🕹・game-discussion

[gloomy marsh]

the deck fixing is awesome tho

[jagged valve]

It's not that hard

[twin lantern]

harder to form high scoring hands in the early antes and basically same -1 hand loss

[jagged valve]

You just can't do face builds easily

[gloomy marsh]

you get ALL your draws

[twin lantern]

except no joker slot

i see the appeal but im not a fan personally

[tacit quail]

why is it -1 hand

its not

no face cards is not equivalent to that

[shell dagger]

small blind ante 1 is harder but big blind is easier (easier to draw 2 5 card hands)

[twin lantern]

because id always have to play 2 hands to get out of each ante 1 blind

[tacit quail]

full house angle

dont try flush

99988

or 101010

[shell dagger]

yeah there are very few flush oneshots

[twin lantern]

im flush pilled 💔

[tacit quail]

with less cards its literally more chance to fh

[twin lantern]

whats ur least favorite hand to play

[shell dagger]

and abandoned lategame is free bc either you go the 4oak route (1 strength and 2 hung men fully enable 4oak) or the pair route (you always draw the blue seal)

[tacit quail]

3oak

[white zodiac]

there's some fh is and there's more combinations on abandoned while being easier to find than alternative 5 card hands

[tacit quail]

feels like im half assing it

[bright tiger]

Should I take a chance on the Invisible Joker?
Jokers I want copied: 3x Blueprint, 3x Brainstorm, Perkeo
Jokers I would settle for copied: Triboulet, The Idol, Sock and Buskin, Hanging Chad
Jokers I don't want copied but wouldn't likely sell: Negative Golden Ticket, Negative Juggler, Negative Turtle Bean

Other choice is to take my chances on finding Showman and aggressively rolling for a 7th Brainstorm or Blueprint and/or hope that Perkeo making 7 Eris a round can keep up with the antes.

Last, what would I sell? My non-negative jokers are 2 Blueprints, Sock and Buskin, The Idol, and Two Brainstorm.

[white zodiac]

the latter

[tacit quail]

if i have 3oak i have full house or i want 4oak

3oak is just middle

[tiny harbor]

i don't play on steam, how can i see my achievements

[tacit quail]

cause pairs are good and repeatable

[shell dagger]

3oak overshadowed but it’s still pretty viable

i used to think it was > 2 pair wtf

[twin lantern]

honestly yeah

[jolly relic]

so awesome

[ripe iris]

#🃏・off-topic

[gloomy marsh]

flush

so boring

[twin lantern]

😡

[jolly relic]

party pooper

[gloomy marsh]

just mindless discarding

[ripe iris]

at least flush is somewhat consistent

my least favorite is straights

[gloomy marsh]

its a decent hand but its boring

[gloomy marsh]

i love the runner joker

[jolly relic]

me but irl

[gloomy marsh]

i dont like straights either but if i get runner

[jolly relic]

straights are amazing

[gloomy marsh]

im happy to play straights

[jolly relic]

in balatro

[twin lantern]

two pair always been one of my fav hands

[modest spade]

I love straights

[ripe iris]

its probably just because im not familiar with straights but i can rarely draw them consistently

[tiny harbor]

aside in june

[manic talon]

wtf

[fading cobalt]

I hate stuntman

[manic talon]

the shop btw

[twin lantern]

trading card pays for itself

[gloomy marsh]

the scaling is incredible

[ripe iris]

i mean yeah ig their one of the best hands bc of fast scaling

but issue is just that excluding like abandoned deck i find it hard to consistently draw them

[gloomy marsh]

its my most played but not my favorite anymore. it was two pairs then flushes then pairs

[twin lantern]

i have 7000 flushes played

[heady narwhal]

what's todo

[tiny harbor]

hands tier list

[gloomy marsh]

when i found out two pair scaling is mid 😢

[tiny harbor]

lmao

[manic talon]

3oak, easy enough

[jolly relic]

hack so amazing !!

[ripe iris]

i feel like most players hand progression goes somewhere along the lines of flush to 5oak to hc to pairs

[haughty widget]

whatever one I'm not trying to pull

[jolly relic]

what

[modest spade]

Literally

[manic talon]

Then it hits high card LETSGO

[red thistle]

Great chip scaling for the hand size though.

[white zodiac]

not even close

[heady narwhal]

S: pair
A: straight, 3oak, 4oak
B: 2pair, highcard
C: flush, strush, flouse
D: flive
F: 5oak, fullhouse

[gloomy marsh]

You mean like getting extra chips via more cards played?

[ripe iris]

like when people start out its usually flushes but then they start going for 5oaks and flush fives and then they start playing baron mime and then they get into pairs for gold stake

[gloomy marsh]

because the planet card sucks

[ripe iris]

thats what ive generally seen based on my interactions

[white zodiac]

ok 2 pair is not b

[jolly relic]

baron mime is horrible

[shell dagger]

pair -> 2 pair 🙂

[ripe iris]

agreed

[haughty widget]

i'm unironically a high card and full house fan

[gloomy marsh]

highcard in A

[modest spade]

I'm a full house hater

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[heady narwhal]

imo 2pair and high card are better than 3oak et al in a vacuum, but the existence of pairs makes me much less likely to consider them on any given run

[jolly relic]

i still always go for flush five lucky card 2s

[serene forge]

I hate Full Hourse

[heady narwhal]

handtypes that aren't pair are useful when you can't put together a pair build, but 2pair and hc aren't all that likely to help you in that case imo

[tiny harbor]

waaaa

[white zodiac]

the existence of 3 hard decks and on card scoring jokers enable 2 pairs outside of scoring shortage scenarios

[red thistle]

Consider this, while it's slightly harder than pairs to play it's still pretty repeatable and doesn't require much deckfixing to hit consistently. It also can be great with mult jokers due to it's chip scaling.

I feel like an AI chatbot.

[shell dagger]

it’s the punctuation

its

[gloomy marsh]

getting blue seals and gold cards is harder tho. in a gold stake context

[white zodiac]

ai can never match my informal whimsy

[lunar zealot]

We folded like a cheap suit

[heady narwhal]

it does vary based on deck. i might have ghost/zodiac brainrot

[twin lantern]

woah its jmibo

[gloomy marsh]

if you get fibonacci or spare trousers 2 pair is lit but otherwise i dont see an advantage over pairs

[heady narwhal]

hello

[red thistle]

I would usually try to stick some emotes in there to make it less formal than it looks but. This server's sucks.

[lunar zealot]

Pants is largely the only reason two pair is viable

if you don't have pants play pairs

[white zodiac]

better than having streak brainrot (more time invested on harder decks)

[heady narwhal]

my personal most played hands list closely matches this tierlist but ymmv

[lunar zealot]

hehe ymmv

[heady narwhal]

*most used planets

[shell dagger]

plasma imo:
S: 2 pair
A: straight 4oak hc pair
B: 3oak
C: flouse fh
D: flush strush f5
F: 5oak

[heady narwhal]

i tjink most played hands would have highcard as second highest

[red thistle]

Blue seals and gold cards were not mentioned in the message though, it is perfectly fine to just use the shop or celestial packs for hand levels.

[shell dagger]

yes fh > flush

so buns

[white zodiac]

I think my list somewhat reflects poker hand viability for rotating streaks

[gloomy marsh]

what do you mean by being great with mult jokers due to chip scaling? I am not understnading

[white zodiac]

is this specifically on common chip card scoring

[haughty widget]

painted deck pretty

[heady narwhal]

what about arrowhead joker that gets you 1/6 of the way to beating violet vessel!!

[gloomy marsh]

u get 5 extra chips with 2 pair planets vs pair

[red thistle]

Both fill out what the other needs.

[white zodiac]

or it having not shit chip scaling

[shell dagger]

its pretty much just from that and 25 chips planet

[white zodiac]

yeah figures

[shell dagger]

ive tried arrowhead flush a few times but always crawl back to spade 4oaks

[red thistle]

5 chips is huge.

[heady narwhal]

same

[gloomy marsh]

cmon bro dont tell me 5 chips is huge

[shell dagger]

like 3 planets and you’ve already made up -1 scored cards

[gloomy marsh]

in exchange for harder draws

[haughty widget]

full house is goated

[red thistle]

5 chips is so huge that people say pairs are S tier while hc is A.

[white zodiac]

for black deck I find straights and some scalers to be devoid of value long term

[lunar zealot]

No it's because of duo/see2/obelisk

the +5 chips is, while great, just one of the reasons

[gloomy marsh]

via blue seals you can get more planet scaling with pairs

and so many jokers arent legit with 2pair

i love 2 pairs but theyre not good in gold stake

[red thistle]

You just said they're hard to come by in gold stake though.

[gloomy marsh]

i didnt

i dont recall saying that

[white zodiac]

I don't think there leaves a lot of room to fully commit to an x mult build in plasma until your current chip setup is stable enough to shove a second x mult in

and planets

[gloomy marsh]

blue seals arent too hard to pull. i said using blue seals on a 2 pair build is hard

[red thistle]

Maybe i misinterpreted.

[gloomy marsh]

using blue seals on a pair build is easy

[red thistle]

Nerf pairs pls.

[white zodiac]

nerf blue seals

part 4

[gloomy marsh]

maybe yeah. or make higher scale hands more playable

rn its too imbalanced

[red thistle]

Fuck it nerf everything, make the game artificially difficult.

[shell dagger]

blue stake rework should address this

[gloomy marsh]

Hope so.

very curious to see how blue stake gets reworked

gonna completely change the game

[gloomy marsh]

They made challenges for that purpose

[red thistle]

Challenges are piss easy.

[gloomy marsh]

genuinely so painful

man i was suffering on cruelty and golden needle

maybe i suck

[red thistle]

I think i 2nd tried gn.

[fair hatch]

Holy shit I finally unlocked stuntman im so happy

[red thistle]

The only one that actually felt more difficult than the others was jokerless.

[fair hatch]

The build

[white zodiac]

gn, blast off, and jokerless have very inconsistent variables applied in the challenges

[gloomy marsh]

yup im getting cooked on that one rn

its my last challenge

i had this 3oak build where i was scoring 70k per hand and i fumbled SO HARD

[red thistle]

This is the 1st time i see someone trying anything other than 4oak or straights.

[gloomy marsh]

i kept getting 3oak in shop

nonstop 😭

[red thistle]

Maybe the reason it beat my ass was because i tried so hard to force 4oak.

[gloomy marsh]

i havent tried playing straights yet ngl

[wintry ice]

3oak does work if you get a ton of venuses

[gloomy marsh]

just 3oak and 4oak

[wintry ice]

or veni

[red thistle]

Because i just really didn't wanna get fucked by bell.

[shell dagger]

Do jokerless with hc

[gloomy marsh]

Hell nahhhh

[red thistle]

How playable would jokerless be if your deck was erratic.

[gloomy marsh]

much more forsure. it gets some of the early work out of the way

[manic talon]

I LOVE BLOODSTONE GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

been a while since i did duskstone

[gloomy marsh]

if bloostone has 0 haters i am no longer alive

[wintry ice]

true

[haughty widget]

lemmie take a ss of my joker stats

now that ive broken 100 hours

[manic talon]

ok buddy, late to the party

[muted heart]

bloodstone beststone

[wintry ice]

this is quite something

[fiery nymph]

guess what time it is

[manic talon]

yall who hate bloodstone are just all bark and no bite, your hate doesnt amount to anything but text, atleast try being performative

[haughty widget]

i dont take bloodstone bc it reminds me of cain and that makes me sad :(

[sweet bramble]

Thank goodness I can't read

GO MY BLOODSTONE 🫰 🪙

[minor portal]

Thank you for putting this out there, Yorick Strongest Hater.

[lunar zealot]

Why are people so fucking stupid

what does any of this mean

[wintry ice]

okay

[sweet bramble]

Wait hes speaking the truth

[lunar zealot]

We need to ban r/balatro

[lunar zealot]

Just full skip

[sweet bramble]

Except that guy he knows something we dont

[hardy fable]

no, devil on dollar?

[lunar zealot]

no

[minor portal]

guide to what

[manic talon]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[fiery nymph]

why isnt wheel of fortune the best one

[haughty widget]

we are inside of game discussion

[sweet bramble]

I just saw joker soul as disabling the boss blinds and i giggled

[gloomy marsh]

why do you enjoy being disappointed?

[muted heart]

cain?

[wintry ice]

i don't even have to

[lunar zealot]

@serene forge

[wintry ice]

oh isn't this pretty

[lunar zealot]

The guy from supernatural

[haughty widget]

from the bible

[minor portal]

spectral will have wraith blueprint trust

[gloomy marsh]

god tier satire

[haughty widget]

they are right tho

[lunar zealot]

Meet Potential Chatter!

'just wait until i get the run i want after holding R 17 times'
'don't tell me facts with statistical basis like obelisk scaling faster than yorick'
'let people have fun (insert slur here)'

007
0 winstreak
0 facts synthesized and internalized
7 hundred baron runs forced (and lost)

listen to constructive criticism? ❌
'it's my opinion so deal with it' ✅

give me liberty
give me fire
give me plasma deck white stake ante 1 perkeo or i retire

"if" and "when" but never is

[manic talon]

its a link to a specific message

[lunar zealot]

I love r/balatro players so much gang

[haughty widget]

luck is the only edition that matters

[haughty widget]

no you're wrong

[lunar zealot]

what?

what does that mean

[wintry ice]

lucky cards are my favorite edition

[manic talon]

i clicked on it and it jumps to a message i had before

[sweet bramble]

Lucky jokers give more lucks

[haughty widget]

no

[sweet bramble]

Goods for bloodstone builds

[haughty widget]

lucky cards are the best edition bc weeeeeeeeeeeeeee gambling

[manic talon]

eh what the hell ill just post it again

[gloomy marsh]

AMEN

[sweet bramble]

Take magician every time

Take wheel every time

Play bloodstone

[lunar zealot]

oh god the white stakers have crawled out

wonder how long till the pendulum swings back today

[gloomy marsh]

red seal lucky cards 🤤

[lunar zealot]

i dont feel like dealing with this

[haughty widget]

?

[sweet bramble]

"I don't like playing the rng cards, it's too inconsistent"

[manic talon]

"if you dont have hanged man" this person is too idol brained theyre beyond saving

[lunar zealot]

true

[gloomy marsh]

we do NOT need stone cards LOOL

horrible writing

[lunar zealot]

stone cards are good

[round nexus]

Also they're just fun. At the end of the day this is a game and you can just do what's fun even if it isnt good

[sweet bramble]

500 stone cards

[lunar zealot]

Not sure what you're on about

[wintry ice]

shortcut my beloved

[sweet bramble]

okay WHITE STAKER. 😡

[gloomy marsh]

hate em. explain why you like them

[round nexus]

Dont get me wrong, lucky cards are good. But even if they werent good, they're fun

[lunar zealot]

'let people have fun! I like making thought terminating cliches to dismiss any valid argument'

[sweet bramble]

I do a little jig every time the $20 hits

[wintry ice]

chips are good and they filter things for bus and rebate

[lunar zealot]

+50 chips

[haughty widget]

stone cards are good for hc

[wintry ice]

and pairs

[manic talon]

stone cards is half a hanged man if you run idol, how did you not know this

[round nexus]

huh? This might be the most egregious response imaginable

[sweet bramble]

Pros: 50 chips
Cons: You can not eat stone cards

[gloomy marsh]

I have not done any legit i
dol builds

[sweet bramble]

Welcome to balatro cord

[haughty widget]

haha i love my funny card game on my computer

[gloomy marsh]

idk i just finished medusa and i have a bad taste in my mouth

[manic talon]

you can still suck stones

[sweet bramble]

People really do be treaitng this game like league of legends

[gloomy marsh]

it was easy but i just dont like stone cards

[lunar zealot]

Meet Potential Chatter!

'just wait until i get the run i want after holding R 17 times'
'don't tell me facts with statistical basis like obelisk scaling faster than yorick'
'let people have fun (insert slur here)'

007
0 winstreak
0 facts synthesized and internalized
7 hundred baron runs forced (and lost)

listen to constructive criticism? ❌
'it's my opinion so deal with it' ✅

give me liberty
give me fire
give me plasma deck white stake ante 1 perkeo or i retire

"if" and "when" but never is

[sweet bramble]

Hustlers must try?

[manic talon]

vampire

[wintry ice]

?

[lunar zealot]

vampire marble is so funny

[round nexus]

I enjoyed medusa actually. Its rare when you get a good stone card build

[lunar zealot]

unbelievably inefficient

what the hell is x0.1 mult per round

[gloomy marsh]

solid points

[manic talon]

midas vamp if it was dogshit

[lunar zealot]

not hard tbf

vampire has like 2 synergies

[manic talon]

crazy that marble joker shuffles into your deck, like why

[lunar zealot]

midas and like

Rebate

[white zodiac]

any tarot gen

[gloomy marsh]

probably. i religiously play pairs so i havent gotten to experience it yet

[manic talon]

every tarot gen is a vamp synergy

[lunar zealot]

[haughty widget]

i mean it works on pairs too

[wintry ice]

add midas and you have jonathan jones' wacky travel

[haughty widget]

just less

[wintry ice]

also this is good

[sweet bramble]

I wanna get good at straights because runner is a fun card

[round nexus]

The shuffling doesnt matter lol, the deck gets shuffled anyway?

[lunar zealot]

ewwwwww supernova

[gloomy marsh]

i rarely ever have a moment where ill take the tarot for it though

[wintry ice]

you can still fit up to 3 stone cards with them

[gloomy marsh]

theres almost always a better one

[lunar zealot]

unironically i'd choose half here because nova sucks

[wintry ice]

tee hee

[white zodiac]

vamp also likes 3 different booster packs

[manic talon]

certificate adds the card to your hand

and its a better card too

[sweet bramble]

Some other jokers like certificate adds it to your hand
AW dang it im a slow typer

[wintry ice]

i think tower is right in the middle of them so not really

[haughty widget]

always take supernova

eternal supernova

[sweet bramble]

Goatnova

[haughty widget]

💪🏻

[sweet bramble]

WE LOVE SCALING JOKERS 🗣️

[manic talon]

like, guaranteed 50 chips for 1 hand isnt even that broken, why does it need to shuffle into your deck lmao

[gloomy marsh]

rank supernova, grimbo, and ride the bus

[round nexus]

yea i guess. But adding a stone to hand doesnt make the joker much better, you'll still only get +50 chips on one hand

[lunar zealot]

Bus > grimbo > nova

simple as

[unborn cliff]

any day now

[sweet bramble]

Best scaling joker is knife NO QUESTIONS ASKED! /j

[wintry ice]

knife is the best in terms of fun yeah

[sweet bramble]

This

[round nexus]

ride the bus > supernova > grimbo. I like my discards so grimbo is just annoying to play around

[haughty widget]

putting madness and knife in the build together and keeping whatever survives

[lunar zealot]

i would still rank grimbo over nova

Nova dies to eye and cannot obelisk pivot

and those are two very large sticking points at least imo

[sweet bramble]

Don't put all your baskets in one egg

[wintry ice]

being more picky with discards is less of a downside than being really vulnerable to needle and eye and not being able to pivot to larger hands in an emergency

[round nexus]

The best scaling joker is actually pants. There's a reason 2 pairs is my most played hand lol

[manic talon]

Supernova > Grimbo > Bus (on checkered)

[sweet bramble]

Holy based and true

[lunar zealot]

nova is as vulnerable to needle as most other scaling jokers

[wintry ice]

i kinda feel like this would be worth it

[sweet bramble]

Ooh la la

[manic talon]

8 ball into death into more poly 8s trust

[lunar zealot]

regardless the scaling mult tier list is red card > pants > bus > grimbo > nova > mostly everything else

[white zodiac]

could probably see marble and cert card timing get switched

[wintry ice]

i'd consider it more so because you can't pull out the emergency 4oak when you need to

[haughty widget]

pants also functions on the true goat

full house

[lunar zealot]

worst scaling +mult is bootstraps for obvious reasons

[sweet bramble]

FULL HOUSE TRUTHERS STAND UP

[lunar zealot]

Wrong reply

[round nexus]

I want a pants but for xmult. I want steel but for chips. The big update cant come soon enough

[lunar zealot]

🦗

[white zodiac]

thanks for the ping

[sweet bramble]

Even the crickets agree

[manic talon]

yea, or just make marble the same timing as cert

[haughty widget]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[white zodiac]

wouldn't have seen it

[lunar zealot]

god how old are you

[wintry ice]

the world if bootstraps did something

[gloomy marsh]

Amen

[round nexus]

Lool i love full house but i can never get anywhere with it

[wintry ice]

good enough rental

[manic talon]

pants and red card is the only truly good +mult scalers

[lunar zealot]

I think the red card vs pants debate should be talked about more

[gloomy marsh]

actually a very solid point. i had grimbo at the bottom but id consider repositioning it

[unborn cliff]

blueprint in 2 rerolls right

[wintry ice]

i think red card and pants are about tied

[haughty widget]

full house just feels better

[fiery nymph]

hierohlyph PLEASE

[gloomy marsh]

i think pants wins

[manic talon]

better than what? nothing?

[lunar zealot]

pants works better when money is scarce but red card is just extremely versatile

[haughty widget]

red card sucks

[white zodiac]

yeah about 6 mult per round on average

[lunar zealot]

proof?

[gloomy marsh]

noooo

[hardy fable]

vampires suck

[sweet bramble]

Too many good cards in the packs. Hustlers must avoid

[wintry ice]

according to what

[haughty widget]

why would i skip a card pack when i could take the card

[pine drum]

Any tips on how to get the tiny hand achievement easily?

[round nexus]

I've had some runs where my full house was higher level than 2 pairs (planet packs decided that for me) so i'd still play full house whenever i could, but i still mainly played 2 pairs because its more consistent

[haughty widget]

other scaling jokers don't require me to not take the card

[lunar zealot]

rental faceless/eternal jolly

[wintry ice]

would you rather have +3 mult or a suit changer

[lunar zealot]

tower/star/high priestess

aura/incantation

neptune/mars/jupiter

[hardy fable]

you shouldn't always take smth

[modest spade]

You open a joker pack it has perishable rental 8 ball and eternal rental showman do you take a card or do you get permanent +3 mult

[lunar zealot]

6 of clubs/stone card/red seal 4 of diamonds

[white zodiac]

counter point

[haughty widget]

this is tru but if it's not scaling what's the point

[round nexus]

I even had the unholy flush pants build. It was wild

[manic talon]

why would i take a bad card if i can just get +3 mult

[lunar zealot]

@manic talon do i send the pasta

[hardy fable]

what's the requirement again?

[haughty widget]

why would i take red card if i can get more mult from pants

[manic talon]

nah youve done it too many times today

[hardy fable]

because you can't take specific jokers

[sweet bramble]

Pros: Seeing 2 straight flush planet cards is funny
Cons: I don't get to giggle but all cons

[modest spade]

You don't choose your jokers

[wintry ice]

i tried to force a straight

[lunar zealot]

red card makes every pack useful in some way---in an ideal world you will open every pack every shop, and not all of them will have hanged man, a joker you want, immolate, mercury, etc etc
in this sense red card contributes as both a scoring (helping you win) joker and as a utility (gives dud packs the ability to still contribute to scoring) joker
helping matters is its +mult per pack skipped, and comparing the overall +mult to its peers, green joker and ride the bus
the latter 2 gain +1 mult per hand; on most decks that is 12 mult per ante; in contrast, red card is +18 mult per ante should you skip all 6 packs per ante
However this +6 mult is often not seen much as a straight upside in terms of mult per ante because rarely do you ever skip every pack in a given ante; in this sense it should be thought of as a buffer to let you weigh what packs to skip and which ones to take, as overall red card has more variance in favor of it gaining mult compared to its peers due to that fact
overall red card simply covers a very solid utility niche of making every pack opened useful whether it be through offering the card you want, or by giving +mult to red card (and it cannot be overstated that a niche like this is Very Good) while also being a good scaling +mult joker in its own right

[round nexus]

I just love that playing a flush that includes a 2 pair works with pants for situations like this

[sweet bramble]

Wait red card is good?

[lunar zealot]

Oh my god

[pine drum]

20 or fewer cards in deck

[haughty widget]

?

[lunar zealot]

we're literally talking about it right now

[wintry ice]

"this common is worse than an extremely strong uncommon so this common sucks"

[white zodiac]

the what

[manic talon]

well yea if you get to choose between those 2, but thats like saying golden joker is bad because cloud 9 is better

[lunar zealot]

Also red card isn't worse

[gloomy marsh]

probably ghost deck and immolate or abandoned deck

[wintry ice]

it's not

[lunar zealot]

In most scenarios red card is just as good if not better

[hardy fable]

get econ early so you can open packs, purple seals and trading card helps

[lunar zealot]

because red card is wholly hand agnostic

[wintry ice]

but do you expect to have an unbiased view on xmult jokers if you compare all of them to yorick

[modest spade]

if you're asking why would you take red card, it is because 1.- it's good and 2.- you're not gonna get pants every seed

[round nexus]

Sure red card is good, but its also insanely expensive. Even more expensive than constellation. And frankly, for some reason I've never won a run because of red card

[wintry ice]

for example

[fading cobalt]

Bro I fumbled a baron mime run 💔

[haughty widget]

oh if we're talking about commons ride the bus or green

[manic talon]

true, every joker is better than yorick

[sweet bramble]

Red card does feel like an instant win button when you get a good econ joker early

[fading cobalt]

Plutonium disappeared off the fucking earth

[lunar zealot]

It's utility and scoring all in one

[bleak seal]

10x yorick and I couldn't even beat violet vessel...
I hate vv so much I had like a +50 red card, a card sharp and allat yet i was still like 200k short

[lunar zealot]

red card teaches you opportunity cost

[wintry ice]

or if you compare every econ joker to rebate

[pine drum]

thanks will try it out

[wintry ice]

"insanely expensive"

[lunar zealot]

In an ideal world you open every pack every shop anyway

[shell dagger]

It’s not that expensive if you just open packs you already would’ve opened anyway

[lunar zealot]

just don't be an idiot

[wintry ice]

name a situation where you don't take packs above interest

[fading cobalt]

Red card is the same price as constellation lmao what

[round nexus]

The same logic applies to constellation. How come you say constellation is expensive but red card isnt when you have to open more packs for less value?

[haughty widget]

i think he means longterm

[bleak seal]

Red card is great

[haughty widget]

value to cost

[shell dagger]

I dont say constellation is expensive

[foggy dome]

Not the mime dna brainstorm in the same shop within 5 rerolls

[white zodiac]

@pale wolf

[lunar zealot]

because red card offers utility

[wintry ice]

where has this been said

[foggy dome]

Just replaced photochad and parking lmao

[lunar zealot]

if you open a tarot and get a hermit use the hermit

simple as

lmao

[sweet bramble]

Red is the yummiest flavor too so like yeah

[hardy fable]

red card make all pack good

[wintry ice]

it raises the floor of every booster pack to a good level

[haughty widget]

i like making the hanging chad and photograph kiss like in my joker yaoi

[shell dagger]

Anyway constellation scales the most from planet cards in the shop (expensive) or blue seals (free AND gamewinning), not packs

[lunar zealot]

red card makes every pack useful in some way---in an ideal world you will open every pack every shop, and not all of them will have hanged man, a joker you want, immolate, mercury, etc etc
in this sense red card contributes as both a scoring (helping you win) joker and as a utility (gives dud packs the ability to still contribute to scoring) joker
helping matters is its +mult per pack skipped, and comparing the overall +mult to its peers, green joker and ride the bus
the latter 2 gain +1 mult per hand; on most decks that is 12 mult per ante; in contrast, red card is +18 mult per ante should you skip all 6 packs per ante
However this +6 mult is often not seen much as a straight upside in terms of mult per ante because rarely do you ever skip every pack in a given ante; in this sense it should be thought of as a buffer to let you weigh what packs to skip and which ones to take, as overall red card has more variance in favor of it gaining mult compared to its peers due to that fact
overall red card simply covers a very solid utility niche of making every pack opened useful whether it be through offering the card you want, or by giving +mult to red card (and it cannot be overstated that a niche like this is Very Good) while also being a good scaling +mult joker in its own right

[wintry ice]

+3 mult is better than half of all tarots and nearly all planet cards

and most standard pack pulls

[round nexus]

what utility? Anything you get from packs you would still get regardless of red card. All it does is make pack skips worth something, which is good, but it doesnt add any utility

[lunar zealot]

Oh my god read my writeup

[haughty widget]

no

[lunar zealot]

making pack skips good is utility

[wintry ice]

it adds utility by making every pack give something useful

[fading cobalt]

Baron mime only scores good sometimes bro I swear to god

[sweet bramble]

Aww fuck I guess we goin walkie talkie for today

[modest spade]

You literally just described the utility it offers

[wintry ice]

well yeah baron is ungodly inconsistent

[haughty widget]

LESSSSSGOOOOOOO

[foggy dome]

Ive been carrying this baron since like ante 3

Ok maybe it was ante 5 i took petroglyph

[lunar zealot]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[sweet bramble]

If i copium it hard enough like i do for vagabond itll become good right? right?

[shell dagger]

Packs come with a risk, red card almost entirely removes the risk

[round nexus]

thats not what utility means....utility is econ, tarot, etc. Red card is 100% just scoring. It makes opening packs safe since you get something for skipping, but that something is just scoring. It doesnt give you seals or tarot or econ

[fading cobalt]

Even with level 7 high card, 6 kings and baron mime I still lost

[sweet bramble]

im sobbing god hates me

[lunar zealot]

ARE YOU DENSE

[wintry ice]

average baron moment

[lunar zealot]

RED CARD IS THE ETC IN THE UTILITY YOU JUST MENTIONED

[haughty widget]

truly meta

[wintry ice]

what is contained in that etc

[sweet bramble]

I can barely beat white stake as it is gulps... good luck...

[round nexus]

Ok, i guess you know what im saying better than me

[lunar zealot]

are you fundamentally incapable of understanding nuance

[haughty widget]

card game

[round nexus]

Ironic coming from you

[glass creek]

Utility is econ and such etc

🗣️

[lunar zealot]

is everything in a dictionary denotative and prescriptive

[lunar zealot]

Thought terminating cliche

[sweet bramble]

TOo many big words what happened to joker poker

[serene forge]

appeal to authority

[fading cobalt]

Bloodstone defenders trying to explain why bloodstone triggering 0/5 times when I need it to trigger for me to win is good

[haughty widget]

🤓

[lunar zealot]

you've said nothing of value in this entire conversation by the way

[slate lance]

Isnt utility stuff like shortcut and four fingers, econ is not utility

[lunar zealot]

😎

[hybrid tendon]

you're contradicting yourself, you say "at least try being performative" while describing what being performative is

[haughty widget]

i like it when the funny number goes up

[serene forge]

@pale wolf come say your line

[lunar zealot]

Non sequitur

[sweet bramble]

So true my king

[serene forge]

whats the convo btw i just got here

[wintry ice]

red card is a pretty good way to make number go up

[fading cobalt]

You summoned the horse

[lunar zealot]

children

[hardy fable]

that what red card does so red card good

[haughty widget]

jombo balatro

[hardy fable]

anyways I will leave so you cnst prove me wrong

[serene forge]

yeah i can see that but what else

[lunar zealot]

red card mainly

[haughty widget]

my eyes have been opened

[serene forge]

I love Red Card

[glass creek]

I was kinda just mocking this message tbh #🕹・game-discussion message

[wintry ice]

person calls red card bad
the usual happens

[lunar zealot]

Red card and pants do different roles i feel

[sweet bramble]

red goat

[foggy dome]

This started as a flush build btw

[lunar zealot]

pants works better when money is scarce but is not hand agnostic

[serene forge]

there are two types of people in the world
people who think red card is bad
people who are good

[lunar zealot]

WHAT

[modest spade]

did you know that by skipping once, red card triples your chips 🤯

[serene forge]

brilliant

[lunar zealot]

GET A ROOM

[slate lance]

Oh im sorry then 😭

[sweet bramble]

i love chess yo

[slate lance]

I just opened chat

[haughty widget]

chess does slap

[glass creek]

No worries

[sweet bramble]

Wanna hop on lichess

[glass creek]

Also I saw that message that got deleted wtf

[haughty widget]

i gotta find my old lichess

[slate lance]

What got deleted?

[serene forge]

nothingggggg

[lunar zealot]

Red card has scoring and utility and is common

[hybrid tendon]

dw about it

[haughty widget]

i ended up using chess.com bc my friends and wife do

[lunar zealot]

less money efficient for its purpose but is much more versatile than any of its peers

[serene forge]

carmelitablush

[sweet bramble]

I got bullied into using lichess

[haughty widget]

impregnation threats

[hybrid tendon]

yeah red card is great

[hybrid tendon]

not threats

[haughty widget]

you must be friends with some real fucking nerds then

[slate lance]

Oh o-o

[hybrid tendon]

damn

[lunar zealot]

By far pants's best quality is that it's uncommon though

[serene forge]

i feel bad for your wife

[round nexus]

Dont put words in my mouth. The first thing i said, and i said it countless times, is that red card is good. You're just upset that i said it doesnt provide utility, because it doesnt. Utility is things that make big hands easier like shortcut, four fingers, merry andy. Tarot and things that generate them. Seals and things that generate them. And retriggers. Red card does none of those. Its only good because it makes it safe to open packs knowing you get something for skipping

[lunar zealot]

for fairly obvious reasons

[sweet bramble]

I gotta make a new account because my i forgot my old lichess password for THEDISCOMBOBULATOR7

[haughty widget]

?

[warped wave]

could I get some help here?

[lunar zealot]

let's think logically for a second

let's say we don't have red card

[glass creek]

The birth of THEDISCOMBOBULATOR8?

[sweet bramble]

Yessir

[lunar zealot]

And there is a spectral pack in the shop

[fading cobalt]

Atleast we have green card

[serene forge]

i tilted 150 elo points in chess the other day

then i untilted myself

[rough prairie]

Well, bunch of easy runs today, got Blue deck to Purple stake

[lunar zealot]

we could spend 4 dollars here to have the chance to find something good like immolate or medium

[serene forge]

such is life

[stark karma]

the way legendaryless naneinf is so barely possible makes it feel like a argesque ending purposefully put in by thunk

[manic talon]

ah right, i forgot that the word performative itself has turned into the opposite of what it means

[sweet bramble]

im basically a genius 500 elo player and i only play the fried liver attack

[lunar zealot]

But if the pack is ecto/aura then you wasted money

[sweet bramble]

Good luck kiddo . play safe.

[lunar zealot]

red card gives utility in that sense

because it makes every single pack useful in some way

tarots could give hermit or +3 mult

[round nexus]

Thats not what utility means

[rough prairie]

Aura is never wasteful

[lunar zealot]

standards could give blue seals or +3 mult

[sacred trench]

My orange stake win, 8 ball was amazing

[serene forge]

aura is wasteful because it's low impact

[round nexus]

Taking the spectral card is utility, skipping the spectral pack is scoring

[sweet bramble]

Congrats man

[rough prairie]

It's better than +3 mult

[haughty widget]

note im rusty af

[serene forge]

hmm do i want +3 mult all the time or do i want to get maybe 50 chips or 10 mult on one singular card

[lunar zealot]

Yes and red card is both scoring and utility

[sweet bramble]

alright let me hack into the lichess servers to make the discombobulator 8 (making an account)

[serene forge]

are you taking wheel of fortune with red card

[lunar zealot]

you gain scoring through its utility

[gloomy marsh]

gahdamn the red card debate still going

[serene forge]

you're not right

[sacred trench]

Thank you, 8 ball was a long shot but I already had the deck with 7 eights and 10 jacks before I got hit the road and 8 ball

[round nexus]

The +3mult is on every hand, the aura is on one card. I'd say they're equally good, you just have to use situational judgement

[fading cobalt]

1/52 chance to draw your chips or mult for one hand or an extra +3 mult for every hand

[white zodiac]

what’s better
3 mult
50 chips that can score sometimes once

[haughty widget]

oh shit wait my old lichess account has my full legal name lmao

[manic talon]

no, not always. +3 mult on every hand is more value than +50 chips/10 mult/or 1.5X on one card on one hand

[round nexus]

Oh well based on that definition, every single joker in the game is utility

[lunar zealot]

If you know how to use them yes

rare blocking exists

[sweet bramble]

Impressive that you got 8 ball to work ngl

[lunar zealot]

Uncommons proc baseball card

[round nexus]

Pants is utility because it gives scoring and scoring is beneficial

[hardy fable]

I uhh, make bb proc more often

[white zodiac]

+50 for 1 hand or more mult for 4 hands on the lower score balance

[round nexus]

thats the same logic as you're using with red card

[hardy fable]

so I'm utility scoring and the best

[lunar zealot]

prove it's the same logic

[slate lance]

I think utility is a category of jokers
So like theres +mult, x mult, chips, econ and then utility

[fading cobalt]

How are you this dumb

[lunar zealot]

the burden of proof is on you

[white zodiac]

and contributing to scaling and x mult late game

[sacred trench]

I was pretty impressed too, I got 68 mult on the Fortune teller before of 8 ball

[sweet bramble]

daaaamn

you know whats up

[haughty widget]

alr new lichess up

[fading cobalt]

Can you use one more tarot pls

[sweet bramble]

dm me it and ill join after this really tough white stake photochad plasma run

[lunar zealot]

Can you use one less tarot please

[fading cobalt]

Ew no

[round nexus]

Easy. The definition your provided (which we're not oxford so we're not taking everything literally, but sure) states that utility is something beneficial. That means scoring is utility since scoring is beneficial. That means red card is no more utility than any other joker that provides scoring

[haughty widget]

ok i was agreeing with you on the basis of hating metaslaves but you might just both be cooked

[haughty widget]

its so over chat

[white zodiac]

can you use one more tarot please

[sacred trench]

For you possibly

Maybe I will use 2 and ruin it

[sweet bramble]

If yall really wanna be invoking appeal to this and other rhetorical appeals first yall gotta appeal to common sense by not arguing with a default pfp asking weird qeustions

[round nexus]

Lol I'm just using his logic. I disagree with it but i'm proving a point here

[sacred trench]

Or go to gold stake and it will be left a mystery if I used another one

[slate lance]

Chat rate my games thingy (ignore 'i love everyone hates' i couldnt think of anything so i whacked below zero there)

[lunar zealot]

'his'

[fading cobalt]

If you don't use the second tarot for 67 seconds then both people win

[white zodiac]

#🃏・off-topic

[sacred trench]

It took 2 days for me to go from white stake to Gold stake on yellow deck

[round nexus]

theirs, happy now? I cant really misgender you when i dont know the gender

[slate lance]

Yeah no

[lunar zealot]

My pronouns are in my bio

[wintry ice]

3*4 > 10

[white zodiac]

don’t make me turn red

[hybrid tendon]

it's literally on her profile 😭

[lunar zealot]

you've known me since april

[round nexus]

And why would i go on your bio?

[sweet bramble]

Jin Sakai is my goat, and you gotta play No Man's Sky, it's one of my favorite games ever

[hybrid tendon]

red card

[slate lance]

Oh pls do, i need some extra mult rn

[hardy fable]

I see balatro so I'll say 10/10

[sacred trench]

Painted deck all you need to find is photo Chad

[round nexus]

I dont go on random discord users bios

[lunar zealot]

You've known me since april

[round nexus]

In any case, my bad for using the wrong pronoun. I'll take more care from now on

[haughty widget]

i really like when the cards are played

wrong message

anyhow

[fading cobalt]

They hate tlou so I'll say 0/10

[lunar zealot]

your definition of utility is simultaneously incredibly narrow and comically broad

[haughty widget]

is NMS actually good?

[slate lance]

Frr altho i think i might prefer Atsu, shes the ghost of yotei character and i started it recently
And yesh ik im just waiting for a big sale, i love space games

[haughty widget]

I've heard it improved

[sweet bramble]

Thats fair, NMS goes on sale for like $20 a lot

[white zodiac]

hermit

[slate lance]

You will NOT catch me using painted deck anytime soon

[sweet bramble]

It's so good rn

[lunar zealot]

red card is utility because it gives booster packs value no matter what

[round nexus]

How is ghost of yotei? I loved tsushima but i dont have the budget to buy yotei atm (i used it on silksong lol)

[lunar zealot]

because you can either get things like hermit for money or +3 mult

[fading cobalt]

I'm a nebula deck hater

[slate lance]

I goldstaked it and im never doing that shit again

[lunar zealot]

assuming the pack is a dud

[steel chasm]

Ghost deck is cool

[sweet bramble]

I don't like plasma deck it makes so many jokers worse 😔

[bronze linden]

its amazing now

[steel chasm]

Nms peak

[slate lance]

Ghost of yotei is amazing, i platinum trophied it and enjoyed almost every second, id really recommend it when u gather the money :3

[haughty widget]

i just remember it flopping on launch

[round nexus]

I understand what you're saying, and it is good value. But I still dont consider that utility. Its ok for us to disagree, you know that right?

[lunar zealot]

this is the same logic for something like campfire making rentals always useful

[sweet bramble]

Look at the steam page for it

[sacred trench]

If it makes you feel better, it took me 6 hours to bet Gold stake on black deck but it was my second deck I bet on Gold stake, my favorite is abandoned

[lunar zealot]

because it allows for any rental to be bought and sold for net zero dollars and x0.25 mult for the ante

that's also utility despite it being for scoring

[haughty widget]

i might pick it up then soon, I like the idea of the game

[bronze linden]

i got it just after the flop when it was on sale for like £2 and it is the game i have played the most second only to minecraft

[slate lance]

I think i took the longest on plasma im ngl

[warped wave]

...

[lunar zealot]

Baseball card gives utility because every single uncommon now becomes good

no matter what

[sweet bramble]

The illusion of free choice

[lunar zealot]

because they give x1.5 nult

[slate lance]

Average balatro ragebait

[sweet bramble]

Hmm what skins do yall use for your cards im curious

[warped wave]

prob ballot right?

[sacred trench]

Plasma was not difficult for me anymore as I now am using it to try and get endless, I have only made it to ante 23 so far

[slate lance]

Photochad is so boring to use im ngl

I actively avoid iy

[round nexus]

Chad is the easy pick here. Its useful more times than photo

[lunar zealot]

Utility is a spectrum

and it's easy to fall into pitfalls and organize jokers too arbitrarily

[sweet bramble]

guys.. what card do i pick in this screenshot?

[haughty widget]

we doin lichess btw

[lunar zealot]

a joker can give utility even if you don't consider it to be explicitly utility

[sweet bramble]

Im hooked on the balatro disease im sorry maybe later 💔

[slate lance]

But the x2 blind size on purple stake+ is so hard tho 😭

[haughty widget]

is coo

[round nexus]

True. During C++, i only did photochad in 2-3 runs. Its not eve good in late game gold stake without an insane amount of planets

[lunar zealot]

Photochad sucks ass

just play pairs and use +mult

[slate lance]

Ok i think my #1 is chad too but i always try combo it with either lucky or 8ball or smt 😭

[sacred trench]

Plasma was the third deck I bet on Gold Stake and I had the mindset of all chips until ante 5 or 6 or I just used chips to win

[round nexus]

Sure if your goal is to win. But if you just want to have fun you can do whatever (unhinged response incoming)

[lunar zealot]

literally not talking to you

[sweet bramble]

i have acutally never checked my stats before im just a drone sheeple jesus christ

[sacred trench]

What do you think of flushes

[fading cobalt]

Baron rework: baron gains 0.5x mult for each king in full deck

[lunar zealot]

Egg in top 10 is crazy

[round nexus]

Its a discord server, you're talking to everybody here, me included

[lunar zealot]

not even going to address the elephant in the room

[slate lance]

I mean tbf it can definitely work in late game but its meh, id rather have another + or x mult than photo

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[sweet bramble]

Temperance my beloved

[lunar zealot]

Not anymore

[white zodiac]

you need to take a look at RT95’s plasma only c++ profile that shits cursed

[lunar zealot]

Oh god

[slate lance]

They can work, im happy with all types of hands
Full house is overhated too imo

[fading cobalt]

Bloker?

[round nexus]

Lets go back to a fun topic. Flush pants is cursed but hilarious build

[lunar zealot]

Photo

[fading cobalt]

Not bloker???

[lunar zealot]

Blue is fine early

[sacred trench]

I tried going with full house for awhile, I think flushes are one of the easiest to win Gold Stake on

[slate lance]

Mynes mercury but jupiters catching up in 2nd

[lunar zealot]

good tempo joker that technically scales

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message

[sweet bramble]

When i was new to the game bro like regualr jimbo and half joker were in my top 10 😨

And misprint

[round nexus]

Blue joker + BP + brainstorn + certificate stonks

[lunar zealot]

EEEEWWWWW

[slate lance]

I mean i usually just go with whatever hand the jokers i get work with

I dont gravitate towards a hand

[manic talon]

zero Xmult is kinda funny

[sweet bramble]

Squoker fans YAY

I LOVE SQUOKER

[lunar zealot]

I never really considered it bc like

You just die to vv

so you can't sticker anything

[sacred trench]

So fair I really like two pair, I feel I can Adapt to almost any boss blind with two pair

[haughty widget]

original joker + 4 blueprint

[round nexus]

Jimbo carries ante 1 tbh

[white zodiac]

3 chip scalers, 5 econ jokers, drunkard lmao and ballot

[haughty widget]

TRUE

[supple veldt]

do you take eternal jimbo if it's the only +mult on black deck lol

[lunar zealot]

EEWWWWW

[slate lance]

Yeah u have a point and it has good scaling, trousers is my goat 😋

[white zodiac]

i kinda understand why though

[round nexus]

I'd take a planet card and wait for something else

[sweet bramble]

Black deck has made me do so many things i am not proud of

[supple veldt]

it was out of a pack

[foggy dome]

Might be done for, we'll see

[slate lance]

No, grab the jimbo
Easy gold sticker

[white zodiac]

that’s how i lose my streak :3

allegedly

[round nexus]

But have you tried the unholy flush pants build?

[manic talon]

yea but chips only probably happens more often than Xmult pivot, and theres less chip jokers than Xmults

[lunar zealot]

Oh hell no you die

[foggy dome]

Yep dead

[lunar zealot]

rip

[round nexus]

That implies you can beat gold stake with just 3 jokers

[foggy dome]

Was a good fight

[haughty widget]

highest ante for me is 12 so I'd already have been cooked

[foggy dome]

New mobile pb

[sweet bramble]

i am foaming at the mouth

[round nexus]

Wait no wrong deck. I confused black with painted

[slate lance]

3!? Its black deck
Youd still have 5

[white zodiac]

which you can

[slate lance]

Ah ok

[haughty widget]

i want to boil eggs

[manic talon]

thats like, normal

[sweet bramble]

Egg is so funny I love egg

[haughty widget]

actually tho whats the beef with painted deck

+2 hand size is useful and you can play around the missing joker

[white zodiac]

eternal conservatives

[foggy dome]

-1 joker angry face emoji

[haughty widget]

omg me

oh wait you mean eternal jokers

[slate lance]

Yea but u get in situations where u have 4 amazing jokers then cant get a 5th amazing rlly good joker
Its just stressful

[round nexus]

Of course you can, I meant it as in it's hard to do it with just 3 jokers because its not easy to find 3 jokers good enough to carry on gold stake

[white zodiac]

what

[haughty widget]

that's fair

[sweet bramble]

balala loves me today

[haughty widget]

I think it's just preference at that point

[white zodiac]

i find those three pieces on a regular during streak attempts

[slate lance]

Yeah, my fav so far is ghost deck

[serene forge]

I hate Bloodstone

[slate lance]

Its fun

[haughty widget]

i fw you heavy

[slate lance]

I love stonebloods

[haughty widget]

worst come to worst that hex is money

[round nexus]

Painted deck is great. I was hesitant bc of -1 joker slot, but the increased hand size helps alot with big hands. And i love my straights

[lunar zealot]

MY GOAT

[white zodiac]

not one of the better decks for consistency though rip

[sweet bramble]

Baseball card is kewl

[slate lance]

When i was goldstaking it , it was super annoying 😭 prob cus it was my 2nd goldstake lol

[slate lance]

Hell ye!

[slate lance]

I think its a bit overrated but it can work

And i mean just a bit

[round nexus]

Sure, but not when you're trying to get stickers. In that situation (at least thats what i did) you try get as many jokers without gold stickers

[bleak seal]

Holy shit

[white zodiac]

exhibit a

[sweet bramble]

Yeah its not my favorite xmult joker but if i say what my favorite xmult joker is im in big trouble here

[white zodiac]

b

[bleak seal]

6 out of my last 8 runs all had legendaries wtf, I'm running triple ride the bus rn I hope it's not trib lol

[white zodiac]

uh

[round nexus]

The greediness made me lose a few times, but as a result, i was able to get 3-4 gold sticker per run up until there was only like 10 stickers lef

[slate lance]

SAY IT PLEASEE

[sweet bramble]

Lucky cat

[bleak seal]

CHIGOAT

LETS GO

chigoaaaaat

[slate lance]

Why would u be in big trouble!?

Lucky cats the goat

[sweet bramble]

I saw some lucky card slander earlier

[slate lance]

A bit harder to get going but its still amazing

[slate lance]

WHAT THE FUCK

Theyre my fav enhancement :[

[sweet bramble]

Theyre so nice

Something something stick to the meta in the singleplayer indie game

[slate lance]

Sometimrs the game screws me and i get no triggers but when i do it feels do nice

[round nexus]

My last run (just a basic white stake run to officially get the C++ achievement) i had a full deck of lucky hearts with oops and bloodstone, then found cat in ante 5 and after that got 0 lucky hits for 2 antes

[slate lance]

Whats the meta enhancement then?

[haughty widget]

its a nice card

i like getting more value out of uncommons

[sweet bramble]

Yeah not a ton of uncommopns that are AMAZING on thier own

[slate lance]

Lmao 😭

[round nexus]

I love lucky cards, but sometimes they troll so hard

[slate lance]

Yeah

[sweet bramble]

This guy is so goated hes getting gold stickers on white stake

Drop the method

[slate lance]

But thats what poker should be abt

Gambling >:3

[sweet bramble]

I got two straight flushes in a row is the world trying to tell me soemthing

[haughty widget]

i do actually plan to learn actual poker soon

[sweet bramble]

I got into this game because i love poker

[white zodiac]

9 stickers, 8 hand obby licks with 3 dead joker slots, no x mult runs, some other shenanigans, etc

[round nexus]

Lol i got all the gold stickers on gold stake obviously, but you need to win an additional run to get the achievement, so i did it on white stake because i wanted something relaxing after months of doing only gold stake and going out of my way to take useless jokers just for the stickers

[foggy dome]

There we go, new mobile pb. On checkered deck. I was honestly just going for the stake sticker

[sweet bramble]

oh yeah im jk dw

[haughty widget]

im broke as shit sadly

[sweet bramble]

Naw i never play with real money

[haughty widget]

oh fair

dont really got many rls anymore since i quit drinking

so i dont got many people to learn with

[round nexus]

@white zodiac Good job? You really just flooded the chat with 20 images to prove what?

[white zodiac]

your point

[jagged valve]

Chat am I healing ✌️🥹

[white zodiac]

this is a game discussion after all

[white zodiac]

mayhaps

[sweet bramble]

Yeep. a lot of people only hang out when theres alcohol, that is really scarily common

[jagged valve]

Got burnt the first buffoon

[lavish compass]

devilish pack

[foggy dome]

Discord users when someone discusses the game in #🕹・game-discussion

[jagged valve]

Negative for sure

[sweet bramble]

The illusion of free choice

[jagged valve]

Photopack

[foggy dome]

Photo comes back around. Nab the negative

[round nexus]

I have a question: Why pairs over high cards? High card is more consistent so i never really understood what makes pairs better other than a couple joker synergies

[sweet bramble]

Pair's planet card gives +15 chips/level as opposed to 10, it's small but it adds up super fast
More cards work play with pairs a little nicer

[round nexus]

Dont get me wrong, i hate both. I prefer 2 pairs and straights. But to me it looks like if you want to play as many hands as possible, high card seems better

[tranquil cargo]

there's nothing special about pairs in particular, sometimes high card or 2 pair is better depending on the run

[tranquil steppe]

Negative Chad ain’t bad

[round nexus]

When i get burnt joker, I gravitate towards high card since im not guarateed to open with a pair (contrary to what some people say)

[white zodiac]

#🕹・game-discussion message
claims that getting stickers is hard
gets told that it’s not hard
says that winning with 3 jokers is hard
proceeds to be sent runs that go against this grain of thought
gets hit with mib flash and asks a looping question

[lunar zealot]

Welll

see2/duo/obelisk

And those 3 are significant

[cloud sinew]

pairs also work better for bus as you can throwaway faces with the pair

[round nexus]

I didnt say getting stickers was hard. I said i always got greedy and went for 3-4 stickers every run, which alot of the time cost me the run

[round nexus]

Thats true. Ig it really does depend

[sweet bramble]

guyhs.... which one do i choose... fuck...

[round nexus]

I think i built every single hand at some point during C++. Much more enjoyable than spamming pairs

[tranquil cargo]

what boss is upcoming?

[cloud sinew]

which boss is it this ante

[white zodiac]

most scalers prefer pairs for chip scaling, planet scaling, obelisk pivot, more joker agnostic options, r2 4 pair just beating out big blind, etc… chips are nonexistent in pluto scaling throughout the game while having no late game scoring benefits outside for an unnoticeably easier poker hand draw

[sweet bramble]

the manacle

[cloud sinew]

take brainstorm

[tranquil cargo]

is its effect "x10 blind requirement for every brainstorm owned"

oh good it isn't

[round nexus]

If its one of the debuff bosses, then you can get $24 out of matador lol

[cloud sinew]

$32 :3

[white zodiac]

i can’t believe this

[jagged valve]

Yeah Balatro nice try

Me from 1 week ago would probably take this

[sweet bramble]

Me from right now would take it #TAKETHENEGATIVES #TEMPERANCE

[jagged valve]

Back to baby I guess

[round nexus]

I agree with most of that but are you really going to be boring and do pairs when you get early BP BS double burnt

[crystal field]

wdym

the negative wily?

i actually would take it because i still need my wily sticker

😓

[white zodiac]

what kind of unrealistic scenario are we discussing now

also yes

[crystal field]

yes

[tranquil cargo]

yeah, go for straight flushes with 3x burnt joker

[white zodiac]

consistency wise

[crystal field]

because me like to winnnn

4 pair levels per round is insane

[sweet bramble]

Balatro players when it comes to thinking about the game rather than playing it

[lunar zealot]

well i'm at college right now

[round nexus]

Lol i'm just having fun. But it actually did happen with me. I got shop 1 burnt, shop 2 invis, shop 4 BS and all in on high card. It was pretty fun just filling up on steel blue seals and the late mime made it even better

[sweet bramble]

same sadly 💔

[lunar zealot]

not like i can play balatro under these conditions

[sweet bramble]

#skippedmyclasses

[lunar zealot]

(saturday)

[crystal field]

i be playing balatro in class tbh

[white zodiac]

id like to win on all of my runs, not just the "good" ones

[white zodiac]

my class can’t do that

[lunar zealot]

I need a fucking drink

[round nexus]

But who are you competing against? why do you care so much about winning?

[sweet bramble]

Im switching to a music major next year #FUCKCOMPUTERSCIENCE

[crystal field]

most of mine cant either 😔

[lunar zealot]

Midterms have been kicking my ass

[haughty widget]

im a dropoutchad

[lunar zealot]

i need to drink LIQUOR

[crystal field]

midterms?

[white zodiac]

why do i care so much about winning

[crystal field]

its novemver

[fiery nymph]

peak

[jagged valve]

Red stake

[lunar zealot]

I am not american

[crystal field]

how does it work for you then

[white zodiac]

somebody really asked this question

[round nexus]

The only reason i cared about winning was C++. Otherwise i just do whatever is the most fun

[lunar zealot]

12 week semester

[crystal field]

Oh easy

[sweet bramble]

College is HARD 💔

[jagged valve]

Who here unseeded naneinf

[white zodiac]

prob a lot of ppl

[lunar zealot]

Chat rate my stats

[round nexus]

ACtually even during C++ i was still avoiding pair spam because i would get burnt out

[white zodiac]

that wanted to

[scenic reef]

first ever gold stake win!!

[tranquil cargo]

I did

[white zodiac]

no bbc

[sweet bramble]

Good job!! 😄

[lunar zealot]

constell as my top 2 is genuinely crazy

[crystal field]

ggs butno more flushes

[white zodiac]

0/10

[lunar zealot]

I cant remember the last time i used constell

[sweet bramble]

Sheep in wolf's clothing

[jagged valve]

Also like no special tools for ante 1 Perkeo or however that works

[sweet bramble]

but otherwise fire

[round nexus]

Answer it. Dont deflect. What reason is there to care about winning so much?

[sweet bramble]

Winning fun me like fun game

[white zodiac]

i mean i’m currently there (too lazy to post updated stats)

[crystal field]

constellation is bae

[lunar zealot]

SHOOT THE MOON?!?!?!?!

[tranquil cargo]

because the goal of the game is to win?

[scenic reef]

fluyshes are fun gameplay man i dont have to think

[round nexus]

But losing can be fun too. Winning is not the same as fun. And losing isnt the same as boring

[scenic reef]

flushes so tuff

[haughty widget]

i like shoot the moon bc nostalgia

[crystal field]

flushes you have to think a lot more than pairs js

[sweet bramble]

I actually jump out of my chair and dance when i lose

[white zodiac]

what kind of stupid question is this, the whole point of playing games is to win as an objective

[white zodiac]

oh yeah

i can’t take those streamers seriously

[scenic reef]

bro supernova is the best joker in the game

[white zodiac]

gotta send a message my own way

[scenic reef]

supernova flush runs are js wonderful

[white zodiac]

meh

[lunar zealot]

SHOOT THE MOON?!?!?!?!?!?;?;?!?!?;?;?!)!??;;!!?!;?🥩?!!!

[white zodiac]

youre on the right track

[scenic reef]

straight flush sneaked in 😭

[round nexus]

The goal is to have fun. Of course i'll try to win, otherwise i wouldnt play, but i'll take the fun options even if they arent the best. You people need to stop obsessing over minmaxing everything

[crystal field]

try a supernova pair run

ur mind will b blown

[fiery nymph]

🤤

[lunar zealot]

Hell is bro talkin about

[vocal rose]

idk about flushes

[scenic reef]

wait no games r to have fun

[vocal rose]

but supernova runs are wonderful

[sweet bramble]

Minmaxing can be inherently fun, we need to get you on diablo

[round nexus]

Try it. You'd be surprised how much more fun it is

[white zodiac]

stop obsessing over min maxing everything, it’s not like this is just a card game where min maxing each decision is like the entire point of the game

[crystal field]

personally i dont like minmaxxing buti still try and make good choices and learn in thr game

[haughty widget]

some people do have fun minmaxxing though

[white zodiac]

and then they get rewarded for it

[tranquil cargo]

whoa, maximizing number in a game about making big number even bigger? sheer absurdity

[white zodiac]

as seen on all the shit i’ve sent here

[white zodiac]

just some heinous shit

idk

[sweet bramble]

For me, I just throw shit against the wall until I evnetually win gold stake and i have a good time, i don't mind winning or losing, but my experience is wayyy different than others

[round nexus]

Did i say to sell all your jokers for a legendary at ante 8? No. I said its fun to take jokers that arent necessarily the best, and imo, the fun option is the better option

[white zodiac]

i’m eating apple pie