🃏・off-topic

[sullen portal]

anyone know any jokes or funny stories

[leaden jetty]

I used to work at the zoo, got a delivery of new animals for an exhibit, but we had to return it to sender because the seal was broken.

[opaque plank]

phoque off, as it were

[worthy star]

did you know, when shuffling a deck of 52 cards, the chance that the exact sequence of cards you just shuffled has existed before is astronomically low, meaning it's highly likely a deck hasn't existed in that order ever before

[swift salmon]

do yall think slay the spire is somewhat similar to Balatro
I am looking for a game to scratch the itch this game left me

[neat ore]

poker quest maybe

[opaque plank]

the biggest vibe I get from Balatro isn't even a card game; it's Luck Be A Landlord

[wheat warren]

I've been playing Slay the Spire so much recently. The mods definitely help keep things fresh, as well as playing co-op

[ruby lake]

Poker quest is a nice game

[jade warren]

To inaugurate this channel, here's a game I really enjoyed if you're still looking for a poker fix
It isn't a rougelike, though! It's a full-featured story RPG with some interesting mechanics
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1797630/Dance_of_Cards/

Steam

Dance of Cards

Sixteen passengers aboard the ocean liner Magnific, who set sail to the shores of the New World in search of a better life, become trapped in a cruel and deadly game of cards.With no option to escape, they are forced to accept the rules and put their lives at stake for a fleeting hope of salvation.During the seven days, players will face each ot...

Price

$9.99

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[ruby lake]

Card Shark is also a non roguelike exelent game about well cards and cheating at card games

[leaden jetty]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1585910/Roll/

Steam

Roll

In each play through, you will have 2500 rolls to craft the perfect set of dice and collect as many points as possible. Borrowing gameplay elements from strategy, clicker, and roguelike deckbuilder genres, Roll creates a perfect balance of relaxation with critical thinking. Roll is designed first and foremost as a relaxing and meditative exp...

Price

$4.99

Recommendations

314

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I think Balatro players will enjoy Roll, the big combo stuff is a little less obvious as it doesn't have poker/jokers to guide you, but the discovery of big synergys is so much fun for $4

[cursive egret]

only 5 bucks?

I'm sold

[cursive egret]

I checked that game out but it's SO hard to look at

[opaque plank]

it takes some getting used to for sure. it starts ticking those casino-vibe boxes in your lizard brain pretty quickly though

[echo bone]

man I remember buying roll and then playing 1 round of it and dipping

maybe I don't have the attention span

[sick latch]

new channel win

[sullen portal]

i cleared floor 20 in luck be a landlord - that game satisfies my lizard brain

[echo bone]

I think I did too

game is fun

[nimble whale]

that was like a year ago but cats go brrr

[sullen portal]

WAIT YOU CAN CHANGE THE BACKGROUND COLOR????

[nimble whale]

yup

[sullen portal]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

now i just play a lot of super auto pets

[echo bone]

I need to go back to that game

it's been so long since I played

prolly since the first pack came out

[sullen portal]

the weeklies really make it fun

random pack every week

[echo bone]

I played a lot of this autobattler called Yi Xian for a while

[sullen portal]

got to do this on the weekly - a round 27 win

[echo bone]

just booted up and what does this mean

[hard ledge]

I can agree. Roll is pretty good. Very chill game.

[sullen portal]

about 1186 and a third

hope this helps

[echo bone]

[hard ledge]

A cool roguelike/dice game is "circadian dice"

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1893620/Circadian_Dice/

Steam

Circadian Dice

A cosmic entity has twisted time into an endless cycle. By observing the repeating patterns, the entity intends to destroy all uncertainty and ultimately control reality.In Circadian Dice, you control a group of heroes that have managed to step outside this unnatural cycle, and are now setting out to find and destroy its source. You will need to...

Price

$5.99

Recommendations

432

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[ruby lake]

I played in the early days before escences and stuff should get back to it someday.... Which is probs after i have 100% revita

[ancient raptor]

LbaL was such a cool game with so many updates, but the steam workshop is pretty barren for that kinda of game. As someone who played modded DD more than base game (every dlc and most of achievements included), I really wish it got more support

[sinful flax]

I really enjoyed Wildfrost, it looks like a slay the spire copy at first glance but it actually has a pretty unique and fun mechanic. Game is brutal tho despite it's cute looks!

[echo bone]

I think I've completed like 2 runs successfully in wildfrost

every mistake is so damaging in that game

[nimble whale]

modded brotato go brrr

[ionic cedar]

You sure you have enough HP? You could probably use a little more

[lament mauve]

so what's everyone's copium game of choice? FFXIV is my go-to atm

[ashen granite]

wanna have fun making good hands? play Mahjong

(there's mahjong in FFXIV I think)

[neat ore]

there is

[snow crown]

Online poker

[ruby lake]

Mahjong is a good game if one fucking game didnt take so fucking long sometimes

[ashen granite]

play sanma tonpuusen

(3 player east-only)

they're so fast

[ruby lake]

But like 4 player is better doe

[ashen granite]

4 player is sooo slooow

at least Majsoul's Battle of Asura makes it nicer

[ruby lake]

Totally remember battle of asura rules off the top of my head totally

[ashen granite]

• start of each round, everyone picks 3 tiles to discard, and they get given to a random person
• game doesn't stop when a person ron/tsumos, it goes until 3 people do so OR a draw
• no repeats, east only

[ruby lake]

oh right right i think there were some other rules also but yeah that was basically it

[ashen granite]

https://riichi.wiki/List_of_special_rooms_in_Mahjong_Soul#Battle_of_Asura explains it better

[ruby lake]

Ngl came here for balatro gonna stay here for the community

[ruby lake]

Gonna go and do a 4p south game so see you in like 2 hours

[ashen granite]

LMAO

[ruby lake]

South has started

[ruby lake]

I finished dead last 😭

[brisk sierra]

Part of me wants to become some kind of mahjong no lifer but it took all my brainpower just to have some idea of what I'm doing

[ashen granite]

Mahjong Soul offloads some of the brainpower you need onto the game, they have assists

[ruby lake]

Yep

[ashen granite]

it's pretty easy to pick up, but learning the yaku takes some time

[ruby lake]

I just wing it

[ashen granite]

thankfully mahjong soul tells you when you don't have a yaku

[ruby lake]

Well knowing you dont have a yaku is thankfully most of the time pretty easy its knowing how much you have thats the hard part

[onyx flare]

me who only plays 4 player south 💀

[brisk sierra]

I'm pretty good at recognizing yaku it just feels like a single player game whenever I play

Should put more time into it

[ruby lake]

But it is slow you cant argue that

[onyx flare]

sure is, but I hate the fast ones because people just chase cheap open hands and get way too much value from red fives

tanyao and yakuhai chasers are my demise

[vestal marten]

I never liked Poker until this game

[vestal marten]

I don't believe Poker can be this fun

The roguelike aspect really sells it

[steep cliff]

The roguelike aspect really makes it what it is. I don't find regular poker that amusing but this game got me hooked

*On this game, not on poker 😅

[leaden jetty]

Question of the Day: What's the signature item on the Joker's Deli menu?

[opaque plank]

4 of Club Sandwich

[leaden jetty]

Served With Pepper Jack Cheese

[solid bronze]

And Hearts of palm?

[gusty marlin]

don't forget 🍌 peppers

[leaden jetty]

alright, who's making this sandwhich then?

[hidden notch]

hearts of palm are so good i get them from the grocery store as a snack lol

[gusty marlin]

merry andy

the hack's day job is cleaning the toilets

[leaden jetty]

I don't think I even know what this food is

is it like artichoke hearts? (something else I've never seen)

[gusty marlin]

more like bamboo shoots

[hidden notch]

kinda? more tender though and because its exclusively the heart so you can just bite straight through it

i dont really like bamboo shoots tbh, hearts of palm 🔛 🔝

lmao those emotes are literally invisible huh

[leaden jetty]

on top

[hidden notch]

yea

its really hard to describe hearts of palm tbh its one of those things you have to try to understand

[solid bronze]

Kind of like a pickled cheese stick 🤤

[leaden jetty]

Not one for me I think

[solid bronze]

Yo peeps, I'm curious. Anyone have game suggestions for the Balatro sized hole in my heart?

[spare sierra]

You know what - there is a super cool dev making a game called Dungeons & Degenerate Gamblers. He has a demo out right now, if you like it you should give him some love and a wishlist ❤️

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2400510/Dungeons__Degenerate_Gamblers/

Steam

Dungeons & Degenerate Gamblers

You’ve played blackjack before…In Dungeons & Degenerate Gamblers you’ll travel through a tavern where everyone plays a very different version of blackjack to what you’re used to. You’ll have to master it to strike down the capitalists at the top that are profiting from the tavern’s manipulation of the blackjack-addicted townspeople.But never wit...

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Coming soon

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[hidden notch]

I'd suggest dicey dungeons, roll, luck be a landlord, poker quest, slay the spire

[solid bronze]

Ooooo this looks perfect, thanks!

[hidden notch]

Great suggestion, I got 1000 chips in a single turn

[opaque plank]

oh this game is really neat also!

[smoky pecan]

So when's this card coming?

[median knot]

☝️ this, pretty fun stuff

[left glacier]

This was nice when I managed to pull it off twice before lootbox, so I could just spam lootboxes to see what kind of cards the game hasn't shown me yet

[oak dome]

I'll make it, I've been a chef for 9 years. it'll be hype for my instagram feed lol

also, i've been enjoying some tf2 in my freetime to occupy me while i wait 🙂

[gusty marlin]

austrian emperors are dying too early again 😦

[brazen moat]

Riichi is just super addictive, as for many people the yakuza games were my gateway but now I've played riichi for longer than all that series combined

You've gotta learn to recognize some chinese characters, yeah, but the big yaku list is easier to digest than it first seems. Any hand that looks like it makes an interesting pattern counts for getting big points, it's pretty straightforward

[brisk sierra]

My gateway was the Kaiji manga lol, at first I just wanted to understand but then I thought the game was super interesting

[hidden notch]

kaiji is so good lol

[brazen moat]

Now I'm dreaming of a riichi roguelike... It'd be amplitudes more complex to think up than this probably already was though hahaha

[hidden notch]

I think I like when kaiji plays modified games though, and there is a game theory trick to be discovered

[brazen moat]

Though maybe if you use the Kaiji minefield rules as a base...

If any of y'all liked Kaiji and ended up invested in the Mahjong arc, please do check Akagi and Ten out sometime

[brisk sierra]

Akagi was just as good and probably twice as crazy, loved it

[winter steeple]

I heard y’all were talking about riichi

[ruby lake]

Well anything by Nobuyuki Fukumoto is great the man just does not miss

[brazen moat]

For sure for sure

[ruby lake]

also liars game scratches that itch

Also Tomodachi game (Although that is a bit edgy)

[subtle girder]

Tomodachi game is the just the right blend of terrible edge and genuinely good game theory that is so fun to read.

[ruby lake]

yep

[lament mauve]

Ive yet to watch the netflix adaptation; how is it if you know?

[ruby lake]

I heard decent things about it was supposed to be pretty good from what i hears at least

[hidden notch]

Used break limits to double the value of a locked 11 that had gotten swapped to the opponent, now they can't ever win lol

(and then abused that fact to get 1000 chips)

[junior kettle]

Fantastic recommendation. I need more casino-themed fantasy encounters in my gaming life

[mellow spruce]

It looks kind of shitty but i'm no graphic designer

[smoky pecan]

Haha that's pretty awesome, I really need to stop coming up with excuses and learn some digital art skills

[ashen granite]

W + riichi + pinfu + tanyao + iipeikou + ippatsu + 1 red five + dora 1 + ura dora 1 + baiman

[hard ledge]

This game is dope. Cant wait for it to come out.

[analog slate]

I think I found a new genre of games to get into -card based rogue likes. Thanks thunk

[hard ledge]

Deckbuilders have always been good. Especially when they are roguelikes

Slay the Spire got me hooked.

[versed echo]

would you call Inscryption a rougelike?

I have never been able to pin that game down

Whatever you call it is really good.

[hard ledge]

has elements of it for sure. Real good.

[ashen granite]

yes

especially Kaycee's Mod

[analog slate]

I highly recommend monster train. Tried to get into vault of the void

[hard ledge]

Monster train is one of my favorite meat pigeon

Real good game.

[analog slate]

Is the monster train dlc any good?

[hard ledge]

It is pretty good but the new clan they added isnt as good as the base game stuff

IDK if it goes on sale but Id wait for it to go on a sale

[analog slate]

That’s a shame-thanks for the info

[sullen portal]

I liked it a lot but already had 200+ hours and was just happy to have any more content

[analog slate]

I have 300+ hours in MT and wanted to make sure it was decent before diving back in is all

[ruby lake]

This really is offtopic but wanted to post it anyway as i have a pretty cool thing work in progress here if i say so myself

[leaden jetty]

My brain is picturing a castelvania discotech

[gusty marlin]

i had a dream last night that balatro was actually an arg and merry andy had a deep dark secret

[leaden jetty]

God I love args

[gusty marlin]

me too. i'm a huge fan of found footage horror

[leaden jetty]

I have whole albums of Perplex City cards from 2006, those were some good years

[lavish pivot]

Great game as well, got through the demo and playing it as well with the other suggestions

[lavish pivot]

LBAL is fun but I’ve hit all my hours on that game haha

Also I suggest demon crawl for a minesweeper rogue like

[hidden notch]

Oh yeah I always forget about demon crawl, pretty damn good

[clear wing]

Thanks so much for the shoutout!! ❤️
And glad everyone here seems to be enjoying the game too (and already breaking it in truly degenerate ways 😈)

[hard ledge]

Cant wait for the whole game to come out so I can really see what I can do with it.

[glossy sluice]

Any plans on offering higher resolution? The text was really hurting my eyes playing the demo due to the size on a 1440 monitor yesterday. It was weird, haven’t had that issue before

[clear wing]

I need to make the text more readable in general, all caps pixel font is doing me no favours for accessibility

[dense salmon]

@gusty marlin what'd you think of the POE2 stuff?

[gusty marlin]

i'm riding the hype train

mega excited for next league

[dense salmon]

First Tower Defense and now an Autobattler? When are they going to add a card game to PoE? (If you say Div Cards I shoot you)

[gusty marlin]

gimme that casino spinner league

[dense salmon]

Yes the thing PoE needed more of I always thought was RNG 😉

That item being able to see your next currency roll on an item looks interesting.

[gusty marlin]

gonna be hella expensive

i'm def rolling an rf chieftain

[dense salmon]

I haven't looked into the reworked ascendancy but I'm excited

Chieftan was always my favorite. CwC Volatile Death + Cyclone is my favorite build ever.

[gusty marlin]

someone's gonna make an aura stacking guardian build that's basically unkillable

[dense salmon]

Wouldn't be a PoE league without an UnKillable build

[gusty marlin]

the tattoos are gonna be nuts too. there's one or two on the announcement page that weren't teased in the livestream that are gonna be super good

[ashen granite]

modern PoE feels so complex

[leaden jetty]

Happy weekend everyone, enjoy some guinea pigs ❤️

[upbeat geyser]

i played a little bit, its cool but i def think the combo-finding aspects of balatro are much more intuitive. feels information-overloady at times but definitely going to try and play more to improve!!

[ashen granite]

roll feels like it takes too long to get started too

I got bored of it pretty easily and never got to the cool synergies

[daring pollen]

just joined, any recommendations what to play to scratch the itch balatro left?
Already tried the dungeons & degenerates one. I dont think there is a list somewhere? 🙂

[leaden jetty]

#🃏・off-topic message this one takes little more experimentation to learn what big combos work, but when I first played balatro and got big synergies going it's what I was most reminded of. It's alot more muted and chill in tone

[versed echo]

What are you guys playing in the meantime I am trying to level up Warior on aces and adventures.

[ruby lake]

grinding revita achivements

[leaden jetty]

Going through my first ever Warhemmer 40k Chaosgate Daemonhunters campaign atm, just finished Feed All Monsters, Currently working through Bilattice, learning Farm Keeper, and just tried Dungeons and Degenerate Gamblers for the first time 20 minutes ago (it's wild). But everything is moot on Thursday when Baldur's Gate 3 hits 1.0 after nearly 400 hours in the Act 1 early access

[vagrant horizon]

Yea I'm so hyped for BG3

I am also incredibly mad, though

When they first announced the release date back in February, they said August 31st. I booked time off from work as soon as they announced that

[sudden ridge]

Farm keeper looks very cool

I tried the last flame demo, it was cool, very short though

[leaden jetty]

I did the same to record letsplays en masse, I manages to move it to a week off from tomorrow, but now they aren't doing the 3 day early for pre orders, so I have 3.5 days off to come before it comes ~4pm my time Thursday

[vagrant horizon]

I didn't move mine

And I'm on site at a clients for the next 2 weeks, so my daily commute will also be slightly longer

Probably won't even play it release day, just download it before bed, then go ham when I get home on Friday

[sullen portal]

Slice & Dice also scratches a similar itch

[marsh verge]

True, I haven't touched that in quite a while, but it lost its appeal after awhile due to the balancing and me finally reaching my goal to beat it on very hard

But I enjoyed it immensely, but sometimes your runs feel like they aren't in your control enough given how much luck is involved

[half moon]

I slowly started making a game after getting inspired by balatro based on my favorite random card game gin rummy 😄

[untold hazel]

What’s next a blackjack deck builder? Lol

[half moon]

I think someone posted that there is one already 😄

it was localthunk actually #🃏・off-topic message

[versed echo]

@untold hazel you mean? Dungeons & Degenerate Gamblers

[untold hazel]

and I have to play that when I get home…

[versed echo]

@night tendon Aces and Adventures, Dungeons & Degenerate Gamblers, Dicey Dungeons, Luck be a landlord. Check those out

[half moon]

there also was poker quest a few years ago

[thorn dome]

I wish NL would go back to luck be a landlord, its changed so much now

[ruby lake]

Id say as somebody who played poker quest all the way through the development (From the pre alpha to release) it went downhill fast and was never the same after that

[leaden jetty]

I wanted to love poker quest but it felt too disjointed and difficult, with synergies that never felt super satisfying

[ashen granite]

I haven't played for a while, what has changed?

and by a while, I mean "itch.io says I last played 2 years ago"

[hidden notch]

i dont know the full list of changes, especially more recently, but from what I remember luck be a landlord kinda just got increasingly complex as time went on with extra mechanics tacked on top that gave you more control but kinda took the fun out of it for me

[ruby lake]

Nah i loved essences

[plain owl]

poker quest was very fun

[robust trout]

is it worth playing again if i haven't played since it just got out of early access?

[thorn dome]

Id say so, a lots changed. Not sure if I like it more than the EA builds mind

[ancient raptor]

|| https://youtu.be/8h6BLFUkbeM|| Pog

[nimble whale]

pog indeed

[lavish pivot]

below the stone, roguelike but not a deck builder so idk if yall are v keen haha

[high lichen]

Hades is a 10/10 roguelite if you are keen

[thorn dome]

God Hades is so good
I never did finish the story though

[jovial steeple]

if anyone's still talking about playing card collections...

[outer knoll]

no idea how you resist the urge to not crack these open - looks amazing

[jovial steeple]

I open almost every single one

[outer knoll]

hahaha

[jovial steeple]

I only don't open the limited versions, which I usually have the non limited version of it to open

this is also the collection case, there's another hundred all open in different totes around the closet lol

[sullen portal]

This is a gorgeous collection

[outer knoll]

that's the coolest fire hazard I've ever heard of 😄

[jovial steeple]

it is I, collector of crushed paper

[mossy rain]

THE MONADO

[spare sierra]

I love this so much

[jovial steeple]

IM REALLY FEELING IT

[mossy rain]

aw man, lemme find a pic of my friends monado

[icy meteor]

@spare sierra since you requested it, here's my Tarot Noir

[dense salmon]

Those look wow

Where did you get those

[icy meteor]

and the hand crafted visconti sforza limited edition

[icy meteor]

deals at local sales, I have no idea how these people got it

the visconti sforza was also still sealed

and felt pretty ominous

[dense salmon]

I live in indiana and I don’t see card shops or playing cards in stores very often

[icy meteor]

you'd have more luck in europe for this kinda thing!

[dense salmon]

Yea I figured lol

I don’t personally own these but I will soon

[icy meteor]

also it doesnt look like it, but the visconti cards are very small (normal since they're hand crafted), here's a comparison with a regular marseille

[dense salmon]

One looks much thinner and skinner

Skinnier

[leaden jetty]

My card collection. All 256 puzzle cards from the 2005 ARG Perplex City

[dense salmon]

Not really sure what that is :/

[icy meteor]

although the art is great, my favorite part about the visconti sforza deck is the history behind it

turns out, you learn a lot of things about medieval europe when you research the history behind the art

it's pretty eye opening, and there's much discourse about some of them

also, some of the cards in the deck are STILL lost, some cards in the decks are original creations and not the actual ones that were produced at this time, nobody knows what the devil looks like for example

[leaden jetty]

Fun Fact, the set is 256 cards, which has 54 prime numbers in. Meaning each prime numbered card is listed with one of the 52 cards in a standard deck, plus 2 jokers.

[icy meteor]

I got some favorite cards as well, Lovers is so good in visconti sforza, and also somewhat perplexing

[ruby lake]

Most of my collection is triftstores dollarstores and the ocasional somebody went on a trip so go buy some cards will you cards

Oldest deck is from the 50s

[outer knoll]

Damn these look amazing

[ruby lake]

My favorite set of cards

This is also cool

Also if anybody needed some horror

[leaden jetty]

Alright, I'll see you guys in a few hundred hours 😛

[novel pier]

KILL IT

NOW

why are they in all four coroner

corners

it's so creepy

[vagrant horizon]

I left my PC on when I went to work this morning

With BG3 updates set to high priority

So hopefully it's started

Might be able to do character creation before bed 😄

[leaden jetty]

Did you delete the EA version? You can also push downloads via the steam app

[vagrant horizon]

How do i push it via the app?

Had a look but couldn't see

[leaden jetty]

I'm not super sure, need a google for instructions

[vagrant horizon]

Doesn't seem to be a thing

[leaden jetty]

Ah damn, sorry

[vagrant horizon]

Nvm the steam articles were just badly outdated; not sure if this means it's already updated or not. I do have gigabit so 1.5 hours isn't unreasonable...

[ruby lake]

@empty orchid pic of all my unique jokers

[empty orchid]

You collect jokers too? I should expect to see some joker collectors here too! I keep some in my wallet as lucky charms

I'm thinking about getting a tattoo of all the suits or either ace through jacks

[versed echo]

I had a coworker give an apirl fools deck it was text based So like card just said FIVE OF HEARTS no pictures just the text in the middle

THREE OF SPADES etc etc

[opaque plank]

could you give us a few more examples, I'm not sure if I get it

[jovial steeple]

if you wanna see possibly one of the most purposely designed to made your whole head hurt decks without further ado: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/witnesskouxkeycard/inconvenient-playing-cards?ref=user_menu

[versed echo]

WOW get the fellas over for poker night stat

[vagrant horizon]

😤

[ruby lake]

Nah i collect playing cards i just made a pic of all my unique jokers

[ruby lake]

Thanks i want have a love/hate relationship now

[jovial steeple]

https://portfolio52.com/profile/25358/collection If anyone is interested here's most of my playing cards in an online collection

[ruby lake]

Why are we coming to the conclusion that so many people in this discord collect cards

[jovial steeple]

truly weird that people who like playing cards would be interested in a playing card roguelike? I don't see the connection....

[ruby lake]

exactly

[high lichen]

Same!

[opaque plank]

Oh that's a sick Steam theme, how did you do that?

[quaint barn]

This might be a good place to ask, but what’s the biggest reason not to get the cheapest steam deck?

I just found out they’re available in australia now

Need it for mostly testing my games, if I were to play games I’d do it on desktop mostly

[hardy flax]

Probably the storage capacity being low and not being an SSD but if you don't care about that stuff your fine

[ashen granite]

huh? officially? I thought all steam decks in Australia were imports

[quaint barn]

I thought so too but kogan (a local e-retailer) is now selling them

better than paying from some random reseller on ebay

that's 524 USD btw

I guess that's quite the markup huh

[ashen granite]

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/product/steam-deck

steam deck 64GBs are going for around ~$720

...on sale

[quaint barn]

😢

no big deal I guess, it's necessary for testing because my apps for some reason have shader errors on non-nvidia cards and these would be one avenue of testing

[jovial steeple]

You can always put your own ssd in the steam deck as well.

[quaint barn]

According to Valve, the 64GB eMMC loads games 12.5% slower compared to the 512GB NVMe SSD huh, only 12.5% difference?

[sullen portal]

I have the 512 but in hindsight I put a 1 TB card in it and at that point what does it really matter

[hidden notch]

using an SD card is also surprisingly not too bad vs the ssd

did some technical wizardry

[jovial steeple]

Imo either get the cheapest one and put a $60 1tb into it or get the most expensive for the etched glass screen, middle of the road doesn't seem too worth it unless you're scared to open the thing.

[half moon]

cheapest one would be beest for testing too imo 🙂

[quaint barn]

guess that's the route I'm taking

thanks for the inputs!

[orchid gorge]

If you want more info, really good testing data in this video, compares the different internal storage options as well as SD cards in transfer rates, loading speeds, frame rates, etc. : https://youtu.be/6PYAbu0swi0

[vale lark]

I got my steam deck from steam directly, near christmas day and it took 3 days to arrive

[quaint barn]

unfortunately they don't have that in australia 😔

[vale lark]

I did get the middle pack

[ruby lake]

Hey mahjong players i just saw a guy pull off 13 orphans

like kinda not even mad

[jovial steeple]

what a cursed sentence to people who don't play mahjong.

[ruby lake]

Whatcha mean it equally cursed playing

[sullen portal]

i don't know a ton about mahjong but i feel like this is where someone shouts "meme hand meme hand" right

[ruby lake]

Nah this basically like getting a royal flush on hard mode

[quaint barn]

can't wait for an enterprising developer to make the balatro of mahjong

[ruby lake]

Nah that would be a bit to complicated

[jovial steeple]

I mean if you had zero idea what mahjong was, saying someone pulled off 13 orphans is just a bizarre sentence lol.

[rugged sparrow]

Even worse than saying someone pulled off three big dragons

[ruby lake]

but lets be real 13 orphans is a meme as that shit cant be adapted midway

[rugged sparrow]

How many mahjong players we got in here?

[ruby lake]

like 5?

[rugged sparrow]

Enough for friendlies then :^)

[steel nacelle]

I watched a mahjong anime once, it looks pretty neat.

[rugged sparrow]

It's a lot of fun once you know what you're doing

[ruby lake]

well you dont HAVE to know what you are doing but

[rugged sparrow]

I think once you know how to make a hand you're pretty much good to go

But it keeps getting better as you get better

[ruby lake]

Instructions unclear i just went -10k points

[rugged sparrow]

Did you get hit by the 13 orphans?

[ruby lake]

nah double ron while being low on points

[rugged sparrow]

oof

[hardy flax]

I play mahjong I assume most people play riichi here? because of mahjong soul though

[ruby lake]

yep

[half moon]

I think that is probably going to be at least partly part of my gin rummy game

since gin rummy is just mahjong in disguise

[hardy flax]

unrelated but you play penny dreadful don't you I think I recognize you from there

[half moon]

yeah, I am a mod there 😄

small world

[hardy flax]

I feel like there is a lot of intersection of interests between all these games lol

[half moon]

yeah definitely

[hardy flax]

I played a few games of PD a few seasons ago

I played azorius control and made a janky ponza deck good fun

[half moon]

very nice

[hardy flax]

ive been into pioneer recently though

do you play any other formats other than PD?

[half moon]

not much, I was getting into legacy a bit and also had a bit where I tried pioneer

pioneer is very cool conceptually but every deck there feels like a midrange removal pile to me 😄

I know it's not true but that's what it felt like 😄

[hardy flax]

yeah there was a time when rakdos mid was like the nuts

and 25% of the meta share

[half moon]

years ago I also used to play like a bit of modern and standard, but that's a long time ago 😄

I don't play any paper mtg now

[hardy flax]

same

I personally think pioneer is pretty diverse

but mono green devotion seems to be the most powerful deck atm

[half moon]

it felt like it had nice potential for deckbuilding -- I was tinkering with elves, but that felt terrible against the removal pile meta, and afterwards I built a song of creation brew which also probably wasn't great but it was super fun

also probably like the only deck that can turn 2 in pioneer 😄

[hardy flax]

song of creation was super fun

I used to love modern but maybe im just a boomer I don't personally enjoy the additions of MH

[half moon]

yeah MH2 was especially terrible

the pitch elementals are so dumb

and ragavan of course

well most of MH2 basically

the new lotr set is similar too, it's like not as bad but the orcish bowmasters and the ring are so pushed

I hate that kind of design

[hardy flax]

Honestly if those were straight to legacy I think the power level matches with legacy but not modern at the time

because those were clearly designed to be the nuts

[half moon]

yeah

but it would still ruin legacy 😄

urzas saga is another one

[hardy flax]

yeah

[half moon]

literally every format it is in is just super shifted by it

[hardy flax]

the commander products seem to hurt legacy more though

[half moon]

yeah that is funny too, the initiative stuff

[hardy flax]

yeah

[half moon]

like when their random stuff starts making waves in vintage they just screwed up

and it seems to happen basically every second set now 😄

[hardy flax]

it feels a bit bad but at least I have the comforts of pioneer for now😀

[half moon]

yeah, pd is also safe from this kind of stuff 😄

[hardy flax]

true

I apprecieted that when I played

[half moon]

I mostly wouldn't even care about broken cards, but when the broken cards shift whole formats, basically rotating them, where a deck costs hundreds of dollars...

[hardy flax]

I should play more PD but i need to sit down and brew something

that was honestly the worst part about it because of moderns old reputation of being able to build a deck and a year later it was still playable

I remember the mardu pyro days

[half moon]

yeah

I didn't really get too much into modern luckily, but I had a charbelcher deck back before mdfcs were a thing 😄 😄

it's not the same with mdfcs

[hardy flax]

i played limited with a friend and belched him out that card has a soft spot for me

[half moon]

well I still have the deck but like a quarter of the deck is banned now because they declared war on all rituals 😄

modern just has a ridiculous ban list now 😄

[hardy flax]

oh yeah like I can't believe arcum's astrolabe was even printed

[half moon]

and they are probably just gonna ban the bowmasters and the ring too, and people are going to get screwed off their 100 dollar cards

its just insane

[hardy flax]

apparently the one ring wasn't actually a problem from what I heard but maybe its just copium from modern players

atleast from the results of the most recent tournament

[half moon]

it's possible, I am not watching modern at all honestly

I watch some legacy videos and it seems to be around often there, so I was just guessing that in modern it is even more 😄

[hardy flax]

yeah its taken over legacy

do you have a favourite set btw?

or block/era

[half moon]

hard to say

I don't actually know 😄

[hardy flax]

fair enough it's a hard question

[half moon]

I started playing around when time spiral released if I remember 😄 -- I enjoy mtg the most since I started playing pd probably

[hardy flax]

my all time favourite set is Throne of Eldraine

but it hurts seeing people hate on it

due to its power level

[half moon]

it's extremely high power level yeah

I played arena a bit around that time, and arena is so bad

[hardy flax]

because thematically it was on of the best sets I think they ever made

[half moon]

arena felt so soulless to me

before that I played only paper

well I tried mtgo very shortly but didn't really play it

[hardy flax]

I played mostly free alternatives honestly because MTG is such an expensive game to play

[half moon]

after playing arena for a bit I quit mtg again, but then like a few years (?) later I remembered hearing about pd and that actually made me like mtg again

[half moon]

yeah, it's my main problem with mtg

[hardy flax]

I played arena and what I can say is if you suck at drafting there is no way you can build a collection as a F2P

[half moon]

arena feels so so bad

[hardy flax]

yeah

I really appreciate the loan programs on MTGO actually

[half moon]

it's probably even just cheaper to play mtgo

yeah

[hardy flax]

it's been a great service for the community

I have been enjoying playing MTG on tabletop simulator

There must be a official community for playing it on there but I need to find it lol

[half moon]

😄

I think there are a few mtg simulators -- cockatrice? and theres another one

that have communities

one of them has rules simulation the other doesnt

[hardy flax]

yeah I saw it somewhere I don't remember it's name I know cockatrice I played on that a bit but people on there I found to be a bit more toxic

[mossy rain]

Mahjong moment

Time to make a mahjong version of balatro, im sure that has even more of an audience

[scarlet hound]

Guys, from what country you guys from? Just Curiosity

[leaden jetty]

England UK, it's in the name 😛

[opaque plank]

B E L 👏👏👏 B E L 👏👏👏 B E L 👏👏👏 🇧🇪

[high lichen]

Agreed

[high lichen]

Of all sets in the last 4 years I hard agree with this statement. It was very very cool. And probably the only time I actually enjoyed standard (after the oko ban though)

[ruby lake]

the other is xmage

[ruby lake]

Also i dont wanna remember that time of the game because even with oko gone we had catoven fires of invention and other stuff

[ruby lake]

Mtg people what do you think of the 3 year plan of magic

[vast flame]

are you talking about the changes to the standard rotation?

[ruby lake]

i mean more the 3 years of sets they anounced

[kind pendant]

So coaching isn't allowed at evo. How could you know someone looking at their phone between games isn't being coached?

[brazen moat]

Coaching's been allowed since 2017 mate

Guy who lost the Tekken losers' finals left his seat to go talk to his between each round, no biggie

[halcyon marten]

Idk really

Never planning on buying sets again

Last booster box I bought was war of spark so 🤷‍♂️

[ruby lake]

My man i started with war

[zinc sun]

I was hoping my boy KBR would win Marvel again but it wasn't in the cards ><

[ashen granite]

@glass thorn do you have any suggestions for games like Storybook Brawl? I used to love Hearthstone Battlegrounds before they made it pay2win :(

[glass thorn]

I honestly wish I did but aside from Super Auto Pets I haven’t found anything like it. I got into Battlegrounds soon after the shutdown but it never hit the same as SBB

Like you said only 2 hero selections for f2p annoyed me and I could never get the hang of the meta

I’d be winning fights then I’d run into a juggernaut, take 35 damage, and die lol

Although I did hear that the original SBB devs are working on something new, hopefully it comes out soon

[little cypress]

Hatred, The more we stray from Block-Core-Block the more upset I get

[ruby lake]

But those are some banger sets doe

[quaint barn]

might be a bit random but anyone know a game with extremely complex, almost programming like magic systems? arranging runes etc

[halcyon marten]

Waiting for sliver set

Been running sliver deck on mtg arena for week now

Nasty

[opaque plank]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/306550/Runers/ I didn't play a ton of this when it came out, so maybe I'm misremembering how complex the rune system was

Steam

Runers

Runers is a top-down rogue-like dungeon shooter where you explore a vast underground labyrinth and face fierce monsters and bosses. As the game advances further into the dungeon, you will gather Runes, which will be used to combine into 285 unique spells. Discovering new spells will unlock their entries in your Runedex; unlock them all! But be c...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

217

Metacritic

68

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1498040/Bio_Prototype/ is also fun, making you chain spells in somewhat of a programmatic way, but I wouldn't call it "extremely" complex.

Steam

Bio Prototype

When you woke up, you realized that you have been transformed into a monster. A wave of irrational experimentation rushes towards you. Hurry up and mutate! evolution! Become scarier monsters than them! Use flesh and blood to bloom a way of survival! 19 characters, more than 40 kinds of organs, and endless build combinations！Build unique skill co...

Price

$3.99

Recommendations

1939

▶ Play video

[nimble whale]

Bio Prototype is a lot of fun

[quaint barn]

ah, is runers' magic system kinda like magicka?

[opaque plank]

I don't know the system Magicka has, and I have forgotten the system Runers has, so I have no idea twice 🙃

[quaint barn]

looks interesting, also that is an ancient game by today's standards

[sullen portal]

you could play TIS-100 but that's just a complex programming system game

[hidden notch]

wait but opus magnum is that but not programming 👀

[sullen portal]

same guy

[hidden notch]

try out opus magnum if you havent yet, the whole game is arranging runes in a sort of mechanical programming language

[hidden notch]

oh believe me I know, ive played all of zactronics games like that lol

(notably I have not beaten them all, just played )

[quaint barn]

yeah I suppose opus magnum is close to what I'm imagining

[ruby lake]

I beat the tarot card solitaire in the solitaire collection once

[hidden notch]

damn thats the only zachtronics solitaire game I didnt know about bcuz its specific to the solitaire collection lol

didnt realize trhere was a collection specific game

[ruby lake]

Yep and it is a hard af i think that one win took like 5-6 hours of grinding

[hidden notch]

daaaaaaaaaaaaamn

[ruby lake]

well the games also take like 30 mins for a full board but still

[hidden notch]

I really want an offical mobile app for sigmars garden lol

its such a chill solitaire game I could just throw a few games at it when I have a few mins of downtime at work or something

[ruby lake]

sigmars garden is nice

But that long of a wintime might be because im just bad idk

[hardy flax]

You can try out wildfrost the game that might align with your interests but in terms of like PvP its a relatively small genre in terms of options so you have TFT if you like playing casually

[ruby lake]

Guys compeditive online solitaire exists and i love it

[ruby lake]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1948800/Yi_Xian_The_Cultivation_Card_Game/ this maybe

Steam

Yi Xian: The Cultivation Card Game

Cards BuildingYou will draw a lot of cards on the path of cultivation.You need to choose the appropriate cards from them and build your deck.Exert biggest power of your cards by combining and collocating them.Sub-ProfessionIn each game, you can choose a Sub-Profession.Each Sub-Profession has a set of exclusive cards.The same character can build ...

Price

$7.99

Recommendations

3040

▶ Play video

[ashen granite]

I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not

I prefer this from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs8XDWAuvEg

[halcyon marten]

Got out of gold in mtg

Was hard stuck with deck for last week

[nimble whale]

question: what do the average Balatro player and the average Roll player have in common?

[sullen portal]

this sounds like a setup for a joke

[ruby lake]

THey have a crippeling gambeling adiction

[nimble whale]

that too but something else

answer: they are incapable of reading

[sullen portal]

speaking of which @leaden jetty did you track all your misplays and will you compile them into a single video for the coda to your Balatro playtest series

[leaden jetty]

Nah that kind of filing system/intricate editing is far too time consuming. I basically never edit so that I can make more videos more succinctly

[humble whale]

that's just the average gamer

[opaque plank]

What is?

[timid tiger]

There's definitely something to having a game insert rules that are counter to normal play. Really hard to break those habits for a single round.

Not sure if there are other hearthstone battlegrounds players, but similar things happen when the game's quests make you adopt game specific rules. Really easy to misplay.

[hidden notch]

@timid tiger to continue the convos, another thing that is never explained is that when you are against the necromancer enemy, they will never activate their grave cards to lower the values. But YOU can!

And the dev was being kinda coy about it on the forum saying that's why she has so much hp vs all the others

[timid tiger]

lol

[hidden notch]

I feel like it's just a programming fault that only the player can interact with grave cards, and they can interact with the enemies grave cards lol

[timid tiger]

Right, reminds me of other games where game mechanics used in unintentional ways became strategies.

[hidden notch]

"it's a feature not a bug" sort of thing but then also the feature is never explained so most players miss it

[timid tiger]

Feign Death in EQ was a biggie.

[hidden notch]

To an extent I don't like it because now there is precedent set that there are hidden differences between the player and enemy that are strategically important

Enemies just don't interact with the mechanics the same way players do, so it's not just a health pool and deck difference

Which is what it seems like when you first play

[timid tiger]

That makes sense. It doesn't seem obvious that you have influence like that in the beginning.

Most card games set the expectation of what you have influence over. ex. You can't click on the other players hand, and their cards can be viewed, but you can't move or interact in the same way as your own hand/play field.

I think you're on to something with the bug vs feature thing.

[hidden notch]

Yeah it really feels like they couldn't get the enemy AI to properly interact with some of the mechanics and instead of working on that (admittedly difficult) problem, they just left it at that and let the player make those choices instead lol

Which is a shame because the demo was generally very engaging, but it seems to have some issues closer to the core

[analog slate]

I like blackjack but in the blackjack roguelite game it was hard to figure out how all the cards interacted with one another. Plus the font was pretty hard to read

[spare sierra]

#1

#2

[leaden jetty]

So balatro has hit #12 in hours played. BG3 will surely overtake Civ V soon, then everything else is just game's I've played for youtube or roguelikes I got my brain deep inot

[opaque plank]

😔

[spare sierra]

#3 lol I'm an awful gamer

[leaden jetty]

Fun fact I am world rank #4 in this rhythm game

[opaque plank]

it's funny how quickly your name turns into Lorduk without the proper capitalization

[leaden jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKsyvH5ekMo rhythm game in question

[nimble whale]

my top 5

[leaden jetty]

What is Antimatter Dimentions?

[ruby lake]

a idle game

[opaque plank]

oh I think I've seen that game on Tokaku's channel. It looks insane to me

[nimble whale]

probably the best idle game i've played so far

[ruby lake]

but NGU exists doe?

[nimble whale]

haven't played that

[jovial steeple]

the big and powerful three

[timid tiger]

The duality of man.

[ruby lake]

Best part is ingame it tracks the time since the savefile was started and uh this a kinda old savefile

[leaden jetty]

who knew a username I picked when I was 12 would follow me to an internet identity 20 years later

[hardy flax]

I loved slay the spire so much that I wrote a essay about it for one of my uni classes

[leaden jetty]

my steam account is old enough to drink here

[hardy flax]

I have more time in factorio but idk how much more because I played it before it was even on steam

[spare sierra]

StS is absolutely nuts. Hard to see what is going on here but looking at these numbers makes no sense at all

[ruby lake]

Well snakerx did not have enough replayability for 100 hours playtime

[leaden jetty]

22% of STS players have 100_+ hours then

[jovial steeple]

that's insane that over a fifth of your playerbase stayed until 100 hours

[timid tiger]

Dang, out gamered

[spare sierra]

Truly absurd

[half moon]

slay the spire is like the best game ever designed probably

without hyperbole

[leaden jetty]

nah you got me

[jovial steeple]

it's completely valid, it's been the game to curb my balatro cravings

just gotta grind the events

[timid tiger]

Most of my achievements/things from Steam came from the original Humble Bundle days.

[leaden jetty]

Nah too busy grnding youtube backend admin

[hardy flax]

yeah I played StS so much and haven't found anything else to scratch the PvE itch in a deckbuilder

[timid tiger]

Unfortunately for me, everything I grind outside of work has no monetary value.

[leaden jetty]

I call this chart "The Balatro Effect"

[jovial steeple]

100k of that was probably me

[timid tiger]

Your Balatro videos are my evening wind down content. So I'm a couple hundred at least.

[jovial steeple]

honestly the best part of finding balatro and Gothic is my youtube recommended has been pushing so many low subcount channels now

gothic broke my recommends and I cannot be more grateful

[opaque plank]

Well I love Slay the Spire so much, I got it permanently engraved into my skin

[jovial steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-leo-gif-22301847

[timid tiger]

The colors on that are great.

[opaque plank]

I'm very happy with it, the artist did an amazing job

[ruby lake]

I can identify envenom but what are the other cards there?

[opaque plank]

Uppercut, Glacier and Apotheosis

I would have liked a Watcher card, except none of them had any art I remotely liked

if I was still in the planning stage, I would have picked 4 cards from different card games instead, and Ride The Bus would definitely have been in there

[timid tiger]

One last Steam account flex.

[supple furnace]

I think my most played on steam is Terraria

I'm i think somewhere close to 5k

Ive got 3.something on my main account

[ruby lake]

Why no claw doe

[opaque plank]

is that how much you've spent on it?

[supple furnace]

500+ on my first steam account

[opaque plank]

I like Claw but the art is kind of boring. Glacier looks so majestic

[timid tiger]

That is the amount of money in my steam account from selling TF2 items and some of those trading cards, I think.

[opaque plank]

oh that makes way more sense

[timid tiger]

I believe I had a grandiose plan of buying keys for boxes with just in game profits.

[hidden notch]

My top played steam games, biggest flex for me is that flash Isaac is still in the top 3 despite not playing it since the new Isaac came out lol

Also I played like 1000+ hours of flash Isaac off of steam for sure

I do not recommend anyone play flash Isaac in 2023 it's actually garbage LMAO it runs like shit

All of my hours in Starbound are from alpha before they completely changed the game it used to have a more incremental game sort of progress that took longer to get through and I used to hang on creative servers a lot lol

[hardy flax]

ive played flash isaac sometime in covid and it was awful i remember it being so good lmao

I really liked old starbound tbh

[hidden notch]

Same! I used to recommend flash Isaac to people back in the day and in retrospect I don't understand why they listened

Modern Isaac with repentance is one of the best roguelites to every exist for sure

[jovial steeple]

starbound for me suffers from the I wanna play with friends but my friends have vastly more time to waste so they kill god while I'm at work

[hidden notch]

New Starbound is much more polished but it also isn't fun to me lol

New Starbound is just terraria but all the content isn't memorable

[spare sierra]

I would absolutely love to see the internal stats for Isaac like that chart I shared. I bet the numbers are better than StS

[hidden notch]

It would be insane for sure

Id love to see it over time as well

[spare sierra]

Because 100 hours in that game is just scratching the surface

[hidden notch]

I bet it's insane during rebirth, and dips throughout the AB/AB+ DLC eras and then comes back up for rep

100 hours in Isaac is literally nothing yeah

[hardy flax]

isaac was a really important game for the genre honestly im really glad it came out

[hidden notch]

Yeah same

[hardy flax]

i've been burnt out from isaac for a while though which is unfortunate because I really love the game

[hidden notch]

One important thing to take away from Isaac is that the breadth of content isnt what lead to it's success (there wasnt much on launch) but rather it's highly varied between runs

I'm burnt out on it EXCEPT when my girlfriend wants to play which is often lol

[hardy flax]

lmao

[hidden notch]

I don't play to grind achievements anymore, I just send a few runs with her a few times a week to the chest

Bcuz the chest is still the fun route

[hardy flax]

I like the chest and void a fair bit

[jovial steeple]

I think I've watched so much of northernlion playing it in the past I never had the craving to even buy it

[hardy flax]

the darkroom has been pretty good though ever since they changed it

[hidden notch]

We installed a ton of content mods for Isaac finally and Fiend Folio makes it feel like a totally new game

[spare sierra]

The fact that an incredible game designer like Ed hasn't been able to make a hit since rebirth speaks volumes about how hard it is to find a good methodology for designing games. I think so so much of whether or not you have a fun gameloop is just luck

[hidden notch]

It's 100% luck

I love Ed to bits, but I honestly don't love him as a designer lol, I credit a lot of his best work to the programmers behind him

[spare sierra]

He obviously has the skills to push the boundaries far outside the core mechanics to fill out a game - but coming up with a new engaging mechanic feels impossible. Just a roll of the die

[hidden notch]

Florian for flash, Tyler for the end is nigh and the upcoming mewgenics

_Kilburn for repetance

And isaac was shit for AB and AB+ bcuz it was just Nicalis managing the game and they are actually leeches on the industry

I think Ed does well as a designer because he is so far removed from the process of programming that he simply doesn't care if something is difficult to program - he doesn't even know lol

[timid tiger]

Entire genres suffer from trying to recapture whatever lightning in a bottle created huge success. MMOs are a great example of that.

[jovial steeple]

game design in the modern day goldrush

[hidden notch]

Yeah absolutely, though in the case of MMOs they got screwed by the whole industry shifting in ways that made the model unsustainable

[spare sierra]

I just hear a lot about what works and what doesn't in game design but I don't know if anybody really is an expert. Like @timid tiger said most mechanics you play are either borrowed from some other novel game or combined with other mechanics to seem fresh

[hidden notch]

Yeah

[hardy flax]

I think MMO's also aren't as popular anymore probably because people that did play them value their time more now

[spare sierra]

That's why I think Tetris is 100% genius. That game is truly novel, it didn't come from some real life game. It's such a pure idea

[hidden notch]

I definitely agree that in all likelihood nobody can be an "expert" in something as broad as game design, but you can be very experienced

[timid tiger]

That is definitely part of it. I think time is a key part in other ways, too. Game players are more eager to conquer content as quickly as possible.

[hidden notch]

From what I've read it's a combo of the cost to generate content rising (while the expendable income of the masses stayed the same, as did game prices) in addition to an oversaturated market

[jovial steeple]

I love the stuff nintendo says inspires them to make games. "Yeah, I liked collecting bugs. So I came up with pikmin"

[hardy flax]

I was designing a card game for fun with my friend and we didn't really agree with anything so I realized that game design is kinda hell lol

[hidden notch]

Pikmin is such an interesting game, idk if anything else hits similarly

No individual part is especially unique but the whole is so much more than the sum of it's parts

And the visual style is off the charts

[spare sierra]

Those really distinct games are so much more rare than you'd think considering how many games are being released

[hidden notch]

Yea

[spare sierra]

I think StS is like that too. Now there are a million clones but it was fresh at the time

[hidden notch]

100%, it felt revolutionary when I played it lol

[timid tiger]

If you have a love of MMOs and are interested in game dev, you should check out https://www.youtube.com/@alovingrobot406. He does occasional podcast style streams with EverQuest developers.

[hidden notch]

I feel like a lot of the StS clones just add more mechanics and make runs longer and it's not very engaging to me

[hardy flax]

I think for my over the years of grinding MMO's I wasn't getting enough enjoeyment so I moved onto playing ARPG's but after a while I kinda fell out of love with those too so nowadays I play a lot of indie games

[hidden notch]

It's like playing StS with 50 pound weights on

[hardy flax]

my love for card games has never stopped atleast

[jovial steeple]

Do you guys have any cardlike roguelites like StS you can recommend?

I'm new to the card and deck building scene honestly. MTG made my brain hurt through highschool so I avoided them all.

[hardy flax]

check out vault of the void maybe

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1135810/Vault_of_the_Void/

Steam

Vault of the Void

A Single-player Roguelite card game where you're in control. Vault of the Void is built on the idea of providing a low RNG experience, throwing as much control into the players hands as possible. Card Rewards are public knowledge, and you can preview which enemies you'll be fighting before an encounter, with a chance to tailor your deck to suit!...

Price

$17.99

Recommendations

1906

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[spare sierra]

I haven't played a 'play cards to damage enemies' game that was nearly as fun as StS, not to say there aren't good ones

[jovial steeple]

someone recommended that poker DND game awhile back and I've been contemplating

[timid tiger]

I find some fun playing private servers for MMOs. Project 1999 for EQ and a few Ultima Online servers. But, ultimately I feel the same way. The new ones just don't do it for me.

[hidden notch]

People really love monster train but it never gelled with me

[hardy flax]

I really like monster train

[hidden notch]

It's just too much for me I think

[hardy flax]

yeah I can feel that

[hidden notch]

StS's complexity comes from emergent gameplay vs monster train just front loading it

[leaden jetty]

ZOR Pilgrimage of the Slorfs is a really fun one in development

[hardy flax]

the game is sorta weird in the way that you are always trying to make a busted build

[timid tiger]

I had more fun playing Vampire Survivors than any of the new MMOs that came out in the last few years.

[hardy flax]

vampire survivors is great

i played alot of the clones

some of them are good but like there are so many bad ones

[hidden notch]

Vampire survivors is another case of a random indie game just blowing up out of nowhere and starting a genre lol

[jovial steeple]

I've never felt my time sucked away as fast as that game lol. Three hours in three minutes.

[timid tiger]

Or ARPGs. Although I'm too something for Path of Exile

[opaque plank]

sane

[timid tiger]

simpleton

[spare sierra]

That's how seldom a really new idea comes along, every time it happens the whole game dev world shifts

[timid tiger]

If I open a menu with 10000 buttons I just close it.

[hardy flax]

I think POE is bogged down by all it's complex systems

[timid tiger]

It's a game that needs a spreadsheet and a tab on the spreadsheet explaining the spreadsheet. nope

[jovial steeple]

seems like the new really cool idea that I wish would shift the dev world is releasing completely functioning, non dlc day one video games....

[hidden notch]

The thing with PoE is it shouldn't even have all of those menus because only 3 people actually know how they work so 99.999% of the people playing just use a build guide lol

[hardy flax]

I think diablo 3 was actually really good for it's simplicity and later in its lifespan I really enjoyed it but everyone was bashing it because they liked POE better

[hidden notch]

It's like thousands of dev hours on a feature 3 people engage with

[spare sierra]

I'm working on it 🙂

[hardy flax]

trying to make your own build in POE is such a nightmare

I usually play SSF and want to be a bit creative but I give up because I ain't putting in 100 hours of my life crunching the numbers

[spare sierra]

I'm getting the 3rd degree in the steam forums and youtube comments for trying to do that though - I don't know what happened I thought people wanted devs to respect the gamers

[hidden notch]

Yeah, at that point is PoE really better than any given diablo game? Because in one you can actually choose a build with no guide and in the other you can't lol

People are addicted to the idea of options existing even if they don't use them personally

[hardy flax]

People are impatient and want their dopamine rush right away I think and move on to the next game instead of seeing quality work

[jovial steeple]

People are hassling you? That's crazy! I mean these triple A million dollar games being unplayable until four months later.

[hidden notch]

All the broken games in the world won't stop gamers from being impatient

[spare sierra]

Sometimes I see a new AAA game coming out and I just say 'oh maybe I'll play that next year when it's a working game'

[hardy flax]

my thoughts exactly at some point I think the people playing POE are like getting some sort of superiority complex about how smart they are for learning all these god awful systems lol

[hidden notch]

But by the time it's functional everyone has forgotten about it! So I guess I'll just skip all AAA games 🤷

[jovial steeple]

when I was in middle school, my brother preordering a game ment it was going to be really fun and cool. Now it's a waste of time.

last game I preordered was black flag...

[spare sierra]

oof

Halo 3 for me lmao

[hardy flax]

black flag is so good its not even an AC game

[hidden notch]

The people who get the superiority complex don't even learn the systems tho! They just know they exist! It's so funny to me

I think PoE is a fine game but 99% of its complexity could be ripped out overnight and people would only notice because the UI changed

[spare sierra]

There's a min max type of gamer that I think really enjoys having a million obtuse mechanics because that means there is always some incremental way to do better

regardless of how fun those mechanics even are

[jovial steeple]

I think black mage in final fantasy 14 literally looks like driving stick

[hidden notch]

I definitely understand that (though it's not how I play games) but I feel like PoE is so obtuse most players can't actually minmax anyway because they can't do it as a full time job

[hardy flax]

personally im not 100% a min max gamer I like doing my own thing and min max whatever creative build I wanted to work on but the amount of mechanics that people don't even use is crazy

[jovial steeple]

like what am I looking at. I need a legend to interpret these hieroglyphs

[hardy flax]

I used to be a black mage gamer and its confusing for sure

[spare sierra]

Yeah I am also not a min max person at all

[jovial steeple]

ooops, all ui!

[spare sierra]

Give me a reasonable amount of mechanics that all synergize with eachother. That way you don't need to describe things

[hidden notch]

Keep fighting the good fight against minmax people and resist their desire to see what's left in the deck at a moments notice lol

[spare sierra]

It would just make Balatro less fun, straight up

[hidden notch]

And it would be ass to watch

[hardy flax]

I never actually played WoW but I remeber watching streams of the game and was like what the hell is this spreadsheet

[hidden notch]

Mmo gamers yearn for the office jobs

[jovial steeple]

I've wondered if games could ever create like a second window to allow your ui to exist on another monitor. I remember when I played destiny 2 there was a great website for just changing items on the fly, it was lifechanging

[hidden notch]

For WoW most of the info shown on the screen is relevant to the combat at hand

[spare sierra]

Nintendo DS has left the chat

[hidden notch]

So moving it to another monitor would make it harder to read

Or at least harder to react based on it

[jovial steeple]

I hate that you're right

[opaque plank]

I played WoW for two years at a decently high raid level, it's fun to balance "need to know information on the screen" with "need to see screen area for fire on the floor"

but it's not for everyone

[hidden notch]

I love the DS but I'm ok with 2 display devices falling out of popularity

Kinda a compatability nightmare

[hardy flax]

im kinda the opposite I used to have only one monitor

now that I have 2

[jovial steeple]

shouldn't be an issue with nintendo actually ports their DS library instead of letting it die... right nintendo....??? nintendo...???

[hidden notch]

Oh I have 3 monitors for my PC setup, but I don't own games that use all 3

[leaden jetty]

Pc game should just optimise for 4 monitor set ups with some vertical displays

[hidden notch]

DS having multiple displays is totally different to a multitasking device having multiple displays

[hardy flax]

yeah I dont expect you to use all 3 for games but I still use both my monitors lol

[hardy flax]

I guess that's true

[spare sierra]

Multiple monitor support sounds like literal hell

[hidden notch]

One is bad enough!

[spare sierra]

You joke but one really is bad enough

[jovial steeple]

steam forum post #9968, why does this game not work on my 480p CRT that I have running through a VGA to analog converter?>???!?!?

[hidden notch]

I don't joke! Its only doable on the shoulders of decades of geniuses lol

[hardy flax]

I guess the other thing is some games dual monitors are nice to have one for the wiki and the other for the game itself

actually

I kinda dislike any game that would make me pull up the wiki at this point

[hidden notch]

LMAO I was gonna say the same thing

[jovial steeple]

there's something methodical about having a wiki open though

stardew with a wiki open just feels cozy idk

[hidden notch]

Despite me playing so much isaac

[hardy flax]

but like isaac was so ingrained in my memory I just knew what everything did so I didnt need a wiki

[hidden notch]

I play with EID now

Insane that it's not a part of the base game

[hardy flax]

yeah

[hidden notch]

Like holy shit imagine Balatro but there are NO DESCRIPTIONS?????

[hardy flax]

I think the original idea is you pick up what this item is

and them see what the hell it does

[hidden notch]

Like the description is "he's funny"

[jovial steeple]

someone said in the suggestions awhile back along the lines of they wish the cards didn't say what they did before you grabbed them

[hidden notch]

Isaac player spotted

[hardy flax]

but then it became a hassle because of all the item syngergies and what they did

[jovial steeple]

I think they were trying to justify unlocking them by picking them up but it would be hell

[opaque plank]

someone get a mod in here, conversation in #🃏・off-topic is veering dangerously close to actual Balatro content

[jovial steeple]

snitch

[opaque plank]

🙃

[spare sierra]

I tried that actually, in an early build

It was garbo

Just a waste of time

[hidden notch]

Isaac only gets away with it because it pioneered a damn genre

[hardy flax]

I think it worked in isaac actually initially

[hidden notch]

Back when items were much easier to understand yeah

It worked better

But still not that great tbh

[opaque plank]

the main reason why it worked for Rogue clones and the like a thousand years ago is because people didn't know games could be fun

[spare sierra]

lol

[hidden notch]

I think if a rogue fan heard you imply that Isaac is a rogue clone they would rip your head off

[spare sierra]

I thought games were for ruining the brains of children?

[hardy flax]

I always felt a little bad when my friends watched my play isaac and were like what the hell does every item do

[hidden notch]

Rogueheads when the rogueLITE is called rogueLIKE

[opaque plank]

I didn't wanna use the word "roguelike" to refer to Rogue for that specific reason 😩

[hidden notch]

The genre seriously needs to be renamed but that basically can't happen

[spare sierra]

What would be a good name?

[opaque plank]

just rename Rogue, less hassle

[spare sierra]

Replayable permadeath?

[hidden notch]

Most genre names suck so my bar is low, I just wouldn't want it to be named after a specific title

[spare sierra]

run based?

[hidden notch]

Replayable permadeath game, RPG! That works

[opaque plank]

an Isaacesque

[hardy flax]

I've actually played a few roguelikes and i realized that even though rogue has birthed one of my favourite genre's I kinda hate it lmao

[hidden notch]

Isaaclike would be so much better than roguelike but then the genre will just shift away from Isaac and the same situation happens

[leaden jetty]

Remove the term ironman from strategic games and just replace it with a Roguelike setting instead

[spare sierra]

'but StS doesn't have a character that kills enemies directly, its an Isaacesque-esque'

[hidden notch]

An isaacLITE

VERY important it's LITE not LIKE if I don't think it's close enough to the original

[opaque plank]

we could come up with a spectrum for this, I'm sure

A is more Isaacesque, B is clearly only Isaacish

[hardy flax]

Xcom-lite

[spare sierra]

lmao that is why I called Balatro a roguelite, I feel so seen

[hidden notch]

Roguelite is the safe pick in all contexts

If you use roguelike someone who really likes rogue will hate you

[hardy flax]

I've given up on what genres people name things at this point

[opaque plank]

people who really like Rogue are 60 by now, they already hate everyone

[leaden jetty]

N64 no save game pack so every time you play you start from 0

Mode

[hidden notch]

JRPG is another genre that needs renaming because it doesn't really describe Japanese RPGs anymore

It's a broad genre of game that are like the old Japanese RPGs, but they aren't all Japanese anymore, and not all RPGs from Japan are JRPGS

The genre naming issue exists all over

[dense salmon]

It now stands for Jenuine RPGs

[leaden jetty]

There are now only 3 genres for all media. Text - Picture - Sound

[hidden notch]

Also CRPG makes no sense anymore but it makes sense in the context of its history

[leaden jetty]

Sculpture didn't make the cut

[floral night]

@leaden jetty you still playing roll? i left the discord a while ago but that game is so chill.

[dense salmon]

A sculpture is just a live action picture

[leaden jetty]

Waiting for Roll 2.0 update to come along later this year then I'll be playing it heaps

[floral night]

scratch that, im still in there. its just muted haha

[spare sierra]

A sculpture can change over time though the picture is static, a sculpture is at most a picturelike

You know I played picture when it came out in 1980

[hidden notch]

Idk it's not flat, pictureLITE at best

[dense salmon]

Hold on, pictures can deteriorate.

[opaque plank]

what about my 1000 word essay, it's worth exactly as much as a picture

less replayable, but more content

[spare sierra]

That saying is way off, a picture is worth way more than 1000 words

[hidden notch]

My 10000 word essay is designed to be read in any order so it's infinitely rereadable

[dense salmon]

Due to inflation

[spare sierra]

I bet someone has done the math and tried to find how many words an average picture is worth

[hardy flax]

10000 word essay survivor now that's a video game

[hidden notch]

This is one of those problems that would give you entirely different answers depending on how you solve it, and no single answer is incorrect

Devil is in the details kinda thing

[dense salmon]

How about a picture of a word?

[hidden notch]

Picture of a word is still worth more words than the word itself

[spare sierra]

wow
https://www.nortridge.com/blog/data-storage-how-many-words-is-a-picture-really-worth/

[hidden notch]

You would have to describe it's font and color etc

[dense salmon]

Word.

[dense salmon]

Nice

[hidden notch]

That's interesting, I wasnt even thinking about it that way! I was thinking about the number of words it would take to describe the picture

[hardy flax]

have you guys ever seen those posts where it's just screenshots of other people's screenshots

[hidden notch]

Could calc the average based on some sample set of alt texts of images for the sight impaired

[spare sierra]

Like a mandelbrot screenshot

Like this tiktok
https://www.tiktok.com/@mantisstate/video/7174692874909420805

I need to work on Balatro what am I doing

Have fun yall 🙂

[hardy flax]

good luck

[opaque plank]

have fun

[hidden notch]

Lmaooooo gl getting stuff done 👍

[cyan pelican]

would anyone be interested in playing a balatro themed jeopardy?

[timid tiger]

Grabbing the middle of a conversation here, but man oh man would an X-Com roguelike be fun. Although, I was only interested in the battles, not the whole base/research building part.

I had the same problem with Fallout 4. I loved Fallout 3/NV, but Fallout 4 building bases was not for me.

[timid tiger]

Shaman player ofc. Need a whole UI just for totems.

Ok, one last comment and I'll power down for a minute. Let's see if this sparks nostalgia for anyone else.

[leaden jetty]

Into the breach is the best I can think of

[timid tiger]

Looks pretty cool and not bad price.

[sullen portal]

into the breach is excellent and if you have netflix it's free on at least ios

[vale lark]

Wait, into the breach is on mobile?

[sullen portal]

yes but it’s gated behind Netflix https://apps.apple.com/us/app/into-the-breach/id1616542180

[vale lark]

Nice thing, might actually install it to play on the toilet

All i play on mobile is Slice and Dice and sometimes chess

[sullen portal]

slice and dice is so good as well

[red galleon]

into the breach is really good

[vale lark]

Yeah, i played both alot on pc

Does anyone here game on the steam deck?

[sullen portal]

almost exclusively

[leaden jetty]

Yes but not all the much, most of my gaming is recorded for letsplay so done in my desktop, but lovely for when I'm away from home playing coop with my partner in the same room

[opaque plank]

I've been teaching myself embroidery software the past few weeks, drew up a design, and I finally got to rent some time on a machine at the local makerspace today

I made a Ride The Bus patch

had some slight issues, but I'm very pleased with the result overall

[sullen portal]

that's amazing!

[outer knoll]

Love it!!!

[ancient raptor]

@leaden jetty what have you done?

[leaden jetty]

In a puzzle game, after 3 bonus unlocks, an NPC in the hub starts a conversation with you to unlock the next component of the puzzle journey. I wanted to start my next letsplay episode on that beat, so I restarted the screen, but that broke the conversation and the unlock didn't unlock.
Dev recreated it and fixed it and pushed an update within 15 hours.

[ancient raptor]

oh, so you were able to get it fixed in a simple way? nice

[spare sierra]

That's so awesome

[opaque plank]

thanks! I made it actual card sized as well, so really I could shuffle this into a regular deck and I could fuck up playing face cards IRL also

[leaden jetty]

Yep, came back and the conversation prompt was right there as it should be 🙂

[quaint barn]

That patch is sick, wonder how commonplace are those embroidery machines

[quaint barn]

How much did it cost you in the end?

[opaque plank]

They charged 50 cents / minute, I ended up using it for 2 hours and they charged me €40. We had some slight hiccups and nobody had reserved the timeslot after mine, so they did me a solid. Very nice guys

[quaint barn]

interesting, that isn't expensive but simultaneously more expensive than I thought it would be, expected the time to be shorter

guess it's kinda on par with 3D printing costs when I last 3D printed at a local makerspace

[opaque plank]

yeah it's not too bad, especially considering it's a machine that costs like three grand and they basically let any random jack and jill off the street use it

[vale lark]

Which games do you play on steam deck?

[quaint barn]

get ready for your game to be blocked on certain countries if you released it on android https://blog.trampolinetales.com/luck-be-a-landlord-is-now-banned-in-13-countries-on-the-google-play-store/

south korea on the list surprised me

[sullen portal]

the SK game ratings agency has some pretty strict rules

[oak dome]

anyone play magic on MTGO? i'd love some peeps to play with from here 🙂

[hardy flax]

Yeah I wouldn't mind doing something most of my cards are from playing PD though lol so my pool is busted cards banned everywhere and really hanky cards lmao

I don't actually play MTGO that much since I convinced my friends to play on tabletop sim so we didn't need to shell out the big bucks just to play a deck once a week

[oak dome]

ah, gotcha. i'm only on MTGO, i gave up on arena a long time ago

i only play commander as well, the multiplayer format!

[ruby lake]

xmage is also an option

[mint depot]

I wanted to share my second try at making music. I'm quite proud of it. Never made any music before or anything. In the next few days I'm looking to make proper music, not a horror one but here you go.

Please give me honest, critical or any kind of review on that and tell me what you think.

[outer knoll]

It’s spooky!

[ruby lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c2PVKE1Bq8

[leaden jetty]

Peeg. Night y'all

[neon mantle]

That song has some crazy cool atmosphere. For your next song, you could try adding a basic melody to give some extra ambiance. If you are new to music theory, look up the minor scale and have some fun with it. Thanks for sharing!

[mint depot]

haha, im working on my skills

This is my third try at music

[neon mantle]

Not too shabby at all! Keep it up!

[ruby lake]

What daw are ya using?

[mint depot]

fl studio

[ruby lake]

same

[mint depot]

As my first ever attempts to make music, im so proud

[ruby lake]

Also if ya are starting out this site has a ton of articles on free plugins/ deals and stuff (This singelhandedly the reason i own like over like 2000$ of free plugins after making music for about a year and a half

https://bedroomproducersblog.com

[ashen granite]

I've been playing Luck be a Landlord (on phone!) and it's scratching the deckbuilder itch

[leaden jetty]

Man picking up Wildfrost some more and I can't wait to see some of these potential synergies I've see elements of really pop off

[zinc sun]

Yeah I recently got into it, I've had some absolutely insane runs

[jovial steeple]

Sounds like a great game, I've been grinding slay the spire for the past two weeks, do you guys think Wildfrost is worth picking up for the $25 or wait for the autumn sale?

[leaden jetty]

I don't have enough hours in it to give it a solid recommended at full price yet

[kindred badge]

Love StS and Balatro, only thing that is stopping me on Wildfrost is that I've heard it's considerably hard - has the difficulty gotten in the way of enjoying it for anyone?

[wraith jasper]

I love Wildfrost but it is very punishing yeah, you need to think a lot while playing to make sure you don't make any mistake - if you do you basically instantly die. If that sounds fine for you i think it's good

Wish it had a bit more content but i was pretty happy with my time with it

[zinc sun]

It can be very punishing for mistakes, but thankfully the mechanics are presented clearly and plainly - considering the complexity of the game (not tooo crazy to be honest) it's quite understandable. And you have infinite time for each play to suss things out. Obviously mistakes will still happen and there are ways you can play safely

Best thing I'd say is just play defensively while you're learning. Big HP characters can give you a ridiculous amount of breathing room to learn how things work and what will or not kill you.

The biggest things that consistently kill my runs are just me missing smackback or teeth, or getting overconfident and trying to transition to a more late game build too early.

I'm 14 wins/8 vanquishes/35 losses, 39% overall win rate after 64 hours of play, which I'm quite happy with. I've lost a lot more than I've won recently because I'm on the beta and I'm branching my playstyle out a lot more to try and be more experimental. Basically playing more recklessly.

[jovial steeple]

you had me all on board until the 39% winrate at 60 hours haha,that's like A10~ for me in sts but that's just regular game play. I might wait until the autumn sale and see if they do anything about it, unless they'll double down and just say they're hard. We'll see haha, thanks for the advice !

[zinc sun]

Yep, no worries! I was actually 60% or more when I first started playing. But I've been playing on max difficulty (all 3 challenge bells) and experimenting a lot more. But totally fair to wait for a sale.

I think it's kinda helped by the starter clan being probably the strongest of the three or at least the most consistent. And the game has a few mechanics to help nudge you towards victory if you don't win. They're very well implemented in a way that doesn't feel too much like a gimme.

[ashen granite]

I was in the shower and thought about the balance between "deckbuilding" and "gameplay" - it's kinda like a spectrum?

some games like Roll, Luck be a Landlord and autobattlers go 100% deckbuilding, and the gameplay is "click a button and see the results"

then into light gameplay like Balatro

then into ~half gameplay half deckbuilding, like Slay the Spire

then into more gameplay, less deckbuilding like TCG drafts ("arena")

then almost no (active) deckbuilding like constructed TCG

I bet you could make a deckbuilder alignment chart with something like this

[neon mantle]

It's kind of funny, because I love deck-building games like STS and MTG, but I reallllly suck at actually building something viable. I tend to get tunnel vision and just try to force the thing I want to play.

[hidden notch]

i specifically like games such as STS and Balatro because I tend to dislike constructed or draft formats, they require so much advance knowledge

[neon mantle]

Every time I go to a draft/sealed MTG event at my LGS, I have a couple of drinks and then feel like a kid who didn't study for a test when it comes time to actually build my deck. Always try to force esper 🙂

[leaden jetty]

Banners of Ruin is very good if you like roguelike deck builders

[opaque plank]

The Banner Saga is also very good if you like banners

[sullen portal]

what if i only like sagas

[ruby lake]

Or you just play pauper where a lot of cool shit is viable to the point that i have beaten meta decks with absolute fucking jank (Also no planeswalkers as a bonus

[neon mantle]

Just wait until War of the Spark 2 ™ when wizards decides to print some "low power" planeswalkers at common rarity. Half-joking 🙃

[finite owl]

[Reposting because I didn't realize this channel existed!]
First batch of card canvases came in to make the joker cards! They're really smooth, I guess not really canvas. If they don't work well with my paints I'll find a way to texture them. Also debating if I want to round all the edges or just keep them square, ill see how the material does with my sander.

@ivory cliff hand paint! Or use a combo of paint pens and brushes 👍🏻

• @placid eagle

[placid eagle]

Ah didn’t realize u were an artist. Saw yr works. Looks good

[finite owl]

Thank you!! 😁❤️

[vale lark]

What kind of tv-shows do you guys watch?

[neon mantle]

I like a mix of comedies and gameshow/reality stuff. Just wrapped this season of the righteous gemstones and last season of survivor

[leaden jetty]

Right as I get 10 hours into Wildfrost and learn some of the basics, they do a big update and change several of the core mechanics wooooooooo

[novel pier]

havent played wildfrost in like 3 months

[ruby lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirUOkuHK8U

[finite owl]

Got a few done today. Much different than painting the isaac items. With those I could just do whatever because the sprites were so vague but these have to be a lot more accurate. Harder, but I still like it. It'll look better as one piece when they're all done rather than each one individually lol

[finite owl]

And sanding corners to be curved was way easier than I thought it was going to be so yay 👍🏻 next will be to make a backdrop for them too. Something like the one I did for the Isaac project but I wanna do green felt like a poker table and have the cards held up by a metal staff made to look like the one from the balatro logo

[hardy flax]

for a second I thought that was the eye turret from don't starve lol

[finite owl]

Wayyy better on the second one

[sullen portal]

new case of the golden idol dlc dropped

[jovial steeple]

holycrap, the rival to starfield

[sullen portal]

friendship ended with starfield, case of the golden idol is still my best friend

[jovial steeple]

game of the millenium

todd howard tonight, probably: damn, this is gonna kill my game

[outer knoll]

Hahahahaha

We are so delighted with the response to Lemurian Vampire. I’ll make sure to drop some codes in here when the fun police let me

[sullen portal]

https://tenor.com/view/hhgf-gif-25031041

[outer knoll]

Enjoy!

LRYAY-N8EBV-B38VK
PVD59-VN4HP-IY45K
PI3QJ-ZH9JR-6VEHE
K6RNF-6X7MY-I07TK
YRRMF-X09BC-7YIIV

[sullen portal]

snagged the YRRMF code - thank you so much!!

[leaden jetty]

I tried one and it bumped me a "get base game first" message, which is very valid.

[sullen portal]

brother you are missing out

[leaden jetty]

My 'to play' list, specially for puzzle games, is obnoxiously long!

[jovial steeple]

amazeballs. I love this server, I show up two hours late for the keys and one was still living!

[jovial steeple]

I should be disappointed, because that means not alot of people in this server own golden idol actually.

[outer knoll]

I just think it’s cool that no one decided to sell them. I really like this server, good people

[quaint barn]

just occured to me, that if you look at the four blue neck things as his limbs, this joker kinda reminds me of chucky

[finite owl]

Joker headcrab

Joker headcrab

[sullen portal]

No ribbon but I did get a sloth win so today is a good day

[opaque plank]

noice, grats

[oak dome]

husky poodle combo is where its at this week

only way to get big stats fast unless you get lucky with egypt vulture and hen

[novel pier]

haven't played since they released the golden pack