🕹・game-discussion

[crystal field]

roffle does go for bloodstone evn tho he knows its shit

[wintry ice]

streamer streamer, make the only choice that would hurt you in the long run

[lost vault]

and hes more active on it

[swift tundra]

My last two wins were because of Obelisk, picked up in ante 5 and ante 6

[floral mural]

frostprime is just too much popups and noises mid run to enjoy if that makes sense

[lost vault]

specualative bloodshit

[unborn cliff]

roffle was the first ever balatro content creator i ever watched so i started saying bullshit that he says and saying decisions out loud

[wintry ice]

it sometimes happens with fib or if you get more uranuses than mercuries

[rapid folio]

like as in do people normally play it though

[tacit kraken]

Guys

[unborn cliff]

thanksfully i don't have some of those takes that he has

[pale wolf]

Two pair is a decent hand, it's better than pairs on some decks because of the higher scoring

painted, black, plasma

[crystal field]

probably nothing

[floral mural]

every damn stream feels like i cant focus on the game being played so i just dont watch it i guess

[rapid folio]

ok

[lament bronze]

Nono that's a completely sensical thing to say

[pale wolf]

I don't know what Frost prime is

[lament bronze]

Just wanted to make the joke about slay the streamer

[rapid folio]

also would you guys reccomend modding the game or waiting till I play the base game more

[lament bronze]

Someone said that they can't imagine pulling up constantly to fight the streamer when that's all frost prime does these days

[pale wolf]

whatever you want really, just note that modding the game might mess up your profile so you should do it on a different one if you care about achievements and unlocks and stuff

[crystal field]

base game is infinitely more fun than the broken mods imo

[lament bronze]

You literally lose nothing from playing modded before the patch (if it ever does) drops

[rapid folio]

ok

[rapid folio]

cause I seen all those broken mods like you say and it looks fun

[lament bronze]

FISH

[rapid folio]

ok

[pale wolf]

I haven't played any of the mods but the base game is good

[crystal field]

you dint have to work super hard to win so if that sounds fun to you then it probably is fun

def worth a try

[rapid folio]

I just wanna reach crazy high numbers and test stuff out lol

[floral mural]

oh yeah my mods on pc are like only texture and qol stuff

joker display handy and other stuff

[lament bronze]

Mao Zedong, please Mao Zedong, strike this person down 🙏

BURN HIS COWS

[pale wolf]

the coolest mods are vanillish

[lament bronze]

BURN HIS CROPS

[rapid folio]

the one I heard is called cryptic I think but ill look into vanilla ish and qol mods and stuff too

[pale wolf]

cryptid is uuh yea it exists

[lament bronze]

Get deck sleeves if you go with cryptid to actually have fun with some of the decks

[pale wolf]

some cool vanilla mods are deck sleeves, extra credit, paperback (kinda)

[lament bronze]

Base cryptid is fun but honestly a HUGE part of their gimmicks is way more bearable with deck sleeves

[pale wolf]

qol has talisman and handy and probably other things

[sweet raven]

not gonna lie, I do like some of the meme mods

[lost vault]

mreow

[pale wolf]

I really wanna play pokermon, I've avoided content from it because I expect to play it sometime in the future one day

[robust lance]

“Base Cryptid is fun”
EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

[rapid folio]

this right https://github.com/larswijn/CardSleeves

[lost vault]

base cryptid is indeed fun for a good while

[pale wolf]

is it crazy that I didn't know Lars made card sleeves until just now

[lost vault]

just not for long

[crystal field]

cardsleeves is goated

[lament bronze]

Look man yeah it gets old but so does anything that is as janky as it is

[floral mural]

yes but go to #⚙・modding-general for help on modding

[lost vault]

true

[pale wolf]

lars needs a gd rank

[lost vault]

i love hot potato mod

[rapid folio]

ok

[lament bronze]

Whenever cryptid has to make use of anym mechanic that isnt mathematical it fucking DIES

[robust lance]

Geometry dash?

[pale wolf]

no

im an adult

[rapid folio]

just one question you guys are sure it wont mess up my achievements right

[lost vault]

whats that gotta do with geometry dash

[robust lance]

Option to reenable achievement

[crystal field]

gometry dash rage compilation hehe

[pale wolf]

modding likely will result in weird behaviors when you "disable" the mods and play "vanilla steammodded"

[lament bronze]

"Scoring past the float string limit? Sure thing!"
"Yeah but I want to use the non scoring jokers you have do you mind if I buy two—"
The crash screen:

[rapid folio]

ok

[lament bronze]

Cryptid utility jokers or a drunk person, which one do you trust more to NOT crash?

[pale wolf]

idk

[crystal field]

piss joker: +10 mult but you piss yourself :(

[pale wolf]

i don't watch* cryptid content

[crystal field]

wow this balatro mod is too realistic….

[robust lance]

Me neither

I don’t even want joker mods either

[onyx cipher]

Opinion on Mr. Bones?

[lament bronze]

Huesos

[pale wolf]

👍

[crystal field]

hes pretty cool

[lament bronze]

He's cool

[robust lance]

The GOAT

[lament bronze]

But I don't like to rely on him

[floral mural]

nothing wrong with a backup plan he offers

[robust lance]

I only used him once but he’s fucking awesome

[lost vault]

purr

[pale wolf]

it feels cheap but then, is losing to VV not cheap?

[lost vault]

annoying as fuck in ante chamber

(hes the same as those red skeletons)

[crystal field]

a single use x4 when you cant score enough is a very funny concept

[floral mural]

i already erased the fact balatro and vampire survivors collabbed from my memory so i just fully forgot it exists for a moment

[lost vault]

i love the ante chamver dlc

[floral mural]

i dont like survivors style games

[lost vault]

jimbo is like isnanely broken

[floral mural]

personally

[lost vault]

dang

[pale wolf]

i dont even know what the game is

[lost vault]

its dopamine simulator

[pale wolf]

the only balatro collab i actually know the gameplay of is cyberpunk

[lament bronze]

Remember how balala uses casino tricks to keep you hooked?

[lost vault]

not even isaac?

[lament bronze]

Well they pioneered on that

[floral mural]

i have a raw hatred for that genre that cant be expressed in a non #🃏・off-topic way and id rather not get into arguements anyways

[lost vault]

vs?

[pale wolf]

is balatro in isaac

[lament bronze]

Active psychological manipulation

[lament bronze]

Ye

[lost vault]

no isaac is in balatroo

[pale wolf]

yeah I mean the ones where Balatro is in the other game

[floral mural]

there is a pretty neat mod for it

[lost vault]

oh

[pale wolf]

Like I know Jimbo got added to some farming game or whatever

but I don't really know anything about it besides that

[lament bronze]

Dave the diver, that one payday copy(?)

Idk it was about guns

[pale wolf]

yeah I don't know what dave the diver is

would I be stupid for assuming it's a diving game

[lament bronze]

No he does dive

[pale wolf]

aw look at this guy

[lament bronze]

Remember when I said this to the man himself right on a month where it would have dropped had he kept going and we never had a friend's of Jimbo again?

Kek

[red thistle]

He got featured in potion craft!

[lament bronze]

Same guy who dropped those updates every two months at the very start of the month (only late one was 12 of December because of goty)

[lost vault]

rotund specimen

[red thistle]

You get a fish trophy if you complete his quest.

[lament bronze]

Bros r2.π

[red thistle]

The more i look at him the rounder he becomes.

[haughty widget]

campfire seems good but i tend to lose to money when i get it

[lament bronze]

Twas the point

[lost vault]

campfire needs a good econ to fuel it

[lament bronze]

Best thing to say is to not go ham on it and hoard for the next ante to immediately have enough output to not have to worry anymore

[floral mural]

and learning moderation

[crystal field]

define good

[swift tundra]

I use these card faces, amazing game btw

[crystal field]

like working?

[lost vault]

idk

u just need money

[floral mural]

if the xmult isnt needed dont grow campfire

[crystal field]

campfire doesnt need as much money as other jobkers

[lament bronze]

Getting to know your output without campfire and adjusting accordingly on the go without needing to test around is the best thing you can do

[crystal field]

ime

[lament bronze]

Read this as jobbers but yeah definitely

[crystal field]

liquidation with campfire is basically free

[jagged valve]

Turns out the seed that got me to e26 would've been way better if I had opened a damn arcana pack in ante 3 (soul)

[lament bronze]

A LOT of jokers that people praise as wincons are some really awful jobbers

[jagged valve]

That would justify the lack of spectrals

[floral mural]

as long as your econ is just decent campfire works i find

[crystal field]

^

[floral mural]

if its in shambles campfire wont save you

[jagged valve]

TRUE OH GOSH

[crystal field]

something like constellation is way greedier

[jagged valve]

I miss so many good campfire

[lost vault]

so campfire is winmore

[lament bronze]

Yuh

[floral mural]

nor will much else tho

[crystal field]

theres big reason why campfire is the only joker thats $9

[lost vault]

vagabond will save me!

[crystal field]

(shes realllly good)

[lost vault]

i thought campfire was 8 bucks

[crystal field]

no

thats too cheap for cf

[floral mural]

a joker needing good money is fine as long as the reward is worth it (this is intentional boots slander that is such a bad joker)

[crystal field]

3rd most expensive joker behind the copy effects

[lost vault]

boots is so dog ass bruh

[lament bronze]

Whole interest threshold for +2 btw

[crystal field]

bootstraps is good if you- oh wait no its not

[lament bronze]

JJ is also shitass

But at least he can become cheaper

[crystal field]

UHH jj is ok :((((

[lament bronze]

And it's something you want to do

[floral mural]

jj lets you spend money too

which boots doesnt do

[lament bronze]

Instead of hogging up 40 for barely 20 mult

[crystal field]

would jj be better if it was +3 per reroll ?

[lost vault]

crazy how one of the worst money to mult ratio is like the mult joker directly related to money

[lament bronze]

Yeah but 5 bucks is still quite a lot

[shell dagger]

would it be better if he was buffed

[lost vault]

yeah

[shell dagger]

don’t think jj should be +3 imo

[crystal field]

better enough

and yeah i think +2 is good enough

[lament bronze]

When the handsy multers grow to a 1:1 it's kind of hard to defend them but at least JJ let's you find other jokers

[robust lance]

2.5

[lost vault]

should red card be nerfed

[crystal field]

jj comes in clutch when u have scaling xmult early as u develop ur econ

[shell dagger]

you’re rolling for other jokers anyway

just like you open packs anyway

[lament bronze]

I think the only real issue is the fact that by rerolling so much you find better stuff for the specific situation but he becomes a sunk cost to not grab them

[rapid folio]

apparently the best way to make sure I dont get achievements and stuff when playing modded is just go on steam offline mode

[crystal field]

eternal jj loves madness

[tawny bough]

FINALLY UNLOCKED ALL PLANNETS

funni deck

[lament bronze]

Congrats!

[tacit kraken]

Give up an idol?

[rapid folio]

is this true

[north schooner]

Do I tear up my drivers license here?

Seems risky, but more funny.

[lament bronze]

Kill showman

[crystal field]

holy moly twigs and pp wasnt the collab i was expecting but the onei ndeeded in my soul

[tacit kraken]

It’s negative twin

[lament bronze]

But yeah kill idol

[tacit kraken]

K thanks

[crystal field]

depends on handlevels

and squimbo

and x9 might also mean u dont need burger

[north schooner]

Square is 76 grimbo 42

[crystal field]

id sell square and keep planetmaxxing for mercury

[north schooner]

That's less fun

[crystal field]

your choice ofc

[robust lance]

But is it less JOLLY? 🎅

[tacit kraken]

?

I dotn even think there’s any improvements I can make joker wise is there

Besides negatives

[north schooner]

actually, square goes. I don't want him infecting my top 10 on this profile

[crystal field]

square is a top 4 joker tbh

hehe

[robust lance]

Top 16

[crystal field]

just cuz hes underperforming for whatever urbuikd is rn

[robust lance]

It’s 4 4 times

[crystal field]

cube joker ? wait ys!!

wait no

[robust lance]

No thats 64

[crystal field]

if it was top 9

thats cube

[robust lance]

Coming in the next update

[swift tundra]

Square Joker + Green Joker is what c++ dreams are made of

[crystal field]

wait

why am i not smart

8

top 8 square is cube joker

[robust lance]

No they’re made of brain signals

Doofus

[crystal field]

wee is kinda cube joker

if u think abou it

[swift tundra]

If you had a butt I'd kick it

[vocal rose]

ectoplasms

[crystal field]

double burn

[robust lance]

Can kick yours though

[tacit kraken]

I know but I haven’t found a spectral pack in like 7 antes

[hasty harness]

omen globe

pray for it

[vocal rose]

idol builds can use 2 ectos

with the paint brush

[robust lance]

Real men use 3 and then die

[hasty harness]

real men use 3 and get dna

real men use 100 and live because bean bug abuse

[vocal rose]

possible with nat neg juggler and palette

[robust lance]

🤖

[tawny bough]

HOLY THIS SYNERGY IS INSANEEEE

[robust lance]

Better with marble

[crystal field]

how is +1 card each round better than +2 cards each round for hologram

[hasty harness]

u can copy marble right?

[crystal field]

esp for a ff

[robust lance]

I got a hologram to 14 with only like 4 card packs because of marble (and blueprint I think)

[hasty harness]

either way its like the same thing

but i think dna better

[crystal field]

oh yeah

nvm

[robust lance]

Also doesn’t use a hand

[hasty harness]

since u get cards u want

[hasty harness]

sure but ur not bloating ur deck with stone cards

u get to bloat it with a card of ur choosing

[crystal field]

f5 build likes dna more than marble

[tawny bough]

teehee

[robust lance]

Simply do a stone card build

Chisel it into a football even

[hasty harness]

sure but i still prefer dna

🤷

[crystal field]

marball joker with stone joker ??

[hasty harness]

also its better with glass

[nova junco]

does castle pick between the 4 suits like ancient or only the ones you have in deck?

[hasty harness]

like right now ig

[crystal field]

looks in ur deck

[hasty harness]

picks between

wait

[nova junco]

thx

[hasty harness]

i was thinking about ancient

idk about castle

how that works

[haughty widget]

if your save is corrupt and you put in a backup, does this lock achievements?

[crystal field]

ancient is rhe only one thats indiscriminate

[swift tundra]

I believe castle only picks between suits in deck

I played with it on checkered recently

[robust lance]

Ion know 💔

[swift tundra]

and it was only picking hearts and spades

[hasty harness]

okay

well that settles that lol

[crystal field]

yes

[idle haven]

Pretty fun bloodstone run

[crystal field]

rip invis

😔

[uncut matrix]

bloodstone defenders assemble

[idle haven]

We are bloodstone defenders

[barren wigeon]

i dont like bloodstone but it got me a gold stake

[idle haven]

Genuinely no clue why i lost i used the same cards i did in my 90 billion hand

[barren wigeon]

im now neutral to bloodstone

[idle haven]

All my copies were the same

Weird

[crystal field]

bloodstone makes me tweak scratcing my arms and hair going crazy and insane

[idle haven]

Bloodstone haters hate fun

[hasty harness]

oa6 carries that fraud

[uncut matrix]

they’re just haters

[hasty harness]

idol better

🥶

[uncut matrix]

so says #1 idol glazer

[hasty harness]

someone has to be brave enough to say what we're all thinking

[idle haven]

Why cant ancient joker work like idol

[uncut matrix]

idol requires way more deck fixing than bloodstone

[minor portal]

idol when it sucks until the game is over already and you go into endless

[crystal field]

???

[hasty harness]

😈

[idle haven]

I mean like

[crystal field]

ancient joker clears idol

[idle haven]

It doesn't pick a suit you dont have in your deck

[hasty harness]

yes but that doesnt fit my agenda

so idol better

[idle haven]

I had all hearts and it picked clubs 💔

[crystal field]

ehh i think thats the flavor of it being “ancient”

[idle haven]

Yeah you're right

[crystal field]

and a fair tradeoff for how good it is

[pale wolf]

awesome joker (common)
10X mult when ante number is above 8

[hasty harness]

cant wait to sticker it 🥶

[idle haven]

Flush five ante 1 🤩🤩🤩

And then I die to no point scoring

[tacit kraken]

Had a good run…

[crystal field]

pathetic and worthless joker (rare)
+3 chips

[hasty harness]

no red seal is sad

😔

good run tho

[tacit kraken]

I had a bunch

Used them all tho

[hasty harness]

ah okay

[idle haven]

Judgement in the fool sell everything 8 ball in judgement

[tacit kraken]

Get this man a True

[hasty harness]

nat negative blueprint idol and brainstorm

from judgements

[tacit kraken]

I wanted more justices but

Couldn’t find many

[idle haven]

Not as good as 8 ball

[crystal field]

US moment

[tacit kraken]

🥀

[hasty harness]

🤑

[minor portal]

8 ball will be another judgement which will give showman and then other fools can be used for more 8 balls

[idle haven]

Keep showman

[haughty widget]

wym they got 9

[crystal field]

if u dont have atleast 4 8balls are u even playing

[idle haven]

So all 3 judgements give 3 8 balls

[minor portal]

apparently pool

[crystal field]

pool only had 1 8 ball.,,,

😊

[minor portal]

You clearly never played expert mode

[crystal field]

😓 😅

wellllll

[hasty harness]

i was looking at #1156061354076155944 and am i tripping or is this guy just dead

bro might have abused bean bug too much and forgot about scoring

😔

[crystal field]

depends on his flur 5

[idle haven]

How does it even get to this point

[crystal field]

their*

[hasty harness]

true high enough flush 5

might save

[crystal field]

ya

[hasty harness]

bean bug go brrrr

[crystal field]

bean so cool

i need to use it more often

[idle haven]

Bean

[crystal field]

i wish serpent would sjow up earlier

doesnt it only show up ante 5 and later

[heady narwhal]

yeah but if you got it ante 1-4 it would do nothing!
unlike ante 5+ where it does nothing

[crystal field]

early serpent + bean is best case scenario for weejee

[idle haven]

Photochad naneinf

Ill do it

[crystal field]

oop

ok

[hasty harness]

what if serpent made every card drawn have a 1/3 chance to be debuffed

so that way it isnt as free of a boss blind

its still pretty free

[crystal field]

serpent is bad for 5 card hand builds

[heady narwhal]

it's already getting buffed

[idle haven]

no

[crystal field]

which are rare on gold stake yea

[heady narwhal]

it's good for straights which are the only 5 card hand build

[hasty harness]

yeah its being made to be limited to ur handsize right

[crystal field]

if you only play 1 straight

[hasty harness]

so if u discard 1 card u dont get 3 back right?

[idle haven]

There should be a boss blind that disables all cards until a joker is sold 🤔

[heady narwhal]

yeah

"draw at most 3 cards"

[crystal field]

oh thats sickening

no fair

[hasty harness]

yeah baron mime is dead

[crystal field]

😔

[hasty harness]

lol

[heady narwhal]

why would you be playing two.

[crystal field]

1st one doesnt score enough

[latent egret]

perkeoless naneinf impossible now

[heady narwhal]

probably dead anyways in that case

[hasty harness]

tbf if they dont patch bean bug

u could still get it done

with baron mime

but if they do patch bean bug i doubt its possible

[latent egret]

its gonna be 20x harder

[heady narwhal]

you're likely to fail the draw on serpent but you're more likely to fail the draw on a regular ass blind

[hasty harness]

nah bean bug isnt hard at all

[idle haven]

I almost lost a run because I used immolate on serpent with only one discard left

[hasty harness]

ive gotten 2 runs

with bean bug

to ante 39

[north schooner]

chonky grimbo

[latent egret]

you need more than one bean bug

and perfect use of hands

[crystal field]

eeeh ok

[hasty harness]

yeah ive done 2 runs like i said where ive gotten like 35+ handsize

[terse dock]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1415780753735680151 collecrioh

[hasty harness]

if u bean bug on every possible ante

its pretty easy

just need early retcon

and econ

[latent egret]

you still need serpent to survive very late no ?

[hasty harness]

nah if u get like 50 handsize

u can beat everything without serpent

[heady narwhal]

ante 7 with hieroglyph, ante 8, ante 8 again with petroglyph?

[hasty harness]

smthin like that

[hasty harness]

this but u can also bean bug on ante 16 24 and 32

u dont need max hieroglyph value

etc

[haughty widget]

im quite the full house enjoyer, any tips i might not know on discarding for full house?

[crystal field]

dontttttt

💔 💔 💔

[heady narwhal]

best full house strategy tip: play 3oak

[hasty harness]

for example this run i only bean bugged on ante 16 and 24 since i didnt have econ to do it on ante 8

and i still got 35 handsize total

so its definitely possible if u midmax ur bean bugs

[heady narwhal]

if you find full houses fun then play them but it's a bit hard to give strategy advice because they're extremely suboptimal

read: the second weakest handtype in the game

[long oxide]

What do I want invis to copy

[hasty harness]

rick

[terse dock]

What's weaker

[heady narwhal]

perishable rental burglar

[swift tundra]

Yorick Grimes

[heady narwhal]

5oak

[hasty harness]

also no offense but bull is literally doing nothing rn 💔

[terse dock]

nah

[hasty harness]

get ur money up

[terse dock]

house is worse

[heady narwhal]

house is ok on ante 1/2

[long oxide]

Umm lok

[crystal field]

if ur playing 5oak why arent u playing 4oak

[long oxide]

3x 288

[terse dock]

play flush

[terse dock]

bored

[heady narwhal]

it's also something you can play to keep obelisk alive

[crystal field]

fair enough?

[crystal field]

actually true I love drawing a full house on obelisk runs

saves me a hc

[terse dock]

Just play 3oak

[ripe iris]

imagine if i had gotten canio instead

[crystal field]

canio is

a joker for sure

[north schooner]

You're saying strush is stronger than full house/5oak?

[terse dock]

It is

[vocal rose]

yes

[terse dock]

Strush has a point

[heady narwhal]

ueah

[tawny bough]

ggs that run was hella fun hehe

[north schooner]

huh...

[heady narwhal]

i've won multiple runs with strush

[terse dock]

+4 +40

[heady narwhal]

i've won 0 runs with 5oak/fhouse

[tawny bough]

almost got my second gold stake chat!!!!

[terse dock]

this is anecdotal

[crystal field]

the only benefit fh has over 3oak is that u can. play 5 card hands so uou can sometimes play it for the vampire

:p

[heady narwhal]

ok

[tawny bough]

new jokers!!!

[terse dock]

Just play stone cards

[tawny bough]

oh and another one

and another LOL

[terse dock]

No

All synergy jokers are bad or mid

[crystal field]

duo is huge

[heady narwhal]

glass joker my beloved

[tawny bough]

frrr

[tawny bough]

frr*

[heady narwhal]

this isn't just a synergy joker?

[crystal field]

duo is a gold stake beast

[alpine basalt]

bro why is it always the low stake runs that I find this shit bro 😭 that would be NUTS to find on gs

[heady narwhal]

if it's end of round as in before the cashout screen it's pretty usable early imo

[tawny bough]

kinda seems ass i mean with trading card its a free 0.75 mult per round but weird to get the glass(just my thoughts ive never played with it)

[terse dock]

what else does having 7 whole dollars do for you

[north schooner]

chat what's the easiest deck to win in 12?

[crystal field]

ice cream 🥀

[terse dock]

One ante

[alpine basalt]

ante 8 right before the boss and it is green stake

[heady narwhal]

at least two

[alpine basalt]

why must you taunt me like this game

nat neg too

would be a free sticker if I was on GS

[tawny bough]

second gold stake today!!!

[crystal field]

its telling you to go gold stake mode

[heady narwhal]

if you're good at spending your money (always end below $3) this is just as good as interest cap

[alpine basalt]

i'm working my way up there on this deck

one of the last 4 I have to do

[crystal field]

nebula deck was the 2nd last deck I gold staked

[terse dock]

Why would yoh want to spend your money when you could be saving for interest when it's most important

[tawny bough]

ghost was first and now yellow second :D

[alpine basalt]

the other 3 are like the easiest decks in the game too

[crystal field]

blu yellow ghost?

[alpine basalt]

bro like 2 rolls later as well

[alpine basalt]

ghost abandoned painted

[crystal field]

painted is easy but kinda sad

[heady narwhal]

gives you more spending power early allowing you to set up a build

you'd definitely want to pivot out of it quickly

but i think it's got a niche

[crystal field]

i dislike painted deck because it just feels sad lots of psychological damage

and I always forget the downside halgway thru the run

[heady narwhal]

it's like green deck but you aren't stuck with it the whole game

[crystal field]

😭

[coarse silo]

I might’ve done this challenge again but idc, this run was fun

[coarse silo]

Painted deck is fun bro

[crystal field]

if its fun for you

u have a healthier brain than me

[woven spire]

i hate painted.

i prefer even black

[alpine basalt]

look how much progress i've made on ghost deck, i'm just the most ghost-pilled of all time

[crystal field]

ok now thats crazy talk

[crystal field]

I LUV GHOST DECK

my favorite 😊

[alpine basalt]

i'm just doing the gs's mostly in order

minus the last 3 and checkered

[woven spire]

i just love joker slots

[alpine basalt]

cause I decided to gs checkered really early for some unknown reason

[crystal field]

its the easiest for inexperienced players that was def my case

the first deck i gs was red deck

[woven spire]

same

[crystal field]

nowadays I hate it

[alpine basalt]

I was not inexperienced at the time

I had beaten black deck gs

decided to do checkered afterwards as like a victory lap

[crystal field]

That makes sense

[haughty widget]

i keep getting this chill rabbi's entire sermon in the back as an advert on my balatro music playlist

[crystal field]

i mwan if you can black deck gs you can do anything really

[alpine basalt]

I love coupon tag first blind

[crystal field]

whut….

[alpine basalt]

banger

[tawny bough]

its funny but i find gold and orange stake arent much of a challenge like they dont make it much hard gold should be like rlly hard i feel like

[alpine basalt]

think it'd be harder if they do the blue stake rework they were talking about

[crystal field]

the big jump is blue and purple stake for sure

[tawny bough]

yeah

[crystal field]

i feel like os and gs should switch with bs ps

[tawny bough]

but i didnt have much issue with either blue or purple or rlly any of it tbf

[tawny bough]

yeah

the stakes defo need a rework

no questions asked

[alpine basalt]

oh wait I forgot I haven't done zodiac deck either

just blanked it out of my memory

[crystal field]

zack is fun

[tawny bough]

holy goated start

now the rest of the run is gonna have -1 luck lol

[crystal field]

ur chillin if you find scaling +mult

[tawny bough]

yeah fr

[alpine basalt]

man I hate when tarot packs make me actually pick between options instead of having just dying ant vs supernova

[crystal field]

what this mean

[tawny bough]

by 6 lol

pairs r ass early game lol

[alpine basalt]

had a choice between hanged man and a hermit whilst having erosion and >20$

[tawny bough]

hermit easy imo

[crystal field]

ew erosion

[alpine basalt]

whereas most tarot packs are like would you rather have hermit or the moon

[alpine basalt]

its low stakes

[crystal field]

oh ok

[tawny bough]

oh fair

mmm

[crystal field]

i still h8 erosion

but fair

[tawny bough]

imma go with gold seal

on king probs

[alpine basalt]

lost cause I picked hermit and wasn't paying attention to the bb and it was the needle

[tranquil steppe]

Erosion is ass

[shell dagger]

don’t play pairs just bc you find duo, you still want to win in as few hands as possible

[crystal field]

said it better than me

[terse vale]

crazy statement

ass is a strong word brah

[crystal field]

its quite.. ass

[tawny bough]

yeah imma play flushes till i get actual scaling for pairs to be good

[crystal field]

cheeks even

[terse vale]

its just mid

[pale wolf]

I hate getting rewarded for the thing that already rewards me, why does erosion even exist

[crystal field]

i hate erosion for the same reason i hate canio

[alpine basalt]

fuck me bro I was expecting that rare skip to be ass

[pale wolf]

sometimes hangman doesn't show up?

[alpine basalt]

I hate being rewarded for shit decisions

[crystal field]

card deletion is uncommon

and relying on it for scoring is

not best strategy

[terse vale]

actually true i’m stupid to not have thought of this 💭 you should be trying to cut cards when you can anyways

[pale wolf]

well obviously you don't take erosion when it's at zero

It's retroactive for a reason

[crystal field]

not a good strategy actually

[alpine basalt]

are we serious rn? just like that?

[pale wolf]

what erosion does is give you a very good option if you've been successful doing something already good in the run

[terse vale]

it does happen

[crystal field]

sure but whos to say Ill ever be far below 52 in an a8 run

[terse vale]

its not the best but its like ok

[crystal field]

im usually not

[pale wolf]

especially immolates being in the game

[crystal field]

and even then if I am

I already have +mult established

[alpine basalt]

why am I being rewarded for making one of the worst decisions possible

[pale wolf]

between immolate, glass cards, and hangman which isn't even that Uncommon to see, I think erosion is not ass

[tawny bough]

huge lets go!

[tranquil steppe]

At least with canio you can build up an X mult instead of +mult. And unlike erosion, there’s no cap to how high canio can go

[terse vale]

I would probably take it early if I had the money

[pale wolf]

if erosion was plus three it would be ass

[terse vale]

like ante 2

[tawny bough]

green+delayed grat is w

[crystal field]

if erosion was +5 it would still be ass

[pale wolf]

terrible take

[crystal field]

if you say so

[tranquil steppe]

• +10

[terse vale]

bro things can be mid sometimes

[crystal field]

its not mid honestly

[tranquil steppe]

lol everything is GOATd for zebra

[pale wolf]

whuh

[jagged valve]

Same seed, can't believe I missed a Perkeo on Ante 3

[crystal field]

i dont think they said this

[pale wolf]

I'm not saying erosion is the best, I think it's worse than most (?) of the common scalers

but it's still very decent because it rewards a good game plan already

[terse vale]

I wish it was better because I like the concept

[pale wolf]

You don't have to preemptively build into erosion specifically because It's already the right thing

[crystal field]

i could change my mind about this but my mind is saying rn id genuinely rather have the bootstraps

[pale wolf]

erosion is trash because it is nerfed on abandoned /s

[crystal field]

all other scaling +mult is miles above erosion

[crystal field]

THIS IS ALSO TRUE WHY DOES THE DESCRIPTION CHANGE

[heady narwhal]

erosion is way better than ft and bootstraps imo

[terse vale]

I guess it should say base deck size

[crystal field]

i dont even consider fortune teller so thats my bad

[pale wolf]

???

[crystal field]

id still prefer a fortune teller because it sells for more

[terse vale]

atleast with erosion you can spend money

[heady narwhal]

no it doesn't

they're both $6

[crystal field]

i thought erosion was $5

[latent egret]

you need 41 handsize to get naneinf

with 4 ectos lol

[crystal field]

it should be

[latent egret]

still doable on a perfect seed i guess

[alpine basalt]

BRO WHAT IS WITH THESE NON-GS SKIPS THATS THE 2ND NEG SKIP OF THE RUN

run is alr completely won btw

[heady narwhal]

i don't think it matters because i'm not going to buy erosion until the $1 difference is irrelevant anyways

[crystal field]

if flash card is $5 theres no reason for eroion to be $6 imo

[heady narwhal]

i think erosion is like an ok joker

[tawny bough]

possibly incantation+trance

[terse vale]

YA

[heady narwhal]

not good by any means but "free +40 mult sometimes" is pretty nice when it hits

[alpine basalt]

speak of the devil

[pale wolf]

I don't know if I like it or not

[crystal field]

its just when its this point what is it doing, if my deck is this small i clearly dont need this scoring 99% of the time

[alpine basalt]

neg skips with gc swash is so nice

[heady narwhal]

why

mult is good

[alpine basalt]

BUT WHY CAN"T I GET THESE SKIPS ON GS

[crystal field]

likely alr have +mult

[heady narwhal]

even with a high level 4oak, +40 mult is like x2

[pale wolf]

getting immo doesn't mean you have scoring

[alpine basalt]

this would be 5+ new stickers

[nova mantle]

ts js ragebaits me istg

[terse vale]

don’t see why more wouldn’t be bad! Just because your deck is small enough for erosion to be good doesn’t mean the run is won

[crystal field]

joker slots are limited

[heady narwhal]

good joker in shop so you're legally not allowed to complain

[tawny bough]

okay dang 50% chance it has a hugely w dupe 50% it dupes green and is mid

or immulate which is safe as hell

[nova mantle]

true

[crystal field]

if I have substantial +mult im lookin for xmult or already have xmult scalers that demand money

[terse vale]

could probably drop an econ joker you’d have

[nova mantle]

this will get me to ante 3 at least

[crystal field]

eeeeh the thing is

id rather the econ than erosion

[heady narwhal]

ok but like what part of this makes erosion worse than ft/bootstraps

[dreamy creek]

[heady narwhal]

both of them suffer from largely the same problems

[crystal field]

erosion is about equal to both

they have different problems

[terse vale]

[heady narwhal]

when you have a lot of money and/or have used a lot of tarots you're less likely to need +mult

[green stone]

50%

gogogo

[terse vale]

[green stone]

power rangers

[tawny bough]

lets go gambling

[heady narwhal]

the big difference is that erosion is much more likely to be at Big Number in a non-already winning scenario imo

[crystal field]

always immolate btw

[tawny bough]

i mean could be good

[tawny bough]

yeah ik lol

[heady narwhal]

$100 is a lot of dollars, 40 tarots is a lot of tarots, 10 cards removed is not a lot of cards removed

[crystal field]

you need $20

ya

[tawny bough]

do i take acro?

[crystal field]

it is when card removal is so uncommon

[tawny bough]

imma take acro

[crystal field]

thats 5 hung men or 2 immolate

[tawny bough]

free x3 is huge

[heady narwhal]

it's uncommon but it's frequently the best option you have

[alpine basalt]

bro number 3 you have to be joking

where are these in my gs runs

[terse vale]

and it is only 5 hanged men

and some justices

[crystal field]

of those three? id probably take bootstraps over them both esp because bootstraps and scaling chips is pretty fair

erosion is way too inconsistent comparatively

[terse vale]

ok well bootstraps is ass

[crystal field]

ft is about as bad and possibly worse than erosion

[crystal field]

100% agree

[alpine basalt]

bro if this was a gs run i'd be getting 6 stickers

😭

[tawny bough]

barely scraping by oh no

wait so every face card gives 2 100% of the time with buisiness

[jagged cliff]

You'll make it, I believe

[jagged cliff]

Yes

[tawny bough]

saved

[wintry ice]

yea oops is pretty nice for that

[pale wolf]

holy

[cloud sinew]

you have needle and eye defense with acrobat too, goated

[jagged cliff]

Cavendish the goat

[tawny bough]

cavendih*

[alpine basalt]

bro I found an ecto too.... this would be 7 stickers if it was only a gs run

[pale wolf]

https://www.balatrodle.com/ spoilers in 3

[ionic gorge]

My lord

[alpine basalt]

how does it work

[pale wolf]

everything is on the site

[tawny bough]

yum

honestly trading card is #1 on my joker list

[fervent wolf]

Only 3 jokers needed

[jagged cliff]

Chicot

[pale wolf]

probably only 2 or 1 tbh

[ionic gorge]

That would have been nice too

But I got trib

[jagged cliff]

I love seeing him early game

[alpine basalt]

how do you spoiler an image

[jagged cliff]

Nice

[ionic gorge]

I'm flabbergasted tho, what are the odds

[nova mantle]

i went broke for this joker pack and holyyy was it worth it

[cloud sinew]

before you send the message with the image there's an eye symbol, you click that and you can spoiler

[pale wolf]

Not on mobile

You have to long press on the image thumbnail

once you select it to be sent

[cloud sinew]

ty

[jagged cliff]

0.6% or something

[unreal iron]

vagabond obelisk yeah just win gang

[tawny bough]

barely scraping by yet again 😓

[unreal iron]

go ahead

[alpine basalt]

man it does not want to send any images

I got it in 2

||Trading Card was my First Guess||

[pale wolf]

That's pretty lucky

[unreal iron]

the humble lucky cat:

🐱

[tame cobalt]

I also got it in 3, I started with 8 ball and then marble

[tawny bough]

might have to kill trading card for ts

[alpine basalt]

NO THIS COULD"VE BEEN A SELTZER STICKER IF I WAS ON GS

[hasty harness]

doesnt get much better

[unreal iron]

i dont think you even benefit from trading card at this point right

just scale grimbo more trust

[tawny bough]

its just the econ rlly

[cloud sinew]

Balatrodle (spoilers) in 3

[tame cobalt]

grimbo never lets you down

[unreal iron]

didnt even spoiler the image smh...

[cloud sinew]

I did

[alpine basalt]

I feel ike the cost and rarity are kinda redundant

[pale wolf]

yes she did

[alpine basalt]

they did

[fiery nymph]

sell everything double obelisk

[unreal iron]

am i crazy

[cloud sinew]

cost and rarity are very important actually

[unreal iron]

it literally didnt

lemme just

[cloud sinew]

there's a setting on discord to automatically reveal spoilers

[pale wolf]

I was going to say I feel like your first guess is sub-optimal

[alpine basalt]

well for uncommon +

[cloud sinew]

you might have that enabled

[tame cobalt]

Cost isn't the same across rarities

[unreal iron]

i am crazy

[tawny bough]

blue joker saved me for once

[cloud sinew]

how

[tame cobalt]

Bloker

[unreal iron]

we love chips

[hasty harness]

nevermind

[shell dagger]

What’s grimbo at

[hasty harness]

it got better

[tawny bough]

43

eek

[heady narwhal]

my favorite balatrodle first guess is ceremonial dagger

[alpine basalt]

rare amber acorn being a hard boss (theres a throwback and bp somewhere in here)

[pale wolf]

|| it tells you less information about the uncommon Jokers cheaper, and some of the cheap rare Jokers i think||

[tawny bough]

yayayay

[heady narwhal]

or trousers or erosion i guess

[pale wolf]

|| and some of the expensive Commons too||

[rugged pecan]

Sell the red guy for the blue one right?

[tawny bough]

rip blue joker loll

[unreal iron]

you have chicot whar

[rugged pecan]

Yeah that guy goes doesn’t he?

[unreal iron]

also ew bloodstone

[rugged pecan]

Best I could find so far

[unreal iron]

get a load of this guy

[pale wolf]

|| what I mean is that six is worse than seven||

[unreal iron]

no keep chicot

theres no point in selling him if its a win

[rugged pecan]

But like luchador frees up the spot 🧠

[unreal iron]

that does not make sense

[cloud sinew]

i would guess that going for the median price within the rarity is what you want to do, and 6 is the median for uncommons im pretty sure

[unreal iron]

it really doesnt

[rugged pecan]

I’m cooking bro trust me

(I am not being serious)

[tawny bough]

i think i lose cuz i accidentally played 4 cards idk if that counts towards the card sharp if it doesnt i lost

[violet bear]

Goddamn

[heady narwhal]

i feel like being able to distinguish between $5 and $6 uncommons is pretty important

[pale wolf]

if there were like thousands of Jokers I think that would be a valid method but there's few enough that going one more dollar in sell price reveals more information I believe

[tawny bough]

nvm it counted i won yippeee

[pale wolf]

I'll have to go back and look at it myself again

[cloud sinew]

thats a very vibes based response in a purely analytical game which makes me less receptive to this information

[heady narwhal]

i think $5 might also be a valid pick?

[tawny bough]

honestllyyyyy

[pale wolf]

well I'm currently driving so I can't exactly get the analysis, I analyzed it before and I'm relaying my memory of it

[coarse condor]

no…..

[cloud sinew]

get off your damn phone

[hasty harness]

gold stake build go brrrr

[coarse condor]

where were u when run was kill

[tawny bough]

thoughts?

[coarse condor]

i was at work eating hot chip and playing Balatro

then forgor oblisk

[cloud sinew]

i was charge my phone and lie and campfire

[tawny bough]

oh shit thats baddddddd

i need ALL of my jokers to score

[coarse condor]

no……….

[coarse condor]

negative jimbo in the pocket:

[tawny bough]

negative cavendih

[coarse condor]

remove it

[violet bear]

Sell your phone for 0.25x

[ionic gorge]

Seed btw

[tawny bough]

okay 400k just gotta hope that boss blocks a useless 6th joker on the final hand of the round

[coarse condor]

damn that was gonna be a nasty run. i had blueprint and lucky cat at 14.5x

[tawny bough]

wait bruh my econ is so cooked

[coarse condor]

obelisk was at 10x before i fkd up

[coarse condor]

can still afford credit card 🔥

[tranquil steppe]

Nanners!!!!!!

[tawny bough]

alr gg

[coarse condor]

f

[tawny bough]

i got completely fucked over this anty.....

[potent tree]

chat do i reroll and risk hitting VV (fullhouse level 20, cat 3.5x, trousers at 70+)

[tawny bough]

like completely

[cloud sinew]

uhhhh

do the cards scoring matter

[tawny bough]

perfect pair joker deck and i get fucking fucked last anti AGhhh

[cloud sinew]

and do they matter more than 3x blind size

[twin lantern]

ONLY DECK I HAVE LEFT FOR GOLD STAKE IS ABANDONED DECK

[potent tree]

if mult hits it basically guarantees a oneshot of blinds except VV

[twin lantern]

[coarse condor]

gl, my personal fav deck

[twin lantern]

i accidentally reset my obelisk on the ante 8 boss blind and still won im so happy

[potent tree]

but i don't wanna sell dna so i can sticker

[heady narwhal]

seems like you must be good enough without selling?

[bleak seal]

I've done that before it's so dreadful

[cloud sinew]

you have 42 base mult and 70+ on trousers, i dont think you need mult to hit

[heady narwhal]

unless relying on glass

[cloud sinew]

also

can always sell DNA as its a dead slot rn

[potent tree]

i have 0 glass it's entirely lucky

[cloud sinew]

against leaf, i mean

[potent tree]

stickering is my goal rn

[heady narwhal]

sticker

[cloud sinew]

oh

you should be fine though

i think vessel is worse than leaf there

[potent tree]

eh i guess i can wait on it yes

[heady narwhal]

i mean like. if every lucky hits it's less than 2x mult right

[cloud sinew]

considering you have like 100+ mult which is card agnostic

[heady narwhal]

(aside from cat scaling)

[cloud sinew]

uhhhh

[tranquil steppe]

Risk it 4 da biscuit dawg

[cloud sinew]

+100 and then another +1.25x on cat

which is a big more than 2x to total score but like

[heady narwhal]

and you'd need it to be more than 3x mult to justify doing vessel

[cloud sinew]

the odds of that are very low

[pale wolf]

prove it

[potent tree]

ok we good.

now just 6 stickers to go

conveniently one of them is sixth sense.

[tame cobalt]

Spare trousers is such a good card

[wintry ice]

playing full house with pants is an interesting decision

[tranquil steppe]

See I told you

[potent tree]

yeah DNA nearly cost me in the end. i had a flush house drawn but luckily had discards

[summer jay]

I took a financial literacy class so this situation is funny asf cuz of what I was taught about credit companies

[twin lantern]

U didnt have flash card gold stickered?

[potent tree]

nope lmao

[twin lantern]

I love flash card bc i reroll a lot anyways

[potent tree]

to be obtained Gold Stickers
Dusk (P)
Sixth Sense (N)
Luchador (O)
Stone Jimbo (N)
Trading Card (O)
Showman (G)

[inland temple]

my brain is too modded to talk

[twin lantern]

best of luck twin

also update ur nick

[potent tree]

i just did

[twin lantern]

wish me luck on my c++ journey

[potent tree]

but wait, i can't 100% the game yet

i still need tiny hands...

[twin lantern]

😭

[potent tree]

and my ass is not doing abandoned again. i'm gonna bank it all on perkeo ghost deck

[twin lantern]

i hate abandoned deck

[slate lance]

Just beat erratic goldstake and got 4 new stickers

Everything but holo

[potent tree]

average holo w

[cloud sinew]

no sources of retriggers means at most 5 scores a hand, 1/15 for $20 and 1/5 for +20 means that the odds of getting 5 hits is (1/15 + 1/5)^5 which is 0.13%

[potent tree]

troubadour i don't remember how i gold stickered ngl

[robust lance]

Hit the road carry

[slate lance]

Fr ive won goldstake with him like 3 times :3

[potent tree]

also what happens if judgment generates troubadour when you have 1 hand left in a round

[cloud sinew]

troub lowers your hand on blind select funnily enough so its just +2 handsize with no direct downside

[slate lance]

Holo was better than hit the road at the end but defo it got me through the first 5 ish antes

[potent tree]

noted. i'll have to consider that for future runs

[cloud sinew]

its not something ive ever encountered naturally sadly

[potent tree]

handsize that big can be free ouija material

[cloud sinew]

if you manage to get a discard joker in-round then it adds to your discards which is a way to discard with burglar too

[slate lance]

No need for ouija when u got a decent erratic deck

I started with maybe 7 ish jacis

Jack's

[potent tree]

the 10 of spades seed:

[cloud sinew]

also selling a -handsize joker will draw as many cards as it removed from your handsize even if youre at max, so like

if i had 8 handsize and 8 cards in hand, got a stuntman, then sold a stuntman

[nova mantle]

i found this fella on the last shop should i swap it with vaga for the sticker?

[cloud sinew]

id have 10/8

[slate lance]

Isnt that like an actual code glitch tho since everythings holographic

[cloud sinew]

thats only one of the seeds, not every 10 of spades seeds has that

[nova mantle]

quite literally lol

[cloud sinew]

but yes it is a bug that causes it

[potent tree]

nah there's one without the bug ye

[cloud sinew]

its a flaw in the PRNG

[slate lance]

I thought they were talking abt that one cus i thought it was the most famous 😭 sorry

[nova mantle]

aight ill gold sticker cavendish

[potent tree]

cav is one of if not the best non scaling xmults

[cloud sinew]

every bugged seed like that ends at ante 10 which is interesting too

[nova mantle]

man its been 2 times where im gonna gold sticker vaga and a rarer joker appears and i js gotta take it

[cloud sinew]

the all rare (which is really all burnt/all eris seed) "ends" at ante 10, the all holographic seed "ends" at ante 10, etc

[tranquil steppe]

You can’t kill bus or egg or swash I’m assuming?

[nova mantle]

it already deserves it for all the work it has put

[potent tree]

egg is eternal so def not that

[tranquil steppe]

lol duh

[potent tree]

eggbuckler is pretty powerful for base mult

[pale wolf]

I would hit that

[potent tree]

not sure what RTB is at

[nova mantle]

ill sell egg youre right

thanks

[cloud sinew]

can you afford to drop swash?

[potent tree]

if i could post a gif for this i would

[proper flame]

Conditionless x3 mult is very good. Basically a free win on ante 8 low stake runs

[tranquil steppe]

Egg on my face lol

[proper flame]

Plus gros Michel is a decent non scaling + mult so the prerequisites for cavendish isn’t even bad

+15 mult every hand is good early

[cloud sinew]

gros michel my beloved

[pale wolf]

gros doesn't exist in my grocery

[nova mantle]

would be goated if it didnt took 2 slots

[robust lance]

Then make it exist

[nova mantle]

i prefer gift card over egg since you can sell it when you got enough mult and it gives +5 instead of 3

[cloud sinew]

misinformation smh if you play a 3oak with no chips from cards (debuffed) then it scores 540

[unreal fractal]

do I replace supernova with driver's license? (supernova is at 46 mult with flush)

[cloud sinew]

any 3oak with scoring cards + gros michel does beat every blind of ante 1 though yes

[empty merlin]

I’m still trying to unlock jokers, is there a best way to win a run with 12 rounds or less? 😂

[mortal nimbus]

the +46 from supernova activates after the 8x from photograph, so it likely isn't adding that much

[cloud sinew]

depends on the base mult

but +46 is very unlikely to do much by a11

[nova mantle]

try and find a throwback early, thats literally half of the challenge lol

[mortal nimbus]

it does, but by ante 11 it should be something above 4

[empty merlin]

Thank you 🙏

[nova mantle]

youre welcome lad

[unreal fractal]

so I should replace it with driver's license? flush is 56 base mult

[cloud sinew]

absolutely replace supernova there

[empty merlin]

Is there a best deck to use to try complete this aha

[unreal fractal]

I'm barely scraping by with glass

thankss

[nova mantle]

mmmh, maybe yellow for the 10 extra dollars at the start so you can buy something to hold you up early game

[naive jolt]

The recipe to get a chonky cat

[potent tree]

y'all of these which would be easiest to build around

[empty merlin]

Appreciate it mate, gonna give it a go

[nova mantle]

theres no deck really favored for this challenge tho, is mostly a matter of trial and error
it takes lots of luck, so good luck

[unreal fractal]

well thanks anyway

[wintry ice]

trading card is trading card

stone jimbo is a high priority due to being an enhancement uncommon

[empty merlin]

🤝

[cloud sinew]

in order of priority imo;
Stone > Showman > Luchador > Sixth Sense > Dusk > Trading Card

all uncommons means that like

it might be worth running anaglyph and going for an uncommon skip

[wintry ice]

mayb

[potent tree]

true