🕹・game-discussion

[shell seal]

his econ 🥀

[smoky merlin]

just returning the favor

[heavy heron]

4oak is just not enough

[spiral cairn]

oh yeah my bad bro

[brittle tendon]

I got 3 tribs and died cause of shit draws

[patent topaz]

bro what should I get

[heavy heron]

but wait like what if you go two pairs? lemme think

[spiral cairn]

can i ask you a question

vonne

[smoky merlin]

sure

[spiral cairn]

why cant i send stickers

but i can ping the mod role

[cosmic sun]

gah damn bro you got 2 answers we just didnt ping reply you

[smoky merlin]

because they are disabled

[cosmic sun]

half joker

[shy abyss]

what are the hand levels avery

[spiral cairn]

but y

[warped wave]

11S is the draw

[white zodiac]

because we're not civil

[smoky merlin]

because localthunk said so

[spiral cairn]

people keep talking about the incident

[cedar shell]

you should get good

[dense stag]

alright that part of day to play balatro instead of working on things

[spiral cairn]

what is this incident

[patent topaz]

Ok

[tawdry burrow]

can you not understand a no

hoooooo

[heavy heron]

i mean like...

you'd need a lot of two pairs

i'm not sure i'm using this site correctly

[warped wave]

to risky right?

[heavy heron]

i mean here's the thing

[heavy heron]

your flush five is too unrealistic atp imo

4oak is more realistic, but that's not enough

at all

so like

[warped wave]

even after card sharp sell?

[heavy heron]

you have a 52 card deck

i don't think you're drawing your flush five

it's your call, really

[rancid widget]

"here win" ass game

[shy abyss]

do you have chips on any hand

[heavy heron]

you don't sell anything

in this scenario

[heavy heron]

in this scenario, you sell card sharp and find flush five

both win, it's your call what you think is better

safer play is to spam two pairs

and sell nothing

[warped wave]

If I go debuffed two pair, then play a blueprint copying card sharp, can I win?

[rancid widget]

do i need invis here

[heavy heron]

oh wait

wait hold on

they're debuffed

hold on

[warped wave]

nevermind then...

[heavy heron]

debuffed isn't enough

[rancid widget]

?

[heavy heron]

wow i can't believe you're at a level 1 two pair

i think flush five is your play? maybe?

[cosmic sun]

that's optimal on pants

[heavy heron]

and sell card sharp

[warped wave]

whats the call

[heavy heron]

wait let me look at your deck again

[tawdry burrow]

how do i make card sharp proc in the balatro calculator

[cosmic sun]

the lower the uranus level the more two pairs you can squeeze out of pants

[cosmic sun]

the more mult you get from pants

[heavy heron]

is it unrealistic to say you can card sharp two 4oaks?

you have a lot of 2s and aces

what's your misprint telling you?

[shell seal]

go to hands and mark this

[dense stag]

tfw i got photochad on abandoned deck 💔💔💔

[shy abyss]

is the 70k two pair pre card sharp

[warped wave]

11S

[heavy heron]

jack... not good

[warped wave]

yeah.

[heavy heron]

okay so

i see 2 plays

[tawdry burrow]

i see i see

[ocean lily]

any tips for this challange

[rancid widget]

help i am fucking stupid my bp is negative

[heavy heron]

because it's clear two pair spamming won't win here

[cosmic sun]

pair

[shell seal]

good luck

and pair

[cosmic sun]

the pair goes in the square hole

[heavy heron]

@warped wave your first play is to sell card sharp and go all on in finding the flush five and copy glass ace

your second play is to try and find two 4oaks, preferably the 2s first then the 4s after, while copying glass

[cosmic sun]

the pair goes in the circle hole

[shell seal]

whats the problem?

[heavy heron]

it's a hail mary bro

[warped wave]

the issue with the first play is i only have 5 aces

that will be tough

[pale wolf]

You can flip the cards over using pretty much any tarot card to see what they are if you have to, and you can use the different sort buttons to extrapolate which cards are which a lot of the time

[heavy heron]

yeah, i'm not sure

[pale wolf]

otherwise x-ray vision is pretty tame challenge

[heavy heron]

you have 6 aces

[warped wave]

the issue with the second, lets say I have three aces and three 2s in hand, I'll have to discard a 2 or an aces to get the four of a kind. If I have to discard 2 aces, my chances would be low

oh ok

but still

low chance

[heavy heron]

look even a 5 of a kind wins

[warped wave]

and I may not draw the glass one as well

[heavy heron]

i agree

that's the problem, hand size

i think aces is your hail mary... i don't see a better option

[warped wave]

so five of a kind?

[heavy heron]

5 of a kind survives

it's only 398k

so make sure you score

2k

minimum, prior

[warped wave]

do I immediately sell cardsharp?

[urban wren]

Tarot merchant isn’t worth in naneinf attempts right?

[heavy heron]

i wouldn't say immediately, no harm in discarding/playing hands first

but also

[eternal anchor]

damn wall :/

[cosmic sun]

finding jokers matter more than tarots there

[heavy heron]

if you think the debuffs will hurt your scores (debuffed fibonacci)

then yes sell it right away

[zinc karma]

Sure

[urban wren]

Yea but I need vouchers

[shell seal]

fib and the chips

[warped wave]

should i sell it now so i can play hand that guarantees the 2k?

[inland temple]

oops wrong chat

[cosmic sun]

the deck

[urban wren]

I’m searching for antimatter

[heavy heron]

i think most hands guarantee 2k

[zinc karma]

The money

[heavy heron]

but yes might as well i think

[cosmic sun]

🔑 jingle jangle

[urban wren]

I’ve got retcon but no blank/antimatter

[heavy heron]

just look for your aces and pray

OR

OR

or your two's

[warped wave]

...

[heavy heron]

oh dude

[cosmic sun]

2 hands, dig for last aces

[warped wave]

general, this may be over

[heavy heron]

just pray

[cyan ocean]

i love my double gros michel

[warped wave]

its been great serving under you

[icy frigate]

gg to this run, i should've picked up the dusk earlier

[warped wave]

lets run it

[cosmic sun]

next time level mercury

[warped wave]

.....................

[cosmic sun]

real pants planet

[heavy heron]

damn

[fading cobalt]

They're brainstorming to a level we cant

[heavy heron]

gg..

[brittle tendon]

You sold X3 mult

Why

[cosmic sun]

so how does he die here

[heavy heron]

because it didn't win, we did the math

[full iris]

this game gets so much better when you stop tkaing photochad

[brittle tendon]

Still dumb

Idc

[heavy heron]

card sharp does nothing if your cards are debuffed and fib isn't working (in this case)

[shell seal]

gg

[modest spade]

Bro

Card Sharp works on debuffed cards

[brittle tendon]

Then sell fib

[heavy heron]

bro

i know

[cosmic sun]

okay let's talk about the lack of planets on mercury

[cyan ocean]

and there goes one of them 3:

[fading cobalt]

It gets best when you learn how to play builds based on what you get not on what you want

[heavy heron]

but card sharp does nothing if your base mult is 3

do the math

you need base mult first

[shell seal]

the score is not enough

[cosmic sun]

that build would've won with pairs btw

[warped wave]

it was card sharp. I would have to play debuffed two pair, then sell fibonacci, then I would have to draw three consecutive good two pairs.

[heavy heron]

and the trousers isn't enough

[safe moat]

Hello people

[white zodiac]

um where is sharpy

[modest spade]

Right, fair enough

[full iris]

so far i found that scaling is what wins games

[cosmic sun]

tf was pants at

[brittle tendon]

I still think it's dumb

[fading cobalt]

Yep

[shell seal]

why

[full iris]

also resilient builds like not basing yourself on face cards when u cant defend against a debuff boss

[cosmic sun]

the issue is no planet levels

[warped wave]

attempt 331 begins

[cosmic sun]

so they had to gamble

[heavy heron]

we did the math, sharp wasn't enough

[safe moat]

Berugiiwafuru?

[heavy heron]

it was flush five/5oak glass or nothing

[brittle tendon]

Could have at least tried doing it without fib

[safe moat]

What does that mean

[brittle tendon]

5oak?

Bruh

[white zodiac]

yeah i had a lot of those on my recent trip

[heavy heron]

yes bruh

[warped wave]

or 2 4oak of aces and 2s

[heavy heron]

which was unrealistic

[shell seal]

I did try with balatro calculator, it wasnt enough even with card sharp online

[safe moat]

Belgian Waffle?

[white zodiac]

yeah

[brittle tendon]

Eh

[white zodiac]

the ones you get at 7/11

or lawson

[safe moat]

i see

I’m just happy I read that correctly

[cosmic sun]

@warped wave try pairs with builds like that next time, or in general, so you don't have to gamble that hard again

[brittle tendon]

Not every run is a pairs build

[cosmic sun]

that one absolutely was

pants is for pairs foo

[cosmic sun]

DUO + Card Sharp

[random ice]

Lmao didn't even mean to one shot

[brittle tendon]

Why is glass not at the front?

[safe moat]

I wanna learn how to straight fix but it’s probably the hardest deck fix to fully start

[white zodiac]

do you have the seed, gonna try something

[cosmic sun]

that shit was itching for mercury levels

[rancid widget]

fuck💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[warped wave]

im gonna be honest. I only play flushes because pairs and two pair never seem to get much steam in my perspective. I've heard they're the best but I have yet to figure it out

[shell seal]

for the lack of chips

[heavy heron]

i go flushes too LOOLL

[cosmic sun]

"Not every run is pairs" is semantics because it's probably 99% pairs

[heavy heron]

but also

[dense stag]

yay (im not using sleeves rn)

[brittle tendon]

Get fucked bro

[warped wave]

no sry

[white zodiac]

2 2oak has a lot more value in the harder decks

[heavy heron]

next time, please try to get some levels if you can

you had 0 chips

two pair would've won if you had some levels

[white zodiac]

wot

[heavy heron]

level 1 two pair isn't enough

[cosmic sun]

It needs planets and joker support, something you should already be doing, the reason why people run pairs is because it is a consistent hand to get.

[safe moat]

? Two pair

[brittle tendon]

Too bad bro doesn't know how to do econ

[white zodiac]

yeah 2 2oak

[rancid widget]

nuh uh

[safe moat]

I love two pair

[shell seal]

2o2oak

[heavy heron]

it happens, no need to put it like that

[cosmic sun]

Pairs would've easily won you that game with that joker setup

[white zodiac]

i could’ve really used that seed

[brittle tendon]

Wow I hope something stupid happens now and you die

[white zodiac]

for a demonstration

[heavy heron]

why? to beat it?

i mean every seed is beatable

[cosmic sun]

For pants you spam as many two pairs as possible even if you don't one shot, so pants can actually scale

[white zodiac]

yeah

[safe moat]

It’s probably the best hand that hits most homers

[white zodiac]

this has not been confirmed

[cosmic sun]

then you get it high enough to swap to pairs later

[warped wave]

I think Im just a broken man over here after having white stake on four of my decks and every other deck no stake, as well as the only deck I play being black deck. I've had 330 runs and that was the only one I have had succes on. sigh*. The hunt continues

[heavy heron]

if the mathematically impossible seed was possible to beat, any seed is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfkjNoJaKgA&pp=ygUXYmFsYXRybyBpbXBvc3NpYmxlIHNlZWQ%3D

[safe moat]

Two pair is probably the best hand

[white zodiac]

did you count every single one of your lost runs

[heavy heron]

make sure you're taking notes on where you're going wrong

that's how you do better

[full iris]

pairs mog

[heavy heron]

every time you lose, ponder what you could've done to circumvent that

[warped wave]

I have a paper next to me and I update the number.

[white zodiac]

more bugged seeds have yet to be discovered

[white zodiac]

oh fun

[heavy heron]

well if the only seeds that are impossible are the bugged ones, then that makes every other possible

[white zodiac]

crimson bean is relatively new just fyi

was*

and glass bug but that one is different for multi

[shell seal]

the problem of induction lol

[white zodiac]

yeah

[warped wave]

thoughts?

[white zodiac]

i’m gonna be shown the 1 seed in the 2,821,109,907,456 where it becomes unwinnable

[heavy heron]

i mean most people would take the ice cream but if you're confident i'd take the dagger

i love dagger

[white zodiac]

cream

[lyric shore]

i wouldnt be confident there

[cosmic sun]

ice cream into another multer

[shell seal]

#🃏・off-topic

[silent veldt]

me when i enter the confidence draining room

[vestal fern]

this is not balatro

also tfym sigma skibidi

[vocal rose]

ice cream for scoring since black deck

[cyan ocean]

ouija is going to make them all 2s should i do it and then try to get wee

[silent veldt]

idk man

[languid pecan]

Do you even live

[silent veldt]

just go with trance or sum

[cyan ocean]

what does this even mean

[languid pecan]

Yeah just take trance

[urban wren]

Can I get a little help w my scoring setup? 3 copy jokers, 1 baron 1 mime and red seal gold cards. Whats optimal copying here?

[patent topaz]

I am going to crash out

[languid pecan]

It means would you even live if you took ouija since you kill your econ and make scholar useless

[patent topaz]

I am on a 40 losing streak

[cyan ocean]

i dont really care im ante 2

[languid pecan]

Ante 3

[cyan ocean]

3

yeah

still

close enough

[languid pecan]

Id take trance here

[cyan ocean]

sure

i already did

[safe moat]

I really think ride the bus is horrendous

[long oxide]

Do I take even though temp

For photo

[sand bramble]

does glass have a higher chance of breaking the more times its retriggered or is it only a 1 time check

[lyric shore]

once

[sand bramble]

k ty

[cyan ocean]

once

[cosmic sun]

nvm chat they're that bad

[dire sapphire]

once

[safe moat]

This is a genuine take

[cosmic sun]

bus good

[dire sapphire]

i dont like bus

[safe moat]

I’m not baiting I genuinely think it’s worst than the other commons

[sand bramble]

different question why is your blueprint on lusty

[dire sapphire]

green joker.

[safe moat]

That scale when playing hands

I love green joker

[dire sapphire]

Easier to play no faces than not discard

[sand bramble]

also finn this is really bad bait

[cosmic sun]

are you sure you don't just have an over reliance on faces

[sand bramble]

please get better

[safe moat]

I strongly disagree

[tawdry burrow]

ride the bus is literally free scaling in abandoned deck

[sudden skiff]

What should i do

[dire sapphire]

i dont rely on face cards

[white zodiac]

any*

[safe moat]

It’s not bait I genuinely think ride the bait is awful

[dire sapphire]

Sell the graph and hope for trib

[safe moat]

Neither do i

[heavy heron]

agreed

i never take bus

[white zodiac]

you weren’t supposed to say that

[sand bramble]

???

[safe moat]

Yeah

[heavy heron]

way better scaling options

[sand bramble]

no if anything sell the lucky cat ???

😭

[sudden skiff]

we ball

[heavy heron]

i mean if you play pairs because what else would you do, then yea bus is good

[sand bramble]

@sudden skiff

!

[sudden skiff]

oh thats a goo one too

[safe moat]

Supernova and Green joker are so much better

[rancid widget]

i don't think i need invis here right

[sudden skiff]

lucky cat only at x6

[sand bramble]

yeah no

ur lucky cat is the thing that should go if u wanna gamble on it

[safe moat]

Actually super nova is lower than green joker

[sand bramble]

photograph should be ur failsafe in case its like

[heavy heron]

i mean hallucination isn’t necessarily that important this late in

[sand bramble]

a yorick lol

or canio

[heavy heron]

you should have a good deck already

[cosmic sun]

ah yes the joker that locks you out of obelisk and playing slow to use all your hands is somehow better

[heavy heron]

you need scoring now

[sudden skiff]

ts the deck

[heavy heron]

so, like, i’d sell hallucination for invisible

[lyric shore]

can you explain it

[cosmic sun]

with bus and grimbo you can use other hands and still scale them

[rancid widget]

well i do have a decent deck but i would want to have more red seals

[safe moat]

I said I think supernovas worse

[cosmic sun]

with nova there's a chance you win too fast early and slow down nova

[safe moat]

Yeah

[cosmic sun]

nova is not better than bus big dawg

[heavy heron]

i’m sure you can find ways to get deaths other than hallucination

2 tarots a shop?

worth more than invisible?

[sudden skiff]

hell nah

[sand bramble]

nah perkeo is good

[rancid widget]

4, i have bp

[white zodiac]

30% perishable :3

[sand bramble]

deck fixing]

[safe moat]

I think green joker is best scaled

[sand bramble]

get a death and ur good

also u have brainstorm too

[heavy heron]

okay so 4, i mean

it’s your call

[white zodiac]

bus is better for digging value earlier

green has slightly better versatility later

at the expense of digging value early

[heavy heron]

i just realized both green deck and green joker de-incentivize discarding

[shell dagger]

supernova makes you sad when you see the eye and obelisk

[safe moat]

I haven’t really played digging type builds so yeah that’s a good point

[sand bramble]

why are you guys argueing over this

[shell dagger]

it’s in the name

[sand bramble]

every joker has its own use and can be really good depending on the situation

[heavy heron]

what does the color green mean in terms of discards though?

[safe moat]

Loyalty card

[sand bramble]

being green

[cosmic sun]

yeah like the old adage, when I wanna lose I pick showman

[sand bramble]

like not being wasteful

[white zodiac]

consistency argument

[heavy heron]

that’s awesome

[shell dagger]

green like recycling like not wasting like not discarding

[sand bramble]

yes including loyalty card

[white zodiac]

which one is more consistent

[cosmic sun]

loyalty dont even hit when you want it to sometimes

acrobat mogs

[safe moat]

Loyalty cards uses is very slim

[shell dagger]

loyalty card goat (i have 7 hands)

[sand bramble]

yeah not if you dont play around it

[white zodiac]

i’m not gonna glaze showman because he helped me win one game

[heavy heron]

loyalty card if you have 6+ hands

[plucky shuttle]

crazy shop pull without the voucher

[heavy heron]

that’s it

[lyric shore]

some are clearly better than others (like bus over nova)

[pale wolf]

loyalty card can be used

[fading cobalt]

Today I learnt that balatro twitch viewers are desperate to call out misplays, I wonder if this is the same thing for majority of the balatro community

[spiral cairn]

what is the best deck to beat all the stakes

[heavy heron]

grab stuntman you win

[sand bramble]

every joker has its own use case, none of this is worth arguing over 😭

[heavy heron]

you got obelisk already

[spiral cairn]

ive been stuck on black for a while

[safe moat]

Easiest is prolly checkered

[heavy heron]

as long as it’s set up already, you win

[sand bramble]

nope!

it depends

[spiral cairn]

yeah thought so

[rancid widget]

i mean SURELY it won't hit oops right

[plucky shuttle]

i win regardless lol. obelisk is at nearly 5x and drivers license is online

[heavy heron]

you’re chillin

[pale wolf]

its called "streaming" and its hosting a public chatbox under a box that shows you playing a game

anybody expecting anything different is out of their mind

[spiral cairn]

how do people get rid of so many cards from their deck??

[thick haven]

Tried the ALEEB seed and cooked

[rancid widget]

it didn't but i'd rather if it hit sock or bp

[pale wolf]

income and tarot generation

using glass

[thick haven]

Idol didnt hit :(

[pale wolf]

etc

[safe moat]

I’ve kept the issue consistently ok higher stakes (even though I’m almost C+ finally) of not being able to just keep money

[valid abyss]

those who bloodstone

[cosmic sun]

the funny thing is you don't get to choose but we can still talk about how nova is worse most of the time instead of copping out and saying everything is situational

[fading cobalt]

Yeah but people calling out misplays is subjective to the kind of game you play and balatro falls right into that category

[thick haven]

Holy bloodstone

[sand bramble]

anyways peep the run (this is with deck sleeves mod so yeah it isnt vanilla this run is to just wake me up lol)

[heavy heron]

yea everybody builds their ego off this single player card game and trashes on others that say something violating what they know about the game (1 person thinks obelisk is good, 1 person thinks obelisk is bad, you have an argument)

it’s quite interesting

[urban wren]

21 antes, no ecto no antimatter lmao

[safe moat]

There are some cards I’ve learned to genuinely think are good

[cosmic sun]

you have a weird headcanon

[safe moat]

But some I definitely think I just not good

Like flower pot and loyalty card

[heavy heron]

thank you

[safe moat]

And dusk

[cosmic sun]

erm everyone has an ego clearly...

[safe moat]

But that may just be an experience thing rn

[pale wolf]

the take that "nothing is better than anything else because there might be a situation where the bad thing is actually better" is hilarious but 100% disingenuous

[sand bramble]

...but thats just true??

[fading cobalt]

Well said bro

[pale wolf]

its the argument you would make when you are trolling

[safe moat]

Not exactly

[warped wave]

I think I'm back

[heavy heron]

indeed everybody has an ego but you can still be open to opposing views, no? i’m just saying that in this community, it’s quite rare

[pale wolf]

It's a stupid take and doesn't add anything to any conversation

[lyric shore]

things are more applicable than others

[sand bramble]

like everything depends on what you're given

[brave goblet]

💔

[fading cobalt]

Having an ego and having a high toxic ego are two different things

[pale wolf]

Yes there's a situation where showman is a better take than blackboard, but if you actually use that as a point for why showman isn't actually worse than blackboard, you're just being willfully ignorant

[cosmic sun]

I think I would rather have discussions in good faith than be jaded like that, js

[safe moat]

Exactly there are some cards that have more synergies and are easier to implement than others

[sudden skiff]

Gang

[heavy heron]

yes, some things are objectively better than others, but i do agree that everything depends on your situation

[heavy heron]

so let me rephrase; many people here carry the latter, not the former

[fading cobalt]

Sell buskin

[sudden skiff]

okie

[plucky shuttle]

was that a natty negative jimbo?

[fading cobalt]

Yes I understood what you meant

[safe moat]

But that’s not an excuse for some things being genuinely awful

[pale wolf]

glass

[final garden]

do i take the obelisk here my high card is at 20 played hand

[pale wolf]

thats glass jimbo

[cosmic sun]

but not all discussions are like that, especially on this server lmao

[sand bramble]

(none are)

[silent veldt]

sand when it gets molten

[plucky shuttle]

oh shit it is

whoops

[safe moat]

Some are genuinely awful

[heavy heron]

you don’t need an “excuse” to like anything in this game like i can tell everybody scholar is amazing, i don’t need an excuse to play it now do i? people can have opinions

[pale wolf]

You can tell because it's translucent, and also glass Joker doesn't have a shadow

[cosmic sun]

if you have a bone to pick then take it out on roffle's lobomite chat or something

[sand bramble]

it depends on the situation :p

[pale wolf]

yeah anthrax is bad for you, but sometimes it's better for you than a nuclear explosion, so it's actually situational

[plucky shuttle]

yeah i see it now. looking at a small screen from afar and wasnt looking at the finer details hehe

[still frost]

Actually real

[safe moat]

Not exactly

[eternal anchor]

game discussion is serious! serious! serious!

[still frost]

Anthrax any%

[cosmic sun]

situational gotta be the worst addition to game discourse fr

[sand bramble]

what?

[still frost]

Better than nuclear radiation poisoning

[sand bramble]

that has nothing to do with my point

[pale wolf]

I'm making your point with a different category to show how unproductive it is

[sand bramble]

no you're exaggerating the hell out of it

[white zodiac]

humanity extinction tier list

[silent veldt]

abraham

[pale wolf]

explain what's wrong about my statement

[sand bramble]

to where it loses all meaning that it once had

[pale wolf]

there is no meaning in your statement to begin with

actually it has more meaning than a bunch of random key mashing so actually it's situationally meaningful

[sand bramble]

???

[silent veldt]

lincoln

[cosmic sun]

so like calling everything situational with no nuance

[heavy heron]

there is; it defends a point

[white zodiac]

what was the point

again

[heavy heron]

you’ve made a statement that defends anthrax

that’s your point

[pale wolf]

"You can't compare any two Jokers because there are situations where one will always be better than the other"

[heavy heron]

what else would it be

[white zodiac]

sorry i’m jogging and on my phone rn

[eternal anchor]

bro is outside 🫡

[sand bramble]

im not saying you cant entirely compare 2 jokers

???

why are you exaggerating everything im saying

[pale wolf]

sorry, "you can't make general statements on the viability of Jokers because there niche situations for every combination that would make the evaluation useless"

[heavy heron]

(even though this is true to some decent extent)

[plucky shuttle]

holy lmaoo. the conversation has been going on so long neither person has no clue what they are arguing about

[turbid halo]

I hope someone mods a joker with the kid named finger

[cosmic sun]

I don't think you do either I fear

[white zodiac]

is this where it all started

[sand bramble]

...yeah viability depends on the type of run you're doing??????

[eternal anchor]

this is the problem with Discord and fast-paced instant conversation

[cosmic sun]

don't need the reddit ahh comment

[white zodiac]

this is a nothing statement

[vocal rose]

idol isn’t viable

[still frost]

I think it's fine to compare jokers but people saying "every joker has a situation" do need to acknowledge that just because it has a situation doesn't mean the type or quantity of situations are anywhere near equal

[vocal rose]

showman isn’t viable

seance isnt viable

[cosmic sun]

showman is pretty viable if I want to lose though

[sand bramble]

yeah in a vacuum nothing is viable

[rancid widget]

this goddamn 3 of clubs

[still frost]

That's actually true af

[safe moat]

There are some cards that are generally just not useful or worth when it comes to playing high stakes

[silent veldt]

what is happening

[pale wolf]

when you're saying every Joker has a situation, you're not saying anything of substance
It's not a meaningful point It's just stating the obvious, where if you follow the same logic you just end up not being able to have any discussion

[vocal rose]

no in practicality those jokers aren’t viable

[silent veldt]

why cant we all be jokers in peace

[white zodiac]

defending a worthless argument pt 5

[vocal rose]

at all

[heavy heron]

i don’t know why anybody feels the need to govern or emphasize how one joker is better than another, it’s not like what i play affects what you play

[lyric shore]

everything is viable so nothing is better than anything else i think

[sand bramble]

okay so do you people just argue for fun then

[white zodiac]

sometimes my life is a joke

[cosmic sun]

balatro mfs be fanning the flames to the most milktoast argument ever

[safe moat]

Because it’s a social thing

[pale wolf]

ostensibly it's to improve and inform other people's gameplay decisions

It's a learning space

[white zodiac]

there are some meaningful conversations for the purpose of improvement

[heavy heron]

fair

[cosmic sun]

can't challenge anyone these days or they hit you with some meta commentary

[safe moat]

Like why I can’t keep Econ for shit in gold or orange stake

[vocal rose]

no one’s controlling of what other people play

[river slate]

Hellooo jimbo_spin Dumpy

[cosmic sun]

shit is annoying as hell

[rancid widget]

do i have anything to sell it for showman

[safe moat]

No

[white zodiac]

i’m not gonna tell ppl who want to learn about the game and get better by saying the things you’ve said in the past few minutes though

[rancid widget]

fair point

[pale wolf]

not to increase your score

You could sell a bloodstone so that your run is prettier

[white zodiac]

oh

[long oxide]

When idol is ready what would I get rid off

[safe moat]

That’s a good way to put it

[silent veldt]

guys i was playing balatro and i got to ante 8 when this guy appeared ??

[rancid widget]

this is the third fucking invis this run im not really complaining but what the fuck is going on

[pale wolf]

I'm not sure I get it...

[vocal rose]

no we should tell newer players idol is useable in standard gameplay

[cosmic sun]

when the game discussion has game discussion

🙀

[safe moat]

You can’t do anything you kinda cooked yourself

[pale wolf]

is there a famous Bell to do with Lincoln or something

[rancid widget]

wym?

[safe moat]

Yeah but they aren’t going to just understand how to use it immediately

[white zodiac]

if i need to be biased for choosing what jokers i want to discuss about, it would be in favor of those that wins more runs as there’s some benefit of discussion for the people lurking around in chat that wants to heed some advice for their own runs

[silent veldt]

i think lincoln is reading the gettysburgh adress

[eternal anchor]

Bloodstone haters crying in their sleep after seeing this picture

[silent veldt]

not sure tho

[vocal rose]

it’s sarcasm idol is shit for normal gameplay

[white zodiac]

[rancid widget]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

fuck caps lock

[wide scaffold]

Just had my first gold stake win! Got it on anaglyph and never got a tag that even felt worth skipping for, so I ended the run with a whole stack of double tags 🙂

[safe moat]

You don’t have anyway to make negatives

[pale wolf]

grats

[rancid widget]

oh i don't really care

[pale wolf]

You played on raw dog

[safe moat]

Good job

[safe moat]

Yeah

[eternal anchor]

essentially you had absolutely no deck benefit wow

[rancid widget]

like i alr had a high score a long time ago

[heavy heron]

oh yeahhhh.. anaglyph exists

i should play that now

[vocal rose]

no downsides though

[random ice]

If we understood the exact mechanics of joker Generation we'd take skips more often

[vocal rose]

anaglyph top up tag ante 2 though

[wide scaffold]

My first purple win was also on anaglyph, and also didn't up using any double tags. Agreed it's just a nice neutral deck at its core

[languid pecan]

most skips i take are to get my econ started

[pine swift]

My highest non perkeo run. Sadly it ends here

[pale wolf]

riff raff lite

[languid pecan]

ante 1-3 usually SOMETIMES 4 but not often

[heavy heron]

on ghost, nice

[pale wolf]

nice 🙂

[rancid widget]

uhhhhhhhhhhhh

hi brainstorm

[heavy heron]

sell a blood

[vagrant dawn]

🔥

[wide scaffold]

Felt good to finally put a check mark in the gold column 🙂

[languid pecan]

oh yeah you would want to sell a bloodstone for space for ecto

[vocal rose]

this is a valid skip here

[vagrant dawn]

ooh peak

[white zodiac]

[heavy heron]

it is

[pale wolf]

and switching to sock for Lucky economy

[languid pecan]

yes

[cyan ocean]

yippee :3

[languid pecan]

getting econ to 25 asap is my priority

[rancid widget]

pretty sure there is no reason to do that?

[vocal rose]

if I was on anaglyph this would’ve been made even better

[pine swift]

Is that a website or you literally made an excel sheet for that

[rancid widget]

no wait nvm it does

[long oxide]

Is sock better than what

[rancid widget]

i can negative it

[heavy heron]

people just named like 6 reasons

[languid pecan]

the reason is if you want to either take a second ecto or want to pivot out of bloodstone into idol

[wide scaffold]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KRWqDMEB8jcM7RVkpYrIKFXojW1IWwCMR-Owc7R5xuc/edit?usp=sharing

[pale wolf]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JtkUidxh9IQgCfMYt5qQfDGLo0hD5LxhgFRK-p9rzyE/edit?usp=drivesdk
here's an empty checklist made by somebody who now left the server but it's good

You can just make a copy

[runic lark]

[pale wolf]

hi sui

[cobalt torrent]

Double constellation yorick is kinda fun 🙂

[buoyant ridge]

does anyone have tips with plasma ? i have huge problems on plasma gold

[vocal rose]

I’ll never need a checklist it seems redundant to me

[cobalt torrent]

hihihi

[vocal rose]

if I see a joker without a gold sticker im taking it

[languid pecan]

nonretriggerable xMult is fun

[buoyant ridge]

even with pair lvl 17 i cant beat plasma

[pale wolf]

I like to know what's left and also this shows me which decks I got each Joker on

[sudden skiff]

end of journey

[runic lark]

It is possible to have mods on mobile

[wide scaffold]

I do like this checlist, but prefer the visual matrix for the deck grind. Will probably switch to this sheet once I've completed all the decks, this seems more useful for tracking C++

[pale wolf]

also better than counting every time

[runic lark]

It is possible to have mods on mobile

[white zodiac]

consider two pairs and multiple x mults

[pale wolf]

nope

[vocal rose]

I never count I just sticker until they’re all done

[white zodiac]

ugh black deck time

[buoyant ridge]

but its hard to get those

[white zodiac]

same

[vocal rose]

ig it’s to show progress

[wide scaffold]

Early on, the visual matrix helped me plan which deck/stake combos I should attack next. Now that I've worked up through blue and purple, it is a bit reduntant, but still satisfying to have a visual checklist and a percentage counter 🙂

[runic lark]

[languid pecan]

black deck sucks but is fun if you can survive the first few antes

[rancid widget]

finally i fully deckfixed

[cosmic sun]

I like how people count instead of using the percentage of jokers stickered

[vocal rose]

I’d only count if im at like 120+

[pale wolf]

progress and planning later in the stickering phase

[rancid widget]

idol would be goated here right

[pale wolf]

I mean you have to count because the other stake stickers are counted in the 1,200 or whatever

I don't care about green stickers

[cosmic sun]

I think a filter ingame would help with that ngl

[vocal rose]

what planning though since if you can live with 3 jokers the last two can just be used for free

[pale wolf]

100%

[cosmic sun]

Since I would only care about gold stickers anyhow

[buoyant ridge]

for me plasma is worse than black deck...

[wide scaffold]

Ante 2 grabber is a breath of fresh air 🫠

[pale wolf]

when I did C++ I used almost every Joker

feels nicer

[cosmic sun]

I used baron last game

[eternal anchor]

the vanilla profile screen already has everything I need to know about my progress

[cosmic sun]

stickered

[pale wolf]

like if I want to just win the game no matter what then I can just go streaking instead of trying to C plus plus with empty slots for tag alongs

[wide scaffold]

Plasma can be pretty frustrating. I remember seeing a wr speed run that used plasma and being so excited to try it. It was pretty fun on white stake, you can basically switch your brain off. But gets tougher on higher stakes

[glass creek]

That's usually what happens whenever I play on anaglyph :p

[languid pecan]

my c++ wouldve taken like polychrome edition longer if i did that

[white zodiac]

I streaked yellow deck on accident one time lol

[cyan ocean]

thankfully i took the invest tag

[rancid widget]

i wish i had an ecto

[pale wolf]

my first gold sticker to last took 69 hours of gameplay and 45 runs

[gaunt nacelle]

rigged deck?

[pale wolf]

which I feel pretty good about

[white zodiac]

it's def worse to streak in my imo

[rancid widget]

no it's clearly erratic

[gaunt nacelle]

it's red deck

look at the back

[rancid widget]

retextured

[wide scaffold]

When grinding through a deck or stake, I found it pretty engaging to know my percents through those grinds. Obviously doesn't actually make a difference, but satisfying to have stats

[zenith musk]

Is this build good?

[cosmic sun]

yeah the ceiling lamp is a nice touch

[vocal rose]

well you have to win somehow

[wide scaffold]

45 runs overall? Or 45 gold stake attempts?

[zenith musk]

Ty bro

[pale wolf]

45 wins

plenty more attempts

[urban wren]

Rip run, dies to 24 yet again

[zenith musk]

Should I add another for extra chips?

[buoyant ridge]

do i have a skill issue ?

[vocal rose]

if it’s a scaling joker typically it can fit as an extra third sticker too

[cosmic sun]

yea

[vocal rose]

yes

[buoyant ridge]

but why ;(

[white zodiac]

I wonder how this changes on black deck

[wide scaffold]

I have a lack-of-skill issue, would happily trade that for your skill issue

[pale wolf]

I should go through and see which of my stickers were tag alongs and which were actually useful in the run

[cosmic sun]

did no one tell you that you needed to pivot to xmult for higher stake plasma?

[zenith musk]

But fr are my jokers good?

[final garden]

do i gamble

[vocal rose]

nearly all scaling/econ/utility jokers were used in an actual run

[final garden]

i can easily win with this build

but i do have a soul card

[cosmic sun]

I mean it probably wins red stake, consider finding an xmult though

[vocal rose]

but most of the early game shit like glutinous joker were tag alongs

[wide scaffold]

yes, spin the wheel

[cosmic sun]

good habit

[rancid widget]

hmmm...(My deck is fully fixed with red seal king of hearts only)

[zenith musk]

I’m trying but it ain’t coming 😭😭

[final garden]

if your deck is fully fixed sell a bloodstone for an idol

[zenith musk]

I’m getting like 1300 chips and 100 mult each round🙏🙏

[cosmic sun]

I would keep bootstraps at a certain mult at that point @zenith musk

[vocal rose]

why would you not take it

[white zodiac]

niche input but if it doesn't eat into your scoring potential or econ too much, you can still consider flat mult options without playing too hard into it compared to other decks as you're narrowing the window of having x mult necessities

[cosmic sun]

still gotta reroll for stuff

[buoyant ridge]

this game is too complicated to me sry

[zenith musk]

Why

[cosmic sun]

it's a good habit for later so you can find xmult

[narrow fulcrum]

It sounds complicated but its not too bad

[zenith musk]

So should I reroll for a xmult?

[rancid widget]

my e was ten less the previous run lmao

[cosmic sun]

one of the weaknesses of bootstraps is the money restriction, but yeah decide on how much money you wanna keep for straps and reroll

[safe moat]

This is good to do right?

[buoyant ridge]

400 hours and i still think im doing ALOT of things wrong or dont understand core aspects

[uncut slate]

bloodskull

[warped wave]

Im back with attempt 341

[urban wren]

o7

[urban wren]

Rest in piece run

[zenith musk]

Alr

[cobalt torrent]

yea playing the big blind so you can earn some money

[buoyant ridge]

are there players who play better than roffle ?

[vocal rose]

no ecto?

[lyric shore]

lol yes

[urban wren]

Nope

[vocal rose]

lots of people lmfao

[lyric shore]

roffle plays for content

[urban wren]

One spectral pack across the entire run

[cosmic sun]

my ass probably plays better than roffle

[vocal rose]

he’s not a serious player

[rancid widget]

man i think i sell my sock, bloodstone and idol for that credit card... idk tho...

[vocal rose]

he has c++ though

[vocal rose]

there’s no metric to judge that though

[zenith musk]

Who is roffle

[vocal rose]

roffle lite

[cosmic sun]

roffle dark

[urban wren]

He’s good, he’s better than most people but in no way is he the best

[zenith musk]

..

[trail holly]

i like watching roffle heavy the runs are actually interesting on there

[white zodiac]

rolling on the floor

[uncut slate]

this is crazy

[zenith musk]

THIS GAME HATES ME

[cosmic sun]

shrug

he might be he might be not

I think most people are better than content roffle tho if you catch my drift

[white zodiac]

most ppp

ppl

[cosmic sun]

nvm most people aren't

[pale wolf]

pvp roffle kinda not great

[north schooner]

Finally get an early wee in the shop, let alone with a retrigger, and then on the free reroll, this happens

[pale wolf]

not that it carries over much

[cosmic sun]

I be getting flashbacks to youtube comments and reddit posts

[pale wolf]

but doc is good at pvp

[north schooner]

Do I go with it?

[cosmic sun]

rip egg ig

[lyric shore]

go with photo? i wouldnt

[dense fiber]

I always thought castle was like ancient joker, not idol. Is that wrong?

[vocal rose]

didn’t roffle lose to drspectred once because he had a mod on that fixed his shop

[vocal rose]

it’s like idol

[terse vale]

whens the full version of roffle coming out

[north schooner]

Neither are eternal, which is nice

[dense fiber]

Huh. Thanks

[vocal rose]

roffle heavy

[north schooner]

Castle is proportional to deck composition

[pale wolf]

@vocal rose check me using smeared on checkered productively
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1379214645742796911/1400853980535455885/screen-20250801-105107.mp4?ex=68f8efef&is=68f79e6f&hm=68b690ac47fc1eaabe0984922a19f07c4fe3d602e239c238c9da3ff1dafe0e27&

[cosmic sun]

check and x react

[pale wolf]

lol

[dense fiber]

Thanks. Good to know!

[buoyant ridge]

dying again because of red card

[rancid widget]

oh no... all my diamonds... are debuffed.... no... how could it be? how do i ever recover from this?

[buoyant ridge]

this rng is insanely dumb

[uncut slate]

red card is good

looks like bad econ

[pale wolf]

its plasma

red card aint doin shit

[buoyant ridge]

yeah because the game doenst give me anything good besides planets

[cosmic sun]

so no one also told him he needed chips on plasma huh

[trail holly]

red card on plasma might be f tier

[rancid widget]

It's plasma, early game use chip jokers

[cosmic sun]

🗿

[urban wren]

This is optimal right? Also yea I know im cooked

[buoyant ridge]

and what if i dont get any chips jokers early ?

[trail holly]

yes

[cosmic sun]

then get a planet pack

lol

[trail holly]

you pray for planets

[rancid widget]

ah... look at this goodness...

[cosmic sun]

stop overthinking about rng it will do you no good @buoyant ridge

for the last time

[trail holly]

the plant

[urban wren]

I fucking hate this game

[white zodiac]

don't think this is red cards fault

[rancid widget]

hit it back in ante 6 nuh uh

[safe moat]

See I always get runs that kinda happen like this

[trail holly]

you know it can appear again right

[safe moat]

And I have no idea why I keep playing like this

[urban wren]

So much rage

[cosmic sun]

what pair at

[safe moat]

Five rn

[cosmic sun]

spaceman the goat

[safe moat]

Yeah

[cosmic sun]

lowkey splash helps here

[safe moat]

But rn I need glass because the cards dictate how the run goes

[safe moat]

Yeah that’s why I took it

[north schooner]

What a terrible idea

[uncut slate]

ah didn't notice

[spiral cairn]

wrong server

[north schooner]

terrible idea trifecta?

[cosmic sun]

my goat chaos is gone...💔

that was your worst sin

[north schooner]

He's got his sticker

[rancid widget]

got retcon

[cosmic sun]

he coulda helped a bit longer 🥺

[pallid ferry]

i love a good baseball card run

[trail holly]

W

[cosmic sun]

no abbreviation, just rawdogging it

[pallid ferry]

absolutely

[rancid widget]

it doesn't really matter though, i died simply because i hit my limit. Maybe if i'd hit an ecto and got a showman, or got a dusk, or anything i'd go farther, but yet.

[trail holly]

still a good run tho

[brave goblet]

Ante 6 red card actually equalled ante 8 supernova

[rancid widget]

Never said it wasn't literally the best run i've ever had

[cosmic sun]

dam, nova kinda low then

[brave goblet]

44 pairs low?

[uncut slate]

red card my goat again

[cosmic sun]

yeah from what I've found

I know people like coasting off at 40 though

[rugged pecan]

):

Do I sell brainstorm…?

[brave goblet]

Hmm probably cause 18 other hands were high card and two pair

[pallid ferry]

he heard me saying good things about him and came back

[safe moat]

Is the plan to just glass some more cards and death?

I can really play other types of hands other than pair which is at 12

[white zodiac]

good enough

[patent bridge]

bruh

lost 2 black deck runs because i forget the 6th joker slot

i had a 4 immolate run and i fumbled lol

5 immolate*

[safe moat]

This won

[vestal fern]

omg

noway

[white zodiac]

I'm playing so irresponsibly

[safe moat]

Dawg how

😭

[white zodiac]

round 7 lol

every single spectral has had grim

[safe moat]

What 😭

Why’re you taking only spectrals 😭

[white zodiac]

[pale wolf]

@vocal rose ok i done it
any joker not on here, was actually used productively during its sticker run
and that's not to say that there weren't later runs with these Jokers that would have been applicable productive sticker runs, but just that my first gold win with it wasnt productive

[white zodiac]

champion of getting away with it on abandoned

[gray plaza]

One and a half Es off from naneinf, bean bug at ante 32 was insane and I have 34 hand size thanks to another Bean

[random ice]

Glorious win

[vocal rose]

ngl with how you were saying you used ALOT of jokers

[tardy spade]

What if gold cards were nerfed to give $2 instead if $3?

[gray plaza]

The stars aligned in this damn seed lol

[vocal rose]

some of these I didnt expect to be on here

[pale wolf]

I think the funniest one is canio, and there are definitely like eight or nine on this list that carried other ones but just were picked up at the end of other runs for being uncommons

[vocal rose]

I used dagger a bunch, glass joker, faceless,

like ALOT of these are ones I didn't use as tag alongs

and we're stickered along side tag alongs

[pale wolf]

I think glass probably wasn't intended to be a tag along, since I actually did scale it once, probably just didn't get the opportunity like with canio

[left vigil]

Negative banana

[gray plaza]

Is it possible to beat the other blinds with 33 steel cards and 194 pluto cards

[pale wolf]

but yeah, you can name any Joker not on this list and I can show you a run where it was useful

[random ice]

Really fun run

[white zodiac]

only 2 mult jokers woah

[pale wolf]

jimbo crazy wrathful walkie glutenous dagger fist

[floral delta]

really

today's Balatrodle

[pale wolf]

brutal lemme try

[zinc karma]

I am NOT feeling safe

[gray plaza]

?

[floral delta]

legit could not think what could be with that attributes

[white zodiac]

pari being useful exposed

[patent bridge]

nice

i love that

Many people only do stickers at the last shop

[pale wolf]

it was with midas

[patent bridge]

And its fine but some ppl just overdo it

[pale wolf]

todays balatrodle spoilers in 2:
||there was literally one available option after my bloodstone guess lol guess im just optimal like that||

[pale wolf]

I feel like if I was going to do that then I could just play a restricted challenge where I only allow myself three Jokers or whatever

[floral delta]

Cruelty

[patent bridge]

raised fist is crazy

Ive won a lot of games where raised fist was productive

at least first 3-4 antes

[pale wolf]

fist is quite good, just didn't contribute to its specific stickering run

[white zodiac]

nice

[pale wolf]

I'm sure I have at least a couple runs where it was the main base mult

[patent bridge]

yea i get that

[floral delta]

yea fist is nice

[pale wolf]

I'm going to do another once through and see which ones can be crossed off for "wouldve been stickered"

[white zodiac]

working with one as we speak

[pale wolf]

fist makes steel so much more valuable

[zinc karma]

I AM feeling safe yay

[zinc karma]

I messed up faster than i thought

I used hex instead of ecto

[white zodiac]

one of the more cooler red seal interactions

[north schooner]

Stickers for wee and pareidolia.

Could have got sixth sense too, but I didn't trust getting rid of acrobat with crimson heart.

[zinc karma]

Ez

🤔

[tardy spade]

What if there was a challenge making all jokers perishable and banned scalars?

[brazen dome]

whats this

[safe moat]

So what am I doing to win this run

[brazen dome]

uhhhh

mult??

how tf are u on 54k with those jokers

[tardy spade]

Planet scaling?
To actually still win the run you need x mult

[safe moat]

I know

But I’m struggling to find any glass

[brazen dome]

wut

glass isnt only thing

oh wait do u need gold stake for those cards lmao

[solid tapir]

straight flush

[safe moat]

No?

[brazen dome]

ic i just thought since ur name

[mild scaffold]

look at this beautiful bram poker run

[solid tapir]

great line up

[brazen dome]

thought for sure youd have found atleast ONE mult joker

[mild scaffold]

theres insane judgement luck at play (i had tarot tycoon, like omg)

[safe moat]

How bout flower pot

[solid tapir]

flower pot works

[brazen dome]

should work? what hand are u playing

[safe moat]

Sweet

Straight flush

[brazen dome]

oh damn

well if u get either uh

[solid tapir]

with smeared and four fingers what else could it be frfr

[safe moat]

I’m taking pot

[mild scaffold]

forget the last one, this is even nicer

[brazen dome]

i forgot the names but x mult for flush or straight ur good

[late helm]

Is it even worth a try here

[cold finch]

the ancient sock technique: Photochad

[solid tapir]

not really

what else could you get that would help other than chicot

golden ticket better for money

[late helm]

and ive got directors cut either way so

[solid tapir]

yah

[late helm]

just feel bad skipping a soulo

[safe moat]

I actually hate flower pot so much

[solid tapir]

painful decisions have to be made in this gambling game

[brazen dome]

what happen lmao

[solid tapir]

definitely not a fan of it

[safe moat]

It doesn’t work without wild cards it looks like because it won’t count one card as two

[brazen dome]

damn

wait flowerpot was the uh

1 of each?

[safe moat]

All suits for a x3

[brazen dome]

ic

ramen would be nice for u ig + whatever gave x mult for straight and flush

[pale grotto]

Flower pot is like seeing double but worse

[brazen dome]

for wtv reason i usually skip alot in my runs so i use that uh

party joker or wtv, 0,25x mult for every skip

[safe moat]

It was only really my levels

[brazen dome]

ic

you lose?

also what were the c+ and all titles about

iirc one of them was to have all jokers gold stake

[safe moat]

Yeah

[safe moat]

Yeah

[late helm]

I pop an invis and pray for bp or brainstorm?

[safe moat]

Couldn’t find anything to save the run

[late helm]

econ would die