🕹・game-discussion

[umbral sapphire]

825uvge5,i was playing on yellow deck blue stake

[cloud sinew]

:(

i drew two 4oaks but not a single two pair

[simple jacinth]

early game, you might want a scaler like supernova or bus

[rancid sinew]

How about something like popcorn? It gives a big bonus that decays

[cloud sinew]

very good early yeah

[unreal topaz]

also flat mult like mystic summit or abstract generate money

[simple jacinth]

exactly, there's no easy answer

[unreal topaz]

any joker that gives you money/value is probably important

[simple jacinth]

-# also I love this shark character

[unreal topaz]

-# want the artist?

[simple jacinth]

-# yes please!

[patent sail]

pretend this is written in small text

[signal brook]

Game over by 0 hand size

[unreal topaz]

-# hhonchkrow234 on twitter

[simple jacinth]

-# pretend this is written in regular size text

[tiny temple]

Is it just a sign of me sucking that the wall ends my run more than anything else?

[simple jacinth]

Not necessarily, but I would say it does signal that you need to prepare for those better - always check the blind list after you beat a boss

[vestal copper]

well your build wasnt good enough

[simple jacinth]

the wall or vessel usually signals that you need to really dig for something that's gonna make a wild difference to your scoring

often that's xmult and/or chips

[tiny temple]

Would you go entirely broke to reroll for it?

That was maybe my mistake not to

[simple jacinth]

If you know you're not scoring enough to beat it anyway, then I would say yes

And the advantage you get from that is that you're probably fine for the next two blinds at least, you don't need to spend in shop to make that happen

[tiny temple]

True

[unreal topaz]

it's one of the tougher ones, it isn't as much of a killer as violet vessel but ante 4 or ante 7 wall is tough

[simple jacinth]

Also remember that you can get a lot of scoring from just cards as well

[unreal topaz]

yeah, dying is expensive

[rancid sinew]

In that case, what's the best starting hand/suit/whatever it's called? Blue gives more survivability via the extra hands, green can get you more money if you play well, and red makes you less "at the mercy of RNG with the discards"

[simple jacinth]

If you're lucky enough to find the holo/foil that bumps your scoring enough to get you by, it might save you money

[unreal topaz]

best deck, i think most ppl who play gold stake prefer yellow deck

myself included

[calm furnace]

blue is the best deck

[simple jacinth]

Again, depends what you're optimising for - if you want to win it's probably yellow or blue

[pale wolf]

they are decks

[simple jacinth]

Personally I play ghost the most if only because spectrals in shop lets you go kinda crazy

hex ankh my beloved

[calm furnace]

ghost is very fun

[unreal topaz]

ghost is fun and one of the stronger ones

[simple jacinth]

ghoat

[calm furnace]

i wouldnt have played balatro after completing if it wasnt for ghost

[unreal topaz]

i play zodiac and abandoned more than ghost tho

[rancid sinew]

What's so good about yellow? Won't green get you more money in the long run? Unless interest scales really well, that is

[calm furnace]

no deck allows for freaky builds as much as ghost

[unreal topaz]

maybe i should play more ghost

[unreal topaz]

zodiac tho

[calm furnace]

it doesnt

[orchid peak]

erratic

[unreal topaz]

depends what you mean by freaky ig

[calm furnace]

zodiac wont allow for 5 copies of eternal rental maddness

[simple jacinth]

You can clear the first ante without spending money, and starting with $10 more means you can make interest more quickly

[unreal topaz]

ah

[pale wolf]

you play with a Deck, Draw cards into your held hand, where you can select and subsequently Play or Discard up to 5 Cards, the makeup of which determines the poker hand being scored

[simple jacinth]

You can get to the interest cap ($25) and your money makes money

[calm furnace]

at the end of the day for gold stake all decks are good but black is harder and plasma is plasma

[pale wolf]

the cards not being played (or discarded) stay Held in Hand

[simple jacinth]

money is what you need to survive, if your build is deficient in scoring from mult or chips or you need to deckfix for better consistency with a joker, then money is your ticket

[unreal topaz]

On green deck you get more money early, but less money later. Yellow deck gives you early money/interest without taking away the interest later, and just being able to take more things in the shop is very powerful to start snowballing

[calm furnace]

im looking forward to more decks than new jokers next update

[tiny temple]

There's an update coming??

[rough spire]

I think I should add hanging chad but not sure if it’s better than card sharp here.

[tiny temple]

Also, curious what y'all's general win rates are on gold stake?

[rancid sinew]

So between blue and yellow, which do you think benefits more in the long run?

[calm furnace]

sell splash

[unreal topaz]

idk, yellow deck its prob like 70%, maybe 85 on a really good day

[orchid peak]

I'm on ante 20 and I did the math that I can't do naninf I just wanna stop

[calm furnace]

its barely doing anything

[unreal topaz]

i used to be better but i'm just kinda out of practice

[calm furnace]

playing optimally all the time is not fun

at least for me

[unreal topaz]

yeah, i need to be in a specific mindset to play optimally

[hardy fable]

I minmax in other games so I can play like shit in other games

[unreal topaz]

usually i just do gold stake deck rotations and look for silly things

[calm furnace]

balatro replaced sudoku for me as my morning routine when pooping

[rough spire]

Oh jeez yeah that’s the obvious play thanks

[calm furnace]

and my brain is usually not the brightest in the morning

today i had scholar and a pair of aces would have won but i discarded them and lost

[mystic bear]

I love Sudoku, I used to make variant's all the time

[rough spire]

So does hanging Chad go last so the other 4 get triggered again?

[calm furnace]

i love anything with numbers and forces you to think slightly in the morning

feels it kickstarts my brain

[unreal topaz]

i don't think that's how chad works, it will do the same thing regardless of where it is there

it should print money with gold seals but you might need smth stronger on ante 11

[ancient gyro]

black deck freak

[ancient gyro]

blue

its very close

[unreal topaz]

yea it benefits more in the long run but earlygame is usually the chokepoint for me

so i find yellow more consistent

[cloud sinew]

Bye space hi obelisk

[ancient gyro]

blue lowers your scoring count per hand requirements

[cloud sinew]

I have luckies and gold seals which is why im keeping chad

[unreal topaz]

black deck is so easy when you fill your joker slots

[cloud sinew]

no it isnt

[unreal topaz]

esp with 0 rentals

[ancient gyro]

yellow has better grace with rentals and a1 grabber

[ancient gyro]

if only

[unreal topaz]

ik

[cloud sinew]

black deck struggling so much in the early game means you need to make more desperation plays

[unreal topaz]

i know, it's the opposite of yellow deck

[ancient gyro]

i prob compare it to checkered or plasma for ante 1-2 play arounds

[patent sail]

would selling piss joker to get runner first shop would be good play

[cloud sinew]

more context is needed

[ancient gyro]

or blue

[strange abyss]

mesothelioma

[ancient gyro]

what is piss joker

[patent sail]

here you go

[cloud sinew]

negative red

[cloud sinew]

oh

[ancient gyro]

oh

[cloud sinew]

thats just goker dawg

[ancient gyro]

how dare you call that piss joker

gok gok

[cloud sinew]

golker

[simple jacinth]

I would sell golden joker for runner

[cloud sinew]

i wouldnt

[oak axle]

I would sell. Runner for golden joker

[ancient gyro]

I would say no

[oak axle]

Golden joker is goated

[simple jacinth]

it's a scaler, you quickly build up survivability, and if you're playing straights then you probably play less hands anyway so you make hand money

[ancient gyro]

mult has slightly higher priority

[simple jacinth]

But I guess golden does build you towards interest cap for ante 1

[ancient gyro]

especially for a1 boss and potential a2 boss hits

[simple jacinth]

It's swings and roundabouts but I think runner is good enough of a scaler and chips are important enough

[ancient gyro]

more options overall

[simple jacinth]

that I wouldn't pass it up

[patent sail]

i played pet sim 99 for a while and people called golden pets piss pets there, i got used to it

[ancient gyro]

the title belongs to neg red card

[simple jacinth]

piss pets? That's reminding me of...was it Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag?

[vocal rose]

left with not that much econ afterwards relying on most hands to win

[simple jacinth]

There's like a character in a game who calls your player character "pisspot" all the time

[patent sail]

so anyway i guess i keep piss joker

[simple jacinth]

I think it's black flag

[ancient gyro]

and potentially dies to hard a2 threats with less rolls for good enough mult

[ancient gyro]

yeah, it's a shame

[patent sail]

i kept him 🎉

[cloud sinew]

17 lucky scores and not a single payout, ~0.7% chance of happening

jesus

[patent sail]

red card we are so winnings

[vocal rose]

gg

[ancient gyro]

immediately rewarded

👅

[simple jacinth]

Oh fuck, it's apparently Bellec from ACV: Unity

fake fan over here

[olive basin]

Maybe if you had more faith.

[simple jacinth]

He just sounds so much like a pirate that I immediately assumed black flag

[patent sail]

rocket

double winnings?

foil rocket even

bye piss joker i guess

[vocal rose]

is the odds of a nat neg legendary just (1/333)^2

[vocal rose]

woah

you cant live with both?

[ancient gyro]

prob can't afford it

[patent sail]

i can actually

[ancient gyro]

without a sacrifice

oh

[patent sail]

yeah jm taking bpth idk

[vocal rose]

you take both

foil for chips and red card for mult 🙂

[patent sail]

7 doller is above 5 doller so its cool and all and we win

[obsidian atlas]

i just fumbled so bad bro

what is the play here (humble 72 heart cards)

[rough spire]

This is way farther than I’ve gotten, it’s scaling great but feel like I need another scaler quick

[obsidian atlas]

the jack joker

wait no mb

[patent sail]

eternal polychrome splash 🗣🗣🗣 instant take

[narrow nova]

Is that modded

[rough spire]

And I feel like I need to trim the deck but I never get those cards

[obsidian atlas]

no

[amber heart]

fuck my chud life

[narrow nova]

Dang didn’t know you could do that much stuff lol so much glass cards

[vocal rose]

could be bull...

[patent sail]

death and cryptid:

and dna i guess

[obsidian atlas]

rebate chooses king, i let brainstorm and blueprint copy it, i discard 5 kings easily, get 15×5 and 3 times that for all the discards i have

[amber heart]

i didnt screenshot it before but it was a suit debuffing blind that debuffed all my kings 😭😭😭😭

[strange abyss]

The plant can smell a baron from 5 antes away

[obsidian atlas]

nah just dna

[narrow nova]

Oh wow

[patent sail]

we all know the real answer 👀👀👀

celestial pack obviously

[ancient gyro]

slightly worse on this deck

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[patent sail]

i hate jokers

[vocal rose]

okay

[ancient gyro]

um what

[narrow nova]

How do u get the different deck and face card looks on mobile?

[rich mauve]

a director's cut a day didn’t keep away...

[vocal rose]

cool!!!!!!!!!!!

[amber heart]

it hurt s.........

[patent sail]

actually? my scale flat mults are eternals

[vocal rose]

holy easy win

but rtb and red card?

[patent sail]

felt scaling today

[vocal rose]

idk about two

[cloud sinew]

RAHHHH 6 new stickers; chad, seltz, groker, flash, blackboard and obelisk

[vocal rose]

holy

[quick cloak]

kill the rock

[patent sail]

only need chips now and we are GAMING

[patent sail]

golden would die to madness anyway so doesnt matter

both died

[obsidian atlas]

balatro players when you use a joker

[ancient gyro]

felt like winning today

[patent sail]

eternal square

run is won

pack it up

[quaint frigate]

If balatro is so good, why isnt there Balatro 2?

[patent sail]

i will make balatro 2

[obsidian atlas]

because it is so good why need balatro 2

[patent sail]

it will have no jokers and we call it poker

[obsidian atlas]

i fumbled this soooo bad man

[ancient gyro]

look what happened to pvz

[quaint frigate]

Right

[silk cobalt]

pvz2 isn't too bad at first... EA just ruined it

[vocal rose]

lol

[ancient gyro]

it didn't need a second game

[quaint frigate]

I remember the time when my dagger joker obliterated my cavendish

[vocal rose]

hmmmmm

this is MORE than my square joker

[quaint frigate]

Since that day i hate dagger

[vocal rose]

but I'd need to skip a round

[ancient gyro]

the urge to forget

[cold temple]

Red Bull x Balatro is crazy

[rancid sinew]

Is splash good? It looks good on paper.

[patent sail]

disable my boss

[patent sail]

situational

[cold temple]

Sometimes

It is in my "B" tier

[clear mulch]

evrrything is situational if you think about it

[ancient gyro]

its what you would call underrated trash

[patent sail]

mail isnt

[vocal rose]

are you fucking serious

[cold temple]

Exept CHICOT

[clear mulch]

burglar

[patent sail]

mail with burglar is what we call "why did you do that"

[clear mulch]

i mean, its situational since you do need discards to use it

[light brook]

how does bro have gold stake if he’s never made it to ante 8

[vocal rose]

unlock all

[calm furnace]

had to sell burnt 🙁

[light brook]

ah gotcha

[clear mulch]

evil,,,,,

[vocal rose]

I've gotten C++ 3 times

im trying to nebula streak

[clear mulch]

unevil,,,

[vocal rose]

funny how you could've sold photo and nothing changes here

[cold temple]

Idk why people says burnt is sooooo good

[patent sail]

to me "situational" is when theres more cases when its gonna be useless/harmful than cases when its gonna do something

mail does something (and that something is really good) in like 99% of cases to me

[vocal rose]

because

it is good

[calm furnace]

only kept it because it carried me

[cold temple]

No, it is MID

[vocal rose]

ok

[calm furnace]

this has to be top 5 bait ever in the history of this server

for most of the run copying photo was my only score

so for its services it stayed alive

[strange abyss]

it's basically a free level every round

[calm furnace]

i should have sold supernova and kept burnt joker

[cold temple]

Yeah, but you have to discard the playing hand

[calm furnace]

?

oh no discarding a pair the end of the world

[oak knot]

It’s busted with pairs specifically, can be kinda yikes on other hands

[calm furnace]

marry me

[strange abyss]

If you're doing a 5 card hand it's bad but for highcard and pair it's really good

[oak knot]

Red card my beloved

[vocal rose]

didnt know pairs were hard to come across

[calm furnace]

i had a run with burnt joker and shortcut today

was fun

until i died because i trusted flower pot

[cold temple]

I get brainstorm while discarting a royal straight using burnt

[strange abyss]

now that's one way to get burnt to work on something that isn't pairs

[patent sail]

so

[vocal rose]

has anyone used burnt joker on flush house

[calm furnace]

i had eternal burnt, eternal shortcut, acrobat, card sharp and 4 fingers.

i sold 4f for flower and died

[strange abyss]

you can never trust that pot

[unreal topaz]

is that a challenge?

i'm down

[vocal rose]

maybe

[patent sail]

son

[calm furnace]

its funny because acrobat + card sharp was getting me like 300k

but i greeded more score

sold 4f

and never triggered pot once

[oak knot]

I’ve had runs where I could play multiple flush houses every round but never got burnt

[calm furnace]

if i just had patience to play last hand i win everything not VV

[strange abyss]

About as reliable as flower pot would ever be

[patent sail]

[unreal topaz]

i can prob do it on zodiac gold

[vocal rose]

I mean

[unreal topaz]

the hardest part is finding burnt

[vocal rose]

wouldn't the obvious one be checkered

well

true

[unreal topaz]

zodiac or abandoned

are the flush house decks

[calm furnace]

burnt on checkered is nice

burnt on anything is nice

tbh

[oak knot]

Abandoned + vagabond. Infinite power!

[calm furnace]

just imagine if discarding summoned a planet card of that hand

so it scales constellation

[unreal topaz]

i mean, have you not played zodiac? it's the tarot deck

[calm furnace]

🥵

[vocal rose]

but I mean a deck thats already fixed

that only requires one strength for a flush ouse

[unreal topaz]

not fixed for flush houses

[vocal rose]

id assume that would be easier

[unreal topaz]

its easy to get suit changers as well

[vocal rose]

no deck is fixed for flush houses

[calm furnace]

erratic and hold R

[strange abyss]

Erratic deck?

[unreal topaz]

death and strength are most of what fixes a deck for flush houses

[vocal rose]

true

[unreal topaz]

you can fix suits easily enough

[oak knot]

Abandoned is flush house goat

[unreal topaz]

hang on

[vocal rose]

on checkered its just strength!

[calm furnace]

the virgin deck fixing vs the chad hold R

[ancient gyro]

lmao

[patent sail]

if you ever feel compelled to buy flower pot from the shop you should hold R and ot will make it free

[vocal rose]

I guess bull wasnt the move

temptation of greed

[clear mulch]

thanks!

[patent sail]

just got omen globe 🔥🔥🔥 cant wait for it to do nothing

[unreal topaz]

why did that take so long to find

[ancient gyro]

slandering squimbo

[unreal topaz]

"no deck is fixed for flush houses"

well maybe none of your decks are

[patent sail]

that aged like milk

[ancient gyro]

i did that on black deck a couple times

only to play hc

[vocal rose]

idk bull is so good...

but I was just impatient

and didnt want to use every hand optimally for scaling

which gets so boring

[serene forge]

yes

I hate Bloodstone

[ancient gyro]

fair enough

[patent sail]

they shoukd add a challenge where you start with eternal negative bloodstone and deck of just hearts to piss off specifically 1 person

[ancient gyro]

we made an entire deck specifically to spite this person

[vocal rose]

whats the challenge

[ancient gyro]

the results

[vocal rose]

I think youd be able to just ignore bloodstone

if you truly wanted to

[ancient gyro]

challenge will be bloodstuh while every other x mult source/🎲 is banned

[patent sail]

the challenge here is that bloodstone will never hit and thats just funny

[vocal rose]

[patent sail]

im against acorn

run is won

[valid dock]

hi guys

first time being here

[patent sail]

horse them

[valid dock]

should i play this deck

[valid dock]

what

wait what

[unreal topaz]

@vocal rose okay so i can almost guarantee i can make flush houses consistently later

[patent sail]

quit horsing around

[valid dock]

stop horsin me

[patent sail]

you will never escape the horse

[marble torrent]

Of all the times to be doing painted deck...

[valid dock]

who's roffle

[marble torrent]

Youtuber, pretty prolific balatro/hearthstone streamer

[valid dock]

i got 79 decks rn

[patent sail]

hearthstone? yeah, we do have a stone of hearts in balatro...

[vocal rose]

yes

[patent sail]

they should add a horse joker

[ancient gyro]

#⚙・modding-general

hmm

[patent sail]

that would be funny i think

[ancient gyro]

we have bloodstuh

[valid dock]

just expressing emotions

got this joker and i aint missing a chance

[ancient gyro]

close enough

[valid dock]

what's bloodstuh

[ancient gyro]

wouldn't you like to know

[valid dock]

i think i would

[patent sail]

oh boy, a nat negative devious joker! i sure hope nothing happens to it when i go into big blind...

[valid dock]

that shi is sure huge

[vocal rose]

bloodchud

[rough spire]

Might be common knowledge but wanted to share

[patent sail]

honestly i can just skip to the boss and sticker it, purple sticker doesnt really matter tho

[rough spire]

Hanging Chad needs to be in first position. I wasn’t sure about that. Hopefully GPT isn’t full of shit again but it makes sense.

[valid dock]

wait there's no vc?

[patent sail]

doesnt matter really?

[deft sandal]

what is my AI cooking 🥀

[valid dock]

or there is but i didnt reach level smth?

[patent sail]

it actually dpesnt matter where chad is 😭

most of the time anyway

until you get bp/brainstorm

[vocal rose]

no it doesnt

[ancient gyro]

gold stickering practice

🗣️

[vocal rose]

PLEASE dont rely on chatgpt like that 😭

[serene forge]

that's silly

[valid dock]

anyways uhhhh

[patent sail]

you got this chat to ask 🗣

[valid dock]

how to win painting deck

[deft sandal]

ah yes, photochad on abandoned

[valid dock]

i need tips

[serene forge]

straights

[patent sail]

play cards, buy jokers

hope that helps

[pale wolf]

woah another kanjikun

[rough spire]

Damn GPT! 😂

[patent sail]

son

im crine

[valid dock]

idk gng i will sure try out

[patent sail]

why gpt

ask this chat 😭

fuck chatgpt, chatbalatro is better

[ancient gyro]

gemini telling me that strawberry has 2 r's 🥀

[rough spire]

Point taken

[patent sail]

it obviously has 4

[rough spire]

So literally put it anywhere

[ancient gyro]

that one is a fraud

[patent sail]

i guess so

unless it has polychrome edition, then it goes after any +mult

[rough spire]

It also told me highest xmult joker needs to be last

[serene forge]

bro

this game just wants me to win so badly huh

[ancient gyro]

omg fotograf

[patent sail]

xmults go after +mults, but it doesnt matter in what order xmults are

3x10 = 10x3

[valid dock]

how bad could it be

[vocal rose]

once again

[serene forge]

my red card is only at +30 because it has so much competition lmfao

[vocal rose]

dont rely on chatgpt

[deft tendon]

i have a question i heard a while back some jokers were getting reworked when is that hapening

[patent sail]

BUT if joker is +mult with poly edition which technically makes it xmult as well, they go in front

[serene forge]

idk

[royal bobcat]

why tf u asking chatgpt for chad placement

[patent sail]

in front of all xmults and behind +mults

[royal bobcat]

chad placement, in fact, often really does not matter

[patent sail]

yes

flower pot will make you instantly lose in 1.1

[royal bobcat]

hope this helps :)

[vocal rose]

when the update comes out

[strange abyss]

Doesn't it already do that?

[royal bobcat]

oh my gaaawwwd seance rework??

[patent sail]

thats baron

flower pot is just pretty and does nothing

[solid garden]

and trib

[patent sail]

easier to make work in ante 8 scenario

[fallen arch]

guys what's the play here?

[patent sail]

1. kill bloodstone

the rest idk

[simple hull]

to win? dont buy it

[neat ore]

I just had a ancient joker build and it picked hearts.... guess what boss I'm up against now

[vocal rose]

get rid of photograph

[neat ore]

I'm so mad rn

[ancient gyro]

idkwym

[frozen tendon]

oh wow, what a pack

[vocal rose]

you could've skipped!

[flint turret]

time to say goodbye to joseph? 🙁

[neat ore]

No no it picked hearts right before the boss blind that debuffs em

[cloud sinew]

Oli

[patent sail]

why dont yall just skip the bosses and go to ante 8 and win

thats so easy

[vocal rose]

like I said, you could've skipped a round

[cloud sinew]

Ancient cant pick the same suit twice in a row which means you can skip if its not going to be debuffed

[fringe nebula]

who is taylor

[patent sail]

swift

[neat ore]

Yeah but... I hate skipping

[serene forge]

easy game

[strange abyss]

goodbye taylor joseph :(

[vocal rose]

you died though

[cloud sinew]

You died because you didnt skip

[neat ore]

Skipping is scary!

[ancient gyro]

i hate dying

[cloud sinew]

not with AJ

[vocal rose]

dying is scary

[pale wolf]

1/3 chance of death is scary

[neat ore]

How was I supposed to know it would pick hearts?

[flint turret]

joseph the joker who gives money

[pale wolf]

?!!?!

[fallen arch]

idk, getting rid of either photo or bloodstone takes my score from hundreds of millions down to millions

[pale wolf]

you trollinnnnnn

[neat ore]

I mean yeah

[ancient gyro]

aj does a better job than throwback in its own field of expertise

[vocal rose]

no not really

[cloud sinew]

You werent, you were supposed to prevent it from hitting hearts entirely

[vocal rose]

bloodstone and oa6 is doing all of the work

[neat ore]

But I'll try again

[unreal topaz]

@vocal rose does this count https://youtu.be/Vch8jBf5IXY?si=1U3_3KUxkefdyy56

[patent sail]

it aint called throwback for nothing

throws you back to ante 1

[vocal rose]

you want invis to hit a copy joker or another bloodstone for more scoring

[neat ore]

I'm never using ancient joker again that's my nee strategy

[patent sail]

horse this person

[cloud sinew]

Thats a bad strategy

[vocal rose]

yes

[vocal rose]

so if you lose with a joker you CANT use it anymore?

thats your strat

[flint turret]

should i get the mime here? if yes, which one do i drop?

[unreal topaz]

apparently finding burnt wasn't hard lol

[patent sail]

nuzlocke 🔥🔥🔥

[vocal rose]

this is amazing

[cloud sinew]

Ancient Joker is peak, but ive just been playing black deck so it sucks ass

[ancient gyro]

i

don't like him

[simple hull]

No? Why would you buy it?

[serene forge]

least broken rebate start

[vocal rose]

show the aj black deck pics

[vocal rose]

okay win

[ancient gyro]

thatll take like 3 minutes 🥀

[unreal topaz]

even more busted on abandoned

[simple hull]

scratch that, but it over business card if you have gold cards

[unreal topaz]

rebate on abandoned is so absurd

[fallen arch]

I mean, not really, and even then there's a chance to hit the oops anyways

[neat ore]

Nah my strategy is I get mad at it for a few games then go back to using it later until I'm not mad

[vocal rose]

why do you have a copy on chad?

[neat ore]

It fine tho I'll come up with something else

[vocal rose]

thats just a skewed calc that favors you

[patent sail]

i have a better strat

gambling 🤑🤑🎰🎰🎲💸💸

[serene forge]

next boss window lmfao

[neat ore]

I'll just... do another baron mime build for the 80th time...

[patent sail]

your greed sickens me

[unreal topaz]

and a holographic

[patent sail]

okayyyyyyy

[serene forge]

rocket is silly but i don't think i need a rocket 😭

[fallen arch]

because copying chad gives higher scoring

[serene forge]

HAHAHA

[frozen tendon]

def ice cream

[cloud sinew]

with photochad, yes, but not with just bloodstone chad

[cold temple]

Cool sticker concept for BB+

[vocal rose]

due to the fact that you have PHOTOCHAD

obviously when you get rid of photograph

you WILL score lower

[ancient gyro]

sock sells for the most

[crisp condor]

what does the meat joker do

[patent sail]

??????

[vocal rose]

but the risk reward is obviously worth

[neat ore]

Ya know I've been watching roffle and he Said skipping is bad and he's a good player sooooo

[patent sail]

?????

[ancient gyro]

no he's not 🗣️

[patent sail]

okay but ante 1 investment tag

[cold temple]

Me when teto

[vocal rose]

the only bad hit is oops all sixes or chad

[cloud sinew]

did he say "skipping is never good" or did he just say its bad

[frozen tendon]

what if it's a negative skip though?

[vocal rose]

im a good player

rtb is ass

[frozen tendon]

think of the max win

[cloud sinew]

Thats one of the worst ones

[patent sail]

GAMBLING 🤑🤑🎰🎰💸🤑💸🎲💸

[vocal rose]

this must mean im correct

[cold temple]

Meat

[slow iris]

what is this

[patent sail]

(its bad)

[ancient gyro]

this chat sucks im gonna go play terraria

[cloud sinew]

Think of the expected value*

[vocal rose]

appealing to authority is a fire fallacy

[vocal rose]

calamity

[ancient gyro]

nah

[vocal rose]

lame

[crisp condor]

the meat joker

[ancient gyro]

got vanilla chores to do with

[cold temple]

A concept I made for Baldi's Basics Plus

[cloud sinew]

Bloodstone

[vocal rose]

bloodstone 😭

[patent sail]

thats the stone of blood

[crisp condor]

it looks like meat

[patent sail]

it does nothing

[cloud sinew]

Thats why its called bloodstone

[patent sail]

most of the time

[cloud sinew]

It looks like blood

[ancient gyro]

double dungeons secret seed just got discovered recently imma play that funny shit

[vocal rose]

I feel like calamity dungeon is just 5 dungeons into one

[cold temple]

I hate bluds

[vocal rose]

because of how big it is

[vocal rose]

meat can be bloody

[patent sail]

can a stone card that has been a face before ruin rtb

[vocal rose]

usually

[vocal rose]

no? I believe it doesnt reset it

[crisp condor]

Mike, rename bloodstone to meat joker

[neat ore]

It's the ONLY good one

[patent sail]

i hope so

[cloud sinew]

Im not gonna unlock petroglyph on my Black Deck C++ profile so that if i ever do take heiro i have a better voucher pool :3

[vocal rose]

it doesnt work with blackboard

[crisp condor]

it's a stupid name

[vocal rose]

so like

[cold temple]

What mike

[vocal rose]

I cant remember off the top of my head

[neat ore]

He Said it's bad and scary besides ante 1 investment tag

[vocal rose]

top up

[slow sky]

is it worth keeping showman around if i already have antimatter

[crisp condor]

are you aware of the game Deltarune?

[vocal rose]

bro get gift card outta there

😭

[neat ore]

What's the top up?

[vocal rose]

creates 2 common jokers

no stickers

[cold temple]

Yeah, but theres like 4 mikes dude

[cloud sinew]

If you have a vampire to the left of bus or you have parei (ofc), otherwise no

[neat ore]

That's a horrible one

[vocal rose]

zenith moment

[vocal rose]

no?

[ancient gyro]

needs to be before vamp in case

[hallow zenith]

Is voucher tag good only on late game?

[cloud sinew]

keep it balatro twin or go to #🃏・off-topic

[vocal rose]

obviously you arent gonna take it late game

[patent sail]

free early game

[neat ore]

Only good time to skip is ante 1 investment tag or with throwback but rarely

[vocal rose]

but theres rarely ANY source that gives non stickered jokers

[fallen arch]

the invis probably isn't worth though since if it copies oops all 6s it's pretty useless and chad is only a little better and if I get rid of oops for a higher chance at a good copy I won't have the 2 in 2 for the bloodstone, and looking at the calculator the best possible outcome is only bringing it up from 283 mil to 313 mil, if it hits chad or oops it goes down significantly, so it's either keeping what I have or hoping I hit the 3 in 5 for a slight increase

[vocal rose]

and top up is one of them

[ancient gyro]

im gonna fillet you some nice balatro sushi

[vocal rose]

you can just also sell chad

[cloud sinew]

Is balatro sushi vegan

[ancient gyro]

sashimi

whatevs

[serene forge]

bro

[ancient gyro]

uh no

[vocal rose]

not true

[patent sail]

sell all jokers and lose

[cloud sinew]

Then i wont eat it

[patent sail]

✅✅✅

[fallen arch]

the chad is negative, so no, I can't sell the chad

[vocal rose]

yes you can

[cloud sinew]

Well you can

[vocal rose]

neg doesnt make chad eternal

[cloud sinew]

zoahl means to raise the odds of a better hit

not to free up a slot

[cold temple]

Who is he?

[cloud sinew]

Joker

[vocal rose]

Jimbo

[patent sail]

john balatro

[ancient gyro]

for like ante 8 gs stuff one of its only niches I can think of is when you're out of joker slots and have the expendable econ and scoring stability to take it

[calm furnace]

the year is 2026 and you are still not venus pilled wtf are you doing?

[cloud sinew]

playing black deck

3oak on black deck is miserable

[vocal rose]

doing photochad on high card

[calm furnace]

also boots is so ass its unreal 😭

[cold temple]

Joker the jimbo

[cloud sinew]

you have rebate dawg

[vocal rose]

theres a nice fortune teller there

oh

[vocal rose]

yes you have rebate

[fallen arch]

well, removing the chad just completely kills the score, so not really a good idea

[vocal rose]

bruh

[vocal rose]

😭

[ancient gyro]

:)

[calm furnace]

eveyrthing is miserable on black

[patent sail]

2 new vouchers this run 🔥🔥 7 left to discover

[vocal rose]

I think you should keep chad

[cloud sinew]

wasnt defending zoahl, just clarifying

[calm furnace]

doesnt make it any less ass

[cloud sinew]

Yes it does

[patent sail]

we ALL know which is last

[calm furnace]

i didnt even need any flat mult

[fallen arch]

yeah ykw I think I'll pass on this invis I'm good

[calm furnace]

venus so good it needs no flat mult

[cloud sinew]

strong econ with an econ heavy joker doesnt make it any less ass???

[serene forge]

I hate Bootstraps

[vocal rose]

you need sock

[patent sail]

i hate balatro

[vocal rose]

then you replace photo

[calm furnace]

what is +16 gonna do to me

when i wanna scale hologram and constellation

[vocal rose]

erm

[ancient gyro]

you plan on keeping it +16 forever 🥀

[calm furnace]

not taking boots there was the right choice

[cold temple]

Based

[cloud sinew]

Thats not boots being ass then, thats you having your +mult sorted. any +mult would be "ass" there

[calm furnace]

spending money to scale hologram does more than any flat mult boots gonna give me

[fallen arch]

kinda been praying for that the whole run lol

[patent sail]

ante 1 aj and 1 dollar short

[calm furnace]

fortune teller was +55 at the end being 2x

[slow sky]

so i know i sell showman for bp/bs but what do i sell when i come across a dna

[calm furnace]

boots would never give me +55 without making my hologram and constellation weaker

[serene forge]

boots is ass tbf

[ancient gyro]

you have an econ generator and hologram is one of the cheaper scaling sources

[calm furnace]

also i did a big mistake of selling certificate for constellation

[patent sail]

game wants me to win huh

[vocal rose]

????

[serene forge]

bro

[oak knot]

Red card gg

[vocal rose]

im taking madness

[patent sail]

me too

[calm furnace]

copying cert would have scaled hologram faster than buying planet packs

[vocal rose]

yes...

[ancient gyro]

who would've known

[fallen arch]

made it into the e's

[calm furnace]

at the end i had hologram at 5.5x and constellation at 5.1x but i bought planet merchant and had blue seals

[cold temple]

Red card its not that good bro

[vocal rose]

stop

[fallen arch]

I love building my whole deck around lucky cards and getting oops

[cold temple]

Yippie

[ancient gyro]

rule 10

[cold temple]

Im just saying facs

[vocal rose]

you arent

[patent sail]

bottom 5 statements of all time

[vocal rose]

and you know you arent

[oak knot]

Wait people actually like red card now what happened since I took a break from here

[cold temple]

Oh fr

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[vocal rose]

we love red card

[oak knot]

Red card ❤️

[cold temple]

Frfr

[serene forge]

no you just dropped in at a time with actual good players in it

for teh most part

[calm furnace]

at ante 4 if i kept cert, and copiedi t with blue print hologram would have been at least at 11x by ante 8 boss

[vocal rose]

in fact its 23rd on my GOLD STAKE ANTE 8 TIERLIST

[shy plank]

holy shop

[ancient gyro]

here is my good players list

oh

[vocal rose]

that I DONT post everyday

[cold temple]

I just skipped the soul to make red card stronger

[vocal rose]

based

[shy plank]

chat what do i do

do i go on a shopping frenzy?

[cold temple]

Based on what?

[vocal rose]

spectral

[calm furnace]

my reasoning for takign constellation is that i didnt wanna dilute the deck, which i guess is also a right play

[vocal rose]

nvm

[calm furnace]

either way blueprint + cav would have won that run alone 😭

[cold temple]

LMAO

[unreal topaz]

yeah red card is very strong

[shy plank]

ouija or sigil?

[calm furnace]

lvl20+ venus + 6x is just free win

[vocal rose]

holy buns 😭

[red thistle]

Based as in good.

[fallen arch]

lemme guess, the reason most of the cards on the bottom are on the bottom is because they're really good the one time they work but are ass in practically every other scenario

[shy plank]

:(

what do i do?

[oak knot]

I agree people used to think it was trash no clue why 💀

[ancient gyro]

nothing

[vocal rose]

neither

[ancient gyro]

old orange stake 🥀

[shy plank]

do i get agate or duo?

[vocal rose]

that or they have actually zero usage case

[calm furnace]

people hate good jokers

[oak knot]

Red card is a Top 5 common guaranteed

[vocal rose]

top 4

[unreal topaz]

well chad is legitimately good

ppl dont hate chad

[calm furnace]

rebate cav red card chad

[fallen arch]

I have a feeling that's referring to throwback

[calm furnace]

because of photochad

[patent sail]

thank you for flower pot placement

[vocal rose]

no

[ancient gyro]

i could use a jack in the box joker that has blue joker scale decay based on the remaining undrawn jacks

[calm furnace]

real ones take chad without photo

[unreal topaz]

yea photo is mid

[shy plank]

chat

[vocal rose]

throwback CAN sometimes be a 1.25x

or 1.5x rarely

[shy plank]

do i take agate or duo?

[vocal rose]

its still ass but seance idol and showman are

[shy plank]

do i go club mode or pair mode

[vocal rose]

ass ass

I guess I should move bloodstone up too

[ancient gyro]

two different ss

[vocal rose]

no I shouldnt

bloodstone is TRASH

[shy plank]

personally i'd put sharp in S

[fallen arch]

that feeling when the arcana pack is so awful that you genuinely pick the wheel

[vocal rose]

I just can't

[unreal topaz]

duo is strong later, and agate is good for survival

[vocal rose]

it has TWO hard counters

[unreal topaz]

you have money for both

[calm furnace]

nah

[vocal rose]

like you will die if you find two certain boss blinds

if card sharp is a big part of your scoring

[ancient gyro]

and has certain joker anti synergy

[unreal topaz]

yeah

[calm furnace]

madness + throwback synergy is unmatched

[unreal topaz]

i take card sharp a lot but it always feels a lil sketch if hes my only xmult

[vocal rose]

other than that and some other things

card sharp is pretty good

just not S tier

its close

[calm furnace]

card sharp is great as long as you dodge the eye and the needle

[fallen arch]

I can't wait for 1.1 so big hand enjoyers like me will have more of a chance on blue and up 😔

[calm furnace]

watch 1.1 make pairs stronger

[oak knot]

Fortune teller above dusk, golden ticket, diamond….

[vocal rose]

I just really like my Rebate-A tier listing

[shy plank]

speed my mom is homeless...

[vocal rose]

yeah

[shy plank]

speed..

[calm furnace]

fortune teller is a good joker

[ancient gyro]

1.1 needs a joker number overhaul to get out of pair meta

[oak knot]

Fortune ass…

[vocal rose]

I can comfortably purple joker above those

[vocal rose]

its honestly NOT that bad

[fallen arch]

it probably will in some way but it'll also make big hands not complete gambling on higher stakes

[oak knot]

Sucks early game, sucks midgame sucks late game

[calm furnace]

idk why FT has this reputation

probably because of Roffle

[patent sail]

never take negative tags

[ancient gyro]

i can understand it's niche

[patent sail]

perishable hallucination on madness build

[oak knot]

But at least it isn’t above red card like I’ve seen many tier lists do 🙂

[patent sail]

free money i guess

[vocal rose]

it takes a few requirements to be usuable

[fallen arch]

if only the first page of jokers didn't exist

[vocal rose]

if it doesn't have absurd stickers, and you have an econ joker whilst being at interest cap

[calm furnace]

you dont take fortune teller early game and scale it to be your scoring joker

thats not how it works

[vocal rose]

you can scale it consistently

[fallen arch]

ok but what if I'm playing anaglyph and have a bunch of money for rerolls and 8 double tags?

[unreal topaz]

bc it scales so damn slow

[calm furnace]

fortune teller is a run winner when you find it mid game and its already scaled

[ancient gyro]

as far as retroactive jokers go, this one is pretty high on the "makes sense as a retroactive" joker

[vocal rose]

I mean

the scaling is VERY slow

[unreal topaz]

it can be good enough but like

[calm furnace]

skill issue

[vocal rose]

in all honestly

[vocal rose]

way more than erosion

[unreal topaz]

you only really get a lot of tarot cards when you start using shop rerolls

[oak knot]

Early game it’s useless
Midgame it’s often very little mult,
Lategame, you rarely want to replace good jokers

[patent sail]

honestly i dont specifically go for it, but if i font have good flat mults and i see it in shop with like +15 ill take it

we are talking about fortune teller, right?

[unreal topaz]

which takes a minute

[ancient gyro]

crops the black stake run I see you

[vocal rose]

yes we are talking about fortune teller

[fallen arch]

I kinda wanna make 2 tierlists where one is how good I find the jokers to be and the other is how much I like using them

[vocal rose]

I mean honestly

spamming tarots isn't a bad choice altogether

[unreal topaz]

yeah, when you can

[oak knot]

It could never match the goat

[vocal rose]

it isnt too hard to when you have interest cap and an econ joker

[patent sail]

carry

[oak knot]

Red card did everything as always 🥱

[dim elk]

well this is a interesting start

[oak knot]

Sad people don’t like flowerpot

It’s super fun (albeit often trash)

[fallen arch]

I prefer playing fun cards over good cards

[vocal rose]

gift card being above rocket is probably a hot take

[unreal topaz]

true, but even then it's still really slow

[oak knot]

Gift card is cracked beyond belief

[unreal topaz]

without vouchers or tarot gen

[calm furnace]

i never have my fortune teller less than +30 by ante 8

unless i have something like red card

[patent sail]

well thats the problem, more often than not its not gonna be useful

[unreal topaz]

wow, +30! huge! (ik it can be good enough but that's my point, 30 is low for a mult scaler)

[south badger]

almost done it with allat

[calm furnace]

not really. gift card can be useful late unlike rocket

[oak knot]

I’ve had it save my gold stake streak before. Will never forget

[fallen arch]

not like I'm a good player or anything but I find them to be pretty equal, insane temperance value vs consistent end of round value

[brisk juniper]

My last gold sticker, finally

[vocal rose]

wow im shocked

[calm furnace]

smeared + ancient

[vocal rose]

people usually undervalue gift card here

[calm furnace]

wow

[cloud sinew]

ty rental superpos, i would not have made it without you

[unreal topaz]

i'd put gift card above mime

[brisk juniper]

Got it right before the finisher blind too, that was lucky as hell

[calm furnace]

gift card making useless tarots and planets generate income is a HUGE W

[unreal topaz]

maybe higher

[vocal rose]

nahhhh

[cloud sinew]

it gave me a bonus, and +1 mult for all hands from swash

[vocal rose]

people always forget this mechanic

[vocal rose]

mime gives insane value generation

[ancient gyro]

🥀

[latent egret]

gift card over mime ins ludicrous

[oak knot]

I really like mime

[cloud sinew]

mime is a lot more specific than gift card

[unreal topaz]

yeah, so does gift card, and it's permanent value

[calm furnace]

buT it ScaLeS sLoW!

[vocal rose]

I mean is it?

[fallen arch]

I'm gonna 3d print gift card once I get red filament for my printer

[unreal topaz]

like midas mask

[vocal rose]

gift card requires you to FIND a temperance

[unreal topaz]

not midas mask levels of busted but yk

[cloud sinew]

No it doesnt

[vocal rose]

unless you're selling jokers and consumables

[patent sail]

red card

[calm furnace]

i take gift card over midas personally

[vocal rose]

woah

[latent egret]

nahhhh

[cloud sinew]

What

[ancient gyro]

meh I don't really need to find a high roll

[vocal rose]

thats crazy

[cloud sinew]

That is deranged

[unreal topaz]

okay slow down there buddy

[ancient gyro]

no you dont

[oak knot]

Midas is just the best Econ uncommon man

[vocal rose]

that one meme where everyone is talking randomly and then everyone says the same thing at the same time

[fallen arch]

when I get home I'll show you the jokers I've printed so far with my limited colours

[cloud sinew]

Midas is one of two jokers you can take as rental eternal on every deck a1

[patent sail]

horse question mark

[calm furnace]

abanonded deck + bus existence makes me prefer gift

[ancient gyro]

minus one

[cloud sinew]

What

[vocal rose]

bruh

[calm furnace]

ancient*

sorry

[cloud sinew]

1/15 decks, one joker

[cloud sinew]

What

[calm furnace]

whatever its called

[ancient gyro]

what are you talking about

[patent sail]

what is he on

[vocal rose]

yeah this is always the case for me as well

[oak knot]

It is called abandoned deck your take was just

[cloud sinew]

you lost us

[calm furnace]

thats assuming i play all 15 decks

[vocal rose]

im honestly considering moving midas mask into my top 10

[latent egret]

the ragebait caught up to him

rip

[vocal rose]

or atleast S+

[vocal rose]

👀

[ancient gyro]

this looks weird

[vocal rose]

👀 👀

[cloud sinew]

Balance discussions are almost never about a specific deck unless youve explicitly stated it to be

[oak knot]

Midas is defo > wee

[calm furnace]

did i say gift card is better?

[oak knot]

You did

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[calm furnace]

then learn to read

i said I

[vocal rose]

you said you'd take gift card over midas

[calm furnace]

i as in me

[fallen arch]

guys, I got the sock

[calm furnace]

i take gift card over midas

i didnt say its better

[oak knot]

Moving the goalpost 🥀

[ancient gyro]

and we're making fun of you for it

[vocal rose]

I mean we're talking about viability right now

😭

[patent sail]

id take 1 million dollars over midas is this a hot take

[oak knot]

I love logical fallacies!

[vocal rose]

same

[cloud sinew]

that means its better, implicitly, unless youre saying you knowingly pick the worse option

[calm furnace]

well gold price is dropping

[icy hollow]

Another nice +5 sticker run lmao

Lvl 36 4oak 🗣️ 🔥

[vocal rose]

fire

[cloud sinew]

?

[calm furnace]

?

[cloud sinew]

what is "gold price"

[icy hollow]

Genuinely imma go back and check

Cus i think im above 5 new stcikers per run avergae right now lol

Per win*

[ancient gyro]

keep the discussion autistic please, no deviation

[vocal rose]

they probably mean the real world currency and value of gold

[unreal topaz]

i wonder why blue seals need a nerf

[ancient gyro]

yeah

[cloud sinew]

AI slop, blocked

[slow sky]

dna instead of a brainstorm?

[distant thunder]

what-

[slow sky]

wrong pic

[vocal rose]

wtf is this search engine 😭

[simple hull]

how you gonna nerf em tho is the thing

[calm furnace]

DDG

[fallen arch]

duckduckgo

[unreal topaz]

idk, not my department

[calm furnace]

which i think its blink under the hood

[simple hull]

real

[vocal rose]

hard question

[oak knot]

I hate AI search so much

[ancient gyro]

rework it into a cryptid self destruct seal or whatever it's called

[vocal rose]

but they do need a nerfing

[pale wolf]

you've never used duckduckgo?

[cloud sinew]

How does that work

[unreal topaz]

azure?

[ancient gyro]

yeah that one

[vocal rose]

never

never even heard of it

[calm furnace]

its not like DDG is niche

[pale wolf]

its good

[drifting gorge]

make them rng to activate

[pale wolf]

uses same stuff as google basically but doesnt track you

[vocal rose]

wb ram usage

[latent egret]

another oops synergy

[pale wolf]

uuh idk about the browser

[simple hull]

but the change has to be universal to all seals i would think

[slow sky]

is it bait

[pale wolf]

i never used it

[vocal rose]

since google uses unreal amounts of ram and opera is

[latent egret]

why ?

[vocal rose]

a tiny bit better

[calm furnace]

i thought it uses bing

[pale wolf]

i just used the search engine

[pale wolf]

maybe tbh

[ancient gyro]

oh

[pale wolf]

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[unreal topaz]

nah blue is by far the most busted and run warping one

[vocal rose]

it doesn't

[simple hull]

in ante 1-8 i agreee