime remnant]

???

[gentle basalt]

One should not be building into the baron in the first place

What i mean by "never skip is good advice" is its true in 95%+ runs, which is good enough for me, rather than explain all the nuances

[mint jetty]

You are half correct

[pastel hatch]

Negative crafty joker instead of playing the blind 🔥

[gentle basalt]

I infact explained the nuances just above that

[lime remnant]

YESSS

for the sticker

[pastel hatch]

TBF I've done that when my run scaled hard enough to beat vv

[rigid mesa]

Well I mean thats the ante 1 boss right there in 1 shop

[mint jetty]

Negative perishable rental seance 🔥

[pastel hatch]

I...

[frank grove]

negative tags are so great i could get perishable rental fortune teller !!!!

just you wait guys !!!

[rigid mesa]

You know what deck I mean

[gentle basalt]

I wish spectrals were more balanced, and less variance

[pastel hatch]

You can't neg skip in ante 1

[calm swallow]

My first ever run and I can't be this insane

[gentle basalt]

Then the seance would be useable

[rigid mesa]

Yeah but that IS rhe ante 1 boss

[gentle basalt]

But right now, its too much gambling

[lime remnant]

should have been splash eternal rental

[rigid mesa]

1600

[lime remnant]

???

[rigid mesa]

Negative splash 👀👀👀

[molten thicket]

ehh seance is fine if you dedicate your build to it

[lime remnant]

bro is talking shit

[rigid mesa]

On plasma

[mint jetty]

Typo prob

[pastel hatch]

I genuinely have no clue tf you're talking about

[mint jetty]

Its 1200

[frank grove]

yeah apart from the fact that strushes dont really benefit from most of the spectral cards

[molten thicket]

what is son on about 😭 ✌️

[gentle basalt]

No, i am talking in the context of ante 8 runs
It is infact possible to get value out of seance (get a straight, get a suit changer tarot)

[lime remnant]

this guy has 0 clue what he is talking about honestly

[frank grove]

hows the stm run going?

[drowsy rain]

Idk, I kinda like the vibe spectrals give. Monkey paw type stuff. That’s why immolate just feels overpowered because it’s just a double benefit

[pastel hatch]

Its a goated multiplayer joker though

[lime remnant]

wished the benefit was stronger

[molten thicket]

yeaa

[covert tartan]

I thought of a joker idea although I don't know if it's good
Sad joker: this joker gain+4 chips for each clup card scored

[rigid mesa]

The humble sigil while youre holding a straight

[frank grove]

what

[lime remnant]

thats bad 😞

[rigid mesa]

Why's he sad

[frank grove]

you mean a straight?

[drowsy rain]

I meannn, spectrals are really powerful

some way more than others

[mint jetty]

Tf is a sigil

[fallow osprey]

His banana expired

[lime remnant]

the guy

[proper juniper]

Is there away to replay the tutorial on Android in a new profile?

[covert tartan]

Cuz clup blue

[lime remnant]

oo incantation is so powerful 😊

[pastel hatch]

Turns your hand to same suit

[rigid mesa]

Clup is blue in high contrast mode

[drowsy rain]

that’s called cherrypicking 😵‍💫

[mint jetty]

Oh yea completely forgot

[molten thicket]

spectrals just need a balance in strength to one another

[lime remnant]

sigil grim oujia is also totally so powerful too

some feels underwhelming while the other is just op

[drowsy rain]

Like I said, some are way more powerful than others. You can’t just ignore that the other half of the spectrals are powerful

[glad aspen]

I still need to unlock invis joker and the family 🫩🫩🫩

Flushes are my favorite so its so hard

[molten thicket]

i love the idea of a consumable with high reward but also a consequence so i hope that gets done more in other spectrals

[glad aspen]

And then only having 4 jokers

[pastel hatch]

I'm a oujia defender

[mint jetty]

Ouija can be good, it's just that -1 hand size for it's effect is insane

[molten thicket]

yeah

99% of the time its not worth it

[lime remnant]

yeah so as i said earlier, i wish the weaker side had more benefit

[rigid mesa]

Mfs love to hate

[covert tartan]

I thought it could work in plasma deck

[steady jasper]

insane run 3 perkeos with bps

[lime remnant]

like why are we using sigil

[frank grove]

plant in ante 7

[lime remnant]

does it scale

[glad aspen]

Throwback goat

[drowsy rain]

Hot take, I think it’s ok that some spectrals are bad, like i think it’s good game design

[steady jasper]

chilling to ante 39

[covert tartan]

Yeah gain +4 chips

[lime remnant]

maybe could work and probably also a powerful joker

[mint jetty]

What's that green thing

[rigid mesa]

Thats just there

Idk how to get rid of it

[lime remnant]

0 brainstorm hhh

[pastel hatch]

So basically a smaller wee, I would also be sad

[rigid mesa]

I mean its nore versatile

[covert tartan]

Yeah 👍

[rigid mesa]

Wee is limited to 2s

Wait no

Because the club

[pastel hatch]

Smaller wee

Unfortunate

[steady jasper]

i sell the brainstorms cause they look ugly

[rigid mesa]

The club kills it

[covert tartan]

:0

[drowsy rain]

Pretty sure you shouldn’t worry about a singular suit debuffing boss for a joker to work

[ebon condor]

wait why

[rigid mesa]

Low cortisol individual

[ebon condor]

its a scaling joker

[mint jetty]

+4 each is kinda op imo

[calm swallow]

New discoveries 119

[pastel hatch]

Man is doing that doomed Yuri scenario

[covert tartan]

The best joker in the game

[glad aspen]

I think instead of being called 'Sad Joker' It should be something related to partying/CLUBing

[ebon condor]

oh no i cant scale for 1 round

[calm swallow]

Finally I unlocked so many jokers in first run

[rigid mesa]

Yeah but scaling every round would be super important for it wouldnt it

[covert tartan]

I thought of +2 but I thought that might make very weak

[rigid mesa]

Los8ng 1 round is like

[ebon condor]

but anyways +4 per club is WAY too much

[frank grove]

this guy skips as much as he possibly can so he only gets one round to scale anyway 😭

[rigid mesa]

300+ chips gone

[steady jasper]

blueprints are far more aesthetic

bs looks like used toilet paper

[ebon condor]

what???

[pastel hatch]

For context that could mean +10 chips per hand, when square joker gives you +4

[ebon condor]

i have so many questions on how you got that number

[molten thicket]

this is so false

[mint jetty]

Its confirmed to be a napkin

[drowsy rain]

A flush of clubs a round would give 20 chips, one club in a pair would give 4, so it’s a runner and a square at the same time

[covert tartan]

Hmmm

[molten thicket]

okay you're just pulling numbers out your ass now

[pastel hatch]

It would have to be rare for sure

[rigid mesa]

Play 5
20 chips
Retrigger
40
Retrigger again
60
Retrigger again
80
X5 (hands)
400 chips

[ebon condor]

why do you have 3 retriggers ???

[rigid mesa]

Optimization

[ebon condor]

bruh

[rigid mesa]

3 retriggers isn't absurd

[drowsy rain]

Forgot bloodstone is OP in gold stake, you simply need 5 retriggers

[molten thicket]

im getting more confused by the minute

[fallow osprey]

Horrible idea for a Joker card in my half asleep stupor.

Uno Reverse Card
Joker Effects are done Right to Left, as opposed to Left to Right

[mint jetty]

We are talking about the joker by itself

[ebon condor]

on 5 hands? for every card played?

[rigid mesa]

Why would you not build around a joker like that

[glad aspen]

I havent ever done a hack/wee run, it seems fun

[pastel hatch]

Makes brainstorm much better

[ebon condor]

this is like some ante 15 type shit

[fallow osprey]

Wait what

[molten thicket]

if you have 3 retrigs then fuck that joker just run cat or photo or something

[ebon condor]

which why are you maximizing a chips joker in endless

[mint jetty]

Yes sure but first you need to consider the base joker

[fallow osprey]

Ah

[rigid mesa]

Im just considered how a run would be played with it

Hate the game not the player

[ebon condor]

it would be a pairslop joker thats how it would be played

[pastel hatch]

You could decide if you have that joker or not, so you can copy +mult or xmult with optimal positioning

[mint jetty]

?? Lmao

[ebon condor]

like +40 chips per round its pretty much just better castle

[molten thicket]

you are NOT getting 3 retrigs for EVERY card in ante8 play man

[calm swallow]

[fallow osprey]

Ah true. Very fair.

[drowsy rain]

why can’t people just own up to their mistakes

[rigid mesa]

Because they said its for plasma

[ebon condor]

for 5 hands!

even then its STILL bad

[frank grove]

Yeah

[ebon condor]

chips doesnt scale fast enough

[pastel hatch]

[covert tartan]

+15 mult frfr

[calm swallow]

Jimbo ate it

[pastel hatch]

(still difficult)

[lime remnant]

hh

blue vs the guy

[drowsy rain]

Blueprint !!

[lime remnant]

thats super blue

[calm swallow]

And give me +4mult

[rigid mesa]

Thats like getting basicslly +1 stuntman every blind

[ebon condor]

btw if you have 3 retriggers on a fully fixed deck for chips just use hiker

[calm swallow]

That guy

[molten thicket]

yeah with YOUR DUMBASS ASSUMPTIONS

[ebon condor]

its so much better in that scenario

[fallow osprey]

Stuntman is better

[rigid mesa]

I mean this is about suits not individual cards

[ebon condor]

yeah

[calm swallow]

Pointless argument

[pastel hatch]

Stuntman doesn't have a sticker

[ebon condor]

but you are assuming a full flush 5 deck so i will as well

[lime remnant]

obv

[ebon condor]

and i say if you can achieve that use hiker

[lime remnant]

but blue joker looks so pretty 🤤

[drowsy rain]

arguing about whether or not we can pull three retriggers out our ass

[rigid mesa]

Its still 52 cards

[mint jetty]

Just use idol at that point

[molten thicket]

hiker would be just way better

[rigid mesa]

Hiker would be less efficient

[ebon condor]

WHY IS IT 52 CARDS

[prisma oak]

Bro I discarded a straight flush on my alt and it did not give me brainstorm, unseeded so idk what happened

[calm swallow]

[molten thicket]

..

[lime remnant]

at that point you already trimmed everything down to 10 card lmaoo

[ebon condor]

YOU HAVE A FULLY FIXED FLUSH 5 DECK AND HAVENT DONE ANY DCK THINNING?????

[mint jetty]

Because they are adding aces

[rigid mesa]

Taking the clovers

[mint jetty]

Lmaoooo

[lime remnant]

mf having 3 retriggers and still have 52 card

smart individual

[molten thicket]

no we just highroll sigil clubs everytimr

[rigid mesa]

Aces dint get retriggers without seals or seltzer

[drowsy rain]

I think this can all be summed up in “easier said than done”

[calm swallow]

So it just gives you BS immediately if you discard straight flush?

[fallow osprey]

I like Aces though.
Ive tried to deck fix for an Ace run too

[rigid mesa]

The the joker was real I could do this easily

[mint jetty]

But i need to add more aces!!1!!11!

[rigid mesa]

This is easier done than said tbh

[lime remnant]

you need to discard a ROYAL flush

[vestal copper]

if it wasnt royal flush it wont count

[pastel hatch]

It depends how hard you try

[calm swallow]

What?

[frank grove]

chad?

[calm swallow]

It's the same

[vestal copper]

royal is the highest straight flush

[pastel hatch]

Is that where you draw the line 😭

[vestal copper]

akqj10 sflush

[ebon condor]

also why are we using aces

[prisma oak]

It was royal miss typed

[covert tartan]

To get the coolest joker in the game

[rigid mesa]

True but im talking about Retriggering all 5 cards

[lime remnant]

you sure it was a royal?

[calm swallow]

But it's still the same tough
Same planet card is used to update

[molten thicket]

it looks cool idk

[frank grove]

why would that matter though

[mint jetty]

Score more chips good

[ebon condor]

the amount of hypotheticals necessary here is comedic

[frank grove]

wee works just fine with just chad

[vestal copper]

it is but for bs it isnt

[rigid mesa]

Were talking about a joker that doesnt exist mind you

[prisma oak]

The one shot fire on the hand agreed

[molten thicket]

this is like true "potential joker"

[frank grove]

you dont need a 5oak with hack for wee to be any good

[calm swallow]

I see

[drowsy rain]

hypothetical superposition

[lime remnant]

it says royal flush?

[vestal copper]

wow

[lime remnant]

you discarded it?

[prisma oak]

Yes

[lime remnant]

hm

[mint jetty]

That would be baron actually

[prisma oak]

Idk I'll just start a bunch of white stake runs and get one

[mint jetty]

Or showman

[molten thicket]

bro with your superficial hypotheticals EVERYTHING IS GOOD

[ebon condor]

the funniest part is that the joker is really fucking strong still they are just creating weird ass situations where its not even that good?

[lime remnant]

no thats bloodstone

[prisma oak]

I was wondering why I never pulled one

[pastel hatch]

Baron is so baaaaad

[rigid mesa]

Im still traumatized by my double poly baron mime run failing

[mint jetty]

Yes

I know

[calm swallow]

False accusation

[slow iris]

brainstorm specifically requires a royal flush

[lime remnant]

ofc you would fail from allat skipping 😂

[plain briar]

do i take invis and hieroglyph

[mint jetty]

Skip what

[lime remnant]

bro failing with baron mime

[covert tartan]

The heart attack build

[frank grove]

i replied to the wrong person sorry

[rigid mesa]

It was on like black stake in think

[mint jetty]

It failed cause baron is bad

[lime remnant]

yes kill baron

[calm swallow]

So it's not a problem at all

[frank grove]

Did you skip the blinds?

[rigid mesa]

No

[molten thicket]

why are you heiroglyphing at a8

please dont

[rigid mesa]

I remember the run like it was yesterday

[plain briar]

so i just take invis

[calm swallow]

[ebon condor]

fun nand games

[slow iris]

i don't really understand what you mean by that

[rigid mesa]

It was like a year ago

[drowsy rain]

we always go back in time no questions asked

[pastel hatch]

What baron needs to be useful frfr

[molten thicket]

he talm abt a baron mime run like its a fallen soldier 💔

[covert tartan]

Is it the the plant? 0-0

[calm swallow]

They are saying royal flush isn't for bs

[molten thicket]

just move the fuck on twin

[rigid mesa]

I beleive not

[mint jetty]

It has the potential to score a stupid amount of points but good luck getting there, that's why I'm saying it's the "potential joker"

[rigid mesa]

DOUBLE POLY BARONS

[molten thicket]

poly isn't even good on baron mime btw

[lime remnant]

a year passed and still this mf skipping blind 🤣

[molten thicket]

its just worse

[slow iris]

what does talm mean

[pastel hatch]

It's 0.5 of a king

[lime remnant]

talking

[molten thicket]

you can't ecto the damn baron now

[slow iris]

insane

[ebon condor]

yknow speaking of stupid losses i had a run earlier where i got campfire and obelisk in the same shop but missed the blind req by 4000 bc i forgot to move campfire for the first hand

[molten thicket]

happy?

[pastel hatch]

Assuming no red seal or brainstorm or blueprint

[molten thicket]

talking

[ebon condor]

i was actually so pissed i nearly hit the obelisk escape velocity

[drowsy rain]

Actually, we’re assuming we have three retriggers

[calm swallow]

Ohh still hate throw back?

[lime remnant]

i lost because i thought i can sustain camp 🗿

[slow iris]

always will

[calm swallow]

[slow iris]

even if throwback gets a rework i will continue to hate on it for its horrible past

[pastel hatch]

How can you hate an 1x joker

[calm swallow]

That's too harsh

[ebon condor]

throwback should make skipping good

[mint jetty]

I lost a run cause i forgot i had bus and thought i had green joker, only realized when I died

[lime remnant]

does less than splash 🤣

[slow iris]

it is perfectly justified actually

[pastel hatch]

Splash is great

[lime remnant]

situational

[molten thicket]

throwback should make skipping viable

[glad aspen]

Rework throwback to be .5 and ill be justified for ever loving it

[ebon condor]

splash sucks ass its like bottom 20 jokers

[slow iris]

nop

[frank grove]

I still think even at .5 it'll still suck

[mint jetty]

More like rework skip tags

[pastel hatch]

Ofc it's a common, non econ joker

[lime remnant]

throwback should just give you everything in the game 🔥

[ebon condor]

didnt it used to be .5

like in one of the demos

[lime remnant]

id rather use jimbo then

[frank grove]

you miss so much value from skipping blinds its almost never worth it

[drowsy rain]

can’t believe there’s still splash hate in 2026

splashfc

[mint jetty]

What does a white stake run prove

[calm swallow]

Yeah but who cares if you can play again and again?

[pastel hatch]

That's just cause you don't know how good splash is

[covert tartan]

+4 mult

[covert tartan]

Peak

[frank grove]

some people like winning runs

[ebon condor]

it provides so little value man

[lime remnant]

situational at best 😂

[glad aspen]

Nothing, its just a double throwback run to disgust throwback haters

[ebon condor]

on score is almost never good

[frank grove]

I like splash with seeing double and flowerpot and thats basically it

[pastel hatch]

I feel like I'm getting better at the game

[drowsy rain]

it enables pairs way more than I thought it did

[calm swallow]

You are accusing that people can't win with throwback ?

[pastel hatch]

And not doing gambling

[ebon condor]

its really just a minor econ supplementer

[frank grove]

No, ive won with throwbac

[mint jetty]

Its good with wee

[frank grove]

but winning consistently with it isnt really good?

[ebon condor]

reminds me of another really bad joker actually....

[drowsy rain]

Hold up no way the flower pot defender is also a splash hater 💔🥀

[calm swallow]

There are differences between opinion and fact

[drowsy rain]

those two are like best buds

[ebon condor]

yeah its kinda strange tbf

[solid coral]

Early dna or spectral pack?

[ebon condor]

but my fp love comes from straights, not pairs

[glad aspen]

(Theres a throwback hiding behind the win screen)

[lime remnant]

skip everything 🔥

[pastel hatch]

I don't think I ever pick early DNA unless you have a good card to copy

[ebon condor]

ive talked about before about why fp + splash is kinda fake but that argument rests upon splash being a bad joker and if you dont agree with that premise i cant really argue it

[frank grove]

This is one of throwback wins, for example, you can totally win with it, but some people like winning consistantly, or doing win streaks and things

[solid coral]

That’s what I was thinking but it always hurts skipping it

[slow iris]

now do on gold stake

[glad aspen]

This is beautiful

[calm swallow]

Well... You can maintain your WS with another profile

[covert tartan]

Get the purple and copy it with dna Ig?

[drowsy rain]

I find decent value in splash and considering it’s a common I’m very happy to find useful splashes

[mint jetty]

What's your guilty pleasure joker? Mine is stone joker

[glad aspen]

Havent unlocked it on this account yet but trust i will be doing as soon as i unlock invisible and the family

[lime remnant]

whats a guilty pressure

[ebon condor]

i am curious, what is this supposed value

[rigid mesa]

When can I expect an apology for the hate

[frank grove]

gold seals with splash are pretty goated actually

[calm swallow]

[ebon condor]

bc im willing to listen perhaps i havent seen the light

[frank grove]

but then you could just make them stone

[mint jetty]

Something you like but you know its shit

[lime remnant]

only 600k bro that's sad

[drowsy rain]

jokers that require certain cards to be played, enchancements, gold seals, suit jokers

[cloud minnow]

Do you want this?

[covert tartan]

+15 mult +15 mult frfr

[calm swallow]

[ebon condor]

yeah but most of those arent really good anyways?

[molten thicket]

800k at plasma red on a6 is sad i pity you my brother

[glad aspen]

No

[ebon condor]

and the ones that are work fine without splash

[pastel hatch]

"throwback is good"

Looks inside
Does less than the steel cards

[lime remnant]

the guy was skipping blinds no wonder

[drowsy rain]

I love gold seals

[ebon condor]

gold seals are cool but like

[calm swallow]

I'll suck your blood...

[drowsy rain]

or like golden ticket

[rigid mesa]

2.5x

[frank grove]

you can just make gold seal rocks instead

[molten thicket]

wow

[pastel hatch]

Yeah less than steel

[molten thicket]

so impactful

[glad aspen]

Oh wait people think im arguing that throwback is good?

[lime remnant]

steel card mime already does more lmao

[ebon condor]

youre rarely going to be in a situation where you have so many gold seals that you cant play them all with pairs

[pastel hatch]

Well similar I guess

[ebon condor]

like that never happens

[mint jetty]

Are you being serious?

[lime remnant]

yes he js keeps skipping

[slow iris]

i had splash with seeing double and flowerpot one time

[frank grove]

wow such a good joker i cant wait to play 8 rounds of the possible 24 of my run 🙂

[slow iris]

it was cool because i actually got to use splash

[molten thicket]

WAIT WHAT 2.5X IS LIKE 6 SKIPS

[lime remnant]

only 600k plasma red stake thats sad

[slow iris]

never happening ever again

[covert tartan]

0-0

[rigid mesa]

Do i skip

[lime remnant]

yeah i think you should skip

[drowsy rain]

It also is just really fun finding value in cards most people don’t like

[molten thicket]

yeaaaa just keep skipping

[lime remnant]

speed up your downfall

[pastel hatch]

Cause steel cards in your hand there do 1.5^4 which is definitely very close to 2.5

[ebon condor]

i could see an argument for it helping activate pairs in the early game, but thats really not common either

[calm swallow]

Fact

[ebon condor]

i mean thats so fair look at my name lol

[frank grove]

i hope it rolls into plant

[covert tartan]

Bro I do one skip and the run turn into a graveyard T-T

[rigid mesa]

Hook might kill my run is all so

[vestal copper]

why skip when you can just hold r

[ebon condor]

i just dont think its good

[rigid mesa]

Who hurt you

Who filled your heart

[calm swallow]

[rigid mesa]

With such

[ebon condor]

but hey if you can make it work more power to you

[rigid mesa]

Pain

Such malice

[ebon condor]

im not gonna tell you how to play the game

[molten thicket]

damn if the fucking HOOK can kill you then just hold r dude

[rigid mesa]

That you would wish that upon another human

[lime remnant]

its you with these ragebaits honestly

[covert tartan]

+15 mult +15 mult +15 mult

[molten thicket]

at ANTE 7 TOO

[rigid mesa]

Im not sure if it could im just worried

[frank grove]

people who say that skipping in balatro is the "best way to play the game"

[rigid mesa]

All I said is not skipping is just wrong

[drowsy rain]

Same to you flower pot enjoyer

[rigid mesa]

Why make it a mechanic if it only hurts the player

[pastel hatch]

You can get some value off of luckies, gold seals, mult/chip cards etc when you don't get your draw early game

It's pretty nice

[frank grove]

idk ask thunk

[ebon condor]

i skip once in every like maybe 20 runs?

[frank grove]

but it does actively hurt runs more than it helps them

[calm swallow]

[molten thicket]

and it is wrong to not skip always

[rigid mesa]

I haven't even been baiting

[vestal copper]

thats even worse

[lime remnant]

youve been doing it for an hour or more now you are just too naive to know it

[molten thicket]

but you skip only when you know what you're doing

[frank grove]

if they didnt skip a ton before they would've seen more arcana packs and had more than 6 queens in their 60 card deck and would be able to just cruise through hook

[lime remnant]

waiting for sunnyette redemption arc in 2028

[calm swallow]

I'm sure you don't mean it
You just simply look like one

[mint jetty]

I'm ok with you playing the game in your own way, as long as you don't try to prove to everyone else that you're correct, you look like a conspiracy theorist

[rigid mesa]

What have i said that even comes off a sragebait you can see my run and how im actively playing it the way im describing stuff

[molten thicket]

evil sunnyette: "skipping is wrong never skip i HATE throwback"

[drowsy rain]

I’m not creative enough to think of how it would work, but I think it would be cool if throwback got totally reworked and you could somehow still see shops after skips

[mint jetty]

The run you're showing is literally proving that you are wrong

[pastel hatch]

Wait I just realised that this is red stake plasma

That's funny

[calm swallow]

Everyone is still trying to be toxic on interest

[covert tartan]

And in Anaglyph Deck negative tag cuz there's nothing more cool than a lot of jokers :>

[calm swallow]

Definitely

[lime remnant]

500 jokers

[molten thicket]

no on anaglyph you save your double tags until it goes from the bottom to the top of your screen

[lime remnant]

insae swash value with gift card

[rigid mesa]

My run is really coming together

[calm swallow]

[drowsy rain]

The amount of jokers I expect to be added if the update is delayed until 2027

[calm swallow]

local thunk is calling

[lime remnant]

if you didnt skip you would have scored like 2p0 mil in a hand mind you

[mental spire]

Sell perkeo nd get the mime ?

[rigid mesa]

I skipped and scored 85 mil

[pastel hatch]

Actually, could you drop the seed when you're done?

[lime remnant]

i meant 200 🤣

[rigid mesa]

Ofc

[frank grove]

on plasma red

[covert tartan]

Samsung phone call sound with a low quality video

[rigid mesa]

Mhm

[molten thicket]

what did throwback contribute to this score btw

[calm swallow]

Go!!!!

[calm swallow]

[rigid mesa]

X3 on like 12k I think

[ebon condor]

you skipped EIGHT blinds???

[mint jetty]

Lmao

[molten thicket]

HE SKIPPED 8 BLINDS

[rigid mesa]

Localthunk isn't a reliable source

[lime remnant]

even localthunk discouraging skipping 🔥

[ebon condor]

oh good lort

[lime remnant]

ok bro

[calm swallow]

Local thunk haven't beat gold stake btw

[lime remnant]

actual bait

[frank grove]

He has c++ ???

[slow iris]

he has done c++

[molten thicket]

localthunk has gotten c++ btw

[drowsy rain]

wait that’s actually really sad that you need to skip 8 times to match a single card sharp

[mint jetty]

There is no way you can get that many enhanced queens skiping 8 blinds

[calm swallow]

Jk

[lime remnant]

???

[molten thicket]

bars

[frank grove]

Like he has 100%ed the game

[calm swallow]

Bro isn't that obvious

[rigid mesa]

If youre not getting this many skipping 8 blinds thats a skill issue

[covert tartan]

0-0 >-< 0-0

[rigid mesa]

Theres so much money for chariots and deaths

[lime remnant]

drop the seed bro i wanna see

[covert tartan]

One piece is so long I start watching it like it's the news

[lime remnant]

ima js score e

[rigid mesa]

Alr gotta win rq

[frank grove]

also he sold a baron earlier btw i think

[slow iris]

56+1 bans from the honeypot damn

[mint jetty]

Yea, I'm getting more cause i'm not skipping

[calm swallow]

Let's move to #🃏・off-topic

[covert tartan]

K

[latent yew]

Yay

[lime remnant]

holy ante 1 pull

[devout cove]

guys whats the chance of soul appearing in spectral pack

[frank grove]

.3%

[devout cove]

oh

[mint jetty]

Its the same chance in spectrals and arcana packs i believe

[mint jetty]

Just win i guess

[latent yew]

Thought it was like 0.5

Soul

[frank grove]

its 3/1000

[drowsy rain]

it’s 1 in 2

because

it either happens

[frank grove]

and rolled for each card in a spec and arcana pack

[drowsy rain]

or it doesn’t

[vestal copper]

lmao?

[calm swallow]

Mod?

[latent yew]

Think its tribule

[vestal copper]

aura mod for joker animations

[calm swallow]

Rick

[mint jetty]

Actually it's 100%

You just need to open infinite arcana packs

[latent yew]

Hope u get merry andr

[calm swallow]

I see

[median grove]

is fibonacci better with 4oak or full house?

[frank grove]

4oak

[ebon condor]

4oak prob

[drowsy rain]

in conclusion don’t eat at arby’s

[median grove]

really?

why?

[ebon condor]

just a better hand overall

[frank grove]

full house scaling blows ass

[median grove]

but full house is more cards

[mint jetty]

Probably never will, don't live in US

[ebon condor]

its harder to fix for, has worse planet scaling, and has fewer synergies

[drowsy rain]

why is earth so ahh

[median grove]

then are aces the best card to duplicate

[ebon condor]

full house is just not really a good hand

[drowsy rain]

it’s a harder hand than straights

[median grove]

okey thanks

[frank grove]

i usually go for something hackable

[drowsy rain]

it should be rewarded

[calm swallow]

House always win

[frank grove]

like 5s

[ebon condor]

depends on your other jokers but it can be

[median grove]

why?

[mint jetty]

5s or 2s

[median grove]

how come not aces?

[ebon condor]

but yeah id say go for a hack card

[frank grove]

theres no good retrigger card for aces bar chad

[mint jetty]

Aces dont have much sinergies

[drowsy rain]

I don’t think there’s a single joker that says “yeah you should play a full house”

[frank grove]

and 2/5 have better stuff like todd, wee and hack

[humble gulch]

@fringe nebula It is really possible, I just wasn't very lucky and couldn't find burglar

[median grove]

and even steven?

but i guess thats worse with fibonacci

[frank grove]

with fib steven isnt worth probably

[calm swallow]

Then no naneinf

[ebon condor]

theres just no jokers that encourage it, even implicitly

[pastel hatch]

I just got death fool from an emperor wtf

[median grove]

okay thanks

[mint jetty]

Best i can give you is flower pot

[ebon condor]

discarding for fp with full houses is ass

[frank grove]

flower pot is best with two pair, straights and 4oak which are plain better hands in everyway

[rigid mesa]

Which do i sell

[ebon condor]

at least on an unfixed deck

[fringe nebula]

you're looking for burglar once you have reached ante 25 tho?????????????

[calm swallow]

High card is most convenient for every run

[frank grove]

throwback

[rigid mesa]

X3 throwback

[mint jetty]

Throwback

[drowsy rain]

The dude on the right

[median grove]

but isnt hack the only synergy for 2s and 5s?

[ebon condor]

2s have wee

[rigid mesa]

If i sell throwback and lose you will face consequences for leading me down the oath if the left hand

[mint jetty]

Wee joker

[humble gulch]

I mean, no antimatter neither ecto

[ebon condor]

but also yeah, hack is just good

[drowsy rain]

ok so don’t ask then

[mint jetty]

And idk i just like 5s

[frank grove]

if you lose red stake plasma with that many steel cards i would be shocked

[ebon condor]

and aces only really have scholar, which only works well if youre low on chips so

[humble gulch]

I had to do it on ante 23

[ebon condor]

and with good 4oak scaling you should be good on that front

[mint jetty]

If throwback is so important then why are you copying mime instead?

[humble gulch]

And it seems like 4000 dollars wasn't enough

[rigid mesa]

I told you guys that throwback was doing stuff

[drowsy rain]

I mean I guesssss fib

[median grove]

oh true i dont think i unlocked wee joker

[median grove]

yes im playing fib

[ebon condor]

this entire discussion is abt fib lol

[rigid mesa]

With vs without throwback

[frank grove]

you just have less steel in your hand there??

[mint jetty]

Bro why are your steel queens on the left???? Move them

[median grove]

and odd todd too i guess

[pastel hatch]

And 2 more steel cards

[frank grove]

Count the steel cards guys

[drowsy rain]

my bad

[frank grove]

i wonder if 3 triggers of 2 more steel cards is more than a 3x 🤔

[pastel hatch]

Whaaa

Noway

[rigid mesa]

Who was asking for the seed

[median grove]

oh and i guess rtb can be considered a synergy with fib?

or nah?

[pastel hatch]

I was

[frank grove]

kinda? but fib is probably enough mult usually

[ebon condor]

on-score and flat +mult dont really work super well together, but if you really need it they can work

[rigid mesa]

I84G24CK

[ebon condor]

its like having 2 scaling +multers

[frank grove]

yeah

[ebon condor]

it can be good, but usually not necessary

[median grove]

wait i dont understand the difference...

[mint jetty]

@lime remnant

[frank grove]

yeah if you're scared of pillar you could take it as backup

[rigid mesa]

You have to skip to buy the blueprint btw

[median grove]

why would they not work well together?

and whats the difference? does one get affected by xmult and the other doesnt?

and wouldnt that make rtb better than fib?

[ebon condor]

they just have different goals

if youre playing for fib, you want retriggers and glass, etc.

with bus you want flat chips and xmult

[frank grove]

yeah they just do different things, and they trigger at different times, steel cards wont do anything with rtb but will with fib for example

[mint jetty]

Fib can work as a bus enabler early on

[humble gulch]

I don't like fib

[mint jetty]

That's it

[median grove]

is it because rtb triggers AFTER xmult?

[humble gulch]

Bus is enabled already, what do you mean

[mint jetty]

Like you play low scoring hands to scale the bus and finish with fib

[median grove]

but fib triggers before?

like what is the mechanical difference

[ebon condor]

after on score xmult (so like glass, steel, bloodstone, baron, photograph, etc.)

[median grove]

so yes

[frank grove]

Kinda

[median grove]

im confused

[frank grove]

other x mult works well with rtb

[mint jetty]

What i mean is you can play low scoring hands to ensure the scaling and finish up with a fib hand

[humble gulch]

Oh no, you lost 4 to 8 mult!

[frank grove]

like hologram, cav, lucky cat

[vestal copper]

this is a run

[median grove]

im confused!

[ebon condor]

i feel like we need a visual for this

or hold on

ok

[frank grove]

Does anyone have the order doc?

[mint jetty]

Tf is red card doing bro

[long tapir]

will i make it to ante 8

[ebon condor]

lets say you have fib, bloodstone, bus, and card sharp

[humble gulch]

Enhancements, jokers, edition

[median grove]

i know that fib is better with retriggers, because all of the mults get multiplied

[vestal copper]

something 😭

[ebon condor]

you know what those all do right?

[median grove]

but i assume that i also want xmult with fib?

so wouldnt that xmult still be good for rtb

isnt xmult always necessary

[rigid mesa]

Maybe I was wrong about throwback

[vestal copper]

maybe keeping it is throwing idk

[mint jetty]

That red card is being as good as bro's throwback

[median grove]

i dont know blood stone

[frank grove]

some types of x mult work well with rtb like cav but bloodstone triggers as the cards get scored like fib does and then rtb triggers

[gentle basalt]

Not true
Non-violet vessel is doable to beat without x mult, but good normal scaling

[gentle basalt]

0.5 chance to get 1.5x per heart

[median grove]

i dont know what that means

[ebon condor]

it can give x1.5 when a heart is scored

[median grove]

okay so its like ancient joker

[frank grove]

Yes

[ebon condor]

yeah

[median grove]

okay i see

[mint jetty]

Yes but rng

[ebon condor]

so lets say you play a heart with fib

[slow iris]

ancient joker if it was bad

[ebon condor]

so the fib will trigger and give its +8

then bloodstone, multiplying that 8 (and any hand levels) by x1.5

[mint jetty]

Ancient joker if it only chooses the suit disabled by the current boss

[ebon condor]

but the bus comes in afterwards, giving lets say +30

but it doesnt get multiplied by the bloodstone

and then card sharp multiplies it all by x3

[median grove]

i see because its not triggered by the cards

[humble gulch]

No one will convince me of not taking Bloodstone

[frank grove]

Yeah

[ebon condor]

the bloodstone is only really boosting the value of the fib, but the card sharp is boosting everything

which is why non-on-score xmult jokers are so valuable

[sage wigeon]

any1 know where the balatro save files are located?

[pastel hatch]

you did not need to skip to get bp

[ebon condor]

but on-score xmult can still be strong if you have jokers like fib which can get value from it

does that make sense?

[vestal copper]

nat neg dusk wow

[median grove]

yeah that makes sense

but if i have something like cavendish

[sage wigeon]

much love

[median grove]

isnt it still good with rtb, and fib?

[ebon condor]

yes

[frank grove]

Yeah

[median grove]

because it multiplies both?

[frank grove]

Yes

[ebon condor]

correct

[median grove]

but i dont see why that makes rtb bad with fib

[frank grove]

Whilst something like glass would only trigger on the mult from fib not from bus

[median grove]

it seems like if you have both and xmult thats a pretty strong run

but i guess retriggers would be more valuable

[molten thicket]

swag

[ebon condor]

after score xmult like cav isnt really the main factor here, the difference is that fib wants that on-score xmult, like glass cards, or bloodstone, or ancient joker

[frank grove]

cause you want things like glass and retriggers and steel for fib to work well and rtb doesnt really work with that its just different ways to get score

[molten thicket]

the "any seed can reach e16" statement is starting to make a lot of sense for me

[mint jetty]

Because bus requires you to play a lot of hands to scale enough, and fib is for oneshotting blinds

[ebon condor]

so if you try to go for that, the bus isnt getting any value from it and is kinda just deadweight

[median grove]

i guess

but are there 5 different retrigger jokers that you need?

i feel like you can have one slot for rtb

but i guess if you have blueprint

thats better

[frank grove]

its not a bad idea to get rtb if you have the space and money

[ebon condor]

well there are econ and value generating jokers that are likely going to be better

[median grove]

but also its an eternal rtb

so i dont think i want it

true

[frank grove]

yeah eternal rtb with fib i wouldnt

[mint jetty]

As eternal hell nah

[lost vault]

is that the real localcreme

[ebon condor]

such as dna, yes, but also things like hallucination or space joker

[median grove]

yeah its me localcreme

[lost vault]

whens the next cremelatro update

[ebon condor]

this implies that the game is called thunklatro

[lost vault]

..is it not?

[mint jetty]

It implies the game's creator is called localba

[lost vault]

latro

[humble gulch]

I like my kreme krispy

[ebon condor]

anyways hopefully all this makes sense

[lost vault]

i like my creme cremey

[frank grove]

there is a good doc explaining joker/card order and when things trigger but i forgot where it is

[median grove]

im local creme

next update is on passover

[mint jetty]

Local crime

[ebon condor]

i wanna say that i do appreciate your desire to learn and understand this game

[median grove]

yeah because i want to be better

[mint jetty]

Love to see that too

[median grove]

thanks everyone

[ebon condor]

np

[median grove]

i see

[mint jetty]

As someone who got c++ twice I still have much to learn

[lime remnant]

super pairslop

[humble gulch]

That's nothing

[lost vault]

save data for the game localthunk balatro

[humble gulch]

Win with five sly jokers

[slow iris]

LocalThunk Balatro

[lost vault]

my favorite game

localthunk balatro

[lime remnant]

ok bro ig

[humble gulch]

Flusly five

[molten thicket]

handsizemaxxing (forgot to bean crimson)

[mint jetty]

Cartomancer check

[long tapir]

massive synregy right here

[long tapir]

which game is this

[molten thicket]

cheap knockoff

[long tapir]

get the real one man

trust

[cloud minnow]

Do you want this?

[long tapir]

seeing chinesse letters in a game reminds of pvz idk why

[long tapir]

get it

[cloud minnow]

Which one should be replaced?

[molten thicket]

uhh

show deck

prob not

[frank grove]

it looks like base checkered

[rigid mesa]

I did this to myself

Look at my tags

[humble gulch]

I'm going to spam pair in my dream

[fringe nebula]

pvz playerbase in china is massive

[humble gulch]

[long tapir]

every day start with pair then 3 of a kind then 4 of kind straight abd fkush

dont always do flush

flushaholic

[slow iris]

Flush House

[molten thicket]

hm don't know if i should throw dna or not

[long tapir]

tbh i am a full house player

[molten thicket]

wanna find trading card soon

[humble gulch]

I don't like it

[frank grove]

its early enough you probably can

[cloud minnow]

Which one should be replaced?

[long tapir]

ramen

[molten thicket]

yea

[molten thicket]

no what

[long tapir]

the purple thingy

[sullen aspen]

its ante 11 why are u going full steel

[long tapir]

idk what deck you trying to get

[sullen aspen]

🫩

[molten thicket]

i have rebate

plus idh baron

[mint jetty]

What's the move here?

[long tapir]

whats your 2nd most played poker hand?

[sullen aspen]

rebate can only take u so far with ur deck

[mint jetty]

Lvl 5 high card 21 on super nova

[molten thicket]

yeah ik

[mint jetty]

10 on pais

[frank grove]

if banana survives you should be okay?

[long tapir]

try to get in 3 diffrent hands

[molten thicket]

but golds cut my score a lot and im not taking chances

[long tapir]

not all heroes wear capes

[mint jetty]

Should i take uranus for the boss?

[vernal breach]

Pray

[vestal copper]

whatever this rigged run is

[long tapir]

yes brother

[frank grove]

with stuntman you probably dont need it, i would take the hc if you're already playing hc

[lime remnant]

im crine

[mint jetty]

K

[lime remnant]

throwback 🤔

j

[vestal copper]

im on black gold chat 🫡

[molten thicket]

throwbackkk

[long tapir]

gotta flex my art from yesterday

[mint jetty]

Saved

[molten thicket]

holy FUCK that wa so risky

forgot to sell everything

[frank grove]

😭

[fringe nebula]

good luck, and may the rng god gives you riff raff from first shop buffoon pack

[vestal copper]

thanks

[humble gulch]

I'd love to do that kind of Balatro versus where like, same seed, deck of choose, whoever wins increases the difficulty and so

[fringe nebula]

ante 8 highscore challenge between 2 players in a seeded gold stake black deck run

[frank grove]

do you have to win the run?

[noble mango]

i think black deck tier list is far different from plasma deck tierlist

[humble gulch]

I mean, it would start at white

[humble gulch]

If someone loses no

[frank grove]

Its a high score challenge right?

[humble gulch]

Yeah

[frank grove]

its glass retrigger time

[pastel hatch]

@rigid mesa 💀

[rigid mesa]

Im aware

[humble gulch]

Cheap multiplayer cuz I can't mod

[rigid mesa]

I skipped it

[digital pewter]

we love a good chicot

[pastel hatch]

yorick, pretty sad on plasma

[fringe nebula]

how about starting on gold stake but with a strong deck like blue

[rigid mesa]

Good thing I didnt take it then

[pastel hatch]

still much better than throwback

[rigid mesa]

I sold throwback

[frank grove]

at ante 8 boss for leaf 😭

[noble mango]

tip for black stake black deck?

[humble gulch]

It would be fun if we have different decks