Natsumi Browser (my Zen Browser userchrome)

[spare storm]

Very happy with this mod, it should be native. It makes the browser much much more polished

[distant oriole]

in which module is transparent history ?

[hidden kernel]

fixed this for next release

[deft plinth]

Which distribution you used... Arch?

[slim prism]

probably nix with hyprland

[hidden kernel]

added a width limit

[oblique girder]

The PDF viewer color scheme doesn't match with the browser color theme. Is there a fix to this?

[visual pond]

i dont see any need/requirement to update the natsumi to latest 🤔

[final sleet]

change the default coller in natsumi-configs.css

[oblique girder]

ows i see. thanks :D

[dusky portal]

arch

with hyprland

[visual pond]

does it work better with nvdia gpus

[dusky portal]

IDK I have a crappy laptop with iGPU

[tribal turret]

heard hyprland has a lot of nvidia driver issues

[visual pond]

still has issues
linux is not for nvdia folks then

[tribal turret]

i had the same driver issues 3 weeks ago lol when i tried intalling hyprland

whole ui was glitched, had to wipe my drive off

[slim prism]

Only cuz of wayland

Hyprland is Wayland only

Nvidia has issues with Wayland

[jaunty sundial]

i had no issues if you just follow their fixes from the website

but it also heavily depends on the gpu you have and the drivers they are on

i'm lucky enough to have a 40 series and drivers that are extremely up to date

but anything below a 20 series seems to have those issues, including some of the 20 series

[exotic agate]

,remind

[fickle sierra]

hi how do i get mines to look like that ? mines looks like this dark.

[tender umbra]

hey @hidden kernel how do i get the mac type close bar

i even did a fresh profile so it looks like its not on my side

do i hvae to add anything?

[visual pond]

what nvidia gpu r u using?

[jaunty sundial]

4060 ti

[hidden kernel]

https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/releases/tag/v3.0.2.420

new update

[rocky arrow]

bottom text what does this mean?

[fickle forge]

the font changed in the new update

[sharp pumice]

hmmmm

[vestal falcon]

APRIL FOOLS lmao

[tender umbra]

yo bro how dy get the mac icons

[vestal falcon]

i'm on a mac lmao

[tender umbra]

OH FUCK

ICIC

@hidden kernel for the next update you should add somehthing like https://zen-browser.app/mods/6cd4bca9-f17d-4461-b554-844d69a4887c/

[hidden kernel]

why add when theres already a mod

[tender umbra]

its not compatible

dosent work

i have it enabled

[tender umbra]

nvm

i figured it out

[sage abyss]

Wait I thought he was gonna stop updating the mod

[covert quarry]

Is there a changelog?

[fickle forge]

i hate the mac buttons. You have play aim game with them lol. windows is just flick the mouse and close

[tender umbra]

Honestly if the windows close menu didn't look so pixelated and out of place I would love them

[hidden kernel]

"fine, i'll fix it myself"

fullscreen ux improvement for mac users

[final sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-myself-iwilldoitmyself-gif-5018673

[dusky portal]

i've seen people run 4090 with hyprland

[mystic marsh]

But he (Thanos) couldn't do it at the end.

[tribal turret]

idk, i myself had driver issues with hyprland

[final sleet]

he did. but the avengers just un-did it

[final sleet]

he did it 14 million times

the avengers did it once, and that happened to be the one we saw

[mystic marsh]

Right, I am talking about the main timeline.

In the alternate possibilities/realities, Thanos won.

[final sleet]

in the main timeline aswell, thanos won...... for 5 years

[mystic marsh]

Right, but my text specified that in the end he lost as well!
Like bro, someone as powerful as Dr. Doom (a literal God) is going to be defeated; bringing Thanos in such conversation is meaningless these days.

[hidden kernel]

wtf happened here

[mystic marsh]

Debate based on MCU.

[hidden kernel]

this is a natsumi browser thread

[mystic marsh]

Oh right, I apologize for off-topic discussions here on my behalf. I'll move it to #general from immediate effect.

[vestal falcon]

@hidden kernel did natsumi 3.0.3 break url popup transparency?

[hidden kernel]

no

[hidden kernel]

optimized natsumi...

[vestal falcon]

@hidden kernel will that come in the next update? looks really cool! reminds me of the TUI looking textfox for firefox haha

[torpid lily]

@hidden kernel Where is the code that makes the urlbar have text aligned?, it looks like this

[balmy sparrow]

inconsistent design after latest zen update

no need, solved haha

wow thank you for fixing the glitch!

[hidden kernel]

all it took was an update lol

[balmy sparrow]

yea 🫠

[hidden kernel]

hm

[mystic marsh]

I hate how almost all Linux distros comes like this by default with windows having rounded corners on top and sharp edges on bottom!

No uniformity in UI just drives me crazy idk why! 😭

[tribal turret]

exactly

different types of design language in whole ui looks weird af
but thankfully linux has a lot of rices to fix it

[mystic marsh]

@hidden kernel Your blades looks so 🔥 with SuperPins mod!
Also wanted to ask that given one can add some functionality to browser using JS, will you be trying to experiment that with Natsumi theme in future?

[grizzled cape]

dayum

[deft plinth]

Bruh how did you get the tab folder group

[mystic marsh]

https://github.com/TFFC-Anoms12/Advanced-Tab-Groups

[hidden kernel]

gamemode off

gamemode on

forgot to mention the last number is the gpu usage

lemme keep optimizing this

[deft plinth]

Thnks

[sharp pumice]

is gamemode off = all animations are enabled

[hidden kernel]

yea but this is the gpu usage w/o animations active

[sharp pumice]

oh damn

[mystic marsh]

@hidden kernel Hey, can you tell what might be reason behind this? Happens out of nowhere and after 10-20 clicks, works as expected.

[hidden kernel]

thats not natsumi's fault so idk

[mystic marsh]

oh, alright let's contact pinned extension dev 😦 🫡

[frail phoenix]

can i have the script to the tab folders?

[shy fern]

Natsumi doesnt have tab folders

[mystic marsh]

How to make PDF controls similar to workspace theme color (my workspace theme color is similar to FindBar bg) @hidden kernel

[hidden kernel]

change it in natsumi-config.css

[hidden kernel]

if i lock this thread again

im not archiving natsumi

so dont worry

[tall ore]

Why is Natsumi getting lock?

[hidden kernel]

its not

but a just in case

[rocky arrow]

@hidden kernel can you tell width of mac os finder bar top one in px

like i am adjusting somthing can you measure somehow and tell ?

[hidden kernel]

oh that

one sec

i only have the non notch one because i use m1 air

[hidden kernel]

25px

or 24

[rocky arrow]

oo tysm

this is without notch right?

[hidden kernel]

ye

[rocky arrow]

can you tell dock height too?pls

[hidden kernel]

thats adjustable

no fixed height

[rocky arrow]

what u keep at

[hidden kernel]

idk

just wing it ig

[rocky arrow]

whatever urs is just measure because i am sure i will not be able to decide on my own

i am almost done just few tweaks left

@hidden kernel you getting the height i am waiting

[hidden kernel]

bro im on my phone

[rocky arrow]

oo np then

finally done

[hidden kernel]

woah

[rocky arrow]

i think i should keep manager at left instead of right

[final sleet]

you can use cmd+h to hide the app. with stage manager, you cant use more than one app at a time

and if you have many apps open at once only like 3 will be visible in stage manager

[dapper lava]

Jesus christ , that looks so good

Istg ... Just amazing

No words

[final sleet]

wait how did you get the arc archive button

[rocky arrow]

? this is windows bro

[rocky arrow]

yep i can get upto 6 due to size adjustments of floating window by decreasing their size

[tribal turret]

how is ur pc even able to handle this shit

looks so heavy to run lmao

[tribal turret]

i mean gpu wise but damn

[rocky arrow]

at first i also thought this would be heavy but they designed it this way so that it can be runned on top of windows it is really optimized well for it. 1000x better than rainmeter

[rocky arrow]

@hidden kernel can pls tell height of scaling icon

[hidden kernel]

idk i dont use that

[mystic marsh]

If you could tell which config to edit here, I would be better as I can't figure it on my own!

[final sleet]

this is a lie, and you can not convince me otherwise

[rocky arrow]

[final sleet]

change the underlined hex code to whatever color you want

[mystic marsh]

Ik that.

But I want it to be similar to my workspace theme color @final sleet

[rocky arrow]

what more of proof u want

[mystic marsh]

Microsoft wants to know you location.

[final sleet]

im sure there is a color picker app on your laptop, so use that the get the hexcode 🤷‍♂️

[tribal turret]

wild, just install macos sequia for free

[final sleet]

or it will give the rgb value.

then you can go to adobe color wheel website and get the hex value from there

[mystic marsh]

I've different workspace theme color on each workspace. How is your solution supposed to help!

[final sleet]

not this?

[mystic marsh]

Yes, well I've checked that option below.

Use workspace colors as primary color

[final sleet]

you are on your own my friend

[void acorn]

bro why didnt u buy a mac lmao ur mac looks even more authentic than mine

[tribal turret]

mr foot could u help me test a macos command

[void acorn]

ye what?

[tribal turret]

dms

[distant oriole]

How did u do it??

[rocky arrow]

my bad i forgor this natsumi thread lets take this conversation to #zeneral

[covert quarry]

You can by dragging one stage on your current one

[open pulsar]

Where do I find the option to change the green in the picture in picture mode to my secondary colour?

[hidden kernel]

you need to edit the css

though i could make it a config in natsumi-config.css

[tribal turret]

a config for that would be nice tho

i just made em white

[open pulsar]

Do you know where in the CSS? I tried to look in the natsumi-pip.css for the line that makes it green, but I couldn't find it. Also, a config option for that would be great.

[supple latch]

how do i get this book mark in the img ？my curret bookbark is like this
i I have installed this theme (natsumi, natsumi-page) and most of the styles work.

[hidden kernel]

enable natsumi.sidebar.ff-sidebar-blur and natsumi.sidebar.ff-sidebar-float

then enable either natsumi.sidebar.ff-sidebar-glass, natsumi.sidebar.ff-sidebar-haze or natsumi.sidebar.ff-sidebar-mistcrylic

depending on which material looks best for you

the one in the screenshot uses mistcrylic

while i personally use haze

[supple latch]

thank you，but how to change sidebar to left ？

[potent jasper]

Is there a exe download

swear there was one before

[shy fern]

For Natsumi? I dont think theres ever been one

[potent jasper]

oh

because i cant get it to work for some reason

i did everything though

[hidden kernel]

natsumi has no exe

[potent jasper]

ok

[low prairie]

Its just a bunch of CSS files vro

[potent jasper]

yeah got it to work dw

[dense yoke]

I can't scroll and resize with it

[undone idol]

with the new support for 0 content separation I get a bar of content at the bottom for some reason

[hidden kernel]

im gonna be working on natsumi less from now on

mainly due to the silkthemes project

[covert quarry]

Silkthemes project? Kezako?

[mystic marsh]

It's a substitute to Zen Rice.
https://github.com/Silkbrush

[topaz steppe]

How i can install this? and how this works?

[mystic marsh]

It's in development rn.

[topaz steppe]

Oh, i can't use it now?

[mystic marsh]

When you'll be able to use, you'll see proper set of instructions to how to do so just like how it is in Natsumi.

[topaz steppe]

OKAY!

[supple latch]

how to change tag groups ui ?

[shy fern]

Natsumi doesnt change tab groups in any way, youd have to use different CSS on top of Natsumi to do it (and hope theres no conflicts)

That being said, tab groups are also experimental and the maintainer recommends you do not use them right now. They'll be official in like two weeks, and once they are Itll very likely break anything you do with them now (tabs will probably be lost, etc.)

If you want to use them anyway, try this
https://github.com/Anoms12/Advanced-Tab-Groups

[distant oriole]

I don't think so

Tried on new profile and it worked fibe

Without advanced tab groups

[shy fern]

itll work, but they were askingt o change the ui

[mystic marsh]

Hey @hidden kernel, small request. Can you add bg to inactive tab with SuperPins? It's okay if not possible.

[hidden kernel]

no

[hidden kernel]

improved this a lil

[rocky arrow]

tommorow exam bud

btw i didnt liked cross and tick mark icon on dots

[hidden kernel]

ik im studying for it

[hidden kernel]

still gonna keep it prob

question now is

blade or no blade

[rocky arrow]

how blade looks

[hidden kernel]

tabs

[rocky arrow]

reduce borders radius in setting one and add blade

blade is opitional like

[hidden kernel]

lemme cook for now

also ima reduce the width of the comically large sidebar

[tribal turret]

dont u have exams?

also i guess blade could look nice on settings tab

[hidden kernel]

yeah im studying for it

[rocky arrow]

exam of what?

[hidden kernel]

ib finals

[rocky arrow]

no i mean what suject is tommorows exam

[hidden kernel]

physics

[rocky arrow]

full syllabus?

[hidden kernel]

ye

[hidden kernel]

wip

[rocky arrow]

tommorow exam will do real work

[hidden kernel]

im studying too lmao

[hidden kernel]

just gonna put this here since i made it before studying

[vestal falcon]

yessir that looks fire

ty so much for your work @hidden kernel ! you must be hella busy

[hidden kernel]

yes and i am suffering

but good news is

tmr and the day after and 40% of my stress is gone

[vestal falcon]

ayyy lets go

good luck on your exams bro!

[covert quarry]

Good luck mister green, you'll get it for sure! 🫶

[hidden kernel]

for those asking

yes natsumi is somewhat broken for 1.12

yes a fix is on the way but itll be delayed cuz laptop broken

[hidden kernel]

you know what

fuck it

i extracted the files from my macbook

3.1.0 is out https://github.com/greeeen-dev/natsumi-browser/releases/tag/v3.1.0

say hi to gamemode

and a much better transparency effect for you kde better blur users

[topaz steppe]

What the point for making this update? I can't use it if I'm v1.12b

[hidden kernel]

you can?

its meant to work on 1.12b

[topaz steppe]

Oh, sorry I think I didn't understand what did you say in GitHub

[hidden kernel]

also for kde users:

if you have background blur enabled for your DE (for kde plasma, you might wanna use kde better blur), you can enable zen.widget.linux.transparency

zen uses a completely transparent background, but natsumi adds a semi-transparent white/black color to improve contrast

[upper owl]

what is natsumi game mode?

i dont see a difference

[hidden kernel]

gpu usage optimizer

[upper owl]

ahh ok so kinda worth for laptops on battery?

[hidden kernel]

prob

[upper owl]

will test it out ty

[hidden kernel]

i use it when im gaming on my browser

[upper owl]

where do i see the gx color?

[hidden kernel]

enable the config

[upper owl]

i did. but everything looks normal.
my normal color is the zen pink. maybe its the same 😂

[hidden kernel]

maybe lmao

[idle onyx]

hey, just wondering if this is intentional or i've cocked something up somewhere. but the pdf reader controls are like a different colour to the zen theme as a whole.

https://nointe.rest/images/files/Mk6XrG.png screenshot here if it embeds.

cheers :)

[hidden kernel]

edit them in config

[idle onyx]

yeah literally just thought to take a look LOL

thanks for the quick reply mate

[mystic marsh]

@hidden kernel Is this a bug? (Glitching because a lot of bg tasks running)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/l1lpuk7r5g82iiz3x3czs/explorer_7m7slg6tDR.mp4?rlkey=860n9g3tn19kpb75ak6b9oh3z&dl=0

[hidden kernel]

not on my end

[mystic marsh]

Oh, alright. I hate it when OS specific issue takes place. 😦

[topaz steppe]

@hidden kernel Why i can't see browser toolbox with your natsumi theme?

[hidden kernel]

oh great

so its not just nebula

[tribal turret]

wuttt

happened to nebula

[topaz steppe]

Idk

Wdym?

[tribal turret]

which toolbox we talkin abt

[topaz steppe]

Browser toolbox option.

[hidden kernel]

@topaz steppe

[tribal turret]

yes

exactly

[topaz steppe]

Oh

[topaz steppe]

What's that?

A thing in about:config?

Or what?

[hidden kernel]

ye

[tribal turret]

Told ya it was very annoying and confusing

So many people were confused due to this lmao

[topaz steppe]

@hidden kernel Can you make css for something like that css?

Make the unloaded tabs with animated Zzzzzz indicator or something like that.

[hidden kernel]

just use the zen mod for it

[topaz steppe]

What's it?

I know there's one that makes the tab like gray right?

[final sleet]

what does game mode do

and how do i use it

[vestal falcon]

read the release notes my guy

[topaz steppe]

Does latest natsumi work in zen twilight?

[mystic marsh]

It's time-consuming to setup Natsumi and check if each and every feature is working or not. 😄
But Nebula is working as of now.

[topaz steppe]

For zen twilight?

[mystic marsh]

yes

[hidden kernel]

update

laptop fixed

yippee

[hidden kernel]

planning a complete rewrite of both urlbar and findbar, they look quite ugly compared to the rest of natsumi that use better materials like haze

and mistcrylic didnt go so well

[low prairie]

Just vibecode it

[hidden kernel]

no.

[vestal falcon]

@hidden kernel could you share which part of the gamemode code makes the tabs and essentials square? (and could this be applied to the url bar in single toolbar mode?) sorry for the question, i am not very familiar with the css. thanks!

[hidden kernel]

probably

i mean its just a matter of changing the border radius for #urlbar or smth

you can just look for anything that has "essentials"

[vestal falcon]

thanks!

so border-radius makes the edges square?

[hidden kernel]

no, it makes them rounded

higher border-radius = more rounded

lower border-radius = more "sharp"

border-radius: 0 = squared

[vestal falcon]

ohhhh i see

thank you!

[hidden kernel]

after today's happenings, natsumi will have floorp support for v4

and possibly regular firefox

[vestal falcon]

also thanks for letting us know about the security issues!

[hidden kernel]

natsumi development will take a break while i take my time to calm down, the reason for this being a recent serious incident between me and some members of the zen community.

will post more details sometime soon, but for the time i ask to be left alone

wait i forgot im resigning from mod so i cant unlock

ill leave it unlocked but pls dont send stuff

[hidden kernel]

please dont send stuff here

[ripe rune]

what the hell?

what happened?

[random slate]

You might know better

[crystal grail]

rip natsumi

who will take on the legacy?

find out next time on the next episode of dragon ball z

[mystic marsh]

Natsumi isn't dead. And Green hasn't explicitly stated for removing Natsumi support for Zen (or that's what I hope given he just said Natsumi will have Floorp support for v4).

[crystal grail]

i mean he left the server though

i guess you can check the github and see if he still updates it

unlikely though

[mystic marsh]

Oh didn't see that. Still hoping for Zen support continuation.

[final sleet]

wtf

[oblique girder]

nah, green just taking a break

[drifting zephyr]

Hi! Can anyone tell me how I can remove this bottom separator please?

It only shows when I use Enable compact mode with Hide both. Btw, using Natsumi skin.

Disabled all mods, cleared all chrome folder contents and did a fresh install...

[drifting zephyr]

Nevermind. I ended up creating a new profile and it's fixed now.

[autumn minnow]

[drifting zephyr]

With the latest build (1.12.4b), setting "natsumi.sidebar.tabs-glass-effect" to true makes the sidebar square and not using the glass effect.

[whole mauve]

can i please have help to reinstall the natsumi download?

I tried updating it but now it has gone away

not sure maybe something is wrong here

still dosent work

[mystic marsh]

Please share the image of entire File Explorer.

[whole mauve]

this good

[mystic marsh]

Make it similar to this. 🙂

As the way you've done is quite wrong.

[whole mauve]

what do i need to change specifically, also some of the files you have i cant find

[mystic marsh]

Wait, lemme send a screen recording.

[mystic marsh]

@whole mauve Here that's how you've to do it.

[whole mauve]

thanks, ill try that. what is zen twilight btw?

[mystic marsh]

It's a canary version of Zen.

@whole mauve Changes inttoduced for Zen Beta in new update are first tested in Twilight to check for compatibility and performance issues.

[whole mauve]

right, is there anything particulary new?, also is that for the password which seems useful?

[mystic marsh]

For Twilight, right now there's nothing new, but changes are introduced about 1-3 time every week.
To be able to access sensitive stuff like save credentials, one needs to enter password if it's enabled in Settings. If you don't enter password, access to those stuffs will be disabled.

[whole mauve]

still not working 😦

[mystic marsh]

Open about:profiles in Zen and show a ss of it.

[mystic marsh]

I knew this would be the reason. The files and folder you added are in chrome folder of Home profile, that's why it's only supposed to effect your Home profile and not the School profile you've set as default and opened rn.

[whole mauve]

yep i just opened it and its natsumi 😭

[whole mauve]

shot bro i added it to my school one and now its good👍

also, how do u get transparent file explorer?

[mystic marsh]

https://github.com/Maplespe/ExplorerBlurMica

[covert quarry]

I feel lonely without mr.Green 🥲
I hope he's alright

[mystic marsh]

He is alright. Just has 0 motivation to continue on Natsumi...

[covert quarry]

ok, good to know, his wellness is everything I hope for him and his dear Natsumi 🙂

[tough jasper]

How do you get those colored folder things????? its so pretty i need it right tf now

Also is there a way to change the colors of the tabs from black and or add a colored outline?

[mystic marsh]

This CSS theme is outdated. Try Nebula to get in built colored folders.

[tough jasper]

oh

ffs lmfao

i just spent 30 min tryna get this to work😭

[mystic marsh]

It was def the best theme of all, but the dev kind of lost motivation to continue on it due to conflict of interests and abandoned it.

[tough jasper]

damn that sucks

[tender umbra]

how to get file explorer like that

[mystic marsh]

Search and install ExplorerBlurMica and DWMGlassBlur.

[tender umbra]

yooo send help new update broke "minimal exit menu"

the extensuiojn

[mystic marsh]

You mean mod?

[tender umbra]

yeah

[mystic marsh]

Currently not at home. Will send it few hours later.

Fs

[tender umbra]

ty lasrt thing

ddo i use both explorer mica and dwwm glass or can i only use dwm

[mystic marsh]

Both

The first one only works for file explorer

[tender umbra]

❤️

slide the config ong

[mystic marsh]

Slide what config?

[tender umbra]

config.ini

[mystic marsh]

Wait sending

@tender umbra #zeneral message

[mighty topaz]

anyone have tab group css to make them look like folders?

[random slate]

Do you have Sine installed?

[mighty topaz]

i have no clue what that is, so most likely not

[random slate]

https://github.com/CosmoCreeper/Sine

Install this first

[final sleet]

does anyone know if mr.green will ever be back

[mystic marsh]

Idk, maybe a few more months.

[hidden kernel]

This change will probably be very controversial, but I've decided that Natsumi v4 will not support Zen, but instead support Firefox and other forks such as Floorp.

To each their own, but Mauro's recent behavior were, frankly, just appalling. From removing the floating colors option to blaming people for "not having taste in design" after receiving criticism, I have lost all faith in Zen Browser and I will not be working on custom skins for this browser anymore.

I apologize for letting you all down, but Zen does not align with what I want from a browser anymore. Since personalizing Zen will probably become even harder in the near future, it's time for me to move on. If you're staying on Zen, you can use Natsumi despite it being broken on 1.14b, or you can switch to other themes like Nebula.

that is all, i'm leaving again

bye

[covert quarry]

Thanks for all your work here.
I hope no one hurt you/r feelings.
You did an awesome job. thxthxthx
And have a peaceful life with your gf 💜

[final sleet]

thanks for sharing your incredible work with us. it was great while it lasted.

we will miss you