🎙・server-chat

[magic swan]

thanks

[median elm]

nah the other one

[crimson pendant]

Yes which crest is the best crest in hollow knight silksong

[dense acorn]

no, this one

[magic swan]

im fr tho 😭

[rare yew]

chat I'm not in other servers, I have questions for you discord people

[long atlas]

the joker

[rare yew]

may I ask

[magic swan]

sure

[fossil basin]

Shoot

[dense acorn]

yes boss?

[crimson pendant]

No

[long atlas]

yes sir

[dense acorn]

uhoh i gotta go

[gleaming isle]

shoot i got tons of servers

[halcyon wolf]

yes

[minor prairie]

no sorry i forbid it

[dense acorn]

night chat

[halcyon wolf]

ok goodbye

[dense acorn]

night thunkster

[rare yew]

In other servers that are large-ish, like this size, how is the general chat?

[cyan wadi]

im unsure

[crimson pendant]

Gn!

[glad oriole]

sure :3

[rare yew]

do people actually chat?

[dense acorn]

keep it local, thunk

[cyan wadi]

gn

[long atlas]

yes a lot

[crimson pendant]

Say that again

[magic swan]

alot

[halcyon wolf]

for me, pretty general

[minor prairie]

pretty much just like this chat rn

[dense acorn]

[cyan wadi]

there are more balatro servers?

[glad oriole]

atrocious but theres usually multiple

[fossil basin]

This place is calm compared to other hells

[glad oriole]

true

[median elm]

yeah this place is like fairly chill

[cyan wadi]

ohh

[dense acorn]

depends on the server

[dusk tartan]

booth

[gleaming isle]

Whats the member count here?

[long atlas]

like this is extremely tame usually and when you’re on it’s roughly the rate most servers type at normally

[rare yew]

Do people get directed to off topic channels regularly from general?

[minor prairie]

Big™ with a capital B

[cyan wadi]

pretty surprising cuz the creator of balatro is here

[long atlas]

166k

[dense acorn]

ok i'll go for real now bye

[gleaming isle]

sheesh

[long atlas]

sometimes but not always

[crimson pendant]

[median elm]

well it is late or really early for like most of the population

[cyan wadi]

ig if they're spamming media in the non media channel

[cyan wadi]

idk

[rare yew]

like what, images? GIFs? Videos?

[cyan wadi]

yes

all of them usually

[median elm]

gifs are a nightmare in other places sometimes

[autumn shell]

Tenor is banned here so you can’t use gifs

[minor prairie]

i wish we could use gifs

[rare yew]

banning gifs was the single best thing that happened to this server

[fossil basin]

From what I know general is used as the meeting ground for all inside thoughts turned into random messages, an overlying theme is nearly impossible in a general chat, while the more specific chats find their users who need to talk about their desired niches ie: game discussion or modding general

[long atlas]

thunk make an alt and see other servers for yourself but undercover

[median elm]

gifs dont really add anything to the convo usually

and are just clutter

[compact stump]

i lowk agree

[crimson pendant]

Name it smth subtle like globalthunk

[gleaming isle]

Varies a couple of the large servers i have have pretty strict moderation
Like the Writing server im mostly in they try to keep most channels on topic, but mostly the ones focused on writing topics.

its a large server but im not sure its as large as here. Images and gifs arent banned but id they are off topic or spammy they get removed by staff.

[minor prairie]

but then how would i possibly send my microwave jumpscare reaction gifs?????? its impossible to live in a world like this

[crimson pendant]

Wait can that be the name of Balatro private equity/j😭

[fossil basin]

Just put gifs behind a large paywall so you get lunch money every-time someone wants to annoy the chat with a gif

[long atlas]

just pick up a rebate

[crimson pendant]

Marketable liscense!!!

[rare yew]

Ideally for me the rules for the channel (and permissions) are set up in a way where heavy moderation isn't needed (like banning GIFs)

[minor prairie]

i call dibs on 30%

and shotgun

cant say no to that

[crimson pendant]

Ok gn yall🫡

[cyan wadi]

gn

[rare yew]

People are generally okay at keeping on topic in this channel, but it's not perfect

[cyan wadi]

imma head out too gn

[crimson pendant]

Good luck with the image situation

[fossil basin]

How meta do you want a server chat to be?

[median elm]

stickers are banned here too right? because in other places stickers can kinda bog the chat occasionally

[fossil basin]

Haha I wonder which meathead you’re talking about

[rare yew]

Yes stickers are banned too

[long atlas]

more mods to redirect could be a solution

[rare yew]

I just said I wouldn't prefer that

[minor prairie]

place you need to worry about is #🕹・game-discussion they just talked about homosexual practices

[median elm]

when polls first came out they would spam chat quite a bit as well but people dont abuse it as much, but thats mostly due to them sending a "this poll is finished" message after like 30 mins or whatever

[gleaming isle]

Another large server thats political in nature is also strictly moderated but mostly to keep people in line. The channels are less topic focused. Most topic moderation is moving people having disagreements to the debate spaces. Images sre completlt disabled in the main chat there.

[long atlas]

mb i misread 😞

[glad oriole]

the subject already passed

[long atlas]

reading comprehension of a balatro player:

[minor prairie]

yeah but we steer off topic a lot in that channel tbh

[rare yew]

So it wouldn't be crazy unprecedented for me to ban images in this chat

[long atlas]

no not really

[glad oriole]

plus theres nothing inherently weong with "homosexual practices" now is there

anyway

[bitter steeple]

Six hour slowmode

[median elm]

yeah but most people in game discussion will post a "what should i take" ss and then the convo gets back to that usually

[minor prairie]

i did not ever ever imply that like at all

[glad oriole]

it wouldnt yeah

[minor prairie]

like in no way

[fossil basin]

The real question is, what is the authors intention with a server chat as compared to an off topic chat, in the sense of relation to balatro or relation to the server first and foremost

[long atlas]

just this chat, not game discussion

[rare yew]

The alternative is something I tried before, making a 'thunk chat' but that ended up being really lame to moderate and people got (rightly) upset about it

[glad oriole]

u kinda did thats all u said we were doing in your message

[gusty lantern]

you could ban all words other than the names of jokers

[rare yew]

can you both stop, please

[glad oriole]

idk i thought it was fine

[gleaming isle]

No, it just varies by server. The political server it happened because some peolle came in with bad intentions and spammed offensive images and it just stayed that way for safety

[glad oriole]

mb thunk

[minor prairie]

trying to D:

[fossil basin]

What was the thunk chat

[minor prairie]

chat where you think in the past tense

[long atlas]

essentially a q and a

[rare yew]

You wouldn't have lasted a minute endless shrimp

[median elm]

😭

[bitter steeple]

Alcatraz but a discord channel

[haughty grail]

Yo its john balatro

[rare yew]

it was basically 'you must MUST stay on topic'

[long atlas]

with HEAVY mods to stay on topic

[fossil basin]

I fear you both doubt my undeniable charm and my ability to make anything on topic

[minor prairie]

his name IS endless shrimp though so safe to assume there would be no end to their stay in there

[gleaming isle]

Im horrible at staying on topic Adhd sucks. In that writing server im always getting hipchecked

[glad oriole]

not if thunk ends it

[fossil basin]

This user freaking gets it

[glad oriole]

i have adhd too

[uneven edge]

I loved thunk chat

[glad oriole]

maybe rhats why i have such a strong urge to meow sometimes

idk

[gleaming isle]

i got the tisim as well

[rigid night]

Brb. Getting some hot water and a horse 🤣

[rigid night]

Same

[glad oriole]

idk if i have autism idt ive been tested

[gleaming isle]

Little bit of civil war going on in the brain at all times between adhd and autisim

[haughty grail]

With balatro I can gamble when the casino is closed too thank you Localthunk

[rare yew]

once 1.1 comes out this will be a very different place, so thunk chat may need to come back in some form

[glad oriole]

👀

[rare yew]

otherwise I won't even be able to have a conversation in here

I just mean it'll be way more busy

[fossil basin]

You prepping for the storm? Fair enough

[rare yew]

because of the renewed attention

[gusty lantern]

maybe add slowmode to the channels

[minor prairie]

FACT (fact checked by me): 1.1 will be coming out in the next 50 years

[glad oriole]

add 1 second slowmode

:3

[gleaming isle]

Im pretty sure Thunk won a court case that basically proved balatro isnt gambling iirc

[rare yew]

thunk chat had a 30 second slow mode quite often

[haughty grail]

Damn really

[rare yew]

no

[haughty grail]

Isnt it rated 18+ because of “gambling”?

[gleaming isle]

damn was that misinfi

[median elm]

it wasnt in court right, but it was the whole rating debacle right?

[haughty grail]

Even though its just a card game

[minor prairie]

i dont think it was a court case i think it was just "no please and thank you"

[fossil basin]

Slow mode to all major broad topic channels while some smaller topic or game chat channels are fine

[rare yew]

there was a rating debacle

[glad oriole]

what even is there to prove there isnt any gambling in it

[rare yew]

with PEGI

[zinc forge]

oh wow the thunk is in chat

[median elm]

yeah

[zinc forge]

thats cool

[rare yew]

hello!

[minor prairie]

if theres just no money being spent its not gambling

[gleaming isle]

Ahh so my brain is just altering info got it

[median elm]

pegi goes no no poker bad!!! so does youtube sometimes though

[zinc forge]

hope you're doing good thunk

[minor prairie]

if i play a slot machine video is it gambling

[median elm]

its a tough battle

[rare yew]

I'm doing great, hope you are too!

[long atlas]

goodnight fellas wish my friend a happy birthday it’s her birthday tomorrow

[rare yew]

hbd friend of Jandom

[haughty grail]

Yeah but games where children can buy cases with real money are fine

[rigid night]

Wish her happy birthday from the Balatro community for us

[uneven edge]

will the new balatro update serve to balance the game by making certain hand types more viable or a certain easy hand type less viable

[median elm]

Yeah....

[hardy oasis]

Joke

[median elm]

hmmm certain easy hand type cough cough

[glad oriole]

joke???

[uneven edge]

yeah it takes a huge pair to understand

[hardy oasis]

Joke

[rigid night]

I figured out how to hack Erratic: Flush House spam

[median elm]

big pair with a big wee sometimes

[rare yew]

I really don't want to bring thunk chat back but I may need to at some point

[minor prairie]

thunk one question did you ever intend for people to reach crazy high numbers in the hundreds of e's or even naneinf

[glad oriole]

hello joke :D

[uneven edge]

no

[hardy oasis]

hello skinkina

[rare yew]

but for now, this place has been good. Much better than when I originally made thunk chat

[uneven edge]

i’m not thunk but I don’t think breaking the float system was

intended

obviously

[gleaming isle]

Depending on how you define gambling any thing involving risk vs reward without a guaranteed outcome and rng is technically a type of gambling.

That being said with nothing of legitimate monetary value being earned or loss, risks in game dont fit under the general idea of gambling.And i think framing it that eay would be dangerous.

[median elm]

thunk chat sounds like a good idea in theory

[fossil basin]

So look, honest question here, what’s the meta purpose of this channel

[minor prairie]

actually how is this place different from #🕹・game-discussion or #🃏・off-topic

[zinc forge]

I love how the first time I ever beat a round of balatro i was listening to spongebob music

[minor prairie]

like what does one speak of in here

[haughty grail]

Can you even call balatro poker at this point

[minor prairie]

game discussion is about balatro

off topic is not balatro

[haughty grail]

The only thing from poker are the hands and the draw mechanic no

[minor prairie]

is this just chatting about discord im confused by the names

[gleaming isle]

Its a.deck building rogue like built on the asthetics of poker and poker hands thats about it

[rare yew]

this is the channel you go to chat about whatever, game discussion is to discuss the game (not that you can't discuss the game here), off topic is for off topic (not that there's always a topic here)

[minor prairie]

so like basically both™ chat

[median elm]

this is more general server / balatro stuff, whilst game discussion is more on like joker thoughts and balance at least right now a lot of balance talks

is what it feels like

[rare yew]

And I just come here to chat because I am often not talking about the game

[fossil basin]

So, my follow up is, what I was doing, what was the crime if I was engaging with current topics and making my own topics?

[gleaming isle]

i got some balance suggestions yeet the mouth out of the code /s

[fossil basin]

They’re crucifying my endless shrimp body, only at red lobster

[rare yew]

There is a difference between 'on topic' and on topic

[hardy oasis]

i have damn near a month of playtime in this game im in hell

[zinc forge]

localthunk when will you tell everyone this is a publicity stunt and reveal the game will never be updated and its all a illusion

[rare yew]

like the channel doesn't have a topic, but the conversation may have a topic

[haughty grail]

I have some “remove o*elisk” suggestions

[gritty kindle]

hello my glorious king localthunk

[fossil basin]

Seeing through my thinly veiled attempt of semantics, how clever

[rare yew]

hello my loyal subject Lazy

[rigid night]

Bring us a Jimball

[uneven edge]

does the process of obtaining that new banana joker involve gros michel or cavendish in anyway

[glad oriole]

gotta make a move to a town thats right for me

[rare yew]

wouldn't you like to know

[median elm]

i hope its an uncommon

[minor prairie]

🤵
topic =/= on topic

[uneven edge]

absolutely

[minor prairie]

left is someone on topic

right is on topic

[neat gull]

I have crawled out of the depths of the modding category to see what's up here. Sup chat

[minor prairie]

hope this helps

[rigid night]

Gotta keep me movin', keep me groovin' with some energy

[fossil basin]

I’m scared

[haughty grail]

There will be a new banana joker?

[glad oriole]

yeah

[median elm]

yeah!!

[uneven edge]

I’m hoping that there’s more than joker concept design so we can maybe get teased on what it does 🙂

[minor prairie]

yep i saw a funny image a fwe days ago

[glad oriole]

thunk gave us the tip

[median elm]

what about third banana

[uneven edge]

yes there will be

[haughty grail]

+25 mult 1 in a 1000000 chance to get destroyed?

[minor prairie]

leaked banan a joker

[hardy oasis]

there is no town accommodating to a Joke like me

[rare yew]

If I leak too much info the modders will just add it to the game ahead of time lmao

where's the fun in that???

[median elm]

yeah...

[glad oriole]

true

[fossil basin]

I like not knowing, it’s nice not to know and then letting the surprise wash over

[neat gull]

mwahahaha

[rigid night]

If they do that, steal their Jimball

[minor prairie]

hey local thunk mind sending me the files of everything you've worked on so i can make sure to tell the modding community before they remake something youve already made

[rare yew]

you laugh but it means I don't leak very much

[uneven edge]

what could they work off of if you give the rarity?!!?

[rare yew]

I'd like to

[zinc forge]

jimbo found shot dead after losing to the wall

[hardy oasis]

new update is just every single mod ever made combined into base game

[glad oriole]

thunk is your pfp an upcoming joker or nah

[neat gull]

Honestly I don't think many modders would actually do that but there will almost always be one

[rare yew]

No it's me in full business attire

[glad oriole]

crashes instantly

[glad oriole]

awesome

[errant drift]

Don't think this is a real person

[rare yew]

they would

[minor prairie]

employed wee joker

[tropic cedar]

there will be one

[rigid night]

Xbox Cryptid? Hell yeah

[glad oriole]

its clearly jumping joker

[neat gull]

That's what I'm sayin' 😭

[glad oriole]

[quasi aurora]

yo thunk

whats your favorite movie/show?

[haughty grail]

I was on a generational run yesterday until the plant happened

[gusty lantern]

thunk truly is literally a fool

[haughty grail]

At least ai passed purple stake for the first time

[minor prairie]

thunk if you remove plant from 1.1 i will personally give you 4 trillion in unmarked cash

[hardy oasis]

yo lowk i just remembered your name

[rare yew]

That's the drawback of having the game easy to mod, I can't really have secret gameplay leaks without it all being recreated ahead of time

it's not like... a huuuuge deal. It's just way more fun if the leak is a shared secret

[glad oriole]

yaay :3

i am skinky

[median elm]

yeah

[hardy oasis]

bro is skinky

[glad oriole]

i wanna mod rhe game

[uneven edge]

I think balatro lore is the most fun

[glad oriole]

[neat gull]

It's honestly super fair, it would get modded in like a nanosecond lmao

[gusty lantern]

thunk you should totally dm me with all the 1.1 details

[median elm]

i like the idea of everything being mostly new on the day it comes out

[uneven edge]

something modders cannot do anything with

[rare yew]

like the banana leak is kinda fun because nobody can really work off of what has been leaked without full on speculating

[rigid night]

Imagine us making something

[zinc forge]

kinda like what happened to Friday night funkin getting leaked, they make like 5000 mods of it

[glad oriole]

ive seen people say its effect will have something to do with being negative somehow

[minor prairie]

actually

[glad oriole]

👀

[hardy oasis]

it would be really funny if you just told me everything and trusted me not to leak it 👀

[minor prairie]

thunk does anyone know about what you're working on for the update besides you

[neat gull]

I'm honestly surprised nobody made a playable mod of that now that you mention it lol
Or at least none that I've heard of

[fossil basin]

I do love the esoteric balatro lore

[zinc forge]

okay im gonna play fallout 4, see yall later

[honest canopy]

Also people will spread misinformation over the tinniest shred of anything 🙃

[median elm]

trueee

[neat gull]

who doesn't love a little lore™

[rare yew]

If I was using a different engine or something not easy to mod and the game had no mods then I would be able to leak full jokers ahead of time

[haughty grail]

+200 chips, 1 in 100000000000000 chance to get destroyed

[rare yew]

Which would be fun on one hand

but no mods on the other

[uneven edge]

can we get an idea on what joker we can get more lore on

[worldly canyon]

it would be fun on one hand but then you would lose out on a dollar by the end of the blind

[glad oriole]

might as well just not have the chance

[uneven edge]

mr bones lore would go hard

[haughty grail]

No it would make it op

[glad oriole]

mr bones is sans undertale

[uneven edge]

and or the setting of balatro

[fossil basin]

Isn’t it more gratifying to see people discover a joker on the first day of release and seeing all the new discussion about it? Or would you prefer having some already out there

[hardy oasis]

it hits whevever i need it most

[worldly canyon]

if there's a mr bones, where is mrs bones

[neat gull]

I'm glad it is easily moddable, just so much potential for devs to run wild. I've seen it firsthand

[rare yew]

It is

[worldly canyon]

and what are all the other dead jokers called

[hardy oasis]

make bloodstone great again

[upbeat wyvern]

oh hey thunks here

[fossil basin]

Like Magic the Gathering leaks its full set before it’s released, part of me thinks it would be cool for a solid couple of days, there’s no concrete list of what was released

[glad oriole]

yorick

alas, poor yorick

[neat gull]

Hi luna

[rigid night]

Speaking of mods, how do you feel about a GIF joker that plays ||Funkytown||? That exists

[upbeat wyvern]

hi astra!

[median elm]

are any changes coming to skip tags or do you think they're in a good spot after the buffs

[glad oriole]

jimball

gotta make a

[rigid night]

I knew him well, Horatio

[haughty grail]

Yeah making any game moddable is the best thing the devs can do imo

[plain rivet]

yorick is dead??

[rare yew]

I think it creates a way more interesting moment for the community when it's all just out and playable and everyone is discovering it together

[worldly canyon]

only got a 5 in my hand. +10 mult

[glad oriole]

yes in the play he's based on

[worldly canyon]

rick: yo

[upbeat wyvern]

the moddability of this game makes for a great experience and has personally taught me a ton about game design and coding

[rigid night]

In Shakespeare's Hamlet, yes

[plain rivet]

oh.

[hardy oasis]

alas

[neat gull]

I am very glad you've been keeping it all under wraps. Yeah it doesn't build a hype train but it adds that air of mystery, like "what it he gonna do this time" with literally anything on the table atp

[uneven edge]

can we get some vagabond lore

[fossil basin]

I agree, preferable, but do you plan on releasing a let’s call it, update guide for all the new additions before/at/or after release?

[honest canopy]

Unlocking jokers was very satisfying. It also helped learn mechanics for people who had no idea eg "I can have FIVE jacks and select them all at once?!"

[hardy oasis]

hes just broke man

[haughty grail]

Who is that why did he copy balatrp

[uneven edge]

how he ran up his credit card and ended up becoming mr bones due to loan sharks

[rare yew]

There will be a changelog yes

[worldly canyon]

but it's fun to play the game and find out ourselves

[median elm]

yeah will the changelog be more parsable this time around?

[fossil basin]

Homeless and hitches rides on the boxcar

[hardy oasis]

how will this effect the balatro multiplayer meta

[rare yew]

People would not like if there wasn't a changelog

[honest canopy]

Will there be a blog post about 1.1? Those are super interesting too 👀

[minor prairie]

is the joker art for fibonnaci mathematically correct to some degree

[fossil basin]

Agreed but some people make it bare for a little bit so discovery is largely unspoiled, or some release all the details at once and leave no room for discovery though gameplay

[rigid night]

I still want to see a multiplayer match between drspectred and LocalThunk

[neat gull]

oh goodness

[rare yew]

things like

• changed serpent to draw max 3 cards instead of always 3 cards
• reworked blue stake
• reworked Matador

and who could forget

• removed blue seals

[haughty grail]

Locathunk you need to add a new boss called ibs that gives you ibs in real life

[rare yew]

:)

[upbeat wyvern]

GASP

[neat gull]

Where were you when blue seal was kil

[rare yew]

can you imagine

[magic swan]

im with you

[hardy oasis]

you did waht to the serpent

[minor prairie]

head is ascending

[upbeat wyvern]

blue seal is murdered

[honest canopy]

BLUE SEALS? ACA-SCUSE ME?!

[neat gull]

It would shift the entire meta 😭

[rare yew]

the first 3 are true

[median elm]

😭

[pseudo ridge]

ultimate blue stake build to rule them all??? (280k with 5 of a kind)

[hardy oasis]

no...

[fossil basin]

Ok so it leaves room for interpretation but gives enough info for discovery, a good middle ground

[minor prairie]

is the serpent change real im going to cry if its real

[dreamy rock]

Somewhat offtopic, but do you play any games other than balatro often? And are there any that may inspire future balatro jokers?

[neat gull]

Serpent buff is great

[worldly canyon]

is wheel of fortune going to be the same?

[median elm]

yeah

[uneven edge]

what is a matador?

[minor prairie]

nOOO

[glad oriole]

removed?????

sobs

[uneven edge]

fire

[pseudo ridge]

THE SERPENT IS GONNA CHANGE???

[rare yew]

no lmao it's not being removed

was a joke

[gusty lantern]

when are orange seals coming

[worldly canyon]

don't ask that. +$8

[glad oriole]

whew

[honest canopy]

Brb making a video

[magic swan]

or is it

[upbeat wyvern]

what if you played blinds instead of cards

[hardy oasis]

wait wait wait is was a WHAT

[glad oriole]

👀

[neat gull]

Can't say anything on discord without someone believing it 😭

[worldly canyon]

ohhhhh you're such a joker

[honest canopy]

Gimme 2 minutes to get the clickbait ready

[rare yew]

I maaaaaaay be testing a blue seal rework though, have had a new blue seal version in my test build for about a year

but I'm not sold

[upbeat wyvern]

OOOOO

exciting

[neat gull]

Oooooo fascinating

[glad oriole]

fascinating

[burnt delta]

Hmmmm

[glad oriole]

is it not as busted

[burnt delta]

Interesting

[minor prairie]

thunk i really really beg you to make a seal that returns the card to hand when played

[tawny pasture]

change the seal to purple and make it give tarot instead

[rare yew]

it's different

[minor prairie]

it would be awesome

[pseudo ridge]

I can guess what it does, but imma keep it to myself

yo me quedo yeison

[rare yew]

You cannot

[hardy oasis]

no way

[honest canopy]

Different is bad though because personally I don't like change 😩

[rare yew]

let me reiterate here that it doesn't mean it'll be in 1.1

1.1 may have the same blue seals

[upbeat wyvern]

ohh fair its just a general idea

[rare yew]

but I test a lot of things

[worldly canyon]

who is your favourite clown/jester/sillyguy?

[fossil basin]

Oh I thought 1.1 was it

Forever

[minor prairie]

blue seal is a little sad that it gives you the planet card for the last played hand

[neat gull]

So what you're saying is 1.2 is on the table /j

[hardy oasis]

balancing blue seals is a difficult task i can imagine

[opaque shard]

Blue seals are fairly balanced anyway I think

[rare yew]

It could be

[minor prairie]

sometimes the last played hand isnt that good and isnt what you want

[fossil basin]

Either way good for you

[pseudo ridge]

like random crits?

[rare yew]

what I mean is that a blue seal rework in my test build doesn't mean it'll ever make it to the full version

I test things that don't work and scrap them a lot

[opaque shard]

Fair enuf

[rare yew]

you have to kill your darlings

[upbeat wyvern]

mr localthunk how are you so cool and awesome

[neat gull]

test builds are in fact builds for testing

breaking news

[fossil basin]

You ever plan on releasing a test build version after everything’s said and done

[rare yew]

no

[fossil basin]

Fair enough

[rare yew]

that's what the full version is for

[pseudo ridge]

yeah, the final product it's just the tip of the iceberg of a loooooot of concepts, mechanics and ideas that didn't make it for some reason

[fossil basin]

I got one last off topic question for you, what’s your favorite album? It helps me learn about a person

[rare yew]

People would be so mad if I changed blue seals though

I'd have to tank that

[neat gull]

While it would be cool to peel back the curtain on BTS stuff, some things are best left unearthed

[glad oriole]

thats fine

[rare yew]

probably a bit of a review bomb too

[glad oriole]

i think theyre way too good xurrently

[hardy oasis]

i can forgive you nobody else matters

[rare yew]

but eh, it is what it is

[opaque shard]

LocalThunk cancelled on Twitter

[haughty grail]

Idk blue seals always seemed underwhelming to me

[upbeat wyvern]

it happens

[minor prairie]

p-p-pppink seal 🥺?

[neat gull]

yeah probably :/

[worldly canyon]

omg did he say a slur

[median elm]

blue seals are good, but they do kinda define metas

[fossil basin]

I think it would be balanced with the people very happy with the change

[glad oriole]

leaving a bad review because the blue seals get changed woukd be so silly

[pseudo ridge]

no, he changed how blue seals work

[rare yew]

possibly

maybe

[glad oriole]

merchance

[rare yew]

they're more... fun in this build

[haughty grail]

He said the o word (o*elisk)

[tawny pasture]

id think it would only really annoy gold stake players, feel like a lot of the lower stake players gravitate to red seal. at least from my independent "research"

[glad oriole]

perhaps

[hardy oasis]

define fun

[pseudo ridge]

i mean, ppl tend to review bomb games when they don't like a new mechanic/balance so-

[worldly canyon]

what if epstein was a legendary joker? he is a massive clown

[upbeat wyvern]

we cannot know if he changed blue seals or not until we open the box

[glad oriole]

thus is true even tho red seals are kinda mid

[hardy oasis]

he was known to entertain...

[burnt delta]

Schrodingers blue seal

[median elm]

blue seals are much better in higher stakes, but maybe with blue stake rework it'll be different

[pseudo ridge]

yeah, completionists and hardcore gold stake players will hate whatever change they make on meta

[minor prairie]

schrodinger's seal

[glad oriole]

unlike the current legendaries most people dont like him

[worldly canyon]

who tf likes chicot

[rare yew]

it's hard to get balatro feedback at this point because all the people giving it have much higher than median playtime

[glad oriole]

lots of people

hes a good joker

[hardy oasis]

by far the most unappreciated joker oat

[haughty grail]

Chicot slander smh

[rare yew]

so stuff like pair meta, while def the main meta for high end players, isn't as big of a deal as flush meta for median players

[glad oriole]

feedback: balatro good keep cooking

[worldly canyon]

i like chicot but i hear so much chicot slander

[rare yew]

so there are 2 masters to serve

[tawny pasture]

my "research" is youtube polls. So big grain of salt with that one.

[honest canopy]

Guys I put a lot of work into my latest Balatro video. Please show some love - #🎥・videos-and-streams message

[median elm]

yeah thats true

[pseudo ridge]

the hardest thing about drawing legendary jokers is thinking about a good effect that's worth the rarity and it's not broken

[quaint sandal]

Can blue seal be blue

[haughty grail]

Localthunk do you have a favorite build

[hardy oasis]

joke... joke... joke???

[rare yew]

blue seals will still be blue

[worldly canyon]

what about a rogue straight strat

[quaint sandal]

YAAAY

[glad oriole]

WHAT

[hardy oasis]

immediately refunding

[honest canopy]

You got 3 cameos

[fossil basin]

Balancing for the hardcore audience vs the casual often defines bad periods in games like Overwatch or TF2, but this also isn’t a multiplayer shooter so, might not be a solid comparison

[hardy oasis]

i made it

[pseudo ridge]

HMMMMM I feel most high stake players tend to play high card and force mime+baron build

[hardy oasis]

yeah nah

[rare yew]

I always say that the casual player is more important to cater to than the high hour player

that core experience can't get worse

[glad oriole]

loterally 0 high stake players do this

[fossil basin]

Which is how it should be

[honest canopy]

I swear I'm in the minority that is addicted to both Balatro and Overwatch

[median elm]

yeah not a great comparison, but is something to look out for, like nerfing photochad probably makes generally the avg player more mad than like the hardcore gold stake only players

[pseudo ridge]

I mean, my highest scores were either mime+baron OR aces

[neat gull]

Massive agree here

[quaint sandal]

Will there be a higher gold stake

[hardy oasis]

its not about biggest number its about consistency

[opaque shard]

Scrapped Jimbo stake

[rare yew]

I don't think so

[fossil basin]

But a big blue seal nerf would make the hard core fans happier, but the median would be more upset because they wasted the spectral pack

[pseudo ridge]

i think aces are kinda underrated

[glad oriole]

yes baron mime does have the highest ceiling out of any build
that doesnt make it a good idea to force every run

[rare yew]

it really feels like 8 is enough

[honest canopy]

Ante 8 is where it's at

[median elm]

will any of the ante 8 scaling change?

[tawny pasture]

we all start as casual players. the accessibility is what drew me to the game cause i typically dont like card games.

[quaint sandal]

Thats fair

5 banana jokers pretty PLEASE

[rare yew]

if I added like 4 more stakes that would be a real slog, and it'd push the balance of the game past the breaking point I feel

[honest canopy]

The flames drew me in. That shit was crazy

[quaint sandal]

Sundae

[opaque shard]

Platinum stake where Jimbo takes a gun and shoots you

[glad oriole]

i was so obsessed with balatro first week or so playing it is a really strong hook

[minor prairie]

platinum bullet

[hardy oasis]

oh on g

[cedar echo]

Does it also take 2 random cards away :3

[upbeat wyvern]

diamond stake that only exists on balatro+ the dlc with a season pass

[glad oriole]

sometimes....

[fossil basin]

Stronger with every kill

[neat gull]

I'm curious, having seen much of the code behind the game, will you do any optimization or restructuring of the code?

[median elm]

the balattle pass

[worldly canyon]

my dad introduced me to balatro out of all people

[glad oriole]

balatro+ exists

[pseudo ridge]

Can't think of anything harder than gold stake, like: what would the speculative platinum/diamond stake do, end my run if I take too long?

[minor prairie]

thunk do you plan on keeping the number of jokers round? like you got a perfect 150 so are you gonna make it like 160 or 200 in the next update (arbitrary numbers but you know what i mean)

[median elm]

could scale faster like purple again

[cedar echo]

-1 hand size

[glad oriole]

HELL nah

[pseudo ridge]

that's the only plausible thing i guess

[hardy oasis]

thunk has israel doomed me to lose this run'

[worldly canyon]

borrrrrrrrrring

[pseudo ridge]

DON'T.

[glad oriole]

we are not bringing back old gold

[honest canopy]

The chocolate?

[dreamy rock]

not necessarily imo tbh, a lot of jokers feel like they are balanced for endless and aren't very usable in the normal 8 ante system, or just impractical for it, although its fine if they remain endless-only jokers too, but another higher ante gamemode could be cool too giving them a real purpose

[glad oriole]

huhh

[cedar echo]

Fine, EVERY blind is a boss blind

[rare yew]

I mean stakes

not antes

[glad oriole]

none if the jokers were balanxed with endless in mind tmk

[honest canopy]

Chat you all have terrible ideas (me included). I hope you're all self aware

[worldly canyon]

Is localthunk gonna listen or is he gonna be a localpunk

[cedar echo]

I am >_<

[opaque shard]

Is it okay if I ask
Will we get new decks

[haughty grail]

Brown stake, gives you ibs

[dreamy rock]

oh like higher than gold stake yeah i feel like there'd be too much going on, gold stake is quite perfect as an endgame difficulty

[frank radish]

add a joker where it instantly ends your run for absolutely no reason

[rare yew]

I think idol is the only one that isn't good in base game right?

[median elm]

i want new decks soooo bad!!!

[pseudo ridge]

we started from the bottom and went digging -

[honest canopy]

Seance maybe...

[worldly canyon]

not mine because i can never do wrong in any situation ever

[median elm]

seance is better the earlier you get it

[rare yew]

beyond idol the rest are at least usable in the first 8 antes

[hardy oasis]

all jokers suck because i dont like them

[minor prairie]

idol is terrible if every one of your cards isnt the same

[glad oriole]

idol is nearly unusavle yes
i'd argue showman is rarely ever helpful in ante 8 runs too

[opaque shard]

Loyalty card is also eh

[rare yew]

showman is fun

[median elm]

getting early spectrals is key in some longer runs, but idol is just hard to get online in only 8 antes

[honest canopy]

Internet veteran. Can't argue with that

[rare yew]

I like showman

[upbeat wyvern]

showman is very fun

[tawny pasture]

hes got the cool mustache

[minor prairie]

like i'd haev 60 kings of hearts and idol will still pick the 6 of spades i couldnt get rid of

[haughty grail]

Sudden cardiac arrest joker

[warm shale]

Showman

[pseudo ridge]

Idol is quite hard to build. It's only good in erratic deck or near endgame when you have a bit of deckfixing

[glad oriole]

fun or not idk im just telling you how good he is

[minor prairie]

sudden infant death syndrome joker

[worldly canyon]

Can there be a showman deck

[haughty grail]

O*belisk

[opaque shard]

You mean a lot

[glad oriole]

i dont find him fun personally but like

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[faint hound]

Baron isn’t very good/reliable but depends on what one means by good or by base game. Like ante 8 or endless cause answers change

[honest canopy]

Idol is like having a single glass card in your deck and hoping you draw it. But the fun part is it changes every time and can't break!

[median elm]

idol is better on like checkered as well

[hardy oasis]

obelisk bad crowd strikes again...

[worldly canyon]

you didnt even censor it

[glad oriole]

obelisk is fantastic gng

[pseudo ridge]

my bad, it is really hard to build

[minor prairie]

f****uck

[haughty grail]

Im that mad

[rare yew]

I find baron to be alright in ante 8 runs

[glad oriole]

in fact obelisk is bad for endless due to the whoke linited hands

[opaque shard]

Idol is only really good in high score runs which is not the average player

[neat gull]

If anyone has a say on that front it's you lol

[honest canopy]

Obelisk is great

[median elm]

since there is twice the cards you can play on checkered out of the gate with idol

[worldly canyon]

erosion is kinda doo doo in early runs

[glad oriole]

it can be good very rarely,

but also he just dies to plant

[honest canopy]

I got a fun gold stake Baron Scholar run once which makes no sense but it worked 🤷

[quaint sandal]

Jimbo plushie in balatro

[pseudo ridge]

sometimes I get excited to find an idol in ante 1 until i remember it's just taking up space

[quaint sandal]

All in

[tawny pasture]

like looking in a pixelated mirror

[frank radish]

1 in 16 chance for your computer to explode

[vivid island]

Idol was an Ante 7 pick when I gold sticker it. Actually got to use it though because I got some strong card destruction going in that run

[rare yew]

Anything else like Idol in terms of usability in base game?

[dreamy rock]

honestly maybe its a playstyle thing, but for me personally jokers like steel, lucky cat, glass rarely take off or ever seem worth it taking into consideration 8 ante only runs, specially the glass one since u need to take time to shatter glass after u find it which is usually quite deep into a run already

[hardy oasis]

you simply cant fix your deck fast enough to use idol within 8 antes

[rare yew]

Lucky cat?????

[upbeat wyvern]

balatro 1.1 is just solitaire advanced

[worldly canyon]

yeah I've never used it

[pseudo ridge]

yall are sleeping on baron+shoot the moon, really funny tho (you can automatically arrange them by suit so the queens will trigger first)

[median elm]

nah!!

[honest canopy]

WHO HATING ON CAT?! WTF

[haughty grail]

I heard people say that the idol is good for flush runs but I dont see how

[minor prairie]

i LOVE lucky cat

[opaque shard]

Lucky cat is the best scaling xmult

[upbeat wyvern]

lucky cat is goated excuse you

[worldly canyon]

wait people dont like lucky cat?

[hardy oasis]

lucky cat rewards an already fun system, its fine

[neat gull]

Cat is awesome lol

[rare yew]

steel and glass are both also totally usable

[pseudo ridge]

I LOVE GATO GORDO

[haughty grail]

Its a 1 in a 4 chance it will work in a round no?

[faint hound]

Just requires too much setup for the pay off most times. Unless you go into a run wanting to force Baron and start from ante 1 but that kinda is against the point of finding random jokers if that makes sense

[quaint sandal]

Meow

[faint hound]

Idk, I think Baron is a bottom 3 joker with idol there too

[opaque shard]

Gato waton

[dreamy rock]

lucky cat not so much, and i love the joker! its just not an often take unless i wanna scale a build beyond ante 8

[vivid island]

not impossible but you need a LOT of deckfix.

[faint hound]

For ante 8

[median elm]

lucky cat is great, steel is slow but does work if you get it early enough

[quaint sandal]

Banana enhancement

[glad oriole]

i guess flowerpot

[median elm]

and glass is the GOAT

[glad oriole]

flowerpot's condition is hard to meet most runs

[honest canopy]

Flowerpot is not like Idol at all

[worldly canyon]

is it me or is the most forgettable joker blackboard

[hardy oasis]

my problem with glass is that i get scared to use it

[glad oriole]

it isnt but it isnt very usable most of the time

[hardy oasis]

fuh naw

[opaque shard]

Flower pot is usable

[dreamy rock]

flowerpot has niche use cases like flowerpot with splash, it makes it viable very early too

[faint hound]

Oh steel joker is also horrible

[median elm]

flowerpot is just not as good as like blackboard or hologram or other uncommons but i think thats fine

[warm shale]

Blackboard is super good

[pseudo ridge]

yall are ignoring superposition

[upbeat wyvern]

no because you remembered it

[honest canopy]

Just you. Blackboard is the goat for gold stake pair builds

[cerulean lotus]

I don't think the game needs balancing tbh. Its perfect where it is.

[faint hound]

Steel jokers one upside is being uncommon lmao

[quasi aurora]

i guess loyalty card is kinda weird

[tawny pasture]

flowerpot is a bit cumbersome.

[glad oriole]

steel joker could use a buff to its scaling tbh

[neat gull]

Not necessarily joker related, but I feel like there's not much of a reason to build straight flush

[dreamy rock]

y'all sleeping on flowerpot splash, it has been my first two jokers for a couple runs

[worldly canyon]

it is but I never think of blackboard first thing

[median elm]

flowerpot does work, its just not the nicest x mult to get

i dont go "yay flowerpot"

[neat gull]

Neptune just kinda pads the pool in my experience

[tawny pasture]

loyalty card is playable it just can be difficult to time properly

[warm shale]

And it never shows up

[gusty lantern]

will wild cards get reworked/buffed

[glad oriole]

oh yeah loyalty

[honest canopy]

I think the fact that we can't agree on Flower Pot but Idol is unanimous sort of answers that question lol

[cerulean lotus]

Yeah. Sometimes you roll with what's given.

[rare yew]

what I'm seeing here is that there is no majority opinion on another joker outside of Idol being unusable in the first 8 antes

[pseudo ridge]

shortcut, four fingers and blurry joker, but it's hard to get

[median elm]

yeah

[dreamy rock]

glass joker imo is the one that needs the biggest rework because I never want it, its so unrewarding

[faint hound]

What

[minor prairie]

joker idea:
rabies joker
bites you and gives you rabies

[faint hound]

Horrible take

[glad oriole]

loyalty xan be a good desperation pick but the inconsistency maims it

[steel fiber]

couldn't think of anything, sorry

[hardy oasis]

the joker that starts working in ante 9 is unusable during ante 8 runs man im sorry

[median elm]

glass joker is great

[worldly canyon]

loyalty xanax 🔥

[pseudo ridge]

i also think constellation needs a buff. x0.1 per planet card is kinda slow

[tawny pasture]

other than matador just idol tbh

[opaque shard]

Nah

[cerulean lotus]

Also please don't nerf the chickot bug.

[neat gull]

That's also three whole joker slots that don't score

[vivid island]

Idol is pretty much infeasible in Ante 8 unless you hit the "out of the world" run

[rare yew]

what on earth are you talking about

[hardy oasis]

"inconsistency" it literally tells you when it works

[pseudo ridge]

don't mention it

[drifting fox]

i couldn't name another besides idol

[dreamy rock]

really? i feel like maybe itd be somewhat more relevant if it counted glass shattered in the run before it was obtained, but otherwise how do u make it work

[cerulean lotus]

Oops

[fading arrow]

ive never seen localthunk on this chat ever holy

[rare yew]

chicot bug is fixed

[pseudo ridge]

i just think it's frustrating 😭

[hardy oasis]

NO

[worldly canyon]

Not just earth, all planets

[quaint sandal]

I think all jokers are awesome, just get gud

[cedar echo]

Idol synergizes with me, 100% usable wym

[haughty grail]

Localthunk add betting in the new update pls

[neat gull]

Oh goodness the masses are finding out thunk is here

[warm spindle]

nooo what it made chicot so good

[median elm]

money, open every arcana and every standard, try find hung men and thats it

[cerulean lotus]

Noooooooooo

[neon wren]

there's another chicot bug, it's a weird one

[worldly canyon]

chicot is the bug

the pest

[faint hound]

It’s kinda hard to say cause everything is so situational in Balatro. Generally though, imo. Baron tends to almost never be worth it, steel joker scales a bit too slow to its counterparts and is a bit redundant in how it scales and flowerpot but flowerpot kinda just is cause it absolutely can’t work with pairs which is a major shot in the foot

[opaque shard]

Is the glass joker bug with spectral cards fixed

[fading arrow]

speaking of legendaries can we have canio start at 2x pls

[haughty grail]

You should add a chill joker that’s just a chill guy that chills on top of your screen

[rare yew]

Also crimson bean was patched but that was because I fixed a related bug and bean ended up being fixed from it

soooo

[dreamy rock]

baron is not like not usable, but its also clearly an endless flavored joker, an 8 ante run almost never has baron as an optimal pick

[pseudo ridge]

any joker can be meta, but damn, some jokers are really difficult to work with

[drifting fox]

its like seeing the mona lisa get ripped in half 💔

[fading arrow]

💔 ok

[median elm]

yeah glass joker not working with spectrals is annoying as hell though

[vivid island]

Speaking of Canio I gold stickerd a X2 Canio.

[opaque shard]

Be honest tho how often would you realistically get Chicot bug

[haughty grail]

What was thr chicot bug chat

[minor prairie]

the people want it thunk, add it

[pseudo ridge]

ankh or invisible joker

[worldly canyon]

Are you interested in making more jokers or simply balancing existing ones?

[opaque shard]

Ig

[neon wren]

that addresses a couple things. new chicot tech is weird and not usable on a random seed so probably isn't a problem

[honest canopy]

I might be in the minority but I like Matador outside of 2 exceptions which I guess cause the most confusion. The Flint and The Hook. Either both should trigger Matador or neither should (Neither makes more sense). But I think thats just me 😅 My understanding was if you can avoid triggering the boss blind then Matador shouldn't work. But both Flint and Hook are unavoidable but only 1 triggers Matador.

[median elm]

you just got to make as much money and roll for invis before ante 8 or 16 its not too diffiuclt

[opaque shard]

My point

[fading arrow]

its gonna have to be an early soul tho, nobodys selling stuff for a chicot at like ante 7

[cerulean lotus]

Theres is a new chickot tech?

[bleak grove]

if you have 2 of them on manacle you get 1 extra perm hand size

[haughty grail]

I like matador too I didnt know we were a minority

[median elm]

i like matador too, its like a 1/2 chance for like 20 - 30 bucks which is just so good

[cerulean lotus]

Oh yeah please rework matador.

[median elm]

it is getting reworked

[hardy oasis]

thunk when will i be added to the game

[rare yew]

I don't really want to patch out the wacky fun bugs but they're also bugs, and sometimes they affect other things

like new content

[gusty lantern]

please dont remove the chicot infinite hand size

[worldly canyon]

skyrim moment

[haughty grail]

Damn I mean if you have 2 chicots you might as well get that

[fading arrow]

its already gone

[dreamy rock]

chicot is like a tech at this point not a bug

[neat gull]

bugs will be bugs

[hardy oasis]

terrible news

[fading arrow]

it is what it is

[dreamy rock]

u cant really stumble upon it without trying to do so with prior knowledge of it

[minor prairie]

can we have a bug joker that has a 1 in 50 chance of naneinfing and 1 in 5 chance to delete the game

[opaque shard]

Yeah

[median elm]

someone did stumble upon it once upon a time though

[gusty lantern]

NOOO

[honest canopy]

What about unimportant bugs? Like if Blueprint/Brainstorm copy Hallucination the +1 Tarot still appears under Hallucination instead of the copy joker?

[neat gull]

modding this in as we speak /j

[fading arrow]

yes and it spawns 3 negative eternal oops all sixes when you acquire it

[dreamy rock]

they were probably memeing with random builds rather than a more organic playthrough of the game though im sure

[steel fiber]

OH

[pseudo ridge]

is this what technical minecraft players feel when they patch a bug they've been exploiting to get crazy farms, amazing circuits or unobtainable stuff?

[minor prairie]

hell yeah

[steel fiber]

i think I got one
baseball card often shows up before one has any uncommons in their joker slots

[median elm]

yeah they probably just noticed that oh yeah my handsize went up there, huh how about that and then posted on reddit or something

[haughty grail]

Yes its the same kind of pain

[pseudo ridge]

when I kept my soda bcs it was unusual

[fading arrow]

baseball would be alot better if it was common and uncommon tbh

common 1.25x uncommon 1.5x

[cerulean lotus]

I mean in alot of games devs leave out bugs intentionally because its used by speedrunners. Most people wont be able to pull off a chickot bug. But its fun to watch when someone does and reaches insane scores. I think not all bugs need to be addressed if they are not affecting general gameplay.

[worldly canyon]

I hope we get more jimbo dialog

[honest canopy]

Baseball is already very very powerful

[opaque shard]

Baseball is already good

[steel fiber]

oh yeah if it were uncommon it'd be able to use its effect on itself

[pseudo ridge]

LOOK WHO IT IS

[worldly canyon]

comodin de acero 🔥

[rare yew]

steel joker is actually very good

[median elm]

i guess the difference is that minecraft bugs like that sometimes last like over a decade instead of like just a couple years, and you can always go back to the version where it works still

[dreamy rock]

good for what

[fading arrow]

i cant believe i havent picked it up yet

[rare yew]

winning

[haughty grail]

Bro got the Comodin de acero

[opaque shard]

We love stoker

[pseudo ridge]

If I had more steels... or if I wasn't playing ETERNAL STENCIL

[fading arrow]

i picked it up on all of my other accounts

[median elm]

i think it scales slowly, but i got it in ante 2 today and it solo'd the run basically

[worldly canyon]

steel joker is good but i think he's boring compared to the other enhancement jokers

[fading arrow]

except my main one for some reason

[hardy oasis]

mult joker when

[fading arrow]

stencil is such a fun joker

[worldly canyon]

jimbo

[pseudo ridge]

Jimbo 2

[haughty grail]

Steel joker is an enhancement joker?

[pseudo ridge]

we need more jimbos

[worldly canyon]

jimbo 3

[neon wren]

SYPGKNC1 while you can then https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155567192771928104/1395853661350920223/Screenshot_20250718_154305.png?ex=69825006&is=6980fe86&hm=5ac60cd8d45aa235eb70e4811fc94eb6a5160e5c9ca7cccab85a48a11c5ea050&

[haughty grail]

To what stone joker?

[dreamy rock]

its basically a challenge run at that point, like sure u can but why would you want to, its scaling is a little too unimpressive for all the effort u need to invest fixing into it

[median elm]

i guess the problem with steel joker and glass joker is that if you have enough steel/glass you're probably winning without the extra 3x anyway

[cerulean lotus]

So long o7

[rare yew]

but you also get steel cards

[median elm]

yeah

[rare yew]

you lean into it

[honest canopy]

Yeah but with Steel Joker you don't need them all in hand which is nice

[dreamy rock]

u get them anyway and dont waste the slot for a steel joker

[fading arrow]

are we gonna get new enhancements in the new update

[pseudo ridge]

anyone here enjoys stone cards?

[opaque shard]

5 steel cards equals x2 mult which isnt bad

[median elm]

true, that is nice

[keen rain]

Balaro car

[haughty grail]

Yes 5 enhancements to cavendish

[warm shale]

Yes

[opaque shard]

They're alright

[median elm]

i like glass joker it rewards you for playing glass earlier in a run usually and thats nice

[dreamy rock]

it would be cool if the steel joker actually had a chance to turn a card into steel when scored or something

that would be epic

[opaque shard]

Oh yeah Marble joker is kinda just there

[fading arrow]

new card enhancements like mult cards and stuff

[honest canopy]

Like let's say you have 5 steel cards but a bloated deck. Thats 2x on the joker but you may have none in your hand 🤷

[rare yew]

Nah I like steel joker

[spring kite]

is midas mask good?

[fading arrow]

say what is mult card art supposed to depict

[haughty grail]

I feel like they’re not worth the card slot

[dreamy rock]

the 0.2x mult is like but why though

[opaque shard]

Yes

[haughty grail]

They’re good as “filler” cards though

[neon wren]

but not having a bloated deck and 5 in hand is x7.6...

[minor prairie]

steel joker is literally better than obelisk

[spring kite]

ok thanks

[honest canopy]

All jokers are good (except Idol), some are just more situational than others

[hardy oasis]

what you guys are failing to see is localthunk is right and youre wrong because he said so

[fading arrow]

decent

[warm shale]

Not true…

[fading arrow]

no

[minor prairie]

:3

[pseudo ridge]

midas + vampire is really nice

[fading arrow]

i won my first gold stake with obelisk

[pseudo ridge]

but I could'nt beat bram poker tho

[median elm]

midas + vampire is such a fun interaction

[neat gull]

This chat has evolved into joker arguing lmao

[gusty lantern]

what if idol chose a specific rank and was changed to 1.5x

[haughty grail]

Anything is better than that

[dreamy rock]

i mean if we're being optimal, im sure obelisk is better, its just mostly unfun to deal with, its the most annoying joker in terms of its playstyle

[fading arrow]

obelisk is so good at higher antes in non endless runs

[warm shale]

All I want for 1.1 is more scaling chips

[rare yew]

I love obelisk so much

[honest canopy]

Midas Mask and Hiker are jokers you don't even need around forever. Can temporarily use them if you have a free slot and get a permanent upside even after selling

[median elm]

obelisk is very very well designed

[opaque shard]

Obelisk is overhated

Like a lot

[hardy oasis]

oh yeah hiker i forgot about him

[rare yew]

obelisk is a joker that feels different whenever you get it, like every time it shows up it has a different value prop

[pseudo ridge]

i think it MIGHT be so over

[rare yew]

sometimes it's ass sometimes it's amazing

[dreamy rock]

im sure it has its enjoyers, im just not one of them 😭 i dont want to count every hand type im playing and do multiple pivots mid game for a joker that might crash

[median elm]

yeah its sooo good in current pair meta

[gusty lantern]

john balatro my goat

[opaque shard]

I won my first run with hiker

[warm shale]

I don’t think I’ve ever actually used stone joker

[rare yew]

I do I'm a sicko

[hardy oasis]

stone joker is weird because the stone card already do the chips part

[fading arrow]

i meannn you dont necessarily have to pivot hands

[median elm]

ive used stone joker in like plasma runs and thats about it

[dreamy rock]

all the power to u, as much as i dislike using obelisk i think its good to have it in the game

[haughty grail]

When obelisk shows up in the store i just restart the run

[fading arrow]

stone joker is so shit.. 😭

[opaque shard]

More chips

[honest canopy]

The trick to Obelisk is to do the following:

• Check your played hands BEFORE playing the hand
• Check after the hand
• Select cards to play your next hand
• Check your played hands again
• Win the round
• Check your played hands
• Start next round
• Check your played hands again

[hardy oasis]

and like if you have enough stone to make stone joker worth you are probably playing them

[haughty grail]

Its like it has tainted the run

[cerulean lotus]

I like obelisk. Its auto win.

[median elm]

i mean, if you can count up in your head obelisk is easy

[fading arrow]

ok i die

[fading arrow]

i love minigame jokers

[pseudo ridge]

can my gros michel fucking die already?

[honest canopy]

This also applies to Ancient Joker. You gotta check it multiple times in the same round just to make sure it hasn't magically changed

[fading arrow]

pants is so fun

[warm shale]

Obelisk is fun and good

[cerulean lotus]

Shoot it

[warm shale]

Beautiful

[haughty grail]

Btw is mobile-pc sync in progress?

[pseudo ridge]

i will

[median elm]

pants, runner and obelisk are fun little minigames

[cerulean lotus]

Asking the important questions

[drifting fox]

quick time event jokers in 1.1 😍

[fading arrow]

castle is pretty fun too

[median elm]

truee

i love deckfixign for castle

[minor prairie]

i just dont understand obelisk because lets say you spammed high card 25 times. then your flush which is your main hand is now at 24, the next hand you literally lose all your obelisk progress. i dont understand how people like it so much

[warm shale]

Castle is my chips goat

[fading arrow]

beat this osu track full combo for 1.1x mult

[warm shale]

That and little jimbo

[hardy oasis]

if youve played that many hands the run is won already

[opaque shard]

You need chips and flatmult jokers and you'll be fine

[median elm]

yeah

[haughty grail]

Castle is fun

[rare yew]

I guess I haven't chatted about it here in a while because last time we talked design in this server was a looooong time ago, but my design ethos is always:

• I am my audience, I am making this game for me (primarily) so if there is something I love about the game or if I feel something is balanced it stays
• I balance the game for the new player experience if possible. Keep things simple, keep things interesting, don't overwhelm

Beyond that lies what we typically discuss in this server because most of you are anything but new players. That doesn't mean I won't listen but it does mean we are speaking past each other sometimes. I still try and look at all your feedback because it's usually coming from a place of truth and can benefit the game

[haughty grail]

Especially in flush runs I feel likr

[minor prairie]

so the counterargument is "just get other jonklers"

[dreamy rock]

how do u feel about making atleast slight tweaks to glass joker though? Like at the very least make spectral cards destroying cards affect it, and also i think itd work way better if glass broken prior to getting it affected it, it would actually be rewarding to find then

[haughty grail]

I had castle stuck on spades for like 2 antes though

[cerulean lotus]

You play something else then. Obelisk makes you think before you play your hand and diversify it.

[neon wren]

it's enough to win. better with scaling jokers or other sources of base mult besides hand levels

[fading arrow]

obelisk is hand neutral so if you play an obelisk runs then you dont really wanna get fixated on any hand

[fading arrow]

which saves hand scaling money

[median elm]

yeah it chooses from your deck like idol does

[cerulean lotus]

If there is a full house to he made. I may choose to play 3 of a kind so it can diversify and scale.

[minor prairie]

wow people really like obelisk it looks like

[haughty grail]

Wait wym

Isnt it random

[median elm]

so you can deck fix for castle to only hit one suit

[fading arrow]

based on ur deck

[hardy oasis]

because its good

[haughty grail]

I ait what

[opaque shard]

Grass is green

[median elm]

noooo, castle on checkered GOES crazyyy

[haughty grail]

Idol is like thst too?

[fading arrow]

if ur deck has only 1 suit then castle will always be that suit

[rare yew]

obelisk is maybe one of my favourite designs in the game. It's even in the #🙋・frequently-asked

[haughty grail]

I thought they were both random

[minor prairie]

mine is black what does this mean

[honest canopy]

The new player experience is good. I feel like you've said this before (I have no proof) but I like how the Ante 8 bosses all teach you various key aspects of the game without you properly realising it. That was so handy

[fading arrow]

yeah if ur deck has the same card then it can only pick that card

[fading arrow]

it IS random

[median elm]

i agree, obelisk is reallly good

[fading arrow]

but you can make it guaranteed

by deck fixing

[median elm]

yeah

[haughty grail]

How does that work

[fading arrow]

same for mail in rebate

[opaque shard]

I still don't get the point with loyalty card tbh

[median elm]

just make all your cards the same suit

and then it will only hit that one suit

[fading arrow]

make all cards in ur dekc the same suit or the same rank

[warm shale]

For cope runs only

[fading arrow]

or better

both

[hardy oasis]

battle pass soft launch

[median elm]

unlike ancient joker which changes every round at random without hitting the same one twice you can deck fix for castle which is sooo nice

[fading arrow]

its so shit

[haughty grail]

I see

[honest canopy]

Amber Acorn is amazing to make people realise "wtf joker order matters". Or Verdant Leaf to know that you can purely score from jokers. Or Vessel to make you violent

[fading arrow]

maybe it could be like +0.5x mult every 6 hands played

thats being a bit hard

[haughty grail]

But not all cards where spades in my deck that run

[fading arrow]

but idk if 1x is balanced

[pseudo ridge]

there was an attempt

[median elm]

its like yorick then but like opposite

[haughty grail]

Slimed by Contenedor violeta

[opaque shard]

And crimson heart just shoots you dead

[rare yew]

may I defend loyalty card for but a moment

[hardy oasis]

man remember old yorick

[warm shale]

Idk loyality card is kinda good

[opaque shard]

Go on

[pseudo ridge]

i hate that bitch

[fading arrow]

ok

[rare yew]

if you look at my design ethos that I just posted

It's interesting/fun for new players

even if it's not very optimal to pick up

[warm shale]

It’s like a I can’t score 400k ante 8 and didn’t find a glass card button

[median elm]

and its not like it doesnt have its use

[opaque shard]

Fair enough Ig

[dreamy rock]

loyalty card is fine i mean its a big reward for a big loss kind of thing

[haughty grail]

I feel you

[hardy oasis]

thunk youre failing to consider that i dont like it therefore it has to go

[median elm]

burglar and loyalty goes pretty hard imo

[dreamy rock]

its like how misprint felt really fun as a newplayer, as u get more experienced u hardly ever pick it up

[fading arrow]

feel like throwback loyalty would be better

[haughty grail]

Just like a lot of common jokers

[opaque shard]

Misprint is still good for early game

[fading arrow]

throwback for skip value and loyalty skip to the boss once you got it active

[haughty grail]

I barely use common jokers now

[median elm]

buglar allows you to proc loyalty almost every single round

[haughty grail]

Even though im not really experienced

[drifting fox]

does madness have a use in stakes without eternal jokers or am i just bad

[hardy oasis]

nah not really

[cerulean lotus]

I think game should have some useless jokers. It makes C++ fun. Figuring out uses for each card. And building around thekm.

[warm shale]

Misprint is good wym

[haughty grail]

Wait madness triggers with eternal jokers?

Didnt know thst

[opaque shard]

Planet cards

[median elm]

yeah it does

[fading arrow]

yea

[rare yew]

I do not think loyalty card is very good, but it's more fun for new players than lucky cat is